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[4.2.2] Firmware Android leaked 4 Wi-fi version

hi people ...
This morning during my usual research, I came across a site that I upgraded incredibly over whether it is possible to update my Note 8 (wi-fi version) to the latest version of Android available today, namely Jelly Bean 4.2.2
The file to flash is entirely official and comes from the server SamMobile so who gets in and try it ...
Apparently there is a greater fluidity of the whole system as well as better battery management - which to me does not last at all, on the detail and just wanting to talk about it ...
The uploaded firmware via Odin (included in the package that'll download in v3.07) must be performed after a backup of all Our data since it will be permanently deleted, so be careful what you do - neither I nor others we take the responsibility for what you are to do
Launched the tablet in download mode (power button + power + volume down), connect the device to the PC until you get the blue signal in Odin, after which add the file CODE_N5110XXCMG2_1031850_REV01_user_low_ship.tar in CODE section and the file CSC_OXA_N5110OXACMG2_1031850_REV01_user_mid_noship.tar in CSC section as well as the kona_wifi.pit file in PIT.
Start the firmware flash just entered and wait ...
...so, we should also have Android 4.2.2 on Our Note 8
Let me know how it goes the operation, thanks ...

Were you able to re-root
Piè_Nexus said:
hi people ...
This morning during my usual research, I came across a site that I upgraded incredibly over whether it is possible to update my Note 8 (wi-fi version) to the latest version of Android available today, namely Jelly Bean 4.2.2
The file to flash is entirely official and comes from the server SamMobile so who gets in and try it ...
Apparently there is a greater fluidity of the whole system as well as better battery management - which to me does not last at all, on the detail and just wanting to talk about it ...
The uploaded firmware via Odin (included in the package that'll download in v3.07) must be performed after a backup of all Our data since it will be permanently deleted, so be careful what you do - neither I nor others we take the responsibility for what you are to do
Launched the tablet in download mode (power button + power + volume down), connect the device to the PC until you get the blue signal in Odin, after which add the file CODE_N5110XXCMG2_1031850_REV01_user_low_ship.tar in CODE section and the file CSC_OXA_N5110OXACMG2_1031850_REV01_user_mid_noship.tar in CSC section as well as the kona_wifi.pit file in PIT.
Start the firmware flash just entered and wait ...
...so, we should also have Android 4.2.2 on Our Note 8
Let me know how it goes the operation, thanks ...
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Were you able to stay rooted?

Thanks for the beneficial info!
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does it work for the GT-N5120 ?

4.2.2
Is it really fast and more stable?

gshaw1967 said:
Were you able to stay rooted?
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the process will void your warranty because it is a beta rom (unofficial) but should not serve root permissions to do this ...
... remarked that this custom rom / firmware is only for the GT-N5110 !!!
nb. Obviously those were brought innovations introduced by Google with Android 4.2.2 as the lock screen widget, the quick setting and other software implementations.

will be curious to have some users talk about how this works for them...obviously flashing leaked software voids your warranty, but, everyone here already understands that...

i have the LTE version .... but not a single ROM is made for it :crying:

Has anyone tried this yet? I'm downloading now, and will probably go for it (though maybe not till later tonight/tomorrow. I'll update this post with a few comments once I've had a look at it.
UPDATES:
CF Auto Root works fine to root this version.
ALL data (including internal SD) is wiped using the above method.
Internal SD card data is all in /DATA/MEDIA/0 after this update, so even if you manage to update without a full SD wipe, nothing is going to be where you expect it to be. Unfortunately no multi-user though Beware when restoring a nandroid that the new location of SDCARD may cause problems.
Everything important (to me) seems to be working fine. Despite the SD card wipe, all my S-notes reappeared by samsung sync, so I'll just have afew pictures, pdfs and documents to copy back. Definitely feels faster, the Note 8 always felt really sluggish compared to my HTC One, but now there is not much between them. It even feels more responsive now than the GS4 I tried out when I was comparing it to the HTC.

wase4711 said:
will be curious to have some users talk about how this works for them...obviously flashing leaked software voids your warranty, but, everyone here already understands that...
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There is not too much difference from the "old" firmware 4.1.2 but for performance let us come in a few hours ...
If you are interested, this is the album with the pictures of this custom firmware 4.2.2 inside the note 8.0 wifi only of the friend's niccolò ...
byeeeee
@rmein... await us all, I'm waiting for your new sdcard

note 8
Has anyone tried it yet?

Downloading now...was over an hour. 15 min left

My main concern about flashing this is requirement to flash the new partition table. None of the 4.1.2 firmwares I have looked at seem to have a .PIT file, so I'm a bit concerned I won't be able to go back to 4.1.2 if this turns out to be a bit buggy.

I've gone ahead and done it. Bugs so far:
I've only once been able to edit the extended toggles, subsequent attempts force-close the Settings app (In fact going to settings -> notification panel force-closes settigns too). Wifi seems a bit flaky but that could be my workplace, will try at home tonight.
But...
Apps can be moved to SD card now, a lot of them, but their icon is replaced with a SD card one [edit: Only on the homescreen, you can remove it and re-add it and it's fine].
More as I find it...
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The gallery has a much nicer layout...

where does the code file go? In PDA?

flathunt said:
I've gone ahead and done it. Bugs so far:
I've only once been able to edit the extended toggles, subsequent attempts force-close the Settings app (In fact going to settings -> notification panel force-closes settigns too). Wifi seems a bit flaky but that could be my workplace, will try at home tonight.
But...
Apps can be moved to SD card now, a lot of them, but their icon is replaced with a SD card one [edit: Only on the homescreen, you can remove it and re-add it and it's fine].
More as I find it...
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The gallery has a much nicer layout...
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Yes, it's normal that there are bugs ... however, we are talking about a beta and not a final draft, though coming.
Let's say that affect the transparencies that were not there before, the ability to have all the widgets available and how to claim the boys SamMobile greater responsiveness attached to a battery power more gradually - the only thing that interests me honestly: P

