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http://www.thoughtgadgets.com/2007/11/game-over-3-reasons-why-google-android.html
Ok, so this is of course old news, I just stumbled over the article by accident a few minutes ago and thought I'd share because of the hilarity of it all. It was a pretty laughable article in 2007, but even more so now when Android is in full swing and is getting better by the month and more and more manufacturers joins the OHA.
Hindsight 20/20 and all that, but most of us hardcore Androiders knew Android would not fail, despite what a few self-proclaimed experts said on their blogs. We knew it even as far back as 2007/2008. Ben Kunz obviously didn't, though.
Lol just read this Ben Kunz what a MOD EDIT
think of your choice of wording when you post.
thank you
I remember reading this a long time ago. I laughed then, but it is even funnier now. The comments are almost equally funny.
To answer Ben Kunz article
Android to grow faster than iPhone in 2009?
http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/05/11/android.to.grow.900pc/
xxvtcxx said:
Android to grow faster than iPhone in 2009?
http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/05/11/android.to.grow.900pc/
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It's heartening news, but you gotta consider that percentage growth is one of those marketing spin numbers. A platform that is selling 1M units in 2008 experiencing a 900% growth sells an additional 9M. A platform selling 10M units in 2008 only has to grow 90% to experience the same increase in sales growth.
Well, to be honest, if the G1 looked like that prototype picture...I wouldn't have bought it. That is one seriously ugly looking phone with a tiny ass screen.
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Well, to be honest, if the G1 looked like that prototype picture...I wouldn't have bought it. That is one seriously ugly looking phone with a tiny ass screen.
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True, but as a self-proclaimed expert on all things tech he should of course have known Android is not about hardware (let alone about prototype hardware). Android is about software.
I knew that as soon as I first heard and read about Android back in 2007, I bet you knew that, and I also bet most people on this forum knew that -- we knew the possibilities was and is almost endless. Ben Kunz, however, did not. And he wrote a downright stupid article about it, showing off his ignorance.
It did bring us lots of amusement though, so kudos to Ben for making a fool out of himself
Think about google as a company. Starting with a school project and growing to what is now. Everything google owns is destined to succeed. They have a huge master plan and everything they do/own is tied into each other in one way or another.
CBowley said:
Think about google as a company. Starting with a school project and growing to what is now. Everything google owns is destined to succeed. They have a huge master plan and everything they do/own is tied into each other in one way or another.
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You mean they have synergy? LOL
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Well, to be honest, if the G1 looked like that prototype picture...I wouldn't have bought it. That is one seriously ugly looking phone with a tiny ass screen.
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I've got one of the prototype phones for testing... while its no G1, the keyboard is a lot nicer to use. For folks who just want a simple lightweight texting phone, I can see it being pretty attractive.
Some pix:
http://picasaweb.google.com/jashsu/EXCA300?authkey=Gv1sRgCMjAkfWGiaD0Tw#
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I've got one of the prototype phones for testing... while its no G1, the keyboard is a lot nicer to use. For folks who just want a simple lightweight texting phone, I can see it being pretty attractive.
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http://picasaweb.google.com/jashsu/EXCA300?authkey=Gv1sRgCMjAkfWGiaD0Tw#
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"Main screen turn on" -- That's absolutely brilliant!
1 reason why that article fails.
Android is awsome.
Nuff' said.
Sure won't turn to them for marketing advice lol.
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Sure won't turn to them for marketing advice lol.
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Well, maybe you could ask him for advice and then always do the exact opposite. I bet that would be a pretty effective strategy.
Sounds like he was one of the kids that mommy wouldn't buy him a RAZR so now he is having a temper tantrum. lol
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I've got one of the prototype phones for testing... while its no G1, the keyboard is a lot nicer to use. For folks who just want a simple lightweight texting phone, I can see it being pretty attractive.
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http://picasaweb.google.com/jashsu/EXCA300?authkey=Gv1sRgCMjAkfWGiaD0Tw#
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I hear what you are saying, but lets...for arguments sake...equate a cell phone to a woman (no offense to women...but its the best modern day analogy I can make at the moment).
Okay, men (in this case the generic term "men" means "customers") look for a woman, they want it all...sexy, intelligent, and able to do a lot of things (interpret that as you see fit).
A G1 fits most of that. A G1, while not the sexiest in the world, is decent enough looking...but what she lacks in looks she makes up for by being highly intelligent and capable of performing a variety of tasks you may hope she can do...as a woman.
The Android prototype in the picture may be able to do a lot of tasks, but she can't do everything...and, while intelligent, she is seriously to fat (wide), to short (squat and square) and way too fricken ugly to really be considered anything more than a friend (like when you look at your buddies cell phone that was a free give-away for signing a contract).
Now, to really get the whole package, Android phones need to take a page from Apple's book and make something super sexy like an iPhone with all the other Android and tech components in the G1...only with longer battery life.
