People love Nexus devices for the latest version of Android it gets. It's the best device to get updated with the latest version and usually cheaper than other devices in the market with same specification though Nexus 6 is bit exceptional with a bit higher price tag. Latest Android version is always exciting to us but with latest Android version, comes Latest Bugs too May be I became sarcastic, though it's true. Android Lollipop is not an exceptional to come with some bugs. One of the major bug of Lollipop is the RAM leaking issue. People has faced some major RAM leaking issue on their Nexus 5 and now Nexus 6 is also facing it. For Nexus 6 it's a major issue because it's causing Nexus 6 to force reboot and mainly force shutdown. This issue has been marked as Complete on Google Forum by a Google Employee. Jump to the first page to see it and browse through all pages to see that so many people are facing the same issue so there is no need to be panic. You can expect a fix for it as it has been marked Completed by a Google Employee. But for now we need a solution for it. ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT IT'S NOT A HARDWARE BASED PROBLEM, IT'S THE PROBLEM OF THE STOCK KERNEL. SO DON'T GET PANICKED AND REPLACE YOU DEVICE.
If you want to get rid of this problem and want to stay in stock firmware then follow the following steps:
A> Non-Rooted Device:
1. Close all apps before doing heavy tasks. You may see "System" as a recent task, don't be panic, clear it. It may appear sometimes. Even some apps which you've not opened, they may show in recent apps.
2. Don't run some specific games like NOVA3. It'll not let you go forward from the first cut-scene. It'll force shut down the device. [Tested by me]
3. Do reboot your device once in an interval of 5-6 days. 3-4 days are recommended. If you notice the RAM usage daily, you can notice that the RAM usage by System/Settings starts increasing after 2 days of usage without any reboot.
B> Rooted:
If you're rooted, you're good to go for a permanent solution.
1. If you don't want to switch to any Custom ROM, then flash a Custom Kernel like Franco Kernel or ElementalX . It'll help you to get rid of the random reboot/ force shut down.
2. Flash Custom ROMs. There are plenty of custom ROMs available for Nexus 6 which are mostly based on 5.0.2 and doesn't cause problems like this. Giving a small list of the ROMs which are being used by most of the Nexus 6 users
Dirty Unicorns
Official SlimLP Alpha
Euphoria-OS
LiquidSmooth
N6 Nocturnal Limited Edition
If it helps, please do consider pressing the "Thanks" button
Actually, the memory leak is NOT a kernel problem. The reason why it affects *ALL* Nexus devices running 5.0.x is that it is actually a problem in frameworks.
Specifically... frameworks/base/services/core/java/com/android/server/display/ColorFade.java
Neither one of these are solutions and I wouldn't even call them workarounds either
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Actually, the memory leak is NOT a kernel problem. The reason why it affects *ALL* Nexus devices running 5.0.x is that it is actually a problem in frameworks.
Specifically... frameworks/base/services/core/java/com/android/server/display/ColorFade.java
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Source?
crachel said:
Neither one of these are solutions and I wouldn't even call them workarounds either
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Actually I got benefited with these solutions. Not only me but also many other Nexus 6 users That's why shared
SAW_JOK3R said:
Source?
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https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=79729#c239
I think the actual patch they are referring to is here;
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=79729#c177
Incorporated into community roms as;
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/andr...mmit/d25b891dccd223bb00f45e27062e5391a55be8ff
doitright said:
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=79729#c239
I think the actual patch they are referring to is here;
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=79729#c177
Incorporated into community roms as;
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/andr...mmit/d25b891dccd223bb00f45e27062e5391a55be8ff
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Thanks Though I think Nexus 6 is getting effected differently as it's going to either force reboot or force shutdown where as hammerhead is facing only high RAM usage.
SAW_JOK3R said:
Thanks Though I think Nexus 6 is getting effected differently as it's going to either force reboot or force shutdown where as hammerhead is facing only high RAM usage.
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All depends on what triggers are set and how bad it gets
Nice post
Teh Ashish said:
Nice post
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Thanks
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one seeing these problems. Where's our 5.0.2 to fix it? Happens to me almost once a day now.
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I'm glad to see I'm not the only one seeing these problems. Where's our 5.0.2 to fix it? Happens to me almost once a day now.
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What are you running on it? I'm currently at a *week* of uptime, and no problems noticed at all.
What are people doing to get a random Shutdown/Reboot?
Had mine for a month and it never Shutdown/Reboot on me.
I read that there maybe and update in the near future?
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I'm glad to see I'm not the only one seeing these problems. Where's our 5.0.2 to fix it? Happens to me almost once a day now.
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May be Google is planning for a direct jump to 5.1 with all major bug fix
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What are people doing to get a random Shutdown/Reboot?
Had mine for a month and it never Shutdown/Reboot on me.