I'm very happy with the update so far. Definitely much more responsive than 4.1.2. No serious bugs so far.
Time to start messing about with it, I never bothered on 4.1.2 because I knew there would be a 4.2.2 coming soon enough....

rmein said:
I'm very happy with the update so far. Definitely much more responsive than 4.1.2. No serious bugs so far.
Time to start messing about with it, I never bothered on 4.1.2 because I knew there would be a 4.2.2 coming soon enough....
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Nice to read that. I shall wait for the upcoming custom roms based on the leaked fw, though.

quick questions
rmein said:
I'm very happy with the update so far. Definitely much more responsive than 4.1.2. No serious bugs so far.
Time to start messing about with it, I never bothered on 4.1.2 because I knew there would be a 4.2.2 coming soon enough....
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Can you still root at 4.2.2 & how many apps can be installed in SD card? It is just the samsung apps or anyapp?
Thanks in advance
G

guildamx said:
Nice to read that. I shall wait for the upcoming custom roms based on the leaked fw, though.
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Hopefully 4.2.2 will encourage a few more users to try their hand at making custom roms. There are so few roms at the moment that I'm even tempted to share the few tweaks I make to the stock rom (basically just rooting, deleting some of the stuff I don't use and installing Xposed)
Civato and soloilmeglio are doing great stuff, and perhaps now we are the first in the Note family to get 4.2.2 we might get some attention from other experienced devs.
@gshaw1967: just use CF Autoroot, I think it's just downloaded apps you can move to the SD card.

Note 2 - 4.3 Update coming soon:

Well instead of me writing, here is the link:
http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/galaxy_s4s3note_2_getting_4_3_gear_support_in_the_coming_weeks.html
I hope someone can leak out the final built for the n7105 section... I live in Australia, if America is getting it in a couple of weeks it means I'm getting it in a couple of years so we would appreciate the leak once it's released.

new thread, subsribed!!
via Note2

agreed mate
electroking said:
Well instead of me writing, here is the link:
http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/galaxy_s4s3note_2_getting_4_3_gear_support_in_the_coming_weeks.html
I hope someone can leak out the final built for the n7105 section... I live in Australia, if America is getting it in a couple of weeks it means I'm getting it in a couple of years so we would appreciate the leak once it's released.
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im the same live in brissy been trying the at&t version seanz rom everything works but dont have wifi due to bootloader issues be sweet once that is sorted the rom is butter smooth but no wifi is the killer as vodafone data sucks nuts on 4g where i am

This is the update schedule for American carriers. Does that mean that unlocked phones will get it sooner? I hope so. I only just bought the note 2 (Best decision ever) and would love it to be running on 4.3 ASAP.

mattytheflasher said:
im the same live in brissy been trying the at&t version seanz rom everything works but dont have wifi due to bootloader issues be sweet once that is sorted the rom is butter smooth but no wifi is the killer as vodafone data sucks nuts on 4g where i am
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I live in Brizzy too and I'll second or third that if its the only way we can get it? Sorry for the possibly stupid question, but is it true that if you have rooted and installed a custom rom, then you won't get the push update from your carrier anyway?... so.... the only way to get 4.3 on my (and I assume your rooted phone) is via custom rom download?

whokilledsanta said:
I live in Brizzy too and I'll second or third that if its the only way we can get it? Sorry for the possibly stupid question, but is it true that if you have rooted and installed a custom rom, then you won't get the push update from your carrier anyway?... so.... the only way to get 4.3 on my (and I assume your rooted phone) is via custom rom download?
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or if you go back to stock.
have issues with the ota updater as soon as i root my device. The moment i do that i get the message that my device has been changed and i cannot use the updater then. if i flash stock withouth root i don't have this issue.
reckon its best to make a backup of your apps with TB or any similar program when the official update is available, then flash back stock (no root) and update, afterwards simply restore your normal (non-system) apps and your ready

I'm in Aus too, but the official story (courtesy of Telstra) is that there won't be any updates as of JB 4.1.2, unless there's sufficient backlash ...

morph000 said:
I'm in Aus too, but the official story (courtesy of Telstra) is that there won't be any updates as of JB 4.1.2, unless there's sufficient backlash ...
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To answer you and the gentleman above... Australia will probably be the last country on earth to get the update as usual. So we might have to reside to getting it of some kind developer who uploads it here somewhere.
If you do wish to get updates you should go back to stock firmware (probably the first backup you made for your telstra 4.1.2) doesn't matter if it's rooted. Connect your phone to the PC and have KIES installed. Click update firmware and update (done, it will automatically unroot your phone and put back the stock recovery). You can easily update after that.
If anyone finds any android 4.3 working please update us here as soon as you can with a link to the page. If I find a working ROM for the official android 4.3 TW ROM I'll post it here too.

