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Sales still rocketing on. Will it be enough to get proper support?

I was very pleased to read this-
http://www.gsmarena.com/200000_samsung_glaxy_s_phones_sold_in_south_korea_in_10_days-news-1786.php
Considering the fact that stocks sell off like hot scones in the UK and there are even shortages, and the fact that the device is selling well in the U.S even before carrier-based versions started selling, i see a bright future for the Galaxy S platform.
If in south korea alone it sold 200,000 , and in the UK Clove, Expansys and Handtec had severe shortages untill several days ago, i'm guessing it already sold over 300-350K worldwide.
Again, even before carriers around the world started marketing it.
Now i want to see what happens after carriers around the world start selling it, if these kinds of numbers will continue to flow in, i think it's close to impossible that samsung won't support it for a prolonged period.
Share your 2 cents, i'm having great expectations right now.

Pika007 said:
If in north korea alone it sold 200,000 ,
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Thank you, that made my day

^ Yeah, I lol at that one.
But OP, your right. This is Samsung's all out effort to gain marketshare in the smartphone area. They are #2 when it comes to feature phones (dumb phones). However, in smartphone market, they are #4 or 5. In fact, last quarter they LOST market share. Analysts have projected that in a few years, the majority of phones sold will be smartphones, so it is imperative for Samsung to gain market share and win over customers. You can not do that with products that are unsupported. I bet they got a wake up call when HTC came out of no where and gained market share quicker then Samsung did. In fact HTC (which is very small company compared to Samsung), has a greater market share than the big ol Samsung. They know for a fact that with increased relations with developers, that their handsets have gained sales. Samsung created an open source distribution website where source codes for most of their products have been released since April of this year. So that is a good positive step in the right direction. Also, we all know Samsung makes great hardware, however their software side has been less stellar. Its beginning to be changed as more money and resources are pouring into the software side.(Bada, new R&D center in India devoted to software, new emphasis by corporate to focus more money in software etc).
I hope we are right.

As far as I can see, Samsung is winning customers over HTC right now. I am one of those, and I spotted many others in the forums.
IMO the point is that HTC's success has been largely undeserved, but rather based on the efforts of people here on XDA; on the contrary, it looks like they did everything they could to make people run away screaming. Despite all the work that has been done, even developers on XDA have never found a way to get a performance from, say, the Touch HD that could at least be called acceptable, if you look at the specs. Marketing a device as the "ultimate multimedia experience" and then selling it without proper drivers, is just pure BS. And this incredible problem affected an entire range of products for at least two years.
So, I would say, HTC should be paying a much higher price than they are, for their behaviour... we'll see in the next few months. I know I sound harsh but I seriously hope they lose it. Samsung FTW

OP needs to change his topic to something less misleading. When i first glance your "bright spot" made me thought that the new phones have some defect in the screen.
I thought your post was to say that samsung sold many phones with defective "bright spots" on their screens.

Wtf is a bright spot anyway lol see thick ppl do buy **** fones lol
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INeedYourHelp said:
Thank you, that made my day
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Oh my
Fixed, although i'm sure even kim jong ill wouldn't mind a galaxy s.
And now can someone please translate AndroHero's post for me? i'm having trouble trying to discern what language is that.
Anyways, now that samsung is selling masses of their flagship phone, they have to be completely retarded to not support it properly. It would be equevilant to commiting suicide.
Also, it sold a lot on their "home court", if samsung will let even koreans down, their cellular department is going to take a major hit.

AndroHero said:
Wtf is a bright spot anyway lol see thick ppl do buy **** fones lol
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Is that an attempt at trolling? Your post doesn't make "sense" at all, please use the stock home screen.

gabbybob said:
No, it's because you're thick; now trot on son
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Well I must be thick too, cos I also made the same mistake and thought this was a bad news post, and relieved to see it was good news.
Since you are new here, you might try giving people the benefit of the doubt.

I'd change the title, but i don't see the option to.
Edit- Oh, here it is.
Better now?

