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Really considering selling my atrix for a Sgs2

Please convince me not to do this! I've been really thinking about doing it ='(
I want a better camera , gingerbread , and I heard the gs2 has a better display

i don't understand why you need us to convince you to keep something. it's your own decision. if you want the SGS2, then get it. if you're happy with your atrix, then keep it. we all have different opinions and decisions. make your own, honestly.

lesonal said:
Please convince me not to do this! I've been really thinking about doing it ='(
I want a better camera , gingerbread , and I heard the gs2 has a better display
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I would trade mine in a heartbeat if this bootloader doesn't get unlocked. I am getting sick of the Motorola drama.

Do it. You wont regret it
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Any ideas on a good place to sell the Atrix and buy the SGS2 (or the Samsung Attain which will be the AT&T version of the SGS2)? I'm new on eBay so I'm a little worried that buyers wouldn't buy from me because I don't have any feedback. Any other options?

Think about it, try out the GSII if you are able, look at the dev threads and maybe wait a few weeks to see what the situation is for the Atrix compared to it. I know I certainly will consider it if/when the GSII comes to AT&T.
EDIT: Only other place I can think of is Craigslist. If you post plenty of pictures and a detailed description, that will help.

Just keep it and wait till the next Nexus comes out and then sell it
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Just keep it and wait till the next Nexus comes out and then sell it
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This is what you should do.
Also the processor and GPU on the Atrix is better than the one on the SGSII. When the Atrix gets 2.3 it will do circles around the SGSII.
There are only 2 things that will pull me towards an SGSII
1. Unlocked bootloader (this likely going to be locked when it comes to AT&T)
2. Super Amoled screen
If those are important to you go get it if not keep the atrix. The dev section is booming we might get the bootloader unlocked.

lesonal said:
Please convince me not to do this! I've been really thinking about doing it ='(
I want a better camera , gingerbread , and I heard the gs2 has a better display
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Tired of reading threads like this!
BYE!

I've got both handsets and to be honest the grass isn't necessarily greener on the SGS II side. Geez its a nice handset though, but I still believe 4" is the best size. I've found that the SGS II has a very plastic feel, and the back cover is so thin. I've been in a few situations where I've accidently sat down with the Atrix in my back pocket, and its survived easily, but I worry about doing the same with the SGS II. The SGS II probably isn't the phone I would take out drinking with the boys on a Friday night - I'm sure I would easily break it.
If you're looking for a speed comparison between Gingerbread handsets, it runs just as smooth on the SGS II as it does on my Nexus S (yes I also have the NS). There's no real difference between them IMO, (even though the Nexus S is single core). Where the SGS II shines is in having numerous widgets going and live wall papers at the same time - and although the lag is still there in momentary milliseconds, its no where as bad as the Atrix with live wallpapers going with Android 2.2. I think this is where Gingerbread shines though - and I'm sure the Atrix will perform similar when it gets Gingerbread. Its this very reason why, although I've been tempted to sell the Atrix as well, I'm prepared to hang onto it until it gets 2.3.
Damage wise, I've found the Atrix is easier to fix. For example, I dropped my Atrix onto my concrete driveway from low height and damaged the corners of the back cover - However, the cover was easily replaced by one from www.cnn.cn. As you know, the cover on the Atrix covers the corners, so when you replace the back cover, its all fixed. The SGS II isn't the same. If you drop it on the corners, you need to replace the entire body..! I'm not looking forward to this..
I think other than the shear size of the SGS II being a negative for me, I really wish the SGS II had qHD screen resolution. 800x480 at 4.3" on the SGS II is just bad IMO, although maybe if I hadn't gone from the Atrix to the SGS II, I wouldn't have cared. I feel I have been spoilt by the qHD though, especially when I view high resolution photos I've taken with my Canon 5D Mk II DSLR - on the SGS II, the sub-pixelation is a killer...
My 2 cents

lesonal said:
Please convince me not to do this! I've been really thinking about doing it ='(
I want a better camera , gingerbread , and I heard the gs2 has a better display
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I don't give a ****, and I don't know who else does. I'm sick of all these idiots thinking people care that "I sold my Atrix" or "Traded Atrix for Nexus S" or "Atrix or Wait for SG2" and the post that you just made, young sir, is no better. Look it up and make your own opinion, for God's sake. We don't need ONE MORE NONSENSE THREAD someone made asking which handset to buy, or informing people they have rid of their Atrix and/or got something else.

