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Nexus 7 running super slow.. Think a clean 5.0 may help?

Have had my n7 since they came out (32g WiFi) and love it.. Lately she's been running real slow. (Official cm11).. If I do a full FULL wipe and drop an official 5.0.0 image on it, think that will help get some performance back? I know the internal memory type is a big limitation, any way to format it and maybe clean or speed it up?
(I've done the usual, wrote and reflash, open space, stop apps at startup, speed up tricks...)
Thanks..
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rhcreed said:
Have had my n7 since they came out (32g WiFi) and love it.. Lately she's been running real slow. (Official cm11).. If I do a full FULL wipe and drop an official 5.0.0 image on it, think that will help get some performance back? I know the internal memory type is a big limitation, any way to format it and maybe clean or speed it up?
(I've done the usual, wrote and reflash, open space, stop apps at startup, speed up tricks...)
Thanks..
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A full wipe would more than likely help right now. Although with 5.0 a few weeks away, its best to wait until then. You could flash the official 5.0 factory images once they're up, or someone's bound to make a stock rooted 5.0 ROM also.
If you can't wait you could try experimenting with the f2fs formatting, there's a how to thread and a good selection of compatible ROMs available. In haven't tried it personally but most users seem to notice significant improvements on their N7.

I would suggest to install a diagnostic app like diagnosis by darken and read a report of how apps eat your cpu/ram instead of going the process of backuping and formating.
From my experience apps which slow a device
Facebook
Viber
WhatsApp
And most of the messaging apps.

A clean install of any Android version would help. ?

I would suggest using a cleaning tool like SD Maid by Darken and formatting your Cache/Dalvik Cache.
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Don't install 5.0 it made things worse then in 4.4

mrsofa said:
Don't install 5.0 it made things worse then in 4.4
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I installed 5.0 on my N7 2012 and it is crazy fast! As soon as I installed Facebook the whole thing froze up. Systemui crashed, everything crashed. Finally managed to get FB uninsulated (took 20 minutes) and it runs smooth again. Not sure what the hell FB app did, but it was pretty crazy. I tried it again and same thing.
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Schaweet said:
I installed 5.0 on my N7 2012 and it is crazy fast! As soon as I installed Facebook the whole thing froze up. Systemui crashed, everything crashed. Finally managed to get FB uninsulated (took 20 minutes) and it runs smooth again. Not sure what the hell FB app did, but it was pretty crazy. I tried it again and same thing.
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Before you installed android 5.0 your nexus 7 2012 was very laggy and choppy?

antimo84c said:
Before you installed android 5.0 your nexus 7 2012 was very laggy and choppy?
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Yes, it was very laggy on 4.4.4.
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Schaweet said:
Yes, it was very laggy on 4.4.4.
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My n7 2012 3g is almost unusable. I hope lollipop will solve bug and lag

antimo84c said:
My n7 2012 3g is almost unusable. I hope lollipop will solve bug and lag
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My wifi model was the same way. 5.0 fixes it. Just don't install FB beta.
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Schaweet said:
I installed 5.0 on my N7 2012 and it is crazy fast! As soon as I installed Facebook the whole thing froze up. Systemui crashed, everything crashed. Finally managed to get FB uninsulated (took 20 minutes) and it runs smooth again. Not sure what the hell FB app did, but it was pretty crazy. I tried it again and same thing.
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I recommend the Facebook app below, its based on the browser version and it a hundred times lighter than the official app. Doesn't have access to the permissions (basically everything) that the official fb app has either which is better.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2864561

Schaweet said:
My wifi model was the same way. 5.0 fixes it. Just don't install FB beta.
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Unsubscribed from fb beta right now because it was making problem on my htc one aswell... Fixed problems on the HTC, but the nexus...still no go. Sometimes it works...normally (my HTC is faster, but is not horribly slower) but then I looses it all and starts lagging so badly I put it down and dont use it for 2hours, and then it's okay again...

mrsofa said:
Unsubscribed from fb beta right now because it was making problem on my htc one aswell... Fixed problems on the HTC, but the nexus...still no go. Sometimes it works...normally (my HTC is faster, but is not horribly slower) but then I looses it all and starts lagging so badly I put it down and dont use it for 2hours, and then it's okay again...
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Yeah same thing here. What's crazy is I installed Friendcaster instead of the stock FB app and the same thing happened. Makes me think it's not the app and instead something with FB server side not liking LP.
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Same problems here. I have hangups amounting to tens of seconds doing what used to be otherwise instantaneous actions when the tablet was new.
The question; is this performance degradation related to component aging or software-related? Our N7s are more or less out of 1yr warranty now and I am wondering whether there will be any traction with ASUS about a flaw which was present at purchase? Components crap out of the door outlasts a claim on fault developments in the wild.

