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N7100 or N7105

I really have no idea but it appears the N7105 is international version with no LTE, at least that works with ATT. The N7100 is the model number with LTE that will work with ATT. Is this true? Negri Electronics is selling the N7100, the spec says "4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 2100". Does this work with ATT 4G LTE? Is this the model, if you want LTE, to buy?
I preordered from Negri a week ago, but definitely want LTE in U.S.so keep order or cancel? Many websites reference in specs LTE but others call for 2 models....anyone really know. Clove U.K. simply calls device Samsung Note 2, no reference to N7100 or N7105. It clearly doesn't show in specs 4G LTE, only 3G.Handtec (U.K.) calls out phone N7100 with the following spec:"3G: HSPA＋ 21Mbps (HSDPA 21Mbps / HSUPA 5.76Mbps) 4G LTE: 100Mbps/ 50Mbps (HDSPA 42Mbps / HSUPA 5.76Mbps)
So which is it? Does anyone know?

I am not sure, but in the fcc documents for the N7105 there's no mention of lte at all.
So I believe that the n7105 is the international without lte.
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If you live in the US, you want LTE. It's awesome in every respect. It's like having a FIOS line in the palm of your hand.

In Singapore, Note 1's model number is GT-N7000 while Note 1 LTE is GT-N7005. I do believe that Samsung's naming format for their international handsets doesn't differ from country to country. Therefore GT-N7105 is Note II LTE. just my educated guess.
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mix1987 said:
In Singapore, Note 1's model number is GT-N7000 while Note 1 LTE is GT-N7005. I do believe that Samsung's naming format for their international handsets doesn't differ from country to country. Therefore GT-N7105 is Note II LTE. just my educated guess.
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Correct! The models ending with 05 are LTE

nascar24usa said:
I really have no idea but it appears the N7105 is international version with no LTE, at least that works with ATT. The N7100 is the model number with LTE that will work with ATT. Is this true? Negri Electronics is selling the N7100, the spec says "4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 2100". Does this work with ATT 4G LTE? Is this the model, if you want LTE, to buy?
I preordered from Negri a week ago, but definitely want LTE in U.S.so keep order or cancel? Many websites reference in specs LTE but others call for 2 models....anyone really know. Clove U.K. simply calls device Samsung Note 2, no reference to N7100 or N7105. It clearly doesn't show in specs 4G LTE, only 3G.Handtec (U.K.) calls out phone N7100 with the following spec:"3G: HSPA＋ 21Mbps (HSDPA 21Mbps / HSUPA 5.76Mbps) 4G LTE: 100Mbps/ 50Mbps (HDSPA 42Mbps / HSUPA 5.76Mbps)
So which is it? Does anyone know?
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There are at least 5 different versions if not more. Although it is LTE capable, the version sold for England does not have a LTE chip, The German one does but it will not work on ATT. There are no LTE networks in Europe that I know about compatible with ATT LTE bands. If you buy one in Europe plan on using 3G and 2G on ATT. Make sure it has these bands:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
ATT uses 850 and 1900 for 2G and 3G. You need both.
To use ATT LTE you need a chip for this:
LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 1700 / 2100.

From what I can tell, even if you happen to buy out of country versions that are compatible for some LTE frequencies for example AT&T, it may not be as compatible as phones you would get from AT&T directly because of the mix and match LTE spectrums that AT&T and all other carriers have purchased. I'm guessing the days of importing International versions are over if you care about good LTE coverage.
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There are at least 5 different versions if not more. Although it is LTE capable, the version sold for England does not have a LTE chip, The German one does but it will not work on ATT. There are no LTE networks in Europe that I know about compatible with ATT LTE bands. If you buy one in Europe plan on using 3G and 2G on ATT. Make sure it has these bands:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
ATT uses 850 and 1900 for 2G and 3G. You need both.
To use ATT LTE you need a chip for this:
LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 1700 / 2100.
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Negri lists as follows:
Negri Electronics (Las Vegas) pre order lists the Note 2 as follows:
3G/4G bands 850 , 900 , 1900 , 2100
DATA GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
Speed HSDPA, 21 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps; LTE, Cat3, 50 Mbps UL, 100 Mbps
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 2100
If accurate, this will work with ATT LTE, yes?

