I have a Ballistic Nylon Droid Turbo, looking to get a Z3v...
I had the Z3v for a week before I traded it in for the Turbo, thinking I'd like it more. I regret the decision, I miss many of the Sony features and am not a huge fan of the Droid Turbo's design.
My Turbo is in nearly perfect condition, never been dropped, and has been used in a case for most of it's time with me. ( I can post pictures, if you'd like)
If you're interested, comment below. We can arrange how to send them to each other, or whatever.
Thanks for your time
I just went from a z3v to a turbo. The Sony was nice but its big, heavy and fragile. Good luck but i think that you are making a mistake. I just don't see much support for it down the line. The z4 just came out and Sony is selling the mobile division. Don't feel anything positive for Sony.
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I just went from a z3v to a turbo. The Sony was nice but its big, heavy and fragile. Good luck but i think that you are making a mistake. I just don't see much support for it down the line. The z4 just came out and Sony is selling the mobile division. Don't feel anything positive for Sony.
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Z3v better in everything
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Lol welcome back =)
Edit.. To the op. He makes good points. Sony is very much up in the air right now. I also think it would be a mistake.
A little bit of a stretch. It may serve your time better by looking at new posts instead of trying to find the "ah ha" posts. I still think that the Z3V is better. Much better camera, wifi is way better than the turbo, I even thought that the software ran just as smooth if not smoother. Removable storage is great and its waterproof. Now for me personally I want something to tide me over to the M9 and S6 or possibly even the Z4. We will see but the Z3V for me was just too frail. It doesn't have much on the resale end so I jumped faster than I usually would have. I also don't think that it will be supported very well at all from Verizon. I would love if Sony kept on making them but it looks like they are going to dump the mobile division. That could mean a year or two of uncertainty. Best bet is to step away and then if it looks good later to step back in. The Z3V just doesn't have any kind of identity. My opinion of course. Turbo is a 60-90 day ride for me before the big guns release. Turbo is nice but its not good enough for me to be a long term keeper.
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A little bit of a stretch. It may serve your time better by looking at new posts instead of trying to find the "ah ha" posts. I still think that the Z3V is better. Much better camera, wifi is way better than the turbo, I even thought that the software ran just as smooth if not smoother. Removable storage is great and its waterproof. Now for me personally I want something to tide me over to the M9 and S6 or possibly even the Z4. We will see but the Z3V for me was just too frail. It doesn't have much on the resale end so I jumped faster than I usually would have. I also don't think that it will be supported very well at all from Verizon. I would love if Sony kept on making them but it looks like they are going to dump the mobile division. That could mean a year or two of uncertainty. Best bet is to step away and then if it looks good later to step back in. The Z3V just doesn't have any kind of identity. My opinion of course. Turbo is a 60-90 day ride for me before the big guns release. Turbo is nice but its not good enough for me to be a long term keeper.
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You contradict yourself soooooo much.
If you truly felt the z3v was better you would have kept it. Any uncertainty in Sony's future would not affect existing devices and Sony has always been known as the worst OEM for updates.
Well you are defiantly not worth the time. Stop trolling me.
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Well you are defiantly not worth the time. Stop trolling me.
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Ironic comment.
Reported..
So many haters, but I'm certainly enjoying my Z3v. Lollipop support is coming in a few weeks, and everything about my phone is top notch. Fragile build? I think not, it's thicker than its brethren with no leak gaps unlike certain Z3 models.
As for the rumors of selling the Sony Mobile division, I hope it isn't true. They just need to work around their marketing strategy and do a few tweaks and maybe they could really try throwing all the advertising on everyone's faces to sell. As for reputation, I highly doubt the Droid Turbo is a recognizable phone anywhere else other than the States...
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So many haters, but I'm certainly enjoying my Z3v. Lollipop support is coming in a few weeks, and everything about my phone is top notch. Fragile build? I think not, it's thicker than its brethren with no leak gaps unlike certain Z3 models.
As for the rumors of selling the Sony Mobile division, I hope it isn't true. They just need to work around their marketing strategy and do a few tweaks and maybe they could really try throwing all the advertising on everyone's faces to sell. As for reputation, I highly doubt the Droid Turbo is a recognizable phone anywhere else other than the States...
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Keep in mind the lollipop announcement was for international versions. Sony can't set a timetable on Verizon.
Yet, the Z3v is still slated for lollipop release starting next month as it's still a Z series phone with the rest of the list.
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Yet, the Z3v is still slated for lollipop release starting next month as it's still a Z series phone with the rest of the list.
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The Turbo has been slated for lollipop for a while. As you may have noticed, Verizon has yet to approve it. My point is, and you seem to be ignoring it is that Verizon can and will slow down that process considerably. None of those other models have to worry about CDMA or Verizon's apps on top of Verizon's quite slow approval process.
Okay, so why be the pessimist here? Trying to make people feel bad they have great coverage?
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Okay, so why be the pessimist here? Trying to make people feel bad they have great coverage?
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Truth hurts sometimes. Hiding from on it doesn't make it go away. What does coverage have to do with anything?
Why do you feel the need to discuss this in a Droid Turbo forum anyway?
adrynalyne said:
Truth hurts sometimes. Hiding from on it doesn't make it go away. What does coverage have to do with anything?
