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I want to give some opinions on the latest Lollipop update.
I used the Brazilian soak test (5.0 Motorola Firmware) and I'm currently running GPE 5.0.1
On the bright side, the 5.0 moto firmware ran at the same speed/performance level as 4.4.4 and a bit smoother, so that's good.
Now, the GPE 5.0.1 runs faster than ever on my XT1032, not even one lag afaik, but the most I noted is how the apps launch quickier.
GPE doesn't have Moto Camera and Gallery, so no HDR and slowmo (Not in google camera, not in aosp camera). That's a bummer.
But that doesn't have really to do with Lollipop. Now, the notifications. There's no silent mode (well, there is NONE but goodbye alarms and LED notification!). So there is priority mode.
The apps set their priority themselves, so it's kinda useless. You use priority mode, it still rings for WhatsApp. Even if isn't set as priority, and I tried turning priority on and off on Per-app notification settings.
Worst of all is that on Stock Unrooted 4.4.4 the notification was already somehow crippled. Without a Xposed Module you couldn't set different volumes for ringtone and notification sounds. Most OEMs add that option.
Also, no dropdown on the volume bar that pops up when you press the volume rocker. OEMs usually add that too.
Heads-Up Notifications. Yeah, that's cool not having whole screen pop up a call when you trying to do something. But again, every app set its priority and you get heads up that can't let you see the status bar properly all the time. You get no ticker, I really loved that way to read notifications. Very uninstrusive.
I had sound bugs on some games on 5.0 moto, I don't have them on 5.0.1, however there's an app that launches so slow on 5.0.1 and it doesn't multitask at all (only on that app). As long as you leave it, gets killed.
Didn't happen on 4.4.4.
There's also more other annoyances you know, or even I maybe don't remember right now. But all my expectations for Lollipop got crushed.
Rollback to 4.4.4 is possible, however you get that screen flicker, easily fixable by locking and unlocking the device. However, it appears on reboot again.
I'm honestly waiting for a PERMANENT solution to the flicker and I think I'm going back to 4.4.4 right away.
Anyways it's a shame they f'd up so hard, when the system is all-around fast, responsive, and stable. But VERY unintuitive, and adds/remove features without letting you choose like it's common on Android.
hopefully , he jumps something new mistakes , just step in kitkat arise , but the frustration we generate ourselves for such a yearning for the arrival of 5.0 . in general I do not return to 4.4.4 even taking the gpe 5.0 . anger correcting everything , now they release to the United States and Europe will come firmwere many developments with the new boot and see cyanogenmos with the new boot , so you can not ask for much
sorry for mi bad inglish
The interruptions system is kind of weird,i'll give you that.
I haven't messed around with priority mode,as the only time i turn down my sound is when i go to school in which i have my phone in my pocket so i don't really need the LED.
Aside from that i had compatibility issues with some apps,mainly whatsapp and spotify.
Whatsapp crashes constantly when you're setting it up,but after that its mostly fine.
Spotify just decides to not open sometimes,or open very slowly,or delete you entire downloaded song archive,it's annoying but i can bear it till an update comes i suppose.
One problem i had with the brazil 5.0 was that there was no mobile data quick toggle,when you pressed it on toggles screen it just took you to mobile data settings but that's fixed in 5.0.1 GPE.
Well,aside from the priority mode which imo just needs some tinkering with on google's end,these are very minor and simple problems that can and will be fixed.
I wouldn't call this a "fiasco" not even close,lollipop is so much faster than KK especially when you're multitasking.It just flies.
It seems like you were expecting too much from the whole thing.
Not a fiasco at all, but I agree that the priority mode needs to be improved, there's no way to put it in 'silent but with alarm' if some apps are in the 'priority list'.
Also, I'm waiting for someone to make a Moto Camera zip too. With the apk and the needed libraries it should work.
I miss HDR, and slow-mo is a cool feature.
What u want from lollipop? You thought your phone will evolve MotoX or nexus6 when you install lollipop? Google not offered too much thing about lollipop. Watch presentation of lollipop. Only talked about good battery performance and material design.
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xDAPO said:
What u want from lollipop? You thought your phone will evolve MotoX or nexus6 when you install lollipop? Google not offered too much thing about lollipop. Watch presentation of lollipop. Only talked about good battery performance and material design.
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Which is pretty good for an update imo.
The system is much faster and much easier to use now.
maxxblade said:
The interruptions system is kind of weird,i'll give you that.
I haven't messed around with priority mode,as the only time i turn down my sound is when i go to school in which i have my phone in my pocket so i don't really need the LED.