here is the lte version from hk web site but not yet official by samsung.
http://www.price.com.hk/product.php?p=145083

according to what you can read here : http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3807&c=samsung_gt-n7105_galaxy_note_ii_lte_32gb
N7105 is LTE for LTE2600 (B7) and LTE800 (B20). Those frequencies have choosen for LTE in France

I wonder if the Korean LTE one released today will work in uk when our 4g is up and running. Anyone know?

lawtq said:
I wonder if the Korean LTE one released today will work in uk when our 4g is up and running. Anyone know?
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Unfortunately not. I believe that South Korean LTE is on 1800MHz. Post auction UK LTE frequencies are 800MHz and 2600MHz (these are the bands to be auctioned off before the end of 2012). However, it will likely work on EE's Interim LTE network.
Everything Everywhere will launch an 'interim 4G' solution, running LTE on some of its unused 1800MHz spectrum (from the T-Mobile/Orange Merger). This will be rolled out to 16 cities before the end of the year. EE 4G is up and running as we speak, but only for dongles, and one cannot yet buy a phone on contract from them.
Aside from that, O2 and Vodafone have lots of spectrum at 900MHz, depending on what they secure at 800MHz, they might ask ofcom to allow them to run LTE on 900MHz, likely siting ofcoms agreement to allow EE to run LTE on 1800MHz as ammunition!
Three (which only had 2100MHz spectrum since its a 3G only provider), has bought some 1800MHz spectrum off EE. They have not yet declared what they will use this for, but one would suspect limited 'interim 4G' like EE.
There are basically no phones out there at the moment that support both post-auction UK LTE frequencies (800MHz and 2600MHz). France apparently uses 800MHz and 2600MHz although only the latter is currently live. There is a note 2 variant on its way that does 800/2600MHz. Lots more will follow.
The problem we have in the UK, is that we might end up with 4 LTE bands: 800MHz, 900MHz, 1800MHz and 2600MHz !!! No phones are going to be doing all this lot anytime soon. (I was wrong: Nokia Lumnia 920 does, Samsungs do not yet)
Additionally, what happens post-auction to EE's (and perhaps 3's) LTE network at 1800MHz - are they just going to shut it down (one would assume not!) If not then future phones for that network will need to do 800,1800 and 2600MHz. Will they cover the initial 16 cities with 800/2600MHz as well as 1800MHz to keep the early adopters happy?
UK LTE is a mess. Its partially DSO (TV digital switchover) that's to blame, but ofcom could have sold off the 2600MHz spectrum some time ago, and then done the 800MHz auctions after DSO. This is the way that France chose to run its auctions. If ofcom had done this then we could have had 4G 12-18 months ago, and we could not have ended up with half-way-house 1800MHz LTE from the likes of EE.
Anyway to answer your question, if you get any of EE's current phones: iPhone5, SGS3, Lumnia 920, (and, if they announce it, Note 2 - Korean) etc then these ONLY do 1800MHz LTE EE's 'Interim LTE' (and perhaps 700 and 2100MHz LTE - which are useless in UK). Early next year, EE will start to spread coverage outwith those initial 16 cities, but they will do this using the 800MHz and 2600MHz LTE they won at auction.
That phone you got from them wont work on these post-auction LTE frequencies. You'll likely be on a two year contract, paying dearly for the fact that you adopted LTE early since those that waited would enjoy much better LTE coverage from their later-generation phones. On top of that, your phone, not having the right radio's for UK LTE will be worth sweet FA on ebay!
The operator arguments over the 800 and 2600MHz bands have hardly started yet. If O2/Voda get permission to run LTE on their 900MHz spectrum (and are also allowed to bit on 800MHz), you can bet you house that the operators without 900MHz aint gonna be happy!
What really gets me regarding all the arguments, is that neither O2, vodafone nor (to a lesser extent) orange ever bothered to implement 3G properly. It works in cities, thats about it. Only Three and T-Mobile actually implemented a reasonable 3G network that covered most of the UK.
Personally, I would forget about LTE for 18 months until there is a viable network, and some viable hardware that is actually able to take advantage of all the LTE infrastructure no matter what frequency is happens to run on! I certainly would not be signing up with EE (or three if they do 1800MHz LTE) for 2 years, just to be the first - as there's good potential to get caught out 9-12 months down the line.
For the operators, there are other issues at 800MHz. Folk living close to base stations are likely to loose the freeview muxes that are sat in the low 800MHz. In simple cases, this is fixed by a filter, in other cases, it will require a new roof antenna, while for some other folks, it will require a switch from freeview-freesat. One of the conditions attached to the 800MHz spectrum is that the mobile operator needs to fix-up the TV signal's for any customer that is likely to be effected. This will also reduce the radiation patterns, and thus range of the base stations in certain directions. Ofcom will only allow switch-on of the BS once the MO has fixed up all potential TV reception issues. Its going to cost them a fortune!
NB: What what I have seen thus far, Galaxy S3 and Note 2 don't do 1800,800 & 2600 in the same device. BUT Nokia Lumnia 920 does.
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veletron said:
NB: What what I have seen thus far, Galaxy S3 and Note 2 don't do 1800,800 & 2600 in the same device. BUT Nokia Lumnia 920 does.
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I didn't realise just how many Note II variations have been / are being released!
GT-N7105
LTE2600 (B7), LTE800 (B20)
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3807&c=samsung_gt-n7105_galaxy_note_ii_lte_32gb
SGH-i317
LTE700 (B17), LTE1700/2100 (B4)
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3826&view=1&c=samsung_sgh-i317_galaxy_note_ii_lte
SHV-E250S
LTE850 (B5)
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3851&view=1&c=samsung_shv-e250s_galaxy_note_ii_lte
SPH-L900 (CDMA)
LTE1900 (B2), LTE1900 (B25)
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3832&c=samsung_sph-l900_galaxy_note_ii_lte
SCH-R950 (CDMA)
LTE850 (B5), LTE1700/2100 (B4), LTE1900 (B2), LTE700 (B12)
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3877&c=samsung_sch-r950_galaxy_note_ii_lte
Reading the following suggests that the Korean version (N7105?) supports all three networks - SKT, KT and LG U+:
http://sammyhub.com/2012/09/26/samsung-announces-galaxy-note-ii-for-south-korea/
... and, according to the following article, the only frequency supported by KT is 1800Mhz:
http://www.macrumors.com/2012/08/15...e-for-8001800-mhz-lte-service-on-next-iphone/
This would suggest that the Note 2 for Korea supports 800, 1800 & 2600Mhz.

