I just installed official Touchwiz Lollipop from Samsung on my Galaxy S5 and i just wanted to ask you guys...
I think kitkat have a definitely better battery life and a much more beautiful lock screen... but Lollipop comes with ART and great design improvments on system apps.
Which one do you think it's better? Kitkat or Lollipop and why
KitKat is better (for now).
Better battery life, no proximity sensor issues, no wifi issues, no light sensor issues , TW works smoother, overal experience is better even with no ART. Benchmark scores is not everything.
I got Lollipop 3 times and every time I downgraded to KitKat stock rom with root.
No exposed framework on LP (yet).
Maybe in couple of months when LP will be more mature project I will update.
Android One is going to have Android 5.1 soon. For now they sticked with 4.4.4.
I think that Samsung was to hurry with 5.0. They should update to 4.4.4 (especialy they had 4.4.4 done for G901).
I beg to differ with qubbus, I think LP is a much better experience than KK.
- Much more refined and better looking UI;
- I've had none of the issues stated in his post. Battery is the same for me, no issues with the sensors.
- I indeed miss Xposed but for now I rather have the small tweaks of Lollipop.
All in all, the choice is yours.
rinxas said:
I beg to differ with qubbus, I think LP is a much better experience than KK.
- Much more refined and better looking UI;
- I've had none of the issues stated in his post. Battery is the same for me, no issues with the sensors.
- I indeed miss Xposed but for now I rather have the small tweaks of Lollipop.
All in all, the choice is yours.
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Battery was the main reason i choosed to downgrade.. I couldn't get even through 1 day !
The rest was fine for me. ( Even if i didn't liked that new lockscreen too much )
i got my s5 on kitkat and coming from a nexus4 I was quite unsatisfied with the smoothness. but some dev's at the N4 community are really far at solving bugs and memory leaks so lollipop is running quite perfect on the N4. anyway, after I flashed lollipop on my S5 for the first time I was quite happy with the smoothness. much better then KitKat! yesterday I downgraded to KitKat because I wanted to try wanam xposed. but I almost instantly returned to lollipop.. much, much better! it looks better (too bad it's still a long way from stock android), it's much smoother and for me; battery life isn't much different. I didn't encounter any bugs, for me lollipop is running bug less but I have to say I don't use any of Samsung's extra features..
l3o4nn said:
Battery was the main reason i choosed to downgrade.. I couldn't get even through 1 day !
The rest was fine for me. ( Even if i didn't liked that new lockscreen too much )
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how many hours?
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how many hours?
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8-9-10 hours on Lollipop pretty much used
With kitkat i can make it pretty easy through 1 day...and i use my phone like..alot !
l3o4nn said:
8-9-10 hours on Lollipop pretty much used
With kitkat i can make it pretty easy through 1 day...and i use my phone like..alot !
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well its a small computer with a cpu on par with certain laptops, its got the same resolution as a hi def tv, its constantly connected to the internet. i think wanting any more than 12 hours is ludicris and misguided.
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well its a small computer with a cpu on par with certain laptops, its got the same resolution as a hi def tv, its constantly connected to the internet. i think wanting any more than 12 hours is ludicris and misguided.
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Haha. i got your point. But my point was that with Lollipop i couldn t make even 12 hours.
funny how people have different problems with the same OS
I wonder if there like me who have problems in the game of Modern Combat 5? It fails at startup after lollipop update.
Pollie81 said:
i got my s5 on kitkat and coming from a nexus4 I was quite unsatisfied with the smoothness. but some dev's at the N4 community are really far at solving bugs and memory leaks so lollipop is running quite perfect on the N4. anyway, after I flashed lollipop on my S5 for the first time I was quite happy with the smoothness. much better then KitKat! yesterday I downgraded to KitKat because I wanted to try wanam xposed. but I almost instantly returned to lollipop.. much, much better! it looks better (too bad it's still a long way from stock android), it's much smoother and for me; battery life isn't much different. I didn't encounter any bugs, for me lollipop is running bug less but I have to say I don't use any of Samsung's extra features..
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What do you guys mean when you say "downgrade?" Am I missing something or been out of the game too long? I thought flashing a lower bootloader would result inn a brick? Enlighten me please
jdsingle76 said:
What do you guys mean when you say "downgrade?" Am I missing something or been out of the game too long? I thought flashing a lower bootloader would result inn a brick? Enlighten me please
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downgrade means going back too KitKat from lollipop.
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downgrade means going back too KitKat from lollipop.
