[Q] Note 2 to Note 4? - Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I know a lot of people on here are saying that it isn't much of an improvement from 3 to 4. What about going from 2 to 4? Would it be worth it, or should I hold out?

I am still on a plan that includes discounted upgrades, and it it due about the time the Note 4 comes out. I am flip flopping. I would upgrade since I am due, but I don't like at all that the boot loader is locked. If I wanted that, I would get a crApple. I am waiting to see if the carrier is going to put out the cheap quad processor or 8 processor model (I can guess they will go cheap). I don't want to go with an international model and loose LTE just to get the unlocked boot loader. But neither do I want to deal with all the Crapulant carrier bloat either.

It looks like a no brainer to me, but it helps that my Note 2 is losing it's marbles. The extra memory and CPU horsepower alone is worth it. I'm stuck using an old S3 while I wait for the release.
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It just depend on you, it is your money and your necesities.

rcobourn said:
It looks like a no brainer to me, but it helps that my Note 2 is losing it's marbles. The extra memory and CPU horsepower alone is worth it. I'm stuck using an old S3 while I wait for the release.
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I was thinking it was a not brainer until I saw the Note 3 for $99 (new) on Amazon.
S5 - is also $99, but it's only 16gb so that is a deal breaker for me.
If the Note 4 is $299 is the phone $200 better than the Note 3?
Is it $249 better than the LG G3?
Is it $249 better than the HTC M8?
I love the stylus, but I can't decide if an awesome style plus, the 805 processor, Ultra power saving mode and (amoled vs lcd) is worth $249 more?
I've been eligible for an upgrade since June and I waited for the Note 4 announcement and I'm a little disappointed.
I really want to know more about the software: Did they improve touchwiz? Will there be new features with the old Samsung Gear (Fixes to S Health?

I have a note 3 and a note 2..going from the note 2 to 3 was a huge improvement so yes going from 2 to 4 would be a massive jump. I'd do it for sure.

aulwes said:
I was thinking it was a not brainer until I saw the Note 3 for $99 (new) on Amazon.
S5 - is also $99, but it's only 16gb so that is a deal breaker for me.
If the Note 4 is $299 is the phone $200 better than the Note 3?
Is it $249 better than the LG G3?
Is it $249 better than the HTC M8?
I love the stylus, but I can't decide if an awesome style plus, the 805 processor, Ultra power saving mode and (amoled vs lcd) is worth $249 more?
I've been eligible for an upgrade since June and I waited for the Note 4 announcement and I'm a little disappointed.
I really want to know more about the software: Did they improve touchwiz? Will there be new features with the old Samsung Gear (Fixes to S Health?
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The Note 4 also has the best display ever made on a smartphone: http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note4_ShootOut_1.htm
Brighter, more accurate, sharper, less energy use. That $249 difference pays for the best tech available.

I have the note 2 since release day. I love it, but knowing the 4 is coming soon, I may as well grab one. I know some people are not Samsung fans, but I love how fast it is compared to apple. To be honest, I don't really use the stylus that much, but I love the screen size. I'm definitely gonna get it for sure. The xda community always amazes me on what they can do.
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Dave2582 said:
I know a lot of people on here are saying that it isn't much of an improvement from 3 to 4. What about going from 2 to 4? Would it be worth it, or should I hold out?
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maybe for someone not worth to upgrading from Note3 to Note4
but from Note2 >> u will have all features of Note3 (optimized and tweaked features) + more features...
so it will be good idea to do this...
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I think it's a no-brainer, and I'm making the jump.

Consider note 3 users as beta testers for note 4... I guess being worth it is relative. I'm on note 2 and I don't feel as if I NEED to upgrade but I guess it would be nice to have a new toy to play with until the industry tells me I'm outdated again.

Dave2582 said:
I know a lot of people on here are saying that it isn't much of an improvement from 3 to 4. What about going from 2 to 4? Would it be worth it, or should I hold out?
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The problem with the question is not is there an upgrade. It's there is a subjective value placed on the "upgrade." On top of it, we're being asked to know how to place a value on subject value you would have on top of it, like we would have the same wants and needs as you. Basically, you're asking a question that really can't be answered. No offense meant.
Obviously, there are upgrades to the phone from the Note 2 or 3. The Note 2 will have increased changes as compared to the Note 3. I think the hardware is the most objective. You just have to ask your yourself, are the cpu, ram, screen (resolution and size), and so forth increases useful, wanted or needed for how you use your mobile device. You may want to include available accessories, and not just the ones by Samsung, too.
Software wise, this is more difficult because this is dependent on how you use your device. If you don't use the Spen, than the Spen software changes are meaningless. If you use third-party software for everything, such as email, office tools, then the applications that come with the device may be meaningless too; you'll also have to considered if the application you do use, are they compatible.
Except for a few applications, the phone is just going to run faster and smoother. It just has more raw power. The exceptions are going to be more about optimizations with the hardware or OS version.
Are you someone who prefers to root their phone, will it be rootable. If you get it right away, can you wait till a root exploit has been found. Also consider if you want it to be deknoxed or have the Knox trigger tripped or not; you may need to wait longer for a solution not to trigger it.
Obviously, you can always wait. And it's a good option if the phone meets your needs and wants. Getting a new phone is an expense. But maybe getting a new phone may mean you have to go onto a different plan that may be more expensive. Then again, what are you really hoping to gain by waiting for the next version? Maybe waiting, is more about till few things you need are found. I waited on the Note 2 till root and WiFi tether had been found for the particular variant.
In my opinion, the Note 2 is a perfectly fine phone. It's only started to show some age, but not very often. It's mainly on some games where you want to have the highest settings turned on. I haven't seen issues with other applications being as power/resource hungry. If you into hacker/mod side of the phone, I would guess you'll see a lot of developers abandon their Note 2 projects as they more onto new devices, such as the Note 4, and I would expect to see a significant jump when the Note 4 is released.
Personally, I'm upgrading from the Note 2. Big reason is the phone got jacked up and cannot to 3G. Others, I want a larger screen (I was hoping closer to the 6" or bigger), eight core CPU, more ram and internal storage. The Note 2 works for needs, but does not always get me my wants.