Pika007 said:
I'd change the title, but i don't see the option to.
Edit- Oh, here it is.
Better now?
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Thanks Pika. Anyway, all those Galaxy's out there definitely a good thing.

Pika007 said:
I'd change the title, but i don't see the option to.
Edit- Oh, here it is.
Better now?
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Looks good to me. But I had no issue with the original title either.

TravUK said:
Thanks Pika. Anyway, all those Galaxy's out there definitely a good thing.
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Should be galaxies?

mickeko said:
Should be galaxies?
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You could be right....

A great copyrighting idea just popped in my head-
Samsung can make a centeral update/app center for galaxy devices.
The name?
Samsung Universe.

samsung
Hello,
Here is a little article about samsung vs apple, there is a nice section about production lines.
It's a Korean article transleted into English.
[too bad I'm new and can't post a link] To those still interested by the article, you can google search "askakorean apple vs samsung" first article!
It's maybe a bit out of context, but since you were talking about shortages.
If someone would be nice enough to post the link so it's easier for everybody

tellos said:
Hello,
Here is a little article about samsung vs apple, there is a nice section about production lines.
It's a Korean article transleted into English.
[too bad I'm new and can't post a link] To those still interested by the article, you can google search "askakorean apple vs samsung" first article!
It's maybe a bit out of context, but since you were talking about shortages.
If someone would be nice enough to post the link so it's easier for everybody
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Here's the link
http://askakorean.blogspot.com/2010/06/ask-korean-news-apple-v-samsung.html

Interesting to read someones opinion, but that's all it is. My other half is Korean, and she, like I work in the electronics industry and we're both intimately aware of how Korean giants like Samsung operate, the key element in the Galaxy S isnt rapid turn around, its a change in corporate policy towards the design of the phone, by involving hundreds of potential users in the development stages.
I also disagree with his premise that the iPhone 4 is a 'great' product. I've had a play with an iPhone 4 and I think it suffers from Form over Function. It's actually a little uncomfortable in the hand. It may be made from glass and steel and look great, but such hard materials with squared off edges and profiles doesn't sit right in your hand.
The objects we most commonly hold in our hands are cups/mugs, pens and computer mice. They're rounded and softened, ok household mugs are ceramic from a practical materials aspect, but even a travel mug has a rubberized grip.
I just don't get the hysteria over the IP4, when I look at it I do see a photogenic object, but I also see a design fail.

Leaving the comfortability issue aside, i'm bothered by the durability aspect.
Using superhardened glass may be good against scratches, but without a shock absorbing frame of some sort, the harder the galss- the more prone to shattering it will be, and harder glass shatters more catastrophically.
"regular" hardness glass usually gets cracks or little shattered points.
Superhardened galss- it's "all or nothing". Either nothing hapeens, or it shatters completely.
Deciding to put the glass ON the frame instead of IN the frame (like previous iPhones) was a much bigger design flaw than the less-round corners IMO.
I'm hearing a lott of buzz about samsung using mostly plastic, and how "inappropreate" it is for a super high-end device, but from a pratical viewpoint-
It's durable, it's cheap and easy to replace it's comfortable, and it doesn't block reception as much as more expensive materials.

Indeed, my BlackBerry is plastic, and that's never been an issue.

N1 makes Top 10 list

I just saw this post on CNN.com. The N1 is on there. Thought I would share
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/completelist/0,29569,2035319,00.html?hpt=T2

Here's the direct link. Go N1!
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2035319_2033840_2033834,00.html

That's pretty cool....finally recognized for it's greatness.

Wow, like seeing some great N1 news! About time!!

Hip-hip-hooray!

N1 also ranked higher than iPhone 4. sweet... Wondering why?

ah finally SOME recognition. But of course, the ipad was ranked number 1

I'm shocked that the N1 was ranked above the iPhone 4. I love my N1, but I have to say that the hardware on the iPhone 4 is incredible.
Perhaps it was rated lower due to its antenna issues.

