Dear Experts :
I'm in the process of buying a new unlocked Galaxy Note 4, after using my legendary Galaxy S II for 4 years so far, and i need your help regarding which version should i get ..
for those who are unaware the SM-N910W8 has the Snapdragon 805 CPU, while the SM-N910U has the Exynos 5433
i live in Canada and right now i am with Wind network, there is a slight chance i might switch to Fido depending on my data usage after i get my Note 4, anyhow my question is :
which of the two should i buy in terms of network speed, ROM development and availability for customization, Phone heating ... i honestly cant think of more differences than that but if there is then please enlighten me
Please help me decide .
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I choose N910w8, for me is faster than N910U and more friendly with the battery... that's a simple opinion so good luck!
Wind or the Big 3
Wind frequency: UMTS band AWS (1700/2100) No LTE at the moment
Fido frequency: GSM, UMTS, HSPA and HSPA+ at 850 MHz and 1900 MHz. To access LTE network, the phone must be compatible with: 700 MHz on Band 17; 1700/2100 MHz on Band 4
First, let list some of the features of these devices N910W8 (Snapdragon), N910U and N910C (both Exynos 5433/Octa core)
For N910C Asia, Europe, South America version: Network 4G LTE FDD
2G GSM: GSM850, GSM900, DCS1800, PCS1900
3G UMTS: B1(2100), B2(1900), B5(850), B8(900)
4G FDD LTE: B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B17(700), B20(800)
***It cannot be use with WIND b/c it does not have band AWS for 3G but only for 4G. However, you can use this phone with the BIG 3 and on FIDO as it has 2 LTE bands, which FIDO currently using.
For N910U Hong Kong, Taiwan, Australia, New Zealand, Chile version: 4G LTE FDD
2G GSM: GSM850, GSM900, DCS1800, PCS1900
3G UMTS: B1(2100), B2(1900), B5(850), B8(900)
4G FDD LTE: B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B28(700)
*** it too cannot be use with WIND b/c it does not have band AWS for 3G but only for 4G. However, you can use this phone with the BIG 3 and on FIDO. BUT THE DIFFERENT BETWEEN THIS AND N910C is that this only has 1 LTE bands, which FIDO currently using and DO NOT HAVE band 17. So, you may not get good LTE speed compare to N910C model.
For N910W8 Canadian model: 2G GSM, 3G WCDMA, 4G LTE FDD
2G GSM: GSM850, GSM900, DCS1800, PCS1900
3G UMTS: B1(2100), B2(1900), B4(AWS), B5(850)
4G FDD LTE: B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B12(700), B17(700)
*** It can be use with ALL CANADIAN NETWORK including WIND AND MOBILICITY. It can also run all LTE network in Canada at max potential b/c it has all of the bands, which Canadian Networks use.
If you choose to use WIND, your choice for which Note 4 model is clear
I have a friend who has SM-N910S model from Korea ( Exynos 5433/Octa core). He uses it on a Canadian network and he notices that his battery runs dry very quickly compare to my Note 4 (N910W8). I think that b/c for all of the international models like N910C or U, they have different radios and try to look for the signals differently compare to the Canadian version (N910W8). Hence, low life battery. So be careful and choose wisely as well b/c I do not think you want to have only 3-4 hours of screen on-time eh?
ROM development
Back when the phone was initially coming to the market, owning the Snapdragon was a plus b/c if I remember correctly, it was the 1st version to be Rooted successfully, while the Exynos have to wait. Same go with ROM as well. But I think the market has been saturated with both model, you cannot go wrong with either one. But I think that if you want to try out the earliest ROM or changes, the Snapdragon will be more suitable.
However, if Samsung decides to push 64 bit software support, then the Exynos variants are the best choice. But as of now, I think the Exynos still only runs 32 bit as Samsung has locked the 64 bit down. So will see!
Last week Sunday, I purchased my Note 4 from Wind on Wind tab $649.00 CAD. It is a great phone and I have no issue with it so far. The phone runs lighting fast, if you turn off some of Sammy features and animation.
I think present to you all of the information that I know about the Note 4 to the best of my abilities. I think you will be better off to get N910C rather then U if you have to choose between the two of them.
Now, depend on what you want and needs, N910C for raw power but limited as I listed reaons above or N910W8 for Wind and flexibility but lesser power compare to Exynos variants.
***TIPS*** if you look around expansys, ebay, you may get a good deal for N910C. But for N910W8, you have to buy it from Wind then. I would recommend you to buy out right as it a better option in the long run. If you have any question, let me know.
*****Source: from Samsung Website and GSMarena
Well, if you are a power user and need allot of processing power for apps and games. Then I would recommend the N910C rather than the N910U. As the N910C works on the same LTE bands for Canada while the N910U is design to work only on certain Asian specific LTE Bands. However you will still be able to use a N910C in Asia.