Aside from that i had compatibility issues with some apps,mainly whatsapp and spotify.
Whatsapp crashes constantly when you're setting it up,but after that its mostly fine.
Spotify just decides to not open sometimes,or open very slowly,or delete you entire downloaded song archive,it's annoying but i can bear it till an update comes i suppose.
One problem i had with the brazil 5.0 was that there was no mobile data quick toggle,when you pressed it on toggles screen it just took you to mobile data settings but that's fixed in 5.0.1 GPE.
Well,aside from the priority mode which imo just needs some tinkering with on google's end,these are very minor and simple problems that can and will be fixed.
I wouldn't call this a "fiasco" not even close,lollipop is so much faster than KK especially when you're multitasking.It just flies.
It seems like you were expecting too much from the whole thing.
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xDAPO said:
What u want from lollipop? You thought your phone will evolve MotoX or nexus6 when you install lollipop? Google not offered too much thing about lollipop. Watch presentation of lollipop. Only talked about good battery performance and material design.
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All I want is to mute the phone completely, no sound, no vibration, still see the led and the alarms ringing as normal..
KK could.
ianx47 said:
All I want is to mute the phone completely, no sound, no vibration, still see the led and the alarms ringing as normal..
KK could.
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It's a simple fix,google will probably take care of it with 5.0.2/5.1 in a few months.
And even until then somebody will definitely make an unofficial fix.
"Fiasco"?
Bit of a storm in a teacup, all these lollipop gripes, hmm? It's barely out of Beta, and everyone's up in arms... wow... I'm certain these fixes will come, but the question is, how patiently will people wait for them?
Lollipop is by far the best release Google has ever done. Holy sour grapes OP. Google gives us Android for free.
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What u want from lollipop? You thought your phone will evolve MotoX or nexus6 when you install lollipop? Google not offered too much thing about lollipop. Watch presentation of lollipop. Only talked about good battery performance and material design.
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Some of these exclusions and inclusions of features are present on the nexus too, so this really is not an issue of hardware but more to the OS. It sucks because lollipop is supposed to have offered better FUNCTIONALITY and FEATURES on its stock offering and now we're here. it kinda sucks in some department (not owing anything to the moto g's hardware)
Blah blah blah. People were going on like this when Kitkat first came out "JELLYBEAN WAS WAY BETTER" "KITKAT SUCKS CUZ IT REMOVED X FEATURE THAT JELLYBEAN HAD AND DOES THINGS DIFFERENT!"
This thread needs to be closed.
Cupcake (1.5) geeks: "Can't WAIT for Donut - HURRY UP GOOGLE!"
Donut (1.6) geeks: "Can't WAIT for Donut - it's gonna be awesome... HURRY UP GOOGLE!"
And so, throughout the years, each impatient nerd with a slightly obsessive bent towards new and shiny, kept, and keeps on, repeating the "I can't wait for X.X release, my phone is looking old and stale and <blah>"
Android 4.0 was (supposedly) going to change the world, the way people waffled on about it and obsessed over it's release. Then it was 4.1... then the "best" version was suddenly decided to be 4.2.2, then they said KitKat was going to be "revolutionary" or other such hyperbole. The same thing happens all over the tech world - people couldn't wait for DVD to come along and render VHS to landfill (we still use VHS in our house, daily), then it was HD-DVD vs BLU-RAY, then BLU-RAY "won", and it was decided that DVDs would never again be "good enough". Next, it was the moronic, gimmicky obsession with everything 3D... then, suddenly, once "The Industry" had "officially" stated that "3D is dead", it was like a switch had been turned off on the backs of consumer's necks (the mass consumption switch)... now it's 4K, and everyone thinks 1080p "isn't good enough" or is "low res", and in a few years 8K will be seen to be "superior"... this cycle of sheer, unconsidered madness isn't likely to end very soon at all.
Unless ALL you do with your smart phones and tablets is tap UI elements all day to see how shiny and fluid they are, it REALLY isn't all that relevant which version you are on, UNLESS you have severe, mission-critical bugs and lack of features which cost you time and money (unlikely, for most of you, if you were brutally honest with yourselves). You wanna know why you're all so "disappointed"? You work yourselves up into a frenzy, and set your expectations unrealistically high, and when the reality doesn't meet your overblown expectations, the internet goes into meltdown and starts ranting... LMAO.
Here's the day I'll cheer Google - when they abandon Java... UGH - what a horror.
It's just another release... it's coming, and yeah - it's great, but come ON - get off your bums and go and do something else apart from obsessing over it - there's SO much more fulfilment to be had from life
ianx47 said:
All I want is to mute the phone completely, no sound, no vibration, still see the led and the alarms ringing as normal..