Old MuckenMire said:
That's pretty cool....finally recognized for it's greatness.
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You guys must be reading a different article than I saw. The one I read was more of the same "sales didn't meet expectations, it's not really that great of a phone but more of a novelty" drivel that I've seen written by everyone who doesn't "get" it.
This year Google tried (and failed) to capitalize on customer frustrations with wireless-phone manufactures and their multiyear contracts as well as the dominant tech company's brand. Nexus One is the first and only phone designed specifically by Google to take advantage of its Android software platform. Nexus One, which Google called a superphone (I can almost hear the sarcastic quotes around "called"), wasn't quite the runaway success the search company had hoped for (failure). The phone was ahead of its time but by only months (== insignificant), and even though you could buy it without a contract, you could pick between only AT&T and T-Mobile (bummer)— and you had to pay a premium to do so (the nerve of them to charge money for excellent hardware!). Still, Nexus One owners get updates directly from Google and ahead of other Android phone users.
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It seems like for every positive thing they say, there's two more negative things said or implied. "Still, they get updates directly from Google" doesn't really sound like an appropriate closing statement to an article about a Top 10 piece of tech.
Compare that with the glowing praise for the iPhone4, which was rated one place BELOW the N1:
While sales of 1.7 million units in the first three days of availability are mighty impressive, the iPhone 4's 960-by-640-pixel screen resolution is even more impressive. No competitor has been able to stuff as many pixels into a 3.5-in. (9 cm) LCD. What's more, Apple's front-facing camera and FaceTime software have finally made mobile video chatting popular with regular people.
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:-/

codesplice said:
You guys must be reading a different article than I saw. The one I read was more of the same "sales didn't meet expectations, it's not really that great of a phone but more of a novelty" drivel that I've seen written by everyone who doesn't "get" it.
It seems like for every positive thing they say, there's two more negative things said or implied. "Still, they get updates directly from Google" doesn't really sound like an appropriate closing statement to an article about a Top 10 piece of tech.
Compare that with the glowing praise for the iPhone4, which was rated one place BELOW the N1:
:-/
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Is this from cnn also? Just remember that how many people work for cnn knows how to operate a phone. they're are not tech site like engadget our gizmodo our anybody that knows a lot about tech.they only look at the sales number and write **** they want. Probably the writer of that article is an iphone 4 owner that's why he is frustrated when the n1 tops their beloved one. I'd say most of the people there own an iphone or a blackberry device.
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Loving the way they rated the Samsung Galaxy S, with its broken GPS and relatively poor performance for its hardware as #2, LMAO. Lost all credibility for it the moment I saw that.

I was a N1 user who moved on to the iPhone 4 (passed my n1 to my better half), I was pleasantly surprised that it got the higher spot! But what I find interesting is the least coverage it got on Engadget.com, which proves their bias against android and to apple. Yes Mr. Topolsky, keep up the sarcasm on your biasness - extremely shallow and I am still upset about the horrid proximity sensor which you guys never covered properly on your review.

Glad to see it ahead of the iphone 4, but as someone else said its funny to see the still negative comments mixed in with the praise. Love my N1 almost a year later.

Happy to see our precious at #5
SamUserInterface said:
I'm shocked that the N1 was ranked above the iPhone 4. I love my N1, but I have to say that the hardware on the iPhone 4 is incredible.
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I'm not shocked at all, only the iphone screen is better, but smaller!. The Nexus CPU is twice as powerful. http://goo.gl/jPZcF

Any Sprint users keeping up with CES?

Something lovely was announced:
http://www.sprint.com/landings/lte/index.html?ECID=SEM:Google:P:Sprint:Samsung
Looks like I know what my next phone is. Discuss.

Been posted all over today. Not only here, but on every major media site.

I haven't seen any posts on here yet. But I do see it everywhere media wise. I'm pretty excited.

I post it yesterday and a ritard mod moved my thread.