Korean versions:
SK's SHV-E250S Supports Band 3 and 5
KT's SHV-E250K Supports Band 3 and 8
LG's SHV-E250U Supports Band 1 and 5

So basically if I'm on ATT here in the states with my Note 1, I should cool my jets and wait for the official US ATT version comes out instead of jumping the gun and getting an international version. Am I correct?

This GT-N7105 sold on NegriElectronics details these LTE bands:
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4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 2100

Unfortunately, I think Negri Electronics is misinformed over the specs of the N7105. Although they list the necessary LTE bands for AT&T, I believe that may be incorrect. According to Android Authority and the FCC, the N7105 does not support USA/Canada LTE bands sadly... I hope we're all proven wrong soon though!
Alternatively, assuming all other features and hardware of the AT&T/Rogers Note II are exactly the same as the international N7105, then it's likely possible that we can simply flash N7105 firmware out of the box, but continue to use the modem.bin from the carrier firmware for continued LTE functionality. That's what I did with my OG AT&T branded Galaxy Tab, and it worked brilliantly!
So, to recap:
1. Int'l N7105 is likely NOT North American LTE friendly :'(
2. North American carrier branded GSM/LTE Note 2's will likely have 99.9% identical hardware to Int'l N7105 (the .1% difference being the tweaked LTE radio and modem.bin driver file)
3. Possible workaround for North American users would be to get GSM carrier Note 2, retain modem.bin from carrier firmware, flash Int'l N7105 firmware, flash carrier modem.bin, and viola! North American LTE friendly Int'l Note 2!

Hmmm, I may have to contact them for clarification and cancel my order if that's the case.
Will update when I get feedback from them.
Edit: Talked with a Negri CS rep, and he suggested I cancel my pre-order and wait until they receive units to verify compatibility. That's what I have just done.

Engadget have a review up with the lte bands and model numbers. BUT
they don't list the 7105 as having band 1800 which is EEs network yet EE are set to sell the lte variant next week. :-/
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EE's LTE Variant
T-Mobile UK called me yesterday to confirm that they've received stock of the Note 2 LTE. I received a text to confirm that one of these is scheduled for delivery to my home within the next four hours (by midday UK time). Once it arrives, hopefully I can tell you exactly which bands in addition to band 3 (if any) are supported.

