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Lollipop fiasco.

I want to give some opinions on the latest Lollipop update.
I used the Brazilian soak test (5.0 Motorola Firmware) and I'm currently running GPE 5.0.1
On the bright side, the 5.0 moto firmware ran at the same speed/performance level as 4.4.4 and a bit smoother, so that's good.
Now, the GPE 5.0.1 runs faster than ever on my XT1032, not even one lag afaik, but the most I noted is how the apps launch quickier.
GPE doesn't have Moto Camera and Gallery, so no HDR and slowmo (Not in google camera, not in aosp camera). That's a bummer.
But that doesn't have really to do with Lollipop. Now, the notifications. There's no silent mode (well, there is NONE but goodbye alarms and LED notification!). So there is priority mode.
The apps set their priority themselves, so it's kinda useless. You use priority mode, it still rings for WhatsApp. Even if isn't set as priority, and I tried turning priority on and off on Per-app notification settings.
Worst of all is that on Stock Unrooted 4.4.4 the notification was already somehow crippled. Without a Xposed Module you couldn't set different volumes for ringtone and notification sounds. Most OEMs add that option.
Also, no dropdown on the volume bar that pops up when you press the volume rocker. OEMs usually add that too.
Heads-Up Notifications. Yeah, that's cool not having whole screen pop up a call when you trying to do something. But again, every app set its priority and you get heads up that can't let you see the status bar properly all the time. You get no ticker, I really loved that way to read notifications. Very uninstrusive.
I had sound bugs on some games on 5.0 moto, I don't have them on 5.0.1, however there's an app that launches so slow on 5.0.1 and it doesn't multitask at all (only on that app). As long as you leave it, gets killed.
Didn't happen on 4.4.4.
There's also more other annoyances you know, or even I maybe don't remember right now. But all my expectations for Lollipop got crushed.
Rollback to 4.4.4 is possible, however you get that screen flicker, easily fixable by locking and unlocking the device. However, it appears on reboot again.
I'm honestly waiting for a PERMANENT solution to the flicker and I think I'm going back to 4.4.4 right away.
Anyways it's a shame they f'd up so hard, when the system is all-around fast, responsive, and stable. But VERY unintuitive, and adds/remove features without letting you choose like it's common on Android.

hopefully , he jumps something new mistakes , just step in kitkat arise , but the frustration we generate ourselves for such a yearning for the arrival of 5.0 . in general I do not return to 4.4.4 even taking the gpe 5.0 . anger correcting everything , now they release to the United States and Europe will come firmwere many developments with the new boot and see cyanogenmos with the new boot , so you can not ask for much
sorry for mi bad inglish

The interruptions system is kind of weird,i'll give you that.
I haven't messed around with priority mode,as the only time i turn down my sound is when i go to school in which i have my phone in my pocket so i don't really need the LED.
Aside from that i had compatibility issues with some apps,mainly whatsapp and spotify.
Whatsapp crashes constantly when you're setting it up,but after that its mostly fine.
Spotify just decides to not open sometimes,or open very slowly,or delete you entire downloaded song archive,it's annoying but i can bear it till an update comes i suppose.
One problem i had with the brazil 5.0 was that there was no mobile data quick toggle,when you pressed it on toggles screen it just took you to mobile data settings but that's fixed in 5.0.1 GPE.
Well,aside from the priority mode which imo just needs some tinkering with on google's end,these are very minor and simple problems that can and will be fixed.
I wouldn't call this a "fiasco" not even close,lollipop is so much faster than KK especially when you're multitasking.It just flies.
It seems like you were expecting too much from the whole thing.

Not a fiasco at all, but I agree that the priority mode needs to be improved, there's no way to put it in 'silent but with alarm' if some apps are in the 'priority list'.
Also, I'm waiting for someone to make a Moto Camera zip too. With the apk and the needed libraries it should work.
I miss HDR, and slow-mo is a cool feature.

What u want from lollipop? You thought your phone will evolve MotoX or nexus6 when you install lollipop? Google not offered too much thing about lollipop. Watch presentation of lollipop. Only talked about good battery performance and material design.
Sent from my XT1033 using XDA Free mobile app

xDAPO said:
What u want from lollipop? You thought your phone will evolve MotoX or nexus6 when you install lollipop? Google not offered too much thing about lollipop. Watch presentation of lollipop. Only talked about good battery performance and material design.
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Which is pretty good for an update imo.
The system is much faster and much easier to use now.

maxxblade said:
The interruptions system is kind of weird,i'll give you that.
I haven't messed around with priority mode,as the only time i turn down my sound is when i go to school in which i have my phone in my pocket so i don't really need the LED.
Aside from that i had compatibility issues with some apps,mainly whatsapp and spotify.
Whatsapp crashes constantly when you're setting it up,but after that its mostly fine.
Spotify just decides to not open sometimes,or open very slowly,or delete you entire downloaded song archive,it's annoying but i can bear it till an update comes i suppose.
One problem i had with the brazil 5.0 was that there was no mobile data quick toggle,when you pressed it on toggles screen it just took you to mobile data settings but that's fixed in 5.0.1 GPE.
Well,aside from the priority mode which imo just needs some tinkering with on google's end,these are very minor and simple problems that can and will be fixed.
I wouldn't call this a "fiasco" not even close,lollipop is so much faster than KK especially when you're multitasking.It just flies.
It seems like you were expecting too much from the whole thing.
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xDAPO said:
What u want from lollipop? You thought your phone will evolve MotoX or nexus6 when you install lollipop? Google not offered too much thing about lollipop. Watch presentation of lollipop. Only talked about good battery performance and material design.
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All I want is to mute the phone completely, no sound, no vibration, still see the led and the alarms ringing as normal..
KK could.

ianx47 said:
All I want is to mute the phone completely, no sound, no vibration, still see the led and the alarms ringing as normal..
KK could.
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It's a simple fix,google will probably take care of it with 5.0.2/5.1 in a few months.
And even until then somebody will definitely make an unofficial fix.