BravoMotorola said:
I don't give a ****, and I don't know who else does. I'm sick of all these idiots thinking people care that "I sold my Atrix" or "Traded Atrix for Nexus S" or "Atrix or Wait for SG2" and the post that you just made, young sir, is no better. Look it up and make your own opinion, for God's sake. We don't need ONE MORE NONSENSE THREAD someone made asking which handset to buy, or informing people they have rid of their Atrix and/or got something else.
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You know, sometimes you have to just get out there and say how you feel.

I'm starting to think Samsung fanboys are worse than apple fanboys. After all, we don't get iphoners in here talking trash all the time.

BravoMotorola said:
I don't give a ****, and I don't know who else does. I'm sick of all these idiots thinking people care that "I sold my Atrix" or "Traded Atrix for Nexus S" or "Atrix or Wait for SG2" and the post that you just made, young sir, is no better. Look it up and make your own opinion, for God's sake. We don't need ONE MORE NONSENSE THREAD someone made asking which handset to buy, or informing people they have rid of their Atrix and/or got something else.
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Why again should he not ask for opinions about a phone on a board that is focused around discussions on said phone?

BravoMotorola said:
I don't give a ****, and I don't know who else does. I'm sick of all these idiots thinking people care that "I sold my Atrix" or "Traded Atrix for Nexus S" or "Atrix or Wait for SG2" and the post that you just made, young sir, is no better. Look it up and make your own opinion, for God's sake. We don't need ONE MORE NONSENSE THREAD someone made asking which handset to buy, or informing people they have rid of their Atrix and/or got something else.
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Normally I would agree with this school of thought, but the SG2 is a $600-$900 phone to just "Jump into".
The Atrix unlocked is not cheap either.
It's nice to hear other people's input since XDA is a "community" that tries to help others.
Sure you can read reviews in Samsung's forum, but to hear it from somebody in here gives you more perspective.
Sure I've seen multiple threads about this, "and wish it was all in one neat thread", but if Motorola got their act together (especially for Bell users) this **** wouldn't be happening as much...

Man_of_Leisure said:
I'm starting to think Samsung fanboys are worse than apple fanboys. After all, we don't get iphoners in here talking trash all the time.
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Nobody is talking thrash, OP is just asking for "help" from others.
The "only" mistake OP made, was creating a new thread instead of posting his concerns in the other existing, that's all...

CaelanT said:
Tired of reading threads like this!
BYE!
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LOL! All I could think of was this:
“I command ye, therefore, upon the peril of your lives, to depart immediately out of this place! Take away that shining bauble there, and lock up the doors. You have sat here too long for the good you do. In the name of God, go!”

@cheetah2k Thanks for the great writeup!
Everyday to and from work, I think about making the switch myself. I've had the Bell Atrix for over a month, and have probably used it for half the time. My Motorola Milestone is kicking it's ass right now and that's not sitting well with me.
^ (still have a capped device with no Stock SBF and Adfree still doesn't work)
The only thing that still keeps me holding on is hoping that Gingerbread actually fixes this device, and that I get the "Telus Fascinate" experience again.
^Basically I had the same garbage issues with the Fascinate on Eclair, but Froyo almost fixed everything. Sadly GPS was still broken, but the phone was way better than before.
Last week I actually wiped my Atrix and almost sold it, but after reading about some of the bugs on the SGII it's bought me a little bit more time.
Hardware and form factor wise the Atrix is PERFECT, but it's like using a Core 2 Duo PC running on 98/Me. Part of me still doesn't trust Motorola, and the support on their forums blows right now, but the phone has so much potential in front of it.
If the Galaxy S II didn't have so many dead pixel units reported, I would have pulled the trigger a long time ago and pitted the 2 phones against each other. For now I'm just waiting for the SG2 to either come down in price, or Moto to give us an "official" timetable of when Gingerbread is gonna be rolled out (including the forgotten Bell units)...

