[Q] last fast (really) android version? - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

ok, we have a nexus, so we deserve updates and we have them....that's why we bought a nexus no?....
yes....but every update is a hit for our device's performance...I thought that last one would fix performance issues, but is not .
so...I bought one of these to my gf, sure that it would work well, I owned one a year ago and it was very good! nope....is slow, lags, remembers me a 100$ cheap tablet.
I considered to downgrade....is frustrating...what version do you remember as stunning fast, like a nexus should be?
4.1? damn, is too 2012-ish....
4.2? old but at least we have tiles on notification drawer...
4.3? good, some performance goodies, hw vsync...
4.4? I thought this would be the best choice because in theory is optimised for 512mb ram devices too....but was not performing well
5.0? don't say nothing...pff
I also read about f2fs as a revolution, but is not my tablet and my gf uses it for study and I can't take it to test...
thanks for reading and answering

My 2012 Nexus 7 (wifi) I had been on Android 4.4.4 when I updated to Android 5.0 using Wugs nexus root tool kit.
It had been sluggish on Kit Kat, but got more so when I went to Lollipop, even with a full wipe.
After about a week on 5.0 I rolled back to Android 4.3, and have been happy since.

Everyone is having different experiences and mine personally is that 5.0 is running greater for me then 4.4.4. That was with a complete full wipe (including data) when I flashed the image through wugs toolkit. There were initially bouts of lag (waking up screen, lock screen, etc) but the lags pretty much gone bar a few occasions. 5.0.1 will hopefully make the system more stable and not repeat what happened with 4.4.4 because my n7 ran like a pig after that update.

tabuser said:
My 2012 Nexus 7 (wifi) I had been on Android 4.4.4 when I updated to Android 5.0 using Wugs nexus root tool kit.
It had been sluggish on Kit Kat, but got more so when I went to Lollipop, even with a full wipe.
After about a week on 5.0 I rolled back to Android 4.3, and have been happy since.
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And how are you with 4.3? Perfect? I'm really considerino a downgrade....
I will try forma the last time a full wipe and factory image, and then downgrade until I'm satisfied.
No words about f2fs?

I have just updated my n7 to Slim rom 5.0.1.
I have been frustrated by not being able to read a simple email using gmail application. Lags, lags, and "gmail is not responding do you want to close it"
I need to have two accounts for me and my wife, so the performance was even more slow.
Now with f2fs it is a rocket. I have installed every toolvI wanted and now also the Godfire game, and I must admit that it was a hit.
So thank you google to slow our machines to force buying the new ones, but my nexus7 from 2012 acts lighning fast now.

remmyhi said:
I have just updated my n7 to Slim rom 5.0.1.
I have been frustrated by not being able to read a simple email using gmail application. Lags, lags, and "gmail is not responding do you want to close it"
I need to have two accounts for me and my wife, so the performance was even more slow.
Now with f2fs it is a rocket. I have installed every toolvI wanted and now also the Godfire game, and I must admit that it was a hit.
So thank you google to slow our machines to force buying the new ones, but my nexus7 from 2012 acts lighning fast now.
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ok....I have to format on f2fs....that's the only way....
than...con you tell me how to do that? and also, I want to flash stock lollipop, no custom roms...
I read some but guides were outdated...and, FYI I am very experienced on flashing, so I will not take you much time

Not sure if stock can be ran on f2fs.
I installed slim rom and itis close to aosp.
Instruction is provided in the rom thread.
I am no very experienced and I handled without problems.

remmyhi said:
Not sure if stock can be ran on f2fs.
I installed slim rom and itis close to aosp.
Instruction is provided in the rom thread.
I am no very experienced and I handled without problems.
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wait. are you running kk?

Nope. Lollipop.

Slim f2fs on lollipop?

ConstantineTheGreat said:
Slim f2fs on lollipop?
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Have you got it? I'm not sure I want to keep lp on that tablet....how is it?
Even on my m8 lp performs bad, considering that is stock and my phone was on the top of benchmarks before nex 6 and 9 came out..

throcker said:
Have you got it? I'm not sure I want to keep lp on that tablet....how is it?
Even on my m8 lp performs bad, considering that is stock and my phone was on the top of benchmarks before nex 6 and 9 came out..
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No, I don't have it. I just asked is there slim lollipop on f2fs, because I tried rastapop and SleamFreak which are on 5.0 and have f2fs support, but I had problems like rebooting, problem with installing new apps, etc.
So for now, till I get answer from user emmyhi, I back to slimkat KK which run fantastic on our Nexus 7.