"Fiasco"?
Bit of a storm in a teacup, all these lollipop gripes, hmm? It's barely out of Beta, and everyone's up in arms... wow... I'm certain these fixes will come, but the question is, how patiently will people wait for them?

Lollipop is by far the best release Google has ever done. Holy sour grapes OP. Google gives us Android for free.

xDAPO said:
What u want from lollipop? You thought your phone will evolve MotoX or nexus6 when you install lollipop? Google not offered too much thing about lollipop. Watch presentation of lollipop. Only talked about good battery performance and material design.
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Some of these exclusions and inclusions of features are present on the nexus too, so this really is not an issue of hardware but more to the OS. It sucks because lollipop is supposed to have offered better FUNCTIONALITY and FEATURES on its stock offering and now we're here. it kinda sucks in some department (not owing anything to the moto g's hardware)

Blah blah blah. People were going on like this when Kitkat first came out "JELLYBEAN WAS WAY BETTER" "KITKAT SUCKS CUZ IT REMOVED X FEATURE THAT JELLYBEAN HAD AND DOES THINGS DIFFERENT!"
This thread needs to be closed.

Cupcake (1.5) geeks: "Can't WAIT for Donut - HURRY UP GOOGLE!"
Donut (1.6) geeks: "Can't WAIT for Donut - it's gonna be awesome... HURRY UP GOOGLE!"
And so, throughout the years, each impatient nerd with a slightly obsessive bent towards new and shiny, kept, and keeps on, repeating the "I can't wait for X.X release, my phone is looking old and stale and <blah>"
Android 4.0 was (supposedly) going to change the world, the way people waffled on about it and obsessed over it's release. Then it was 4.1... then the "best" version was suddenly decided to be 4.2.2, then they said KitKat was going to be "revolutionary" or other such hyperbole. The same thing happens all over the tech world - people couldn't wait for DVD to come along and render VHS to landfill (we still use VHS in our house, daily), then it was HD-DVD vs BLU-RAY, then BLU-RAY "won", and it was decided that DVDs would never again be "good enough". Next, it was the moronic, gimmicky obsession with everything 3D... then, suddenly, once "The Industry" had "officially" stated that "3D is dead", it was like a switch had been turned off on the backs of consumer's necks (the mass consumption switch)... now it's 4K, and everyone thinks 1080p "isn't good enough" or is "low res", and in a few years 8K will be seen to be "superior"... this cycle of sheer, unconsidered madness isn't likely to end very soon at all.
Unless ALL you do with your smart phones and tablets is tap UI elements all day to see how shiny and fluid they are, it REALLY isn't all that relevant which version you are on, UNLESS you have severe, mission-critical bugs and lack of features which cost you time and money (unlikely, for most of you, if you were brutally honest with yourselves). You wanna know why you're all so "disappointed"? You work yourselves up into a frenzy, and set your expectations unrealistically high, and when the reality doesn't meet your overblown expectations, the internet goes into meltdown and starts ranting... LMAO.
Here's the day I'll cheer Google - when they abandon Java... UGH - what a horror.
It's just another release... it's coming, and yeah - it's great, but come ON - get off your bums and go and do something else apart from obsessing over it - there's SO much more fulfilment to be had from life

ianx47 said:
All I want is to mute the phone completely, no sound, no vibration, still see the led and the alarms ringing as normal..
KK could.
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try setting it to vibrate then upping the volume by only one click. on some nexus devices it results in the muted state you require, at least worth a try