I'm one of those that feels the Note 3 wasn't enough of an upgrade from the Note 2.
Most people don't realize that CPU and screen PPI has pretty much reach the peak with phones.
A faster processor means nothing if you aren't maxing out the processor you have and more PPI means nothing since the human eye can't see it.
Even though I have a Note 2 with N3bula ROM with Note 3 features, I want the Note 4 for it's even better multitasking and camera.
However, it has to have root which is why I will not pre-order it. If it doesn't get root, I don't want it.

pool_shark said:
I'm one of those that feels the Note 3 wasn't enough of an upgrade from the Note 2.
Most people don't realize that CPU and screen PPI has pretty much reach the peak with phones.
A faster processor means nothing if you aren't maxing out the processor you have and more PPI means nothing since the human eye can't see it.
Even though I have a Note 2 with N3bula ROM with Note 3 features, I want the Note 4 for it's even better multitasking and camera.
However, it has to have root which is why I will not pre-order it. If it doesn't get root, I don't want it.
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Completely agree. Suspect there's been quite a bit of placebo being pushed on us unsuspecting consumersfor some time now. Little to no drawbacks on my note 2 so it may be sticking around for a little while longer if these anti hack rumors turn out to be true.

pool_shark said:
I'm one of those that feels the Note 3 wasn't enough of an upgrade from the Note 2.
Most people don't realize that CPU and screen PPI has pretty much reach the peak with phones.
A faster processor means nothing if you aren't maxing out the processor you have and more PPI means nothing since the human eye can't see it.
Even though I have a Note 2 with N3bula ROM with Note 3 features, I want the Note 4 for it's even better multitasking and camera.
However, it has to have root which is why I will not pre-order it. If it doesn't get root, I don't want it.
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Completely agree. Suspect there's been quite a bit of placebo being pushed on us unsuspecting consumersfor some time now. Little to no drawbacks on my note 2 so it may be sticking around for a little while longer if these anti hack rumors turn out to be true.
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Completely agree. Suspect there's been quite a bit of placebo being pushed on us unsuspecting consumersfor some time now. Little to no drawbacks on my note 2 so it may be sticking around for a little while longer if these anti hack rumors turn out to be true.