Why do you feel the need to discuss this in a Droid Turbo forum anyway?
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To be honest, the XDA forum app really doesn't do me good in seeing where some threads belong to what forums. I just see a Z3v thread pop up on my main screen and I just wound up getting into the discussion here.
Anyhow though, even if there are delays to releasing the update compared to the international version, it's still a confirmed fact that the Z3v will receive the much needed update that may hopefully include VoLTE. Something I know the Droid Turbo has now when it did not at the time of its introduction.
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To be honest, the XDA forum app really doesn't do me good in seeing where some threads belong to what forums. I just see a Z3v thread pop up on my main screen and I just wound up getting into the discussion here.
Anyhow though, even if there are delays to releasing the update compared to the international version, it's still a confirmed fact that the Z3v will receive the much needed update that may hopefully include VoLTE. Something I know the Droid Turbo has now when it did not at the time of its introduction.
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Hopefully volte works better for the z3v than it does for the turbo.
It is garbage for us.
adrynalyne said:
Hopefully volte works better for the z3v than it does for the turbo.
It is garbage for us.
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How so? Loss in voice quality or major reduction in data speed during calls?
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How so? Loss in voice quality or major reduction in data speed during calls?
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Voice quality is really bad unless you get the rare HD call.
My parents both own Z3v's after not liking the low volume of the ear pieces on the Turbo. Not the biggest fan of the Sony skin, but the phones overall are very nice. Screen is beautiful and it's a very snappy phone. Speakers are surprisingly loud and when making calls, the ear piece is easily one of the loudest I've heard on any phone. You'd have no issues talking in a noisy environment with that phone.
I really wanted to like the Z3v but it's heavier and bigger in every dimension than the Turbo. And why do you think Apple abandoned glass backs 3 years ago? It's just another pane of really thin and fragile glass to crack, or at the last get fingerprints all over. The camera's better but still not good. I don't see the appeal.
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Hey guys,
I posted this in response to another forum post, but I wanted to get other people's opinions, as well:
Unfortunately, I am returning my Atrix tonight as well - day 27 of purchase. This is my first Android phone but I feel like I'm missing out on some of the best aspects of the XDA community and features of Android, in general. I like the Atrix, but not enough to keep it for two years on contract with most likely very meager updating by Motorola in the future. I also have some gripes about the hardware.
I consider this my introductory Android experience and absolutely love the OS. I love it so much, that I want to be able to experience more of it!
Since I sold my iPhone 4 (for a nice profit!), I will be using an old school Razr until something of interest comes along. The Inspire does not seem to warrant the use of my upgrade eligibility.
Also debating jumping ship altogether from AT&T. This whole HSPA thing, while not a deal breaker, certainly left a very bitter taste in my mouth. I have recently found AT&T store reps to be uninformed and fairly rude, especially on the phone. I have been a loyal customer since 2000.
I hope that the current locking trend we've seen from HTC and Motorola is not a sure sign of the future of Android. One of the main reasons I left my iPhone behind was because I enjoy tinkering with my phone a lot, and the Android OS is so well suited for it!
It seems like developer support is a key factor in ensuring the longevity of a device, far after the hardware company has moved on. I don't like to buy phones continuously off contract and I would like to ensure that my phone stays developmentally relevant for the duration off my contract.
This may not be the proper forum for this response, but I just felt the need to vent and am interested in hearing what you guys have to say. Not trying to bad-mouth the Atrix for those who like it, it's just not quite the Android experience I hoped for.
See you guys around XDA!!!
I'll second that
About the only thing the Atrix has going for it is the dual-core Tegra2. (being rant) Other than that, it's a piece of junk compared to cheaper phones, and what software even uses the dual-core feature? Faster browsing my a**! My iPhone 3gs had smoother and faster browsing! The screen sucks--yeah, it's got qHD, but with zig-zagged subpixels and a crappy response time, not to mention the darkest it gets is too bright and the brightest it gets is too dark. Bugs everywhere, if I leave the phone on for a day I stop getting text messages or data. I've never been able to get a google voice voicemail to play on my phone. I can't decline an update, I've been keeping the WiFi off for the last few days just to avoid it. I agree totally that Android is a nice OS, but I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for Motorola to give me something better than 2.2. (end rant)
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About the only thing the Atrix has going for it is the dual-core Tegra2. (being rant) Other than that, it's a piece of junk compared to cheaper phones, and what software even uses the dual-core feature? Faster browsing my a**! My iPhone 3gs had smoother and faster browsing! The screen sucks--yeah, it's got qHD, but with zig-zagged subpixels and a crappy response time, not to mention the darkest it gets is too bright and the brightest it gets is too dark. Bugs everywhere, if I leave the phone on for a day I stop getting text messages or data. I've never been able to get a google voice voicemail to play on my phone. I can't decline an update, I've been keeping the WiFi off for the last few days just to avoid it. I agree totally that Android is a nice OS, but I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for Motorola to give me something better than 2.2. (end rant)
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I can't really agree with any of that.....and I'm guessing you haven't heard the leak that the 2.3 update is coming very soon?
Even one star is generous.
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I can't really agree with any of that.....and I'm guessing you haven't heard the leak that the 2.3 update is coming very soon?