I don't think Aussie tel companies will well I don't have high hopes when it comes to Samsung I've always had HTC and Samsung and it's always the same get f all. I'm using 4.3.1 carbon I use GMD spen features for spen control and gestures don't use stock Sammy apps anyway.. just the 4.3 would be good because it's smooth as
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I like the update 4.3 but ill want rom without knox. I need root
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Well now...I've been holding off playing with rooting my phone (as I'm new to 'droid and have an awful lot to learn, but have come a LONG way in 2 weeks) as I was expecting Telstra to release an update. Since that appears NOT to be forthcoming, Ill consider the various root options, none of which are particularly appealing at the moment mainly as it seems no-one has a stock ROM for this phone online and I can't backup mine without root. Catch 22 it seems. Information on locked bootloaders, Telstra ROM mods, rooting the 7105 "T" version is VERY limited
So...if anyone happens to have a link for a ROM copy please let me know.
(Or info on a rooting technique that works)

Ultimately every one on xda will be using the custom 4.3 rom for the note 3 goodies because Samsung will not be releasing those features in it's official release
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morph000 said:
Well now...I've been holding off playing with rooting my phone (as I'm new to 'droid and have an awful lot to learn, but have come a LONG way in 2 weeks) as I was expecting Telstra to release an update. Since that appears NOT to be forthcoming, Ill consider the various root options, none of which are particularly appealing at the moment mainly as it seems no-one has a stock ROM for this phone online and I can't backup mine without root. Catch 22 it seems. Information on locked bootloaders, Telstra ROM mods, rooting the 7105 "T" version is VERY limited
So...if anyone happens to have a link for a ROM copy please let me know.
(Or info on a rooting technique that works)
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Okay I will explain what I done for you...
When I first rooted my Galaxy Note 2 in May, I was a new-comer to android, I had an iPhone for a long time. What I done was root my phone, I Odin installed TWRP after rooting because I really don't like CWM (those are the names of the 'recoveries' available), they will replace the default Samsung recovery. Just make sure you get TWRP. I think it's up to TWRP 2.6.3
Well yeah let's get back to the topic, as soon as I rooted I used TWRP to make a backup of my default Telstra ROM (completely with EFS, MODEM, basically tick everything you can possibly backup).
I took that backup and put it on my laptop and on my PC and I kept a copy on my external card the whole time. That was the best idea, any time I ever had any problems with my phone I went back to that backup. I even soft bricked my phone once and after hours of panicking I realised I can just Re-install the default backup, and it fixed my phone.
Oh and I just recently un-rooted my phone to check for updates. All I done was use SuperSU to do an UNROOT. Then went into recover, restored the original backup I made of the Telstra ROM. Plugged my phone into the PC, and used Samsung KIES to check for firmware update. It just restarted my phone, removed TWRP recovery, re-installed the samsung one, and it removed the root completely and I'm basically went back to my original telstra ROM. I can go into settings and check for updates and everything. (I can confirm there is no update as of yet).
AS for your other QUESTION.
ALL THE ROMS in the N7105 Section will WORK with your N7105T Model. It's the same thing. JUST WATCH OUT and make sure you never install N7100 ROMS (They will soft-brick and could hard-brick your phone).

Thanks for the input.
I've been considering between 3, namely CF AutoRoot, Galaxy Note Toolkit And (exploit based) Framaroot, with a bias towards Toolkit so far ( as it specifies the 7105 "T" variant).
But if you've actually ODINed a GT-7105T (Telstra) with CWP without issues, I'll certainly consider that.
Any one else care to chime in on this (if you've done the same phone/telco only though !)
I've come far enough to understand rooting,boot processes, CWM/TWRP, exploits AND the importance of picking the exact model !:laugh:
I'll take the plunge when I get enough input to decide.

morph000 said:
Thanks for the input.
I've been considering between 3, namely CF AutoRoot, Galaxy Note Toolkit And (exploit based) Framaroot, with a bias towards Toolkit so far ( as it specifies the 7105 "T" variant).
But if you've actually ODINed a GT-7105T (Telstra) with CWP without issues, I'll certainly consider that.
Any one else care to chime in on this (if you've done the same phone/telco only though !)
I've come far enough to understand rooting,boot processes, CWM/TWRP, exploits AND the importance of picking the exact model !:laugh:
I'll take the plunge when I get enough input to decide.
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It's not that hard really, you can't really mess it up if you follow the instructions... Hey root it whichever way you see fit, whatever you think is easier for you, don't listen to me. But I do highly recommend you get TWRP for backing up and formatting and installing your ROMS. Also I recommend PAC-MAN it's a good ROM, but it's not very stable at the moment (kind of).

electroking said:
It's not that hard really, you can't really mess it up if you follow the instructions... Hey root it whichever way you see fit, whatever you think is easier for you, don't listen to me. But I do highly recommend you get TWRP for backing up and formatting and installing your ROMS. Also I recommend PAC-MAN it's a good ROM, but it's not very stable at the moment (kind of).
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Don't take offense at my asking for multiple inputs. I just don't want to brick at $600 phone needlessly
I've now sourced a ROM from Sammobile and downloaded it last night.
I'm backing up settings and stuff tonight and will run with Galaxy Note 2 Toolkit tomorrow (I went PRO) and go for option 3 - THE LOT !
Hopefully it'll all go ok.

morph000 said:
Don't take offense at my asking for multiple inputs. I just don't want to brick at $600 phone needlessly
I've now sourced a ROM from Sammobile and downloaded it last night.
I'm backing up settings and stuff tonight and will run with Galaxy Note 2 Toolkit tomorrow (I went PRO) and go for option 3 - THE LOT !
Hopefully it'll all go ok.
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Haha you don't go pro over night my friend. Hope it all went all, if you have any issues or like to share your experience with the ROMS let us know.

