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"Alien Battery"

I just sourced a non-SonyEricsson battery for my phone.
It powers the phone fine but when the phone is plugged in for power charging I get an error message saying that the battery in the phone is "Alien" therefore it will not be charged.
I have to charge the battery through a separate charging box
I suppose there is no software fix for this ?

got this when i was using a k610i battery with my xperia but if i recall i restarted the phone and it started working but otherwise i dont know

why would you use a non-SE battery??

Is this it?

orelsi said:
Is this it?
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lool!!! How amusing

Bought the non-SE battery as it was good value, and slightly more mAh capacity.

orelsi said:
is this it?
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omg! Rofl!!11!!1onone

I Just ordered a Mugen batteries, i hope i wont have the same issue.
can you post the information about your batterie?

Here is the battery.
No brand, it is made in Japan.

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pokdub said:
Here is the battery.
No brand, it is made in Japan.
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i bought three of them when i first got my xperia.
they were all complete crap.
They never gave accurate battery readings and their life time was very very short and at the end of it left my xperia not being able to turn on - now all 3 of them are so discharged i cant even be bothered to charge them - trust me dont rely on these batteries they are awful

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Ever heard Made in Japan "Copy".
hehe.

well just be careful guys with the alien battery. most MADE IN CHINA batteries don't have promissed mAh at all. especialy when cheap. we have a meassuring device in work and evev the 3000something mAh isn't 3000 but just 2500. second, the cheap batteries don't have short circuit protection chip.. so just be careful. mugen may be good, but the 3000mAh they offer isn't simply 3000

Battery HB4F1

What about this battery????
1700MAH HB4F1 Battery For Huawei U8800 i found on ebay
Seems interesting. Have anyone baught?

Should work fine. Nice to know that the U8800 battery is the same as some other Huawei devices too. Should be plenty of batteries for sale.
I fancy a high capacity battery myself.

looks good...i already got an extra one from deal extreme but it's a cheap knock off. would love to hear from someone that bought this one.

darkado said:
looks good...i already got an extra one from deal extreme but it's a cheap knock off. would love to hear from someone that bought this one.
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it s not good the one from dealextreme; I mean does it last enough;
Tapatalked from bed...

i know, 5 hours at the most. still ok for emergencies.

I bought it today... now just waiting for it....

HB4F1
the cheap knock off is the one you can find from dealextreme by searching u8800?
dealextreme.com/p/genuine-hb4f1-compatible-rechargeable-3-7v-1500mah-li-ion-battery-for-huawei-e585-e5830-70554
i just ordered 2. :/
but it's genuine AND compatible

Hi
I have found this battery on ebay: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GOLD-2430MAH-HB4F1-BUSINESS-BATTERY-HUAWEI-E5830-E5832-E5836-E5838-E5-ASCEND-/130576493812?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1e66f72cf4 and from the description "seems" possible a good capacity. For me if the technology is always lipo is impossible a capacity of 2.4A with same battery size and weight, but 1.7~1.8 is credible if really the cell is Japan made.
Bye
Fabryxy
Edit: sorry but from the neutral feedback of the seller seems that many people have denote same\less capacity of stock battery.

fabryxy said:
Hi
I have found this battery on ebay: REMOVED and from the description "seems" possible a good capacity. For me if the technology is always lipo is impossible a capacity of 2.4A with same battery size and weight, but 1.7~1.8 is credible if really the cell is Japan made.
Bye
Fabryxy
Edit: sorry but from the neutral feedback of the seller seems that many people have denote same\less capacity of stock battery.
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see this
Made in Japan
2 year warranty
Ultra-high capacity battery
Maximizes time between charges
Delivers superior performance
Robust & durable battery
Direct battery replacement
Stable and safe to use
No "memory effect"
Lightweight lithium-ion
Capacity: 2430mAh
Well the original battery is a Lithium Polymer and NOT a Lithium Ion
so there is a difference between both off them

Pretty ****ty battery. Probaply not the battery what it says.

someone have tried one of these powerful battery like the 1700mah or 2430mah one?