KK could.
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try setting it to vibrate then upping the volume by only one click. on some nexus devices it results in the muted state you require, at least worth a try
gnubash said:
Cupcake (1.5) geeks: "Can't WAIT for Donut - HURRY UP GOOGLE!"
Donut (1.6) geeks: "Can't WAIT for Donut - it's gonna be awesome... HURRY UP GOOGLE!"
And so, throughout the years, each impatient nerd with a slightly obsessive bent towards new and shiny, kept, and keeps on, repeating the "I can't wait for X.X release, my phone is looking old and stale and <blah>"
Android 4.0 was (supposedly) going to change the world, the way people waffled on about it and obsessed over it's release. Then it was 4.1... then the "best" version was suddenly decided to be 4.2.2, then they said KitKat was going to be "revolutionary" or other such hyperbole. The same thing happens all over the tech world - people couldn't wait for DVD to come along and render VHS to landfill (we still use VHS in our house, daily), then it was HD-DVD vs BLU-RAY, then BLU-RAY "won", and it was decided that DVDs would never again be "good enough". Next, it was the moronic, gimmicky obsession with everything 3D... then, suddenly, once "The Industry" had "officially" stated that "3D is dead", it was like a switch had been turned off on the backs of consumer's necks (the mass consumption switch)... now it's 4K, and everyone thinks 1080p "isn't good enough" or is "low res", and in a few years 8K will be seen to be "superior"... this cycle of sheer, unconsidered madness isn't likely to end very soon at all.
Unless ALL you do with your smart phones and tablets is tap UI elements all day to see how shiny and fluid they are, it REALLY isn't all that relevant which version you are on, UNLESS you have severe, mission-critical bugs and lack of features which cost you time and money (unlikely, for most of you, if you were brutally honest with yourselves). You wanna know why you're all so "disappointed"? You work yourselves up into a frenzy, and set your expectations unrealistically high, and when the reality doesn't meet your overblown expectations, the internet goes into meltdown and starts ranting... LMAO.
Here's the day I'll cheer Google - when they abandon Java... UGH - what a horror.
It's just another release... it's coming, and yeah - it's great, but come ON - get off your bums and go and do something else apart from obsessing over it - there's SO much more fulfilment to be had from life
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I appreciate your point about the non-essential features like animations and new design, and believe me. I'm not like that. I'm way more focused on functionality than design. To give you an idea, on my desktop PC i have disabled all the OS animations, because most of the time my pc does things faster than the animation itself on daily light workloads (you know, SSDs..).
And on Android, until now, I've always disable animations or turning them into 0.5x scale, because I felt like they were kinda a waste of time, though pretty, I like the snapiness.
Maybe I was a little tough on Lollipop, but when you can't do something on a new release that you could on a previous release, that's kind of bad.. and I mean basic things like having your phone not interrupting but showing a LED light.
I kinda like the idea of Priority and interruptions on Lollipop, however, if you filter something as not priority, it doesn't use the LED light. How exactly is a led light blinking an interruption?.
Led fix
To enable led notifications, install Notification light widget from Motorola in the play store.
Then put the widget in the home screen, enable it and finally you can uninstall it.
It worked on Kit Kat, but surely will work on lollipop too.
Just read on android pit.com
Our source has informed us that Android 5.1 will be launched by the end of February 2015, and a second, completely separate source that is also privy to important information regarding Android updates, confirmed it. Not only that, this is allegedly a rather large update with many interesting new features! See the changelog below:
Silent mode added after missing on Android 5.0
General improvements in system stability
Improved RAM management
Fixes for sudden app closures
Improved battery management
Excessive consumption of network devices when used Wi-Fi fixed
Issues with wireless connections fixed
Problems with Okay Google function solved
Notifications problems solved
Some sound problems experience by certain devices fixed
Other improvements and changes
Changes in the Material Design color palette (after users complaints, possibly for a higher version though)
So far there is no information about functions that it might bring, but we'll be sure to report on those as soon as we hear it.
Android 5.0 was a fantastic update, however it did bring its own list of issues, which we covered how to fix in our Android 5.0 Lollipop common problems and solutions article. That being said, Android 5.1 could get rid of many of the problems we saw here!
Android 6.0: let’s invent the ultimate Android OS
Android 5.0.1 Lollipop update: when will my device get it?
