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Note 2....Don't see it getting any better than this!

Ok folks.....so i just got my Note 2 yesterday. Last night i'm messing around with it and i then have this thought. Where the hell does Samsung go from here? I mean i am so pleased with this phone....but then in the back of my mind i think "Wait a sec....they are gonna come out with ANOTHER one of these next year!" And me being the tech nerd that i am i will likely get it. But seriously....WHAT else can they do? lol I bought my first Note at the beginning of the year.....so that's 2 $700+ smartphones in one year. A little ridiculous to some i'm sure.....but next year when this time rolls around Samsung is going to have to do something TRULY revolutionary to get me to switch! So what do you guys think? I LOVE this phone....just can't see it getting much better. Discuss......:good:

Better processor. Better battery. Better camera. Improved design and materials.
Dude seriously get down to earth. Dont mean to be rude of course. What i mean is there is only space for improvement and sell you updated device later on.
Technology goes so well with consumerism.
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There's even a concept of making it to a 6 inch screen
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DMax99 said:
There's even a concept of making it to a 6 inch screen
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6 inches? That's not going to pocket-able. You might as well have the tablet. Even 5.5 is pushing IMO. But, yeah as long as it fits in my pockets.
Twistedchild420 said:
Ok folks.....so i just got my Note 2 yesterday. Last night i'm messing around with it and i then have this thought. Where the hell does Samsung go from here? I mean i am so pleased with this phone....but then in the back of my mind i think "Wait a sec....they are gonna come out with ANOTHER one of these next year!" And me being the tech nerd that i am i will likely get it. But seriously....WHAT else can they do? lol I bought my first Note at the beginning of the year.....so that's 2 $700+ smartphones in one year. A little ridiculous to some i'm sure.....but next year when this time rolls around Samsung is going to have to do something TRULY revolutionary to get me to switch! So what do you guys think? I LOVE this phone....just can't see it getting much better. Discuss......:good:
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There are places for lot more improvements. Better battery (maybe using different technology), flexible display, stylus with built-in mic/speaker like the BT s-pen but smaller and included with in it, which charges when it's inside the Note (whoa!), wireless charging.. hmm

jbounours said:
Better processor. Better battery. Better camera. Improved design and materials.
Dude seriously get down to earth. Dont mean to be rude of course. What i mean is there is only space for improvement and sell you updated device later on.
Technology goes so well with consumerism.
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I'm just saying mainly from a processor and memory stand point....how do you one up a Note 2? lol What could next year's iteration be? 8 core processor and 4 gb of ram? Sounds silly but possible

j89 said:
6 inches? That's not going to pocket-able. You might as well have the tablet. Even 5.5 is pushing IMO. But, yeah as long as it fits in my pockets.
There are places for lot more improvements. Better battery (maybe using different technology), flexible display, stylus with built-in mic/speaker like the BT s-pen but smaller and included with in it, which charges when it's inside the Note (whoa!), wireless charging.. hmm
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Nice wish list i must say!

Sharp started to product 5-inch 1080p screens...
If the Note 3 got this kind of screen, i'll buy it for sure.

I do agree that the note 2 is so snappy that a faster cpu is of questionable bang/buck. Android needs to get better with multi threading.
Bigger screen is possible with less bezel. You'd have to lose that Samsung logo.
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This device may look fantastic today and i'm sure it is which is why i'm also planning on getting one as soon as possible.
However, as i upgrade every two years and not every year due to contracts new better devices released inbetween is not really a issue. There will always be better devices released, you just have to accept that fact. I'm sure Samsung has many cards up it's sleeve with new things they plan on implement in future versions of this and their other devices. Things like user experience, interface, artificial intelligence, better camera, software, input, raw power and interaction with external products. The whole experience can evolve so much more than compared to what it looks like today but these things needs time to grow slowly into what they will become.
/ Magnus