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Lol, thanks. Yes, I understand what it means, my apologies for not elaborating. Are you saying that you're flashing the LP tar through Odin, then "downgrading" to KK by flashing the KK tar through Odin, or just flashing down up and down with zips through custom recovery?
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Lol, thanks. Yes, I understand what it means, my apologies for not elaborating. Are you saying that you're flashing the LP tar through Odin, then "downgrading" to KK by flashing the KK tar through Odin, or just flashing down up and down with zips through custom recovery?
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thru Odin because I want to keep my Knox untriggered..
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thru Odin because I want to keep my Knox untriggered..
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So you have successfully flashed a 4.4.2 or 4.4.4 KK tar using Odin AFTER flashing LP 5.0 through Odin or downloading it OTA?
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So you have successfully flashed a 4.4.2 or 4.4.4 KK tar using Odin AFTER flashing LP 5.0 through Odin or downloading it OTA?
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Yup, that's what a lot of people are doing after updating via KIES or OTA to Lollipop and finding it worse than KK
Im considering it myself, although don't seem to be having as many issues as others are posting since factory resetting and freezing a few bloatware apps
For me KK is better than Lollipop.
1. Most mods here don't work on Lollipop, yet
2. Xposed isn't supported on Lollipop (BIG ISSUE FOR ME)
3. Notification dropdown background is transparent. I know I can change it if I flash AllianceRom 6.0, but the above 2 points still stand
Gonna wait until Rovo fixes Xposed (hopefully) and for most mods on XDA to recieve a Lollipop version as well (some have it now, but not even close to all of them)
Soo.yeah...Lollipop is smoother and better looking, which means absolutely nothing if you can't mod it the way you want to!
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If I wanna try Lollipop, can I restore my 4.4.2 nandroid backup over my 5.0 firmware just like I would normally if I'm on KK?
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Yup, that's what a lot of people are doing after updating via KIES or OTA to Lollipop and finding it worse than KK
Im considering it myself, although don't seem to be having as many issues as others are posting since factory resetting and freezing a few bloatware apps
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Wow, that's better than it used to be when KK first came out for the S3. If you flashed a lower boot loader, you bricked!
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Wow, that's better than it used to be when KK first came out for the S3. If you flashed a lower boot loader, you bricked!
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There seems to be a lot of conflicting info about it, but Ive read a good few people saying they have managed it fine with no problems after flashing back to KK - not done it myself yet though
But yea, a lot of places are saying if you flash from a KNOX enabled firmware back to a firmware without KNOX, it won't work due to the bootloader, but members here and droid central forums report it working 100% fine
Was there ever a build of KK that had KNOX ?
If yes, then that's likely the build people are flashing back to, if not, then I have no idea
Im still on the fence about flashing back, or just forgetting the warranty and rooting this thing on lollipop as it is
I suppose even if it bricked, you'd be able to recover with ODIN
I'm coming back to KitKat. I didn't like android lollipop. Some of the aplications are not supported and battery life is terrible
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I have read all KitKat topics till now. It looks nice, but still i'm not convinced to update to 4.4.2. My Note 3 at this moment : 4.3 MK2 UK rooted with Knox 0x0. (csc: Vodaphone UK)
I read posts about success, and also read posts about failure. For example :
- cannot write to SD card (or partial)
- bootlooping
- rooting failures
- soft bricking
I am curious how you think about this.
Pierre118 said:
I have read all KitKat topics till now. It looks nice, but still i'm not convinced to update to 4.4.2. My Note 3 at this moment : 4.3 MI7 rooted with Knox 0x0. (csc: Vodaphone UK)
I read posts about success, and also read posts about failure. For example :
- cannot write to SD card (or partial)
- bootlooping
- rooting failures
- soft bricking
I am curious how you think about this.
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My honest opinion, stay on 4.3. There are a lot of bugs on 4.4.2 - at least with 4.3 you have options with ROMS etc
Some issues I have had
SD cannot write/delete
Rotation issues
STUPID battery drainage
Pain in my A$$
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My honest opinion, stay on 4.3. There are a lot of bugs on 4.4.2 - at least with 4.3 you have options with ROMS etc
Some issues I have had
SD cannot write/delete
Rotation issues
STUPID battery drainage
Pain in my A$$
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It looks like this a 'leaked' firmware, so many major bugs. But I also read success, how can that be so different?
I'm having a number of problems with 4.4.2, but they're nothing I can't work around with some tinkering. If you can't handle bugs on your phone, stay with 4.3.
If you're looking for big differences you won't find it visually. Most differences are "under the hood".
Haven't had any of the problems spoken about -
SD cannot write/delete
Rotation issues
STUPID battery drainage
But then again I might just be lucky....