Prostheta said:
Same problems here. I have hangups amounting to tens of seconds doing what used to be otherwise instantaneous actions when the tablet was new.
The question; is this performance degradation related to component aging or software-related? Our N7s are more or less out of 1yr warranty now and I am wondering whether there will be any traction with ASUS about a flaw which was present at purchase? Components crap out of the door outlasts a claim on fault developments in the wild.
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2 things. A bloated system and cache will slow things down. And for me... My N7 seems slower every time I upgrade my phone. Lol
Wipe it clean and start again with fresh stock install. ?
Hardware doesn't slow down. It works, or doesn't work... Or can work intermittently if it's damaged. But not just slower.

Darth said:
2 things. A bloated system and cache will slow things down. And for me... My N7 seems slower every time I upgrade my phone. Lol
Wipe it clean and start again with fresh stock install. ?
Hardware doesn't slow down. It works, or doesn't work... Or can work intermittently if it's damaged. But not just slower.
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Everyone in this thread is saying that 5.0 and 4.4.4 fresh install are slow for them, why is everyone saying do a fresh stock install?
I have a 2 day stock install and this works slower then my friends samsung ace.
p.s. i uninstalled fb, and messenger... still slow.

mrsofa said:
Everyone in this thread is saying that 5.0 and 4.4.4 fresh install are slow for them, why is everyone saying do a fresh stock install?
I have a 2 day stock install and this works slower then my friends samsung ace.
p.s. i uninstalled fb, and messenger... still slow.
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Then go to the last version that was fast? Or a good custom rom?
My point was and is... Hardware doesn't slow down. It may break or become erratic.. But not slower.
So the issue is on the software side. ?
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I never liked kit Kat either on my N7...its still running stock, rooted 4.2.2. Smooth and snappy. ?

How does google even thing about putting out something that's so slow?
Are they desperately wanting us to switch to the nexus 9?
This is my last tablet I ever bought.

So anyone has 5.0.2 allready?
I have it. I see no difference. The tab freezes for about a minute sometimes when using chrome. Dolphin is even worse. So most of the time i get these freeze ups and the whole tablet becomes unresponsive.
Anyone else?

[GUIDE] [HOW TO] Solve Random Shutdown/ Reboot Problem

People love Nexus devices for the latest version of Android it gets. It's the best device to get updated with the latest version and usually cheaper than other devices in the market with same specification though Nexus 6 is bit exceptional with a bit higher price tag. Latest Android version is always exciting to us but with latest Android version, comes Latest Bugs too May be I became sarcastic, though it's true. Android Lollipop is not an exceptional to come with some bugs. One of the major bug of Lollipop is the RAM leaking issue. People has faced some major RAM leaking issue on their Nexus 5 and now Nexus 6 is also facing it. For Nexus 6 it's a major issue because it's causing Nexus 6 to force reboot and mainly force shutdown. This issue has been marked as Complete on Google Forum by a Google Employee. Jump to the first page to see it and browse through all pages to see that so many people are facing the same issue so there is no need to be panic. You can expect a fix for it as it has been marked Completed by a Google Employee. But for now we need a solution for it. ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT IT'S NOT A HARDWARE BASED PROBLEM, IT'S THE PROBLEM OF THE STOCK KERNEL. SO DON'T GET PANICKED AND REPLACE YOU DEVICE.
If you want to get rid of this problem and want to stay in stock firmware then follow the following steps:
A> Non-Rooted Device:
1. Close all apps before doing heavy tasks. You may see "System" as a recent task, don't be panic, clear it. It may appear sometimes. Even some apps which you've not opened, they may show in recent apps.
2. Don't run some specific games like NOVA3. It'll not let you go forward from the first cut-scene. It'll force shut down the device. [Tested by me]
3. Do reboot your device once in an interval of 5-6 days. 3-4 days are recommended. If you notice the RAM usage daily, you can notice that the RAM usage by System/Settings starts increasing after 2 days of usage without any reboot.
B> Rooted:
If you're rooted, you're good to go for a permanent solution.
1. If you don't want to switch to any Custom ROM, then flash a Custom Kernel like Franco Kernel or ElementalX . It'll help you to get rid of the random reboot/ force shut down.
2. Flash Custom ROMs. There are plenty of custom ROMs available for Nexus 6 which are mostly based on 5.0.2 and doesn't cause problems like this. Giving a small list of the ROMs which are being used by most of the Nexus 6 users
Dirty Unicorns
Official SlimLP Alpha
Euphoria-OS
LiquidSmooth
N6 Nocturnal Limited Edition
If it helps, please do consider pressing the "Thanks" button