I read that there maybe and update in the near future?
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It's happening many of the devices. As it's evident that many other major issues like screen burn-in, problem in speakers etc are not present to every devices, this issue is not an exceptional It seems that Google is planning for 5.1 update for Nexus 6
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What are you running on it? I'm currently at a *week* of uptime, and no problems noticed at all.
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Completely stock unrooted, never unlocked on 5.0.1.
I'm also using a stock Moto 360.
Therfreeze happens when it wants to, when I'm not using the phone. I don't usually notice until I next check my phone and the lock button doesn't unlock my phone, then I look at my Moto 360 and see that its become disconnected.
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Completely stock unrooted, never unlocked on 5.0.1.
I'm also using a stock Moto 360.
Therfreeze happens when it wants to, when I'm not using the phone. I don't usually notice until I next check my phone and the lock button doesn't unlock my phone, then I look at my Moto 360 and see that its become disconnected.
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Could be related to the watch or some other software you're running. Or an encryption related leak. Like I said, mine's been rock solid. Straight up factory except for non-encrypt and root.
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It's happening many of the devices. As it's evident that many other major issues like screen burn-in, problem in speakers etc are not present to every devices, this issue is not an exceptional It seems that Google is planning for 5.1 update for Nexus 6
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Lets hope for hwcrypto....
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Could be related to the watch or some other software you're running. Or an encryption related leak. Like I said, mine's been rock solid. Straight up factory except for non-encrypt and root.
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Lets hope for hwcrypto....
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I think encryption has nothing to do with the random reboots And if you're considering moto 360's apps for this, then I should say, No
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I think encryption has nothing to do with the random reboots
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On what do you judge that? Software crypto is a very heavy memory user. From what I've heard, the reboots seem to be related to memory pressure.
And if you're considering moto 360's apps for this, then I should say, No
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"Android wear" has very serious tentacles that run through frameworks and gapps. Applications themselves COULD NOT be the problem since Android will just kill them when the memory hit becomes too big, but the frameworks tentacles are another story altogether.
In any case, my point about hwcrypto was more about performance improvements from AOSP 5.1 rather than random reboots.
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On what do you judge that? Software crypto is a very heavy memory user. From what I've heard, the reboots seem to be related to memory pressure.
"Android wear" has very serious tentacles that run through frameworks and gapps. Applications themselves COULD NOT be the problem since Android will just kill them when the memory hit becomes too big, but the frameworks tentacles are another story altogether.
In any case, my point about hwcrypto was more about performance improvements from AOSP 5.1 rather than random reboots.
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There is RAM leaking but I've noticed today that when I went to see the RAM usage after booting up from a force shutdown, then there was 1.8GB of free RAM and then I scrolled a little bit to see which apps are occupying the space. Then guess what? Bam, again a force shut down
Related
Just decided to use my Nexus 10 after about a day or two of inactivity, and I noticed it was real sluggish. Went over to Running apps, everything shown there is Restarting, and there is only about 77MB of RAM free.
I've had this happen a few times I believe.
Is this scenario avoidable in any way?
espionage724 said:
Just decided to use my Nexus 10 after about a day or two of inactivity, and I noticed it was real sluggish. Went over to Running apps, everything shown there is Restarting, and there is only about 77MB of RAM free.
I've had this happen a few times I believe.
Is this scenario avoidable in any way?
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Free RAM isn't usually a problem: Android will cache things in memory to help them load faster, so normally seeing <100mb of free RAM isn't anything to be concerned about, and will not affect performance at all.
The sluggishness and "restarting" services sound like something bad, though.
First, make sure you aren't running any kind of automatic task manager/killer. Next, after restarting your device, keep an eye on that running services tab in Android settings: apps. See if any of them seem to be growing in RAM use disproportionately to the others. It may take a few hours to show up.
I suspect you have one bad app with a leak causing low memory to force the other services out of memory.
Even after caching and such this tablet should normally have 400-600MB of free RAM though. The low amounts definitely come from a memory leak. Right now the general consensus is that it cannot be avoided because it is a problem with the GPU driver. How much truth there is to this I dont know. I do know that I myself did not have performance issues or memory leaks when I was back on 4.2.1 running CM10.1, so I still feel like something in 4.2.2 introduced a memory leak.
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Even after caching and such this tablet should normally have 400-600MB of free RAM though. The low amounts definitely come from a memory leak.
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It is normal and expected for free memory to dip lower than that during normal operation. It is simply inaccurate to tell people otherwise.
I would caution against claiming something is "definitely" anything with so little solid information.
It might be that there is a memory leak, but it is much more likely to be a user app than a kernel memory leak until there is hard data saying otherwise. As of now there is only one highly subjective user report.
During operation yes, but when you pick it up after days of the tablet idling with nothing running?