SlimPop (f2fs) by Freak is great. very fast.

cosmickamal said:
SlimPop (f2fs) by Freak is great. very fast.
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Yes, I can agree with you that is really fast, but I had a problem with gapps (downloaded one's give in thread) and I couldn't install Google play store (it wasn't installed with gapps???)
I couldn't resolve my problem with that, and also, even I did clean install I haven't got screen like I first time use this rom. I haven't got possibility to chose language, and everything else. Rom just moved me to homescreen. Maybe this is not for this thread, but, I'll wait some other version of slim on 5.0.

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Yes, I can agree with you that is really fast, but I had a problem with gapps (downloaded one's give in thread) and I couldn't install Google play store (it wasn't installed with gapps???)
I couldn't resolve my problem with that, and also, even I did clean install I haven't got screen like I first time use this rom. I haven't got possibility to chose language, and everything else. Rom just moved me to homescreen. Maybe this is not for this thread, but, I'll wait some other version of slim on 5.0.
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Did you try SlimGapps Normal one from the op link. That worked fine for me. You first flash the Rom. Boot. Go to recovery again. than flash Gapps. Boot. You will get the initialisation screen.

too much beta, I can't take my gf's tablet everytime she has a problem ahahah
I will try an evening every factory image and a kk f2fs rom to see which one performs better...then I'll let you know!

I'm running stock rooted 4.4.4 kitkat on mine with Lean Kernel 4.1. No lag, no issues with apps not working like on 5.0. Good battery life ,watched over 5 hours of movies last night and still had 49% left from a full charge. Standby time is excellent, I've only lost 2% over the last 9 hours.

ConstantineTheGreat said:
Yes, I can agree with you that is really fast, but I had a problem with gapps (downloaded one's give in thread) and I couldn't install Google play store (it wasn't installed with gapps???)
I couldn't resolve my problem with that, and also, even I did clean install I haven't got screen like I first time use this rom. I haven't got possibility to chose language, and everything else. Rom just moved me to homescreen. Maybe this is not for this thread, but, I'll wait some other version of slim on 5.0.
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cosmickamal said:
Did you try SlimGapps Normal one from the op link. That worked fine for me. You first flash the Rom. Boot. Go to recovery again. than flash Gapps. Boot. You will get the initialisation screen.
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riggerman0421 said:
I'm running stock rooted 4.4.4 kitkat on mine with Lean Kernel 4.1. No lag, no issues with apps not working like on 5.0. Good battery life ,watched over 5 hours of movies last night and still had 49% left from a full charge. Standby time is excellent, I've only lost 2% over the last 9 hours.
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that stock one with f2fs?

No, not here. Pure stock, rooted 4.4.4 KitKat. Removed a few Google apps I don't use, but still ext4. Lean Kennel really make a difference.

and....after a flashing afternoon....
4.2.2 stock was damn fast....
4.3 stock was even faster and smoother than 4.2.2
4.4 was worse......got better with lean kernel, but wasn't just fast and responsive enough.
the winner is....4.3......that's what I left on my gf's tablet....
everything runs good, apps opening instantly, look much 2013 but google launcher and google keyboard help...
this is my suggestion after my tests. good luck and hope next LP ota will fix some performance issues, not only on this one but for every phone which got slower with this update

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[Q] I'm on the leaked GB 4.5.573 - any sense in upgrading?

Everything is working flawlessly for me, I have had zero issues with this ROM since day one. Maybe I just don't use the phone enough or really stress it, but I have yet to come across any quirks on this leaked 4.5.573. Everything works - gps, netflix, any apps I download, corporate sync, etc. etc.
Is there any sense in upgrading to the latest official OTA GB? I figure if it ain't broke don't fix it...right? Or are there compelling reasons to go ahead with the official OTA? And if the answer is YES UPGRADE, what's the best way to do this considering I'm on 4.5.573 right now? BTW, I'm on Cricket.
I've got this same question. I want to upgrade for several reasons, but what I've read on several sites is that we have to do the SBF thing back to 2.2, then upgrade.
Almost none of the threads I've read at several sites even mention .573 anymore, so I'm not exactly sure of the route to go.
Why do you want to upgrade? Are you running into problems? Unless there's a good reason to upgrade I'd prefer not to, especially if I have to SBF in order to upgrade. That means I'll have to re-do my Cricket flash which I've probably done 50 times now but I'd prefer not to have to do it again.
hey guys,
i am on version 596 of gb, the official version. and i would highly recommend upgrading, there is a new kernel and new baseband. that means the phone runs more smooth and you have cleaner calling and stuff. i have noticed a big improvement in the new kernel and stuff. it would be very beneficial to upgrade in my opinion.
^^^
Those were the reasons I wanted to upgrade. Performance took a GOOD bump in the updates after .573
I just followed the instructions here...
http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/...new-full-sbf-droid-x-2-3-340-a.html#post56464
Method 2 worked for me, the first one wouldn't detect my phone. I got a boot loop after it finished so I booted into recovery and cleared the cache/data factory reset.
Now it's all fine.
Now to find the right set of GB update roms.
you'll want the updated radio found in the later versions and .596 runs buttery smooth. about a week of heavy use not one reboot or crash.
I gotta say, I'm VERY glad I did it. It was smooth and quick before, but good lord, this is CLEAN.
Not one reboot, not one crash, all NOICE!
i'm on 4.5.573 with root and the phone has been running crazy slow for the last week. will this work? i'm trying method 2 but it will not recognize my phone.
thanks!
RED ZMAN said:
^^^
Those were the reasons I wanted to upgrade. Performance took a GOOD bump in the updates after .573
I just followed the instructions here...
Method 2 worked for me, the first one wouldn't detect my phone. I got a boot loop after it finished so I booted into recovery and cleared the cache/data factory reset.
Now it's all fine.
Now to find the right set of GB update roms.
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I would reccomend updating to a newer version from team black hat. Its faster, smoother, the blur is different (better) and best of all, pre rooted.
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[Q] Android 4.4.2 Kitkat VS 5.0 Lollipop