Actually, the memory leak is NOT a kernel problem. The reason why it affects *ALL* Nexus devices running 5.0.x is that it is actually a problem in frameworks.
Specifically... frameworks/base/services/core/java/com/android/server/display/ColorFade.java

Neither one of these are solutions and I wouldn't even call them workarounds either

doitright said:
Actually, the memory leak is NOT a kernel problem. The reason why it affects *ALL* Nexus devices running 5.0.x is that it is actually a problem in frameworks.
Specifically... frameworks/base/services/core/java/com/android/server/display/ColorFade.java
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Source?

crachel said:
Neither one of these are solutions and I wouldn't even call them workarounds either
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Actually I got benefited with these solutions. Not only me but also many other Nexus 6 users That's why shared

SAW_JOK3R said:
Source?
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https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=79729#c239
I think the actual patch they are referring to is here;
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=79729#c177
Incorporated into community roms as;
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/andr...mmit/d25b891dccd223bb00f45e27062e5391a55be8ff

doitright said:
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=79729#c239
I think the actual patch they are referring to is here;
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=79729#c177
Incorporated into community roms as;
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/andr...mmit/d25b891dccd223bb00f45e27062e5391a55be8ff
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Thanks Though I think Nexus 6 is getting effected differently as it's going to either force reboot or force shutdown where as hammerhead is facing only high RAM usage.

SAW_JOK3R said:
Thanks Though I think Nexus 6 is getting effected differently as it's going to either force reboot or force shutdown where as hammerhead is facing only high RAM usage.
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All depends on what triggers are set and how bad it gets

Nice post

Teh Ashish said:
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Thanks

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one seeing these problems. Where's our 5.0.2 to fix it? Happens to me almost once a day now.

mattlgroff said:
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one seeing these problems. Where's our 5.0.2 to fix it? Happens to me almost once a day now.
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What are you running on it? I'm currently at a *week* of uptime, and no problems noticed at all.

What are people doing to get a random Shutdown/Reboot?
Had mine for a month and it never Shutdown/Reboot on me.
I read that there maybe and update in the near future?

mattlgroff said:
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one seeing these problems. Where's our 5.0.2 to fix it? Happens to me almost once a day now.
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May be Google is planning for a direct jump to 5.1 with all major bug fix

AstroDigital said:
What are people doing to get a random Shutdown/Reboot?
Had mine for a month and it never Shutdown/Reboot on me.
I read that there maybe and update in the near future?
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It's happening many of the devices. As it's evident that many other major issues like screen burn-in, problem in speakers etc are not present to every devices, this issue is not an exceptional It seems that Google is planning for 5.1 update for Nexus 6

doitright said:
What are you running on it? I'm currently at a *week* of uptime, and no problems noticed at all.
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Completely stock unrooted, never unlocked on 5.0.1.
I'm also using a stock Moto 360.
Therfreeze happens when it wants to, when I'm not using the phone. I don't usually notice until I next check my phone and the lock button doesn't unlock my phone, then I look at my Moto 360 and see that its become disconnected.