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I really have no idea but it appears the N7105 is international version with no LTE, at least that works with ATT. The N7100 is the model number with LTE that will work with ATT. Is this true? Negri Electronics is selling the N7100, the spec says "4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 2100". Does this work with ATT 4G LTE? Is this the model, if you want LTE, to buy?
I preordered from Negri a week ago, but definitely want LTE in U.S.so keep order or cancel? Many websites reference in specs LTE but others call for 2 models....anyone really know. Clove U.K. simply calls device Samsung Note 2, no reference to N7100 or N7105. It clearly doesn't show in specs 4G LTE, only 3G.Handtec (U.K.) calls out phone N7100 with the following spec:"3G: HSPA＋ 21Mbps (HSDPA 21Mbps / HSUPA 5.76Mbps) 4G LTE: 100Mbps/ 50Mbps (HDSPA 42Mbps / HSUPA 5.76Mbps)
So which is it? Does anyone know?
I am not sure, but in the fcc documents for the N7105 there's no mention of lte at all.
So I believe that the n7105 is the international without lte.
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If you live in the US, you want LTE. It's awesome in every respect. It's like having a FIOS line in the palm of your hand.
In Singapore, Note 1's model number is GT-N7000 while Note 1 LTE is GT-N7005. I do believe that Samsung's naming format for their international handsets doesn't differ from country to country. Therefore GT-N7105 is Note II LTE. just my educated guess.
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mix1987 said:
In Singapore, Note 1's model number is GT-N7000 while Note 1 LTE is GT-N7005. I do believe that Samsung's naming format for their international handsets doesn't differ from country to country. Therefore GT-N7105 is Note II LTE. just my educated guess.
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Correct! The models ending with 05 are LTE
nascar24usa said:
I really have no idea but it appears the N7105 is international version with no LTE, at least that works with ATT. The N7100 is the model number with LTE that will work with ATT. Is this true? Negri Electronics is selling the N7100, the spec says "4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 2100". Does this work with ATT 4G LTE? Is this the model, if you want LTE, to buy?
I preordered from Negri a week ago, but definitely want LTE in U.S.so keep order or cancel? Many websites reference in specs LTE but others call for 2 models....anyone really know. Clove U.K. simply calls device Samsung Note 2, no reference to N7100 or N7105. It clearly doesn't show in specs 4G LTE, only 3G.Handtec (U.K.) calls out phone N7100 with the following spec:"3G: HSPA＋ 21Mbps (HSDPA 21Mbps / HSUPA 5.76Mbps) 4G LTE: 100Mbps/ 50Mbps (HDSPA 42Mbps / HSUPA 5.76Mbps)
So which is it? Does anyone know?
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There are at least 5 different versions if not more. Although it is LTE capable, the version sold for England does not have a LTE chip, The German one does but it will not work on ATT. There are no LTE networks in Europe that I know about compatible with ATT LTE bands. If you buy one in Europe plan on using 3G and 2G on ATT. Make sure it has these bands:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
ATT uses 850 and 1900 for 2G and 3G. You need both.
To use ATT LTE you need a chip for this:
LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 1700 / 2100.
From what I can tell, even if you happen to buy out of country versions that are compatible for some LTE frequencies for example AT&T, it may not be as compatible as phones you would get from AT&T directly because of the mix and match LTE spectrums that AT&T and all other carriers have purchased. I'm guessing the days of importing International versions are over if you care about good LTE coverage.
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There are at least 5 different versions if not more. Although it is LTE capable, the version sold for England does not have a LTE chip, The German one does but it will not work on ATT. There are no LTE networks in Europe that I know about compatible with ATT LTE bands. If you buy one in Europe plan on using 3G and 2G on ATT. Make sure it has these bands:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
ATT uses 850 and 1900 for 2G and 3G. You need both.
To use ATT LTE you need a chip for this:
LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 1700 / 2100.
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Negri lists as follows:
Negri Electronics (Las Vegas) pre order lists the Note 2 as follows:
3G/4G bands 850 , 900 , 1900 , 2100
DATA GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
Speed HSDPA, 21 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps; LTE, Cat3, 50 Mbps UL, 100 Mbps
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 2100
If accurate, this will work with ATT LTE, yes?
here is the lte version from hk web site but not yet official by samsung.
http://www.price.com.hk/product.php?p=145083
according to what you can read here : http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3807&c=samsung_gt-n7105_galaxy_note_ii_lte_32gb
N7105 is LTE for LTE2600 (B7) and LTE800 (B20). Those frequencies have choosen for LTE in France
I wonder if the Korean LTE one released today will work in uk when our 4g is up and running. Anyone know?
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I wonder if the Korean LTE one released today will work in uk when our 4g is up and running. Anyone know?