There is plenty of solid information if you have looked around the development threads with all the activity trying to pin down the memory leaks everyone is having, to say one doesnt exist just shows how little you have been getting around the threads.
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Free RAM isn't usually a problem: Android will cache things in memory to help them load faster, so normally seeing <100mb of free RAM isn't anything to be concerned about, and will not affect performance at all.
The sluggishness and "restarting" services sound like something bad, though.
First, make sure you aren't running any kind of automatic task manager/killer. Next, after restarting your device, keep an eye on that running services tab in Android settings: apps. See if any of them seem to be growing in RAM use disproportionately to the others. It may take a few hours to show up.
I suspect you have one bad app with a leak causing low memory to force the other services out of memory.
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Nothing in Recent apps, I had all my usual apps installed. Most of the time when I'm doing nothing I have hundreds of MB of RAM available as free space.
No Task Killers either. Couldn't even open a game I had (would instantly go back to launcher, no FC message) or take a screenshot even.
Just my personal experience, but I have owned my N10 since December and frequently let mine idle for days and have never come across this issue yet. Memory on mine is usually above 600MB everytime I check it in the Apps setting, I don't think I've ever seen it go under 100 since I've owned it, and I do go in there a lot to force stop certain things that autostart. I am leaning more towards what ZanshinG1 said that its a rogue app installed thats eating it
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During operation yes, but when you pick it up after days of the tablet idling with nothing running?
There is plenty of solid information if you have looked around the development threads with all the activity trying to pin down the memory leaks everyone is having, to say one doesnt exist just shows how little you have been getting around the threads.
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I suspect we have different standards for what qualifies as useful information. Let's just leave it at that.
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Nothing in Recent apps, I had all my usual apps installed. Most of the time when I'm doing nothing I have hundreds of MB of RAM available as free space.
No Task Killers either. Couldn't even open a game I had (would instantly go back to launcher, no FC message) or take a screenshot even.
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Do you have any apps which use OpenGL ES running? Games and live wallpapers are the usual suspects.
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Do you have any apps which use OpenGL ES running? Games and live wallpapers are the usual suspects.
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Nope, nothing was open at the time, and had a normal wallpaper (non-Live).
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I suspect we have different standards for what qualifies as useful information. Let's just leave it at that.
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For the record surfaceflinger will eat about 100 megs per hour of video when you watch YouTube through chrome. I've duplicated this on stock, CM, mrrobinson AOKP, and raspbean. At about 600 megs the tablet will start misbehaving, closing apps, being sluggish, keyboard won't come up in chrome when you go to the address bar, etc. If you can stand to wait it will eventually reboot usually when idle in my case. Oddly enough the YouTube app doesn't produce the same results on the same video.
The usefulness is debatable. The facts are not.
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Hopefully ROM dev's will add some newer AOSP commits to their ROMs too, such as:
Fix a minor leak in dvmCreateInlineSubsTable (commit to aosp)
minor leaks caused by failed initialization in JNI_CreateJavaVM (commit to aosp)
Fix a minor bug in dvmCreateInterpThread (commit to aosp)
Fix some leaks in VfyBasicBlock & BitVector (commit to aosp)
But it is probably a rogue app.
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But it is probably a rogue app.
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Chrome?
So for s&gs I installed naked browser and I'm not seeing the climb like I did with chrome. After about 4 hours of YouTube it went up 4 megs instead of 400 megs. I just saw another user seem to confirm this too.
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Chrome?
So for s&gs I installed naked browser and I'm not seeing the climb like I did with chrome. After about 4 hours of YouTube it went up 4 megs instead of 400 megs. I just saw another user seem to confirm this too.
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I don't watch videos from Chrome, and it wasn't open at the time either (I may of opened it earlier before I noticed the memory leak, but I know I swiped it away from Recents when I was done with it). I didn't use the YouTube app either.
Had it occur again, although it wasn't "as" severe since I was able to load a game and take screenshots this time; performance was definitely slower though...
Running Apps:
Cached Apps:
Maybe run PS in terminal the next time and grab a screenshot. Then after reboot or return to normal do it again and compare usage?
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I have my tablet reboot every night at 4am with Tasker-Secure Settings plugin. Maybe not a fix for the issue at hand, but enough to make this problem go away permanently and reliably.
Easy fix: don't use trash roms like aokp or cm
I personally use team eos and ktmanta and the system runs super smooth with no memory leaks what so ever. After 32 hours if I clean all apps I got 600 or 700 mb free.
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Easy fix: don't use trash roms like aokp or cm
I personally use team eos and ktmanta and the system runs super smooth with no memory leaks what so ever. After 32 hours if I clean all apps I got 600 or 700 mb free.
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Wow. Talk about trash talk.