I wonder if that means ok Google will finally work with all aosp roms. I've tried the suggested fixes and the best I've been able to get is it works on any screen but not with screen off. Kind of defeats the purpose when you are trying to use it hands free while driving.
i'll believe it when i see it from Google...
kingston73 said:
I wonder if that means ok Google will finally work with all aosp roms. I've tried the suggested fixes and the best I've been able to get is it works on any screen but not with screen off. Kind of defeats the purpose when you are trying to use it hands free while driving.
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The only ROM I've seen that OK google works with screen off is sinless ROM, because its based off of googles IMG rather than aosp. Pretty solid ROM, you should give it a shot.
I'm really pumped for the Other improvements and changes. I've been wanting this feature for a long time.
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IDK?
Mr Ian B said:
Just read on android pit.com
Our source has informed us that Android 5.1 will be launched by the end of February 2015, and a second, completely separate source that is also privy to important information regarding Android updates, confirmed it. Not only that, this is allegedly a rather large update with many interesting new features! See the changelog below:
Silent mode added after missing on Android 5.0
General improvements in system stability
Improved RAM management
Fixes for sudden app closures
Improved battery management
Excessive consumption of network devices when used Wi-Fi fixed
Issues with wireless connections fixed
Problems with Okay Google function solved
Notifications problems solved
Some sound problems experience by certain devices fixed
Other improvements and changes
Changes in the Material Design color palette (after users complaints, possibly for a higher version though)
So far there is no information about functions that it might bring, but we'll be sure to report on those as soon as we hear it.
Android 5.0 was a fantastic update, however it did bring its own list of issues, which we covered how to fix in our Android 5.0 Lollipop common problems and solutions article. That being said, Android 5.1 could get rid of many of the problems we saw here!
Android 6.0: let’s invent the ultimate Android OS
Android 5.0.1 Lollipop update: when will my device get it?
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As far as I can tell and this being my first Nexus device, development is rather slow. Also to me the whole lollipop android seems very unpolished and lack luster. So many fixed things that cannot be changed without a lot of people in this community doing a lot of work. Simple things like hiding navigation bar and being able to select what one wants on the navigation bar are sorely missing and should be standard on Android. No notification LED, what the ****, even my HTC HD2 had that working and available, in fact that phone was one of the easiest and most customizable phones I've ever owned.
There are so many seemingly standard and simple things that seem to have been left out and on top of that locking the bootloader from the get go just does not scream please feel free to customize me. I thought the Nexus would be a device that, like android would support open source and many wonderful improvements by community users. I don't know, but if I was not told this is a Nexus device, I would swear it was a branded phone of a much less expensive manufacturer. I will keep it until the next update, but if they don't add even the most basic features, and some open source customizations ability to it, I guess I will have to leave the fold. Yes, this phone did not make me a fan of any kind. Nice specs, but not utilized to their full potential and one of the worst experiences out of the box. Makes me appreciate the polish of Samsung, HTC, LG and others.
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As far as I can tell and this being my first Nexus device, development is rather slow. Also to me the whole lollipop android seems very unpolished and lack luster. So many fixed things that cannot be changed without a lot of people in this community doing a lot of work. Simple things like hiding navigation bar and being able to select what one wants on the navigation bar are sorely missing and should be standard on Android. No notification LED, what the ****, even my HTC HD2 had that working and available, in fact that phone was one of the easiest and most customizable phones I've ever owned.
There are so many seemingly standard and simple things that seem to have been left out and on top of that locking the bootloader from the get go just does not scream please feel free to customize me. I thought the Nexus would be a device that, like android would support open source and many wonderful improvements by community users. I don't know, but if I was not told this is a Nexus device, I would swear it was a branded phone of a much less expensive manufacturer. I will keep it until the next update, but if they don't add even the most basic features, and some open source customizations ability to it, I guess I will have to leave the fold. Yes, this phone did not make me a fan of any kind. Nice specs, but not utilized to their full potential and one of the worst experiences out of the box. Makes me appreciate the polish of Samsung, HTC, LG and others.
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Slow amigo? We got root and ROMs and twrp all in less time than Samsung devices simply to get root.
Polish takes more than 1 month since hardware release. This device is brand spanking new on an entirely new and unfamiliar code base.
I had a note 4. It's a great phone feature wise however performance wise the nexus blows it out of the ball park. No lag whatsoever, i do hear the odd crackle from the speaker when starting it up and when the unlock/lock sound plays but that's it. Hope the sound improvements mentioned in the change log will address that. Looking forward to it.
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sweet that means I'll get 5.1 on my nexus 6 same time as I get 5.01
I hope this is true.