Twistedchild420 said:
Ok folks.....so i just got my Note 2 yesterday. Last night i'm messing around with it and i then have this thought. Where the hell does Samsung go from here? I mean i am so pleased with this phone....but then in the back of my mind i think "Wait a sec....they are gonna come out with ANOTHER one of these next year!" And me being the tech nerd that i am i will likely get it. But seriously....WHAT else can they do? lol I bought my first Note at the beginning of the year.....so that's 2 $700+ smartphones in one year. A little ridiculous to some i'm sure.....but next year when this time rolls around Samsung is going to have to do something TRULY revolutionary to get me to switch! So what do you guys think? I LOVE this phone....just can't see it getting much better. Discuss......:good:
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Well they probably gonna come out eith a better processor ( exynos 5250 I believe its called based on the new A15 architecture), I know the note 2 is the fastest thing out right now but when that new exynos comes out next year, itll make this note feel like turtle speed. Samsung is gonna kill it. But I agree, yhis phone is so perfect that Im not sure what else we really need. Higher res screen and stuff like that probably. Note 2 is AWESOME!
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I guess the Note III will offer the following specifications:
1. Quadcore Exynos 5250 @ 2 - 2.5 Ghz
2. 2 GB RAM
3. A 5.8-6 inch display, higher resolution
4. Multiband-LTE as standard in the GT-N7200 (i.e. the base model N7200 is an LTE device - no more 3G only) - support for US LTE together with EU LTE would be perfect
5. VoLTE
6. A 12 MP-camera, improved sensor and 1080p video recording
7. 32 and 64 GB onboard memory + microSDXC slot
8. Android 4.2(?) Key Lime Pie or 5.0 (assuming that 4.2 arrives later this month or in November and 5.0 lands in June 2013)
9. A premium body similar to this Note II concept: Note II mockup
10. Bluetooth S-Pen as standard
11. Further improved S-Pen feature set
12. Improved window mode features

Sure. For me also. It's the best ever. And I'll not shift easly.
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j89 said:
6 inches? That's not going to pocket-able. You might as well have the tablet. Even 5.5 is pushing IMO. But, yeah as long as it fits in my pockets.
There are places for lot more improvements. Better battery (maybe using different technology), flexible display, stylus with built-in mic/speaker like the BT s-pen but smaller and included with in it, which charges when it's inside the Note (whoa!), wireless charging.. hmm
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I dunno... My nexus 7 and my old Kindle Fire fit in my pockets . You want strange looks... try pulling out a TI-84 Silver Edition from your pocket and play games on it, as you can tell, I was REALLY popular in high school
Twistedchild420 said:
Ok folks.....so i just got my Note 2 yesterday. Last night i'm messing around with it and i then have this thought. Where the hell does Samsung go from here? I mean i am so pleased with this phone....but then in the back of my mind i think "Wait a sec....they are gonna come out with ANOTHER one of these next year!" And me being the tech nerd that i am i will likely get it. But seriously....WHAT else can they do? lol I bought my first Note at the beginning of the year.....so that's 2 $700+ smartphones in one year. A little ridiculous to some i'm sure.....but next year when this time rolls around Samsung is going to have to do something TRULY revolutionary to get me to switch! So what do you guys think? I LOVE this phone....just can't see it getting much better. Discuss......:good:
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For 1 I'd like to see the Snapdragon S4 Pro (quad-core) only because it's actually a fusion of A9 and A15 architecture (and smaller transistor size = less power leak = less heat and power use) which means better performance. Also, I'd like a much better GPU... what don't these manufacturers understand? Phones are beginning to be like PCs the bottleneck is ALWAYS the GPU nowadays... sure we have quad-core CPUs in Android phones, but all the iDevices have GPUs with almost double the performance, c'mon!
kyano said:
Sharp started to product 5-inch 1080p screens...
If the Note 3 got this kind of screen, i'll buy it for sure.
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Yeah, I was hoping for the Toshiba 1080p 5" displays announced back in March I believe to start showing up (Toshiba did say they were going to show up in devices Q4 2012). I mean Oppo did release a 5" 1080p phone (at least announced it), I'd consider it, but I need my wifi-calling on T-Mobile (good for international calls as long as you got wifi and for places where tmo reception goes kaput).
Although I want to see some 5.3" 1920x1200 screens please

Twistedchild420 said:
I'm just saying mainly from a processor and memory stand point....how do you one up a Note 2? lol What could next year's iteration be? 8 core processor and 4 gb of ram? Sounds silly but possible
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A15? That's like asking what's going to be better than some intel/amd quad procie when these companies are coming out with more faster processors
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Twistedchild420 said:
I'm just saying mainly from a processor and memory stand point....how do you one up a Note 2? lol What could next year's iteration be? 8 core processor and 4 gb of ram? Sounds silly but possible
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Cores alone do not a processor make.
The Exynos 5 Dual-core might turn out to be faster than the Exynos 4 Quad.
It has all to do with the architecture, design layout and fabrication process.
Two no-brainer upgrades for next year's model:
[1] 1080p screen
[2] Power-efficient CPU & SOC (low-power).
Screen size of 5.5" is good, no need to go bigger. CPU can be dual or quad core, as long as it has a newer architecture with low-power consumption.