electroking said:
Haha you don't go pro over night my friend. Hope it all went all, if you have any issues or like to share your experience with the ROMS let us know.
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Well, I did the deed last night with Toolkit PRO and it all went smoothly. No Telstra or Samsung nasties reared their heads PLUS there wasn't a yellow triangle either !
That's the trouble with being in Oz. It's such a small market and REAL information is very hard to come by...so one is very cautious !
Anyway thanks for your assistance :victory:

morph000 said:
Well, I did the deed last night with Toolkit PRO and it all went smoothly. No Telstra or Samsung nasties reared their heads PLUS there wasn't a yellow triangle either !
That's the trouble with being in Oz. It's such a small market and REAL information is very hard to come by...so one is very cautious !
Anyway thanks for your assistance :victory:
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I Odin flashed mine straight out of the box before I even set it up pulled backup and kept stock rom for warranty only.. these phones are pretty much unbrickable to an extent just don't go trying flashing n7100 roms and you'll be fine at&t roms are ok too just don't flash their bootloaders or even try to.. I change roms daily and have for like the last 2 years on my original note plus HTC's if your unsure on anything this place is helpful more than bloody Samsung
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Sammobile: 4.3 is rolling out for the S3.

New to S4

How's it going? I am upgrading to the S4 coming from the e4gt on Thursday. I've flashed just about everything there is for the e4gt, but would like to know what is recommended for starting out with this phone. What recovery do you recommend? I've downloaded the cf autoroot which I plan on using, and also the cwm jfltespr 6.0.3.6. Is this the best route for getting started? Thanks in advance.

Welcome over bt.
If you're going to stay on 4.2 then TWRP 2..5.0.2 has proven best for me and most others. TWRP-Recovery-jfltespr-2.5.0.2
If you're going to jump in to 4.3 (and I suspect you will) then use Philz CWM based recovery. philz_touch_5.18.2-jfltespr.tar
Just know that if you take the OTA or Odin 4.3 there is NO going back to 4.2 because of the Knox bootloader.
You can however run 4.3 on 4.2 firmware (non Knox tripped bootloader).
Many of the usual Sammy stuff caveats are the same. biggest difference is that Kernels are seperated from Recoveries. Making it easy to mix and match.
Flashing is a breeze, developers here are great - many came from the e4gt and S3. Same with the contributors and others.
Take some time to read through the posts and you'll soon get a good handle on it.
Have fun!

Hey, i remember you. It's great to see you here. How do I avoid the ota? Can I freeze system updates in tb or for toolbox? Also, what rom do you recommend that I try first? I was looking at the carbon rom, but will try 4.2 first because it looks like they have the save data issues on 4.3 like the e4gt. I will miss all the guys on project x.
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btvolta said:
Hey, i remember you. It's great to see you here. How do I avoid the ota? Can I freeze system updates in tb or for toolbox? Also, what rom do you recommend that I try first? I was looking at the carbon rom, but will try 4.2 first because it looks like they have the save data issues on 4.3 like the e4gt. I will miss all the guys on project x.
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If you install a custom recovery and kernel you won't be able to take the OTA - it may download but shouldn't install. I use TB to freeze Sprint Installer and Sprint Zone. Sprint Installer is a really sneaky app - it goes out and grabs all their crapware and just loads it up!.
I'd recommend Any of the 4.2 ROMs if you'd like to mess around - Sac, Unknownforce, Negamann's and of course rujelus22's.
For 4.3 I'd say give those guys a go too; just be sure to do it without tripping the Knox counter - using custom recovery and flashing ROM that has the knox bootloader removed.
For CM/AOSP type there are some pretty good ones too.Carbon, Sniper and Garwynn have some builds up. I like to try them but I'm a TW guy - I have to have everything working flawlessly for business so even small things like no 4G, no sms or the like make using them for my daily driver still out of the question for now.

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If you install a custom recovery and kernel you won't be able to take the OTA - it may download but shouldn't install. I use TB to freeze Sprint Installer and Sprint Zone. Sprint Installer is a really sneaky app - it goes out and grabs all their crapware and just loads it up!.
I'd recommend Any of the 4.2 ROMs if you'd like to mess around - Sac, Unknownforce, Negamann's and of course rujelus22's.
For 4.3 I'd say give those guys a go too; just be sure to do it without tripping the Knox counter - using custom recovery and flashing ROM that has the knox bootloader removed.
For CM/AOSP type there are some pretty good ones too.Carbon, Sniper and Garwynn have some builds up. I like to try them but I'm a TW guy - I have to have everything working flawlessly for business so even small things like no 4G, no sms or the like make using them for my daily driver still out of the question for now.
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Is there a chance my phone will come with the 4.3 already installed?

btvolta said:
Is there a chance my phone will come with the 4.3 already installed?
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A friend of mine just bought the S4 two days ago and maybe he was lucky but it was still on 4.2 But don't know if that's the case with all of them.
GS4 Stock Rooted MJA 4.3,Philz Touch CWM,HotSpot Mod,Transparent Weather Widget,8SMS(Stock Messaging,KitKat)

btvolta said:
Is there a chance my phone will come with the 4.3 already installed?
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as @BIGSAMDA1ST said, there is that possibility. Really depends on the supplier and how deep their inventory is.
If is on 4.2, after initial setup it will surely try and update to 4.3 if you let it - I wouldn't. But that's just me. I'd keep it 4.2 and go the 'non-knox' route to 4.3.