If you're happy with 4.3 then est to stay as you are. You will loose root though you can get it again easily enough now Chainfire has released his cf-autoroot for Kitkat (you will trip Knox however).
A lot of cosmetic mods don't work and a fair few xposed mods work partially or not at all.
framework seems to be altered so themes don't work and until these are fixed you are "srtuck" with stock android look. There are some things you can do but not the range of stuff I did in 4.3.
All up its a mixed bag... Just needs time to be cracked and hacked and all will be well again...
Hi,
I just updated my note 3 to 4.4 and it's true that there's nothing extravagantly new on the update.
But, I did notice that my device is no longer rooted. I tried rooting my note 3 via ODIN but there's a problem (bootlooping)...
What can I do about this? I want to root my device but I can't because of the 4.4 update. Is there any methods or available download that I need to do so that I can root my device? And is it possible if I can switch back to 4.3 since 4.4 I flashed was the leaked version?
Looking forward to helping me out with my problem. More power!
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ultramag69 said:
If you're looking for big differences you won't find it visually. Most differences are "under the hood".
Haven't had any of the problems spoken about -
SD cannot write/delete
Rotation issues
STUPID battery drainage
But then again I might just be lucky....
If you're happy with 4.3 then est to stay as you are. You will loose root though you can get it again easily enough now Chainfire has released his cf-autoroot for Kitkat (you will trip Knox however).
A lot of cosmetic mods don't work and a fair few xposed mods work partially or not at all.
framework seems to be altered so themes don't work and until these are fixed you are "srtuck" with stock android look. There are some things you can do but not the range of stuff I did in 4.3.
All up its a mixed bag... Just needs time to be cracked and hacked and all will be well again...
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Sir,
I noticed you mentioned about that Chainfire released a cf-autoroot for Kitkat. Where can I find this? Have you updated yours to 4.4 and is still rooted? Can you help me out? I appreciate it much. Thanks.
Here is the file you need to root 4.4.2
I think after upgrading to 4.42 you can't go back, can't root without tripping Knox, SD is limited, I think you can't use Appop to set program permissions (not sure if there is any replacement), ART is disabled and some other minor bugs and issues.
Come again with benefits please.
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I think after upgrading to 4.42 you can't go back, can't root without tripping Knox, SD is limited, I think you can't use Appop to set program permissions (not sure if there is any replacement), ART is disabled and some other minor bugs and issues.
Come again with benefits please.
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Correct to KNOX and downgrading. Appops does work. But not natively supported. ART isn't implemented.
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radicalisto said:
My honest opinion, stay on 4.3. There are a lot of bugs on 4.4.2 - at least with 4.3 you have options with ROMS etc
Some issues I have had
SD cannot write/delete
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But that's not a bug. It's a kitkat feature, apps need to be updated to work with the new permissions for sd-card access.
Can I use this method (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49047469&postcount=1127) to upgrade to Kitkat? So I'll have root but not the new knox bootloader.
If you don't play CM/AOKP/AOSP ROM and never intend to downgrade, your device is not Hong Kong Variant. Just go ahead update to 4.4.2 KitKat.
The most smooth experience I ever get in stock ROM.
No more delay when click the pull down menu for contact search at Phone Keypad. 1st open is slow but after that it is instantly open. This really important to me as I use it often, really appreciate Samsung finally fixed it.
I don't have rotation issue as small portion user report.
Solid stable.
Those facing bootloop is because either
User never tick Phone Bootloader Update.
Using not compatible custom recovery.
Accidentally flash the ROM at Hong Kong Variant Note 3.
Things to aware on KitKat.
Samsung do S View chip detection, now only Genuine Samsung S View Flip cover is working, all counterfeit and 3rd party include Spigen will stop functioning.
Due to new implementation of KitKat, need new permission for writing data to external SD card, thus making certain apps no longer able to write to SD Card. Currently they is a fixed for root user, or just wait the apps developer updates it.
No way to downgrade to any 4.3 ROM due to new bootloader, also means cannot install any CM/AOKP/AOSP until those developer updates them to new bootloader.
stay with 4.3, update you will regret it.
-Generic S-View case won't work ( just like Iphone ios 7 detect none genuine hardware= rip off)
-Call recording feature is NOT implement with Samsung KK (shame on Samsung), therefore call record WILL NOT work.
-New bootloader (No way to revert back older Bootloader) = IOS can not re-install older version.
-Samsung firmware is now just like f**k IOS.
-This will be my last Samsung Handset.