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Well, maybe you could ask him for advice and then always do the exact opposite. I bet that would be a pretty effective strategy.
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Haha yeah that might work huh?
Honestly, I'm not too attracted to the iphone. It's plane, too skinny to be comfy, has one button, not my type. Maybe if she was the last girl in the bar at the end of the night i'd take her home, but i'd leave before she woke up and deny it to my friends..
The exact reason why Android based phones are going to blow away Apple and Blackberry.
http://www.googleandblog.com/adobe-...d-at-mobile-world-congress-in-barcelona/3785/
HAHA at "not even close".... suckers.
as per title there are so many threads trying to put people off buying the SGS, im almost positive they arent real sgs owners.
as the rumors of the 'not up to par' screen (wtf? i mean rly?) and laggy phone complaints, just seems to be spreading, somethings up
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as per title there are so many threads trying to put people off buying the SGS, im almost positive they arent real sgs owners.
as the rumors of the 'not up to par' screen (wtf? i mean rly?) and laggy phone complaints, just seems to be spreading, somethings up
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Hm, the above looks a lot like a "fanboy" post....
People compare phones all the time, and like it or not, the iPhone is a benchmark device for many.
For me, some aspects of the iPhone are better than the Galaxy S, some are worse.
Overall, I think I'll stick with the Galaxy S, since I love the screen and believe that Android is getting better. But, currently, the iPhone does provide an overall smoother, more polished user experience, and definitely better battery life, IMO.
Being objective does not mean one is a fanboy. Posting threads like this on the other hand....
screen wise i'll take AMOLED over the iphone iris whatever screen.
lag... well only affects the non tekki people, but even if i was technologically challenged, i'd not mind rebooting the phone.
heck all the previous phone i've had, it was normal thing to have to reboot them several times a day, specially windows mobiles ones, and all the memory leaks.
on PalmOS it was only when a specific software hungs
I don't care one bit.
I bought this phone for a reason, it stands up to what i wanted from it, and more.
Even if the army of apple fanboys tries to take people "off" buying this phone, i don't know if you follow the news, but it sells MASSES. Crossed over 1 mil units since launch, and that's even before U.S carriers launcehd it.
Plus it's supposed to arrive in 110 contries total, while now it only sells in 13 or so.
So let the apple fanboys say and do what they want, i don't feel any obligation to "fight" them.
Anyone who will get interested and see it's a good device- will take it, regardless of what iZombies say.
lol macboy shutup, i cant be a fanboy you silly ass, ive never owned a samsung
my point is the guy who wrote an essay about how bad he thinks the SGS is and why he is returning it, has got nearly 2000 views on that thread. will put people off and we want more owners for better support.
thanks
OP, do you consider me one of the iPhone fanboys making SGS look bad too?
BTW, which threads are you looking at that make you feel so persecuted?
You're free to write an essay about why you won't buy an iPhone too... I doubt it'll get very popular though, as there are thousands of those out there already.
it really comes down to "to each their own" choice to get a phone they "believe" is working the way they "think" it is working "properly" for them.
there is no such thing as a perfect phone, else there would be no need for XDA forums LOL
Phone comparisons are done all the time. people come to forums like this one, some to voice their point of view, some just want confirmation, but most just want comfort after purchase.
Each to their own seemed to be the best way. If you go to iphone forums, you will see iphone bashing posts no worst for wear than any other groups.
speaking of iphone fanboys
be sure to close the door and put your coffee down before watching this video
http://www.break.com/index/iphone-4-vs-htc-evo.html
All serious phone-blogs, that compared the iPhone 4 with the SGS
come to the conclusion, that the SGS is the better choise.
And for all the fanboys out there: the SGS does not drop a call
when you touch the bottom of the phone with your left hand!
You should go to a poor reception area and do a death grip on your SGS. This problem does affect SGS. I've tried it.
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lol macboy shutup, i cant be a fanboy you silly ass, ive never owned a samsung
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You are a fanboy..., you just don't know what you are a fan of
I think it's good to have varying opinions and threads - then people can see both the negatives and the positives and make a better informed choice.
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You should go to a poor reception area and do a death grip on your SGS. This problem does affect SGS. I've tried it.
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and how does the "death grip" work on the sgs?
what shall i do?
jesus - shield the antenna on any radio and it will not get a signal - wtf
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Bull, I tried and and at worst I lose a bar for a second or two.
I always laugh at people who think a phone is worth arguing over.
You pays your money, and takes your choices. There are some people to whom I would never recommend a Galaxy S TBH, and as an ex iphone owner, I still think the iphone is a great phone, but in the end, I was attracted to the google OS and the limitless customisation possibilities. I wanted this, but I also wanted a screen that could rival the iphone 4, and really only the Galaxy S in the UK can do that.