I cant do more than 5.5 inch screen honestly. Anything bigger will be in the realm of tablets.
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They can do much better
I had a look at the GN2 and I really like it for me it is the best phone on the market right now. But I will not buy it yet because I do not feel that it is so much better than my GN1.
Think that they could go even bigger and maybe get rid of more Bazel I also think that they can do so much more around multi tasking - I mean the real deal like windows. They should also marry a bigger screen to a higher Res. It would make it awesome to look at.
I also think putting in something like Pureview would not hurt.

Its not all sweetness & light..
The horrid back ground hiss that's on the S3 radio is still present here - Come on Samsung it's FM radio & it's horrid.
I get a loud crackle when moving tracks with the latest Poweramp...

They can fit a 6" screen into the current 5'5 Galaxy note size right now. It would have to be glass to glass touchscreen with no bezel (maybe some at the bottom for the buttons)
So the people complaining that the 6" phone would be too big, look at the galaxy note 1 vs galaxy 2..the screen got bigger but the overall size got slimmer

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They can fit a 6" screen into the current 5'5 Galaxy note size right now. It would have to be glass to glass touchscreen with no bezel (maybe some at the bottom for the buttons)
So the people complaining that the 6" phone would be too big, look at the galaxy note 1 vs galaxy 2..the screen got bigger but the overall size got slimmer
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And that will be the extent of it.
Because you can make the device taller, but you can't make it wider. Even if you need two hands to use the device properly, the width has to be small enough to be held in one hand.
That is where the Note II shines.
It is the biggest phone out there right now, but people can still hold it in one hand.
I don't like screens where they use a chunk of it for on-screen buttons and use that portion as part of the screen measurement.

[Q] Upgrade N7000 to N9005 or not, that is the question...

Hey guys,
satisfied N7000 user here wondering if you would recommend to upgrade or not?
I could probably sell my N7000 for 200€ and N9005 would probably cost about 550 - 600€ without contract.
Thats about 3 times as much as the n7000 is worth right now - (if I'm lucky to find a buyer) and I got a bunch of add ons for my N7000 like an extra battery, couple of cases, screen protector, second spen (which I'm never using though) and carmount which probably would cost another 20 - 50€ to replace.
I mean I could afford it and would surely enjoy it, but actually I'm still kinda satisfied with my N7000 and hardly run into any problems. But I'm also not gaming much on the phone.
And then there is this BS with sim region locks, rom region locks (and if you dont flash the right one you have a softbrick?) and the KNOX fuse crap.
What pisses me off though with my N7000 is that there won't be any more official updates (maybe 4.2 or 4.3 - but I dont think so) and with Exynos chip tv out does not work on CM based roms.
Tough decision - actually after this exynos source problems I didn't want to buy samsung anymore - but now they offer the note 3 with snapdragon it got my attention yet again lol.. arghhhh I probably should buy a real tablet as addition I guess - or some newer Notebook/Ultrabook rather than to upgrade a perfectly fine phone right? (I don't even use the spen much, I just love the big screen of the notes and the possibilty to use the pen if I want to hehe - well actually it makes certain things easier and I use it for that off course - but I don't write much notes or smth..)
First world problems...
P.S.: Aww f*ck it would be stupid to upgrade if I'm satisfied with my N7000 still.. and the difference is not THAT great yet I'm sure. I'll maybe get the new Note Tablet instead, but they should finally make 12"+ tablets (with ubuntu for android too off course....if that ever gets released..)

zroice said:
satisfied N7000 user here wondering if you would recommend to upgrade or not?
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P.S.: Aww f*ck it would be stupid to upgrade if I'm satisfied with my N7000 still.. and the difference is not THAT great yet I'm sure. I'll maybe get the new Note Tablet instead, but they should finally make 12"+ tablets (with ubuntu for android too off course....if that ever gets released..)
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Like every decision we all make, it depends....
Major upgrades from N1 to N3 are
1. 1280 x 800 (~285 ppi) display to 1920 x 1080 (~386 ppi)
2. 2 GB RAM to 3 GB
3. Exynos Dual 1.4 GHz to S800 Quad 2.3 GHz or Exynos Octa 1.9/1.3 GHz
4. 8 MP Camera to 13 MP
Everything's just bigger, faster, and better. If you want the latest and greatest, you can't really go wrong with an N3 right now. If you don't mind not living on the cutting edge, and just want something adequately usable, stay with the N1. The choice is up to you.