gnubash said:
Cupcake (1.5) geeks: "Can't WAIT for Donut - HURRY UP GOOGLE!"
Donut (1.6) geeks: "Can't WAIT for Donut - it's gonna be awesome... HURRY UP GOOGLE!"
And so, throughout the years, each impatient nerd with a slightly obsessive bent towards new and shiny, kept, and keeps on, repeating the "I can't wait for X.X release, my phone is looking old and stale and <blah>"
Android 4.0 was (supposedly) going to change the world, the way people waffled on about it and obsessed over it's release. Then it was 4.1... then the "best" version was suddenly decided to be 4.2.2, then they said KitKat was going to be "revolutionary" or other such hyperbole. The same thing happens all over the tech world - people couldn't wait for DVD to come along and render VHS to landfill (we still use VHS in our house, daily), then it was HD-DVD vs BLU-RAY, then BLU-RAY "won", and it was decided that DVDs would never again be "good enough". Next, it was the moronic, gimmicky obsession with everything 3D... then, suddenly, once "The Industry" had "officially" stated that "3D is dead", it was like a switch had been turned off on the backs of consumer's necks (the mass consumption switch)... now it's 4K, and everyone thinks 1080p "isn't good enough" or is "low res", and in a few years 8K will be seen to be "superior"... this cycle of sheer, unconsidered madness isn't likely to end very soon at all.
Unless ALL you do with your smart phones and tablets is tap UI elements all day to see how shiny and fluid they are, it REALLY isn't all that relevant which version you are on, UNLESS you have severe, mission-critical bugs and lack of features which cost you time and money (unlikely, for most of you, if you were brutally honest with yourselves). You wanna know why you're all so "disappointed"? You work yourselves up into a frenzy, and set your expectations unrealistically high, and when the reality doesn't meet your overblown expectations, the internet goes into meltdown and starts ranting... LMAO.
Here's the day I'll cheer Google - when they abandon Java... UGH - what a horror.
It's just another release... it's coming, and yeah - it's great, but come ON - get off your bums and go and do something else apart from obsessing over it - there's SO much more fulfilment to be had from life
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I appreciate your point about the non-essential features like animations and new design, and believe me. I'm not like that. I'm way more focused on functionality than design. To give you an idea, on my desktop PC i have disabled all the OS animations, because most of the time my pc does things faster than the animation itself on daily light workloads (you know, SSDs..).
And on Android, until now, I've always disable animations or turning them into 0.5x scale, because I felt like they were kinda a waste of time, though pretty, I like the snapiness.
Maybe I was a little tough on Lollipop, but when you can't do something on a new release that you could on a previous release, that's kind of bad.. and I mean basic things like having your phone not interrupting but showing a LED light.
I kinda like the idea of Priority and interruptions on Lollipop, however, if you filter something as not priority, it doesn't use the LED light. How exactly is a led light blinking an interruption?.

Led fix
To enable led notifications, install Notification light widget from Motorola in the play store.
Then put the widget in the home screen, enable it and finally you can uninstall it.
It worked on Kit Kat, but surely will work on lollipop too.

5.1.1 Existence has been leaked, what do we want?

So 5.1.1 was leaked on a Google Dev page today (Source)
What would we want to see in this Lollipop update for the N6 seeming we know nothing about whats coming?
Me personally? A bit better battery life (I think the second .1 indicates new kernel?) and to clean up some of the bugs.

exekias said:
So 5.1.1 was leaked on a Google Dev page today (Source)
What would we want to see in this Lollipop update for the N6 seeming we know nothing about whats coming?
Me personally? A bit better battery life (I think the second .1 indicates new kernel?) and to clean up some of the bugs.
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probably nothing beneficial for the N6... looks like it's only going to be for the N7 and N9... much like the 5.0.2 release was never "official" for the N6.

If its truly LMY47S, then it is not really 5.1.1.
That has the same build date code as 5.1.

I want faster responding sensors. Auto dimming, proximity sensor for phone calls sped up. Damn thing takes forever! As does auto rotate.

Want a rocketship for blasting off to Mars! Seems my Nexus6 has about everything else!

I'd like my battery to last over 9000 minutes of screen on time.

Three wishes, and none of them for an iPhone, M9, or S6.

Better battery optimization, improved camera and radio, and ability to switch to a dark Material theme.

Performance improvement for Camera, Dialer and occasional dropped frames in animations.

I would like google to unlock the notification led xD
Faster booting up and more options when shutting down.
Screen resolution options.
That's it for now, only had it for 2 days. Still learning about lollipop, I came from an galaxy s3.

Sexy wallpaper

- Notification lights back by default (non-rooted)
- (Better) hardware encryption for faster boot-up

Fix the carkit a2dp crashing when connected to a Bluetooth low energy device. I should not have to put my moto 360 in airplane mode every time I drive my car...
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clear all recent apps button
double tap screen on and off like the lg g3

kidhudi said:
clear all recent apps button
double tap screen on and off like the lg g3
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To you and others in this thread - You're on XDA and many of the feature requests are available in most custom ROMs. "I don't run rooted ROMs" or "I'd like those features to be in stock ROM" will probably be your reply, to which I will say, why are you commenting on a developer / Android customization forum?

kidhudi said:
clear all recent apps button
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Why would Google implement something that is unnecessary and could cause problems? There hasn't been any need to close apps for quite a few iterations of android (actually an understatement)

With all these 'new' versions I find it interesting that N7 seems to be the problem child they can't get right.

I just want WiFi calling
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8Fishes said:
With all these 'new' versions I find it interesting that N7 seems to be the problem child they can't get right.
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Well it's using a tegra chip. All other nexus are using Qualcomm chips. Minus the 9 which is also late to the party.

The N6 is already a great device. What would make it stand above the rest is for it to be natively as smooth and lag free as the N5 is and to add some minor battery life improvements.

Wanting KitKat on N6. Crazy?

I can't be the only one not enjoying lollipop. I feel like it's been dumbed down, had features scrubbed, just horrible experience.
Google and AOSP thrived on customization and user experience. I feel that 5.0 and 5.1 are a step away from that. I'm not even an "early adaptor" this far into the release, yet I feel like a beta tester. Random reboots, Webview crashing tons of apps, I can't use Firefox or Chrome for 10 minutes without a crash, Xposed being dysfunctional. The "interruptions" function is unintuitive. Aesthetically I feel JB and Kk were superior in almost all regards.
I support developers when I can, I want to do nothing but further the Android cause. I can't code so I "buy a beer" for the guys that can occasionally. But each day I'm less and less optimistic about androids future.
Idroid, here we come.
Am I crazy or does anyone else want their 4.4 back as much as I do?