I'm hoping that the color palate change will add a darker material design. I always like the holo dark, and switching to the high contrast material design was pretty big. I like in google keyboard you can change it to dark material in the settings, but I'd like to see that on a stock ROM. (I'm waiting for a big ROM like CM, PA, Slim, or Omni to release stable, because I love the features, but I require ota )
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ignoring the fan boy post above yours.
l3uddz said:
I had a note 4. It's a great phone feature wise however performance wise the nexus blows it out of the ball park. No lag whatsoever, i do hear the odd crackle from the speaker when starting it up and when the unlock/lock sound plays but that's it. Hope the sound improvements mentioned in the change log will address that. Looking forward to it.
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I have the crackle to, thought it was another feature. Just like the disabled LED. It also does that when it's been asleep for a while and someone calls. The ring tone is distorted until the phone? wakes. Let's hope? that many people here will work long and hard to make this phone? better.
mjs2011 said:
I'm really pumped for the Other improvements and changes. I've been wanting this feature for a long time.
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lol
vvveith said:
I have the crackle to, thought it was another feature. Just like the disabled LED. It also does that when it's been asleep for a while and someone calls. The ring tone is distorted until the phone? wakes. Let's hope? that many people here will work long and hard to make this phone? better.
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In my completely uneducated opinion that sounds like a very solvable issue with audio processor priority.
i just want wifi calling....
vvveith said:
I have the crackle to, thought it was another feature. Just like the disabled LED. It also does that when it's been asleep for a while and someone calls. The ring tone is distorted until the phone�� wakes. Let's hope�� that many people here will work long and hard to make this phone�� better.
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How is his post a fanboy post? It's literally spot on. The Nexus 6 is BRAND NEW. I mean, the phone went on pre-order late October and very few have been able to get their hands on one because of it's unavailability. Despite that, we have plenty of action going on in development. It seems like you haven't bothered to check.
Also, reading your posts lately on the forum, it seems like you 'ignore' everyone that disagrees with you. Then you call others 'fanboys'.
Anyone see a problem with that?
I would love to see official supported notification LED or improved ambient display. So I wanna have a recognizable notification method of i don´t stare permanently on my mobile and don´t have to pick up.
Jrmiller said:
i just want wifi calling....
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Use hangouts and hangouts dialer and Google voice.
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Silent mode at long last.
jamcswain said:
I'm hoping that the color palate change will add a darker material design. I always like the holo dark, and switching to the high contrast material design was pretty big. I like in google keyboard you can change it to dark material in the settings, but I'd like to see that on a stock ROM. (I'm waiting for a big ROM like CM, PA, Slim, or Omni to release stable, because I love the features, but I require ota )
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Seems really odd that Google releases a dark version of android back in version 4.0 but uses LCDs on their reference phones, but now they release 5.0 with bright colors and use AMOLED. It seems it should have been reversed.
I flashed official lollipop i didn't any new feature
Lollipop is all about the appearance.
I'm using TW Lollipop about a month and I don't see much difference in functions. But the battery lifetime is much better also much smoother and faster.
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dollar7 said:
Lollipop is all about the appearance.
I'm using TW Lollipop about a month and I don't see much difference in functions. But the battery lifetime is much better also much smoother and faster.
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False.
Lollipop comes with a whole bunch of improvements to the system overall.
What I liked the most is the new ART system. It's blazing fast and stability is incredible. I would say that the new way of handeling software overall seems to be a lot better on L rather than on KK. You have a whole new system for the notification system as well, you have complete control of what apps are allowed to give you notifications or not. Security is improved as well. There's tons of changes under the hood, less experienced users may not notice these but it's a huge improvement of Android.
With TW rom no multi dpi...custom kernel.....
The whole point of Lollipop is the Material Design.
Which, if you hate white, is not an improvement. And with Xposed not working on ART, there's not a bloody thing I can do about solving that, quite literal, cause of migraines.
But it's fast, lighter and easy on the battery life.
You also get more control over your lockscreen notifications (turn then off individually), but you sacrifice lockscreen widgets completely as a result. You can, however, use the controls in the notifications (like LUX) from the lockscreen without swiping down the bar.
(I own an S5 running on official PHN 5.0)
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As said above, the runtime change from Dalvik to ART is the biggest advantage of Lollipop over KitKat. Apps should consume less RAM, should be smoother (I have no idea whether that will be placebo or not), so less micro stuttering shall we say?
And appearance is there as usual, which I simply favour, I mean white vs black, all the gaga, personal choice, and you are not interested to know that anyway.