+1 for cheetah2k, a good seemingly unbiased comparison. I think its best that I stick with the Atrix because of the things it still has that the SGS2 doesn't, like qHD and the awesome fingerprint sensor. Plus, it'll probably be a little while before the SGS2 officially comes on AT&T, so I might as well just wait for the next Nexus. Thanks again, cheetah2k!

system update is really a issue constraining phone's spec
I bought atrix just for it is the first phone with 1ghz*2 +1g ram
but I'm now considering to replace it with a next-g nexus
for it is branded by Google and always gets the latest version
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The SGS3 is the best phone I've ever owned!

I started using Android phones when I got the Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 a few years ago and I fell in love with Android straight away. Since then I have owned nothing but Android phones.
I got my Samsung Galaxy S3 two months ago and have been nothing but happy with it. The camera is just fantastic, I can take perfect photos in all lighting conditions, and although other people don't like the audio quality in recorded videos, I think it's brilliant.
The speaker is very loud, one thing I hated about all Android phones I owned was that the speaker was very quiet.
Every Android phone I owned had a very short battery life so I always had a spare battery just in case I needed it. With the SGS3 I don't need a spare battery, the battery lasts me long enough to last through the whole day with a lot left and I'm someone who uses his phone nearly all day.
I could go on and in about how good this phone is, but I'll let you see for yourself
The only thing I could fault is the fact that it takes a while to come out of sleep but I guess that's something that cannot be solved.
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That's great son! I also like how you made a new thread about it! I'm gonna thank you now.

Great !!
Good for know...
but wait...I already knew it..
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Is this no longer XDA DEVELOPERS forum ????
jje

Hey i agree with you OP, best phone ever without a doubt. Yesterday alone, many people at my job decided to buy an S3. My boss offered me 500$ cash to buy mine but of course i declined. Those people are big iphone users too. Samsung did a great job at marketing this phone, this is the reason why so many people are aware of the S3. I had discussions with my coworkers yesterday and they said " honestly this is the first phone that beat the iphone..." of course it isnt true but its all good. They like the fact that it doesnt lag and they love the screen. Im telling you with the S3, samsung has gained a lot of momentun and people are paying attention. From now on every release of a galaxy s phone is gonna be bigger and very soon ( maybe next year) its gonna reach iphone status as far as popularity,its already very popular now.
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all reviews are paid.
this poster is also paid.
so this is just a HOaX.
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Gundam wing it! where's my version ICS version 4.0.4!!!!!!!
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Second best phone i've ever had.
THE best was the Nokia 8310.

Before I had the S3 I'd been using iOS since first iPhone.
I've never met anybody with as much Mac computers and accessories as me for personal use.
That said I can't see myself going back to an iPhone in the foreseeable future. That is how great the S3 is.
Means little to those reading it, but if you knew me you'd know that says a lot.
This phone is awesome as you already knew.

Congratulations, but you could have used one of the innumerable other threads rather than making a new one.
Closed.

Oh how the world turns

So the chase for the HTC One is over. Im in the US and today on twitter HTC confirmed its coming in April. And to that I say f*uck you HTC go die in a ditch. Im looking to get an Xperia Z from Negrielectronics to use on ATT. I am perfectly fine with getting good HSPA+ connection. I dont have LTE where I live and am usually on wifi when doing anything substantial like downloading something. Would the Z be a good device to buy? Remember it is around 750$ while the Note 2 is 650$ along with the iPhone from ATT.
BTW, 1 complaint I see is about the Z's flaps. Call me crazy, but a year ago every review site was saying "we miss the little door to protect the charging port from dust". In particular when the Epic (GS1) had this but the Evo didn't and thats what they held against it. Now there are flaps...everywhere so we all can do fun things in the shower without worrying about phones dying...ummm and also taking pictures while in a pool or what-not of course !And people still complain. I dont get it.

valleng said:
So the chase for the HTC One is over. Im in the US and today on twitter HTC confirmed its coming in April. And to that I say f*uck you HTC go die in a ditch. Im looking to get an Xperia Z from Negrielectronics to use on ATT. I am perfectly fine with getting good HSPA+ connection. I dont have LTE where I live and am usually on wifi when doing anything substantial like downloading something. Would the Z be a good device to buy? Remember it is around 750$ while the Note 2 is 650$ along with the iPhone from ATT.
BTW, 1 complaint I see is about the Z's flaps. Call me crazy, but a year ago every review site was saying "we miss the little door to protect the charging port from dust". In particular when the Epic (GS1) had this but the Evo didn't and thats what they held against it. Now there are flaps...everywhere so we all can do fun things in the shower without worrying about phones dying...ummm and also taking pictures while in a pool or what-not of course !And people still complain. I dont get it.
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The minor inconvenience for water resistance is worth it

What's your take on the phone itself? Worth the money I'd spend?
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nice one ...
valleng said:
What's your take on the phone itself? Worth the money I'd spend?
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Device is wonderful and this is the first time i see a device have polished screen just like iPhone 5.
So it worth the money.