I had the note 2 and upgraded to note 3.
I have bought it without to consider, because I want to give the note 2 to my girlfriend.
This was the best idea I ever had
I would never have thought
it is so much better
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Xdad_0001 said:
Like every decision we all make, it depends....
Major upgrades from N1 to N3 are
1. 1280 x 800 (~285 ppi) display to 1920 x 1080 (~386 ppi)
2. 2 GB RAM to 3 GB
3. Exynos Dual 1.4 GHz to S800 Quad 2.3 GHz or Exynos Octa 1.9/1.3 GHz
4. 8 MP Camera to 13 MP
Everything's just bigger, faster, and better. If you want the latest and greatest, you can't really go wrong with an N3 right now. If you don't mind not living on the cutting edge, and just want something adequately usable, stay with the N1. The choice is up to you.
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The N7000 has 1GB RAM only.

I got exynos note 3 over my note 1 and difference is day and night.
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ahh yea lol I was in a retail store today to check out the new note.
It really feels different, although I only used it for a moment, the spen was soooo much more accurate that I could actually see me using it on the Note 3. And that metallic looking front and the slightly slimmer screen etc. really felt nice.
I guess I will see if i get my Note 1 sold for an acceptable price.... (only paid 300€ for it after selling my S9000 for 200€ so that upgrade for 100€ was nice!! I guess the update now wouldnt be as big of a step but with a heftier price tag? 200 to lets say 550 .. 350€ - for that price I can get a tablet (which I don't yet own, but actually don't really need I think - rather a new laptop or desktop pc if no phone upgrade - smth that you can actually work with..).
But the note 3 is soooo tempting, especially with the Snapdragon Processor ...
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Another thought: I actually dont use my phone for any heavyload things, mostly all I'm doin is browsing, listening to mp3s, using it as navigation gagdet, to remotely control my pc, and from time to time some minor games. (no heavy 3d, like asphalt or so, but rather strategy/thinking games or maybe fun games like worms or angry birds etc.)
Only the screen on time could really be better - in standby battery drains less than 1% per hour - but with screen on i can watch it drop so fast..
What I am really waiting for though is the possibilty to run a real desktop on my phone and carry my "pc" with me - something like ubuntu for android promise(d). Then I can see me actually needing more performance and even bigger battery, but when will manufacturers finally begin to embrace that idea? Any clue what happened to ubuntu for android for example - instead of releasing that they push out this ubuntu for phones crap..? I mean this is the logical next step in technology: Replace the big clunky computers with your smartphone, a Screen and an bluetooth keyboard etc.
Or is it already possible to have something like that? All those linux on android solutions work through vnc only as far as I understand, without any sound etc. Can you actually do anything useful with those setups yet?

[Q] Note 2 to Note 4?

I know a lot of people on here are saying that it isn't much of an improvement from 3 to 4. What about going from 2 to 4? Would it be worth it, or should I hold out?

I am still on a plan that includes discounted upgrades, and it it due about the time the Note 4 comes out. I am flip flopping. I would upgrade since I am due, but I don't like at all that the boot loader is locked. If I wanted that, I would get a crApple. I am waiting to see if the carrier is going to put out the cheap quad processor or 8 processor model (I can guess they will go cheap). I don't want to go with an international model and loose LTE just to get the unlocked boot loader. But neither do I want to deal with all the Crapulant carrier bloat either.

It looks like a no brainer to me, but it helps that my Note 2 is losing it's marbles. The extra memory and CPU horsepower alone is worth it. I'm stuck using an old S3 while I wait for the release.
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It just depend on you, it is your money and your necesities.

rcobourn said:
It looks like a no brainer to me, but it helps that my Note 2 is losing it's marbles. The extra memory and CPU horsepower alone is worth it. I'm stuck using an old S3 while I wait for the release.
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I was thinking it was a not brainer until I saw the Note 3 for $99 (new) on Amazon.
S5 - is also $99, but it's only 16gb so that is a deal breaker for me.
If the Note 4 is $299 is the phone $200 better than the Note 3?
Is it $249 better than the LG G3?
Is it $249 better than the HTC M8?
I love the stylus, but I can't decide if an awesome style plus, the 805 processor, Ultra power saving mode and (amoled vs lcd) is worth $249 more?
I've been eligible for an upgrade since June and I waited for the Note 4 announcement and I'm a little disappointed.
I really want to know more about the software: Did they improve touchwiz? Will there be new features with the old Samsung Gear (Fixes to S Health?