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fterh said:
Can I use this method (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49047469&postcount=1127) to upgrade to Kitkat? So I'll have root but not the new knox bootloader.
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No. You need the new bootloader to have 4.4.2 work
This sucks, android was meant to be the more open source friendly software!! It's basically becoming iOS with all the locks and restrictions it's placing everywhere, I think after this note I'm jumping ship to.. Well god knows what! It seems soon everything will be "your device will be this and you can't change that"
Let the consumer buy the product, then f*** them over time.... Thanks Samsung. Glad my new TV was an LG.
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Stay on 4.3
Pierre118 said:
I have read all KitKat topics till now. It looks nice, but still i'm not convinced to update to 4.4.2. My Note 3 at this moment : 4.3 MI7 rooted with Knox 0x0. (csc: Vodaphone UK)
I read posts about success, and also read posts about failure. For example :
- cannot write to SD card (or partial)
- bootlooping
- rooting failures
- soft bricking
I am curious how you think about this.
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There are no two answers to this! Stay on 4.3
4.4.2 is garbage, believe me! I have tried it and am regretting it! It is slow, buggy and worse of all can crash at any time! So till Google don't release an update, don't even think about upgrading!
From a victim of 4.4.2
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This sucks, android was meant to be the more open source friendly software!! It's basically becoming iOS with all the locks and restrictions it's placing everywhere, I think after this note I'm jumping ship to.. Well god knows what! It seems soon everything will be "your device will be this and you can't change that"
Let the consumer buy the product, then f*** them over time.... Thanks Samsung. Glad my new TV was an LG.
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Hehehe, well all the manufacturers are trying to lock down their devices now, LG will be next with their KNOX version, and already Sony are a ***** to play around with I hear... that leaves HTC? - even then, your warranty is void when you unlock your bootloader.... However, they at least offer you the chance to choose an unlocked safe method via themselves..
I'm not defending the corporate garbage, however, you gotta remember it's business to them.. a few modders over millions of normal sales means nothing to them in the long run -- PS My tv is Samsung haha --
iqsoft said:
There are no two answers to this! Stay on 4.3
4.4.2 is garbage, believe me! I have tried it and am regretting it! It is slow, buggy and worse of all can crash at any time! So till Google don't release an update, don't even think about upgrading!
From a victim of 4.4.2
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I replied to your help thread, we'll get you sorted don't worry :good:
for me (sm-n900)
4.4.2
is the real meaning of stability and smoothnes and battery
its really the best choise
i like it
and i think its deffrient from each device
just go ahead and try it
if u have any issues
it will be fixed in the next official updates from Sam
dont worry
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dr. Ketan just released v2 of his 4.4.2 rom. I hope it's stable enough to use it.
I hate bugs, even the very small ones.
I was looking at all the posts in this thread but didn't see a solid answer about the 4.4.2 advantages.
can someone tell us what is 4.4.2 better for?
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I have read all KitKat topics till now. It looks nice, but still i'm not convinced to update to 4.4.2. My Note 3 at this moment : 4.3 MI7 rooted with Knox 0x0. (csc: Vodaphone UK)
I read posts about success, and also read posts about failure. For example :
- cannot write to SD card (or partial)
- bootlooping
- rooting failures
- soft bricking
I am curious how you think about this.
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The normal thing for you would be to upgrade from MI7 to MJ7. When Vodaphone UK 4.4 will be out you should start thinking about upgrading to that.
ok, we have a nexus, so we deserve updates and we have them....that's why we bought a nexus no?....
yes....but every update is a hit for our device's performance...I thought that last one would fix performance issues, but is not .
so...I bought one of these to my gf, sure that it would work well, I owned one a year ago and it was very good! nope....is slow, lags, remembers me a 100$ cheap tablet.
I considered to downgrade....is frustrating...what version do you remember as stunning fast, like a nexus should be?
4.1? damn, is too 2012-ish....
4.2? old but at least we have tiles on notification drawer...
4.3? good, some performance goodies, hw vsync...
4.4? I thought this would be the best choice because in theory is optimised for 512mb ram devices too....but was not performing well
5.0? don't say nothing...pff
I also read about f2fs as a revolution, but is not my tablet and my gf uses it for study and I can't take it to test...
thanks for reading and answering
My 2012 Nexus 7 (wifi) I had been on Android 4.4.4 when I updated to Android 5.0 using Wugs nexus root tool kit.
It had been sluggish on Kit Kat, but got more so when I went to Lollipop, even with a full wipe.
After about a week on 5.0 I rolled back to Android 4.3, and have been happy since.