btvolta said:
Is there a chance my phone will come with the 4.3 already installed?
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Welcome!
I just got mine on Monday Pre Balck Friday Sale, been on E4GT bricked 3, 4th the power button broke and the E4GT was BO so the bumped me to GS3 was rooted running Cyan 11 4.4 kitkat, PA Gapps, Xposed 128 DPI then the Pre Sale .96 cent's upgraded to this GS4. Monday got it and a hour later the 4.3 OTA was pushed to the phone.
I do have to say this is a Big Learning Curve because a lot of the customization i was used to do on my phone is already stock on this phone.
Been researching trying to figure what exactly to do but also been running tests to see what improvements Sprint and or the phone has made for me. I agree with Leaderbuilder " I have to have everything working flawlessly for business so even small things like no 4G, no sms or the like make using them for my daily driver still out of the question for now".
Everything has seemed to be running great my wife upgraded from Galaxy S "GB" love ginger just not as a OP. Spending a lot of time finding how things work for her and have yet to set my phone up or let it settle in. I say all this to say "what I've read" in all different posts is there is possibly 1 stable 4.4 rom and just now trying to compare the benefit for me rooting. I know removing bloatware but it doesn't seem to be messing the phone up like it did on E4GT, battery life? What I've seen this is pretty good. So take your time get your phone and get used to it I think those of us who came from E4GT was used to having a "fairly good" phone and rooting to make it better however this seems to be at a different level.

I just moved from the Epic 4G to an S4. Still really missing my slide-out keyboard...
I bought my S4 a week ago and it came with 4.2.2. I had NO clue about the Knox BS, and doing a quick Google for 4.3 issues did not bring it up, so I took the OTA update. BIG mistake... Especially since I need to root to run ARLiberator.
Thankfully, my Sprint dealer is great, and after finding they could not roll it back, gave me a direct exchange to a new S4 with 4.2.2. If they would not have done that, I would have exchanged it for a white one to get back to 4.2.2.
Sooo, to sum it up, as of yesterday, it was possible to still get an S4 with 4.2.2 without Knox on it.

VaderSS said:
I just moved from the Epic 4G to an S4. Still really missing my slide-out keyboard...
I bought my S4 a week ago and it came with 4.2.2. I had NO clue about the Knox BS, and doing a quick Google for 4.3 issues did not bring it up, so I took the OTA update. BIG mistake... Especially since I need to root to run ARLiberator.
Thankfully, my Sprint dealer is great, and after finding they could not roll it back, gave me a direct exchange to a new S4 with 4.2.2. If they would not have done that, I would have exchanged it for a white one to get back to 4.2.2.
Sooo, to sum it up, as of yesterday, it was possible to still get an S4 with 4.2.2 without Knox on it.
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Chalk it up to me being an old 48 gray haired (although consider myself pretty good searcher) What exactly is Knox and why/not want or want it?What is the issue with taking the OTA update? Layman's terms? My sprint store has really cool tech's but they know nothing about rooting and all different issues. Always like playing with my phone for a bit and never get pissed if I get an issue they can't resolve.
Should I not have done the OTA update? I'm trying to determine if I actually want to root or not because things have seemed good so far.
Main 4.4 item i wanted was "OK Google" but I've got that on my stock phone, sure 128 dpi would be great but if it really worth it for me? I'm still out to lunch on that one.

VaderSS said:
I just moved from the Epic 4G to an S4. Still really missing my slide-out keyboard...
I bought my S4 a week ago and it came with 4.2.2. I had NO clue about the Knox BS, and doing a quick Google for 4.3 issues did not bring it up, so I took the OTA update. BIG mistake... Especially since I need to root to run ARLiberator.
Thankfully, my Sprint dealer is great, and after finding they could not roll it back, gave me a direct exchange to a new S4 with 4.2.2. If they would not have done that, I would have exchanged it for a white one to get back to 4.2.2.
Sooo, to sum it up, as of yesterday, it was possible to still get an S4 with 4.2.2 without Knox on it.
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Are you saying you can't root it because of the update? I believe you still can.

btvolta said:
Are you saying you can't root it because of the update? I believe you still can.
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jtsv said:
Chalk it up to me being an old 48 gray haired (although consider myself pretty good searcher) What exactly is Knox and why/not want or want it?What is the issue with taking the OTA update? Layman's terms? My sprint store has really cool tech's but they know nothing about rooting and all different issues. Always like playing with my phone for a bit and never get pissed if I get an issue they can't resolve.
Should I not have done the OTA update? I'm trying to determine if I actually want to root or not because things have seemed good so far.
Main 4.4 item i wanted was "OK Google" but I've got that on my stock phone, sure 128 dpi would be great but if it really worth it for me? I'm still out to lunch on that one.
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The OTA update installs the Knox boot loader which cannot be rolled back. Once on it, you are on it for good, at least at present.
Knox adds a tattle-tale, so that if you root in the conventional, "fully rooted" manner, install a custom recovery, rom, or kernel, it will trip a flag, titled "Knox Warranty Void" which cannot, at present, be reset. which also breaks certain functionality in the phone. If you don't care about tripping this flag, it looks like you can still mod your phone as before.
There is a way to partially root in spite of Knox, without tripping the flag, but this method may open your phone up in ways you don't want to do. This is still under investigation.
Personally, I did not want a non-resetable flag telling Sprint/Samsung that I had modded my phone... That in itself was enough to make me return the phone.

Thank you for explaining now you have given me more to think about. Why do they care since warranties still cover rooting? Also makes me have something else to add to the puzzle do I root or not. Most things I was rooting for are now stock so I will continue to think about now knowing about the Knox.