mattlgroff said:
Completely stock unrooted, never unlocked on 5.0.1.
I'm also using a stock Moto 360.
Therfreeze happens when it wants to, when I'm not using the phone. I don't usually notice until I next check my phone and the lock button doesn't unlock my phone, then I look at my Moto 360 and see that its become disconnected.
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Could be related to the watch or some other software you're running. Or an encryption related leak. Like I said, mine's been rock solid. Straight up factory except for non-encrypt and root.
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It's happening many of the devices. As it's evident that many other major issues like screen burn-in, problem in speakers etc are not present to every devices, this issue is not an exceptional It seems that Google is planning for 5.1 update for Nexus 6
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Lets hope for hwcrypto....

doitright said:
Could be related to the watch or some other software you're running. Or an encryption related leak. Like I said, mine's been rock solid. Straight up factory except for non-encrypt and root.
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Lets hope for hwcrypto....
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I think encryption has nothing to do with the random reboots And if you're considering moto 360's apps for this, then I should say, No

SAW_JOK3R said:
I think encryption has nothing to do with the random reboots
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On what do you judge that? Software crypto is a very heavy memory user. From what I've heard, the reboots seem to be related to memory pressure.
And if you're considering moto 360's apps for this, then I should say, No
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"Android wear" has very serious tentacles that run through frameworks and gapps. Applications themselves COULD NOT be the problem since Android will just kill them when the memory hit becomes too big, but the frameworks tentacles are another story altogether.
In any case, my point about hwcrypto was more about performance improvements from AOSP 5.1 rather than random reboots.

doitright said:
On what do you judge that? Software crypto is a very heavy memory user. From what I've heard, the reboots seem to be related to memory pressure.
"Android wear" has very serious tentacles that run through frameworks and gapps. Applications themselves COULD NOT be the problem since Android will just kill them when the memory hit becomes too big, but the frameworks tentacles are another story altogether.
In any case, my point about hwcrypto was more about performance improvements from AOSP 5.1 rather than random reboots.
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There is RAM leaking but I've noticed today that when I went to see the RAM usage after booting up from a force shutdown, then there was 1.8GB of free RAM and then I scrolled a little bit to see which apps are occupying the space. Then guess what? Bam, again a force shut down

XT1095 (Pure Edition) future updates

Supposedly the Pure Edition of the Moto X gets the updates earlier, and we're seeing other versions of the Moto X gets 5.0.2 and we're still in 5.0. Does anybody have some news on a new update? A soak test of 5.1 would be awesome now.
I started this thread because there's no other thread of this particular situation.
Sorry for my english.

I'm still on 4.4.4 be patient

I'm also on 5.0 isnt 5.1 already out?

I think that they are waiting for 5.1 release as it will come in March.

-iNSiGhT- said:
I think that they are waiting for 5.1 release as it will come in March.
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I hope so! Maybe we can use this thread to comment this!

I keep getting notifications about the lollipop update(I'm on 4.4.4) on my phone I got a few days ago, going to root it in the next couple of days so I can stop the notifications.
I'm not touching lollipop until the problems are sorted out plus I hate the WiFi and signal icons in lollipop.

GTCC said:
I keep getting notifications about the lollipop update(I'm on 4.4.4) on my phone I got a few days ago, going to root it in the next couple of days so I can stop the notifications.
I'm not touching lollipop until the problems are sorted out plus I hate the WiFi and signal icons in lollipop.
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I like the new icons, but the RAM management it's getting kind of annoying.

GTCC said:
I keep getting notifications about the lollipop update(I'm on 4.4.4) on my phone I got a few days ago, going to root it in the next couple of days so I can stop the notifications.
I'm not touching lollipop until the problems are sorted out plus I hate the WiFi and signal icons in lollipop.
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Just go disable Motorola OTA under settings
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GTCC said:
I keep getting notifications about the lollipop update(I'm on 4.4.4) on my phone I got a few days ago, going to root it in the next couple of days so I can stop the notifications.
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Just force stop Moto OTA in apps. Gets rid of that notification until you reboot the device.
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The RAM management it's getting kind of annoying.
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I agree. That and the horrible battery life associated with the way Lollipop currently is.