Everyone is having different experiences and mine personally is that 5.0 is running greater for me then 4.4.4. That was with a complete full wipe (including data) when I flashed the image through wugs toolkit. There were initially bouts of lag (waking up screen, lock screen, etc) but the lags pretty much gone bar a few occasions. 5.0.1 will hopefully make the system more stable and not repeat what happened with 4.4.4 because my n7 ran like a pig after that update.
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My 2012 Nexus 7 (wifi) I had been on Android 4.4.4 when I updated to Android 5.0 using Wugs nexus root tool kit.
It had been sluggish on Kit Kat, but got more so when I went to Lollipop, even with a full wipe.
After about a week on 5.0 I rolled back to Android 4.3, and have been happy since.
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And how are you with 4.3? Perfect? I'm really considerino a downgrade....
I will try forma the last time a full wipe and factory image, and then downgrade until I'm satisfied.
No words about f2fs?
I have just updated my n7 to Slim rom 5.0.1.
I have been frustrated by not being able to read a simple email using gmail application. Lags, lags, and "gmail is not responding do you want to close it"
I need to have two accounts for me and my wife, so the performance was even more slow.
Now with f2fs it is a rocket. I have installed every toolvI wanted and now also the Godfire game, and I must admit that it was a hit.
So thank you google to slow our machines to force buying the new ones, but my nexus7 from 2012 acts lighning fast now.
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I have just updated my n7 to Slim rom 5.0.1.
I have been frustrated by not being able to read a simple email using gmail application. Lags, lags, and "gmail is not responding do you want to close it"
I need to have two accounts for me and my wife, so the performance was even more slow.
Now with f2fs it is a rocket. I have installed every toolvI wanted and now also the Godfire game, and I must admit that it was a hit.
So thank you google to slow our machines to force buying the new ones, but my nexus7 from 2012 acts lighning fast now.
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ok....I have to format on f2fs....that's the only way....
than...con you tell me how to do that? and also, I want to flash stock lollipop, no custom roms...
I read some but guides were outdated...and, FYI I am very experienced on flashing, so I will not take you much time
Not sure if stock can be ran on f2fs.
I installed slim rom and itis close to aosp.
Instruction is provided in the rom thread.
I am no very experienced and I handled without problems.
remmyhi said:
Not sure if stock can be ran on f2fs.
I installed slim rom and itis close to aosp.
Instruction is provided in the rom thread.
I am no very experienced and I handled without problems.
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wait. are you running kk?
Nope. Lollipop.
Slim f2fs on lollipop?
ConstantineTheGreat said:
Slim f2fs on lollipop?
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Have you got it? I'm not sure I want to keep lp on that tablet....how is it?
Even on my m8 lp performs bad, considering that is stock and my phone was on the top of benchmarks before nex 6 and 9 came out..
throcker said:
Have you got it? I'm not sure I want to keep lp on that tablet....how is it?
Even on my m8 lp performs bad, considering that is stock and my phone was on the top of benchmarks before nex 6 and 9 came out..
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No, I don't have it. I just asked is there slim lollipop on f2fs, because I tried rastapop and SleamFreak which are on 5.0 and have f2fs support, but I had problems like rebooting, problem with installing new apps, etc.
So for now, till I get answer from user emmyhi, I back to slimkat KK which run fantastic on our Nexus 7.
SlimPop (f2fs) by Freak is great. very fast.
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SlimPop (f2fs) by Freak is great. very fast.
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Yes, I can agree with you that is really fast, but I had a problem with gapps (downloaded one's give in thread) and I couldn't install Google play store (it wasn't installed with gapps???)
I couldn't resolve my problem with that, and also, even I did clean install I haven't got screen like I first time use this rom. I haven't got possibility to chose language, and everything else. Rom just moved me to homescreen. Maybe this is not for this thread, but, I'll wait some other version of slim on 5.0.
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Yes, I can agree with you that is really fast, but I had a problem with gapps (downloaded one's give in thread) and I couldn't install Google play store (it wasn't installed with gapps???)
I couldn't resolve my problem with that, and also, even I did clean install I haven't got screen like I first time use this rom. I haven't got possibility to chose language, and everything else. Rom just moved me to homescreen. Maybe this is not for this thread, but, I'll wait some other version of slim on 5.0.
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Did you try SlimGapps Normal one from the op link. That worked fine for me. You first flash the Rom. Boot. Go to recovery again. than flash Gapps. Boot. You will get the initialisation screen.
too much beta, I can't take my gf's tablet everytime she has a problem ahahah
I will try an evening every factory image and a kk f2fs rom to see which one performs better...then I'll let you know!