I haven't had any of those problems on 5.0 or 5.1. Are you using a custom ROM or just stock?

ffchampmt said:
I can't be the only one not enjoying lollipop. I feel like it's been dumbed down, had features scrubbed, just horrible experience.
Google and AOSP thrived on customization and user experience. I feel that 5.0 and 5.1 are a step away from that. I'm not even an "early adaptor" this far into the release, yet I feel like a beta tester. Random reboots, Webview crashing tons of apps, I can't use Firefox or Chrome for 10 minutes without a crash, Xposed being dysfunctional. The "interruptions" function is unintuitive. Aesthetically I feel JB and Kk were superior in almost all regards.
I support developers when I can, I want to do nothing but further the Android cause. I can't code so I "buy a beer" for the guys that can occasionally. But each day I'm less and less optimistic about androids future.
Idroid, here we come.
Am I crazy or does anyone else want their 4.4 back as much as I do?
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The hell you talking about? Lollipop has been rock solid for me. What features were removed? And if you're using Xposed, that's probably your problem-- it's an ALPHA.

These are from a mix of stock and Euphoria. It seemed like the amount of work by devs that went into 4.0+ OS was incredible. Now it's echo chamber reassurances of its better, it's better, so smooth, look at material design. *sip green koolaid*
It feels as if the blind notion of "if it's apple it's great" is engulfing android. I want more devs, more AOSP projects, originality.
I am soapboxing a little here but I digress.
I am dissatisfied with the visual and functional direction android is going and want to head back to Kitkat.
Sent from my Verizon Nexus 6 running Euphoria

Jaspah said:
The hell you talking about? Lollipop has been rock solid for me. What features were removed? And if you're using Xposed, that's probably your problem-- it's an ALPHA.
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One example. My vibration strength for hepatic feedback and phone ring are linked. I'd like my phone to vibrate on 100% but my key presses to be about 40%. Quick toggle shortcuts are mangled. Lockscreen notification is not on a per app basis.
Forced encryption is an unnecessary tool for most users. If your phone gets turned off after being lost a person who finds it has no owner information. Would device manager even be able to remote lock and erase?
The reason I threw in Xposed dysfunction is because it worked on 4.4. It was a reason I wanted to retreat back to my Kitkat.
Sent from my Verizon Nexus 6 running Euphoria

ffchampmt said:
One example. My vibration strength for hepatic feedback and phone ring are linked. I'd like my phone to vibrate on 100% but my key presses to be about 40%. Quick toggle shortcuts are mangled. Lockscreen notification is not on a per app basis.
Forced encryption is an unnecessary tool for most users. If your phone gets turned off after being lost a person who finds it has no owner information. Would device manager even be able to remote lock and erase?
The reason I threw in Xposed dysfunction is because it worked on 4.4. It was a reason I wanted to retreat back to my Kitkat.
Sent from my Verizon Nexus 6 running Euphoria
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For the encryption, your owner info appears on the password/pattern page when the device is turned on. I can't comment on the vibration cause I can't even feel it at 100%.

ffchampmt said:
One example. My vibration strength for hepatic feedback and phone ring are linked. I'd like my phone to vibrate on 100% but my key presses to be about 40%. Quick toggle shortcuts are mangled. Lockscreen notification is not on a per app basis.
Forced encryption is an unnecessary tool for most users. If your phone gets turned off after being lost a person who finds it has no owner information. Would device manager even be able to remote lock and erase?
The reason I threw in Xposed dysfunction is because it worked on 4.4. It was a reason I wanted to retreat back to my Kitkat.
Sent from my Verizon Nexus 6 running Euphoria
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A lot of your complaints in this post also are not addressed in stock KitKat. Sounds more like you miss a particular custom experience.
I've heard of these webview crashes but not once had one. Which seems weird because as a software developer I abuse my phone regularly.
The encryption is more useful with malicious software or network attacks.

ffchampmt said:
One example. My vibration strength for hepatic feedback and phone ring are linked. I'd like my phone to vibrate on 100% but my key presses to be about 40%. Quick toggle shortcuts are mangled. Lockscreen notification is not on a per app basis.
Forced encryption is an unnecessary tool for most users. If your phone gets turned off after being lost a person who finds it has no owner information. Would device manager even be able to remote lock and erase?
The reason I threw in Xposed dysfunction is because it worked on 4.4. It was a reason I wanted to retreat back to my Kitkat.
Sent from my Verizon Nexus 6 running Euphoria
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Well seems like you are the only one missing kitkat so if anything sell your nexus 6 and get you an older phone that's still running kitkat while the rest of us enjoy our lollipop.