Frankly though, as a phone for the every day person, the iphone is so utterly superior - I wouldn't give my dad a Galaxy S, but I would give him an iphone. I dont think he could be bothered to flash firmwares manually or do NAND fixes or ROM upgrades. He just wants it to work straight away. However, its this "basicness" that put me off the iphone in the end. With some work, in my view, you can end up with a phone OS with Android that far surpasses any iphone in terms of sheer power and flexibility.
Each to their own though.
Frankly though, as a phone for the every day person, the iphone is so utterly superior
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And a single official firmware upgrade rumored to come next week can change all that. It's way too soon to draw conclusions like that.
Best advice right now for "the everyday person" is to keep their money in their pocket for a little while longer since neither phones are working like they should.
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Theres a difference between the SGS and the iPhone, SGS bars drop, but as a video out there on youtube shows, the download speed remains the same, even when going from 4 bars to 1 bar.
larryccf said:
speaking of iphone fanboys
be sure to close the door and put your coffee down before watching this video
http://www.break.com/index/iphone-4-vs-htc-evo.html
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I just cried laughing
Hey everyone, so I was reading this post from another Xda'er and was reading comments from almost a year ago from this article Here, I came across a post by a person that read this
"Same. iPhone is the de facto benchmark (for now) that this will likely beat by a good measure. The mitigating factor -- for some -- is if you need the variety of iPhone's apps. It'll be a constant balance between that flexibilit*y and the faster network/mo*re power this device is capable of."
This was on the comments section of the CTIA announcement of the Evo, I just came to the realization that I stopped comparing my phone to the iPhone long ago and actually started Benching it up with other Android Devices. I thought it was pretty funny, I mean I like the iPhone if it was on Sprint I would surely get one but now that I am seeing these new phones its just awesome!
Anyone else have a similar experience thus far?
Blitzpwnage said:
Hey everyone, so I was reading this post from another Xda'er and was reading comments from almost a year ago from this article Here, I came across a post by a person that read this
"Same. iPhone is the de facto benchmark (for now) that this will likely beat by a good measure. The mitigating factor -- for some -- is if you need the variety of iPhone's apps. It'll be a constant balance between that flexibilit*y and the faster network/mo*re power this device is capable of."
This was on the comments section of the CTIA announcement of the Evo, I just came to the realization that I stopped comparing my phone to the iPhone long ago and actually started Benching it up with other Android Devices. I thought it was pretty funny, I mean I like the iPhone if it was on Sprint I would surely get one but now that I am seeing these new phones its just awesome!
Anyone else have a similar experience thus far?
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The iPhone never really was the benchmark hardware-wise. They tend to release very competitive hardware for the release period (Ex: iPhone 5 will be one of the most advance phones released on launch) but a month or two later a newer better spec'd phone will be out (Like the SGS vs. iPhone 4). The one thing that the iPhone still continues to do good is in the optimization of it's software. With just one model a year to focus on, Apple will always make sure that iOS squeezes out as much performance from the hardware.
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The iPhone never really was the benchmark hardware-wise. They tend to release very competitive hardware for the release period (Ex: iPhone 5 will be one of the most advance phones released on launch) but a month or two later a newer better spec'd phone will be out (Like the SGS vs. iPhone 4). The one thing that the iPhone still continues to do good is in the optimization of it's software. With just one model a year to focus on, Apple will always make sure that iOS squeezes out as much performance from the hardware.
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Very true. I dont think I was comparing hardware when I first saw these phones, I was a complete noob I still had a samsung rumor let me tell you that phone was priceless it was a little brute! But I never really cared for specs on iPhones it was more or less how smooth the experience is like you said I commend apple with how amazingly optimized their software is. It is just awesome, I really wish android had this but it is still coming into its own my only fear is that new devices will keep being pushed out like candy and new ones will be completely forgotten after less than 6 months this will be the trend, if so android has no stable platform, I think this is fragmentation but hey it keeps getting better and look at the dev community here they do an AMAZING JOB, they are OUR optimizers just wish they had more back pocket to push them and more people to help like Apple does but then again they have to....I think I just typed what I was thinking....oh well hope some of this had a point.
my roommate has an iphone and they were all up in steve jobs bum about how awesome it is and didn't like my evo when I got it (had 2.1at the time) I didnt care much about how great the iphone screen was as it was too small for me, now that I think about it ever since I rooted I can't recall an instance when their iphone did something better
they are talking about how they want to jailbreak it now and I actually thought " how cute that they want to take their little toy out of the box"
my evo is far superior and I dont think the iphone is competition
With all respect, when can this forum grow up and stop with the iPhone comparison and bashing? It's really pretty gross after this long. It's like the little brother who beat his big brother in HORSE once and then talks about it for five years.
I'm not saying Apple deserves to be praised for everything they do, but at some point we should just realized that not only are these devices months old by now, but that in the end, nobody really cares if the iPhone is the "benchmark" or not. iPhone has the popularity, and Apple has the customer base which won't listen to a (bad) word you have to say about their device. You're essentially preaching to the choir with all these threads, and it's not really accomplishing anything.