Its a great decision and a beautiful device!

good phone

its an awesom phone.
even the sony apps and tweaks that sony have made to android makes it better than vanilla android and shows they spent a long time thinking about it.
awesome phone is awesome.
until you take battery life into consideration.
with web browsing, you might get more than 4 hours on screen time.
with watching videos, about 3.5 hours on screen time.
doing something demanding like real racing 3, prob more like under 3 hours on screen time.
I'm investing in an external battery.
i cannot see any other way around it.

valleng said:
So the chase for the HTC One is over. Im in the US and today on twitter HTC confirmed its coming in April. And to that I say f*uck you HTC go die in a ditch. Im looking to get an Xperia Z from Negrielectronics to use on ATT. I am perfectly fine with getting good HSPA+ connection. I dont have LTE where I live and am usually on wifi when doing anything substantial like downloading something. Would the Z be a good device to buy? Remember it is around 750$ while the Note 2 is 650$ along with the iPhone from ATT.
BTW, 1 complaint I see is about the Z's flaps. Call me crazy, but a year ago every review site was saying "we miss the little door to protect the charging port from dust". In particular when the Epic (GS1) had this but the Evo didn't and thats what they held against it. Now there are flaps...everywhere so we all can do fun things in the shower without worrying about phones dying...ummm and also taking pictures while in a pool or what-not of course !And people still complain. I dont get it.
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i am very fussy about my things i have owned a lot of devices two a year sometimes just never owned an iphone i bought one once turned it on for a day my sister made a comment about it and i gave it to her iphones are so boring lol, back on topic i can say that the sony xperia z by far is my best device it outshines almost everything i ever had camera quality not so great in my opionion but i know its all software and very confident it will be fixed dont get me wrong still takes some pretty good pics.
I have a habit of comparing everything to my dslr but apart from that the phone is amazing. the only other phone that had a good camera in my opionion by sony was the sony ericsson satio.
the flaps on the phone are so easy to open and are not at all a problem you can open them with using just one finger as apposed to my xperia s which is very fiddly and annoying but i bought the charging dock so its all good. we are living in a wireless world now so opening up the flap to use the headphone jack just seams like a waste really. the speaker on the phone is mediocre but again i have never used loud speaker for anything unless its handsfree and for that its great clear and loud. i walked into phone shop and used one of the nfc speakers and was amazed by the quality for such a small speaker.
cant convince you to buy it but i always go on what looks good and how it makes me feel and i can tell you that the htc one and the samsung gs4 didnt even raise an eyebrow with me the phone is fast enough and by the time we need that extra power im sure it will be time to buy a new device.
phone overall is great it has the looks the feel and the performance im sure you will not be disapointed.
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samxool said:
its an awesom phone.
even the sony apps and tweaks that sony have made to android makes it better than vanilla android and shows they spent a long time thinking about it.
awesome phone is awesome.
until you take battery life into consideration.
with web browsing, you might get more than 4 hours on screen time.
with watching videos, about 3.5 hours on screen time.
doing something demanding like real racing 3, prob more like under 3 hours on screen time.
I'm investing in an external battery.
i cannot see any other way around it.
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im getting over 4 hours screen on time easy and thats with 75% brightness and still probably get more out of it if i let it drain completly and im sure with better optimization it will get better but than again thats what they said about the sony xperia s and that has the worse battery ever