I've never ahd this issue on AOKP or CM, have on PA... I did enjoy Eos when I used it but found RootBox had the features I needed. Then again... I reboot every few nights typically. My mom leaves her Nexus 7 on for weeks on end with no issue, but its not a 10.
lvnatic said:
Easy fix: don't use trash roms like aokp or cm
I personally use team eos and ktmanta and the system runs super smooth with no memory leaks what so ever. After 32 hours if I clean all apps I got 600 or 700 mb free.
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I don't consider rasbeanjelly trash...
I think I've run into this bug once, after a couple days of usage, likely mostly inactive without charging. I noticed that everything I tried to do was really sluggish and once I saw all the apps restarting in the built-in task manager, I figured something was seriously borked, so I rebooted the tablet and it was back to normal. Given all the other stability problems others have reported with this tablet, I'm glad just a very occasional reboot like this is the worst of my problems. :victory: I'm running stock Android 4.2.2, with only a handful of apps installed, probably more default apps uninstalled than apps added.
Have had my n7 since they came out (32g WiFi) and love it.. Lately she's been running real slow. (Official cm11).. If I do a full FULL wipe and drop an official 5.0.0 image on it, think that will help get some performance back? I know the internal memory type is a big limitation, any way to format it and maybe clean or speed it up?
(I've done the usual, wrote and reflash, open space, stop apps at startup, speed up tricks...)
Thanks..
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Have had my n7 since they came out (32g WiFi) and love it.. Lately she's been running real slow. (Official cm11).. If I do a full FULL wipe and drop an official 5.0.0 image on it, think that will help get some performance back? I know the internal memory type is a big limitation, any way to format it and maybe clean or speed it up?
(I've done the usual, wrote and reflash, open space, stop apps at startup, speed up tricks...)
Thanks..
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A full wipe would more than likely help right now. Although with 5.0 a few weeks away, its best to wait until then. You could flash the official 5.0 factory images once they're up, or someone's bound to make a stock rooted 5.0 ROM also.
If you can't wait you could try experimenting with the f2fs formatting, there's a how to thread and a good selection of compatible ROMs available. In haven't tried it personally but most users seem to notice significant improvements on their N7.
I would suggest to install a diagnostic app like diagnosis by darken and read a report of how apps eat your cpu/ram instead of going the process of backuping and formating.
From my experience apps which slow a device
Facebook
Viber
WhatsApp
And most of the messaging apps.
A clean install of any Android version would help. ?
I would suggest using a cleaning tool like SD Maid by Darken and formatting your Cache/Dalvik Cache.
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Don't install 5.0 it made things worse then in 4.4
mrsofa said:
Don't install 5.0 it made things worse then in 4.4
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I installed 5.0 on my N7 2012 and it is crazy fast! As soon as I installed Facebook the whole thing froze up. Systemui crashed, everything crashed. Finally managed to get FB uninsulated (took 20 minutes) and it runs smooth again. Not sure what the hell FB app did, but it was pretty crazy. I tried it again and same thing.
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Schaweet said:
I installed 5.0 on my N7 2012 and it is crazy fast! As soon as I installed Facebook the whole thing froze up. Systemui crashed, everything crashed. Finally managed to get FB uninsulated (took 20 minutes) and it runs smooth again. Not sure what the hell FB app did, but it was pretty crazy. I tried it again and same thing.
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Before you installed android 5.0 your nexus 7 2012 was very laggy and choppy?
antimo84c said:
Before you installed android 5.0 your nexus 7 2012 was very laggy and choppy?
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Yes, it was very laggy on 4.4.4.
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Yes, it was very laggy on 4.4.4.
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My n7 2012 3g is almost unusable. I hope lollipop will solve bug and lag
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My n7 2012 3g is almost unusable. I hope lollipop will solve bug and lag
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My wifi model was the same way. 5.0 fixes it. Just don't install FB beta.
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I installed 5.0 on my N7 2012 and it is crazy fast! As soon as I installed Facebook the whole thing froze up. Systemui crashed, everything crashed. Finally managed to get FB uninsulated (took 20 minutes) and it runs smooth again. Not sure what the hell FB app did, but it was pretty crazy. I tried it again and same thing.
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I recommend the Facebook app below, its based on the browser version and it a hundred times lighter than the official app. Doesn't have access to the permissions (basically everything) that the official fb app has either which is better.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2864561
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My wifi model was the same way. 5.0 fixes it. Just don't install FB beta.
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Unsubscribed from fb beta right now because it was making problem on my htc one aswell... Fixed problems on the HTC, but the nexus...still no go. Sometimes it works...normally (my HTC is faster, but is not horribly slower) but then I looses it all and starts lagging so badly I put it down and dont use it for 2hours, and then it's okay again...
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Unsubscribed from fb beta right now because it was making problem on my htc one aswell... Fixed problems on the HTC, but the nexus...still no go. Sometimes it works...normally (my HTC is faster, but is not horribly slower) but then I looses it all and starts lagging so badly I put it down and dont use it for 2hours, and then it's okay again...