Jaspah said:
The hell you talking about? Lollipop has been rock solid for me. What features were removed? And if you're using Xposed, that's probably your problem-- it's an ALPHA.
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Lmao only reason i would want kit kat is for the roms.......miui for example

adrynalyne said:
Sounds more like you miss a particular custom experience.
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Exactly my point. Lollipop ain't cutting it in terms of customization.
I guess it is just me then. [emoji58] I'll just have live with it until gravity box or something of its sort comes along.
Sent from my Verizon Nexus 6 running Euphoria

ffchampmt said:
Exactly my point. Lollipop ain't cutting it in terms of customization.
I guess it is just me then. [emoji58] I'll just have live with it until gravity box or something of its sort comes along.
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Or you could customize it yourself. Thats how most rom modders get started. What it comes down to is not that you miss Kitkat, but that you want years of development in a shorter time.

I would also like to try a kitkat rom as i still have multiple apps and games that are not compatable with Lolipop.
Surprised we haven't seen a rom. Since certain (rare) N6 actually shipped with 4.4.4

Hand76 said:
I would also like to try a kitkat rom as i still have multiple apps and games that are not compatable with Lolipop.
Surprised we haven't seen a rom. Since certain (rare) N6 actually shipped with 4.4.4
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Yeah and they didn't work because they had been flashed with the wrong image.
http://www.droidmatters.com/news/at...ne-running-android-kitkat-wrong-model-number/
See the baseband unknown and no signal bars? Thats why nobody bothered. It wasn't Kitkat built for the Nexus 6. XT1080 is the Droid Ultra. This was an early early testing build.

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Yeah and they didn't work because they had been flashed with the wrong image.
http://www.droidmatters.com/news/at...ne-running-android-kitkat-wrong-model-number/
See the baseband unknown and no signal bars? Thats why nobody bothered. It wasn't Kitkat built for the Nexus 6. XT1080 is the Droid Ultra.
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Interesting that explains that. So guess it's not going to happen

Hand76 said:
Interesting that explains that. So guess it's not going to happen
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Probably not. The early debug build found would have worked, if the binaries were correct. As you could see in the video and pic, the binaries were not correct. Without that as a starting point, it gets really hard to port it. Its one thing to use Kitkat binaries in Lollipop, but another to use Lollipop binaries in Kitkat.

I honestly think in every aspect, Lollipop is so much better than previous versions of Android. For once, most things follow a specific design, and even apps are following it. That is the one thing I hated about owning an Android phone, one app looks this way and another looks that way, menu coming from the left, some have a menu coming from the right, it was just all over the place. I love how sleek Lollipop looks and honestly, the stuff CM12.1 has right now is great. Maybe I'm not into customizing the crap of the phones like I used to be, maybe that's why I'm satisfied. I remember when I owned a Vibrant I'd even change the bootsounds, boot animation, font, and all this other stuff. Now, I'm content with having some customizations but having a stable ROM with great battery life is priority for me.

Lollipop blows KitKat away...
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ffchampmt said:
I can't be the only one not enjoying lollipop. I feel like it's been dumbed down, had features scrubbed, just horrible experience.
Google and AOSP thrived on customization and user experience. I feel that 5.0 and 5.1 are a step away from that. I'm not even an "early adaptor" this far into the release, yet I feel like a beta tester. Random reboots, Webview crashing tons of apps, I can't use Firefox or Chrome for 10 minutes without a crash, Xposed being dysfunctional. The "interruptions" function is unintuitive. Aesthetically I feel JB and Kk were superior in almost all regards.
I support developers when I can, I want to do nothing but further the Android cause. I can't code so I "buy a beer" for the guys that can occasionally. But each day I'm less and less optimistic about androids future.
Idroid, here we come.
Am I crazy or does anyone else want their 4.4 back as much as I do?
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Those issues are definitely not normal, and I'm betting you have hardware issues as the root cause. Bad RAM, the "hard drive", or something is causing it. 5.1 has been perfect for me with none of those issues.
Hardware issues can be just as common as software. I don't know why people always blame software without even considering it to be hardware. The manufacturing process is not perfect either.

Stock is stable and user experience is what Nexus are meant to be.

I'm enjoying it. I've found cyanogenmod based roms seem to have the most customization. Benzo is really stable. I haven't owned anything besides the Turbo and the N6 since the original droid incredible days so maybe I missed the glory days of kitkat.

Which ROM is best for me: had CM11 on N5, just got N6p

I recently got a Nexus 6p. I was very happy with CyanogenMod 11 on my Nexus 5, and the various features that it offered, aside from the occasional bug here or there. Can anyone please tell me which custom ROM for a Nexus 6p (currently running the latest stock ROM 6.0.1) would be most like the CM 11 ROM on the Nexus 5, but for the Nexus 6p, with the added features of the most current stock marshmallow ROM build? I was considering Resurrection Remix. But from the installation instructions I found, it seems like I need to be on lollipop in order to install it?
Thank you for any information or advice anyone can offer!

If you have had a Nexus 5 and you stayed under kitkat (CM11) until now then I recommend you to keep the stock software.