I just installed official Touchwiz Lollipop from Samsung on my Galaxy S5 and i just wanted to ask you guys...
I think kitkat have a definitely better battery life and a much more beautiful lock screen... but Lollipop comes with ART and great design improvments on system apps.
Which one do you think it's better? Kitkat or Lollipop and why
KitKat is better (for now).
Better battery life, no proximity sensor issues, no wifi issues, no light sensor issues , TW works smoother, overal experience is better even with no ART. Benchmark scores is not everything.
I got Lollipop 3 times and every time I downgraded to KitKat stock rom with root.
No exposed framework on LP (yet).
Maybe in couple of months when LP will be more mature project I will update.
Android One is going to have Android 5.1 soon. For now they sticked with 4.4.4.
I think that Samsung was to hurry with 5.0. They should update to 4.4.4 (especialy they had 4.4.4 done for G901).
I beg to differ with qubbus, I think LP is a much better experience than KK.
- Much more refined and better looking UI;
- I've had none of the issues stated in his post. Battery is the same for me, no issues with the sensors.
- I indeed miss Xposed but for now I rather have the small tweaks of Lollipop.
All in all, the choice is yours.
rinxas said:
I beg to differ with qubbus, I think LP is a much better experience than KK.
- Much more refined and better looking UI;
- I've had none of the issues stated in his post. Battery is the same for me, no issues with the sensors.
- I indeed miss Xposed but for now I rather have the small tweaks of Lollipop.
All in all, the choice is yours.
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Battery was the main reason i choosed to downgrade.. I couldn't get even through 1 day !
The rest was fine for me. ( Even if i didn't liked that new lockscreen too much )
i got my s5 on kitkat and coming from a nexus4 I was quite unsatisfied with the smoothness. but some dev's at the N4 community are really far at solving bugs and memory leaks so lollipop is running quite perfect on the N4. anyway, after I flashed lollipop on my S5 for the first time I was quite happy with the smoothness. much better then KitKat! yesterday I downgraded to KitKat because I wanted to try wanam xposed. but I almost instantly returned to lollipop.. much, much better! it looks better (too bad it's still a long way from stock android), it's much smoother and for me; battery life isn't much different. I didn't encounter any bugs, for me lollipop is running bug less but I have to say I don't use any of Samsung's extra features..
l3o4nn said:
Battery was the main reason i choosed to downgrade.. I couldn't get even through 1 day !
The rest was fine for me. ( Even if i didn't liked that new lockscreen too much )
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how many hours?
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how many hours?
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8-9-10 hours on Lollipop pretty much used
With kitkat i can make it pretty easy through 1 day...and i use my phone like..alot !
l3o4nn said:
8-9-10 hours on Lollipop pretty much used
With kitkat i can make it pretty easy through 1 day...and i use my phone like..alot !
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well its a small computer with a cpu on par with certain laptops, its got the same resolution as a hi def tv, its constantly connected to the internet. i think wanting any more than 12 hours is ludicris and misguided.
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well its a small computer with a cpu on par with certain laptops, its got the same resolution as a hi def tv, its constantly connected to the internet. i think wanting any more than 12 hours is ludicris and misguided.
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Haha. i got your point. But my point was that with Lollipop i couldn t make even 12 hours.
funny how people have different problems with the same OS
I wonder if there like me who have problems in the game of Modern Combat 5? It fails at startup after lollipop update.
Pollie81 said:
i got my s5 on kitkat and coming from a nexus4 I was quite unsatisfied with the smoothness. but some dev's at the N4 community are really far at solving bugs and memory leaks so lollipop is running quite perfect on the N4. anyway, after I flashed lollipop on my S5 for the first time I was quite happy with the smoothness. much better then KitKat! yesterday I downgraded to KitKat because I wanted to try wanam xposed. but I almost instantly returned to lollipop.. much, much better! it looks better (too bad it's still a long way from stock android), it's much smoother and for me; battery life isn't much different. I didn't encounter any bugs, for me lollipop is running bug less but I have to say I don't use any of Samsung's extra features..