Hmm making me question if I should of jumped to verizon
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Too bad they invested so much in the iPhone that their phones aregoing to suck til they make their money back.

z33dev33l said:
Too bad they invested so much in the iPhone that their phones aregoing to suck til they make their money back.
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Their phones are going to suck? Why? Did they make a deal for some Nokias?

Again, trolling, that which you so hastily bash. Their phones are going to suck because of the aforementioned reason. Note that nothing profound has been shown at CES in their favor as far as devices go and the last good exclusive they had was a rehashed HD2.

z33dev33l said:
Again, trolling, that which you so hastily bash. Their phones are going to suck because of the aforementioned reason. Note that nothing profound has been shown at CES in their favor as far as devices go and the last good exclusive they had was a rehashed HD2.
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Do you know anything before you open your mouth, or are you just that dumb? They have the Iphone 4s, the SGSII and the Gnex...I think that is a pretty good selection. As for trolling, that was a legitimate question. If their phones are going to suck...they must be nokias...

lowandbehold said:
Do you know anything before you open your mouth, or are you just that dumb? They have the Iphone 4s, the SGSII and the Gnex...I think that is a pretty good selection. As for trolling, that was a legitimate question. If their phones are going to suck...they must be nokias...
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I clearly stated, "exclusives." Though I suppose with your boundless rage towards me you neglect the opportunity to review valid points. I suppose that if you want to discredit Nokia, that's your call. My phone is not measured by it's processor, but by it's efficiency, speed, and build quality.

z33dev33l said:
I clearly stated, "exclusives." Though I suppose with your boundless rage towards me you neglect the opportunity to review valid points. I suppose that if you want to discredit Nokia, that's your call. My phone is not measured by it's processor, but by it's efficiency, speed, and build quality.
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They will always have your evo exclusives. Your views on business are absolutely horrible. You believe everything you read on the internet. Have you ever came up with an original idea? Im guessing no. Well, I guess buying a $500 phone for a 1 year old doesn't make you the smartest though, so it is to be expected.

Yup, just attempt to attack me personally rather than put forth a valid point. I'm used to it by now, and I could probably do it faster on a WP7.

We've made an impression?

Samsung Allegedly Concerned About Current Plastic Designs
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2013/04/13/samsung-plastic-designs/
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They should also be concerned about those fugly buttons and the crappy touch wiz
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EnIXmA said:
They should also be concerned about those fugly buttons and the crappy touch wiz
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Lol, +1, couldn't agree more
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EnIXmA said:
They should also be concerned about those fugly buttons and the crappy touch wiz
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As much as I dont like the look of TWUI, it is the most functional skin of any skin. I quite like it to be honest.
And I love buttons too. Having used Nexus 4 for a while, you get used to the on screen buttons as way of life, but capacitive buttons still have their own benefits. If I am to have buttons, I would rather have it the way samsung does than the layout on One at the moment.
Frankly Samsung has done the right thing this time around. There is no point in producing a phone with premium material if you cannot produce it in enough quantity by maintaining the quality.
S4 will sell on specifications and features alone. Note 3 being more premium is right way to go. S4 is for masses really.
We are all seeing how much this delay with One is costing HTC. Not to mention QC issues we are seeing in initial batches.
To be honest this whole premium material thing only lasts for few days. I am OCD about my phones, they are kept in case, I dont really care if they use metal or not. If it feels good in hand, has good developer support, fast and decent battery life, I am golden.
I am going for One simply because of curiosity. I have been thoroughly disappointed by my last 2 HTC phones (One X and DNA).
I hope One bucks the trend.

I read this earlier, who knows if it's true. Seems like people just throw random stuff out in the hopes that it sticks. I mean, sooner or later something they say has to be right. I have always said that Samsung should buy HTC and let them design the hardware and let Samsung do the software. A match made in heaven.

Touchwiz on the One would make me ****ing puke.