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Unfortunately not. I believe that South Korean LTE is on 1800MHz. Post auction UK LTE frequencies are 800MHz and 2600MHz (these are the bands to be auctioned off before the end of 2012). However, it will likely work on EE's Interim LTE network.
Everything Everywhere will launch an 'interim 4G' solution, running LTE on some of its unused 1800MHz spectrum (from the T-Mobile/Orange Merger). This will be rolled out to 16 cities before the end of the year. EE 4G is up and running as we speak, but only for dongles, and one cannot yet buy a phone on contract from them.
Aside from that, O2 and Vodafone have lots of spectrum at 900MHz, depending on what they secure at 800MHz, they might ask ofcom to allow them to run LTE on 900MHz, likely siting ofcoms agreement to allow EE to run LTE on 1800MHz as ammunition!
Three (which only had 2100MHz spectrum since its a 3G only provider), has bought some 1800MHz spectrum off EE. They have not yet declared what they will use this for, but one would suspect limited 'interim 4G' like EE.
There are basically no phones out there at the moment that support both post-auction UK LTE frequencies (800MHz and 2600MHz). France apparently uses 800MHz and 2600MHz although only the latter is currently live. There is a note 2 variant on its way that does 800/2600MHz. Lots more will follow.
The problem we have in the UK, is that we might end up with 4 LTE bands: 800MHz, 900MHz, 1800MHz and 2600MHz !!! No phones are going to be doing all this lot anytime soon. (I was wrong: Nokia Lumnia 920 does, Samsungs do not yet)
Additionally, what happens post-auction to EE's (and perhaps 3's) LTE network at 1800MHz - are they just going to shut it down (one would assume not!) If not then future phones for that network will need to do 800,1800 and 2600MHz. Will they cover the initial 16 cities with 800/2600MHz as well as 1800MHz to keep the early adopters happy?
UK LTE is a mess. Its partially DSO (TV digital switchover) that's to blame, but ofcom could have sold off the 2600MHz spectrum some time ago, and then done the 800MHz auctions after DSO. This is the way that France chose to run its auctions. If ofcom had done this then we could have had 4G 12-18 months ago, and we could not have ended up with half-way-house 1800MHz LTE from the likes of EE.
Anyway to answer your question, if you get any of EE's current phones: iPhone5, SGS3, Lumnia 920, (and, if they announce it, Note 2 - Korean) etc then these ONLY do 1800MHz LTE EE's 'Interim LTE' (and perhaps 700 and 2100MHz LTE - which are useless in UK). Early next year, EE will start to spread coverage outwith those initial 16 cities, but they will do this using the 800MHz and 2600MHz LTE they won at auction.
That phone you got from them wont work on these post-auction LTE frequencies. You'll likely be on a two year contract, paying dearly for the fact that you adopted LTE early since those that waited would enjoy much better LTE coverage from their later-generation phones. On top of that, your phone, not having the right radio's for UK LTE will be worth sweet FA on ebay!
The operator arguments over the 800 and 2600MHz bands have hardly started yet. If O2/Voda get permission to run LTE on their 900MHz spectrum (and are also allowed to bit on 800MHz), you can bet you house that the operators without 900MHz aint gonna be happy!
What really gets me regarding all the arguments, is that neither O2, vodafone nor (to a lesser extent) orange ever bothered to implement 3G properly. It works in cities, thats about it. Only Three and T-Mobile actually implemented a reasonable 3G network that covered most of the UK.
Personally, I would forget about LTE for 18 months until there is a viable network, and some viable hardware that is actually able to take advantage of all the LTE infrastructure no matter what frequency is happens to run on! I certainly would not be signing up with EE (or three if they do 1800MHz LTE) for 2 years, just to be the first - as there's good potential to get caught out 9-12 months down the line.
For the operators, there are other issues at 800MHz. Folk living close to base stations are likely to loose the freeview muxes that are sat in the low 800MHz. In simple cases, this is fixed by a filter, in other cases, it will require a new roof antenna, while for some other folks, it will require a switch from freeview-freesat. One of the conditions attached to the 800MHz spectrum is that the mobile operator needs to fix-up the TV signal's for any customer that is likely to be effected. This will also reduce the radiation patterns, and thus range of the base stations in certain directions. Ofcom will only allow switch-on of the BS once the MO has fixed up all potential TV reception issues. Its going to cost them a fortune!
NB: What what I have seen thus far, Galaxy S3 and Note 2 don't do 1800,800 & 2600 in the same device. BUT Nokia Lumnia 920 does.
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NB: What what I have seen thus far, Galaxy S3 and Note 2 don't do 1800,800 & 2600 in the same device. BUT Nokia Lumnia 920 does.
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I didn't realise just how many Note II variations have been / are being released!