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someone have tried one of these powerful battery like the 1700mah or 2430mah one?
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From what I've read, the "amazing" gold 1800/2430mAh batteries are extremely crap.

i have ordered a 1800 battery and waiting to arrive in monday so ill test it and post my opinion!

anyone tested? its capacity is real?

[Q] Can other manufacturer battery harm my device ?

I wanna buy additional battery for galaxy s4 i9500
if i buy zerolemon 3000mAh battery i dont get nfc
if i buy samsung oem 2600mAh battery i get nfc...
i dont care about nfc to be frank
I want to know if that zerolemon battery can fry the chipset or motherboard or any other part ?
coz my playstation got fried coz of a duplicate adapter and it happend over a time period of 8 months... !
so i wanna know can zerolemon 3000mAh battery fry my chipset coz its like 20$ for 2 batteries and a free charger but samsung will be like 25$ for 1 battery without a charger ....
please help
thanks

anuj6111 said:
I wanna buy additional battery for galaxy s4 i9500
if i buy zerolemon 3000mAh battery i dont get nfc
if i buy samsung oem 2600mAh battery i get nfc...
i dont care about nfc to be frank
I want to know if that zerolemon battery can fry the chipset or motherboard or any other part ?
coz my playstation got fried coz of a duplicate adapter and it happend over a time period of 8 months... !
so i wanna know can zerolemon 3000mAh battery fry my chipset coz its like 20$ for 2 batteries and a free charger but samsung will be like 25$ for 1 battery without a charger ....
please help
thanks
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If NFC ain't working,it is safer to use official.
Other than mAh ,also check input, output volt,etc.

BleedingIris said:
If NFC ain't working,it is safer to use official.
Other than mAh ,also check input, output volt,etc.
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The input and output everything is same as samsung only manufacturer is different .... so I am confused if zerolemon is giving the battery so cheap is it e1 up to the quality standards of samsung ... coz I dont want to fry this device ... can't afford another one for 2 yrs ..

be easy. Never will it fry your chipset.
the sumsung battery is 3.8v in average , 4.35V limited, highest li-ion battery. most other battery is 3.7v average,4.2 limited.
waht's more, inside the phone there are protection circuit and dc-dc circuit to low the battery voltage from 3.5-4.35 to the voltages every part of phone needed.

jiant.li said:
be easy. Never will it fry your chipset.
the sumsung battery is 3.8v in average , 4.35V limited, highest li-ion battery. most other battery is 3.7v average,4.2 limited.
waht's more, inside the phone there are protection circuit and dc-dc circuit to low the battery voltage from 3.5-4.35 to the voltages every part of phone needed.
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are you sure about this thing ?
if this the senario then i will buy the zerolemon 3000mAh batteries as they are way cheaper than samsung oem !:victory:

The thing is this:
Any battery, even OEM, has the potential to harm your device, but the Samsung batteries are very high quality and less likely than the super-cheap chinese knock off copies that are made to look like Samsung batteries that you see everywhere on eBay.
A good aftermarket battery, such as Anker (or Zero Lemon or Mugen, etc.) is probably just as safe as OEM, because their quality is also very high, and they carry a good warranty. Personally, I have used Anker in my S2, S3 without any issues at all for years.

zero lemon it is then !!:victory:

donalgodon said:
The thing is this:
Any battery, even OEM, has the potential to harm your device, but the Samsung batteries are very high quality and less likely than the super-cheap chinese knock off copies that are made to look like Samsung batteries that you see everywhere on eBay.
A good aftermarket battery, such as Anker (or Zero Lemon or Mugen, etc.) is probably just as safe as OEM, because their quality is also very high, and they carry a good warranty. Personally, I have used Anker in my S2, S3 without any issues at all for years.
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yeah, but the potential is very few. There are many protection circuit for the phone. only if all of them failed, which rarely happens.
Chinese battery is always unsafe and ,it has less mAh than it marked.
I'v buy a 2000mAh in my country for S2 whose OEM battery only 1600mAh. I test it on a balance charger for modelplanes, only 1100mAh.