Funkym0nkey said:
As much as I dont like the look of TWUI, it is the most functional skin of any skin. I quite like it to be honest.
And I love buttons too. Having used Nexus 4 for a while, you get used to the on screen buttons as way of life, but capacitive buttons still have their own benefits. If I am to have buttons, I would rather have it the way samsung does than the layout on One at the moment.
Frankly Samsung has done the right thing this time around. There is no point in producing a phone with premium material if you cannot produce it in enough quantity by maintaining the quality.
S4 will sell on specifications and features alone. Note 3 being more premium is right way to go. S4 is for masses really.
We are all seeing how much this delay with One is costing HTC. Not to mention QC issues we are seeing in initial batches.
To be honest this whole premium material thing only lasts for few days. I am OCD about my phones, they are kept in case, I dont really care if they use metal or not. If it feels good in hand, has good developer support, fast and decent battery life, I am golden.
I am going for One simply because of curiosity. I have been thoroughly disappointed by my last 2 HTC phones (One X and DNA).
I hope One bucks the trend.
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You are disappointed by the One X? Give me a break
Unless you are not aware QC issues were quickly sorted and the device is the most well and hastily supported device in HTC history, I bet you've jumped ship so early you have no idea what your are talking about
I said it again n again I prey HTC will drop the mainstream game and become solely aimed at upper end, boutique and more expensive, then we will be done with all this non sense

hamdir said:
You are disappointed by the One X? Give me a break
Unless you are not aware QC issues were quickly sorted and the device is the most well and hastily supported device in HTC history, I bet you've jumped ship so early you have no idea what your are talking about
I said it again n again I prey HTC will drop the mainstream game and become solely aimed at upper end, boutique and more expensive, then we will be done with all this non sense
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Yes,
Screwing early adopters is never a good thing. I had to go through 4 One X before getting a good one. Leave the quality issues aside, but there were and are plenty of other things wrong with HTC handsets at the moment. That is discussion for other thread. But this notion that users are suppose to shut up and live with the problems when there are good alternatives is ridiculous.
I have bought flagships of all manufacturers over years. All of them. All HTC flagships since their first android. All Samsung and LG and even current flagships from xiaomi and Oppo. At this moment I have 5 flagship devices from 5 manufacturers with me. Mobiles are my passion. But I don't get attached to manufacturers blindly. I give fair shot to them. And the good ones end up being my daily driver. I still keep phones for few months on hope that company might turn things around or the xda development scene might get exciting for that device. And thanks to my business I do need to own multiple phone lines. So no, I have given HTC enough money and time and I am giving it to them again as I have Dev edition on preorder.
That does not mean I will be good little fanboy and say only good things about them.
From my Droid DNA, right in your face....

Funkym0nkey said:
Yes,
Screwing early adopters is never a good thing. I had to go through 4 One X before getting a good one. Leave the quality issues aside, but there were and are plenty of other things wrong with HTC handsets at the moment. That is discussion for other thread. But this notion that users are suppose to shut up and live with the problems when there are good alternatives is ridiculous.
I have bought flagships of all manufacturers over years. All of them. All HTC flagships since their first android. All Samsung and LG and even current flagships from xiaomi and Oppo. At this moment I have 5 flagship devices from 5 manufacturers with me. Mobiles are my passion. But I don't get attached to manufacturers blindly. I give fair shot to them. And the good ones end up being my daily driver. I still keep phones for few months on hope that company might turn things around or the xda development scene might get exciting for that device. And thanks to my business I do need to own multiple phone lines. So no, I have given HTC enough money and time and I am giving it to them again as I have Dev edition on preorder.
That does not mean I will be good little fanboy and say only good things about them.
From my Droid DNA, right in your face....
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I'm with you. Same story. Don't pay any attention to the other guy. He spews the same stuff over and over again.
As for Samsung, I'll believe it when I see it. I remember the S3 was supposed to be ceramic or something...
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What things no body is saying any good things its like a joy to just bash their devices for the stupidest of reasons
Give me a break, nothing besides the initial one x software and QC issues that you can call a disappointment, sorted in just 2 months, otherwise its now one of the best smartphones ever created
No body is screwing any body it's the life long story of early electronics adopters, nothing new and nothing specific to HTC
But alas like I said if we slab any other logo on their devices it would have been another story