I'm running stock rooted 4.4.4 kitkat on mine with Lean Kernel 4.1. No lag, no issues with apps not working like on 5.0. Good battery life ,watched over 5 hours of movies last night and still had 49% left from a full charge. Standby time is excellent, I've only lost 2% over the last 9 hours.
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Yes, I can agree with you that is really fast, but I had a problem with gapps (downloaded one's give in thread) and I couldn't install Google play store (it wasn't installed with gapps???)
I couldn't resolve my problem with that, and also, even I did clean install I haven't got screen like I first time use this rom. I haven't got possibility to chose language, and everything else. Rom just moved me to homescreen. Maybe this is not for this thread, but, I'll wait some other version of slim on 5.0.
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cosmickamal said:
Did you try SlimGapps Normal one from the op link. That worked fine for me. You first flash the Rom. Boot. Go to recovery again. than flash Gapps. Boot. You will get the initialisation screen.
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riggerman0421 said:
I'm running stock rooted 4.4.4 kitkat on mine with Lean Kernel 4.1. No lag, no issues with apps not working like on 5.0. Good battery life ,watched over 5 hours of movies last night and still had 49% left from a full charge. Standby time is excellent, I've only lost 2% over the last 9 hours.
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that stock one with f2fs?
No, not here. Pure stock, rooted 4.4.4 KitKat. Removed a few Google apps I don't use, but still ext4. Lean Kennel really make a difference.
and....after a flashing afternoon....
4.2.2 stock was damn fast....
4.3 stock was even faster and smoother than 4.2.2
4.4 was worse......got better with lean kernel, but wasn't just fast and responsive enough.
the winner is....4.3......that's what I left on my gf's tablet....
everything runs good, apps opening instantly, look much 2013 but google launcher and google keyboard help...
this is my suggestion after my tests. good luck and hope next LP ota will fix some performance issues, not only on this one but for every phone which got slower with this update
Not sure if I'm supposed to post here, never ventured from my phone's thread before. My step dad has had his S5 since maybe April 2014 and it's been a brilliant upgrade from his S3 which he hated after the 4.3 update. He's loved his S5's battery life, performance, everything, but now it's the same story as his S3, and after the 5.0 update the battery is OK he says, but its lagging and crashing. I said that I could "fix" it, and I'd do that with a custom ROM. Do you recommend a stable ROM with battery life the same or better than stock, doesn't matter if it's kitkat or lollipop, however lollipop is better, if anyone could help, I'd be extremely helpful. As far as I know, Samsung's do not have a locked bootloader, correct me if I'm wrong, thanks.
Go for a factory reset, I did that and my S5 runs so nicely on 5.0, more battery and quicker in my opinion. Definitely would try that first.
lynxblaine said:
Go for a factory reset, I did that and my S5 runs so nicely on 5.0, more battery and quicker in my opinion. Definitely would try that first.
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I'll try that, thanks
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I'll try that, thanks
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A lot of people are reporting issues with 5.0 at the moment......
Things like.....
Poor battery
Problems with wifi
Problems with s - health
Problems with NFC
I'd be tempted to downgrade back to 4.4.2 and wait a while......it's where I'm staying for a while.....at least until 5.0 is a bit more polished......
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Hey.
I just ordered my LG G2 and as I read it comes up with 4.2 in the box.
Should I update to lolipop immediately?
I've read that people were experiencing worse battery life and bugs.
Is it true?
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Hey.
I just ordered my LG G2 and as I read it comes up with 4.2 in the box.
Should I update to lolipop immediately?
I've read that people were experiencing worse battery life and bugs.
Is it true?
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For overall better and stable performance stick to Kitkat currently until Lollipop stable ROM releases. Best option would be CLOUDY G2 v2.2 with Dorminax 10.2 kernel.
You will have amazing performance,stability, G3 UI, RAW photo via Xcam or Mi2Raw, Dual window etc.. Check it out here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783192
Artasdmc said:
Hey.
I just ordered my LG G2 and as I read it comes up with 4.2 in the box.
Should I update to lolipop immediately?
I've read that people were experiencing worse battery life and bugs.
Is it true?
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I installed a 5.0.2 stock rom on my g2 and I can tell you battery life is really bad, for me anyway, im getting a maximum of 3 hours. If I were you upgrade lollypop when battery life is better hopefully 5.1. However performance is great on lollypop compared to kitkat for to me the extremely low battery life is not worth the hassle.
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For overall better and stable performance stick to Kitkat currently until Lollipop stable ROM releases. Best option would be CLOUDY G2 v2.2 with Dorminax 10.2 kernel.