7105 galaxy note 2

no att lte band , damn im disappointed.
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The SGH-i317 is the correct one, no?
I'm trying to avoid the same disappointment up here in Canada on Fido/Rogers. From what I've read, the SGH-i317 supports both AT&T and Fido/Rogers.
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Official release for the USA LTE Note2 is 24th October i read earlier today.

Just need to know where we can get an unlocked LTE phone compatible with our LTE bands in Canada.. =(

I'm hoping that I can pick one up at the Samsung store in Vancouver when they're available.
exparanoia: do you agree that the sgh-i317 is the correct model?
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fogducker said:
I'm hoping that I can pick one up at the Samsung store in Vancouver when they're available.
exparanoia: do you agree that the sgh-i317 is the correct model?
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karthigan said:
So with regards to reply for Pat above, it appears we have multiple model #s for the Galaxy Note 2, with the following Cellular Networks that is supported:
Samsung SGH-i317 Galaxy Note II LTE
GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850 (B5), UMTS900 (B8), UMTS1900 (B2), UMTS2100 (B1)
Samsung GT-N7105 Galaxy Note II LTE
GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850 (B5), UMTS900 (B8), UMTS1900 (B2), UMTS2100 (B1)
Samsung SCH-R950 Galaxy Note II LTE
CDMA800 (BC0), CDMA1900 (BC14), CDMA1700/2100 (BC15)
Samsung SCH-i605 Galaxy Note II LTE
Dual:Cellular-Network_Operation: Parallel operation
Secondary+Cellular+Networks: CDMA800 (BC0), CDMA1900 (BC14), LTE700 (B13)
Secondary+Cellular_Data+Links: cdmaOne, CDMA2000 1xRTT, CDMA2000 1xEV-DO Rel. 0, CDMA2000 1xEV-DO Rev A, LTE
Samsung SPH-L900 Galaxy Note II LTE
GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850 (B5), UMTS900 (B8), UMTS1900 (B2), UMTS2100 (B1)
Samsung SHV-E250S Galaxy Note II LTE
GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850 (B5), UMTS900 (B8), UMTS1900 (B2), UMTS2100 (B1)
Samsung Galaxy Note II SC-02E
GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS800 (B6), UMTS850 (B5), UMTS2100 (B1)
Samsung SCH-N719 Galaxy Note 2 CDMA
CDMA800 (BC0), CDMA1900 (BC14)
So, which one to choose ? LOL! I wish the Canadian Carriers Release the Model #s!!!
Given the fact that the Canadian Carriers - Operate on the 700MHz (Band 17) / 2100MHz (Band 7) frequencies for their LTE Network anyways & 3G is on 850/1900 Mhz (GSM), I think the safe-bet models would be: SGH-i317, SPH-L900 & GT-N7105.
Also, Bell Canada (which shares the LTE Network with Telus) - All of them operate on the bands: 700 Mhz / 2100 Mhz (AWS) for their LTE Networks.
This is not to be confused with AWS Freqency for Wind Mobile, Mobilicity, etc. carriers
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According to this, apparently.

What is the difference between the first two if all the bands are identical?
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So am I correct when I assume that there will pretty much be two versions of the phone with LTE compatibility, one on GSM and one on CDMA, because the list of the ones above, all of them have the same basebands for GSM, but there are 4 different models.
So which one would I need to get for it to work with ATT, TMOBILE, and any other GSM carrier? besides having it unlocked?
Do you recommend I get a european version which already comes unlocked, or just get a branded one to a carrier and get it unlocked? Please advise.

elite-fusion said:
So am I correct when I assume that there will pretty much be two versions of the phone with LTE compatibility, one on GSM and one on CDMA, because the list of the ones above, all of them have the same basebands for GSM, but there are 4 different models.
So which one would I need to get for it to work with ATT, TMOBILE, and any other GSM carrier? besides having it unlocked?
Do you recommend I get a european version which already comes unlocked, or just get a branded one to a carrier and get it unlocked? Please advise.
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You need to first decide whether LTE is important to you or not. If it is, you need to wait for the SGH-i317 which supports "North American LTE". If LTE is not important to you, the 7100 will do the trick.
I live in a LTE zone in Canada but opted for the 7100 (no LTE) after reading some battery & performance reports. HSPA+ speeds are just fine for my needs and I spend 90% of my time in WiFi zones anyways. Battery life is on the top of my list.
YMMV

fogducker said:
HSPA+ speeds are just fine for my needs and I spend 90% of my time in WiFi zones anyways. Battery life is on the top of my list.
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Um, using WiFi drains the battery more than using 3G/4G LTE. WiFi will obviously save you in terms of data usage if you don't have an unlimited plan, but won't save your battery.
I did some tests on my Razr Maxx and WiFi used almost twice the amount of battery by itself than only using 4G.
Save your batteries. Turn WiFi off if you're not using it, and use it as little as possible.