hamdir said:
What things no body is saying any good things its like a joy to just bash their devices for the stupidest of reasons
Give me a break, nothing besides the initial one x software and QC issues that you can call a disappointment, sorted in just 2 months, otherwise its now one of the best smartphones ever created
No body is screwing any body it's the life long story of early electronics adopters, nothing new and nothing specific to HTC
But alas like I said if we slab any other logo on their devices it would have been another story
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I'd say battery life is a disappointment. My camera lens was scuffed within a week because of the design. My unit also had the Wi-Fi hardware defect. It has nothing to do with the HTC logo. I scrapped the Nexus 4 because of the weak glass too.
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Tetsumi06 said:
Samsung Allegedly Concerned About Current Plastic Designs
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As with all news coming from "our sources," take in to account who's putting the story out. All the sites are just quoting SamMobile which HTC's lucky not to have an equivelant of on their "team." The further out the news is, the more frequently SamMobile's wrong.
BREAKING: Samsung ditches own AMOLED and EXYNOS inside new Galaxy S IV
Posted by DannyD on 23 February 2013 at 10:01
Yes you just read the title of this message right. Our insider just gave us the first official “unconfirmed” specifications of the next generation Galaxy S, the Galaxy S IV. The Galaxy S IV will no longer use the Samsung EXYNOS processor and according to the latest rumours this processor has overheating issues. Today we can confirm Samsung will use the Snapdragon 600 and it is clocked at 1.9 Ghz which is 0.2 Ghz higher than the HTC One. The Galaxy S IV will have 2 GB of RAM and will come in three variants 16, 32 or 64 GB. As the rumours earlier reported Samsung is going to use a Full HD display. The Galaxy S IV uses a 4,99″ Full-HD SoLux Display we have no information if this is based on LCD3 like the HTC One. But a couple of months ago we posted the first hint regarding Samsung’s LCD factory is ready to produce Full HD panels from early 2013. And we also know Samsung’s AMOLED factory does have many problems with the production of full HD AMOLED screens.
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/02/23...xynos-inside-new-galaxy-s-iv-with-bootscreen/

Funkym0nkey said:
Yes,
Screwing early adopters is never a good thing. I had to go through 4 One X before getting a good one. Leave the quality issues aside, but there were and are plenty of other things wrong with HTC handsets at the moment. That is discussion for other thread. But this notion that users are suppose to shut up and live with the problems when there are good alternatives is ridiculous.
I have bought flagships of all manufacturers over years. All of them. All HTC flagships since their first android. All Samsung and LG and even current flagships from xiaomi and Oppo. At this moment I have 5 flagship devices from 5 manufacturers with me. Mobiles are my passion. But I don't get attached to manufacturers blindly. I give fair shot to them. And the good ones end up being my daily driver. I still keep phones for few months on hope that company might turn things around or the xda development scene might get exciting for that device. And thanks to my business I do need to own multiple phone lines. So no, I have given HTC enough money and time and I am giving it to them again as I have Dev edition on preorder.
That does not mean I will be good little fanboy and say only good things about them.
From my Droid DNA, right in your face....
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Epic post, I feel the exact same way as I have used many phones from many different manufacturers, even different OS. The folks that enjoy tech the most are those that keep an open mind and see good things in all brands, not the close minded that are stubborn, in fact they are the most unhappy.