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I haven't had any of those issues. In my experience, it's a very stable phone. Which leak are you referring to? The DroidX ROM containing the At&t mention?
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I can't...
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We know, we know.
Clienterror said:
I can't really agree with any of that.....and I'm guessing you haven't heard the leak that the 2.3 update is coming very soon?
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How dare you make me defend my statements! ;-) So, regarding the browsing, I'm sure you've noticed that when you scroll with several images on the page the images lag begind the text. As far as loading is concerned, it's hard for me to say that it's not my network conditions, but my 3gs definitely seemed faster. After a little bit of research, I've found that other people complained of this too, but apparently you can change flash to "on-demand" to make general browsing lag-free (haven't confirmed this personally)
As far as the zig-zagged subpixels are concerned, it's a well known fact that Motorola used a pentile pixel matrix to cut costs. It's harder to tell with black on white, but look at any blue hyperlink on a white background, especially when zoomed out (image originally referenced from here).
The display response time has been noticed by others. I couldn't find any official specs to confirm this, but if I'm right that it's a problem then the lack of published response time specs wouldn't be surprising.
Data dropping out is also a well known issue. There's also a post on Motorola's support forum.
The brightness issue is subjective, but I've read a few places that the screen doesn't do to well in daylight. I'm not going to bother referencing this or my google voice problem, their just straws on the camel's back.
Finally, I'm not going to use some rumor that 2.3 is coming soon (how soon?) to push me past my 30-day return limit. Too arbitrary.
So, maybe you don't agree with everything I say, but I hope I just made it really hard for you to say you don't agree with anything I say while keeping a straight face
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Hey guys,
I posted this in response to another forum post, but I wanted to get other people's opinions, as well:
Unfortunately, I am returning my Atrix tonight as well - day 27 of purchase. This is my first Android phone but I feel like I'm missing out on some of the best aspects of the XDA community and features of Android, in general. I like the Atrix, but not enough to keep it for two years on contract with most likely very meager updating by Motorola in the future. I also have some gripes about the hardware.
I consider this my introductory Android experience and absolutely love the OS. I love it so much, that I want to be able to experience more of it!
Since I sold my iPhone 4 (for a nice profit!), I will be using an old school Razr until something of interest comes along. The Inspire does not seem to warrant the use of my upgrade eligibility.
Also debating jumping ship altogether from AT&T. This whole HSPA thing, while not a deal breaker, certainly left a very bitter taste in my mouth. I have recently found AT&T store reps to be uninformed and fairly rude, especially on the phone. I have been a loyal customer since 2000.
I hope that the current locking trend we've seen from HTC and Motorola is not a sure sign of the future of Android. One of the main reasons I left my iPhone behind was because I enjoy tinkering with my phone a lot, and the Android OS is so well suited for it!
It seems like developer support is a key factor in ensuring the longevity of a device, far after the hardware company has moved on. I don't like to buy phones continuously off contract and I would like to ensure that my phone stays developmentally relevant for the duration off my contract.
This may not be the proper forum for this response, but I just felt the need to vent and am interested in hearing what you guys have to say. Not trying to bad-mouth the Atrix for those who like it, it's just not quite the Android experience I hoped for.
See you guys around XDA!!!
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I am actually a little unclear with what issues you have with the phone, most of this post just seems like you talking about liking the OS but not liking the AT&T service, HTC and motorola. You said very little about the phone itself.
to me it sounds like the best thing you should do is indeed jump ship from AT&T and go to verizon or something. As far as the "locking trend" from motorola and HTC.. i am assuming you are talking about the restrictions on sideloading and such. I may be wrong but i feel like this is an AT&T issue not motorola. Other providers that have HTC and Motorola dont seem to have as much issue (please correct me if i am wrong, i do not have too much experience with other providers) So dont worry this is not a sign of the future of android.
Sorry to hear you are not keeping the atrix, i have not had mine as long as you have but i love mine so far. Thanks for the input tho
I wasnt trying to write a post about my specific gripes with the Atrix, moreso I was trying to explain what I feel like I may be missing out on, with regards to Android.
I like HTC a lot, actually.
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I gotcha. Didn't mean to change the mood of your thread, just felt like ranting since I wish I could tell myself to keep the Atrix. I'm going to return my Atrix and hold out for six months at least to see what else comes out. I'm hoping the Galaxy S II will hit AT&T, but I am a bit jealous of my friend who gets 5mb+ on his Verizon iPhone4.
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I wasnt trying to write a post about my specific gripes with the Atrix, moreso I was trying to explain what I feel like I may be missing out on, with regards to Android.
I like HTC a lot, actually.
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Opera 11.
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I think threads like this should be moderated and closed.
To complain about little things like a bit of browser lag, etc - pretty much anything not related to the Atrix itself, is like WTF? Take it up with your carrier, don't blame the handset.
Who really cares if you want to take your Atrix back. Just do it, no need to tell the world about it..
For the record, I've had my Bell Canada Atrix now for a week, and I can't fault it. The last 3 phones I've owned have been HTC Desire HD, iPhone 4 and Nexus S - and other than the Nexus S's gorgeous SAMOLED screen, the Atrix kicks all of others hands down.
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I think threads like this should be moderated and closed.