I have a note 3 and a note 2..going from the note 2 to 3 was a huge improvement so yes going from 2 to 4 would be a massive jump. I'd do it for sure.

aulwes said:
I was thinking it was a not brainer until I saw the Note 3 for $99 (new) on Amazon.
S5 - is also $99, but it's only 16gb so that is a deal breaker for me.
If the Note 4 is $299 is the phone $200 better than the Note 3?
Is it $249 better than the LG G3?
Is it $249 better than the HTC M8?
I love the stylus, but I can't decide if an awesome style plus, the 805 processor, Ultra power saving mode and (amoled vs lcd) is worth $249 more?
I've been eligible for an upgrade since June and I waited for the Note 4 announcement and I'm a little disappointed.
I really want to know more about the software: Did they improve touchwiz? Will there be new features with the old Samsung Gear (Fixes to S Health?
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The Note 4 also has the best display ever made on a smartphone: http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note4_ShootOut_1.htm
Brighter, more accurate, sharper, less energy use. That $249 difference pays for the best tech available.

I have the note 2 since release day. I love it, but knowing the 4 is coming soon, I may as well grab one. I know some people are not Samsung fans, but I love how fast it is compared to apple. To be honest, I don't really use the stylus that much, but I love the screen size. I'm definitely gonna get it for sure. The xda community always amazes me on what they can do.
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Dave2582 said:
I know a lot of people on here are saying that it isn't much of an improvement from 3 to 4. What about going from 2 to 4? Would it be worth it, or should I hold out?
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maybe for someone not worth to upgrading from Note3 to Note4
but from Note2 >> u will have all features of Note3 (optimized and tweaked features) + more features...
so it will be good idea to do this...
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I think it's a no-brainer, and I'm making the jump.

Consider note 3 users as beta testers for note 4... I guess being worth it is relative. I'm on note 2 and I don't feel as if I NEED to upgrade but I guess it would be nice to have a new toy to play with until the industry tells me I'm outdated again.

Dave2582 said:
I know a lot of people on here are saying that it isn't much of an improvement from 3 to 4. What about going from 2 to 4? Would it be worth it, or should I hold out?
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The problem with the question is not is there an upgrade. It's there is a subjective value placed on the "upgrade." On top of it, we're being asked to know how to place a value on subject value you would have on top of it, like we would have the same wants and needs as you. Basically, you're asking a question that really can't be answered. No offense meant.
Obviously, there are upgrades to the phone from the Note 2 or 3. The Note 2 will have increased changes as compared to the Note 3. I think the hardware is the most objective. You just have to ask your yourself, are the cpu, ram, screen (resolution and size), and so forth increases useful, wanted or needed for how you use your mobile device. You may want to include available accessories, and not just the ones by Samsung, too.
Software wise, this is more difficult because this is dependent on how you use your device. If you don't use the Spen, than the Spen software changes are meaningless. If you use third-party software for everything, such as email, office tools, then the applications that come with the device may be meaningless too; you'll also have to considered if the application you do use, are they compatible.
Except for a few applications, the phone is just going to run faster and smoother. It just has more raw power. The exceptions are going to be more about optimizations with the hardware or OS version.
Are you someone who prefers to root their phone, will it be rootable. If you get it right away, can you wait till a root exploit has been found. Also consider if you want it to be deknoxed or have the Knox trigger tripped or not; you may need to wait longer for a solution not to trigger it.
Obviously, you can always wait. And it's a good option if the phone meets your needs and wants. Getting a new phone is an expense. But maybe getting a new phone may mean you have to go onto a different plan that may be more expensive. Then again, what are you really hoping to gain by waiting for the next version? Maybe waiting, is more about till few things you need are found. I waited on the Note 2 till root and WiFi tether had been found for the particular variant.
In my opinion, the Note 2 is a perfectly fine phone. It's only started to show some age, but not very often. It's mainly on some games where you want to have the highest settings turned on. I haven't seen issues with other applications being as power/resource hungry. If you into hacker/mod side of the phone, I would guess you'll see a lot of developers abandon their Note 2 projects as they more onto new devices, such as the Note 4, and I would expect to see a significant jump when the Note 4 is released.
Personally, I'm upgrading from the Note 2. Big reason is the phone got jacked up and cannot to 3G. Others, I want a larger screen (I was hoping closer to the 6" or bigger), eight core CPU, more ram and internal storage. The Note 2 works for needs, but does not always get me my wants.