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With all respect, when can this forum grow up and stop with the iPhone comparison and bashing? It's really pretty gross after this long. It's like the little brother who beat his big brother in HORSE once and then talks about it for five years.
I'm not saying Apple deserves to be praised for everything they do, but at some point we should just realized that not only are these devices months old by now, but that in the end, nobody really cares if the iPhone is the "benchmark" or not. iPhone has the popularity, and Apple has the customer base which won't listen to a (bad) word you have to say about their device. You're essentially preaching to the choir with all these threads, and it's not really accomplishing anything.
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Did you read any of my posts at all. I wasnt bashing the iPhone in any way at all I ACTUALLY SAID I WOULD BUY ONE....I would drop my android phone for an iPhone right now if it was on Sprint but its not and I like android all the same too. I wouldnt mind having both but seriously dude your post accomplished nothing and has proven you didnt read the 2 more verbose posts not that one guys where is he saying his phone can do anything the iPhone can, stop trying to be some hero and be "neutral" when I started this thread not as an iPhone bashing thread I had just realized this point and wanted to see if anyone else had, so before you hijack my thread and at nothing more I PLEAD with you to read what else I have written and edit your post with help information. I actually thing I described fragmentation which Applbots love to talk about Android Fanboys love to omit from their knowledge and sane people who dont really argue over it for we have XDA.
P.S. I dont know where you come from where my opinion doesnt matter, to me it surely does and I could give .02 if it matters to you, the thing is I was curious if anyone else had similar thoughts.
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With all respect, when can this forum grow up and stop with the iPhone comparison and bashing? It's really pretty gross after this long. It's like the little brother who beat his big brother in HORSE once and then talks about it for five years.
I'm not saying Apple deserves to be praised for everything they do, but at some point we should just realized that not only are these devices months old by now, but that in the end, nobody really cares if the iPhone is the "benchmark" or not. iPhone has the popularity, and Apple has the customer base which won't listen to a (bad) word you have to say about their device. You're essentially preaching to the choir with all these threads, and it's not really accomplishing anything.
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Pretty much. When that Iphone drops on Verizon people are REALLY going to see how popular that phone is. There are still a ton of people that want it but wont switch to at&t to get it. Both OS have their advantages but the thing that I still miss about IOS is the apps by far.
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With all respect, when can this forum grow up and stop with the iPhone comparison and bashing? It's really pretty gross after this long. It's like the little brother who beat his big brother in HORSE once and then talks about it for five years.
I'm not saying Apple deserves to be praised for everything they do, but at some point we should just realized that not only are these devices months old by now, but that in the end, nobody really cares if the iPhone is the "benchmark" or not. iPhone has the popularity, and Apple has the customer base which won't listen to a (bad) word you have to say about their device. You're essentially preaching to the choir with all these threads, and it's not really accomplishing anything.
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iPhone doesn't have the popularity anymore. Android has been outselling iPhones for months now. So, we have the more popular brand now.
Also, have you ever been on an iPhone forum? All they do is bash Android. They have whole threads dedicated to it. They have fake reviewers ***** about how terrible Androids are:
http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/29/htc-evo-4g/
They write on our YouTube videos (guides, reviews, just showing off the phone because we love it) being little brats and throwing insults my 12 year old brother would shake off and laugh at.
So, for a couple of Android loving Evo owners to complain about iPhone and it's users in a private environment not only shows more maturity than iPhone users, it shows respect to their videos and forums by not flooding the internet with useless, incorrect rabble. We can admit the iPhone owns benchmark without getting our panties in a twist, but even I'm sick of hearing about it on phonedog reviews for Android phones.
Leave them alone, you can avoid conversations like this, if you don't like them, using this guide.
ABSOLUTZERO'S GUIDE TO AVOIDING CONVERSATIONS YOU DON'T WANT TO READ.
Step 1: Hit the back button.
Step 2: Go enjoy the rest of your day.
The theme of your post is: "Sup guys I forgot about the iPhone. It's cool and all but these new things rock"
It's really pathetic. I know you're not the only one. But why can't we just enjoy our device without looking like a bunch of idiot underdogs that take every jab we can?
AbsolutZeroGI said:
iPhone doesn't have the popularity anymore. Android has been outselling iPhones for months now. So, we have the more popular brand now.
Also, have you ever been on an iPhone forum? All they do is bash Android. They have whole threads dedicated to it. They have fake reviewers ***** about how terrible Androids are:
http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/29/htc-evo-4g/
They write on our YouTube videos (guides, reviews, just showing off the phone because we love it).
So, for a couple of Android loving Evo owners to ***** in a safe place to one another about how annoying iPhone and it's users are and how much we hate the phone is not only understandable, it's probably better than if they posted phony reviews and spam youtube videos.