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Undecided on my next device

Now that the Note is coming to AT$T in a couple weeks, I've been doing some pretty serious window shopping. But, there's also the desire in the back of my head for the ever illusive S3. From those that have had the opportunity to use the Note, would you recommend the upgraded Note being released on the 19th or hold out S3 (with it's specs still in the rumor mill)?
My biggest draw to the Note is the fact that you can easily take notes right on it which is a plus for the office. One of my only worries is portability. Summers coming soon and the thought of carrying around a paperback novel (granted its only 40 pages thick) makes me nervous.
Please help sell me one way or another.
modmyphone said:
Now that the Note is coming to AT$T in a couple weeks, I've been doing some pretty serious window shopping. But, there's also the desire in the back of my head for the ever illusive S3. From those that have had the opportunity to use the Note, would you recommend the upgraded Note being released on the 19th or hold out S3 (with it's specs still in the rumor mill)?
My biggest draw to the Note is the fact that you can easily take notes right on it which is a plus for the office. One of my only worries is portability. Summers coming soon and the thought of carrying around a paperback novel (granted its only 40 pages thick) makes me nervous.
Please help sell me one way or another.
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Ok first of all let me tell you that the phone is not an issue carrying around unless you are a fashion concious person. The phone will fit into major pockets except skinny jeans or any tight fitting clothing but if you carry a bag out then it won't be an issue. Any ways I think you should wait to buy the phone unless your in need of a new one quick. If not wait till the s3 comes out and see if you like it then great get that or else get the note and since you waited the note probably dropped in price
As for my opinions on the note, first I think the specs are fabulous, its pretty good enough for a phone in the year 2012 and I think it's gonna rock the boat when ics comes out. Before I bought the phone I did a specs comparison to the iPad 2 ( you know since this phone is targeted as a tablet phone and best tablet is iPad in my opinion) and the note turns out is more superior to the iPad 2 and at that moment I decided the note is my phone. Overall its a more than decent phone only thing is you might need to buy a memory card if your thinking like videos and music and games, I just bought a 16 gig card off Amazon for like I think less than 20 bucks (its original) and while I couldn't transfer my apps to the sd card I did move all my videos photos and music to the sd card freeing a few gigs.
Any ways it comes down to the owner's needs, I wanted a tablet and phone and then I saw someone showing of his phone at the subway taking pictures and stuff then I asked him and found out about the note, let me say this is not a replacement of a tablet, its an alternative so there is a difference
With that I appologise for the long post and wish you have the most awesomest time and love your phone which ever one you get
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modmyphone said:
Now that the Note is coming to AT$T in a couple weeks, I've been doing some pretty serious window shopping. But, there's also the desire in the back of my head for the ever illusive S3. From those that have had the opportunity to use the Note, would you recommend the upgraded Note being released on the 19th or hold out S3 (with it's specs still in the rumor mill)?
My biggest draw to the Note is the fact that you can easily take notes right on it which is a plus for the office. One of my only worries is portability. Summers coming soon and the thought of carrying around a paperback novel (granted its only 40 pages thick) makes me nervous.
Please help sell me one way or another.
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The at&t Galaxy Note isnt a Galaxy Note. Its just a big skyrocket spec wise. Expect heavy choppiness and lag due to the weak snapdragon SoC.
I got my Intl Note about 3 months ago back when there was no news of the S3. I recommend waiting for the S3.
The S3 is most likely gonna feature the new 1.5ghz Exynos or a quad core Exynos.
Once the quad core phones come out you're gonna regret buying a dual core phone.
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xAnimal5 said:
The at&t Galaxy Note isnt a Galaxy Note. Its just a big skyrocket spec wise. Expect heavy choppiness and lag due to the weak snapdragon SoC.
I got my Intl Note about 3 months ago back when there was no news of the S3. I recommend waiting for the S3.
The S3 is most likely gonna feature the new 1.5ghz Exynos or a quad core Exynos.
Once the quad core phones come out you're gonna regret buying a dual core phone.
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I don't get this obsession with people wanting faster and faster processor, I mean I remeber a time when I was about 10 years old people would buy phones based on their looks or price and now every one just wants specs even if the phones are ugly. I'm not implying the phones now a days are ugly but I'm just saying what's up with wanting a faster processor I mean its just 0.1 more than the note how much faster is it gonna be. I think the current speed on the note is fabulous and I think this phone is perfect if I had one complain it would be the lack of space and the keyboard SUCKS. Other than that its an awesome phone
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fabu09 said:
I don't get this obsession with people wanting faster and faster processor, I mean I remeber a time when I was about 10 years old people would buy phones based on their looks or price and now every one just wants specs even if the phones are ugly. I'm not implying the phones now a days are ugly but I'm just saying what's up with wanting a faster processor I mean its just 0.1 more than the note how much faster is it gonna be. I think the current speed on the note is fabulous and I think this phone is perfect if I had one complain it would be the lack of space and the keyboard SUCKS. Other than that its an awesome phone
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This.
The shift from single-core to dual-core is probably much larger than from dual-core to quad-core. This is because Android in general isn't even properly optimized for dual-core let alone quad-core. You'd probably need to wait for "Jellybean" again to get proper optimized changes that takes advantage of a quad-core SoC. What happens then? You're paying a premium price for the first "quad-core" phone that isn't even properly utilized until the next ANdroid update comes.
Never buy into bleeding tech, always get it around the 50 ~ 70% cycle mark. That's where you get the best longevity, utility, and price to performance ratio. =)
If you really like the idea of note taking, there's really no reason not to get a note.. Make a prototype out of cardboard if you want to check portability. It's bout twice a thick as cardboard.
Big screen, stylus - that's what you want. What would you trade that for, in the s3?
ChodTheWacko said:
If you really like the idea of note taking, there's really no reason not to get a note.. Make a prototype out of cardboard if you want to check portability. It's bout twice a thick as cardboard.