PS: I think Xposed just became compatible for Lollipop. Don't take my word for that though, just saw a tweet from Wanam, well he can't be wrong, but have no time to check in the matter further, but if that's true then I am simply flashing L as soon as its officially released. Incompatibility of Xposed was the biggest gripe of mine to not use L, and with its gone, well all is gooooooooooooooooood
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but have no time to check in the matter further...
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LOL
You could just open the link that wanam posted in his tweet, and there you would see that rovo said that it's working and it will be available soon. Nothing more. That's it. 25 seconds max.
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Wallpaper on both home and lock screen
What i’ve noticed with this official Russian lollipop firmware on Samsung Galaxy Note 3 is that when i want to set a specific wallpaper (i mean when i go to gallery then choose a picture) both on lock screen and home screen then why are there two same options “Home and lock screens”? With the option first i can set wallpaper when there’s only a person on picture but when there are two people then it won’t let me to tap to face and save it. Option two is working fine, no problem at all. Thanks in advance for those who’ll answer me!
P.s.: If i wrote to wrong thread then i'm sorry but still hope there'll be someone who can answer me
Dejan Sathanas said:
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You could just open the link that wanam posted in his tweet, and there you would see that rovo said that it's working and it will be available soon. Nothing more. That's it. 25 seconds max.
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That's excellent news!
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ShadowLea said:
That's excellent news!
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He wrote it here. If you want to follow...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3007229
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I can't be the only one not enjoying lollipop. I feel like it's been dumbed down, had features scrubbed, just horrible experience.
Google and AOSP thrived on customization and user experience. I feel that 5.0 and 5.1 are a step away from that. I'm not even an "early adaptor" this far into the release, yet I feel like a beta tester. Random reboots, Webview crashing tons of apps, I can't use Firefox or Chrome for 10 minutes without a crash, Xposed being dysfunctional. The "interruptions" function is unintuitive. Aesthetically I feel JB and Kk were superior in almost all regards.
I support developers when I can, I want to do nothing but further the Android cause. I can't code so I "buy a beer" for the guys that can occasionally. But each day I'm less and less optimistic about androids future.
Idroid, here we come.
Am I crazy or does anyone else want their 4.4 back as much as I do?
I haven't had any of those problems on 5.0 or 5.1. Are you using a custom ROM or just stock?
ffchampmt said:
I can't be the only one not enjoying lollipop. I feel like it's been dumbed down, had features scrubbed, just horrible experience.
Google and AOSP thrived on customization and user experience. I feel that 5.0 and 5.1 are a step away from that. I'm not even an "early adaptor" this far into the release, yet I feel like a beta tester. Random reboots, Webview crashing tons of apps, I can't use Firefox or Chrome for 10 minutes without a crash, Xposed being dysfunctional. The "interruptions" function is unintuitive. Aesthetically I feel JB and Kk were superior in almost all regards.
I support developers when I can, I want to do nothing but further the Android cause. I can't code so I "buy a beer" for the guys that can occasionally. But each day I'm less and less optimistic about androids future.
Idroid, here we come.
Am I crazy or does anyone else want their 4.4 back as much as I do?
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The hell you talking about? Lollipop has been rock solid for me. What features were removed? And if you're using Xposed, that's probably your problem-- it's an ALPHA.
These are from a mix of stock and Euphoria. It seemed like the amount of work by devs that went into 4.0+ OS was incredible. Now it's echo chamber reassurances of its better, it's better, so smooth, look at material design. *sip green koolaid*
It feels as if the blind notion of "if it's apple it's great" is engulfing android. I want more devs, more AOSP projects, originality.
I am soapboxing a little here but I digress.
I am dissatisfied with the visual and functional direction android is going and want to head back to Kitkat.
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Jaspah said:
The hell you talking about? Lollipop has been rock solid for me. What features were removed? And if you're using Xposed, that's probably your problem-- it's an ALPHA.
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One example. My vibration strength for hepatic feedback and phone ring are linked. I'd like my phone to vibrate on 100% but my key presses to be about 40%. Quick toggle shortcuts are mangled. Lockscreen notification is not on a per app basis.
Forced encryption is an unnecessary tool for most users. If your phone gets turned off after being lost a person who finds it has no owner information. Would device manager even be able to remote lock and erase?
The reason I threw in Xposed dysfunction is because it worked on 4.4. It was a reason I wanted to retreat back to my Kitkat.
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ffchampmt said:
One example. My vibration strength for hepatic feedback and phone ring are linked. I'd like my phone to vibrate on 100% but my key presses to be about 40%. Quick toggle shortcuts are mangled. Lockscreen notification is not on a per app basis.