Uhhhhh, problems with 5.0? I don't get it. I've been running 5.0 since I got this thing, 2 weeks now, and its been amazing. Coming from a 2013 X, this thing flies. No ram issues that I have seen. Battery life, same as 2013 X for me, actually a little better with over 10hrs on Bluetooth headset. But then I was running Xposed so that might have caused some issues with my Old X.

overthatscreen said:
Uhhhhh, problems with 5.0? I don't get it. I've been running 5.0 since I got this thing, 2 weeks now, and its been amazing. Coming from a 2013 X, this thing flies. No ram issues that I have seen. Battery life, same as 2013 X for me, actually a little better with over 10hrs on Bluetooth headset. But then I was running Xposed so that might have caused some issues with my Old X.
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The battery life could be better. The RAM management causes that some apps -like the launcher- keeps closing while you're using other apps.

The battery life is about what I expected for a screen the size it is with such a small battery, a decent improvement over my smaller N5 with same size battery, albeit over a year old. As for memory management, I had occasional launcher redraws and apps not staying in memory when when N5 updated to lollipop, but have not experienced this at all on my Moto X. I also essentially started fresh on 5.0, powered my moto x up, went through setup, updated immediately to lollipop, and went ahead and did a factory reset. So maybe the fact my phone wasn't used on KitKat at all before updating saved me some problems, don't know. All I know is I don't have memory issues, had my phone a little over 2 weeks now, and today was the first reboot (to apply a screen protector) I've done since day 1.
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Moto X 2014 & Lollipop 5.0
95Z28 said:
The battery life is about what I expected for a screen the size it is with such a small battery, a decent improvement over my smaller N5 with same size battery, albeit over a year old. As for memory management, I had occasional launcher redraws and apps not staying in memory when when N5 updated to lollipop, but have not experienced this at all on my Moto X. I also essentially started fresh on 5.0, powered my moto x up, went through setup, updated immediately to lollipop, and went ahead and did a factory reset. So maybe the fact my phone wasn't used on KitKat at all before updating saved me some problems, don't know. All I know is I don't have memory issues, had my phone a little over 2 weeks now, and today was the first reboot (to apply a screen protector) I've done since day 1.
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I agree with you, Battery life is ok and memory management also is ok, I also used my phone with Lollipop directly.
Battery performance was enhanced after checking which apps caused high battery drain and disabled it.

M3drvr said:
Just force stop Moto OTA in apps. Gets rid of that notification until you reboot the device.
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Thanks for the tip, I don't reboot my phone very often so it is perfect for me.
Next thing for me is to unlock the bootloader and root for exposed, really liking this phone more every day although I have had it less than a week yet.

The first update released was 5.0 for pure edition. Then Motorola's developers went to work on bringing the update to other variants, and by that time 5.0.1 and 5.0.2 came out. Now that they're working on the xt1095 again, they'll be pushing the 5.1 update.
Basically, they're not going to halt all progress on bringing other updates just to keep pure edition on the cutting edge. It got the first spot on line, but once they finalized its 5.0 release it had to wait for its next turn in line. Also, it doesn't make sense to release a 5.0 update for the others when 5.0.1 exists just to make pure edition owners feel special about being the most up to date.
Full disclosure: I have the pure edition.

Skillinator said:
The first update released was 5.0 for pure edition. Then Motorola's developers went to work on bringing the update to other variants, and by that time 5.0.1 and 5.0.2 came out. Now that they're working on the xt1095 again, they'll be pushing the 5.1 update.
Basically, they're not going to halt all progress on bringing other updates just to keep pure edition on the cutting edge. It got the first spot on line, but once they finalized its 5.0 release it had to wait for its next turn in line. Also, it doesn't make sense to release a 5.0 update for the others when 5.0.1 exists just to make pure edition owners feel special about being the most up to date.
Full disclosure: I have the pure edition.
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What's the source of that info?