Hello BTVOLTA...looking fwd to being here as well. Coming from the E4GT myself this evening and am looking forward to the stuff this thing has the ability to do:thumbup:

btoddweber said:
Hello BTVOLTA...looking fwd to being here as well. Coming from the E4GT myself this evening and am looking forward to the stuff this thing has the ability to do:thumbup:
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I'm waiting in line right now
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jtsv said:
Thank you for explaining now you have given me more to think about. Why do they care since warranties still cover rooting? Also makes me have something else to add to the puzzle do I root or not. Most things I was rooting for are now stock so I will continue to think about now knowing about the Knox.
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Well the knox bootloader is big if you are worried about warranty issus and if may need to run 4.2 ROMs.
If you don't think you ever will have either of those situations then that shouldn't matter.
Knox also does have some cool stuff for the corporate world - high security container for applications etc. It's essentially a secure 'sandbox'. I think you'll find many more corps. insisting on an using it. I know my brothers company gave him an S4 with knox for just that reason - secure email/CRM container and connection. This guy had the need too.
But for me I really am pissed that, if needed, I could not set my device to factory original.
Just one more thing an entity will use to keep from supporting a hardware problem they should own by blaming me.
I've had phones with bad radios (GPS part) that needed warranty replacement and one time was told no because I had a custom ROM and the problem was my ROM or my fault for 'destroying' the chip. I promplty went back around the corner flashed a stock .tar and walked back in and proved it to be the hardware.
All that being said this is so far the best phone I've had. And the developers and support folks here are great.
Welcom over y'all and have some fun.

Just got mine and I guess while I was looking foe a case they pushed the update while setting up my s4.
Any advice on what to do?

Depending on the inventory your new one may come with MF9. If so you can just use cf-autoroot to root install a custom recovery and go from there. There is a thread on how to update that firmware (modem and radio) without tripping the knox counter.
To keep it from updating don't take any 'Sprint Firmware updates' during install. You can root right away and then use Titanium to freez the sprint installer and sprint zone to keep the update at bay.
If it comes with MJA you can still root and then install custom recovery. You will just not be able to run a 4.2 ROM stock (using Odin).

Yeah thats the issue part says dont care othet says dont need security issue but its nice to be safe amd secure. Bricked 3 E4GT andb4th power button broke but all covered by insurance when they upgraded me to GS3 and then I needed a new phone and got the Gs4.
My 3 was running Cyan 11 w/4.4 kitkat and Xposed 128 dpi. I have almost everything I was used to with root with this stock except the 128 dpi so Im trying to figure if I just need to play it safe for a while or not.
I'm irritated by the play store every time I try to install with it pulling 1 of 3 error codes ever since upgraded to 4.3 so part of me wants to just root to 4.4 since I know how it runs but Ive only found 1 stable 4.4 available and not too familiar of roms since my experience is from E4GT and Gs3 days.
My first thoughts are if I know I may have issues and create more issues with my phone with Knox then why even bother?
Last clarification if I root Knox then acts like the old odin counter and or it also will keep me from flashing unroot back to stock? Kinda if can't reboot back to stock then if I softbrick and need help im on my own where as in past I still got help from sprint tech support and insurance because they couldn't prove I rooted an csused the issue.
Knox makes it permanent like water damage sticker with iOs?

btoddweber said:
Just got mine and I guess while I was looking foe a case they pushed the update while setting up my s4.
Any advice on what to do?
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I was all over it, made sure they didn't push the update. I now have it frozen, and I flashed beanstalk. It's running great so far. It seems though that none of the nice features that come with this phone are on this ROM. Next I will look to flash another kernel and then comadose. BTW, the recovery I installed B is Philz. It appears that if you want to use some of the nice stock options, probably need flash a TW ROM.
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New to samsung, would like help with root

Hey as in the title, im new to samsung phones entirely besides a brief experience with the galaxy prevail on boost, I am not familiar with the ODIN process and downloading the different firmwares as my previous device was a Droid Razr HD maxx and everything was one click root and one click bootloader unlock when I needed to do stuff.
Im looking for a dummies work through to root and get the leaked KK build then the right way to stop OTA on samsung devices (on moto I simply froze the updater in titanium backup.
Model SM-900V (just bought yesterday and keep having to ignore the OTA afraid one time im gona accidentally click yes)
Android version 4.3
Baseband N900VVRUBMJE
Kernel 3.4.0 [email protected] #1 Mon November 11 19:53:12 KST 2013
Build JSS15J.N900VVRUBMJE
SE Android status Permissive
HW version N900V.07

AndroidGreg said:
Hey as in the title, im new to samsung phones entirely besides a brief experience with the galaxy prevail on boost, I am not familiar with the ODIN process and downloading the different firmwares as my previous device was a Droid Razr HD maxx and everything was one click root and one click bootloader unlock when I needed to do stuff.
Im looking for a dummies work through to root and get the leaked KK build then the right way to stop OTA on samsung devices (on moto I simply froze the updater in titanium backup.
Model SM-900V (just bought yesterday and keep having to ignore the OTA afraid one time im gona accidentally click yes)
Android version 4.3
Baseband N900VVRUBMJE
Kernel 3.4.0 [email protected] #1 Mon November 11 19:53:12 KST 2013
Build JSS15J.N900VVRUBMJE
SE Android status Permissive
HW version N900V.07
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THIS thread will get you rooted. THIS thread will help you get to 4.4.2. Lastly, THIS thread will show you what to change to prevent the OTAs. Just read through them and be sure you understand what you're doing before starting. It is pretty simple, take your time and if you have questions don't be afraid to ask.

airmaxx23 said:
THIS thread will get you rooted. THIS thread will help you get to 4.4.2. Lastly, THIS thread will show you what to change to prevent the OTAs. Just read through them and be sure you understand what you're doing before starting. It is pretty simple, take your time and if you have questions don't be afraid to ask.
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Thank you, so far I have root (yay) safestrap installed, for the first time ever haha, and i just blocked the ota for now, will work on KK tonight. I think its time for a drink, samsung is confusing as hell, im assuming since I used kingo for root and it booted up custom that I tripped the knox security right?