To complain about little things like a bit of browser lag, etc - pretty much anything not related to the Atrix itself, is like WTF? Take it up with your carrier, don't blame the handset.
Who really cares if you want to take your Atrix back. Just do it, no need to tell the world about it..
For the record, I've had my Bell Canada Atrix now for a week, and I can't fault it. The last 3 phones I've owned have been HTC Desire HD, iPhone 4 and Nexus S - and other than the Nexus S's gorgeous SAMOLED screen, the Atrix kicks all of others hands down.
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Love my atrix too but... its a public forum they could ***** all they want
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Atrix is not what I expected either I had a better time when im using my captivate
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I love my captivate the Super AMOLED is amazing! but i feel like that is the only thing that beats the Atrix. Oh and the Captivate has a much better camera software.. but i shoot a DSLRs so it doesnt bother me.
Im thinking if AT&T gets the Galaxy S II, i might have to switch just cuz the Super AMOLED is AMAZING.
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Love my atrix too but... its a public forum they could ***** all they want
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I will also return 'cause its superlocked bootloader, can't be overclocked to thousands Ghz, can't install 3 roms one on top of each other and I can see the pixels of that pentile screen with my left eye. I just now realize that I don't really need a phone :-o
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i will also return 'cause its superlocked bootloader, can't be overclocked to thousands ghz, can't install 3 roms one on top of each other and i can see the pixels of that pentile screen with my left eye. I just now realize that i don't really need a phone :-o
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bwahahahaahahahahahahahahhahahahahha!!!
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I will also return 'cause its superlocked bootloader, can't be overclocked to thousands Ghz, can't install 3 roms one on top of each other and I can see the pixels of that pentile screen with my left eye. I just now realize that I don't really need a phone :-o
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oh come on, that isn't fair!
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well there is a lot of thread people dont like and so on. i dont like locked bootloader perhaps its an amazing phone fast and the screen its weird because you can see pixels on the screen (why???) perhaps the bright under de sun on clarity i like more than my nexus one, webtop on hdmi its cool, the multimedia HD its pretty nice too,im returning (maybe) but to get another since i guess have a bad battery seems it dont last too mucho or maybe im so heavy user lol
well anyways good luck next device.
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OMG, I can't believe little things ever matter! Seriously, the purpose of a forum is for discussion, and this one seems very one sided--everyone who likes their Atrix is just making smartass comments (except zen kun, thanks for contributing to the discussion).
If you don't like open discussion, why don't you move to China?
Got it a few hours ago. On paper, the specs but don't seem like a huge upgrade, but when you actually use it, you can tell it is.
It's fast. No hiccups, lag, or anything. You may say, "my dinc doesn't have any lag or slowdown either," but when you mess with a dinc 2 you will see what I mean. Screen is gorgeous. Phone feels excellent. Speaker is less "tinny" than the original.
I still need to mess with a ton of other stuff, but if you have any questions, let me know.
I'm most concerned with if/when it gets rooted. And how many dev's it picks up. Looks like quite a few of them already went to the Thunderbolt. I'm not due for an upgrade until July 2012 anyway, so when that date comes, who knows what will be out, but I will probably go with whatever is already rooted, and has the most development.
I had one a few days ago, and honestly, the "faster" tihng is really overblown. A menu screen may pop up a microsecond faster, but it wasn;t any more useable or anything. And the glare on that screen could cut glass.
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I'm most concerned with if/when it gets rooted. And how many dev's it picks up. Looks like quite a few of them already went to the Thunderbolt. I'm not due for an upgrade until July 2012 anyway, so when that date comes, who knows what will be out, but I will probably go with whatever is already rooted, and has the most development.
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Definitely agree with this, wonder what will be hot in development next summer.
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Engadget just gave the Galaxy S II a 9/10. And they hate android. It looks really nice - if it comes out on Verizon, I will have to think really hard about saying no...
I don't know what my next phone will be. I can't upgrade until March but I know I want an LTE phone and front facing camera and the dinc 2 only has one of my wants.
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I got one this morning and I'm liking it. I needed a world phone so it was a no-brainer for me. I like the screen size as compared to my dinc1. It's a good compromise with having a bigger screen without being one of the 4.3" phones that I thought were too big.
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Engadget just gave the Galaxy S II a 9/10. And they hate android. It looks really nice - if it comes out on Verizon, I will have to think really hard about saying no...
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I'm comming from a fascinate unless they fix their updating process and the file system don't buy any samsung phone...
Yea my upgrade isn't up until December I tried to talk my talk today, but it didn't get me anywhere.
What Sense version is it? What kernel? Is it drm protected so it can do netflix? I noticed on the vzw website it has the same processor as the Thunderbolt. So don't know if it would be. Also noticed it doesn't have a trackball or optical joystick. Thats gonna suck.
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What Sense version is it? What kernel? Is it drm protected so it can do netflix? I noticed on the vzw website it has the same processor as the Thunderbolt. So don't know if it would be. Also noticed it doesn't have a trackball or optical joystick. Thats gonna suck.
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I read somewhere that it's Sense 2.0. The kernel is 2.6.35.9. Don't know about drm.
As for the trackball/optical, i'm glad it doesn't have it. I never used it on my dinc1.