Big screen, stylus - that's what you want. What would you trade that for, in the s3?
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Something you cannot see, 2 additional cpu-cores.
I'm going to guess that the S3 is going to have a 4.65" display as well or at most 4.7". They're not going to cannibalize the Note for no apparent reason. On that grounds alone if screen size matters, it's pointless to wait for the S3. If anything, wait for the Note 2 in October.
PoisonWolf said:
This.
The shift from single-core to dual-core is probably much larger than from dual-core to quad-core. This is because Android in general isn't even properly optimized for dual-core let alone quad-core. You'd probably need to wait for "Jellybean" again to get proper optimized changes that takes advantage of a quad-core SoC. What happens then? You're paying a premium price for the first "quad-core" phone that isn't even properly utilized until the next ANdroid update comes.
Never buy into bleeding tech, always get it around the 50 ~ 70% cycle mark. That's where you get the best longevity, utility, and price to performance ratio. =)
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+1 on that. Well said!
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As i think people and correct me if i am wrong, but the quadcores will not be quadcores but 2x dualcores on different speeds so you will have max battery from it with a improved speed. Lets say 2x500 and 2x1500(2000) the 2 high end cores will fire if they needed.
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All of the things a smart phone is used for is improved by a larger screen except portability, so the largest screen that is comfortably mobile is best. The Note is narrow enough to fit almost any pocket but is uncomfortable in trousers/jeans pockets and an alternative such as a deep shirt pocket or jacket pockets is needed. If you can live with that then get the Note for it will give you the best experience.
PoisonWolf said:
Something you cannot see, 2 additional cpu-cores.
I'm going to guess that the S3 is going to have a 4.65" display as well or at most 4.7". They're not going to cannibalize the Note for no apparent reason. On that grounds alone if screen size matters, it's pointless to wait for the S3. If anything, wait for the Note 2 in October.
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I think it's silly to suggest waiting nine months for the purpose of buying something with longevity. That's nearly half of a phone's lifecycle assuming you get a new phone every two years. This phone isn't even out in the US yet!
My advice: go buy your Note and enjoy it. There's no sense in waiting for a product that hasn't been announced, and something better is always around the corner. The best we can do is try to get something that's future-proof and enjoy it, and since the Note is one of the highest-end phones available today and Samsung has announced ICS for the it by the end of Q1, I think it's a smart choice.
Quick question, will the unlocked version of the gnote work on att's lte network?
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Thanks for everyones insight. I'm gonna go with the Note for a multitude of reasons. The quetion for about 39 seconds was n7000 or the I717. Exynos or snapdragon.....
Survey says......
I787. Sorry to burst some bubbles, but a 1.5 dual core snapdragon is not going to be noticeably inferior to the exynos. Plus, the snapdragons are compatible with the LTE network unlike the exynos chipset which gives the major advantage to the I787 in network speed.
fabu09 said:
I don't get this obsession with people wanting faster and faster processor
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If you watch/use flash content you absolutely need the power. My Note SMOKES my Transformer tablet with flash. The Note is silky smooth with no freezing while flash on the Transformer is a jerky freezing mess.
No way would I give up the Notes Exynos processor. It flies.
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Thanks for everyones insight. I'm gonna go with the Note for a multitude of reasons. The quetion for about 39 seconds was n7000 or the I717. Exynos or snapdragon.....
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I787. Sorry to burst some bubbles, but a 1.5 dual core snapdragon is not going to be noticeably inferior to the exynos. Plus, the snapdragons are compatible with the LTE network unlike the exynos chipset which gives the major advantage to the I787 in network speed.
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I really urge you to reconsider. You're basically buying a big Skyrocket if you get that. Even if the speed difference is negligible to you, dev support will be way lower for a Snapdragon chip.
modmyphone said:
Thanks for everyones insight. I'm gonna go with the Note for a multitude of reasons. The quetion for about 39 seconds was n7000 or the I717. Exynos or snapdragon.....
Survey says......
I787. Sorry to burst some bubbles, but a 1.5 dual core snapdragon is not going to be noticeably inferior to the exynos. Plus, the snapdragons are compatible with the LTE network unlike the exynos chipset which gives the major advantage to the I787 in network speed.
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Go read reviews from people who traded their OG SGSII's for Skyrockets.
I personally went to go check out the skyrocket on release day and there was so much lag compared to the OG SGSII model.
But, the snapdragon barely keeps the skyrocket running, the note is a lot bigger, so it requires more processor power, something that the snapdragon can't give
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Go read reviews from people who traded their OG SGSII's for Skyrockets.
I personally went to go check out the skyrocket on release day and there was so much lag compared to the OG SGSII model.
But, the snapdragon barely keeps the skyrocket running, the note is a lot bigger, so it requires more processor power, something that the snapdragon can't give
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I agree partially with this statement. I have both the Note and Skyrocket now and had the SGS2 as well.
In terms of day to day speed SGS2 > Skyrocket > Note
The Note isn't slow, but imagine the difference in pixels it's pushing. I can't imagine the ATT Note on that snapdragon (which in all reality is not that bad, just not an exynos)
I actually was lucky enough to be in the right spot at he right time today and place the AT&T Note in my hands. Was at my local company store today dropping off a freshly rooted and cleaned SGS2 to an aquatintance there and joking asked if he has a store unit yet. To my surprise he said "Yup" and walked over to a corporate guy who was there on business who happened to be carrying one.
Contrary to speculations...even in it's stock and bloated form, it was VERY responsive. I noticed next to no lag and can only imagine what the thing can do when overclocked. Every web page I went to, opened pretty much at desktop speeds and jumping from app to app was fluid and seemless.
Now am I gonna be listening to Pandora, watching Netflix, tethering 4 devices and setting up a Webex? Probably not. I actually have to work while at work and my daughter gets my home time. PDF's, business uses, and making calls.... that about sums it up these days.