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What do you guys mean when you say "downgrade?" Am I missing something or been out of the game too long? I thought flashing a lower bootloader would result inn a brick? Enlighten me please
jdsingle76 said:
What do you guys mean when you say "downgrade?" Am I missing something or been out of the game too long? I thought flashing a lower bootloader would result inn a brick? Enlighten me please
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downgrade means going back too KitKat from lollipop.
Pollie81 said:
downgrade means going back too KitKat from lollipop.
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Lol, thanks. Yes, I understand what it means, my apologies for not elaborating. Are you saying that you're flashing the LP tar through Odin, then "downgrading" to KK by flashing the KK tar through Odin, or just flashing down up and down with zips through custom recovery?
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Lol, thanks. Yes, I understand what it means, my apologies for not elaborating. Are you saying that you're flashing the LP tar through Odin, then "downgrading" to KK by flashing the KK tar through Odin, or just flashing down up and down with zips through custom recovery?
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thru Odin because I want to keep my Knox untriggered..
Pollie81 said:
thru Odin because I want to keep my Knox untriggered..
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So you have successfully flashed a 4.4.2 or 4.4.4 KK tar using Odin AFTER flashing LP 5.0 through Odin or downloading it OTA?
jdsingle76 said:
So you have successfully flashed a 4.4.2 or 4.4.4 KK tar using Odin AFTER flashing LP 5.0 through Odin or downloading it OTA?
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Yup, that's what a lot of people are doing after updating via KIES or OTA to Lollipop and finding it worse than KK
Im considering it myself, although don't seem to be having as many issues as others are posting since factory resetting and freezing a few bloatware apps
For me KK is better than Lollipop.
1. Most mods here don't work on Lollipop, yet
2. Xposed isn't supported on Lollipop (BIG ISSUE FOR ME)
3. Notification dropdown background is transparent. I know I can change it if I flash AllianceRom 6.0, but the above 2 points still stand
Gonna wait until Rovo fixes Xposed (hopefully) and for most mods on XDA to recieve a Lollipop version as well (some have it now, but not even close to all of them)
Soo.yeah...Lollipop is smoother and better looking, which means absolutely nothing if you can't mod it the way you want to!
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If I wanna try Lollipop, can I restore my 4.4.2 nandroid backup over my 5.0 firmware just like I would normally if I'm on KK?
*Detection* said:
Yup, that's what a lot of people are doing after updating via KIES or OTA to Lollipop and finding it worse than KK
Im considering it myself, although don't seem to be having as many issues as others are posting since factory resetting and freezing a few bloatware apps
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Wow, that's better than it used to be when KK first came out for the S3. If you flashed a lower boot loader, you bricked!
jdsingle76 said:
Wow, that's better than it used to be when KK first came out for the S3. If you flashed a lower boot loader, you bricked!
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There seems to be a lot of conflicting info about it, but Ive read a good few people saying they have managed it fine with no problems after flashing back to KK - not done it myself yet though
But yea, a lot of places are saying if you flash from a KNOX enabled firmware back to a firmware without KNOX, it won't work due to the bootloader, but members here and droid central forums report it working 100% fine
Was there ever a build of KK that had KNOX ?
If yes, then that's likely the build people are flashing back to, if not, then I have no idea
Im still on the fence about flashing back, or just forgetting the warranty and rooting this thing on lollipop as it is
I suppose even if it bricked, you'd be able to recover with ODIN
I'm coming back to KitKat. I didn't like android lollipop. Some of the aplications are not supported and battery life is terrible