GT-N7105
LTE2600 (B7), LTE800 (B20)
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3807&c=samsung_gt-n7105_galaxy_note_ii_lte_32gb
SGH-i317
LTE700 (B17), LTE1700/2100 (B4)
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3826&view=1&c=samsung_sgh-i317_galaxy_note_ii_lte
SHV-E250S
LTE850 (B5)
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3851&view=1&c=samsung_shv-e250s_galaxy_note_ii_lte
SPH-L900 (CDMA)
LTE1900 (B2), LTE1900 (B25)
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3832&c=samsung_sph-l900_galaxy_note_ii_lte
SCH-R950 (CDMA)
LTE850 (B5), LTE1700/2100 (B4), LTE1900 (B2), LTE700 (B12)
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3877&c=samsung_sch-r950_galaxy_note_ii_lte
Reading the following suggests that the Korean version (N7105?) supports all three networks - SKT, KT and LG U+:
http://sammyhub.com/2012/09/26/samsung-announces-galaxy-note-ii-for-south-korea/
... and, according to the following article, the only frequency supported by KT is 1800Mhz:
http://www.macrumors.com/2012/08/15...e-for-8001800-mhz-lte-service-on-next-iphone/
This would suggest that the Note 2 for Korea supports 800, 1800 & 2600Mhz.
Korean versions:
SK's SHV-E250S Supports Band 3 and 5
KT's SHV-E250K Supports Band 3 and 8
LG's SHV-E250U Supports Band 1 and 5
So basically if I'm on ATT here in the states with my Note 1, I should cool my jets and wait for the official US ATT version comes out instead of jumping the gun and getting an international version. Am I correct?
This GT-N7105 sold on NegriElectronics details these LTE bands:
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4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 2100
Unfortunately, I think Negri Electronics is misinformed over the specs of the N7105. Although they list the necessary LTE bands for AT&T, I believe that may be incorrect. According to Android Authority and the FCC, the N7105 does not support USA/Canada LTE bands sadly... I hope we're all proven wrong soon though!
Alternatively, assuming all other features and hardware of the AT&T/Rogers Note II are exactly the same as the international N7105, then it's likely possible that we can simply flash N7105 firmware out of the box, but continue to use the modem.bin from the carrier firmware for continued LTE functionality. That's what I did with my OG AT&T branded Galaxy Tab, and it worked brilliantly!
So, to recap:
1. Int'l N7105 is likely NOT North American LTE friendly :'(
2. North American carrier branded GSM/LTE Note 2's will likely have 99.9% identical hardware to Int'l N7105 (the .1% difference being the tweaked LTE radio and modem.bin driver file)
3. Possible workaround for North American users would be to get GSM carrier Note 2, retain modem.bin from carrier firmware, flash Int'l N7105 firmware, flash carrier modem.bin, and viola! North American LTE friendly Int'l Note 2!
Hmmm, I may have to contact them for clarification and cancel my order if that's the case.
Will update when I get feedback from them.
Edit: Talked with a Negri CS rep, and he suggested I cancel my pre-order and wait until they receive units to verify compatibility. That's what I have just done.
Engadget have a review up with the lte bands and model numbers. BUT
they don't list the 7105 as having band 1800 which is EEs network yet EE are set to sell the lte variant next week. :-/
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EE's LTE Variant
T-Mobile UK called me yesterday to confirm that they've received stock of the Note 2 LTE. I received a text to confirm that one of these is scheduled for delivery to my home within the next four hours (by midday UK time). Once it arrives, hopefully I can tell you exactly which bands in addition to band 3 (if any) are supported.
Samsung needs to tell us clearly what is what with the Note 2. If someone wants to buy an International Note 2, from say UK, and not wait till Nov., will the Note 2 from UK work on ATT with LTE? Why can't Samsung publish the radio bands for the International Note 2? I have looked at numerous websites and some list LTE and others don't, and overseas LTE radio bands appear different than ATT, as an example.It would seem we should be told what is what, so all can clearly understand what device to buy from where, if one wants LTE. I don't have on original Note, but have on S3, and totally a requirement going forward. LTE is so much much faster than 3G that I don't want to buy a Note 2 if it isn't capable of LTE that works on ATT. I rather wait till mid Nov. and get directly from ATT than get 6 weeks sooner, if it only has 3G. Perhaps I will just wait to be sure, but seems straightforward question that easily can be answered and published by Samsung.
Maybe I have missed something, but I can't find any definitive info regarding this LTE subject. Samsung needs to communicate.
I am also trying to figure out which version to buy and every site says something different,
This is phonearena which I am going off of
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-GALAXY-Note-II_id7254
spridell said:
I am also trying to figure out which version to buy and every site says something different,
This is phonearena which I am going off of
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-GALAXY-Note-II_id7254
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Additional examples, Clove UK specs say nothing about 4G LTE, yet Negri Electronics specs calls out 4G LTE...and on and on......Handtec in UK spec does call out 4G LTE, and we know Handtec and Clove UK will be getting the same device. Handtec spec:
3G: HSPA＋ 21Mbps (HSDPA 21Mbps / HSUPA 5.76Mbps) 4G LTE: 100Mbps/ 50Mbps (HDSPA 42Mbps / HSUPA 5.76Mbps)
I'm going off this:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/12/galaxy-note-2-fcc/
The GT-N7105 model doesn't have LTE bands, so deductive reasoning says the N7100 model might.