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I read somewhere that it's Sense 2.0. The kernel is 2.6.35.9. Don't know about drm.
As for the trackball/optical, i'm glad it doesn't have it. I never used it on my dinc1.
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Sense is version 2.00.0000.339629
Guess I'll have to play with one to check out the glare thing. DI2 is just the size I was looking for, but no dual core and no LTE, made me actually consider waiting for the GS2..... or better.
I believe its sense 2.1 and I personally like the optical joystick as well.
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All questions answered here:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller?item=phoneFirst&action=viewPhoneDetail&selectedPhoneId=5641&deviceCategoryId=1
Im playin with one now at verizon and neither it or the tbolt are a big enough upgrade over the dinc for me. Tbolt maybe, dinc 2, no way. Im runnin optimized z and my phone is way smoother. Inc2 screen only slightly bigger, ive got a z camera that is the same. Dinc2 is already outdated IMO.
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I'm most concerned with if/when it gets rooted. And how many dev's it picks up. Looks like quite a few of them already went to the Thunderbolt...
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That's a big concern for me. I just picked up the DInc2 yesterday....at retail price. Why? Both my wife and I are deaf and we live in what you would call a rather remote area, but at least have VZW tower nearby. A 4G/LTE phone is overkill when one lives nearly 2 hours to the first traffic light. So, on paper, as a 3G phone with video chat capability at a lower price then the LTE stuff, the DInc2 really fits the bill by giving me video chat so my wife and I can sign to each other when in different locations. That's a big plus.
BUT... as I scout all the normal forums I've used for my Droid 1, Droid X and Nook, the DInc2 looks like a real sleeper in terms of dev interest. This is my first HTC phone and even though the Motorola Droid has that %*&$#@ 'locked' bootloader, there's still a lot of options as well as the leaked restore files. I don't really want to root a phone until the point where there's some solid dev work as well as the ability to restore after screwing something up.
So, since like I mentioned, we're nearly 2 hours to the first traffic light and the nearest VZW store is just beyond that, I may bring it back on Tuesday when we're in the area and wait for the next suitable phone that has video chat capabilities. I've always used VZW's one-year contract and now that this option has bit the dust, I don't want to sign a two-year extension at the end of the year unless its for a phone that well-supported by devs AND has decent battery life.
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That's a big concern for me. I just picked up the DInc2 yesterday....at retail price. Why? Both my wife and I are deaf and we live in what you would call a rather remote area, but at least have VZW tower nearby. A 4G/LTE phone is overkill when one lives nearly 2 hours to the first traffic light. So, on paper, as a 3G phone with video chat capability at a lower price then the LTE stuff, the DInc2 really fits the bill by giving me video chat so my wife and I can sign to each other when in different locations. That's a big plus.
BUT... as I scout all the normal forums I've used for my Droid 1, Droid X and Nook, the DInc2 looks like a real sleeper in terms of dev interest. This is my first HTC phone and even though the Motorola Droid has that %*&$#@ 'locked' bootloader, there's still a lot of options as well as the leaked restore files. I don't really want to root a phone until the point where there's some solid dev work as well as the ability to restore after screwing something up.
So, since like I mentioned, we're nearly 2 hours to the first traffic light and the nearest VZW store is just beyond that, I may bring it back on Tuesday when we're in the area and wait for the next suitable phone that has video chat capabilities. I've always used VZW's one-year contract and now that this option has bit the dust, I don't want to sign a two-year extension at the end of the year unless its for a phone that well-supported by devs AND has decent battery life.
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It takes a while for the devs to ramp up on a phone. It was a couple of weeks or more before the original DI was cracked and then it took even more time to get ROMs up to speed. Every phone is different and it just takes time. The DI2 was just released YESTERDAY. Your expectations might be just a little high.
...just sayin'.
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It takes a while for the devs to ramp up on a phone. ...
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Yeah, I do understand that. At the same time, I've been seeing devs flock away from other phones as they get fascinated with latest 4G/LTE, tablet, dual-core, etc. So, in that respect, I'd guess the DInc2 would gotten more attention had it been released early Winter.
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It takes a while for the devs to ramp up on a phone. It was a couple of weeks or more before the original DI was cracked and then it took even more time to get ROMs up to speed. Every phone is different and it just takes time. The DI2 was just released YESTERDAY. Your expectations might be just a little high.
...just sayin'.
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Inc S (Same phone) was released months ago...just sayin
Sorry mods if this is a wasted post. I promise not to do it again. But I am super excited about my Z1 arriving next week. I was a former Verizon user days away from ordering a Droid Maxx when I learned about this waterproof beast of a phone. It was enough to make me ditch my unlimited 4g (selling on ebay). I'm excited to root this thing and start participating in the discussions here. Its great to see this level of support here. I've been looking over the sticky guides so I think I am caught up on the rooting process and what not.
So, is there anything else I should know or prepare for upon receiving this phone? Looking forward to chatting with you all.
welcome man, z1 is a great phone, perfect design
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Sorry mods if this is a wasted post. I promise not to do it again. But I am super excited about my Z1 arriving next week. I was a former Verizon user days away from ordering a Droid Maxx when I learned about this waterproof beast of a phone. It was enough to make me ditch my unlimited 4g (selling on ebay). I'm excited to root this thing and start participating in the discussions here. Its great to see this level of support here. I've been looking over the sticky guides so I think I am caught up on the rooting process and what not.