You will have amazing performance,stability, G3 UI, RAW photo via Xcam or Mi2Raw, Dual window etc.. Check it out here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783192
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But if I'm not mistaken, I'll void my completely new phone's warranty?
I'm a heavy user, I'll emulate games, play very graphically intensive games and I'll just squeeze everything I can out of the phone so warranty is nice in case CPU dies out of heat after a year or something.
And if I were to flash a custom rom now, what about Cloudy 3.0? The lolipop version?
Is it working great?
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But if I'm not mistaken, I'll void my completely new phone's warranty?
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....why are you here?
You can always flash stock and unroot anyways.
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....why are you here?
You can always flash stock and unroot anyways.
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I've been a long time custom rom/kernel user on my old ZTE blade but it was a year ago after I purchased it.
Well why I'm here, it's pretty simple, XDA is biggest android community out there.
It necessarily doesn't mean it's only for Android modders, people ask all kinds of questions here.
And so did I, I asked if it's worth it to update to Lolipop rather than to stick 4.2/4.4.
"You can always flash stock and unroot", you sure manufacturer can't spot that it was modded before? And what If the phone just dies, you can't unroot and flash stock rom on a dead phone.
Yeah you can get it back to stock enough for warranty purposes. If it dies completely while modded then you should get your warranty too. It's really hard to totally brick. (Came from blade too via G300 and Moto G)
From my personal experience and opinion, lollipop it's very stable, on my D802 it's rocking...the only scratch is the LGFlashTool it's a little unstable for my opinion...I flashed Lollipop d802 v30a and it's perfect!!!
My advise is while you are with JB rom root it and flash TWRP recovery and then flash CM 12 (that's lollipop). I would do it if I knew LGFlashTool (for my experience) is so unstable...
Don't worry that a thread for you to read in general I think...for rooting, flashing, etc.
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But if I'm not mistaken, I'll void my completely new phone's warranty?
I'm a heavy user, I'll emulate games, play very graphically intensive games and I'll just squeeze everything I can out of the phone so warranty is nice in case CPU dies out of heat after a year or something.
And if I were to flash a custom rom now, what about Cloudy 3.0? The lolipop version?
Is it working great?
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You can always flash STOCK ROM and unroot, So you can retain warranty.
And CLOUDY G2 3.0 is for Korean Variants only right now.
** Remember : Before start flashing read xda threads about these carefully. You better start with root and TWRP with Autorec.
Hit thanks if get helped.
I have been using LL for about 5 months and could never get used to the lag. It was very faint but i could notice it. I tried the stock custom roms and the customs roms but was not able to find one that worked without lag. I also missed the status bar notifications on the lock screen. It was a pain always having to unlock it to see the notifications.
So i decided to go back to KK. I used CloudyG3 1.2 rom and KK modem/radio and am very pleased. Much smoother than LL. Status bar notification on lock screen is a godsend. It even seems like the display is a bit crisper. Maybe thats just my eyes playing tricks on me because i am so impressed with KK. anyways just wanted to tell you about my experience.
Yeap, it's your eyes! I have bought my g3 when lollipop was already on it so i haven't had the opportunity to test KK, but i have installed it 2 months ago out of curiosity.
Lollipop is definitely smoother and faster. If you search YouTube, there is a proof of that, with animations in Kk vs lollipop in slow-motion. You'll be going back in a few hours/days
Of course you think LL is smooth. You have nothing to compare it to. Without testing both of them first hand like I have your comments do not mean much. I went from KK to LL back to KK.
Read again what i have written. I have tested kk also, 2 months ago.
My comments don't have to mean something necessarily. Why did you start this post, if you are so easily offended? Lollipop is definitely better, smoother, faster than kk. You can start a poll, you will see you are wrong, lollipop will win by far. Haha. Over and out.
Dude I bought my LG G3 with Lollipop as well. Didn't have a chance to test Kitkat on it, but, I used to have Kitkat on my Nexus 5 and it was so much better than Lollipop I'm telling you. My LG G3 is laggy is hell and gets hot for no reason at all and the battery doesn't give me even a solid 3 hours SOT, I hate Lollipop. Can you please give me the link to download the CloudyG3 1.2 Kk ROM? I searched but I couldn't find it
I also would like to know where to find Kit Kat rom and baseband for downgrade. I looked in the forums but all links I found were offline. THank you.
Just a tip, but part of the heat issue that I have discovered and a decent remedy is if you are wherever and using WiFi- turn off cellular data because your phone is constantly searching for the strongest signal and I easily run 5°-10° cooler and my battery life is definitely better. I hated, and I mean despised LP for almost a year- and the past few months on my G2 and G3 it has grown on me, I don't get much lag that isn't associated with my own bs, maybe you just haven't tried the right LP rom yet?