Funkym0nkey said:
Yes,
Screwing early adopters is never a good thing. I had to go through 4 One X before getting a good one. Leave the quality issues aside, but there were and are plenty of other things wrong with HTC handsets at the moment. That is discussion for other thread. But this notion that users are suppose to shut up and live with the problems when there are good alternatives is ridiculous.
I have bought flagships of all manufacturers over years. All of them. All HTC flagships since their first android. All Samsung and LG and even current flagships from xiaomi and Oppo. At this moment I have 5 flagship devices from 5 manufacturers with me. Mobiles are my passion. But I don't get attached to manufacturers blindly. I give fair shot to them. And the good ones end up being my daily driver. I still keep phones for few months on hope that company might turn things around or the xda development scene might get exciting for that device. And thanks to my business I do need to own multiple phone lines. So no, I have given HTC enough money and time and I am giving it to them again as I have Dev edition on preorder.
That does not mean I will be good little fanboy and say only good things about them.
From my Droid DNA, right in your face....
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I agree completely. Loyalty is the quality of the ignorant consumer. The smart consumer is never loyal to any brand; he goes to whichever product is best for him regardless of who manufactured it.

MohJee said:
I agree completely. Loyalty is the quality of the ignorant consumer. The smart consumer is never loyal to any brand; he goes to whichever product is best for him regardless of who manufactured it.
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And what of companies failing in CSR? Would you still buy their product just because it is the best? This is only one example. A smart consumer can also be loyal. In fact, a smart consumer should be loyal.

ataft said:
And what of companies failing in CSR? Would you still buy their product just because it is the best? This is only one example. A smart consumer can also be loyal. In fact, a smart consumer should be loyal.
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Well I guess we all went way OT lol but one last point. You're right, being a loyal consumer is a good thing ( although I disagree that you should be like you mentioned, it's a personal choice). The issue is that some consumers are loyal to one brand and dismiss or try to discredit other brands or one brand in particular(definition of a fanboy), that's the issue that we are discussing.

Competition is always good and if HTC forces Samsung to up the game and use better materials then that is all good in my opinion.

BarryH_GEG said:
As with all news coming from "our sources," take in to account who's putting the story out. All the sites are just quoting SamMobile which HTC's lucky not to have an equivelant of on their "team." The further out the news is, the more frequently SamMobile's wrong.
BREAKING: Samsung ditches own AMOLED and EXYNOS inside new Galaxy S IV
Posted by DannyD on 23 February 2013 at 10:01
Yes you just read the title of this message right. Our insider just gave us the first official “unconfirmed” specifications of the next generation Galaxy S, the Galaxy S IV. The Galaxy S IV will no longer use the Samsung EXYNOS processor and according to the latest rumours this processor has overheating issues. Today we can confirm Samsung will use the Snapdragon 600 and it is clocked at 1.9 Ghz which is 0.2 Ghz higher than the HTC One. The Galaxy S IV will have 2 GB of RAM and will come in three variants 16, 32 or 64 GB. As the rumours earlier reported Samsung is going to use a Full HD display. The Galaxy S IV uses a 4,99″ Full-HD SoLux Display we have no information if this is based on LCD3 like the HTC One. But a couple of months ago we posted the first hint regarding Samsung’s LCD factory is ready to produce Full HD panels from early 2013. And we also know Samsung’s AMOLED factory does have many problems with the production of full HD AMOLED screens.
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/02/23...xynos-inside-new-galaxy-s-iv-with-bootscreen/
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There was a real image of an LCD S4 prototype. My friend said he had seen 3 different S4 prototypes. And the article of OP also mentioned about the metal prototype of S4.
And for the question about the touchwiz, I'm sure MultiWindow is the desire of any smartphone user (more or less, but I think nobody doesn't want it in their phone)

Build quality goes out the window when you put a decent case on your phone so who cares man.

daleski75 said:
Competition is always good and if HTC forces Samsung to up the game and use better materials then that is all good in my opinion.
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Competition is the mother of innovation. Personally I set my top criteria when looking for a new phone: will it feel
robust in my hand. This always leads me back to aluminium (granted, 2nd criteria is: Not Apple)
hung2900 said:
And for the question about the touchwiz, I'm sure MultiWindow is the desire of any smartphone user (more or less, but I think nobody doesn't want it in their phone)
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I certainly don't want multi-window on any platform below 8 inches. No matter what res you're running there just isn't enough physical realestate (that chat-head that FB messenger pushed out is getting disabled! There's no part of the screen it WON'T get in the way)
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Disturbing

Based on my experience with this site I'd say they're spot-on with these measures.
Doing a little re-evaluation.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8687/the-nexus-6-review

Incredibly disturbing
" Overall, I think that Google and Motorola have built a solid device. It isn't without its issues, but there's a lot to like, even if you're someone who has never used a phablet before."