I would just go straight to N Preview 3. Works like a charm for me.
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anmar21 said:
If you have had a Nexus 5 and you stayed under kitkat (CM11) until now then I recommend you to keep the stock software.
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Um... thanks? Not sure why you would suggest that (if it's even a serious suggestion and you're not just trying to be a smart-ass).
Stock marshmallow clearly has far fewer customizations and offers way less in the way of quick management features. I stuck with CM11 because it did everything I needed, and for the most part, I didn't have to do any upgrading after that because any issues I encountered were tolerable. One of my favorite features of CM11 was the customization of the quick launch notification bar. The marshmallow notification pull down shortcuts are heavily lacking.
Also, the auto brightness on stock marshmallow is terrible. I regularly need to adjust the brightness level manually in order for the automatic brightness to make the screen either dim enough, in dark areas, or bright enough, when outside in daylight.
I also really dislike all of the black text on white background menus for everything. Would much rather have a dark theme. And not having the ability to customize quite a few other features is very frustrating after being accustomed to the numerous customizations that CM11 offered.
If anyone else has any legitimate and helpful advice or information on a good custom ROM that offers these features, customizations, or improvements, please let me know.

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Um... thanks? Not sure why you would suggest that (if it's even a serious suggestion and you're not just trying to be a smart-ass).
Stock marshmallow clearly has far fewer customizations and offers way less in the way of quick management features. I stuck with CM11 because it did everything I needed, and for the most part, I didn't have to do any upgrading after that because any issues I encountered were tolerable. One of my favorite features of CM11 was the customization of the quick launch notification bar. The marshmallow notification pull down shortcuts are heavily lacking.
Also, the auto brightness on stock marshmallow is terrible. I regularly need to adjust the brightness level manually in order for the automatic brightness to make the screen either dim enough, in dark areas, or bright enough, when outside in daylight.
I also really dislike all of the black text on white background menus for everything. Would much rather have a dark theme. And not having the ability to customize quite a few other features is very frustrating after being accustomed to the numerous customizations that CM11 offered.
If anyone else has any legitimate and helpful advice or information on a good custom ROM that offers these features, customizations, or improvements, please let me know.
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he told to stay in stock as you didnt update to cm13 on n5.... btw you may try dirty unicorn. i tried using cm on n6p but i found it buggy so moved on to dirty unicorn, stable so far.

leveleyed said:
Um... thanks? Not sure why you would suggest that (if it's even a serious suggestion and you're not just trying to be a smart-ass).
Stock marshmallow clearly has far fewer customizations and offers way less in the way of quick management features. I stuck with CM11 because it did everything I needed, and for the most part, I didn't have to do any upgrading after that because any issues I encountered were tolerable. One of my favorite features of CM11 was the customization of the quick launch notification bar. The marshmallow notification pull down shortcuts are heavily lacking.
Also, the auto brightness on stock marshmallow is terrible. I regularly need to adjust the brightness level manually in order for the automatic brightness to make the screen either dim enough, in dark areas, or bright enough, when outside in daylight.
I also really dislike all of the black text on white background menus for everything. Would much rather have a dark theme. And not having the ability to customize quite a few other features is very frustrating after being accustomed to the numerous customizations that CM11 offered.
If anyone else has any legitimate and helpful advice or information on a good custom ROM that offers these features, customizations, or improvements, please let me know.
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I wasn't trying to play a role. I thought you didn't know how to upgrade and that's why you stayed with an outdated software for so long. IMHO running CM11 is not the wisest idea if you value security - when was the last update BTW?
If you're happy with CM then go with CM13.

This is clearly a cleverly disguised comparison thread. Which are against the rules.
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ar21;67169820]I wasn't trying to play a role. I thought you didn't know how to upgrade and that's why you stayed with an outdated software for so long. IMHO running CM11 is not the wisest idea if you value security - when was the last update BTW?
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No, I knew how to upgrade. I just had enough working properly with my phone that I stopped upgrading the OS and pretty much any app unless I saw some great value or feature to be added with an upgrade. Security updates typically don't concern me as I don't do much with my phone that security is much of an issue. I'm far more concerned with stability. And in my years of working as a sound designer and audio/music engineer, I've learned that upgrades can often be far more of a headache than they are worth. Many audio engineers still use software from a decade ago just because it works for everything they need it to do and doesn't cause any problems. Just one small example: after recently getting a Motorola 360 SmartWatch, I was forced to upgrade several Google apps on my N5, which resulted in a number of undesired behaviors and changes, new bugs, and features that actually worked a lot worse than before, such as Google's voice to text feature. I used to have no problem with it properly recognizing my speech and translating my dictation to text. But ever since that was upgraded, it has been riddled with problems, like often inserting the wrong word (something that sounds almost nothing like what I said), inserting the word "comma" or "Kama" instead of an actual ",", randomly capitalizing words in the middle of sentences, and persistently failing to do a number of other things properly. And I know that this wasn't the result of running an older OS because I still experience the same frustrating behavior with the voice to text feature on my Nexus 6p right OOTB with the latest stock marshmallow build.
Another annoying "upgrade" is the change to how editing text works. It used to be a long press on text would show all the options to select all, copy, cut, or paste across the top of the screen. But now instead get a pop-up menu that requires an additional click to show the option to select all, and then after doing so the menu changes (in this forum at least) to show select all, assist, translate, and what looks like a backspace (that I can only assume will delete everything I have selected). Yet another chapter in the book of "how to fail in releasing updates".

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This is clearly a cleverly disguised comparison thread. Which are against the rules.
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I'm not trying to make any comparisons between ROMs. Just trying to figure out which one has the features that I want for my Nexus 6p, and would be the best to install based on my current stock OS, since as far as I could from reading the installation instructions, Resurrection Remix would require me to be running a different OS in order to do the installation.