95Z28 said:
The battery life is about what I expected for a screen the size it is with such a small battery, a decent improvement over my smaller N5 with same size battery, albeit over a year old. As for memory management, I had occasional launcher redraws and apps not staying in memory when when N5 updated to lollipop, but have not experienced this at all on my Moto X. I also essentially started fresh on 5.0, powered my moto x up, went through setup, updated immediately to lollipop, and went ahead and did a factory reset. So maybe the fact my phone wasn't used on KitKat at all before updating saved me some problems, don't know. All I know is I don't have memory issues, had my phone a little over 2 weeks now, and today was the first reboot (to apply a screen protector) I've done since day 1.
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RAM issue is a major problem! This phone won't allow you to drop below 450MB free of RAM i've noticed since going to lollipop. Quite an issue causing constant reloading of apps. the opposite really of whats supposed to happen with android. Its really making the CPU work a lot harder more often to completely reopen apps. With KitKat, never had this issue. Everything stayed in RAM and used no where near this amount actually, i typically had 750-800 free., but even if i dropped to 200 free it wasn't exiting apps and causing everything to reload. And its not like i've installed any new apps since.
Lets not even get me started on battery life as thats horrendous since going to lollipop.

GTCC said:
Thanks for the tip, I don't reboot my phone very often so it is perfect for me.
Next thing for me is to unlock the bootloader and root for exposed, really liking this phone more every day although I have had it less than a week yet.
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Just a heads up, when you unlock the bootloader it will wipe your phone, so backup whatever you can before doing it.
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Link_proxXP said:
What's the source of that info?
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I mean, I don't have a source, I figured that's what makes sense. It would be unreasonable to expect Motorola to not update ANYTHING until the Pure Edition is up to date, and it also doesn't make sense for them to push an update that's outdated on release.
Motorola promised "fast" updates for the Pure Edition but it's not the only job their developers have. It was indeed the first they updated, but they also have to update the rest of their lineup, and they can't leave everyone on KitKat while continuing to give exclusive updates to the xt1095.

Considering how small of changes they'd have to do for all the other devices, I really don't think it's unreasonable to expect the pure edition to always get the updates first though and then the others. Really, you can install the pure editions software on other devices without issues other than the radio.

5.1.1 Existence has been leaked, what do we want?

So 5.1.1 was leaked on a Google Dev page today (Source)
What would we want to see in this Lollipop update for the N6 seeming we know nothing about whats coming?
Me personally? A bit better battery life (I think the second .1 indicates new kernel?) and to clean up some of the bugs.

exekias said:
So 5.1.1 was leaked on a Google Dev page today (Source)
What would we want to see in this Lollipop update for the N6 seeming we know nothing about whats coming?
Me personally? A bit better battery life (I think the second .1 indicates new kernel?) and to clean up some of the bugs.
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probably nothing beneficial for the N6... looks like it's only going to be for the N7 and N9... much like the 5.0.2 release was never "official" for the N6.

If its truly LMY47S, then it is not really 5.1.1.
That has the same build date code as 5.1.

I want faster responding sensors. Auto dimming, proximity sensor for phone calls sped up. Damn thing takes forever! As does auto rotate.

Want a rocketship for blasting off to Mars! Seems my Nexus6 has about everything else!

I'd like my battery to last over 9000 minutes of screen on time.

Three wishes, and none of them for an iPhone, M9, or S6.

Better battery optimization, improved camera and radio, and ability to switch to a dark Material theme.

Performance improvement for Camera, Dialer and occasional dropped frames in animations.

I would like google to unlock the notification led xD
Faster booting up and more options when shutting down.
Screen resolution options.
That's it for now, only had it for 2 days. Still learning about lollipop, I came from an galaxy s3.

Sexy wallpaper

- Notification lights back by default (non-rooted)
- (Better) hardware encryption for faster boot-up

Fix the carkit a2dp crashing when connected to a Bluetooth low energy device. I should not have to put my moto 360 in airplane mode every time I drive my car...
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clear all recent apps button
double tap screen on and off like the lg g3

kidhudi said:
clear all recent apps button
double tap screen on and off like the lg g3
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To you and others in this thread - You're on XDA and many of the feature requests are available in most custom ROMs. "I don't run rooted ROMs" or "I'd like those features to be in stock ROM" will probably be your reply, to which I will say, why are you commenting on a developer / Android customization forum?

kidhudi said:
clear all recent apps button
double tap screen on and off like the lg g3
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Why would Google implement something that is unnecessary and could cause problems? There hasn't been any need to close apps for quite a few iterations of android (actually an understatement)

With all these 'new' versions I find it interesting that N7 seems to be the problem child they can't get right.