This has been covered plenty of times already in the official reviews thread.

Do you also believe that Nexus 5 can do 8 hours wifi browsing?
That's disturbing also, no?
Skripka said:
Incredibly disturbing
" Overall, I think that Google and Motorola have built a solid device. It isn't without its issues, but there's a lot to like, even if you're someone who has never used a phablet before."
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rockky said:
Based on my experience with this site I'd say they're spot-on with these measures.
Doing a little re-evaluation.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8687/the-nexus-6-review
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I'm not doubting the site, but I am highly doubting their review unit. This one as well as Arstechnica seems to have vastly different reviews than everyone else, especially on battery life, screen quality, speed, etc. I'd keep an eye out for updated reviews with the updated build and see what happens
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What's the most disturbing is that OP believes that a single mixed review warrants its own thread
Disturbing...

Considering that they likely used the pre-release OS to review on and not the one that was followed by an OTA update on the 12th its no surprise there are issues. Hell the WiFi drain issue was still prominent which is why Google delayed the release of 5.0 to other Nexus devices until it was patched proper.
The review is full of inconsistencies and a few errors as well (listing the screen as a SUPER AMOLED when it is clearly just an AMOLED) if anything is disturbing here is the fact that AnandTech seems to be dwindling in tech common sense and quality since Anand stepped away from the site earlier this year.

Dr Faustus said:
Considering that they likely used the pre-release OS to review on and not the one that was followed by an OTA update on the 12th its no surprise there are issues. Hell the WiFi drain issue was still prominent which is why Google delayed the release of 5.0 to other Nexus devices until it was patched proper.
The review is full of inconsistencies and a few errors as well (listing the screen as a SUPER AMOLED when it is clearly just an AMOLED) if anything is disturbing here is the fact that AnandTech seems to be dwindling in tech common sense and quality since Anand stepped away from the site earlier this year.
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I would agree that Anandtech isn't worth going to anymore. They have slipped a lot over the years and I personally don't use them at all anymore for any review.

eskomo said:
I would agree that Anandtech isn't worth going to anymore. They have slipped a lot over the years and I personally don't use them at all anymore for any review.
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Agreed, the Android Authority review I found to be a good representation of what we can expect and unbiased to the device and OS.

Dr Faustus said:
if anything is disturbing here is the fact that AnandTech seems to be dwindling in tech common sense and quality since Anand stepped away from the site earlier this year.
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eskomo said:
I would agree that Anandtech isn't worth going to anymore. They have slipped a lot over the years and I personally don't use them at all anymore for any review.
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Yup Anand has been going downhill for a long while. Few on XDA probably remember Anand's screwup of 3dfx GPU reviews.
Of the Big 3 first independent tech review sites: Anand, Tom's, and [H]ardOCP...[H] is the only one left. All the others long since fell by the wayside.

Disturbing maybe, but I will leverage this review with a few facts:
a) this is just one review, the others have been pretty positive
b) this will be an unlocked Nexus phone on Verizon
c) these phones receive the most updates, it will be improved upon. My Nexus 10 is still an amazing tablet.
I will still be getting this device and throwing my Galaxy S5 in a very hot fire.

cbrehob said:
Disturbing maybe, but I will leverage this review with a few facts:
a) this is just one review, the others have been pretty positive
b) this will be an unlocked Nexus phone on Verizon
c) these phones receive the most updates, it will be improved upon. My Nexus 10 is still an amazing tablet.
I will still be getting this device and throwing my Galaxy S5 in a very hot fire.
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Be advised, Li batteries don't react well to fires.

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Nexus 6 Full Review Compilation
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