I'm one of those that feels the Note 3 wasn't enough of an upgrade from the Note 2.
Most people don't realize that CPU and screen PPI has pretty much reach the peak with phones.
A faster processor means nothing if you aren't maxing out the processor you have and more PPI means nothing since the human eye can't see it.
Even though I have a Note 2 with N3bula ROM with Note 3 features, I want the Note 4 for it's even better multitasking and camera.
However, it has to have root which is why I will not pre-order it. If it doesn't get root, I don't want it.

pool_shark said:
I'm one of those that feels the Note 3 wasn't enough of an upgrade from the Note 2.
Most people don't realize that CPU and screen PPI has pretty much reach the peak with phones.
A faster processor means nothing if you aren't maxing out the processor you have and more PPI means nothing since the human eye can't see it.
Even though I have a Note 2 with N3bula ROM with Note 3 features, I want the Note 4 for it's even better multitasking and camera.
However, it has to have root which is why I will not pre-order it. If it doesn't get root, I don't want it.
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Completely agree. Suspect there's been quite a bit of placebo being pushed on us unsuspecting consumersfor some time now. Little to no drawbacks on my note 2 so it may be sticking around for a little while longer if these anti hack rumors turn out to be true.

pool_shark said:
I'm one of those that feels the Note 3 wasn't enough of an upgrade from the Note 2.
Most people don't realize that CPU and screen PPI has pretty much reach the peak with phones.
A faster processor means nothing if you aren't maxing out the processor you have and more PPI means nothing since the human eye can't see it.
Even though I have a Note 2 with N3bula ROM with Note 3 features, I want the Note 4 for it's even better multitasking and camera.
However, it has to have root which is why I will not pre-order it. If it doesn't get root, I don't want it.
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Completely agree. Suspect there's been quite a bit of placebo being pushed on us unsuspecting consumersfor some time now. Little to no drawbacks on my note 2 so it may be sticking around for a little while longer if these anti hack rumors turn out to be true.
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Completely agree. Suspect there's been quite a bit of placebo being pushed on us unsuspecting consumersfor some time now. Little to no drawbacks on my note 2 so it may be sticking around for a little while longer if these anti hack rumors turn out to be true.

Is Note 4 still worth it ?

Is Note 4 still worth it to buy ?
I am thinking of buying a new one. Is N910C with Samsung Exynos 5433 octa core is good ?
I am choosing between Note 4 and S6. which is better ?

Note 4 . JUST DO IT !

Go Ahead for Note 4 , It's pretty one i swear & also S6 is not Supporting SD Card but Note 4 Dose ^_^
My Device is Samsung Galaxy Note 4 N910C

I will go for Note 4. Is there a big difference between quad core and octa core in note 4 ?

Heres the thing with tbe note 4 vs s6
Note 4 is a much better phone in my opinion. Its a phkne fkr the android enthusiasts who want to really get the most out of their phone hence the big screen and overhauled processer. The octacore has more cores and can run multiple strings but does eat some battery. The big disadvantage if the octacore is that it's only available in the international version.
The problem is that if your phone cracks, lcd goes bad, etc and you wan to replace the digitizer, board etc you have to buy an jnternational version or else it will not work meaning that they are more rare and a bit more pricey
Against the s6, the note 4 has similar specs but youre not really enjoying it on that small screen. And even if youre not a fam of big phones, at least stay away from the horrible seald glass back. Iphone learned from that mistake on their iphone 4 and those things were ugly once cracked. If you want that size of a phone get an lg g4 or an s5.
Back to the note 4. It is an overall well built phone and a beautiful one as well. The so called "phablet" size is something you get used to and it grabs alot of attention to woth the exclusive s pen as well (which is always cool)
Ask more note 4 users though and get their opinions too! ☺☺

Superdudekk said:
Heres the thing with tbe note 4 vs s6
Note 4 is a much better phone in my opinion. Its a phkne fkr the android enthusiasts who want to really get the most out of their phone hence the big screen and overhauled processer. The octacore has more cores and can run multiple strings but does eat some battery. The big disadvantage if the octacore is that it's only available in the international version.
The problem is that if your phone cracks, lcd goes bad, etc and you wan to replace the digitizer, board etc you have to buy an jnternational version or else it will not work meaning that they are more rare and a bit more pricey
Against the s6, the note 4 has similar specs but youre not really enjoying it on that small screen. And even if youre not a fam of big phones, at least stay away from the horrible seald glass back. Iphone learned from that mistake on their iphone 4 and those things were ugly once cracked. If you want that size of a phone get an lg g4 or an s5.
Back to the note 4. It is an overall well built phone and a beautiful one as well. The so called "phablet" size is something you get used to and it grabs alot of attention to woth the exclusive s pen as well (which is always cool)
Ask more note 4 users though and get their opinions too!
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The only available model in my country is N910C which is octa core. It will be the first time using big phone and i prefer note 4 over s6.

I consider Note too ,but wchich version snap or exynos? The main priority is battery! So wich would be better?