I've been running cm13 since I got my 6p. No problems at all. If you want to avoid any instabilities then stick to the CM13 snapshot builds.
I don't know if you've tries CM13 but it has many awesome features. A lot of improvements to the notification toggles as well.
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omvir said:
I've been running cm13 since I got my 6p. No problems at all. If you want to avoid any instabilities then stick to the CM13 snapshot builds.
I don't know if you've tries CM13 but it has many awesome features. A lot of improvements to the notification toggles as well.
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Okay cool. That's sort of what I was hoping to hear. I generally tend to stick with what I know and what works once I find something. Was just concerned about the newer version being stable. Was hoping I get some honest feedback about it without fishing for it directly.

OEM skin/software

Are you comfortable in your own skin? Is your phone comfortable in its skin? Rate this thread to express how you deem the skin on the OnePlus 6. A higher rating indicates that you love it: it adds just the right amount of features, it's visually pleasing, and overall it's additive to the experience. If this is a Nexus phone (you didn't think we hand-wrote all of these prompts, did you?) then use this rating to indicate how the latest version of Android looks to you.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

I find the OS overall to be buggy, outdated, featureless and overall full of patches and fixes that is now the OS that cracker jack built.
At this price point a far better OS is to be expected

floridaman said:
I find the OS overall to be buggy, outdated, featureless and overall full of patches and fixes that is now the OS that cracker jack built.
At this price point a far better OS is to be expected
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Then next time, buy a OnePlus phone instead of an iPhone :good:

floridaman said:
I find the OS overall to be buggy, outdated, featureless and overall full of patches and fixes that is now the OS that cracker jack built.
At this price point a far better OS is to be expected
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Have you tried to update your device to the latest version and then do a factory reset?

Donnie Sins said:
Then next time, buy a OnePlus phone instead of an iPhone :good:
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What are you babbling about? I have a OnePlus 6 already, this is posted to that thread. Reading along with reading comprehension works wonders before posting at a poor attempt at snark. No bugger off and wake up to yourself.
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Have you tried to update your device to the latest version and then do a factory reset?
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Yes, already had to do that because of not only regular issues that still persist but woke up one day where I kept getting warnings my entire storage was used even though I only have used about 5gb out of the 50+gb available. I've seen some postings of others having the same issue.
I still have issues with networking where it doesn't want to reconnect to the network after losing signal and I have to use the airplane mode on/off. It's a known issue to them and they told me they're still working on a fix even though they supposedly pushed one out in the last update.
I've in essence told them already they need to start from scratch with a new OS instead of patching this to work on one model to another which it clearly doesn't. I mean it doesn't even have a slider just for notifications volume, they told me it takes time to code for it. I said people have been complaining for one for 3 years, how much time does one need.
I feel this phone is all hype, great specs but no substance behind the hardware.

I have personally never had this problem and prefer OOS to Lineage, touchwiz and any aosp Rom. It is also very good with battery once you have the right configurations and if you turn down the time it takes for animations to 0.5 or 0.25x it just shows how extremely fast and snappy the device and how good in my opinion OOS is.

echo246 said:
I have personally never had this problem and prefer OOS to Lineage, touchwiz and any aosp Rom. It is also very good with battery once you have the right configurations and if you turn down the time it takes for animations to 0.5 or 0.25x it just shows how extremely fast and snappy the device and how good in my opinion OOS is.
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You should count yourself lucky, you haven't had the network problem like the rest of us because it is quite annoying.
I have no issue with the battery life, but then I don't clutter my phone with nonsensical apps either. I have no need to turn down the animations either, I have no complaints about it being "snappy and fast" but being snappy and fast has no bearing on the other issues within the software. You can make any phone snappy and fast, but the coding can still be a mess. And the phone does have a latency issue which is apparently even more noticeable in the 3rd beta as there were people complaining about it.
Touchwiz is just a joke and should not be used as a comparison to anything. To be honest I would rather go back to Asus and deal with their limited updates then this mess. No OS is without some problems somewhere, but at least Asus works correctly 90% of the time and is updated to 2018 instead of being an OS from 2012.

Or you can just do a fresh install of OOS 5.1.11 and unlock it and install xxxnolimits and radioactive kernel like me or flash lineage 15.1.

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Or you can just do a fresh install of OOS 5.1.11 and unlock it and install xxxnolimits and radioactive kernel like me or flash lineage 15.1.
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I've already done that, why do you keep telling me to do things like it's my first device?
I don't root and flash anymore, I want something that works when I hand over my money. I'm not loyal to any brand or a fanboy to any brand and if I see something I don't like I make it known, if it doesn't get fixed I walk with my money. The fact that every solution is install a 3rd party app or root your phone and install this or that is not a solution to the underlying problem. OP better step up or they'll go the way of the Blu phones, all hype in the beginning now they're not even a blip on the radar.
If having to flash this or that, install this and that works for you on this device, that's great it however doesn't for me. But that just tells me because you've had to do all that, the OS isn't really up to par. Good luck with your phone and I'm happy you're happy with it.