...although it might not
Funk2641 said:
I'm going off this:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/12/galaxy-note-2-fcc/
The GT-N7105 model doesn't have LTE bands, so deductive reasoning says the N7100 model might.
...although it might not
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Agreed, but my point, no one knows, so Samsung step up and tell us.....................hello
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Agreed, but my point, no one knows, so Samsung step up and tell us.....................hello
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There sure is conflicting info everywhere.
N7100 is non LTE,
N7105 has LTE
The galaxy s3 I9300 has no LTE
While their I9305 model does have LTE
Look for the 05 to identify the LTE model. Now whether a European LTE model will work in The USA or vice versa is another headache
lawtq said:
There sure is conflicting info everywhere.
N7100 is non LTE,
N7105 has LTE
The galaxy s3 I9300 has no LTE
While their I9305 model does have LTE
Look for the 05 to identify the LTE model. Now whether a European LTE model will work in The USA or vice versa is another headache
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That is the million dollar question, will the N7105 LTE model work on the LTE carriers here in the USA.
If it does that would be awesome.
I am also slightly peeved about this. Then again, it's not like I will have it in my hands the moment I know the LTE bands. According to the Engadget article it states no "US-FRIENDLY" LTE bands, which may no imply the device not having LTE altogether.
I would suspect the LTE version sold outside America will have LTE 800/900/1800/2100/2600 (meaning it will work perfectly on all LTE networks in Europe and almost everywhere else in the world) and then America will have their own versions that support your (AT&T for GSM version) 700MHz LTE band.
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Samsung needs to tell us clearly what is what with the Note 2. If someone wants to buy an International Note 2, from say UK, and not wait till Nov., will the Note 2 from UK work on ATT with LTE? Why can't Samsung publish the radio bands for the International Note 2? I have looked at numerous websites and some list LTE and others don't, and overseas LTE radio bands appear different than ATT, as an example.It would seem we should be told what is what, so all can clearly understand what device to buy from where, if one wants LTE. I don't have on original Note, but have on S3, and totally a requirement going forward. LTE is so much much faster than 3G that I don't want to buy a Note 2 if it isn't capable of LTE that works on ATT. I rather wait till mid Nov. and get directly from ATT than get 6 weeks sooner, if it only has 3G. Perhaps I will just wait to be sure, but seems straightforward question that easily can be answered and published by Samsung.
Maybe I have missed something, but I can't find any definitive info regarding this LTE subject. Samsung needs to communicate.
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There are at least 5 different versions if not more. Although it is LTE capable, the version sold for England does not have a LTE chip, The German one does but it will not work on ATT. There are no LTE networks in Europe that I know about compatible with ATT LTE bands. If you buy one in Europe plan on using 3G and 2G on ATT. Make sure it has these bands:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
ATT uses 850 and 1900 for 2G and 3G. You need both.
To use ATT LTE you need a chip for this:
LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 1700 / 2100.
Sebring5 said:
There are at least 5 different versions if not more. Although it is LTE capable, the version sold for England does not have a LTE chip, The German one does but it will not work on ATT. There are no LTE networks in Europe that I know about compatible with ATT LTE bands. If you buy one in Europe plan on using 3G and 2G on ATT. Make sure it has these bands:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
ATT uses 850 and 1900 for 2G and 3G. You need both.
To use ATT LTE you need a chip for this:
LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 1700 / 2100.
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Negri Electronics (Las Vegas) pre order lists the Note 2 as follows:
3G/4G bands 850 , 900 , 1900 , 2100
DATA GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
Speed HSDPA, 21 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps; LTE, Cat3, 50 Mbps UL, 100 Mbps
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 2100
If accurate, this will work with ATT LTE, yes?
nascar24usa said:
Negri Electronics (Las Vegas) pre order lists the Note 2 as follows:
3G/4G bands 850 , 900 , 1900 , 2100
DATA GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
Speed HSDPA, 21 Mbps; HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps; LTE, Cat3, 50 Mbps UL, 100 Mbps
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 2100
If accurate, this will work with ATT LTE, yes?
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You need to confirm LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 2100 is on board the model they are selling you. There are a lot of different versions and not all have LTE chips and the ones that do have LTE chips for different areas. There is a CDMA version that US Cellular has up for preorder.
apparently there is a bunch of Gnote II types...this is just confusing why wouldnt they just have a 4g for all?
just realized the one i bought from Handtec will not have 4g/LTE
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=3807&c=samsung_gt-n7105_galaxy_note_ii_lte_32gb
There is an NDA on the 4g version.