[Q] Note 2 or S IV?

Which would you go with? I have a few people who are due for upgrade and they're unsure whether to go with the Note 2 or the S IV for AT&T... What does everyone think? Pros and cons of both.
S4 = 1080P = decision over.
Your question should be S4 or wait for N3.
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The Galaxy S4 is just the better choice for me.
1. A lot more pocketable than the Note.
2. 1080p screen.
3. Pretty much anything can be used for screen input.(gloves, pencil, keys, screwdriver, etc...)
Those would be my big 3 reasons.
The display on the N2 is fine. It's achieves 1.073 arcminutes with "1" being the most the human eye can process at 12-15" away. Anything under 1 arcminute can't be resolved by the human eye. The SGS4 and One are probably about 0.66 arcminutes.
As for which to buy, unless you plan on using S Note/S Pen, the SGS4's a better choice. It's got newer more powerful h//w and a bunch of new features. A Note 3 is due out in fall and will have all the features of the SGS4 plus (if rumors are true) the Orb 360 camera, Octa/LTE with Qualcomm's new RF360 LTE radio that supports all 40 worldwide bands, and most likely a 5.9" display in the same size body as the N2. If you buy a SGS4 and take good care of it you should be able to get a decent price selling it as it should hold its value well. Then you can buy the N3 in the fall. I'm a heavy productivity user and won't buy a non-Note phone because of S Pen/S Note. But I think I'm like one of ten people that actually use those features and multiview.
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S4 = 1080P = decision over.
Your question should be S4 or wait for N3.
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What he said. Although I wouldn't stop at 1080p = decision over, it's more than that.
but yeah at this point it's either S4 or wait for note 3.
i would go with s4 or wait for note 3
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The Galaxy S4 is just the better choice for me.
1. A lot more pocketable than the Note.
2. 1080p screen.
3. Pretty much anything can be used for screen input.(gloves, pencil, keys, screwdriver, etc...)
Those would be my big 3 reasons.
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Nice now i can finally put that ice pick i bought to use.
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Nice now i can finally put that ice pick i bought to use.
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Looool
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But if you want more battery life (nearly all tests seem to proof that) and more daily usefull gimmicks (s-pen, multiscreen etc) then you should by a Note 2 for a lower price.
The size still matters
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But if you want more battery life (nearly all tests seem to proof that) and more daily usefull gimmicks (s-pen, multiscreen etc) then you should by a Note 2 for a lower price.
The size still matters
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As said above ^^^^^^^^ I don't need no stinkin' daily gimmicks and always purchase a 2nd battery just in case so as not to worry n such.
It's already been said but:
1080p Screen - Awesome!, Especially with my eyes gettin' older....Lol
Android 4.2
13Mp Camera
More pocketable
Faster Processor
Can't wait - gonna hook it up when the time comes
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I don't need no stinkin' daily gimmicks
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S Pen and S Note are far from "stinkin' daily gimmicks." The problem is too many people buy or consider the N2 for the wrong reasons. I use S Pen and S Note heavily (like at least a dozen times a day) and bought the N2 because of my experience with them on the Note 10.1. And you need a display the size of the N2 in order to be able to ink on it. Some people bought/buy it over the SGS3 for the larger/better display and others bought it for Exynos/LTE. But S Note/S Pen are meant to be the driving features. So I get people not wanting or needing those features but they aren't who Samsung made the N2 for in the first place. There's nothing like the Note-series for people that "get it;" for those that don't, move along, there's nothing to see here. And when the N3 comes out it’ll do more than the SGS4 and be Octa/LTE and a whole new cycle of people buying it for the wrong reasons will start again. And to your point, Nexi purists think every phone that’s not AOSP is a “stinkin’ daily gimmick.” To each their own.
I wondered the same thing for a while,
even though the S4 improves over pretty much everything on the Note II the S-pen and the size do matter.
I decided to go with the S4, but the Note II is isn't in any way a bad phone, maybe it's just everything you need and more
glensta said:
As said above ^^^^^^^^ I don't need no stinkin' daily gimmicks and always purchase a 2nd battery just in case so as not to worry n such.
It's already been said but:
1080p Screen - Awesome!, Especially with my eyes gettin' older....Lol
Android 4.2
13Mp Camera
More pocketable
Faster Processor
Can't wait - gonna hook it up when the time comes
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only 1080p ? More pixels please for your old eyes. :silly:
Android 4.2 will be on both available.
8 vs 13 MP Cam on smartphones is really nearly the same for me. Except S4 Panorama Software feature.
pocketable? yes this one is a countable difference :victory:
Faster processor? Games?=maybe in 1-2 years a handfull games will profit? standard usage? I run Android 4.2.2 with Dualcore processor on 1,3 GHz lagfree! ?So for what?
You should change the title to Note 3 or S4. N2 v S4 doesn't really make much sense as N2 is still a last gen phablet. I'll get S4 over N3 anytime because the notes are too big for me. And I don't really need s pen so S4 pretty much perfect for me
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Who's upgrading from the Note 2 and why?