Forced encryption is an unnecessary tool for most users. If your phone gets turned off after being lost a person who finds it has no owner information. Would device manager even be able to remote lock and erase?
The reason I threw in Xposed dysfunction is because it worked on 4.4. It was a reason I wanted to retreat back to my Kitkat.
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For the encryption, your owner info appears on the password/pattern page when the device is turned on. I can't comment on the vibration cause I can't even feel it at 100%.
ffchampmt said:
One example. My vibration strength for hepatic feedback and phone ring are linked. I'd like my phone to vibrate on 100% but my key presses to be about 40%. Quick toggle shortcuts are mangled. Lockscreen notification is not on a per app basis.
Forced encryption is an unnecessary tool for most users. If your phone gets turned off after being lost a person who finds it has no owner information. Would device manager even be able to remote lock and erase?
The reason I threw in Xposed dysfunction is because it worked on 4.4. It was a reason I wanted to retreat back to my Kitkat.
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A lot of your complaints in this post also are not addressed in stock KitKat. Sounds more like you miss a particular custom experience.
I've heard of these webview crashes but not once had one. Which seems weird because as a software developer I abuse my phone regularly.
The encryption is more useful with malicious software or network attacks.
ffchampmt said:
One example. My vibration strength for hepatic feedback and phone ring are linked. I'd like my phone to vibrate on 100% but my key presses to be about 40%. Quick toggle shortcuts are mangled. Lockscreen notification is not on a per app basis.
Forced encryption is an unnecessary tool for most users. If your phone gets turned off after being lost a person who finds it has no owner information. Would device manager even be able to remote lock and erase?
The reason I threw in Xposed dysfunction is because it worked on 4.4. It was a reason I wanted to retreat back to my Kitkat.
Sent from my Verizon Nexus 6 running Euphoria
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Well seems like you are the only one missing kitkat so if anything sell your nexus 6 and get you an older phone that's still running kitkat while the rest of us enjoy our lollipop.
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The hell you talking about? Lollipop has been rock solid for me. What features were removed? And if you're using Xposed, that's probably your problem-- it's an ALPHA.
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Lmao only reason i would want kit kat is for the roms.......miui for example
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Sounds more like you miss a particular custom experience.
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Exactly my point. Lollipop ain't cutting it in terms of customization.
I guess it is just me then. [emoji58] I'll just have live with it until gravity box or something of its sort comes along.
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ffchampmt said:
Exactly my point. Lollipop ain't cutting it in terms of customization.
I guess it is just me then. [emoji58] I'll just have live with it until gravity box or something of its sort comes along.
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Or you could customize it yourself. Thats how most rom modders get started. What it comes down to is not that you miss Kitkat, but that you want years of development in a shorter time.
I would also like to try a kitkat rom as i still have multiple apps and games that are not compatable with Lolipop.
Surprised we haven't seen a rom. Since certain (rare) N6 actually shipped with 4.4.4
Hand76 said:
I would also like to try a kitkat rom as i still have multiple apps and games that are not compatable with Lolipop.
Surprised we haven't seen a rom. Since certain (rare) N6 actually shipped with 4.4.4
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Yeah and they didn't work because they had been flashed with the wrong image.
http://www.droidmatters.com/news/at...ne-running-android-kitkat-wrong-model-number/
See the baseband unknown and no signal bars? Thats why nobody bothered. It wasn't Kitkat built for the Nexus 6. XT1080 is the Droid Ultra. This was an early early testing build.
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Yeah and they didn't work because they had been flashed with the wrong image.
http://www.droidmatters.com/news/at...ne-running-android-kitkat-wrong-model-number/
See the baseband unknown and no signal bars? Thats why nobody bothered. It wasn't Kitkat built for the Nexus 6. XT1080 is the Droid Ultra.
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Interesting that explains that. So guess it's not going to happen
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Interesting that explains that. So guess it's not going to happen
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Probably not. The early debug build found would have worked, if the binaries were correct. As you could see in the video and pic, the binaries were not correct. Without that as a starting point, it gets really hard to port it. Its one thing to use Kitkat binaries in Lollipop, but another to use Lollipop binaries in Kitkat.
I honestly think in every aspect, Lollipop is so much better than previous versions of Android. For once, most things follow a specific design, and even apps are following it. That is the one thing I hated about owning an Android phone, one app looks this way and another looks that way, menu coming from the left, some have a menu coming from the right, it was just all over the place. I love how sleek Lollipop looks and honestly, the stuff CM12.1 has right now is great. Maybe I'm not into customizing the crap of the phones like I used to be, maybe that's why I'm satisfied. I remember when I owned a Vibrant I'd even change the bootsounds, boot animation, font, and all this other stuff. Now, I'm content with having some customizations but having a stable ROM with great battery life is priority for me.