So, is there anything else I should know or prepare for upon receiving this phone? Looking forward to chatting with you all.
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Welcome aboard and whatever you do, do not unlock it for now (and atleast do a TA-Backup). And if you're wondering why or what I'm talking about, do some more reading
Welcome, sent mine back a few days ago because my screen has a yellow hue (and the .257 update didn't fix it, should be getting a new unit in a week or so).
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Welcome aboard and whatever you do, do not unlock it for now (and atleast do a TA-Backup). And if you're wondering why or what I'm talking about, do some more reading
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Oh I caught that in my reading. I need the camera a lot and hoping timeshift will help me catch my elusive niece. Not too worried about custom roms yet, just need root to be happy. Thanks
Hi mate, welcome
Sent from my Z1
Also get a front and back screen protector and put it on the minute it comes out of the box.
For some reason unbeknownst to mankind, the people at Sony thought it necessary to laminate the scratch resistant Dragontrail glass with a satanic scratch prone plastic film.
They completely ****ed it up to be honest.
Yest soft lint will seemingly scratch it so make sure you cover both sides if you hate nasty scratches.
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Just got my Xperia Z1 to replace for Nexus 5 32gb today. Much better than any phone I have ever used before.
I also bought a case to protect it and Apple earpods for high music quality.
http://www.amazon.com/Apple-MD827LL...&qid=1385254462&sr=1-1&keywords=apple+earpods
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E2R4NNW/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1.
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Just got my Xperia Z1 to replace for Nexus 5 32gb today. Much better than any phone I have ever used before.
I also bought a case to protect it and Apple earpods for high music quality.
http://www.amazon.com/Apple-MD827LL...&qid=1385254462&sr=1-1&keywords=apple+earpods
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E2R4NNW/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1.
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Awesome, but LOL at apple earpods for high music quality. The in-box sony earpods sounds far better imo.
Also just saying Hi
Hey Guys
I don't normally do this but I'm SOOOOO excited about getting this phone that I also want to say Hi I should be receiving my Z1 tomorrow or Tuesday! It's an upgrade on my cellular contract :victory: Actually its the first time that I will be getting a current flagship device. I have been an avid Samsung supporter (old device is a Galaxy S2) but because of Samsung's unwillingness and flat out refusal to support the development community it has made me despise them to the nth degree! I will never, ever in my life get another Samsung device ever again! I originally wanted a Nexus 5 but South Africa does not (and it seems will never) provide the Nexus devices (tablets yes, but phones, no). They used too but stopped after the Galaxy Nexus. Trust me, a lot of people are unhappy about that in this country.
Anyway, the next option was Sony Z1 and to be honest, quite frankly I think I would have gone for the Sony anyway as this device is a MONSTER phone! The specs are outstanding and it will definitely be a top tier device for at least the next 2 years until my next upgrade. LOL, to be honest after Codworks and Entropy's praise of Sony, was the final deciding factor for me. I hope Samsung reads this because they lost a loyal customer and the dev community does indeed influence peoples choices, albeit the minority that we are but still, I have spread my hate wings of Samsung far and wide and have even influenced others not to buy them or go with their devices. Anyway, enough with the rants, I'm wiping my feet off on Samsung and that's that.
So proud to be a part of the Z1 community now! I know this device does have issues with unlocking the bootloader and breaking the camera but it has just recently being released so I'm pretty confident Sony will sort it out (as it is their flagship device after all!)
I never flash any of my phones with custom firmware or even stock from a different region until I have done extensive research on the device, so don't expect any silly questions from me as it will be a while until I know I am confident in what I am doing.
Anyway, hope you guys have an awesome day and I'm so exited I don't think I can even sleep well tonight!!
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Hey Guys
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Hehe cute post, I'm happy for you! :good:
You should root it though, it doesn't need unlocked BL for that. And yea, Samsung is a no no from now on.
Yeah, its general chit-chat thread for the Moto X. there are some talks, question which don't' deserve dedicated threads so decided to put a common thread for such talks.
Here is fist query from my side:
Here is promotional video of the MotoX. I want to know which audio track is this? Maybe this is Motorola's own track which may not be available as commercial but I am in love with the track, especially the track gets interesting at the ending. Want to know what genre is this or any other closest audio track which resembles with this. Here is the video, please listen:
thank you
http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/11/moto-x-review-2014/
Great great review!
10/10 will buy just need release already
Seems like the 17th is the rumor
Can we expect this kind of durability form the new Moto X ?? I don't think so. Bigger the phone grows, more fragile it. And the new model seems like has turned into more delicate device after adding that bigger display and thing metallic bezel.
I also seen similar tests for Samsung Galazy (S5 or similar) and LG G3 and all of them failed the tests.
What do you all think will happen with Moto since Punit Soni resigned? If someone is knowledgeable in business matters, with the company still do what they've been doing without the VP of product management?
Sent from my Nexus 4
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What do you all think will happen with Moto since Punit Soni resigned? If someone is knowledgeable in business matters, with the company still do what they've been doing without the VP of product management?