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Yeah same thing here. What's crazy is I installed Friendcaster instead of the stock FB app and the same thing happened. Makes me think it's not the app and instead something with FB server side not liking LP.
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Same problems here. I have hangups amounting to tens of seconds doing what used to be otherwise instantaneous actions when the tablet was new.
The question; is this performance degradation related to component aging or software-related? Our N7s are more or less out of 1yr warranty now and I am wondering whether there will be any traction with ASUS about a flaw which was present at purchase? Components crap out of the door outlasts a claim on fault developments in the wild.
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Same problems here. I have hangups amounting to tens of seconds doing what used to be otherwise instantaneous actions when the tablet was new.
The question; is this performance degradation related to component aging or software-related? Our N7s are more or less out of 1yr warranty now and I am wondering whether there will be any traction with ASUS about a flaw which was present at purchase? Components crap out of the door outlasts a claim on fault developments in the wild.
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2 things. A bloated system and cache will slow things down. And for me... My N7 seems slower every time I upgrade my phone. Lol
Wipe it clean and start again with fresh stock install. ?
Hardware doesn't slow down. It works, or doesn't work... Or can work intermittently if it's damaged. But not just slower.
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2 things. A bloated system and cache will slow things down. And for me... My N7 seems slower every time I upgrade my phone. Lol
Wipe it clean and start again with fresh stock install. ?
Hardware doesn't slow down. It works, or doesn't work... Or can work intermittently if it's damaged. But not just slower.
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Everyone in this thread is saying that 5.0 and 4.4.4 fresh install are slow for them, why is everyone saying do a fresh stock install?
I have a 2 day stock install and this works slower then my friends samsung ace.
p.s. i uninstalled fb, and messenger... still slow.
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Everyone in this thread is saying that 5.0 and 4.4.4 fresh install are slow for them, why is everyone saying do a fresh stock install?
I have a 2 day stock install and this works slower then my friends samsung ace.
p.s. i uninstalled fb, and messenger... still slow.
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Then go to the last version that was fast? Or a good custom rom?
My point was and is... Hardware doesn't slow down. It may break or become erratic.. But not slower.
So the issue is on the software side. ?
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I never liked kit Kat either on my N7...its still running stock, rooted 4.2.2. Smooth and snappy. ?
How does google even thing about putting out something that's so slow?
Are they desperately wanting us to switch to the nexus 9?
This is my last tablet I ever bought.
So anyone has 5.0.2 allready?
I have it. I see no difference. The tab freezes for about a minute sometimes when using chrome. Dolphin is even worse. So most of the time i get these freeze ups and the whole tablet becomes unresponsive.
Anyone else?
I managed to install LRX21R update. Factory image Q first.
Any differences from Q?
I still experience warming up while browsing in chrome.
reijndert said:
I managed to install LRX21R
Any differences from Q?
I still experience warming up while browsing in chrome.
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i disable chrome and use chrome beta on all my devices. doesn't seem to get very warm for me
Is battery life better with Chrome Beta?
I tried to side load the ota and it errors at package.zip. copied it over to twrp and when I try to flash it it says it's meant for a flounder while I have a volantis device. I unlocked the boot loader, used CFroot, and flashed twrp after using the factory images for the previous release.
IMO this the same as Q build but for folks like me and many others who could not install becase old recovey. I dont see many changes yet - browsing still drains like 1% every two minutes making this tablet piece of useless electronics.
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IMO this the same as Q build but for folks like me and many others who could not install becase old recovey. I dont see many changes yet - browsing still drains like 1% every two minutes making this tablet piece of useless electronics.
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Enjoy what ever tablet you decide to get. :good:
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Enjoy what ever tablet you decide to get. :good:
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Since I forgot my Nexus 10 in plane last december I owned the following tablets: samsung tab pro 8.4, samsung tab s 8.4, xiaomi mipad and now the nexus 9. Hatebto say it but this is the year I am extremely dissapointed with the absence of any progress on Android tablets.
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Since I forgot my Nexus 10 in plane last december I owned the following tablets: samsung tab pro 8.4, samsung tab s 8.4, xiaomi mipad and now the nexus 9. Hatebto say it but this is the year I am extremely dissapointed with the absence of any progress on Android tablets.
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http://www.androidcentral.com/nokia-n1-249-android-tablet-comes-lollipop-out-box
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IMO this the same as Q build but for folks like me and many others who could not install becase old recovey. I dont see many changes yet - browsing still drains like 1% every two minutes making this tablet piece of useless electronics.
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I'm going to assume you haven't investigated what is causing your wakelocks. because that is abnormal drain time for any device. you are on lollipop, running old KitKat and donut software most likely . there are a number of free LP compatible wake lock analyzing options out there. solve your problems (in turn, help others with same issue), or consider going back to a pager.