Leave them alone, you can avoid conversations like this, if you don't like them, using this guide.
ABSOLUTZERO'S GUIDE TO AVOIDING CONVERSATIONS YOU DON'T WANT TO READ.
Step 1: Hit the back button.
Step 2: Go enjoy the rest of your day.
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Ok. So he can have input, but I can't have input on his input. Got it.
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Ok. So he can have input, but I can't have input on his input. Got it.
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His input was on topic, your input was not. Of course, mine isn't either so technically we're both trolling now.
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The theme of your post is: "Sup guys I forgot about the iPhone. It's cool and all but these new things rock"
It's really pathetic. I know you're not the only one. But why can't we just enjoy our device without looking like a bunch of idiot underdogs that take every jab we can?
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Did you read one WORD even a single sentence, I stated I liked the iPhone, are you trying to troll, this thread needs to be cleaned up.
I admit that title was misleading and was ignorant apologies alright it sounded different to me at the time. It was more personable and was not intended for community interpretation.
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Did you read one WORD even a single sentence, I stated I liked the iPhone, are you trying to troll, this thread needs to be cleaned up.
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The thread doesn't need to be "cleaned up," the forum needs to be cleaned up. I'm pretty sure the name of the forum we're in is "Evo 4G General," as in, related to the Evo 4G - NOT some roundabout broad topic discussion about the iPhone. Go to the more general forums if you want to talk about that. I'll just keep talking about the phone, as this forum was meant, and deterring those who aren't. Sound good?
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His input was on topic, your input was not. Of course, mine isn't either so technically we're both trolling now.
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o/
sobis1dm said:
The thread doesn't need to be "cleaned up," the forum needs to be cleaned up. I'm pretty sure the name of the forum we're in is "Evo 4G General," as in, related to the Evo 4G - NOT some roundabout broad topic discussion about the iPhone. Go to the more general forums if you want to talk about that. I'll just keep talking about the phone, as this forum was meant, and deterring those who aren't. Sound good?
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First off, look at the link I posted, hmmmm thats not on topic at all, nope that is not about the Evo AT ALL, I changed the title of the thread seriously, grow up and drop it and stop hijacking my thread and maybe have some useful input...
Noob question not directed at the troll.
How do I report my own thread?
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First off, look at the link I posted, hmmmm thats not on topic at all, nope that is not about the Evo AT ALL, I changed the title of the thread seriously, grow up and drop it and stop hijacking my thread and maybe have some useful input...
Noob question not directed at the troll.
How do I report my own thread?
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Okay. Well I'll create a thread next time I'm on the toilet browsing Engadget on my Evo, and it'll be about the Evo. Sound good?
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Okay. Well I'll create a thread next time I'm on the toilet browsing Engadget on my Evo, and it'll be about the Evo. Sound good?
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Ummmmm, yea actually what will we be discussing.
P.S. You should police this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=785408
Its the Call of Duty Clan thread on the EVO 4G General section tisk tisk they must be policed... Do your best sobis1dm
Nah. That thread starts, "Flame me if you want." At least he's not blindly defending himself, and knows he's off topic.
I don't think benchmarks matter because... speed doesn't really matter much anymore.
Seriously I haven't had any lag issues with my phone besides the awful GPU.
Nowadays every phone seems to be strong enough to handle anything.
To me, features mean more than specs now... somewhat.
WARNING
this thread is going way off the rails. please stay on topic.
thanx
patelkedar91 said:
I don't think benchmarks matter because... speed doesn't really matter much anymore.
Seriously I haven't had any lag issues with my phone besides the awful GPU.
Nowadays every phone seems to be strong enough to handle anything.
To me, features mean more than specs now... somewhat.
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Speed does matter. Resolutions are increasing, animations and presentation are getting more sophisticated, etc. But the issue isn't the CPU, it's the GPU and I've been saying this for a long time. We don't need a dual core CPU to run the Facebook app; and it's unlikely that we'll be see many apps in the future that require that much power either. It just doesn't fit the on the go and small form factor use case of a smartphone. I still expect the power to increase but I think a much more logical progression in 2011 would be single core Cortex A9. It'd still be way more powerful than anything pre-CES and the power efficiency would be higher especially as the die size decreases even further.
The main bottle neck is the GPU. Think of every app that DOES require power to be smooth and fast: Google Earth, 3D view in Google Maps, fringe features like Live Wallpapers, and of course, games. Basically mobile apps will not need lots of computation power to process tasks but might need graphical power to display the information it outputs. So just pair up a =< 40nm single core A9 with a beast GPU (PowerVR SGX 545 or equivalent), a huge battery (1920 mAh like the Atrix 4G, and why not? the phones are HUGE now), smaller more efficient radios and components, and bam, you got a phone that'll eclipse all current phones, run super smooth, and last all day under heavy use.
Once Android is GPU accelerated it'll be hard if not impossible to tell the difference (visually, not through benchmarks) between a single core and dual core phone that shares the same GPU.