Stick with 'reputable' brands if you're going to use non-Samsung batteries. Not worth risking $800 worth of electronics to find out why the hard way.

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Stick with 'reputable' brands if you're going to use non-Samsung batteries. Not worth risking $800 worth of electronics to find out why the hard way.
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Is zerolemon reputable ??

Can't personally vouch for them/not as I've never used their products. But price is almost always a good guide with these things, if they're really cheap, stay away from their stuff.

they are cheap but a lotta people using them ...
So I am confused .... should I just buy oem ?

There's no 'right/wrong answer'. Some people on here have had good experiences with them, some people haven't. I suspect this is because quality of manufacture can vary widely between manufacturers & even between different 'batches' of the same battery from the same manufacturer. For me, I've had one experience with a cheapo brand non-Samsung battery (with my S2) which was a poor one & I was fortunate I could get a refund. End result = I won't use anything other than original Samsung batteries.

MistahBungle said:
There's no 'right/wrong answer'. Some people on here have had good experiences with them, some people haven't. I suspect this is because quality of manufacture can vary widely between manufacturers & even between different 'batches' of the same battery from the same manufacturer. For me, I've had one experience with a cheapo brand non-Samsung battery (with my S2) which was a poor one & I was fortunate I could get a refund. End result = I won't use anything other than original Samsung batteries.
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so basically its a gamble !
and in my case the house always wins !!!
so i think it will be better to stick to oem batteries ...

It can be a gamble, yeah. But plenty of people on here swear non-Samsung/cheap (as opposed to more expensive ones from reliable companies like Mugen, etc) batteries are fine from lots of manufacturers & they've had good experiences with them, however, if you look through Accessories/elsewhere, you see plenty of people who haven't had good experiences with them.
If you want a battery to work exactly as it should, be at or very very close to the rated capacity printed on the outside, and to last you a reasonable amount of time/give you plenty of use guaranteed (important word), then buy Samsung branded batteries. You know the quality of manufacture is consistent/of a high standard, and if you somehow get one that isn't, it's easy to get a replacement or your money back (and cases like this are rare).

zerolemon says battery for 19$ + 15$ for shipping !!
Lmao ! :laugh::laugh:
i can get the samsung official charging kit and official battery for less than that here !!
OEM it is then !

I have the Anker battery and find it better than the stock battery. Could be placebo but I find it gives me a tiny bit extra battery life.
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I would never go aftermarket to be honest. I just couldn't stomach the thought of my phone being denied quality power supply.

May be yes.
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New battery left for 2 years ?

I Found some new, in its original package battery that is manufactered in 2014, it's like 18 euros so i might get it, it's 100% genuine and new it's in samsung white package... But i just wonder did that battery degrade if it was left out for 2+ years? ty

Yes. The question is, how much degradation?

Batteries degrade even if not in use. And at 18 euros it does seem a bit expensive.
I would try to find a newer alternative like Anker or Zerolemon. Those seem to have a good reputation.

Pwnycorn said:
Batteries degrade even if not in use. And at 18 euros it does seem a bit expensive.
I would try to find a newer alternative like Anker or Zerolemon. Those seem to have a good reputation.
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Higher MaHs? I read somewhere theres one with 5000 mah but slim as Samsung battery

gorandroid said:
Higher MaHs? I read somewhere theres one with 5000 mah but slim as Samsung battery
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Nowhere did I say something about higher capacity.
Anker and Zerolemon should have standard slim batteries too. The highest you can go without changing the cover is 3000 I believe.