EE has an exclusivity package.
Yep most UK information points to EE having the 4G LTE version.
I hate looking at mobile phone websites the first thing you see is iphone5! Then search for phones coming soon and galaxy note 2 isn't even there!
Samsung needs to get their marketing sorted 4 days to go and nobody knows for sure wtf going on. Carriers are equally to blame for lack of information.
Hi Bros,
I got a gift from my Hong Kong friend which is Note 4 but is N910U, which is different from US ATT version N910A.
I check up the LTE band, N910U support the below cellular:
GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850 (B5), UMTS900 (B8), UMTS1900 (B2), UMTS2100 (B1), LTE2100 (B1), LTE850 (B5), LTE1700/2100 (B4), LTE1800 (B3), LTE2600 (B7), LTE1900 (B2), LTE900 (B8), LTE700 (B28)
For ATT in my area, LTE mostly are using band 4 and band 17. Sure it should able to using ATT LTE even band 4 is the only band available in N910U.
However, I insert the ATT SIM card, it not going to LTE, mostly the top signal icon only show U+/U, seldom show 4G. Sure never have 4G LTE show up.
I call up ATT customer service and I also provide the IMEI # for them and see they can manual register this IMEI # into their database for LTE support, but they said this IMEI show non LTE support. Even they tell me the APN manual set up, also I x check with my existing unlock Oneplus One, but still cannot switch to 4G LTE band.
I also use LTE Discovery App to confirm my area what is the LTE band, I'm sure when I'm using band 4 on my Oneplus One, this N910U still not connected to band 4, just stay at U/U+ only.
I don't know should I need to talk to a more technical person in ATT? Or this is a business issue that ATT will not support unlock phone from outside even LTE band is matching ATT?
I need some advise from you, my wife love this phone as she are on Note 4 for 2 years and she like to use stylus too.
tkcctkcc said:
Hi Bros,
I got a gift from my Hong Kong friend which is Note 4 but is N910U, which is different from US ATT version N910A.
I check up the LTE band, N910U support the below cellular:
GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850 (B5), UMTS900 (B8), UMTS1900 (B2), UMTS2100 (B1), LTE2100 (B1), LTE850 (B5), LTE1700/2100 (B4), LTE1800 (B3), LTE2600 (B7), LTE1900 (B2), LTE900 (B8), LTE700 (B28)
For ATT in my area, LTE mostly are using band 4 and band 17. Sure it should able to using ATT LTE even on band 4 is available in my area.
However, I insert the ATT SIM card, it not going to LTE, mostly the top signal icon only show U+/U, seldom show. Sure never have 4G LTE show up.
I call up ATT customer service and I also provide the IMEI # for them and see they can manual register this IMEI # into their database for LTE support, but they said this IMEI show non LTE support. Even they tell me the APN manual set up, also I x check with my existing unlock Oneplus One, but still cannot switch to 4G LTE band.
I also use LTE Discovery App to confirm my area what is the LTE band, I'm sure when I'm using band 4 on my Oneplus One, this N910U still not connected to band 4, just stay at U/U+ only.
I don't know should I need to talk to a more technical person in ATT? Or this is a business issue that ATT will not support unlock phone from outside even LTE band is matching ATT?
I need some advise from you, my wife love this phone as she are on Note 4 for 2 years and she like to use stylus too.
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The AT&T cell towers does not fully support Intel 7260 modem inside your Galaxy Note 4 device. Most, if not all, devices sold in the US use Qualcomm Gobi modems and Ericsson X modems. The only option I can think of is receiving a new authentication from the cell towers by asking AT&T for a new SIM card.
tkcctkcc said:
Hi Bros,
I got a gift from my Hong Kong friend which is Note 4 but is N910U, which is different from US ATT version N910A.
I check up the LTE band, N910U support the below cellular:
GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850 (B5), UMTS900 (B8), UMTS1900 (B2), UMTS2100 (B1), LTE2100 (B1), LTE850 (B5), LTE1700/2100 (B4), LTE1800 (B3), LTE2600 (B7), LTE1900 (B2), LTE900 (B8), LTE700 (B28)
For ATT in my area, LTE mostly are using band 4 and band 17. Sure it should able to using ATT LTE even band 4 is the only band available in N910U.
However, I insert the ATT SIM card, it not going to LTE, mostly the top signal icon only show U+/U, seldom show 4G. Sure never have 4G LTE show up.
I call up ATT customer service and I also provide the IMEI # for them and see they can manual register this IMEI # into their database for LTE support, but they said this IMEI show non LTE support. Even they tell me the APN manual set up, also I x check with my existing unlock Oneplus One, but still cannot switch to 4G LTE band.