This review screamed "apple fan boy" from the start. Smdh at so many android haters in the world. Especially one who works for a irrelevant news outlet
He says the s3 has an outdated processor. Is he serious? Thy shows me he knows nothing about this phone
http://www.examiner.com/article/rev...axy-s3-is-just-another-ordinary-android-phone
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using XDA
phyba said:
This review screamed "apple fan boy" from the start. Smdh at so many android haters in the world. Especially one who works for a irrelevant news outlet
He says the s3 has an outdated processor. Is he serious? Thy shows me he knows nothing about this phone
http://www.examiner.com/article/rev...axy-s3-is-just-another-ordinary-android-phone
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First of all who is "examiner.com"? Secondly, the author lost all credibility with me when he wrote: However, you definitely feel the height and length when talking on the phone for a long time.What the heck is the difference between height and length?
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First of all who is "examiner.com"? Secondly, the author lost all credibility with me when he wrote: However, you definitely feel the height and length when talking on the phone for a long time.What the heck is the difference between height and length?
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Lol. Good point. Wth does that mean??
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That poor soul... c'mon guys give your sympathy to another iSheep added to the flock, scared to broaden his horizons. I pity the foo.
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He's more than entitled to his opinion but he should write about it intelligently.
Think the author of this article still drinks from a sippy cup, and needs to be led places, because he obviously has no thoughts of his own and is hand fed his knowledge from his mommy.... LOL... that or his IQ is very low.
All kidding aside this was so funny. I always love the apple fanbois.
I had the first iphone (before android was out), and I was part of the guys that was hacking it at version 1.02 of IOS, and figuring out jailbreaking and such.
I have owned Macs since the early 90s, but the iphone in my opinion is a kids toy, compared to Andriod based phones (much more customize-able, and "hack-able")
From the author of the article, "Fabio, any dual-core processor is outdated. The US version uses a dual-core processor."
I wonder if he even knows that his iPhone is outdated now.
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From the author of the article, "Fabio, any dual-core processor is outdated. The US version uses a dual-core processor."
I wonder if he even knows that his iPhone is outdated now.
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Why is this guy even writing tech articles he obviously knows nothing about technology.
Ummm... Because anyone can call themselves a blogger and publish what they want?
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I'm fed up with apple BS. I just had an argument this morning about android and ios with one of my close friend's who's also in IT. I'm an android fanboy but i can clearly say without any hesitation that apple does make great products. I had an iphone4, an ipad, and an apple tv. Good stuff. As much as I like their stuff, I don't think it's necessarily better; Just different. I like having a choice. I've been with android since day one and know that android is just as capable as any ios device, and in some cases more capable. I love than I can get a phone in any size shape or color from any carrier. Apple people think that's bad for some reason.
Ever listen to any of their presentations? They sound like this.
"70% of apple users upgrade to the latest version of our OS 100% more than any other OS. Today we're announcing that everyone can get the latest version for only... $20"
Does that make any sense to you? They actually said something like this at WWDC2012. Every one of their slides and charts has all sorts of skewed information and apple sheep eat it right up. Like when they say that the ipad has over 200k apps designed for it, then they diss android. But they don't mention that every single android app since ICS built for both phones and tablets. Nah they leave that part out.
Apple gets praised for selling OS updates for $20.
Windows gets slammed for giving people service packs for free.
Apple gets praise for updating it's last two iphones, but google gets slammed for only upgrading their last two and not the every other manufacturers phones. It seems unfair, and simply childish at this point trying to talk to apple people. God (for those who believe in him/her) could come from heaven and say that Android is really better, and apple people would still deny it.
This writer should be ashamed of himself for not only drinking the cool-aid, but for letting it skew his review and putting out bad information to consumers.
just left a nice comment under the name LearnGadget
Apparently many many people are annoyed with him...
Oh this kid clearly has never had 4.8" in his hand before
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Oh this kid clearly has never had 4.8" in his hand before
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He probably has in his mouth.
"The GPS eats a lot of battery life fast, so it's important to keep this off when you don't need it"
What? Really? So the phone uses GPS 24/7 now?
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"The GPS eats a lot of battery life fast, so it's important to keep this off when you don't need it"
What? Really? So the phone uses GPS 24/7 now?
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Yeah that guy is a tool that doesn't know what he's talking about.
That article is funny, he's obviously clueless.
He comments later, "any dual-core processor is outdated."
This one is pretty funny too, not as bad but some of the claims are really biased-sounding.
It's at gadgetreview . com, can't post links...
"Compared to the Galaxy S II, the newer Galaxy S III looks plasticy and somewhat poorly built. The back panel is a single bendable plastic glossy slab, and the front is all display. Compare that with the iPhone, or any recent high-end smartphone, and the GS3 looks like a kids toy from the back. "
"My opinion is that iOS is still the stronger operating system; it’s simpler, easier to manage, and anyone switching between the two OS’s will be better off with iOS in any case."