Raptor 2020 said:
The only available model in my country is N910C which is octa core. It will be the first time using big phone and i prefer note 4 over s6.
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Octa core ( Semi Octa Core as only 4 cores active at the same time) = Exynos
jkb91 said:
I consider Note too ,but wchich version snap or exynos? The main priority is battery! So wich would be better?
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Any differences (IF ANY) is negligible, so pick any model that you like.

Note4 experiance sum and verdict
Became a sucker the other day and bought a Note4 910F to replace my Note3.
Big misstake, why?
Too sum up my experience which includes 48hr of intense working around the phablet, I'm gonna simplify it as best as I can. So this is my verdict.
Cons:
- Battery drainage is a fact.
- All games, even "wheaphones" lag like a *****. The screen is simply too powerful for the chipset which makes all "heavy" games unplayable after 30 min or so. Also 1080p movies begins to freak out after some time because of heat and throttling.
- Bloatware. Hours you have to spend on removing and disabling them.
- No tempered glass covers actually look good, it bubbles up around all the edges because of the beveled screen.
- S Pen apps LAG. Autodesk SketchBook is a nightmare when using some brushes.
- You'll have too tweak in DEV's mode to hospitalize all functions and graphic Sam****s have put years on developing because it don't work fluently.
Pros:
- Beautiful screen resolution and pretty to look at.
- Good camera
- Nice feel too it
- Fingerprint (even though some have reported it too be some cause of the lag)
- Scores VERY VERY well on my tests.
3Dmark score was 1227, and AnTuTu score was 66 822.
- Fluent menus after removing all work sam****s have put in.
It's basically a phone without value from it's maker.
I've gone from first Note to 4. And note 3 is probably the best of them, every model with a different purpose. Note 4 was supposed to be a flagship but if you ask me it's a epic fail as they "DESIGNED" it for Gear VR and gaming! Say what now? They meant the 15-20 minutes you actually can play the game before the phone heats up, drains the battery and throttles in utter dissapointment. Thank you SAM****S, you've become as cheap as Apple's iphone.
Theres alot more I can say, but those points are sure a buzz kill.
Take my advice. Wait for Huawei Mate 8.
My Note4 is no longer with me lmfao. It felt sorry for itself and comitted suicide.
Good luck.

Is there much differnece in sound quality between exynos with wolfson / snapdragon with integrated chip? ? I can buy 910c or 910f version almost at the same price

alexeei said:
Is there much differnece in sound quality between exynos with wolfson / snapdragon with integrated chip? ? I can buy 910c or 910f version almost at the same price
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Not sure but check out the review on gsmarena where they review the sound quality. The sound quality was good (compare to my nexus 4) but I bought a usb otg cable anyways so I can use it with my usb dac.
The only con I would say about the note 4 really is the the shiny metal sides can be scratched easily. As other have said, between this phone vs. The LG G4, it really depends on what's more important to you. And the compare would be note 4 snap vs. LG G4 vs. Note 4 exnoys. I would of gotten the G4 if it looked better/more premium , had better battery life, and something that stands out like the spen.

@imeem true that. I mean I have both the G4 and the Note 4 and they are extreemly close in specs and ease of use. If there is no need for the spen though, I would say to get the G4. However the few times you need to write a note down, Samsung outdid themselves on that. Otherwise, take the s pen out of the equation and you have a slightly larger G4 with a physical home buttom

1st samsung, considering note4, noob questions .)

Hello all note4 users
considering note 4 - to get as new phone
why note - because of spen
why note4 - because easy qi charging, replaceable battery, sd card, maybe because of IR
the question is (for now) - are there any disadvantages of using root on note 4 ?
i know advantages, but dunno if i dont get something wrong when i root the phone ?
i mean disfunction of some spen apps - i will use spen for all wacom advantages, not only as finger replacement.
thx for answers
and second one - which "smart"watch u use with note 4?
thx again
sorry for my english

tlacenka said:
Hello all note4 users
considering note 4 - to get as new phone
why note - because of spen
why note4 - because easy qi charging, replaceable battery, sd card, maybe because of IR
the question is (for now) - are there any disadvantages of using root on note 4 ?
i know advantages, but dunno if i dont get something wrong when i root the phone ?
i mean disfunction of some spen apps - i will use spen for all wacom advantages, not only as finger replacement.
thx for answers
and second one - which "smart"watch u use with note 4?
thx again
sorry for my english
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Disadvantages of root is, loss of warranty, even if u flash the stock rom, u will never reclaim it.
Other than that, there is no disadvantage.
i use moto 360 2nd gen.

thx for answer
and u use any other rom or stock ?
thx again.)