Thanks guys. Looks like Im going to take the plunge

looks like there will be no CM support for S4!! No member is willing to buy it or develop anything for it as there are huge amount of bugs on the S3 already.
delay launch of HTC One, No CM support for S4 = less developers for them and more developers for Sony? lets hope so
We have some bad news for those who’d love to run a cleaner Android version on the upcoming Samsung Galaxy S4 flagship. The CyanogenMod developers have come up with a statement announcing they are not going to support the smartphone.
Not a single guy from the CyanogenMod team considers buying the device and give it a shot.
Here is the official statement:
Nobody at Team Hacksung (the team behind Galaxy S2, Note, S3, Note2, G Tabs… official CM ports) plans to buy it, neither develop for it. There are two variants which will be a pain to maintain, [and] the bugs we have on the S3 will probably be there on S4, too (camera), and we all know Samsung ability to release sources while staying in line with mainline. Yes Qualcomm releases sources, but Exynos sources we had were far from [working on] actual Galaxy products. I’m pretty sure the same will happen for this one.
That’s a uniform “no” from us.
The CM guys are probably right to deny support for the Galaxy S4 since Samsung is so clumsy with the source files. After all, limited documentation prevents the development and no one would use a buggy custom ROM over the fully operational stock one.
And while the number of people wanting to buy Galaxy S4 with the idea to run stock Android on it is low enough not to affect the company’s sales targets, the attitude of the company to 3rd party developers is certainly not great.
Update:The CyanogenMod organization made a comment regarding device expectations:
Let’s start with the simplest form of this: CyanogenMod does not pre-announce support or lack of support for devices. Ever. Even for the Nexus 4, we did not announce support until a nightly build was available. Further, any announcement regarding the ‘dropping’ of device support will be communicated via this Google+ page, Twitter, Facebook, our blog, or a combination of those; it will not be something buried in a forum post.
This morning, a comment from a CM collaborator on XDA was taken to be as an ‘absolute’ in regards to support of the S4. He offered the opinion of four TeamHacksung maintainers, their frustrations and lack of interest in supporting the S4. What’s seemingly lost on those reading this is that his comments as an individual do not speak for CyanogenMod as an organization.
As for the team’s stance on the S4, there isn’t one at this time, and most definitely won’t be one before the device is sold at retail.
Anyway, Samsung most probably won’t release documentation for the Exynos processor, so the international Galaxy S4 is still a no-go for a CM version.
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Love it!

I'm going on my second day of owning this black beauty from T-Mobile USA. Coming from a sg2, this phone is a major upgrade for me and it only cost me $9 out the door. They took my old phone as a trade in and applied that to the up front cost. Since I'm still in contract they did some tweaking to my data package where I only ay $5 bucks for it and the added monthly cost to pay for the phone is esentially covered by the this little change to keep my bill the same!
Been eyeing this phone for awhile as I was tired with the same Samsung and HTC phones. Walking around an electronics story yesterday I saw the Xperia Z tablet. Made me want to buy it since it resembled the phone perfectly and sees like the two would be a great pair. Maybe later in the year since my current tab has no reason to be replaced.
Well I got plenty of threads to read through and information to absorb. I'm sure any questions I come accross have already been asked.

fsured said:
I'm going on my second day of owning this black beauty from T-Mobile USA. Coming from a sg2, this phone is a major upgrade for me and it only cost me $9 out the door. They took my old phone as a trade in and applied that to the up front cost. Since I'm still in contract they did some tweaking to my data package where I only ay $5 bucks for it and the added monthly cost to pay for the phone is esentially covered by the this little change to keep my bill the same!
Been eyeing this phone for awhile as I was tired with the same Samsung and HTC phones. Walking around an electronics story yesterday I saw the Xperia Z tablet. Made me want to buy it since it resembled the phone perfectly and sees like the two would be a great pair. Maybe later in the year since my current tab has no reason to be replaced.
Well I got plenty of threads to read through and information to absorb. I'm sure any questions I come accross have already been asked.
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Welcome to the most stylish and beautifull phone in the world. Your life will change and people will start coming to you asking what is that beauty you have in your hands.
Congratulations on your improved taste.

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Welcome to the most stylish and beautifull phone in the world. Your life will change and people will start coming to you asking what is that beauty you have in your hands.
Congratulations on your improved taste.
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Haha true! What is more you gonna experience wild, unplanned SEX with by that moment unknown beauty womens. Im not lying, check this out its called effect SEXPERIA
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And when you listen to music in walkman it makes you wanna get up and dance as hard as you can.. or if you put a romantic song on..
Come on, lets make a this into a silly thread of out experiencec of Xperia Z

Congratulations on ur buying the xperia z!! Now masturbation gets easier more than ever with the help of sexperia Z hahahaha

haha! Thanks y'all. I'm glad i didnt go with another Samsung or HTC. They make great phones but this Sony is fresh and different.