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Dude I bought my LG G3 with Lollipop as well. Didn't have a chance to test Kitkat on it, but, I used to have Kitkat on my Nexus 5 and it was so much better than Lollipop I'm telling you. My LG G3 is laggy is hell and gets hot for no reason at all and the battery doesn't give me even a solid 3 hours SOT, I hate Lollipop. Can you please give me the link to download the CloudyG3 1.2 Kk ROM? I searched but I couldn't find it
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He probably was not using cloudy's ROM. Amature mistake.
cloudy link: http://oceanhost.eu/aa1f1nyg1j9o/CloudyG3_1.2.zip.html
kk baseband: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=33055
i used the 10E modem.
luccasvr said:
I also would like to know where to find Kit Kat rom and baseband for downgrade. I looked in the forums but all links I found were offline. THank you.
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i just posted it.
mandroid717 said:
He probably was not using cloudy's ROM. Amature mistake.
cloudy link: http://oceanhost.eu/aa1f1nyg1j9o/CloudyG3_1.2.zip.html
kk baseband: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=33055
i used the 10E modem.
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Thanks for making me fall in love with my LG G3 all over again. Absolutely love Kitkat! No lag at all compared to Lollipop, battery is good and it only gets heated when I'm gaming on it. I'll stick with this ROM until a more stable Lollipop/Marshmallow release is available from LG.
Cheers :good:
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Thanks for making me fall in love with my LG G3 all over again. Absolutely love Kitkat! No lag at all compared to Lollipop, battery is good and it only gets heated when I'm gaming on it. I'll stick with this ROM until a more stable Lollipop/Marshmallow release is available from LG.
Cheers :good:
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Glad I could help. What I like most actually is I can see notifications on lockscreen again. Woohoo
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Glad I could help. What I like most actually is I can see notifications on lockscreen again. Woohoo
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Yes I love that as well!
Btw do you keep using Dalvik or did you switch to ART? Because I just switched to ART and the phone becomes kinda unusable, some apps don't wanna launch and the phone became kinda laggy. Should I just stick with Dalvik?
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Yes I love that as well!
Btw do you keep using Dalvik or did you switch to ART? Because I just switched to ART and the phone becomes kinda unusable, some apps don't wanna launch and the phone became kinda laggy. Should I just stick with Dalvik?
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I've always stuck with Dalvik just because never really noticed a difference.
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He probably was not using cloudy's ROM. Amature mistake.
cloudy link: http://oceanhost.eu/aa1f1nyg1j9o/CloudyG3_1.2.zip.html
kk baseband: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=33055
i used the 10E modem.
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I just brought my g3 yesterday it came with lollipop im on cloudy 2.5 so can i downgrade to kk by flashing cloudy 1.2 and then flashing the modem is it a zip that i flash the modem im in uk
Ismail.A said:
I just brought my g3 yesterday it came with lollipop im on cloudy 2.5 so can i downgrade to kk by flashing cloudy 1.2 and then flashing the modem is it a zip that i flash the modem im in uk
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Yes but make sure it is the right version modem. Not sure what it is for the UK. I used the international modem.
I would recommend an AOSP Lollipop build (BlissPop for example) running at 1080P. QHD makes zero difference at this screen size and running at 1080P the phone flies, not to mention a (marginally) better battery life.
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I would recommend an AOSP Lollipop build (BlissPop for example) running at 1080P. QHD makes zero difference at this screen size and running at 1080P the phone flies, not to mention a (marginally) better battery life.
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If you don't use the camera maybe this not a terrible idea. The stock Kit Kat rom is definitely faster and much much much more stable. And you can use the laser focus and full camera features. Plus the IR blaster. If you disable the stock apps you don't use, its a way better choice than the featureless ASOP roms.
hi there, im using stock rooted lollipop rom v20h, i want to try KK rom to compare but which modem is for international model ? i cannot tell which is best for me cause when i got my phone 2 weeks ago it came with lollipop.
can anyone recommend on a suitable modem pls ?
thanks.
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I am also planning to downgrad to Kk.
Just downgraded my d855, to kk. Cloudy 1.2, it 4.4.2 kk rom seems to run fine imso used to lollipop that it feels a bit weird. I used 10o modem which felt not so good for my device. Then put 10i modem and its great. Now im looking for a good kernel.
Ill test itforfew days and see how i feel compared to stock lollipop. 5.0
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