elite-fusion said:
So am I correct when I assume that there will pretty much be two versions of the phone with LTE compatibility, one on GSM and one on CDMA, because the list of the ones above, all of them have the same basebands for GSM, but there are 4 different models.
So which one would I need to get for it to work with ATT, TMOBILE, and any other GSM carrier? besides having it unlocked?
Do you recommend I get a european version which already comes unlocked, or just get a branded one to a carrier and get it unlocked? Please advise.
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Why not wait til next week (24th) to see if T-Mobile will release their own version?

-BoneZ- said:
Um, using WiFi drains the battery more than using 3G/4G LTE. WiFi will obviously save you in terms of data usage if you don't have an unlimited plan, but won't save your battery.
I did some tests on my Razr Maxx and WiFi used almost twice the amount of battery by itself than only using 4G.
Save your batteries. Turn WiFi off if you're not using it, and use it as little as possible.
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I agree that WiFI isn't free, but I wouldn't have guessed that it was that much less efficient than LTE.
I'd be curious to know how different signal strengths affect both WiFi and LTE. For example: would people on the fringe realize 25% more drain than those in 'hot' zones? I'm also curious if 5GHz performs any better than 2.4GHz w.r.t. power consumption.
My 7100 was shipped today - can't wait to get my hands on it!

fogducker said:
You need to first decide whether LTE is important to you or not. If it is, you need to wait for the SGH-i317 which supports "North American LTE". If LTE is not important to you, the 7100 will do the trick.
I live in a LTE zone in Canada but opted for the 7100 (no LTE) after reading some battery & performance reports. HSPA+ speeds are just fine for my needs and I spend 90% of my time in WiFi zones anyways. Battery life is on the top of my list.
YMMV
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I did the same. Loving my new toy right now.
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achusaysblessyou said:
Why not wait til next week (24th) to see if T-Mobile will release their own version?
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Yep. That is what I am doing, but I want to have the ability to switch between T-Mobile and ATT if I do decide to do so. I know if I get the NON LTE, it will be HSPA+ but will not work on ATT 4G or any other GSM carriers 4G, but if I do get the LTE version, will it work with both HSPA+ and 4G LTE?
I am going to be waiting until the 24th, afterall just two more days left. But either way, if I buy the phone flat out so I can get the monthly $50 for everything unlimited, I would want to get the phone unlocked, to have the ability to switch carriers at any time, so question being...as stated above, so that I know which carrier to get from so that it is the LTE version so I can unlock it and use it accordingly.

Not true for me...
fogducker said:
I agree that WiFI isn't free, but I wouldn't have guessed that it was that much less efficient than LTE.
I'd be curious to know how different signal strengths affect both WiFi and LTE. For example: would people on the fringe realize 25% more drain than those in 'hot' zones? I'm also curious if 5GHz performs any better than 2.4GHz w.r.t. power consumption.
My 7100 was shipped today - can't wait to get my hands on it!
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I don't know what the difference would be... but my Nexus One uses a lot less battery on WiFi than on my normal 3G network at my house. Maybe signal strength is the issue? I don't know... but I always have WiFi on when I'm home to save on battery life and it works amazing.

[Q] Using my Galaxy S5 G900F in Canada?

Hi all, I'm wondering if I may trouble you with a quick question.
I recently bought a Galaxy S5 (Galaxy S5 G900F) in the hopes to have it future proof as I move to Canada next year and would like to have a solid phone for about two - three years. I'm based in Ireland at the moment and wondering can the phone be used in Canada without issue?
I was looking at a phone company (Koodo) who offer great rates and once I inputted my IMEI it stated my phone wouldn't work on their network.
Surely the S5 would work on any network throughout the globe? Last year my Note 3 worked perfectly in America and it was an international edition also.
Is this a hardware issue (radios) or software (were a simple flash of a different rom could fix)?
Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated.
Regards