Lollipop blows KitKat away...
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ffchampmt said:
I can't be the only one not enjoying lollipop. I feel like it's been dumbed down, had features scrubbed, just horrible experience.
Google and AOSP thrived on customization and user experience. I feel that 5.0 and 5.1 are a step away from that. I'm not even an "early adaptor" this far into the release, yet I feel like a beta tester. Random reboots, Webview crashing tons of apps, I can't use Firefox or Chrome for 10 minutes without a crash, Xposed being dysfunctional. The "interruptions" function is unintuitive. Aesthetically I feel JB and Kk were superior in almost all regards.
I support developers when I can, I want to do nothing but further the Android cause. I can't code so I "buy a beer" for the guys that can occasionally. But each day I'm less and less optimistic about androids future.
Idroid, here we come.
Am I crazy or does anyone else want their 4.4 back as much as I do?
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Those issues are definitely not normal, and I'm betting you have hardware issues as the root cause. Bad RAM, the "hard drive", or something is causing it. 5.1 has been perfect for me with none of those issues.
Hardware issues can be just as common as software. I don't know why people always blame software without even considering it to be hardware. The manufacturing process is not perfect either.
Stock is stable and user experience is what Nexus are meant to be.
I'm enjoying it. I've found cyanogenmod based roms seem to have the most customization. Benzo is really stable. I haven't owned anything besides the Turbo and the N6 since the original droid incredible days so maybe I missed the glory days of kitkat.
Now that Lollipop 5.1.1 has officially released by Sony, what are your impressions? Is it worth the upgrade from kitkat or lollipop 5.0.2?
Please share your experiences.
Camera focuses MUCH faster and I have convenient shortcuts in status bar for wifi and bluetooth. I don't have any problems with 5.1.1 nor did I have with 5.0.2.
Z3(5.1.1) stands for a while, line messages won't notice me.
It works great with one exception, every time I power up my phone I'm getting the following message:
5.1.1
I don't know when the launcher was updated to have a custom drawer layout but it's extra smooth and now for the first time ever I'm using a default launcher because I can arrange the apps and hide them out of the way, etc.
The ui feels silky smooth and fluid compared to 5.0.2, I feel like I'm using the z3 again and not some ****ty galaxy ace with unofficial lollipop or something.
Overall the looks and performance have gotten a lot better.
The sound still needs improvement.
What about the audio during calls when using the speaker phone option?
I feel after updated to 5.1 phone easy get warm up
For me biggest bug at the moment is that after deblocking screen colors are washed out when brightness autolevel enabled.
Only had the update installed for around an hour, so my experience is limited. I'll update this post once I've had time to use it for a while.
However, immedietly I have noticed that my phone is MUCH more responsive and fluid. There isnt a stutter when I open my app draw, it's now instant.
I havent noticed a differnece in sound quality - or if I have it isnt a huge difference.
It does seem to be running warmer than usual.
The camera now loads instantly when I press the hard camera button, which is really nice.
two days, no bug for the moment
Camera is really fast. It's even too fast lol ?
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Now there's no percent sign in there
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CavemanXP said:
It works great with one exception, every time I power up my phone I'm getting the following message:
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Clear cache in settings-app-emergency alerts app
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Thanks, I'm familiar with this solution, unfortunately any attempt to clear the cache yielded no results
Just a short update, I cleared the data of the Emergency Alerts application and voila it worked.
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For me biggest bug at the moment is that after deblocking screen colors are washed out when brightness autolevel enabled.
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yep, i noticed that on mine too
Better batery life with 5.1.1:
3 hours with 3g, 20 min of calls, no stamina Mode, debloated by me, and greenify some apps.
Bugs?
1) gap between battery and signal icons.
2) sometimes after unlock the phone, the brightness goes crazy for 3 seconds... (The screen light up much)
Which countries have got the official update so far?
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Which countries have got the official update so far?
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Quite a lot. Get xperifirm and check it out.
As for the washed out colors after unlocking; I actually have had this too on 5.0.2, so its not 5.1.1 related I think!
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As for the washed out colors after unlocking; I actually have had this too on 5.0.2, so its not 5.1.1 related I think!
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Indeed, i had it since 5.0.2 as well. And it doesn't happen all the time.
A bug i found is that the new quick Wi-Fi screen keeps saying "No saved networks found" while i'm connected to 1 and the "normal" screen shows all the networks around.