I just want WiFi calling
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With all these 'new' versions I find it interesting that N7 seems to be the problem child they can't get right.
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Well it's using a tegra chip. All other nexus are using Qualcomm chips. Minus the 9 which is also late to the party.

The N6 is already a great device. What would make it stand above the rest is for it to be natively as smooth and lag free as the N5 is and to add some minor battery life improvements.

Getting frustrated with poor performance

I see others are having issues with the phone being sluggish and freezing - requiring a forced restart. I've had these issues since day one, but the phone is just so damn beautiful to stop using.
I've tried everything I have seen on this site including factory resets and manually adding apps back in (in lieu of restoring from Google). Still happens.
I've been emailing back and forth with Essential customer service, and while they're responsive, I'm getting frustrated.
They asked me to use it in Safe Mode for a couple days, and I had no issues. So they concluded it's an app causing the problem. So they want me to do another factory reset, and then add apps back one at a time for a few days to see if I can pinpoint which app(s) are causing the issue. I have 100+ apps on the phone - this will take months to do!
My comment to them (that they didn't appreciate) is that if they want to compete with the flagship phones of other OEM's the phone should be able to handle any app you you throw at is, and I have no issues with my ZTE Axon 7 running the exact same apps.
Am I off base here? Any other suggestions?

fungo45 said:
I see others are having issues with the phone being sluggish and freezing - requiring a forced restart. I've had these issues since say one, but the phone is just so damn beautiful to stop using.
I've tried everything I have seen on this site including factory resets and manually adding apps back in (in lieu of restoring from Google). Still happens.
I've been emailing back and forth with Essential customer service, and while they're responsive, I'm getting frustrated.
They asked me to use it in Safe Mode for a couple days, and I had no issues. So they concluded it's an app causing the problem. So they want me to do another factory reset, and then add apps back one at a time for a few days to see if I can pinpoint which app(s) are causing the issue. I have 100+ apps on the phone - this will take months to do!
My comment to them (that they didn't appreciate) is that if they want to compete with the flagship phones of other OEM's the phone should be able to handle any app you you throw at is, and I have no issues with my ZTE Axon 7 running the exact same apps.
Am I off base here? Any other suggestions?
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You are off base.
There are apps that can cause issues and no manufacturer can guarantee the performance of their device with any and all apps in the PlayStore.
There are apps that have memory leaks, wake events, etc. and there is no way for them to contain any/all errant apps, nor should they.
I suggest Greenify to look at app behavior and see what isn't sleeping and taking resources.
You can also look at the battery stats and see what app is burning battery.
Social media apps are typically bad.
Things like Pet Rescue and Candy Crush can also cause issues.
Make sure you limit which apps can do notifications and limit those to SMS and email apps.
Good luck.

I would highly recommend testing the Oreo 8.1 beta. HUGE performance improvement

I've been running N 7.1.1 since I got the phone 2 weeks ago and the performance has been stellar, scrolling is smooth and fast, no freezes at all, after reading the issues with 8.1 beta (battery drain, wifi etc.) I'm in no rush to upgrade....

I am on 7.1.1, came here after searching google seeing if they'll ever do this android Oreo Update. I have some phantom touches on my touchscreen. Thank god this phone was cheap. That S9 keeps looking better and better.

tech_head said:
You are off base.
There are apps that can cause issues and no manufacturer can guarantee the performance of their device with any and all apps in the PlayStore.
There are apps that have memory leaks, wake events, etc. and there is no way for them to contain any/all errant apps, nor should they.
I suggest Greenify to look at app behavior and see what isn't sleeping and taking resources.
You can also look at the battery stats and see what app is burning battery.
Social media apps are typically bad.
Things like Pet Rescue and Candy Crush can also cause issues.
Make sure you limit which apps can do notifications and limit those to SMS and email apps.
Good luck.
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Thanks for your honesty. I'm giving greenify a shot though I still think a phone like this should not need something like this.
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InfDaMarvel said:
I am on 7.1.1, came here after searching google seeing if they'll ever do this android Oreo Update. I have some phantom touches on my touchscreen. Thank god this phone was cheap. That S9 keeps looking better and better.
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yes the Samsung will be issue free? dream on! no phone is issue free. I really like the essential and they are right you have to locate the bad app yourself.
because the open structure of android. app builders can really destroy the user experience on your phone.
if you don't want that? buy an iPhone.
for sure the app will destroy the performance of an s9 as well!