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No doubt he have had important role during Motorola's recovery days so this is definitely a loss. But here is another important thing that Motorola could fight back because of one magic combination : Google+Motorola.
Now Google doesn't seem to be interested in manufacturing thus they sold Motorola to Lenovo after doing bit of successful experiments and keeping few Motorola patents with them. We have seen how good the three models launched by Motorola under Google's ownership have turned out.
Future success and reputation of Motorola will depend on how Lenovo operates the company. They bought ThinkPad unit from IBM and carried the character of those laptops. But they didn't buy the whole brand so obviously they didn't use the IBM brand name with those laptops. Here they have bought the whole company along with brand name so I just hope that they let the Motorola keep going in it's own way, they don't mix Moto phones with their own phones and sell the mobile phones with Motorola brand name. Motorola has got it's own fan following which has just increased in the past one year because of distinct image their phones .have built up in recent time. Lenovo should respect expectations of those fans.
I am hoping for good but smelling mixed kind of probabilities.
Jack Sparrow xda said:
No doubt he have had important role during Motorola's recovery days so this is definitely a loss. But here is another important thing that Motorola could fight back because of one magic combination : Google+Motorola.
Now Google doesn't seem to be interested in manufacturing thus they sold Motorola to Lenovo after doing bit of successful experiments and keeping few Motorola patents with them. We have seen how good the three models launched by Motorola under Google's ownership have turned out.
Future success and reputation of Motorola will depend on how Lenovo operates the company. They bought ThinkPad unit from IBM and carried the character of those laptops. But they didn't buy the whole brand so obviously they didn't use the IBM brand name with those laptops. Here they have bought the whole company along with brand name so I just hope that they let the Motorola keep going in it's own way, they don't mix Moto phones with their own phones and sell the mobile phones with Motorola brand name. Motorola has got it's own fan following which has just increased in the past one year because of distinct image their phones .have built up in recent time. Lenovo should respect expectations of those fans.
I am hoping for good but smelling mixed kind of probabilities.
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I am loving the detailed post. Hopefully good things are to come, despite a loss
Sent from my Nexus 4
I panicked a little when I went to log into XDA today, I thought I was forced to use Google+ to log in which would not be good.
Jack Sparrow xda said:
Future success and reputation of Motorola will depend on how Lenovo operates the company. They bought ThinkPad unit from IBM and carried the character of those laptops. But they didn't buy the whole brand so obviously they didn't use the IBM brand name with those laptops. Here they have bought the whole company along with brand name so I just hope that they let the Motorola keep going in it's own way, they don't mix Moto phones with their own phones and sell the mobile phones with Motorola brand name. Motorola has got it's own fan following which has just increased in the past one year because of distinct image their phones .have built up in recent time. Lenovo should respect expectations of those fans.
I am hoping for good but smelling mixed kind of probabilities.
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Based on the way they treated the thinkpad branding, I think there is a good chance they will make Motorola/Moto a line of the Lenovo brand. Lenovo are very good at driving down supply-chain cost. I think Motorola actually has a chance to increase global market share with them as a lower-price alternative to Samsung built with decent product design and quality. I'm not sure that is what I would want, but it would keep Motorola relevant.
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Based on the way they treated the thinkpad branding, I think there is a good chance they will make Motorola/Moto a line of the Lenovo brand. Lenovo are very good at driving down supply-chain cost. I think Motorola actually has a chance to increase global market share with them as a lower-price alternative to Samsung built with decent product design and quality. I'm not sure that is what I would want, but it would keep Motorola relevant.
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Lenovo shouldn't touch Motorola's product design and stuff. The only thing they should touch is the marketing side of it all. Maybe some of the camera stuff and battery also, but Moto is onto something with their Moto X lineup, and it'll only get better
Sent from my Nexus 4
i have the phone in my hands. so far, MUCH better than my Nexus 4. the speed is there. the audio for the music is a tad bit better. the back of the phone is nice, it feels smooth but not slippery. i need to test battery now, so i will post that in the other thread
Been using an iPhone 5s for 4 months. Oh boy how much I miss android . using art as well
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i have the phone in my hands. so far, MUCH better than my Nexus 4. the speed is there. the audio for the music is a tad bit better. the back of the phone is nice, it feels smooth but not slippery. i need to test battery now, so i will post that in the other thread
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Cool. I'm upgrading from nexus 4 as well. Mines coming in tomorrow! My nexus 4 was still perfectly smooth though.
lin013190 said:
Cool. I'm upgrading from nexus 4 as well. Mines coming in tomorrow! My nexus 4 was still perfectly smooth though.
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My Nexus 4 was dying in the battery department and it would always heat up. Moto X seems like the best mix of a Nexus and a consumer focused phone. I say consumer focused because Nexus phones have been targeted toward devs
sent from my Moto X (2014)
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My Nexus 4 was dying in the battery department and it would always heat up. Moto X seems like the best mix of a Nexus and a consumer focused phone. I say consumer focused because Nexus phones have been targeted toward devs
sent from my Moto X (2014)
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Agreed
Android L Coming this month to Moto Lineup???
Look at here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/general/android-l-month-t2878580
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i have the phone in my hands. so far, MUCH better than my Nexus 4. the speed is there. the audio for the music is a tad bit better. the back of the phone is nice, it feels smooth but not slippery. i need to test battery now, so i will post that in the other thread
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Many Congratulations
And you promised about review on plastic back cover, whever you get enough time And please some photos
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Android L Coming this month to Moto Lineup???