AndroidGreg said:
Thank you, so far I have root (yay) safestrap installed, for the first time ever haha, and i just blocked the ota for now, will work on KK tonight. I think its time for a drink, samsung is confusing as hell, im assuming since I used kingo for root and it booted up custom that I tripped the knox security right?
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No you did not trip Knox, that just means you're rooted. You can install THIS app to get rid of the "custom" icon. Just install it and hit "reset flash counter" then reboot.

There is also a free version here.
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Thanks guys, this has been kinda a hellish conversion to sammy from moto as everything is different especially with root and flashing I honestly hate touch whiz yet love some of the features, wish i could toggle off the damn notification widget the small one and huge one and have stock 4.3/4.4 bar up there I like how on stock it shows my google acct and other stuff

Ok im having a problem, when trying to flash KK
- Install De-Odexed or Odexed NC2 zip or Baja Rom KKv1 (from sdcard) (Keep your eyes open for additional 4.4.2 Roms)
I downloaded the de-odexed nc2 that 1.6 gb file, dragged the zip to my sd, boot into recovery, wipe internal and the file is nowhere to be found on my SD, not sure whats going on really. It seems like everything keeps disappearing.

Nevermind, The thread needs to be edited to tell people to ONLY put it on the internal memory, external Never worked for me tried 10 times downloading and transferring, in phone and my macbook sd card slot (i am not using OSX to do this i am using Windows 8.1)

Awesome thread I will be getting a replacement note 3 hopefully Tuesday and I am completely new to samsung more of a htc person. .. but happy I got the note 3
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breakyosef said:
Awesome thread I will be getting a replacement note 3 hopefully Tuesday and I am completely new to samsung more of a htc person. .. but happy I got the note 3
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You should like it a lot, Its somewhat confusing from motorola but I got the hang of it, would like that first reply to have a sticky labled "Dummies Come here, THIS IS HOW TO ROOT, SS, UPDATE TO 4.4, AND Stop OTA" The only problem was like what I said earlier use internal mem, honestly I recommend removing your SD if you have one in because theirs a wipe option and it doesn't seem like its that hard to accidentally hit.

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You should like it a lot, Its somewhat confusing from motorola but I got the hang of it, would like that first reply to have a sticky labled "Dummies Come here, THIS IS HOW TO ROOT, SS, UPDATE TO 4.4, AND Stop OTA" The only problem was like what I said earlier use internal mem, honestly I recommend removing your SD if you have one in because theirs a wipe option and it doesn't seem like its that hard to accidentally hit.
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Thank you I will do tomorrow and report back what rom you flash
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breakyosef said:
Thank you I will do tomorrow and report back what rom you flash
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Just the stock nc2 deodexed, i only chose deodexed because it is more mod friendly if i decide to ever do anything, odexed is supposedly faster but I have not noticed a difference since android reached over 800mhz single core other then boots take a little bit longer, honestly now all I need is to find the sd card permissions fix for KK and im good

AndroidGreg said:
Just the stock nc2 deodexed, i only chose deodexed because it is more mod friendly if i decide to ever do anything, odexed is supposedly faster but I have not noticed a difference since android reached over 800mhz single core other then boots take a little bit longer, honestly now all I need is to find the sd card permissions fix for KK and im good
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Yeah I'm confused on what to flash, I was liking hyper drive but reading comments people experience freezing
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breakyosef said:
Yeah I'm confused on what to flash, I was liking hyper drive but reading comments people experience freezing
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Just stick with the links in the threads in post 2, rom later on when we got a better safe strap to work with

Want to root but scared

Ok, i just got my samsung galaxy s5 a week ago. And yesterday i checked for an update and there was one and i downloaded it and installed it. The update said it improved software stability on the s5. I have the t-mobile version and after i intstalled the update i found out that geohot released a root for the device :| . what im afraid of is that this update fixed the exploit the root is using or, this update will detect whether i root the device or now and knox will be tripped. does anyone else know anything about this update that was sent out by t-mobile yesterday?
KERNAL version
3.4.0-1616466
Fri May 23 20:25:39 KST 2014
Build Number
KOT49H.G900TUVU1ANE6
SE for Android Status
Enforcing
SEPF_SM-G900T_4.4.2_0016
Fri May 23 20:25:18 2014
Security software version
MDF v1.0 release 3
VPN v1.4 Release 1

nightlyshade said:
Ok, i just got my samsung galaxy s5 a week ago. And yesterday i checked for an update and there was one and i downloaded it and installed it. The update said it improved software stability on the s5. I have the t-mobile version and after i intstalled the update i found out that geohot released a root for the device :| . what im afraid of is that this update fixed the exploit the root is using or, this update will detect whether i root the device or now and knox will be tripped. does anyone else know anything about this update that was sent out by t-mobile yesterday?
KERNAL version
3.4.0-1616466
Fri May 23 20:25:39 KST 2014
Build Number
KOT49H.G900TUVU1ANE6
SE for Android Status
Enforcing
SEPF_SM-G900T_4.4.2_0016
Fri May 23 20:25:18 2014
Security software version
MDF v1.0 release 3
VPN v1.4 Release 1
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Try Towelroot, it is confirmed working on the S5 and it doesn`t trip KNOX. Link http://towelroot.com/ and click the Lambda from the phones browser and follow instructions.