I had a Note 1, and I initially had zero intention on getting an Note 2, until I played with one. Now that I have a Note 2, I really don't think I need the Note 3 . . . . but I haven't had it in my hands yet.
Who's going to upgrade from the 2 to to 3, and if you are, what features are pushing you to do it?
I'm still on the fence. The 1080p screen is really the only thing that's tempting me at the moment.
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I had a Note 1, and I initially had zero intention on getting an Note 2, until I played with one. Now that I have a Note 2, I really don't think I need the Note 3...but I haven't had it in my hands yet.
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I have a feeling history will repeat itself for you
On the fence, no complaints about my note 2, but I do feel bored of it... First world problems. I am eager to see what the note 3 is like in person as well as the nexus 5.
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On the fence, no complaints about my note 2, but I do feel bored of it... First world problems. I am eager to see what the note 3 is like in person as well as the nexus 5.
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I'm the same. Have had the Note 2 just about a year now, and kind of feel like I need to upgrade just to get something new. Plus I really like the look of the window flip cover and the leather textured back. I'm probably gonna hold off at least until the Nexus 5 gets announced though, plus there doesn't seem to be a way to get one on AT&T that isn't bootloader locked yet.
I am upgrading for 2 main reasons the full HD screen and for the 32 gig built in memory ( the update to put apps on sd card will be useful as well). I am constantly swapping apps around on my note 2 because we never got the ipdate to move apps to sd. Plus I am a tech junkie.
My Tech Junkie factor will probably be the big reason for me to do it . . . Does anyone know of any stores I can walk into any time soon to get my hands on it and decide if I want to pre-order or not?
Right now I'm playing around with an LG G2 which has similar internal specs compared to the Note 3. Just the performance alone is enough for me to upgrade from my Note 2. I will be returning the G2 by the 4th of October to maximize my $35.00 14 day rental of the phone from Verizon. I will get the Note 3 when it's available. The G2 is a nice phone, but I want the larger screen.
dont know if my 2 cents counts but i traded the note 2 for an s4 and wish i would have kept the note 2 but note 3 all the way now. Bigger better, screen, ram and processor have me sold alone
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dont know if my 2 cents counts but i traded the note 2 for an s4 and wish i would have kept the note 2 but note 3 all the way now. Bigger better, screen, ram and processor have me sold alone
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Pretty much on the same boat. Never should have sold my n2 for the s4. The s4 is going away now, can't wait to get the note 3.
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Pretty much on the same boat. Never should have sold my n2 for the s4. The s4 is going away now, can't wait to get the note 3.
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yeah my s4 has been gone for a few weeks now. glad to get rid of it lol but this bionic im on is just as bad haha and cant wait for the note 3! better be awesome!
Upgrading here from Note 2 .. I have ZERO problems with it.. but Note 3 is just tempting .. upgraded everything even the Weight of the device ..
I cant let go of this habit of changing devices .. or you know what .. Ill call it a hobby and carry on.
The device will be sold in our markets from the 25th.. there is even a countdown timer in the Samsung shop ..
Most likely upgrading because of the screen and the "leather" back, but not immediately when released. I'd rather wait for a month longer for the price to drop quite a bit, and it will drop.
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Most likely upgrading because of the screen and the "leather" back, but not immediately when released. I'd rather wait for a month longer for the price to drop quite a bit, and it will drop.
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By how much do you think? I'm debating canceling my pre order if it's substantial enough.
I'm upgrading from the note 2 to the note 3 because 1. More space! 2. Faster GPU! 3.faster CPU 4. Better camera 5. More RAM. That is all .
I don't care for the spen. I have never taken mine out from the note 2.
I take alot of pictures so the upgraded camera will be a welcomed addition. I almost brought the Nokia 1020 just for its 46mp camera
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Agree on the camera. I would upgrade from my Note 2 on all of the above in fact except for Knox. Not sure I want a locked down device, or to lose my warranty on day one! If you can't flash, what's the point? I'm waiting a while to see how this shakes out...
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Another upgrade over here. The N2 has been the best phone I could ask for but more screen is always welcome. And if history repeats N3 will get even better battery life than N2! Had N1 (LTE and int'l) and N2 (i317m) so the N3 int'l will be a real treat.
The S4 is on Craigslist tonight.
5 months ago, i was talking with my wife and said i won't upgrade to note 3 when it is come out..
when i see note 3 now with more feature and more power.. so tempting...
The reasons i probably upgrade:
- screen 1080p
-3GB ram i know i don't need it lol
- more features..
- design a lot better then note 2...
now the only problem is.. i can't decide which one to get.. exynos or snapdragon when i want to get it..
Last, i was expecting bigger battery tho.. maybe 3,600 mAh.. but it is still the same.. so another one that influence my decision is have to wait for review about battery life.
I am upgrading just for the screen. My gf got the s4 and the screen is amazing. I have much better than average near sight but cant see past 30ft for my life, but I can see the pixels on my note 2. No one else i know can see them but all i see is jaggies and boxes. So I am looking forward to the screen,
Some other bonuses is the cpu. After seeing a review of the lg2 and knowing it has very similar performance, i cant wait to get my hands on a device that fast. Also the lg2 has been getting better battery life than the note 2 with only a 3,000mah battery. So there might be a good increase in battery life for the note 3.
And last is the software. It can be done on the note 2 but you know samsung will not add the features to the note 2. I use multiple windows a lot and am looking forward to use more than one app at one. AND THE NOTE 2 CAN DO THIS! I have had 2 of the same apps open before by opening one app then in the other window open a file with the same app and it works no problem, but i would like this to be easier.
I pre-ordered mine and now have to wait 3 weeks
Upgrading from Note 2. More RAM. More cpu poerr. Biegger screen. Better technology.