Random reboot with lollipop 5.1

I installed loillipop 5.1, from scratch using the factory image. All went smooth and the performance was much better than with 5.0.2 (which was my previous version), but I have random reboots unless I stay connected to the wall. This can be easily reproduced by putting the tablet to sleep (i.e., I pressing power button). Immediately my nexus reboots (99% of times).
I tried everything possible. Factory reset. Reistalled after formatting every possible partition. Reistalled starting from scratch without using my google backups. Nothing helps.
The only solution was to come back to 5.0.2 (again through the factory images, flashing and formatting everything).
Last test I am going to do is to use the OTA to go from 5.0.2 to 5.1 but I do not have much hope.
Anyone else experiencing similar problems?
It looks like an hardware issue put in evidence by the new kernel that is part of 5.1, but it could eb enything else.
Greetings.
Have you tried using any other kernel, eg. franco kernel?
Fobos531 said:
Greetings.
Have you tried using any other kernel, eg. franco kernel?
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Thanks for the suggestion, I didn't know Franco had released a version of his kernel for 5.1. I tried latest M-Kernel but it is not working with 5.1. Now I am sideloading the OTA from a stable 5..0.2, just to see if going to 5.1 using OTA helps. Will report if I succeed and in case I didn't will try with FK (and report).
Meanwhile, any other suggestion is welcome
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Greetings.
Have you tried using any other kernel, eg. franco kernel?
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Current situation after some more tests:
5.0.2 from factory image (full wipe): works
5.0.2 -> 5.1 via OTA: reboot each time goes to sleep (unless wall powered or attached to PC USB)
5.1 from factory image (full wipe): same as above
rastapop 5.1 (full wipe): same as above
5.1 + franco kernel R82: same as above
I would try to increase CPU voltage: any suggestion how to do? Which kernel to use? Which app to adjust voltages? I am going to try with franco kernel and trickstermod (which I already bought) but I am not sure this combination will allow me to adjust voltages.
EDIT: no way to adjust voltages with FK for 5.1. Reverting back to 5.0.2 and waiting someone gives suggestions or has similar issues (or releases new kernels)
Sideload 5.1, same issue. Even worse than 5.0.2.
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Sideload 5.1, same issue. Even worse than 5.0.2.
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Even in your case the device reboots just after entering sleep mode? Please confirm, I thought I was the only one, but if this happens to others then it must be a software issue, not hardware.
This does not happen at all to me(using stock 5.1 with Franco Kernel).
This is indeed happening to me as well with the factory 5.1 image. Also thought Franco Kernel could possibly be a solution but didn't work. I had F2FS previously but reverted to install stock 5.1.
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This is indeed happening to me as well with the factory 5.1 image. Also thought Franco Kernel could possibly be a solution but didn't work. I had F2FS previously but reverted to install stock 5.1.
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It looks like a mixed hw/sw problem. It is indeed clear that 5.1 works on most N7, either being installed from factory images or after an OTA upgrade, but for some of us it results in rebooting when the machine goes to sleep.
I attached last_kmsg (/proc/last_kmsg) just after the problem manifested. This is exactly what happens every time I put the device to sleep (pressing the power button or leaving it alone for a couple of minutes) and it repeats always the same (with the same kmsg).
Anyone knows how to extract other information that could be useful to isolate the source of the problem? Notice that I cannot do a catlog since the device doesn't go to sleep if it is connected to a PC (so I cannot recreate the problem).
Your battery is dying, I've been getting the same problem until I replaced the battery today.
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Your battery is dying, I've been getting the same problem until I replaced the battery today.
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A hardware problem related with the power unit of the device was also my first hypothesis, but under 5.0.2 i everything works perfectly and the battery has the original duration. Under 5.1 also everything works... until the device goes to sleep. Only then it reboots.
Was this the behavior in your case?
I've been getting the same issues on my N7 since updating.