tlacenka said:
thx for answer
and u use any other rom or stock ?
thx again.)
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I see on others threads with custom roms sot is 3-4.5h.
But me with stock(non-rooted) get 4.5-5.5h sot.
I will root and flash custom after 6.0.1,if samsung dont update tw with theme engine and new camera api

tlacenka said:
Hello all note4 users
considering note 4 - to get as new phone
why note - because of spen
why note4 - because easy qi charging, replaceable battery, sd card, maybe because of IR
the question is (for now) - are there any disadvantages of using root on note 4 ?
i know advantages, but dunno if i dont get something wrong when i root the phone ?
i mean disfunction of some spen apps - i will use spen for all wacom advantages, not only as finger replacement.
thx for answers
and second one - which "smart"watch u use with note 4?
thx again
sorry for my english
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An important disadvantage when rooting is the loss of the Knox container
Inviato dal mio SM-N910F utilizzando Tapatalk

ok, last 2 phones to consider - note 4 or lumia 950xl
what i want : wireless charging (i know note4 has not native)
good photo camera
replaceable battery
bonuses of android: root, have a lot of payed apps, ofc the reason for note - spen
bonuses of wm: new of (for me) - "native" run (no java vm)
something new to learn, iris scanner
continuum ? (i know it is cannot run native x86 apps), but is it advantage ?
so..what u think its better for me ?
thx for answers

Go for Lg g5 or lg v10, Note 4 has aged now.

Unless you need to root your device, because you work as a sofware developer and need your device to be root so you can take advantage of those abilities. You don't need to root your device. As stated before it will void your manufacturers warrenty on your device.
I got my Note 4 N910C shortly after the SGS6 series was released and after the Note 5 specs were released. I have absolutely no regrets in getting it as it will probably last me a good few years before I need to upgrade.

in country i live is N910F, but root is what i want...

tlacenka said:
in country i live is N910F, but root is what i want...
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Until Samsung release another Note series with replaceable battery Note 4 is your only choice considering you want S-Pen & replaceable battery.
Note 4 is still a good device & now the price has dropped quite a lot.

dork997 said:
Go for Lg g5 or lg v10, Note 4 has aged now.
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Comparing to the G5 yes it has aged. Comparing to the V10? Oh no it didn't, Note 4 still has better performance than the V10.

Note 4 is the only phone I have had for more than a year, does everything I need and more, and for the age it still performs great

It's a great phone but a huge disadvantage that has not been mentioned is its stock dpi.
It ships with 640 dpi as default which makes the GUI incredibly huge and annoying. You can use adb to change it, but most stock apps do not scale with a custom dpi.

On dpi, I guess it totally depends on user preference. For me 640 dpi is best as i don't like small fonts which are hard to read. With small fonts I have to wear my reading glass every time.

ok, i order note 4
now i need to have look at case and glass .)

tlacenka said:
ok, i order note 4
now i need to have look at case and glass .)
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I hope you will enjoy your new toy when it arrives!

Disadvantage is you miss most of spen functionality in CM roms,otherwise TW customs roms are good.

i hope i will
u know how it is
to root or not to root ? dont know if i need knox...but.. i think i need warranty
i dont want another rom - i want use spen features ) but i think there will be nova launcher... we will see what it can do when it comes
but i need root for some applications and some customizations.)
ok..there is a lot of alternative apps for almost same functionality without root..but not all
and neeed/really want QI charger - any tip for "best one" but not those which make a lot of heat - functional with another case .)

GrippingSphere said:
On dpi, I guess it totally depends on user preference. For me 640 dpi is best as i don't like small fonts which are hard to read. With small fonts I have to wear my reading glass every time.
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Lol true. There's absolutely no point in decreasing DPI after a certain limit. Most think that it's great, but you can bet that all of them have to shrink their eyes a bit to adjust to their small DPI, or keep the phone closer than before to your eyes, I'm talking about people with near perfect to perfect vision.
And Note 4 I think has actually decreased the stock DPI in comparison with Note 3. 640 should be near perfect fort most people, I use 600 anyway, and this is where I don't have to shrink my eyes, or put on my glass, or make any alterations in comparison with stock DPI. Love your eyes, not the more screen area.
And there's App Settings of Xposed with which you can restore the Samsung's stock apps' DPI to default, while keeping a lower valued DPI system wide.

d4rkkn16ht said:
Until Samsung release another Note series with replaceable battery Note 4 is your only choice considering you want S-Pen & replaceable battery.
Note 4 is still a good device & now the price has dropped quite a lot.
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Keep dreaming. I don't see a Note 5 with replaceable battery in a near future. Note6 will probably have Expandable storage but thats it.