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Surely the S5 would work on any network throughout the globe?
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Okay, let me ask you this question. If the S5 should work around the world.. why does Samsung have a dozen S5 variants?
Figured it out yet? Ironically the hardware is capable of supporting all GSM and LTE bands world wide. But Samsung endeavors to sell their phones for higher prices in more affluent countries. And carriers don't want to make it easy for you to jump ship and sign your phone up to another network. So they have artificial restrictions in the firmware and other measures e.g. region locking, SIM locks, to limit what you can do. They have to allow enough compatibility that you could usually roam when traveling. But not complete compatibility or you might buy a cheaper S5 from another country. Or change carriers willy nilly.
Yup, great system.
And so it is for your phone. It will work most of the time in Canada. But it isn't 100% compatible and you may find that it can't operate on the necessary bands in fringe areas or for niche carriers.
Most of the bands are the same between the S5 900F (yours) and the S5 900W8 (Canada)
The differences, I believe are:
2G: same for both
3G: Most bands are the same. But you have B8(900) in place of Canadian band B4(1700 aka AWS)
4G: Most bands are the same. But you have B5(850), B20(800) instead of Canadian bands B4(1700 aka AWS), B17(700)
In the case of Fido, their site says:
Fido said:
Things to Know
Your device must be compatible with the Fido network, which uses GSM, UMTS, HSPA and HSPA+ at 850 MHz and 1900 MHz and LTE at 2100 MHz and 2600 MHz. If you are unsure of how to check the frequencies your device supports, try the manufacturer's official website and search for the specifications for your particular phone/smartphone model;
If your device is currently locked, it needs to be unlocked by the carrier you bought it from;
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It appears to me that your phone supports all of the Fido bands. And most, but not all of the bands on other Canadian carriers. I don't believe that your phone will work at all on niche carriers Wind or Mobilicity.
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fffft said:
Okay, let me ask you this question. If the S5 should work around the world.. why does Samsung have a dozen S5 variants?
Figured it out yet? Ironically the hardware is capable of supporting all GSM and LTE bands world wide. But Samsung endeavors to sell their phones for higher prices in more affluent countries. And carriers don't want to make it easy for you to jump ship and sign your phone up to another network. So they have artificial restrictions in the firmware and other measures e.g. region locking, SIM locks, to limit what you can do. They have to allow enough compatibility that you could usually roam when traveling. But not complete compatibility or you might buy a cheaper S5 from another country. Or change carriers willy nilly.
Yup, great system.
And so it is for your phone. It will work most of the time in Canada. But it isn't 100% compatible and you may find that it can't operate on the necessary bands in fringe areas or for niche carriers.
Most of the bands are the same between the S5 900F (yours) and the S5 900W8 (Canada)
The differences, I believe are:
2G: same for both
3G: Most bands are the same. But you have B8(900) in place of Canadian band B4(1700 aka AWS)
4G: Most bands are the same. But you have B5(850), B20(800) instead of Canadian bands B4(1700 aka AWS), B17(700)
In the case of Fido, their site says:
It appears to me that your phone supports all of the Fido bands. And most, but not all of the bands on other Canadian carriers. I don't believe that your phone will work at all on niche carriers Wind or Mobilicity.
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Thank you very much for your reply. I figured it would be something to do with the radio.. Will check the bands for the network Koodoo, if it falls in ok and I can find a firmware to flash which hopefully should do the trick. Hell I might even just sell before I go, make it easier.
Cheers

gbyrne2011 said:
Will check the bands for the network Koodoo
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Koodo is a secondary brand of Telus.
They use 3G 850 CLR/1900 PCS
And 4G /LTE 1700/2100 (and possibly 700 in the future)
You are missing their 1700 LTE band, sometimes referred to as AWS. So you will have to find out how extensively they use that band and whether it is a sole frequency in any areas.
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fffft said:
Koodo is a secondary brand of Telus.
They use 3G 850 CLR/1900 PCS
And 4G /LTE 1700/2100 (and possibly 700 in the future)
You are missing their 1700 LTE band, sometimes referred to as AWS. So you will have to find out how extensively they use that band and whether it is a sole frequency in any areas.
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Thanks very much for all your help fffft, it's much appreciated.

[Q] SM-N910W8 or SM-N910U ?