regret to disappoint you people, but i have not a single reboot in my nexus 7 since doing a clean install from cm12. two days being unrooted, no reboots; now running three days rooted, still no reboot. could be due to the clean install i did. lol.....
ondoy1943 said:
regret to disappoint you people, but i have not a single reboot in my nexus 7 since doing a clean install from cm12. two days being unrooted, no reboots; now running three days rooted, still no reboot. could be due to the clean install i did. lol.....
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I also made a clean install of 5.1 using the factory image and formatting everything (from system to data and cache). Still I have the reboots. I come back to 5.0.2 (same procedure: clean install from factory image) and had no reboots in four days of use. Clean install of rastapop (5.1 based) or 5.0.2 -> 5.1 via OTA resulted in the same situation: The device reboots as soon as it goes to sleep.
I know several users installed 5.1 and have no issues, this is why I think this is a hardware problem put in evidence from the new software.
I hope someone find a way to deliver a 5.1 version that do not present the problem (I like how smoother 5.1 is w.r.t. 5.0.2). Perhaps a new kernel or a new rom as a whole.
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I also made a clean install of 5.1 using the factory image and formatting everything (from system to data and cache). Still I have the reboots. I come back to 5.0.2 (same procedure: clean install from factory image) and had no reboots in four days of use. Clean install of rastapop (5.1 based) or 5.0.2 -> 5.1 via OTA resulted in the same situation: The device reboots as soon as it goes to sleep.
I know several users installed 5.1 and have no issues, this is why I think this is a hardware problem put in evidence from the new software.
I hope someone find a way to deliver a 5.1 version that do not present the problem (I like how smoother 5.1 is w.r.t. 5.0.2). Perhaps a new kernel or a new rom as a whole.
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I've seen other people reporting the same issue on the nexus help forums too so hopefully Google will be looking in to this.
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I've seen other people reporting the same issue on the nexus help forums too so hopefully Google will be looking in to this.
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Sorry, which forums do you exactly mean? Something here on XDA or something managed by Google directly? If you could forward us to the right place we could add our report. The more we are the easier it is that Google takes the issue into consideration (I hope
Thanks
I've given up on LP for the N7. I've gone back to KK. Stability is awesome, performance is great. LP was a disaster on the N7. Performance issues, lock ups, etc. No matter how many times I clean installed it, etc, it just wasn't good.
I'm now officially calling it Lollipoop (at least for the 2012 N7). But, it is an old device. I'm still waiting to see how it turns out on my LG G3 phone. I'm sticking with KK on that phone as well for now until I know for sure it runs well on it.
Stability over bleeding edge.
Hi
JFYI, I have just updated my 2 sons' N7 2012 (coming from Omnirom) to Lollipop 5.1 (with Nexus Root Toolkit v2.0.4, meaning following the same procedure)
- 1 of them fine
- 2nd one with the issue reported here; which is why I'm on this thread now
updated kernel to franco r82
the issue remains...
will keep checking this thread
thansk
beng
gianpaoloc said:
Sorry, which forums do you exactly mean? Something here on XDA or something managed by Google directly? If you could forward us to the right place we could add our report. The more we are the easier it is that Google takes the issue into consideration (I hope
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So I can't post links yet because of my low number of forum posts but if you google 'nexus help after update to 5.1, it won't wake up after in sleep mode, please help' then it should be the first result that shows up.
Things were running fairly well for me with the slimkat 5.0.2 rom on F2FS so I'll likely switch back to that while this gets sorted out.
I've had my n7 for 2 years now, flashed all kinds of custom Roms, bricked it, fixed it, encrypted it, unencrypted it several times, and It has never ran as slow as it did on lollipop. I tried, 5.0, 5.0.2, and 5.1 I even reset kk to stock and let the ota's do the job and no matter what, LP is still not usable in my opinion. I feel sorry for the people that take the ota and do not know how to revert back to kk.
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Back to KK