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I see no wake locs.
While screen off, it goes to deepsleep.
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I managed to install LRX21R update. Factory image Q first.
Any differences from Q?
I still experience warming up while browsing in chrome.
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I got R loaded up and re-reooted. I just opened up 8 tabs in chrome and clicked on links in all of them. The N9 is not as hot as it use to be. I'm still going to play around with it and monitor, but so far so good over here.
Just got a 17MB update from Q to R. I'm getting a lot of Wi-Fi dropouts.
accordex said:
http://www.androidcentral.com/nokia-n1-249-android-tablet-comes-lollipop-out-box
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Interesting device but depends how the atom will work, screen, battery, etc
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Migamix said:
I'm going to assume you haven't investigated what is causing your wakelocks. because that is abnormal drain time for any device. you are on lollipop, running old KitKat and donut software most likely . there are a number of free LP compatible wake lock analyzing options out there. solve your problems (in turn, help others with same issue), or consider going back to a pager.
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Yeah I'm aware of such software and using it on my 1+1. However I wanted to at least try to use my Nexus 9 as "normal user" would do for the first time. Browsing still drains ridiculous amount of battery however I confirm that it is now much better on R build. And heating is much less.
Ps never owned a pager
any improvement on screen flicking?
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I got tired of waiting for Google to issue a working OTA for those of us stuck on LRX21L so I flashed the LRX21R factory image. I'm very happy with it and am glad I took plunge. Noticeable improvements on smoothness. Device still gets hots at times but its improved IMO.
FYI.. I tried following googles instruction for flashing the image. It didn't work.. It crapped out on the SYSTEM.IMG.
Manually flashing each of the IMG files went fine though and all is now working great.
Lastly,
I'd like to point out the the device restore feature worked much better than I had hoped. It even managed to keep app data settings on a couple of apps (that don't have sign in accounts).
Does Google Now from lock screen work for you after some time?
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Does Google Now from lock screen work for you after some time?
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Just flashed R and TWRP this morning. OK Google works from anywhere for me.
prdog1 said:
Just flashed R and TWRP this morning. OK Google works from anywhere for me.
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Try it from home screen. Then try it while off.
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ram130 said:
Try it from home screen. Then try it while off.
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Did. It works with black screen, lockscreen, homescreen, within apps, everywhere. You have it turned on in GNow settings?
Got the R update today. Seems good so far. :good:
Hi all,
as stated in the past days by oneplus, a new touch firmware has been released and will be in cluded in 5/15 cm12.1 nightly. this should (i hope so) resolve all the remaining touch issues that affects many opo
Here is the coomit: http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/98287/
05/18: The touch firmware has been reverted to the old one because of battery drain caused by dt2w
sub.
Looks like working very good. Flashing Nightly and screen is more responsible ever sinde the failure occured. waitung für Lord Boefla or slimkat to include it
Tested and feeling much better
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Tested and feeling much better
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can you please test if two finger on the same X axys are now registered correctly? my opo is through the RMA process so i can't test
Certainly seems to be working for me. Typing fine, and x-axis multitouch is working great.
effry said:
can you please test if two finger on the same X axys are now registered correctly? my opo is through the RMA process so i can't test
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Yes, working fine for me.....
The question now is.... will be forever?
multi touch on mine phone on x axis is still jerking from time to time
sometimes it works normally, detects 2 fingers, then on the other hand detects one or none
will see how it will perform through the day, but since i made a clean flash, i doubt that it will be better...
I have the grounding issue with my ONE. No problems with higher temperatures though.
I flashes Franco Kernel r43 boot.img on my stock cm12s. Fo rme the issues are gone.
x-axis touching is working good. Swiping texts is finally possible again!
Thanks to synaptics!!
I will probably switch to cm12.1 nightlies again when I have some spare time left.
Any way this could be a flashable zip for all ROMs or is this something that is baked into the ROM/Kernel?
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Any way this could be a flashable zip for all ROMs or is this something that is baked into the ROM/Kernel?
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You can flash Franco's kernel below if you are on CM12s/CM12 (5.0.2). Or the alternative is to flash the 5/15 nightly (5.1) or wait for it to be rolled out OTA.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60747459&postcount=8989
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You can flash Franco's kernel below if you are on CM12s/CM12 (5.0.2). Or the alternative is to flash the 5/15 nightly (5.1) or wait for it to be rolled out OTA.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60747459&postcount=8989
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No chance for CM11s? I'm just not a fan of 5.x right now.
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No chance for CM11s? I'm just not a fan of 5.x right now.
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I think you may be in luck! If you take the plunge let us know how you find it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60755103&postcount=4637
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I think you may be in luck! If you take the plunge let us know how you find it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60755103&postcount=4637
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Nice! Thanks for the link. Flashing now.