Dear Experts :
I'm in the process of buying a new unlocked Galaxy Note 4, after using my legendary Galaxy S II for 4 years so far, and i need your help regarding which version should i get ..
for those who are unaware the SM-N910W8 has the Snapdragon 805 CPU, while the SM-N910U has the Exynos 5433
i live in Canada and right now i am with Wind network, there is a slight chance i might switch to Fido depending on my data usage after i get my Note 4, anyhow my question is :
which of the two should i buy in terms of network speed, ROM development and availability for customization, Phone heating ... i honestly cant think of more differences than that but if there is then please enlighten me
Please help me decide .

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I choose N910w8, for me is faster than N910U and more friendly with the battery... that's a simple opinion so good luck!

Wind or the Big 3
Wind frequency: UMTS band AWS (1700/2100) No LTE at the moment
Fido frequency: GSM, UMTS, HSPA and HSPA+ at 850 MHz and 1900 MHz. To access LTE network, the phone must be compatible with: 700 MHz on Band 17; 1700/2100 MHz on Band 4
First, let list some of the features of these devices N910W8 (Snapdragon), N910U and N910C (both Exynos 5433/Octa core)
For N910C Asia, Europe, South America version: Network 4G LTE FDD
2G GSM: GSM850, GSM900, DCS1800, PCS1900
3G UMTS: B1(2100), B2(1900), B5(850), B8(900)
4G FDD LTE: B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B17(700), B20(800)
***It cannot be use with WIND b/c it does not have band AWS for 3G but only for 4G. However, you can use this phone with the BIG 3 and on FIDO as it has 2 LTE bands, which FIDO currently using.
For N910U Hong Kong, Taiwan, Australia, New Zealand, Chile version: 4G LTE FDD
2G GSM: GSM850, GSM900, DCS1800, PCS1900
3G UMTS: B1(2100), B2(1900), B5(850), B8(900)
4G FDD LTE: B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B28(700)
*** it too cannot be use with WIND b/c it does not have band AWS for 3G but only for 4G. However, you can use this phone with the BIG 3 and on FIDO. BUT THE DIFFERENT BETWEEN THIS AND N910C is that this only has 1 LTE bands, which FIDO currently using and DO NOT HAVE band 17. So, you may not get good LTE speed compare to N910C model.
For N910W8 Canadian model: 2G GSM, 3G WCDMA, 4G LTE FDD
2G GSM: GSM850, GSM900, DCS1800, PCS1900
3G UMTS: B1(2100), B2(1900), B4(AWS), B5(850)
4G FDD LTE: B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B12(700), B17(700)
*** It can be use with ALL CANADIAN NETWORK including WIND AND MOBILICITY. It can also run all LTE network in Canada at max potential b/c it has all of the bands, which Canadian Networks use.
If you choose to use WIND, your choice for which Note 4 model is clear
I have a friend who has SM-N910S model from Korea ( Exynos 5433/Octa core). He uses it on a Canadian network and he notices that his battery runs dry very quickly compare to my Note 4 (N910W8). I think that b/c for all of the international models like N910C or U, they have different radios and try to look for the signals differently compare to the Canadian version (N910W8). Hence, low life battery. So be careful and choose wisely as well b/c I do not think you want to have only 3-4 hours of screen on-time eh?
ROM development
Back when the phone was initially coming to the market, owning the Snapdragon was a plus b/c if I remember correctly, it was the 1st version to be Rooted successfully, while the Exynos have to wait. Same go with ROM as well. But I think the market has been saturated with both model, you cannot go wrong with either one. But I think that if you want to try out the earliest ROM or changes, the Snapdragon will be more suitable.
However, if Samsung decides to push 64 bit software support, then the Exynos variants are the best choice. But as of now, I think the Exynos still only runs 32 bit as Samsung has locked the 64 bit down. So will see!
Last week Sunday, I purchased my Note 4 from Wind on Wind tab $649.00 CAD. It is a great phone and I have no issue with it so far. The phone runs lighting fast, if you turn off some of Sammy features and animation.
I think present to you all of the information that I know about the Note 4 to the best of my abilities. I think you will be better off to get N910C rather then U if you have to choose between the two of them.
Now, depend on what you want and needs, N910C for raw power but limited as I listed reaons above or N910W8 for Wind and flexibility but lesser power compare to Exynos variants.
***TIPS*** if you look around expansys, ebay, you may get a good deal for N910C. But for N910W8, you have to buy it from Wind then. I would recommend you to buy out right as it a better option in the long run. If you have any question, let me know.
*****Source: from Samsung Website and GSMarena

Well, if you are a power user and need allot of processing power for apps and games. Then I would recommend the N910C rather than the N910U. As the N910C works on the same LTE bands for Canada while the N910U is design to work only on certain Asian specific LTE Bands. However you will still be able to use a N910C in Asia.