Look at here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/general/android-l-month-t2878580
Many Congratulations
And you promised about review on plastic back cover, whever you get enough time And please some photos
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I did say what the back of the phone is like earlier. What else do you want to know about the plastic? It's smooth but not too slippery. I don't think it's soft touch
sent from my Moto X (2014)
On the fence..
I cant decide if I want to get this. I loved the original Moto X but now I have the M8, which is great - no complaints, but I must confess I'm a phone junky (aren't we all?). I've looked at so many reviews and the only thing that still bothers me is the camera, and battery life compared to the M8. But then there's the next to pure android experience and motomaker....so tough.
The screen is worse than the M8 (lower brightness, worse contrast and viewing angles).
Their camera is horrible, when shooting pictures the right side is always out of focus. Even though they don't think it's the case for every M9, it says something about the QC of HTC. Besides that, the overall quality of the pictures are still far behind Samsung and others.
Worse battery than the M8, which seems to be because of the processor heating up.
And it's a whopping €750!!
http://tweakers.net/nieuws/101871/htc-one-m9-heeft-last-van-oververhitting-bij-zware-belasting.html
For those that don't know, tweakers is a very reputable tech site. It's like the Dutch version of Anandtech.
For those of you who hate Samsung, get the M8. The M9 is a straight-up downgrade.
I think I'll wait for more reviews before panicking
Still running pre release software...I'll wait and see how it does once it's actually released.
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The screen is worse than the M8 (worse contrast and viewing angles).
Their camera is horrible, when shooting pictures the right side is always out of focus. Even though they don't think it's the case for every M9, it says something about the QC of HTC. Besides that, the overall quality of the pictures are still far behind Samsung and others.
Worse battery than the M8, which seems to be because of the processor heating up.
And it's a whopping €750!!
http://tweakers.net/nieuws/101871/htc-one-m9-heeft-last-van-oververhitting-bij-zware-belasting.html
For those that don't know, tweakers is a very reputable tech site. It's like the Dutch version of Anandtech.
For those of you who hate Samsung, get the M8. The M9 is a straight-up downgrade.
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Dude no offense, but looking at your forum history I can see that you have signed up a couple of days before the official announcement of S6, spend a good amount of time to praise the greatness of Sammy, flaming severely Apple and HTC, demonstrating quite good amount of in-depth knowledge without providing any sources (except few posts) and using a lot of marketing methods to influense the rest of the readers with your opinion.
IMHO you are paid and your advise should be not taken seriously
Just my two cents, I am sorry if I am too suspicious, but people do all kind of weird stuff in the name of the holy Dollar
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Dude no offense, but looking at your forum history I can see that you have signed up a couple of days before the official announcement of S6, spend a good amount of time to praise the greatness of Sammy, flaming severely Apple and Samsung, demonstrating quite good amount of in-depth knowledge without providing any sources (except few posts) and using a lot of marketing methods to influense the rest of the readers with your opinion.
IMHO you are paid and your advise should be not taken seriously
Just my two cents, I am sorry if I am too suspicious, but people do all kind of weird stuff in the name of the holy Dollar
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You can call me whatever you want. I'm just trying to protect the non-fanboys who view this forum who might be considering the M9.
Just avoid it and get the S6. If you hate Samsung, then get the M8. There is no reason to get the M9.
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Still running pre release software...I'll wait and see how it does once it's actually released.
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You're being overly optimistic, imo.
This is what you'll get at release. Software updates won't change the bad camera, overheating processor, and the bad battery life.
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You're being overly optimistic, imo.
This is what you'll get at release. Software updates won't change the bad camera, overheating processor, and the bad battery life.
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And you're 100% overreacting to a phone that's not out yet. Software can indeed improve everything you just listed. Take a chill pill and wait until the phone had been out for a few weeks. Ridiculous.
I'll add that I am considering the S6 as well as the G4. But I'm not freaking out over an article or making a decision until true production units have been reviewed.
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And you're 100% overreacting to a phone that's not out yet. Software can indeed improve everything you just listed. Take a chill pill and wait until the phone had been out for a few weeks. Ridiculous.
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lol...
Okay. I don't want to crush your spirit, so I'll maintain my non-fanboy views and buy the best device on the market regardless of branding. Everyone else can keep hoping that these issues will be fixed when they won't.
- Disappointed M8 owner
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And you're 100% overreacting to a phone that's not out yet. Software can indeed improve everything you just listed. Take a chill pill and wait until the phone had been out for a few weeks. Ridiculous.
I'll add that I am considering the S6 as well as the G4. But I'm not freaking out over an article or making a decision until true production units have been reviewed.
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It's not overreacting. It's trolling
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lol...
Okay. I don't want to crush your spirit, so I'll maintain my non-fanboy views and buy the best device on the market regardless of branding. Everyone else can keep hoping that these issues will be fixed when they won't.
- Disappointed M8 owner
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You missed my addition that I'm considering the S6 as well as the G4. Won't make a decision until true production units have been reviewed. You're comical, though.
Go troll somewhere else :good:
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