I also use LTE Discovery App to confirm my area what is the LTE band, I'm sure when I'm using band 4 on my Oneplus One, this N910U still not connected to band 4, just stay at U/U+ only.
I don't know should I need to talk to a more technical person in ATT? Or this is a business issue that ATT will not support unlock phone from outside even LTE band is matching ATT?
I need some advise from you, my wife love this phone as she are on Note 4 for 2 years and she like to use stylus too.
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I don't know where you got your info but I am sure it is wrong. According to Samsung on this site http://www.samsung.com/nz/consumer/mobile-phone/smartphone/smartphone/SM-N910UZWENZC
it does not support AT&T's LTE bands.
tkmobilesupport said:
The AT&T cell towers does not fully support Intel 7260 modem inside your Galaxy Note 4 device. Most, if not all, devices sold in the US use Qualcomm Gobi modems and Ericsson X modems. The only option I can think of is receiving a new authentication from the cell towers by asking AT&T for a new SIM card.
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So it is not related to N910U using Samsung Exynos 5 Octa 5433? Is the modem itself? Or Exynos 5 Octa 5433 embedded the 7260 modem which is not support by ATT cell towers?
Let me go ATT shop to get a replacement SIM and see how it work or not. Thanks.
PS: I try to search the detail spec for N910U, it never point out using Intel 7260 modem, how to know the phone using the exact modem? So in future can understand more before getting new unlock phone. Thanks.
CodeNameRedNeck said:
I don't know where you got your info but I am sure it is wrong. According to Samsung on this site http://www.samsung.com/nz/consumer/mobile-phone/smartphone/smartphone/SM-N910UZWENZC
it does not support AT&T's LTE bands.
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Hi,
The link you post here is not Hong Kong, pls see the below official Samsung HK:
http://www.samsung.com/hk_en/consumer/mobile/galaxy-note/galaxy-note/SM-N910UZWETGY
4G FDD LTE: B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B28(700)
So it absolutely support LTE band from ATT
another 3rd parties link:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&...g_sm-n910u_galaxy_note_4_lte-a_samsung_muscat
The issue is not from the exynos chipset, but the modem itself. I can assure you that SM-N910U comes with Intel 7260 LTE modem because I've been working with Samsung Software Engineers to develop kernels and drivers for this modem.
To clarify... AT&T engineers has programmed the towers in a way that make the towers reject certain modems because they cannot guarantee the compatiblity. What they are trying to do is to make you use a more stable HSPA+ connection rather than LTE connection that has issues with the modem because in the long run, AT&T will have to give you credit for service disruptions and they are not willing to do that.
tkmobilesupport said:
The issue is not from the exynos chipset, but the modem itself. I can assure you that SM-N910U comes with Intel 7260 LTE modem because I've been working with Samsung Software Engineers to develop kernels and drivers for this modem.
To clarify... AT&T engineers has programmed the towers in a way that make the towers reject certain modems because they cannot guarantee the compatiblity. What they are trying to do is to make you use a more stable HSPA+ connection rather than LTE connection that has issues with the modem because in the long run, AT&T will have to give you credit for service disruptions and they are not willing to do that.
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Thanks bros. So just a only customer (or few more) using N910U, ATT engineering team will not change their policy to accept other modems or work out some software upgrade program to accept other modem with 100% compatibility. So bad then.
tkmobilesupport said:
The issue is not from the exynos chipset, but the modem itself. I can assure you that SM-N910U comes with Intel 7260 LTE modem because I've been working with Samsung Software Engineers to develop kernels and drivers for this modem.
To clarify... AT&T engineers has programmed the towers in a way that make the towers reject certain modems because they cannot guarantee the compatiblity. What they are trying to do is to make you use a more stable HSPA+ connection rather than LTE connection that has issues with the modem because in the long run, AT&T will have to give you credit for service disruptions and they are not willing to do that.
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1 more, I search multiple tear down webpage, sure not yet find any one tear down N910U, but find a name Qualcomm MDM9225M, is this the one you talk about the modem?
PS: I search it, it is belong to Qualcomm Gobi modem chipsets. So if not using Qualcomm 805 as processor, that means they are not using Qualcomm chipset for thin modem and so ATT not going to support. Qualcomm dominate the US market then. Too bad.
tkcctkcc said:
Thanks bros. So just a only customer (or few more) using N910U, ATT engineering team will not change their policy to accept other modems or work out some software upgrade program to accept other modem with 100% compatibility. So bad then.
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No they will not. Unfortunately, that's how carriers in the U.S. do their jobs.
-->About the modem: If you are not using a Qualcomm Snapdragon 805, your device comes with either Intel 7260, Ericsson, or Samsung 300 modems. SM-N910U uses Intel.