"Samsung has included some great additions using their user interface, but it isn’t likely going to make the overall OS better than iOS. "
I don't think the guy has even held a gs3. And a simpler os does not make a better os. And any iphone ive used is always cluttered because the home screen holds all the apps.
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I just sent him this in an email, not because he doesn't like a phone that I do, but because he's an idiot! Lol
Dear uninformed,
Wow is all I have to say! I own several smartphones and one of those is a US Galaxy S3 variamt. I'm well aware that you did not ever actually use one of them before you wrote this review.
If you in fact have used any of them, then you have zero credibility when it comes to technology! Even if you don't care for the phone, which I personally like but there are others I care for more, your conclusions of outdated processor, bad camcorder, and camera is not as good as the s2, are so completely far off from what is obvious to even a smartphone beginner!
Total crap journalism, and absolutely the most uninformed, uneducated, clueless "tech journalist" (if that's your title at this.... Blog Site?) that I have ever layed eyes on!
By the way, we are having a hell of a time laughing our asses off at you in a thread dedicated just for you at XDA!
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.... SELECT A NEW LINE OF WORK!
Bashing the Moto X's "dated, me-too" Design and second rate in-hand feel... compared to the iPhone 5s
LOL
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jonathan-littman/no-more-motogoogles-not-s_b_4293432.html
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Bashing the Moto X's "dated, me-too" Design and second rate in-hand feel... compared to the iPhone 5s
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jonathan-littman/no-more-motogoogles-not-s_b_4293432.html
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why are you surprised, the auther owns stock in Apple, was the first editor of Mac Week, and is routinely invited to speak at apple related events. So don't let a fanboi's article get you upset.
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why are you surprised, the auther owns stock in Apple, was the first editor of Mac Week, and is routinely invited to speak at apple related events. So don't let a fanboi's article get you upset.
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I'm surprised because he singled out a phone that is widely praised for it's design... one that actually has better ergonomics and feels better in hand than not only the iPhone he praises... but any other phone currently available.
Here's the comment I posted over there(that will likely never get approved):
This article is hilariously off-base from every other article being written lately about the MotoX... It is THE Android phone right now... Besting the HTC One, Galaxy S 4 and Nexus 5 in real world usage....
It is also widely praised for it's design and ergonomics... you know... exactly what the blocky, sharp-edged, iPhone lacks.
http://www.zdnet.com/attention-to-d...d-the-moto-x-a-place-in-my-pocket-7000023426/
http://blog.laptopmag.com/motorola-game-changer-2013
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I'm surprised because he singled out a phone that is widely praised for it's design... one that is actually has better ergonomics and feels better in hand than not only the iPhone he praises... but any other phone currently available.
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Ok, so you are surprised that an unabashed apple fanboi has negative things to say about an Android device.
This is the line that got me:
The Moto X flunked, flopped and tanked, and has already been dubbed the most disappointing smart phone of the year.
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By who? Most of the reviews I've seen have been positive. If anything about the Moto X has been a failure, it was how the launch was handled. Fumbling with Moto maker was their biggest mistake. This is because of its AT&T exclusivity. Prospective buyers would pass on the phone for other carriers because it appeared inferior. But bad sales figures does not a bad device make.
Design with a capital D is what is winning over Apple cohorts --that subtle combination of materials, weight, lines, and how it feels in your hand.
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This is an interesting thing to say, since the design of the 5S is almost completely unchanged from the 5. One could argue the "if it ain't broke" angle, but evolution is not revolution. Apple did not reinvent, it maintained.
In addition, "winning over Apple cohorts" goes against the earlier derision of "obedient bloggers." Are "Apple cohorts" not also in a camp of followers?
So yeah, Apple-happy post by Apple-happy person. Nothing to see here.
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Ok, so you are surprised that an unabashed apple fanboi has negative things to say about an Android device.
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no, I'm surprised by the arguments he chose to base his derision on... I mean, he specifically chose to argue fallacies.
It would be like me arguing that:
Android devices are over-piced, the iPhone and, in fact, all apple products are far less expensive that their non-apple competition.
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In addition, the lack of popularity of Apple products gives the user status as a trend setter. In fact, if you own one, you may very likely be the only person you know who owns one and may never see another iPhone.
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Also, the small screens available on android phones can't compare to the gigantic movie theater like display of the iPhone.
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And the sky is plaid.
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There ARE things you can pick on about the Moto X... and android in general... specifically in comparison to the iPhone... but the Moto X's design, ergonomics and in-hand feel... are not among them.
"Jonathan Littman was the first news editor of Mac Week magazine. He owns Apple stock and is the co-author of the Art of Innovation and Ten Faces of Innovation and founder of Snowball Narrative."
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What a pathetic article. What really amazes me is why people bother to even read tech news on huffington post. Why?