I have been using LL for about 5 months and could never get used to the lag. It was very faint but i could notice it. I tried the stock custom roms and the customs roms but was not able to find one that worked without lag. I also missed the status bar notifications on the lock screen. It was a pain always having to unlock it to see the notifications.
So i decided to go back to KK. I used CloudyG3 1.2 rom and KK modem/radio and am very pleased. Much smoother than LL. Status bar notification on lock screen is a godsend. It even seems like the display is a bit crisper. Maybe thats just my eyes playing tricks on me because i am so impressed with KK. anyways just wanted to tell you about my experience.
Yeap, it's your eyes! I have bought my g3 when lollipop was already on it so i haven't had the opportunity to test KK, but i have installed it 2 months ago out of curiosity.
Lollipop is definitely smoother and faster. If you search YouTube, there is a proof of that, with animations in Kk vs lollipop in slow-motion. You'll be going back in a few hours/days
Of course you think LL is smooth. You have nothing to compare it to. Without testing both of them first hand like I have your comments do not mean much. I went from KK to LL back to KK.
Read again what i have written. I have tested kk also, 2 months ago.
My comments don't have to mean something necessarily. Why did you start this post, if you are so easily offended? Lollipop is definitely better, smoother, faster than kk. You can start a poll, you will see you are wrong, lollipop will win by far. Haha. Over and out.
Dude I bought my LG G3 with Lollipop as well. Didn't have a chance to test Kitkat on it, but, I used to have Kitkat on my Nexus 5 and it was so much better than Lollipop I'm telling you. My LG G3 is laggy is hell and gets hot for no reason at all and the battery doesn't give me even a solid 3 hours SOT, I hate Lollipop. Can you please give me the link to download the CloudyG3 1.2 Kk ROM? I searched but I couldn't find it
I also would like to know where to find Kit Kat rom and baseband for downgrade. I looked in the forums but all links I found were offline. THank you.
Just a tip, but part of the heat issue that I have discovered and a decent remedy is if you are wherever and using WiFi- turn off cellular data because your phone is constantly searching for the strongest signal and I easily run 5°-10° cooler and my battery life is definitely better. I hated, and I mean despised LP for almost a year- and the past few months on my G2 and G3 it has grown on me, I don't get much lag that isn't associated with my own bs, maybe you just haven't tried the right LP rom yet?
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Dude I bought my LG G3 with Lollipop as well. Didn't have a chance to test Kitkat on it, but, I used to have Kitkat on my Nexus 5 and it was so much better than Lollipop I'm telling you. My LG G3 is laggy is hell and gets hot for no reason at all and the battery doesn't give me even a solid 3 hours SOT, I hate Lollipop. Can you please give me the link to download the CloudyG3 1.2 Kk ROM? I searched but I couldn't find it
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He probably was not using cloudy's ROM. Amature mistake.
cloudy link: http://oceanhost.eu/aa1f1nyg1j9o/CloudyG3_1.2.zip.html
kk baseband: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=33055
i used the 10E modem.
luccasvr said:
I also would like to know where to find Kit Kat rom and baseband for downgrade. I looked in the forums but all links I found were offline. THank you.
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i just posted it.
mandroid717 said:
He probably was not using cloudy's ROM. Amature mistake.
cloudy link: http://oceanhost.eu/aa1f1nyg1j9o/CloudyG3_1.2.zip.html
kk baseband: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=33055
i used the 10E modem.
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Thanks for making me fall in love with my LG G3 all over again. Absolutely love Kitkat! No lag at all compared to Lollipop, battery is good and it only gets heated when I'm gaming on it. I'll stick with this ROM until a more stable Lollipop/Marshmallow release is available from LG.
Cheers :good:
Silvers91 said:
Thanks for making me fall in love with my LG G3 all over again. Absolutely love Kitkat! No lag at all compared to Lollipop, battery is good and it only gets heated when I'm gaming on it. I'll stick with this ROM until a more stable Lollipop/Marshmallow release is available from LG.
Cheers :good:
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Glad I could help. What I like most actually is I can see notifications on lockscreen again. Woohoo
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Glad I could help. What I like most actually is I can see notifications on lockscreen again. Woohoo
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Yes I love that as well!
Btw do you keep using Dalvik or did you switch to ART? Because I just switched to ART and the phone becomes kinda unusable, some apps don't wanna launch and the phone became kinda laggy. Should I just stick with Dalvik?
Silvers91 said:
Yes I love that as well!
Btw do you keep using Dalvik or did you switch to ART? Because I just switched to ART and the phone becomes kinda unusable, some apps don't wanna launch and the phone became kinda laggy. Should I just stick with Dalvik?
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I've always stuck with Dalvik just because never really noticed a difference.
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He probably was not using cloudy's ROM. Amature mistake.
cloudy link: http://oceanhost.eu/aa1f1nyg1j9o/CloudyG3_1.2.zip.html
kk baseband: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=33055
i used the 10E modem.
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I just brought my g3 yesterday it came with lollipop im on cloudy 2.5 so can i downgrade to kk by flashing cloudy 1.2 and then flashing the modem is it a zip that i flash the modem im in uk
Ismail.A said:
I just brought my g3 yesterday it came with lollipop im on cloudy 2.5 so can i downgrade to kk by flashing cloudy 1.2 and then flashing the modem is it a zip that i flash the modem im in uk
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Yes but make sure it is the right version modem. Not sure what it is for the UK. I used the international modem.
I would recommend an AOSP Lollipop build (BlissPop for example) running at 1080P. QHD makes zero difference at this screen size and running at 1080P the phone flies, not to mention a (marginally) better battery life.
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I would recommend an AOSP Lollipop build (BlissPop for example) running at 1080P. QHD makes zero difference at this screen size and running at 1080P the phone flies, not to mention a (marginally) better battery life.
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If you don't use the camera maybe this not a terrible idea. The stock Kit Kat rom is definitely faster and much much much more stable. And you can use the laser focus and full camera features. Plus the IR blaster. If you disable the stock apps you don't use, its a way better choice than the featureless ASOP roms.
hi there, im using stock rooted lollipop rom v20h, i want to try KK rom to compare but which modem is for international model ? i cannot tell which is best for me cause when i got my phone 2 weeks ago it came with lollipop.
can anyone recommend on a suitable modem pls ?
thanks.
sol
I am also planning to downgrad to Kk.
Just downgraded my d855, to kk. Cloudy 1.2, it 4.4.2 kk rom seems to run fine imso used to lollipop that it feels a bit weird. I used 10o modem which felt not so good for my device. Then put 10i modem and its great. Now im looking for a good kernel.
Ill test itforfew days and see how i feel compared to stock lollipop. 5.0
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Stick with PureNexus or update to Oreo?