Hi Bros,
As coming Galaxy S6 not using Snapdragon 810, but using Exynos 7420, so the modems also not using Qualcomm,. Do you know S6 using what modem? If S6 using Intel modem or other like what you said Ericsson, or Samsung 300 modems, ATT should change their software to support non Qualcomm modem, which means my N910U may able to use ATT 4G LTE support? Can you advise?
Based on my reading for months on here. N910C seems to be the only variant with exynos and supports AT&T LTE.
I bought mine about 2 weeks ago and so far I get LTE in most places.
I am looking to get a Snapdragon 805 based Note 4. The most common variant seems to be the SM-910F.
Is this variant compatible with WInd Mobile in Canada (AWS /UMTS Band 4 - aka 1700/2100MHz)? At the moment, Wind does not seem to have an LTE service, so that is not a concern right now.
Has anyone else attempted it?
A quick check on the US Amazon website and:
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-SM-N910F-Factory-Unlocked-International/dp/B00NB1DVII
GSM (2G) GSM 850 MHz, GSM 900 MHz, DCS 1.800 MHz, PCS 1.900 MHz
UMTS (3G) B1 (2100), B2 (1900), B5 (850), B8 (900)
4G FDD LTE B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B17(700), B20(800)
The B4 (AWS) part makes me think that this should work on Wind Mobile.
910F is the international version with the Snapdragon 805. There is no 810 Snapdragon version of the Note 4. Since its the international version it should work fine.
Thanks - fixed typo.
But yeah I am thinking it will be fine as well.
sauron0101 said:
Thanks - fixed typo.
But yeah I am thinking it will be fine as well.
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I don't think it will work, the AWS band is being used for LTE. I would say get the sm-N910W
It is not.
Is there a database somewhere of model numbers of the Note 4 filtered by the compatibility with bands?
The 910T, 910F, and 910W8 seem to be compatible. Ideally I would like to have the Snapdragon 805 variants.
newbies
Just got the 910f thought it would works with wind but no such luck.
maybe I need a Modem flash of the ATT variant might be able to get it working but no luck finding that so far.
I will let u know if I can get it to work.
sauron0101 said:
It is not.
Is there a database somewhere of model numbers of the Note 4 filtered by the compatibility with bands?
The 910T, 910F, and 910W8 seem to be compatible. Ideally I would like to have the Snapdragon 805 variants.
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Seems the SM-928C is the cheapest way of getting handset only. I've checked it will work with my provider, but what are the implications?
Thanks!
I'm using mine in the US no problems the specs and hardware were the same
"All we know is...He's called the Stig!"
Sent from my G928C Rockin AUDAX+Rom&Eladios Themes
US model don't update in the UK. i read some were AT&T model don't update in the UK. so you might not get Marshmallow android 6.0 update. correct me if am wrong.
Asian model factory unlocked will update to the latest android in the UK.
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US model don't update in the UK. i read some were AT&T model don't update in the UK. so you might not get Marshmallow android 6.0 update. correct me if am wrong.
Asian model factory unlocked will update to the latest android in the UK.
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Mine isn't US model it's an unlocked international G928C is from South Africa or Angola something like that.
If it was US ATT it'd be G928A
"All we know is...He's called the Stig!"
Sent from my G928C Rockin AUDAX+Rom&Eladios Themes
EE, three and vodafone network will all work with 2G, 3G and 4G LTE with Asian model
only 2G and 3G will work with 02 network. about 4G LTE with 02 network might work. you should be fine. just make sure its factory unlocked
Galaxy S6 edge + (SM-G928C)
2G GSM
GSM850, GSM900, DCS1800, PCS1900
3G UMTS
B1(2100), B2(1900), B5(850), B8(900)
4G FDD LTE
B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B12(700), B17(700), B18(800), B19(800), B20(800), B26(800)
compare your network band's with galaxy s6 edge+ Plus G928C see below
EE network
1,800 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
2,100 MHz UMTS/HSDPA/HSPA+/DC-HSPA+ 3G
800 MHz LTE (planned) 4G
1,800 MHz LTE 4G
2,600 MHz LTE Advanced 4G
02 network
900 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
1,800 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
900 MHz UMTS/HSDPA/HSPA+/DC-HSPA+ 3G
2,100 MHz UMTS/HSDPA/HSPA+/DC-HSPA+ 3G
800 MHz LTE 4G
Vodafone UK
900 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
1800 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
900 MHz UMTS/HSDPA/HSPA+/DC-HSPA+ 3G
2100 MHz UMTS/HSDPA/HSPA+/DC-HSPA+ 3G
800 MHz LTE 4G
2600 MHz LTE Advanced 4G
Three UK
2100 MHz UMTS/HSDPA/HSPA+/DC-HSPA+ 3G
800 MHz LTE[26] 4G
1800 MHz LTE[17] 4G
I have an SM-G928C which I bought from the Middle East and brought to the UK. On stock it worked fine with O2 including 4G. No problems whatsoever.
With a custom ROM is still works fine.