Anker are very good batteries

Pwnycorn said:
Nowhere did I say something about higher capacity.
Anker and Zerolemon should have standard slim batteries too. The highest you can go without changing the cover is 3000 I believe.
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I know you didnt say thats why i mentioned it. because those batteries are usually with higher capacities. Hope they are available in my Country ?

New 3880mAh battery only charging to about 3300 mAh on full charge

So I just replaced my original 3500 mAh battery with the 3880 one I got and according to accubattery it's barely charging it to full capacity?
I've done 3 full drain to 0 and charge to 100 cycles so far
The replacement battery
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WRRF4TF?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Anyone have any ideas what's up?

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So I just replaced my original 3500 mAh battery with the 3880 one I got and according to accubattery it's barely charging it to full capacity?
I've done 3 full drain to 0 and charge to 100 cycles so far
The replacement battery
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WRRF4TF?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Anyone have any ideas what's up?
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A lot of these aftermarket batteries are lies cheats and theif's. I got a 3300 for my s8 and it only hot 2980. And its supposed to be a good one. I have very rarely seen aftermarket better than oem unless its noticeably larger. Amazon Ebay all of them are guilty of selling sub par cheaply made batteries. And if I had to guess your is one too.

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A lot of these aftermarket batteries are lies cheats and theif's. I got a 3300 for my s8 and it only hot 2980. And its supposed to be a good one. I have very rarely seen aftermarket better than oem unless its noticeably larger. Amazon Ebay all of them are guilty of selling sub par cheaply made batteries. And if I had to guess your is one too.
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Siigh I knew I probably should of known better then to trust any dumb Amazon reviews. But I was also wondering if it has anything to do with the phone thinking it still has 3500 battery and limiting a full charge so it doesn't get overcharged?

confusedmime said:
Siigh I knew I probably should of known better then to trust any dumb Amazon reviews. But I was also wondering if it has anything to do with the phone thinking it still has 3500 battery and limiting a full charge so it doesn't get overcharged?
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Nah. It can detect the voltage too. It's hard to go by the reviews a lot I bet most reviews in the markets are some form of friends family or paid reviewers. Only problem is even suposed legit batteries are scams and or fakes. Half the time. I've had to replace my battery 3 times in the last year all from ifixit. this one now is only a month old and already showing me like 2900 or so mah. Its showing like a 95% health already.

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Nah. It can detect the voltage too. It's hard to go by the reviews a lot I bet most reviews in the markets are some form of friends family or paid reviewers. Only problem is even suposed legit batteries are scams and or fakes. Half the time. I've had to replace my battery 3 times in the last year all from ifixit. this one now is only a month old and already showing me like 2900 or so mah. Its showing like a 95% health already.
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Jeez that's crazy I had no idea there was such a battery racket. Guess I just ****ed the water resistance on my phone for nothing

confusedmime said:
Jeez that's crazy I had no idea there was such a battery racket. Guess I just ****ed the water resistance on my phone for nothing
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Ah if you needed a battery you needed a battery. That's another gimmick imo. My s8 has never been wet. I dont trust that crap either. I still keep mine in a life proof. ? there's great batteries out there dont get me wrong. It's just hard to find em. I try to get them from authorized service centers if I can.
My batteries where shot. My orig died out with only 4 to 5 hours off the charger 1 hour at most of screen on time. Even though mines not at capacity I'm still back to full day and about 5 hours of use again. I've had better. But my s8 is over 2 years old now.

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Ah if you needed a battery you needed a battery. That's another gimmick imo. My s8 has never been wet. I dont trust that crap either. I still keep mine in a life proof. there's great batteries out there dont get me wrong. It's just hard to find em. I try to get them from authorized service centers if I can.
My batteries where shot. My orig died out with only 4 to 5 hours off the charger 1 hour at most of screen on time. Even though mines not at capacity I'm still back to full day and about 5 hours of use again. I've had better. But my s8 is over 2 years old now.
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Yeah I'm getting about 8 to 12 hours now with pretty heavy use so I guess could be worse..