+1 on towelroot. Works fast and nothing negative can happen if you mess up. I'm talking about the rooting process that is. Hit one button and done. If it's not compatible it just won't root
Sent to you from my slimmed down S5

your KNOX will trigger only if you install CUSTOM RECOVERY or CUSTOM KERNEL. and the safest method that I KNOW to root without triggering KNOX is TOWEL ROOT as described by our 2 good member in your thread.

rooting makes private mode useless

Towel Root is your best bet, like Chaintanyapatel8880 said the only time Knox will trigger is flashing a custom recovery or rom. I think the only rom you can flash that won't trigger it is the alliance rom in the tmobile section since there is an option to flash it through Odin.
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nightlyshade said:
Ok, i just got my samsung galaxy s5 a week ago. And yesterday i checked for an update and there was one and i downloaded it and installed it. The update said it improved software stability on the s5. I have the t-mobile version and after i intstalled the update i found out that geohot released a root for the device :| . what im afraid of is that this update fixed the exploit the root is using or, this update will detect whether i root the device or now and knox will be tripped. does anyone else know anything about this update that was sent out by t-mobile yesterday?
KERNAL version
3.4.0-1616466
Fri May 23 20:25:39 KST 2014
Build Number
KOT49H.G900TUVU1ANE6
SE for Android Status
Enforcing
SEPF_SM-G900T_4.4.2_0016
Fri May 23 20:25:18 2014
Security software version
MDF v1.0 release 3
VPN v1.4 Release 1
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Reiterating from my personal experience. T-Mo G900t KOT49H.G900TUVU1ANE6
I recently sent back a knox tripped back for battery issues, the battery life was horrid. Freaking Android system. (No problemas)
After trying towelroot i'm rooted with stock rom, Make sure to do these things when you do root, Disable ServiceIQ (Find in search) and start looking into making modifications via system tuner but don't do the one click partition stuff that improves stuff for you, that will earn you a factory reset and a whole lot of force closes. =)
Since i've rooted i've had no issues with installing Xposed, BusyBox and all the other goodies that rooting comes with but remember, if you do install a new rom which usually requires a new recovery you WILL trip knox :cyclops: (Correct me if i'm wrong)
I can't tell you how many times i've factory reset and rentered in my credentials but i'm loving titanium backup now.
Stay stock and modify, but don't touch bootloader or recovery
I'd love to get back to Alliance rom or Omega, but I want the radio updates until stuff is ironed out or knox is beaten. I made the mistake of rooting the first day and was stuck with the ANCH baseband and couldn't do anything about it and when you trip your knox you say byebye to radio and modem updates until the higher ups figure things out.

I'm not new to flashing ROMs, but I am new to flashing them for the S5. What is it with this KNOX thing that everyone keeps talking about? Why is it so dangerous? Is that the reason modding for the S5 seems to be at a standstill?

Luuthian said:
I'm not new to flashing ROMs, but I am new to flashing them for the S5. What is it with this KNOX thing that everyone keeps talking about? Why is it so dangerous? Is that the reason modding for the S5 seems to be at a standstill?
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KNOX is advanced security. Before if the binary counter goes custom we can use triangle away and reset the counter which will set the phone for the warranty but in case of KNOX, there is no way we can reset once it becomes 0x1. and the warranty is gone... there is no way as of yet to reset it... it can become 0x1 if you flash custom recovery and or custom kernel but if you use TOWEL ROOT by GEOHOT, knox will not change. I have tried personally...

Ah, okay. So you can actually easily flash the S5 (well, as much as any other locked phone) but people don't want to lose their warranty...
Doesn't seem like the worst trade-off to me though. If a Google Play edition of the device hits, I would gladly flash my device to a stock Android 5.0 ROM on the S5.

Luuthian said:
Ah, okay. So you can actually easily flash the S5 (well, as much as any other locked phone) but people don't want to lose their warranty...
Doesn't seem like the worst trade-off to me though. If a Google Play edition of the device hits, I would gladly flash my device to a stock Android 5.0 ROM on the S5.
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Actually It is a golden deal even if we loose warranty. rooting and custom recovery unlocks tons of features. It's like heaven for smartphone...

Luuthian said:
Is that the reason modding for the S5 seems to be at a standstill?
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Urghhh if I read another statement like that I'm gonna scream! Modding is NOT at a standstill!! Why do so many people use these sweeping statements just because they can't have a fully working non Samsung based Rom. Modding is very much on the move for Samsung based roms. If you are waiting for fully working non Samsung you may as well have bought a N5 as by not using Samsung software you lose a hell of a lot of what makes an s5 and s5! Buy a nexus... Save some money and be happy
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towerlroot worked here without messing up knox.
this is my first smartphone I was worried too -- ecspecially because I have insurance on the phone lol
I have not put in custom rom there yet because I need to get a SD card and would rather move my apps there before doing so, but no issues and the thing could not be easier to do with his program.

That's great...
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The question is, can a rooted (but older) firmware be as secure as a non-rooted (up-to-date) firmware?
Sure you install apps or modify certain files/settings to improve security, but what if there's a serious security flaw in the kernel?
Installing a newer kernel would render towelroot useless (the reason i don't mention CF-Auto-Root is because of KNOX, but you can't always have the best of both worlds)

Goldie said:
Urghhh if I read another statement like that I'm gonna scream! Modding is NOT at a standstill!! Why do so many people use these sweeping statements just because they can't have a fully working non Samsung based Rom. Modding is very much on the move for Samsung based roms. If you are waiting for fully working non Samsung you may as well have bought a N5 as by not using Samsung software you lose a hell of a lot of what makes an s5 and s5! Buy a nexus... Save some money and be happy
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I didn't mean it like that. I assume people simply aren't working on it much because the bootloader hasn't been unlocked. POintless to build ROMs that can't be used yet. That's all. I'm actually quite happy with my S5, and would be even if we never saw a big ROM community for it. It's a good phone, and Touch Wiz is far less intrusive than it used to be. Even knowing an F device is in the works I'm still happy with my purchase.