Seems like you just got unlucky
I have the 128gb 8gb variant and I think you mentioned you had the 64gb variant. I was just trying to help sorry I couldn't.

floridaman said:
What are you babbling about? I have a OnePlus 6 already, this is posted to that thread. Reading along with reading comprehension works wonders before posting at a poor attempt at snark. No bugger off and wake up to yourself.
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Relax, it wasn't meant as bad as it may look Just kidding. Sorry to hear you have such problems, my device performs just excellent.

floridaman said:
Yes, already had to do that because of not only regular issues that still persist but woke up one day where I kept getting warnings my entire storage was used even though I only have used about 5gb out of the 50+gb available. I've seen some postings of others having the same issue.
I still have issues with networking where it doesn't want to reconnect to the network after losing signal and I have to use the airplane mode on/off. It's a known issue to them and they told me they're still working on a fix even though they supposedly pushed one out in the last update.
I've in essence told them already they need to start from scratch with a new OS instead of patching this to work on one model to another which it clearly doesn't. I mean it doesn't even have a slider just for notifications volume, they told me it takes time to code for it. I said people have been complaining for one for 3 years, how much time does one need.
I feel this phone is all hype, great specs but no substance behind the hardware.
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Although I root my devices day one and have no issues with my OP6 I totally agree with you.
I maintained buggy devices before. Customer supports standard answer is factory reset. Community answer is root and flash or install this or that. Out of the box many devices from different brands have lots of issues where I wonder how this could pass quality check. Loosing signal/ reconnecting issues for mobile and wifi, buggy silent mode, any pre installed (mostly the launcher) force closes, etc.
People keep asking me why I root my devices, what the benefit is. While some thinks are a real benefit (twrp, titanium backup, enhanced settings, ...) other mods are just there to overdraw the main rom bugs. And they become more.

floridaman said:
I've already done that, why do you keep telling me to do things like it's my first device?
I don't root and flash anymore, I want something that works when I hand over my money. I'm not loyal to any brand or a fanboy to any brand and if I see something I don't like I make it known, if it doesn't get fixed I walk with my money. The fact that every solution is install a 3rd party app or root your phone and install this or that is not a solution to the underlying problem. OP better step up or they'll go the way of the Blu phones, all hype in the beginning now they're not even a blip on the radar.
If having to flash this or that, install this and that works for you on this device, that's great it however doesn't for me. But that just tells me because you've had to do all that, the OS isn't really up to par. Good luck with your phone and I'm happy you're happy with it.
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Maybe because the problems you are mentioning are issues people that don't know what they are doing tend to have and the people that root and start installing stuff that can't read instructions properly. Honestly the problems you mention are rookie issues and or Fan Boys of other phones (Iphone anyone) and troll.
The OS is just fine. The OP5 and now the OP6 are the first android phones I've never had to install a custom ROM for. I root for TiBu and to install root apps. I also install a Kernel to increase vibration sensitivity and max volume levels. Buttery smooth, insane battery life and no complaints.

I'm running the OP6 64gb as well, and I've never had issues with the OS. It's pretty bare-bones (like it should be), since it opens the possibility to update to new OS updates extremely fast.
I've had high-end Samsung, LG, Sony, HTC, Xiaomi and Huawei, and so far OnePlus have been AMAZINGLY quick on updates and fixes for issues at hand.

The best I have seen so far really enjoy the dark mode option(both on my old oneplus 5)
The audio tuner is amazing with my headphones (classic with Sennheiser hd25)
feel a little smoother than my Oneplus 5 with Oxygen 9.03 but I its maybe a placebo
For improve I want more option for the file manager (smb 3 compatibility pls)
More widget out of the box weather and location especially
and change the design of the weather app
its look a little outdated

floridaman said:
What are you babbling about? I have a OnePlus 6 already, this is posted to that thread. Reading along with reading comprehension works wonders before posting at a poor attempt at snark. No bugger off and wake up to yourself.
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Yes, already had to do that because of not only regular issues that still persist but woke up one day where I kept getting warnings my entire storage was used even though I only have used about 5gb out of the 50+gb available. I've seen some postings of others having the same issue.
I still have issues with networking where it doesn't want to reconnect to the network after losing signal and I have to use the airplane mode on/off. It's a known issue to them and they told me they're still working on a fix even though they supposedly pushed one out in the last update.
I've in essence told them already they need to start from scratch with a new OS instead of patching this to work on one model to another which it clearly doesn't. I mean it doesn't even have a slider just for notifications volume, they told me it takes time to code for it. I said people have been complaining for one for 3 years, how much time does one need.
I feel this phone is all hype, great specs but no substance behind the hardware.
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True

floridaman said:
I find the OS overall to be buggy, outdated, featureless and overall full of patches and fixes that is now the OS that cracker jack built.
At this price point a far better OS is to be expected
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Hold on Guy.. Stop being Salty..

CYB3R0ID694 said:
Hold on Guy.. Stop being Salty..
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Hold yourself, stop being a twit

floridaman said:
Hold yourself, stop being a twit
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THEN WHAT ABOUT BUILD OWN OS & FIX THINGS BY OWN..
OR
HELP DEVELOPERS BY GIVING FEEDBACK & PROVIDING LOGCAT?
SOUNDS FUN?? ISN'T IT? :silly:

Donnie Sins said:
Then next time, buy a OnePlus phone instead of an iPhone :good:
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