I had only mild touchscreen issues so I'll see if it gets rid of them.
I've never had touch issues thus far, but I am a bit disappointed at the fix. Although I do notice a better touch response, the fix isn't a fix and is a workaround. PPPreferences has a huge battery drain (com.qualcomm.display) which basically, like I've seen written somewhere, means they're just keeping an app open to recalibrate the screen constantly.
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I've never had touch issues thus far, but I am a bit disappointed at the fix. Although I do notice a better touch response, the fix isn't a fix and is a workaround. PPPreferences has a huge battery drain (com.qualcomm.display) which basically, like I've seen written somewhere, means they're just keeping an app open to recalibrate the screen constantly.
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Not for me. Nothing changed in terms of battery usage with today's nightly. Also it isn't even listed under Apps in the battery screen on my device.
This app is only used for post processing (Live Display) and has nothing to do with the new firmware.
I was suffering from pretty bad heat related issues, all gone now.
I just flashed Boeffla-Kernel for CM11s. I can definitely tell a difference. There was one app that I could make it jump when swiping up or down and holding it toward the bottom-middle of the screen, no longer have that issue. I also constantly had trouble with it "clicking" things when all I wanted to do was scroll up or down on something. Have not had that issue since flashing.
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Not for me. Nothing changed in terms of battery usage with today's nightly. Also it isn't even listed under Apps in the battery screen on my device.
This app is only used for post processing (Live Display) and has nothing to do with the new firmware.
I was suffering from pretty bad heat related issues, all gone now.
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Hmm that's pretty interesting then, but I don't seem to be the only one reporting a difference in the CPU time of something which includes the Qualcomm services. We'll see with more usage though.
Do you need root to install?
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Do you need root to install?
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Yes, until it gets pushed officially, as you need to either flash a custom kernel or the latest nightly.
I see others are having issues with the phone being sluggish and freezing - requiring a forced restart. I've had these issues since day one, but the phone is just so damn beautiful to stop using.
I've tried everything I have seen on this site including factory resets and manually adding apps back in (in lieu of restoring from Google). Still happens.
I've been emailing back and forth with Essential customer service, and while they're responsive, I'm getting frustrated.
They asked me to use it in Safe Mode for a couple days, and I had no issues. So they concluded it's an app causing the problem. So they want me to do another factory reset, and then add apps back one at a time for a few days to see if I can pinpoint which app(s) are causing the issue. I have 100+ apps on the phone - this will take months to do!
My comment to them (that they didn't appreciate) is that if they want to compete with the flagship phones of other OEM's the phone should be able to handle any app you you throw at is, and I have no issues with my ZTE Axon 7 running the exact same apps.
Am I off base here? Any other suggestions?
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I see others are having issues with the phone being sluggish and freezing - requiring a forced restart. I've had these issues since say one, but the phone is just so damn beautiful to stop using.
I've tried everything I have seen on this site including factory resets and manually adding apps back in (in lieu of restoring from Google). Still happens.
I've been emailing back and forth with Essential customer service, and while they're responsive, I'm getting frustrated.
They asked me to use it in Safe Mode for a couple days, and I had no issues. So they concluded it's an app causing the problem. So they want me to do another factory reset, and then add apps back one at a time for a few days to see if I can pinpoint which app(s) are causing the issue. I have 100+ apps on the phone - this will take months to do!
My comment to them (that they didn't appreciate) is that if they want to compete with the flagship phones of other OEM's the phone should be able to handle any app you you throw at is, and I have no issues with my ZTE Axon 7 running the exact same apps.
Am I off base here? Any other suggestions?
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You are off base.
There are apps that can cause issues and no manufacturer can guarantee the performance of their device with any and all apps in the PlayStore.
There are apps that have memory leaks, wake events, etc. and there is no way for them to contain any/all errant apps, nor should they.
I suggest Greenify to look at app behavior and see what isn't sleeping and taking resources.
You can also look at the battery stats and see what app is burning battery.
Social media apps are typically bad.
Things like Pet Rescue and Candy Crush can also cause issues.
Make sure you limit which apps can do notifications and limit those to SMS and email apps.
Good luck.
I would highly recommend testing the Oreo 8.1 beta. HUGE performance improvement
I've been running N 7.1.1 since I got the phone 2 weeks ago and the performance has been stellar, scrolling is smooth and fast, no freezes at all, after reading the issues with 8.1 beta (battery drain, wifi etc.) I'm in no rush to upgrade....
I am on 7.1.1, came here after searching google seeing if they'll ever do this android Oreo Update. I have some phantom touches on my touchscreen. Thank god this phone was cheap. That S9 keeps looking better and better.
tech_head said:
You are off base.