I'm currently running the latest version of PureNexus and debating installing Android Oreo. Are there any huge downsides? Is it buggy, slow, etc? In other words, is it daily driver ready for someone who uses their phone all day for music, video, games, EVERYTHING and still wants to tweak the os to their needs.
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Etheralrealm said:
I'm currently running the latest version of PureNexus and debating installing Android Oreo. Are there any huge downsides? Is it buggy, slow, etc? In other words, is it daily driver ready for someone who uses their phone all day for music, video, games, EVERYTHING and still wants to tweak the os to their needs.
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Unless you're worried about the security updates, just stay on PN. PN for Oreo should be out soon as well.
That makes a lot of sense, thanks.
Etheralrealm said:
I'm currently running the latest version of PureNexus and debating installing Android Oreo. Are there any huge downsides? Is it buggy, slow, etc? In other words, is it daily driver ready for someone who uses their phone all day for music, video, games, EVERYTHING and still wants to tweak the os to their needs.
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I was on PN since I got my 6P and updated to Oreo as soon as it came out. I don't regret the decision at all. Battery life is as good or better than PN (I routinely end the day with 4+ hours of SOT and 35-40% left. Your experience may vary depending on usage), performance is wonderful, and I haven't found any major bugs yet. All of my favorite mods work (EX kernel, Pixel mod, Camera NX, WakeBlock, and a few others I'm forgetting).
The only downside is some modifications require a bit more work. For example, to resize the navigation bar and add dynamic coloring I had to extract, modify, and push framework-res.apk instead of having those options built right into the settings menu. There's no custom quick settings tiles and I can't change the number of rows/columns, but that isn't a big deal and I've learned to live without it for now.
As stated above PN based on Oreo should be out within the next month or two. Beans posted an announcement on G+ yesterday explaining that he had a family emergency that slowed down development on PN O, but he is actively working on it as much as he can.
Etheralrealm said:
I'm currently running the latest version of PureNexus and debating installing Android Oreo. Are there any huge downsides? Is it buggy, slow, etc? In other words, is it daily driver ready for someone who uses their phone all day for music, video, games, EVERYTHING and still wants to tweak the os to their needs.
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I went from PN to 8.1. Honestly, stick with PN. I used it for a couple days and I am downgrading right now. My battery life was significantly worse (on 7.1.2 I ended the day at ~40-50% battery. On 8.1 I was at ~20-30). I didn't notice anything great about Oreo and found myself missing PN.
Poebat said:
I went from PN to 8.1. Honestly, stick with PN. I used it for a couple days and I am downgrading right now. My battery life was significantly worse (on 7.1.2 I ended the day at ~40-50% battery. On 8.1 I was at ~20-30). I didn't notice anything great about Oreo and found myself missing PN.
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Maybe your battery is just getting tired I'm finding the opposite Oreo 8.1 giving me excellent results.
Exodusche said:
Maybe your battery is just getting tired I'm finding the opposite Oreo 8.1 giving me excellent results.
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Might be Xposed then. My sot dropped by 1.5hrs.
Poebat said:
Might be Xposed then. My sot dropped by 1.5hrs.
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I'm gonna go back and try Pure Nexus again now that I have a new battery I could use extra 1.5 hours.
Exodusche said:
I'm gonna go back and try Pure Nexus again now that I have a new battery I could use extra 1.5 hours.
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Good luck.
Not sure aware of this or not, but beans posted in the PN thread he's working on Oreo for the angler. So you'll soon have the best of both.
Poebat said:
I went from PN to 8.1. Honestly, stick with PN. I used it for a couple days and I am downgrading right now. My battery life was significantly worse (on 7.1.2 I ended the day at ~40-50% battery. On 8.1 I was at ~20-30). I didn't notice anything great about Oreo and found myself missing PN.
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Hey man, how did your downgrading go? I had the intention of downgrading today but somewhere messed up and now my phone is in a bootloop. What steps did you take?
Thanks!
Ritser said:
Hey man, how did your downgrading go? I had the intention of downgrading today but somewhere messed up and now my phone is in a bootloop. What steps did you take?
Thanks!
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I had that issue too. Spent waaaayyy to long trying to figure it out. I think 8.1 has a different encryption method. You need to wipe the phone completely and then do a nandroid restore (or flash PN)
Poebat said:
I had that issue too. Spent waaaayyy to long trying to figure it out. I think 8.1 has a different encryption method. You need to wipe the phone completely and then do a nandroid restore (or flash PN)
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Don't mean to sound like a complete noob, but how did you go on about wiping the phone completely? I've now tried so many things, reflashing TWRP, reinstalling stock firmwares, using Wug's Nexus Rooting kit, ... I can acces fastboot, what do I need to do to be able to reinstall TWRP? Because when I try it right now, I can't acces it. It goes back into the boot loop.
Cheers
Ritser said:
Don't mean to sound like a complete noob, but how did you go on about wiping the phone completely? I've now tried so many things, reflashing TWRP, reinstalling stock firmwares, using Wug's Nexus Rooting kit, ... I can acces fastboot, what do I need to do to be able to reinstall TWRP? Because when I try it right now, I can't acces it. It goes back into the boot loop.
Cheers
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In TWRP, format /Data and the internal storage. I also formatted /system just to be safe.

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