Samsung Galaxy Note 4

Someone had to start this topic, I guess it is going to be me.
I've been a note2 user since the release in 2012, never felt enough contempt to upgrade as note 3 had incremental improvements, besides most of the features were eventually ported to note 2, but now I believe it is time.
Note 2 is still a fantastic phone and I don't feel restricted by any heavy games ( just occasional gamer) or apps, the main bump for me will be camera and I also love what Samsung done with microphones in note 4, I have to record a lot of conversations and the feature that able to identify which direction the voice is coming from might be very handy. I'm a huge fan of oculus rift and the announcement of Gear Vr was very intriguing as I believe it is the future of entertainment and having advantage of note 4 gorgeous screen...
Are you excited about new note 4? Are you going to upgrade? Satisfied with the improvements Samsung made to our beloved Note line? How do you find new s pen features?
What are your thoughts in Gear Vr? Availability in different countries etc.
Vichenec said:
Someone had to start this topic, I guess it is going to be me.
I've been a note2 user since the release in 2012, never felt enough contempt to upgrade as note 3 had incremental improvements, besides most of the features were eventually ported to note 2, but now I believe it is time.
Note 2 is still a fantastic phone and I don't feel restricted by any heavy games ( just occasional gamer) or apps, the main bump for me will be camera and I also love what Samsung done with microphones in note 4, I have to record a lot of conversations and the feature that able to identify which direction the voice is coming from might be very handy. I'm a huge fan of oculus rift and the announcement of Gear Vr was very intriguing as I believe it is the future of entertainment and having advantage of note 4 gorgeous screen...
Are you excited about new note 4? Are you going to upgrade? Satisfied with the improvements Samsung made to our beloved Note line? How do you find new s pen features?
What are your thoughts in Gear Vr? Availability in different countries etc.
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So exited , i love the metal round , QHD screen , 4G cat 6 same size than N2 , i think i'll buy it next month :victory:
I want that rom on my note2. I don't see enough advances to upgrade to the note4 hardware. I'll wait for the note5 next year.
if someone can port Note 4 S Pen feature to Note 2, than i probably won't upgrade
there's some disappointment for Note 4 hardware, but overall i like the improvement from Note 2
Will probably upgrade to that too since my mobile plan expires next year. Looking at it's features, it'll be a waste to install custom firmwares on it. But then, I said that for my Note 2 and it stayed at stock for 1 week only lol.
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Notes never impress me, but note4 seriously did with the metal body, I am not at a Samsung fan,
Apart from the metal body nothing is exciting enough for me
this is probably going to be my next upgrade!
i love the note edge but i won't buy a device with 3gb of ram - it's bad luck
i will wait for note 5 or edge 2 hopefully with 4gb of ram
and my note 2 is still good, so why change it
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i love the note edge but i won't buy a device with 3gb of ram - it's bad luck
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That's the best reason I have heard so far why someone wouldn't buy note edge/4!!:good:
Expected a 64bit processor plus 4 gig ram also
No more improvement in battery but
Its worth to upgrade from note 2 no doubt
Those sensors display and features plus power it does have everything in the market
Why upgrade to Note 4
I was waiting for Note 4 but there is for now no reason to upgrade. I Like the S-Pen but I was hoping that the note 4 will be waterresistent like S5 but it isn't so if I need a new Phone then S5.
Really I don't need Gear VR and no Gear S. And Pay maybe a 100 bugs only for the Metal around? No thats not worth.
Hope there will be an APP for the Pen Features.
George
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Expected a 64bit processor plus 4 gig ram also
No more improvement in battery but
Its worth to upgrade from note 2 no doubt
Those sensors display and features plus power it does have everything in the market
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I believe exynos variant is 64 bit, benchmarks are higher on exynos as well. Nevertheless as far as I know developers don't really like exynos due to its closed source nature
im not excited abt note 4, through i really like the metal bumper of the device. However, do anybody notice that note 4 use USB port 2.0 instead 3.0
My thoughts exactly.
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I want that rom on my note2. I don't see enough advances to upgrade to the note4 hardware. I'll wait for the note5 next year.
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That's my feeling as well. A faster processor is nice, but I'm not really having trouble with a slow phone. a UV sensor is a bit meh, it's a nice novelty but not a reason to upgrade. The screen might be worth considering but I'm not really watching entire movies or taking that much pictures with it so I'll survive.
The main drawbacks for me are
- No water/dust protection like the S5
- No 64 bit processor for future proofing.
The edge seems like a nice novelty, but I'm afraid it won't be used by many apps.
The other phones like the Sony Z3, LG G3, moto X all have their own drawbacks (smaller screen, slower, ... ) so I think the note will have to be in service for a while It's just too good, so I don't have that much of a compelling reason to switch.
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Its worth to upgrade from note 2 no doubt /QUOTE]
Not for me, and I'm guessing most people have the same feeling. It seems a good phone, and would be my prime candidate if I didn't have the note 2, but especially as we don't get phones with plans it is a bit pricey for an upgrade I don't need
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alone again said:
im not excited abt note 4, through i really like the metal bumper of the device. However, do anybody notice that note 4 use USB port 2.0 instead 3.0
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That USB 3.0 was only helpful if you are connecting your phone to PC to transfer stuff between mobile and pc(USB 3.0 port of PC).When it comes to charging your phone several users of Note 3 mentioned that there was no difference in charging speeds when they used USB 3.0 or USB 2.0. Also samsung has implemented fast charge in note 4 which is supposed to charge the device 30% faster than usual.
My mobile contract is up for renewal so I'm getting the Note 4 as soon as it's released in the UK. The upgrades to the screen and camera are worth it alone.
Those people saying they need 4GB of RAM on a phone need to have a word with themselves. There is absolutely no need to have 4GB RAM on a mobile device. Even desktop PCs rarely utilise 4GB RAM at any one time (in "normal" use, obviously editing full HD/4K video or suchlike will require ludicrous amounts of RAM).
Similarly, the main benefit of a 64-bit CPU is the ability to address more than 4GB of memory space. Again, there's little benefit to having a 64-bit capable mobile device. In the end they just become numbers to impress your mates with down the pub.
My Note 2 still runs every app/game I throw at it with no slowdown or lag, and it never complains of being low on RAM, and it's *only* got 2GB
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I want that rom on my note2. I don't see enough advances to upgrade to the note4 hardware. I'll wait for the note5 next year.
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true...current note 4 release have upset me because
1.missing 4gb ram
2.camera isn't 20 or 21 mp
3.missing dust proof water proof and anti scratch abilities
4.no major hardware updates its not 64bit cpu..while qualcom have announced one 810
5.missing nfc payment
6.not enough slimmer or thinner
and a lot to say but as i love note series so don't want to downgrade reputation
I've got my Note II the same released day, I skipped the Note 3, its so much configured that I don't think will get the Note 4 this time around again, or may be I will after a while when the prices drop substantially..
maybe i go with the note 4
especially with the camera and spen improvement
I got my note 2 in 2013, have no intention on upgrading atm but if there is a price drop I might go for the note 3 as there are no big diffrence to note 4

Should I get the Note 3 or wait for the Note 4?