There are apps that can cause issues and no manufacturer can guarantee the performance of their device with any and all apps in the PlayStore.
There are apps that have memory leaks, wake events, etc. and there is no way for them to contain any/all errant apps, nor should they.
I suggest Greenify to look at app behavior and see what isn't sleeping and taking resources.
You can also look at the battery stats and see what app is burning battery.
Social media apps are typically bad.
Things like Pet Rescue and Candy Crush can also cause issues.
Make sure you limit which apps can do notifications and limit those to SMS and email apps.
Good luck.
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Thanks for your honesty. I'm giving greenify a shot though I still think a phone like this should not need something like this.
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InfDaMarvel said:
I am on 7.1.1, came here after searching google seeing if they'll ever do this android Oreo Update. I have some phantom touches on my touchscreen. Thank god this phone was cheap. That S9 keeps looking better and better.
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yes the Samsung will be issue free? dream on! no phone is issue free. I really like the essential and they are right you have to locate the bad app yourself.
because the open structure of android. app builders can really destroy the user experience on your phone.
if you don't want that? buy an iPhone.
for sure the app will destroy the performance of an s9 as well!
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yes the Samsung will be issue free? dream on! no phone is issue free. I really like the essential and they are right you have to locate the bad app yourself.
because the open structure of android. app builders can really destroy the user experience on your phone.
if you don't want that? buy an iPhone.
for sure the app will destroy the performance of an s9 as well!
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The touchscreen issue is related to hardware from what I can see and have read. Performance issues for me are related to memory management and the fact that I use a lot of memory hogging applications. Don't get me wrong just because your experience has been stellar the. I think it's a cool phone. Just not good enough for me to continue using it for another year. The Samsung...I specifically said the S9 because of extra ram and its top of the line screen. Which you can deny if you want but it's true. Best in class screen. They even make the iPhones screen. This phone was cheap so it was worth it for me because I enjoy tech regardless of the flaws. Just need that official oreo update!
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The touchscreen issue is related to hardware from what I can see and have read. Performance issues for me are related to memory management and the fact that I use a lot of memory hogging applications. Don't get me wrong just because your experience has been stellar the. I think it's a cool phone. Just not good enough for me to continue using it for another year. The Samsung...I specifically said the S9 because of extra ram and its top of the line screen. Which you can deny if you want but it's true. Best in class screen. They even make the iPhones screen. This phone was cheap so it was worth it for me because I enjoy tech regardless of the flaws. Just need that official oreo update!
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S9 is also 4 Gig RAM just like our PH-1, no extra RAM...
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S9 is also 4 Gig RAM just like our PH-1, no extra RAM...
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S9+ to be exact
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S9+ to be exact
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Yip S9+
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look I had the S8 and it was stellar, but was looking for some cash so sold my S8 for $620 and bought the PH-1 for $450, and I'm really impressed so far, ok sure I dont to rocket science etc on the phone so I'm a pretty light user, but on 7.1.1 its been superb since day 1, smooth, snappy and better battery than the S8.
Agreed with all above. Apps are the issue for any phone. I have a zoo of different makes & models. to compare. Social bs apps are the worst. Even google's own are bad enough. Just do a quick search on ""worst apps for draining battery" and start cleaning your phone.
PH-1 Oreo 8.1 power drain is almost nothing comparing to the rest of the 'stable' world. If you don't like to experiment, stay on stable 7.1 until 8.1 is released.
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Thanks for your honesty. I'm giving greenify a shot though I still think a phone like this should not need something like this.
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Started using Greenify, but to work as intended, it requires you to set it as a Device Admin. When doing this, it disables the fingerprint sensor.
alkanaft said:
Agreed with all above. Apps are the issue for any phone. I have a zoo of different makes & models. to compare. Social bs apps are the worst. Even google's own are bad enough. Just do a quick search on ""worst apps for draining battery" and start cleaning your phone.
PH-1 Oreo 8.1 power drain is almost nothing comparing to the rest of the 'stable' world. If you don't like to experiment, stay on stable 7.1 until 8.1 is released.
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Yes, am in no rush to go to Oreo as 7.1.1 is so solid for me
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why not wait for the oneplus 6? all oneplus phones have tons of memory?
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I would highly recommend testing the Oreo 8.1 beta. HUGE performance improvement
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Ditto here.My 7.1.1 was acting up.Oreo has been butter.Some nice tweaks built in as well.Pic in Pic is cool and useful.As is the floating dialer.
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why not wait for the oneplus 6? all oneplus phones have tons of memory?
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I'd say that RAM is not an issue here. The software causes phone performance to degrade. 8.1 works fine for me. Hardware itself in PH-1 is awesome. And price tag beats OnePlus and many others. ??
So far, the Oreo OTA update has been great. No issues like I had on Nougat. Hope this remains.