herwarth said:
yes the Samsung will be issue free? dream on! no phone is issue free. I really like the essential and they are right you have to locate the bad app yourself.
because the open structure of android. app builders can really destroy the user experience on your phone.
if you don't want that? buy an iPhone.
for sure the app will destroy the performance of an s9 as well!
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The touchscreen issue is related to hardware from what I can see and have read. Performance issues for me are related to memory management and the fact that I use a lot of memory hogging applications. Don't get me wrong just because your experience has been stellar the. I think it's a cool phone. Just not good enough for me to continue using it for another year. The Samsung...I specifically said the S9 because of extra ram and its top of the line screen. Which you can deny if you want but it's true. Best in class screen. They even make the iPhones screen. This phone was cheap so it was worth it for me because I enjoy tech regardless of the flaws. Just need that official oreo update!

InfDaMarvel said:
The touchscreen issue is related to hardware from what I can see and have read. Performance issues for me are related to memory management and the fact that I use a lot of memory hogging applications. Don't get me wrong just because your experience has been stellar the. I think it's a cool phone. Just not good enough for me to continue using it for another year. The Samsung...I specifically said the S9 because of extra ram and its top of the line screen. Which you can deny if you want but it's true. Best in class screen. They even make the iPhones screen. This phone was cheap so it was worth it for me because I enjoy tech regardless of the flaws. Just need that official oreo update!
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S9 is also 4 Gig RAM just like our PH-1, no extra RAM...

Jostian said:
S9 is also 4 Gig RAM just like our PH-1, no extra RAM...
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S9+ to be exact

InfDaMarvel said:
S9+ to be exact
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Yip S9+
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look I had the S8 and it was stellar, but was looking for some cash so sold my S8 for $620 and bought the PH-1 for $450, and I'm really impressed so far, ok sure I dont to rocket science etc on the phone so I'm a pretty light user, but on 7.1.1 its been superb since day 1, smooth, snappy and better battery than the S8.

Agreed with all above. Apps are the issue for any phone. I have a zoo of different makes & models. to compare. Social bs apps are the worst. Even google's own are bad enough. Just do a quick search on ""worst apps for draining battery" and start cleaning your phone.
PH-1 Oreo 8.1 power drain is almost nothing comparing to the rest of the 'stable' world. If you don't like to experiment, stay on stable 7.1 until 8.1 is released.

fungo45 said:
Thanks for your honesty. I'm giving greenify a shot though I still think a phone like this should not need something like this.
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Started using Greenify, but to work as intended, it requires you to set it as a Device Admin. When doing this, it disables the fingerprint sensor.

alkanaft said:
Agreed with all above. Apps are the issue for any phone. I have a zoo of different makes & models. to compare. Social bs apps are the worst. Even google's own are bad enough. Just do a quick search on ""worst apps for draining battery" and start cleaning your phone.
PH-1 Oreo 8.1 power drain is almost nothing comparing to the rest of the 'stable' world. If you don't like to experiment, stay on stable 7.1 until 8.1 is released.
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Yes, am in no rush to go to Oreo as 7.1.1 is so solid for me
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why not wait for the oneplus 6? all oneplus phones have tons of memory?

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I would highly recommend testing the Oreo 8.1 beta. HUGE performance improvement
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Ditto here.My 7.1.1 was acting up.Oreo has been butter.Some nice tweaks built in as well.Pic in Pic is cool and useful.As is the floating dialer.

herwarth said:
why not wait for the oneplus 6? all oneplus phones have tons of memory?
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I'd say that RAM is not an issue here. The software causes phone performance to degrade. 8.1 works fine for me. Hardware itself in PH-1 is awesome. And price tag beats OnePlus and many others. ??

So far, the Oreo OTA update has been great. No issues like I had on Nougat. Hope this remains.