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(...) this Sony is fresh (...) .
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That might be because you dank it in the water, cause it's water proof!
Or
Because it's back is made of glass and glass is cool and fresh !
:good: :victory:

i'm thinking of swapping my htc one for it... is the screen ok on it? (i'm use to the samoled and the screen on my htc one is amazing)
My only other concern is the processor isn't as good as the htc one/s4

I'm undecided. Had my xz since UK launch and I'm disappointed with the rear panel raising up (need to discuss with my network ref a repair, but I know it will keep happening) and the camera can be a mixed bag. My other half has an HTC one, like it a lot.
Anyway, the xz. Glad to know the op is pleased with it.
I'm considering the new nexus, should be details in a few days

If i had an option i'd swap my htc one for a nexus... i'm only being offered s4/xperia z in exchange for my htc one, and i doubt they'd offer me a newer phone like the lg g2 or xperia z1
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I'm undecided. Had my xz since UK launch and I'm disappointed with the rear panel raising up (need to discuss with my network ref a repair, but I know it will keep happening) and the camera can be a mixed bag. My other half has an HTC one, like it a lot.
Anyway, the xz. Glad to know the op is pleased with it.
I'm considering the new nexus, should be details in a few days
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64GB Turbo for Black Z3v

I have a Ballistic Nylon Droid Turbo, looking to get a Z3v...
I had the Z3v for a week before I traded it in for the Turbo, thinking I'd like it more. I regret the decision, I miss many of the Sony features and am not a huge fan of the Droid Turbo's design.
My Turbo is in nearly perfect condition, never been dropped, and has been used in a case for most of it's time with me. ( I can post pictures, if you'd like)
If you're interested, comment below. We can arrange how to send them to each other, or whatever.
Thanks for your time

I just went from a z3v to a turbo. The Sony was nice but its big, heavy and fragile. Good luck but i think that you are making a mistake. I just don't see much support for it down the line. The z4 just came out and Sony is selling the mobile division. Don't feel anything positive for Sony.

thegrants82 said:
I just went from a z3v to a turbo. The Sony was nice but its big, heavy and fragile. Good luck but i think that you are making a mistake. I just don't see much support for it down the line. The z4 just came out and Sony is selling the mobile division. Don't feel anything positive for Sony.
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Z3v better in everything
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Lol welcome back =)
Edit.. To the op. He makes good points. Sony is very much up in the air right now. I also think it would be a mistake.

A little bit of a stretch. It may serve your time better by looking at new posts instead of trying to find the "ah ha" posts. I still think that the Z3V is better. Much better camera, wifi is way better than the turbo, I even thought that the software ran just as smooth if not smoother. Removable storage is great and its waterproof. Now for me personally I want something to tide me over to the M9 and S6 or possibly even the Z4. We will see but the Z3V for me was just too frail. It doesn't have much on the resale end so I jumped faster than I usually would have. I also don't think that it will be supported very well at all from Verizon. I would love if Sony kept on making them but it looks like they are going to dump the mobile division. That could mean a year or two of uncertainty. Best bet is to step away and then if it looks good later to step back in. The Z3V just doesn't have any kind of identity. My opinion of course. Turbo is a 60-90 day ride for me before the big guns release. Turbo is nice but its not good enough for me to be a long term keeper.

thegrants82 said:
A little bit of a stretch. It may serve your time better by looking at new posts instead of trying to find the "ah ha" posts. I still think that the Z3V is better. Much better camera, wifi is way better than the turbo, I even thought that the software ran just as smooth if not smoother. Removable storage is great and its waterproof. Now for me personally I want something to tide me over to the M9 and S6 or possibly even the Z4. We will see but the Z3V for me was just too frail. It doesn't have much on the resale end so I jumped faster than I usually would have. I also don't think that it will be supported very well at all from Verizon. I would love if Sony kept on making them but it looks like they are going to dump the mobile division. That could mean a year or two of uncertainty. Best bet is to step away and then if it looks good later to step back in. The Z3V just doesn't have any kind of identity. My opinion of course. Turbo is a 60-90 day ride for me before the big guns release. Turbo is nice but its not good enough for me to be a long term keeper.
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You contradict yourself soooooo much.
If you truly felt the z3v was better you would have kept it. Any uncertainty in Sony's future would not affect existing devices and Sony has always been known as the worst OEM for updates.