T-Mobile compatibility?

So, this device looks pretty sweet. And it might be a good upgrade from my Note 4. The only question I have is, will it get LTE on T-Mobile?
Since this whole sub-forum is dead, I guess I'll have to wait until some people get their hands on it over here.

I am also wondering the same thing but C9000 doesn't support any of the TMO LTE Bands. Need to wait for Samsung to release the C900F in the future
Sent from my SM-G930F using XDA-Developers Legacy app

In Germany are available these networks:
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I use it in UK on EE network and i get 4g with it. no issues so far

I'm in the Netherlands, and I'm waiting for the C900F to come out. Anyone know when is gonna come out?

SM-C900F/DS arrived allready >>> http://www.samsung.com/in/microsite/galaxy-c9-pro/

criszz said:
SM-C900F/DS arrived allready >>> http://www.samsung.com/in/microsite/galaxy-c9-pro/
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Thanx. But still not in Europe It's expensive in India, plus those units have region lock. Anyone know where I can order one without region lock?

Singapore phone are all unlock but not sure of export set. C9 cost ard $600 for export set.

orbital_71 said:
Singapore phone are all unlock but not sure of export set. C9 cost ard $600 for export set.
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Thanx. Any good website you can recommend?

I have the Asian version which was bought in Hong Kong.
I can confirm it doesn't work with O2 and partly with 3 (Three)
When i say partly with 3 (Three) is because it will pick up LTE on the 1800 MHz where available and not the 800MHz
Whereas o2 is completely on the 800MHz range and therefore unhelpful.
4g.co.uk/4g-frequencies-uk-need-know
according to the above link, you can get LTE on frequencies 1800MHz and 2600MHz depending what mobile provider you are with and the availability in your area.
Bottomline, 800MHz/Band 20 isnt supported on the C9 PRO.
My question is are the supported Bands software or hardware enabled??
If it possible to unlock the 800MHz via software??

zakun82 said:
Bottomline, 800MHz/Band 20 isnt supported on the C9 PRO.
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SM-C900F should support 800MHz/B20.

This is what I found to compare.
T-Mobile uses these bands:
GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850 (B5)
UMTS1700/2100 (B4), UMTS1900 (B2), UMTS2100 (B1)
LTE850 (B5), LTE1700/2100 (B4), LTE2600 (B7), LTE1800 (B3), LTE1900 (B2), LTE700 (B12)
The Galaxy C9 is compatible with these bands:
2G bands: GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900,
3G bands: HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100,
4G bands: LTE2100 (B1), TD-SCDMA2000, TD-SCDMA1900, LTE1800 (B3), LTE2600 (B7), LTE900 (B8), TD-LTE2500 (B41), TD-LTE2600 (B38), TD-LTE2300 (B40), TD-LTE1900 (B39).
The important numbers to look at are T-Mobile using 850/900/1800/1900 and the C9 getting 850/900/1800/1900/2100. That covers what we need for what T-Mobile calls 3G. Note: What T-Mobile calls G3 is called G4 by other companies. Thus what they call 4G is 4G LTE only. So by these numbers, T-Mobile actually gets 4G. IF I understood correctly what I read
As for 4G LTE T-Mobile uses B1/B2/B3/B4/B5 and B12.
Of the T-Mobile bands, the C9 is compatible with only B1 and B3 as well as a bunch of irrelevant ones. This means that if you are in an area where T-Mobile is using B1 or B3, you are in luck and will get 4G LTE. If not, you will have to be happy with 4G.
However, I came here trying to find out how to set it up and which of three slots to put my T-Moblile SIMM card into, so this didn't help me at all.
I hope it helped you!!

RemoWilliams said:
SM-C900F should support 800MHz/B20.
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Ugh, I finally received the C9 Pro C900F/DS for my wife (got it from Malaysia), and turns out I was mistaken after all: It does NOT have Band 20 (I used 'LTE Discovery' app to check). I was under the assumption that Samsung's "F" models are the global variants, and always have Band 20. I guess I was wrong.

anyone using the C9 pro in Canada? is it compatible with any service provider's LTE?

Mine was able to use the 3G HSPA + before I update to 7.1.1. After official update, I only can use EDGE. I need help!!!! How do I know is my hardware problem or the software problem??