I'm in Canada, and unfortunately my carrier won't be carrying the Note 4, but, they do have the GS5.
I was planning on selling the GS5 for $600-$650 after market and getting a brand new sealed aftermarket Note 3 for $550.
The Note 4 is surely going to be $750 or $700 after market, and isn't coming for a month or two in Canada.
Is the wait and $ really worth it, or is the N3 good enough to run for the next year or two?
For the price difference i would wait for note 4.
The Note 3 will last at least another year in terms of being high-end. Two depends on when they come with 64bit and S810. (probably Note 5.)
The Snapdragon 805 isn't really an improvement, since the N4 also has 3GB RAM.
The only real improvements are the 2k resolution (over 1080p on N3), the Cat6 LTE radio (won't matter of your provider limits the speed) and it'll get newer android versions.
The Note 3 is the best option in terms of hardware/price. The Note 4 is newer.
It's nowhere near the big improvement the Note 3 was over the Note 2.
The difference between the N3 and N4 is very, very small.
My advice? Get the Note 3 for the next year, and wait for the Note 5.
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The Note 3 will last at least another year in terms of being high-end. Two depends on when they come with 64bit and S810. (probably Note 5.)
The Snapdragon 805 isn't really an improvement, since the N4 also has 3GB RAM.
The only real improvements are the 2k resolution (over 1080p on N3), the Cat6 LTE radio (won't matter of your provider limits the speed) and it'll get newer android versions.
The Note 3 is the best option in terms of hardware/price. The Note 4 is newer.
It's nowhere near the big improvement the Note 3 was over the Note 2.
The difference between the N3 and N4 is very, very small.
My advice? Get the Note 3 for the next year, and wait for the Note 5.
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I did the same thing!
Bought the Note 3 one week ago.
Not so many "big" differences with the Note 4.
Cheerss!
CruiseMod said:
I did the same thing!
Bought the Note 3 one week ago.
Not so many "big" differences with the Note 4.
Cheerss!
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Haha. I did the same 10 days ago. ...
Thanks everyone!
I'm thinking between OnePlus One and this.
Note 3 is my advice
You can get the Note 3 at a good price now, and sure you'll have almost all the new software features from the Note 4 once it cames out. As mentioned before changes arent a lot on HW. 64 bit processors are just beggining its road in mobile phones and you wont see applications that take much advantage of this new architecture. And also remember, Sammy comes with a new device echa 6 months so you wont have to wait for so long :silly:
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You can get the Note 3 at a good price now, and sure you'll have almost all the new software features from the Note 4 once it cames out.
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Nope, never...
Samsung is worse than apple when it comes to moving features down the pipeline.
Did my note get the features of the S3/Note2 or the UI? Nope
Did my note 2 get the features or the UI of S4/Note3? Nope
Would my current note 3 get the features or the UI of the S5/Note4? Do i even need to answer that?
The best we will get is the minimal UI changes strongly associated with their Android L review when we get the update 6 months later from the Note 4 ( again just BS )
and just a bump in Android version with no real features added to us, sometimes i wonder why do i keep buying phones from samsung...
Hell Guardian said:
Nope, never...
Samsung is worse than apple when it comes to moving features down the pipeline.
Did my note get the features of the S3/Note2 or the UI? Nope
Did my note 2 get the features or the UI of S4/Note3? Nope
Would my current note 3 get the features or the UI of the S5/Note4? Do i even need to answer that?
The best we will get is the minimal UI changes strongly associated with their Android L review when we get the update 6 months later from the Note 4 ( again just BS )
and just a bump in Android version with no real features added to us, sometimes i wonder why do i keep buying phones from samsung...
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I agree with you for those who do not want to root and install custom roms.
Otherwise the Note 3 is a great piece of hardware. Just take a look at the development section to see that there are dozens of roms to choose. It is easy to keep it up to date with Android new versions.
Actually, all my other Samsung phones, including the original Galaxy Note, are running Android 4.4.4. All you have to do is get rid of Samsung stock roms.
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Thanks everyone!
I'm thinking between OnePlus One and this.
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OnePlus One. I'm rooting for it.
Note 3 compared to OPO is like night and day....I converted most of my Note 3 friends to get the OPO and they never looked back. Only thing I miss is the AMOLED screen, and that's all. It's been sitting in my drawer fully rooted, custom ROM'd, custom kernel'd, recovery and all 0x0, every Note 3 user's dream, currently locked up in a box with 0% battery since I don't use it as a daily driver anymore - It's that good.
AOSP development on the OPO is Legendary and CM is backing every firmware update released with newer and better features. Camera is far more superior and no infamous Samsung camera focus lag time.
Try the OPO. It's called the 2014 Flagship Killer for a reason, and the price being so low, might as well get 2 OPOs instead of 1 N3.
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The Note 3 will last at least another year in terms of being high-end. Two depends on when they come with 64bit and S810. (probably Note 5.)
The Snapdragon 805 isn't really an improvement, since the N4 also has 3GB RAM.
The only real improvements are the 2k resolution (over 1080p on N3), the Cat6 LTE radio (won't matter of your provider limits the speed) and it'll get newer android versions.
The Note 3 is the best option in terms of hardware/price. The Note 4 is newer.
It's nowhere near the big improvement the Note 3 was over the Note 2.
The difference between the N3 and N4 is very, very small.
My advice? Get the Note 3 for the next year, and wait for the Note 5.
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The lady knows what's she's talking about ?
@op: you asked on the Note 3 forum, so most people will say their phone is still a beast and other phones are not worth it. If money isn't an issue, absolutely go for the note 4. It's the newer device, it's more future proof, there is absolutely no logical argument not to get it in favor of the note 3 (except finances, like I said).
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I'm in Canada, and unfortunately my carrier won't be carrying the Note 4, but, they do have the GS5.
I was planning on selling the GS5 for $600-$650 after market and getting a brand new sealed aftermarket Note 3 for $550.
The Note 4 is surely going to be $750 or $700 after market, and isn't coming for a month or two in Canada.
Is the wait and $ really worth it, or is the N3 good enough to run for the next year or two?
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Wait for the note 4 the future is fast becoming qhd **** 1080p trust me you will not regret getting the note 4
The note 3 is the first phone I've ever owned that I don't feel like upgrading for a newer model. To date I have aways bought a new phone every year regardless. But if you have the money the note 4 looks really nice with the new screen and better build quality. The thing with the note series is that the phone will remain current for 2 years or so after release.
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currently locked up in a box with 0% battery since I don't use it as a daily driver anymore - It's that good.
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You better charge it to around 50% and then put it in the drawer, long time with depleted battery will kill it

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