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What a pathetic article. What really amazes me is why people bother to even read tech news on huffington post. Why?
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Whats Huffington post? :silly:
But seriously think I read one article by them and was like... yea waste of time, lack of research, writting skills etc etc
Just another sheep lost in its own herd. Quite sad honestly lol
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Just another sheep lost in its own herd. Quite sad honestly lol
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I don't generally like to throw the 'fanboi' ball around so I won't.
No matter what you think of huffington post there's one thing they are really good at. Writing articles (and especially headlining them) for SEO and maximum traffic.
He has an opinion. HP gave it a great SEO headline. "digital divide"? really? Usually that means something else, but that doesn't matter if the hits keep coming in. Still it's just on person's opinion.
While I disagree with his opinion and love the design, feel and just about everything about my moto X there's one thing he's right about. This phone has not sold well. Certainly the roll out had an effect. Google saying it would be cheaper or there's a cheaper version coming didn't help. There were lots of reasons to hesitate... BUT I am not sure google/moto built this phone to be a hit. This phone is about the future of google, android and moto, and moto's reputation. Sometimes it takes a product cycle or two. Did anyone think Samsung would take over the world when the galaxy S was new? Hell I think for most of them the GPS didn't work.
When I bought my X it was between moto and apple. I can't say the design of either is bad. Apple is really good at design. They are also good at getting the most out of hardware. A lot of companies follow their lead. The moto x was the only phone out there trying to do something different and (IMO) doing it well.
Its just click bait and the 1/2 mil sold was only for the 3rd quarter
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Its just click bait and the 1/2 mil sold was only for the 3rd quarter
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Yes, but most phones do their best at the beginning of the product cycle. Prior to the release the buzz was that moto was going to release some crazy game changer that would fly off shelves and give samsung a run for their money. That's not this device. I think the X will be one of those phones five years from now that people will look back at and remember as the start of something.
True but then again all the pre-release everyone thought it was going to be a mid-tier phone and to just wait for the N5. The ATT exclusive didn't help either but I have to agree with you about the start of something
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Just another sheep lost in its own herd. Quite sad honestly lol
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Not sad at all! Quite funny actually. Such write ups make my day. I dont want him to state facts. I know that the Moto X kicks ass, I dont need some guy who doesnt have a clue to confirm it.
Now, if someone would be kind enough to point me to the youtube channel where some kid keeps spewing **** like his mother bought him an imac that has a touchscreen etc. Came across it a few years ago, but was foolish not to subscribe. Some said he was stupid while some thought he did it on purpose.
Yeah, I tweeted back to the guy that he didn't know what he was talking about. I just hate that articles like this one could hurt the Moto X sales and make Google/Motorola go another direction. Other articles also making a big deal about 500,000 sales in 3rd quarter being bad. Well - the phone was only out for 5 weeks or the 3rd quarter and was only on AT&T at the time. So you cannot compare that to worldwide sales of Apple and Samsung devices. What an idiot.
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While I disagree with his opinion and love the design, feel and just about everything about my moto X there's one thing he's right about. This phone has not sold well.
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Its just click bait and the 1/2 mil sold was only for the 3rd quarter
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Yeah, I tweeted back to the guy that he didn't know what he was talking about. I just hate that articles like this one could hurt the Moto X sales and make Google/Motorola go another direction. Other articles also making a big deal about 500,000 sales in 3rd quarter being bad. Well - the phone was only out for 5 weeks or the 3rd quarter and was only on AT&T at the time. So you cannot compare that to worldwide sales of Apple and Samsung devices. What an idiot.
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http://www.unwiredview.com/2013/11/...o-x-is-a-big-success-for-google-and-motorola/
It DID sell well.
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http://www.unwiredview.com/2013/11/...o-x-is-a-big-success-for-google-and-motorola/
It DID sell well.
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Yeah, but nearly every news outlet is saying it did poorly. Oh, the guy in the article also gave them crap for making a low cost (Moto G) phone - "racing to the bottom". What a sensationalist jerk.
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Yeah, but nearly every news outlet is saying it did poorly. Oh, the guy in the article also gave them crap for making a low cost (Moto G) phone - "racing to the bottom". What a sensationalist jerk.
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The news outlets dont realize they are comparing the global sales of other flagships to US only moto X sales
and yea jerks be jerks :|
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I don't generally like to throw the 'fanboi' ball around so I won't.
No matter what you think of huffington post there's one thing they are really good at. Writing articles (and especially headlining them) for SEO and maximum traffic.
He has an opinion. HP gave it a great SEO headline. "digital divide"? really? Usually that means something else, but that doesn't matter if the hits keep coming in.
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Precisely. This is a site that advocates against vaccination, so I find it hard to take anything they write seriously.
As for the sales, be careful with the 500,000 "shipped" number - that doesn't necessarily mean 500,000 "sold" - i.e. we don't know how many are sitting in storage.