Well you are defiantly not worth the time. Stop trolling me.

thegrants82 said:
Well you are defiantly not worth the time. Stop trolling me.
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So many haters, but I'm certainly enjoying my Z3v. Lollipop support is coming in a few weeks, and everything about my phone is top notch. Fragile build? I think not, it's thicker than its brethren with no leak gaps unlike certain Z3 models.
As for the rumors of selling the Sony Mobile division, I hope it isn't true. They just need to work around their marketing strategy and do a few tweaks and maybe they could really try throwing all the advertising on everyone's faces to sell. As for reputation, I highly doubt the Droid Turbo is a recognizable phone anywhere else other than the States...
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GigaSPX said:
So many haters, but I'm certainly enjoying my Z3v. Lollipop support is coming in a few weeks, and everything about my phone is top notch. Fragile build? I think not, it's thicker than its brethren with no leak gaps unlike certain Z3 models.
As for the rumors of selling the Sony Mobile division, I hope it isn't true. They just need to work around their marketing strategy and do a few tweaks and maybe they could really try throwing all the advertising on everyone's faces to sell. As for reputation, I highly doubt the Droid Turbo is a recognizable phone anywhere else other than the States...
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Keep in mind the lollipop announcement was for international versions. Sony can't set a timetable on Verizon.

Yet, the Z3v is still slated for lollipop release starting next month as it's still a Z series phone with the rest of the list.
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GigaSPX said:
Yet, the Z3v is still slated for lollipop release starting next month as it's still a Z series phone with the rest of the list.
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The Turbo has been slated for lollipop for a while. As you may have noticed, Verizon has yet to approve it. My point is, and you seem to be ignoring it is that Verizon can and will slow down that process considerably. None of those other models have to worry about CDMA or Verizon's apps on top of Verizon's quite slow approval process.

Okay, so why be the pessimist here? Trying to make people feel bad they have great coverage?
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GigaSPX said:
Okay, so why be the pessimist here? Trying to make people feel bad they have great coverage?
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Truth hurts sometimes. Hiding from on it doesn't make it go away. What does coverage have to do with anything?
Why do you feel the need to discuss this in a Droid Turbo forum anyway?

adrynalyne said:
Truth hurts sometimes. Hiding from on it doesn't make it go away. What does coverage have to do with anything?
Why do you feel the need to discuss this in a Droid Turbo forum anyway?
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To be honest, the XDA forum app really doesn't do me good in seeing where some threads belong to what forums. I just see a Z3v thread pop up on my main screen and I just wound up getting into the discussion here.
Anyhow though, even if there are delays to releasing the update compared to the international version, it's still a confirmed fact that the Z3v will receive the much needed update that may hopefully include VoLTE. Something I know the Droid Turbo has now when it did not at the time of its introduction.

GigaSPX said:
To be honest, the XDA forum app really doesn't do me good in seeing where some threads belong to what forums. I just see a Z3v thread pop up on my main screen and I just wound up getting into the discussion here.
Anyhow though, even if there are delays to releasing the update compared to the international version, it's still a confirmed fact that the Z3v will receive the much needed update that may hopefully include VoLTE. Something I know the Droid Turbo has now when it did not at the time of its introduction.
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Hopefully volte works better for the z3v than it does for the turbo.
It is garbage for us.

adrynalyne said:
Hopefully volte works better for the z3v than it does for the turbo.
It is garbage for us.
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How so? Loss in voice quality or major reduction in data speed during calls?

GigaSPX said:
How so? Loss in voice quality or major reduction in data speed during calls?
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Voice quality is really bad unless you get the rare HD call.

My parents both own Z3v's after not liking the low volume of the ear pieces on the Turbo. Not the biggest fan of the Sony skin, but the phones overall are very nice. Screen is beautiful and it's a very snappy phone. Speakers are surprisingly loud and when making calls, the ear piece is easily one of the loudest I've heard on any phone. You'd have no issues talking in a noisy environment with that phone.

I really wanted to like the Z3v but it's heavier and bigger in every dimension than the Turbo. And why do you think Apple abandoned glass backs 3 years ago? It's just another pane of really thin and fragile glass to crack, or at the last get fingerprints all over. The camera's better but still not good. I don't see the appeal.
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