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'Bigger' (more powerful) battery?

hi, i was wondering if anyone is using, or has used an 'extended' 2400 mah battery-the normal battery is 1350 mah?
2400 mah mah batteries are common on ebay etc. so i was thinking of getting one but i have a few questions if anyone has used one...
-do they work?
-quality?
-battery life?
-any other problems?
thanks

aameerp said:
hi, i was wondering if anyone is using, or has used an 'extended' 2400 mah battery-the normal battery is 1350 mah?
2400 mah mah batteries are common on ebay etc. so i was thinking of getting one but i have a few questions if anyone has used one...
-do they work?
-quality?
-battery life?
-any other problems?
thanks
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I bought one quite soon after buying my TyTn.
To answer your questions (based on my experience):
- it worked out of the box, first time. Full charge from the mains.
- the quality was superb. As its a thicker battery, you get a new back piece.
- heres the rub: battery life was no better than with my normal battery. I discharged and re-charged about 4 times, but to no avail. I was bitterly disappointed with it, and now it just sits in my bag as a spare battery. I've not used it since.
- no other issues.
Hope this helps
Greg

GregE240 said:
- heres the rub: battery life was no better than with my normal battery. I discharged and re-charged about 4 times, but to no avail. I was bitterly disappointed with it, and now it just sits in my bag as a spare battery. I've not used it since.
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crap then!

i have a 2600 battery that i got from daydeal.
http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=15375&cat=2787
if you use directpush or stream audio or otherwise extensively use the dataconnection you will not get much better life out of the battery.
if you set your mail sync to 10 minutes or more and longer during off peak times then it will give a lot of battery life.
I was able to get 40+ hours out of my phone with a 2 hour charge in the middle.
mine increased the life of my phone but a large margin.
I could use it all day as an mp3 player and occasionally get mail.
The dataconnect sucks down the battery at an enourmous rate.

I got the Seidio 3200 mAh pack for mine and it has worked great. The only problem I have is the added thickness, but you can't add that much and put it in the same space. I leave the push mail on all day and I can go 2.5 days between charges. In fact I have yet to go below 50% batt. life.
my 2 cents worth

I bought this and it is GREAT and even BETTER PRICE. Seido was good but pricey when I was shopping.
http://cgi.ebay.com/EXTENDED-3000MA...ryZ15034QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I bought a 2800 a couple of months ago. It works great I never seen my battery drop below 50%. Also it came with a extra charger and a car charger.

What about a good replacement battery that doesnt require a larger back plate?

I just ordered the 1500 mAh pack from Seidio last night( can't get used to the 3200 mAh hump pack)and I will let you know which one works better. Depending on which one I like better, I'm going to sell the other on on the Bay .

I had an extended cheap battery from eBay. It worked for about 3 weeks then stopped working for some reason. Time to order an expensive but high quality piece.

cib911 said:
I just ordered the 1500 mAh pack from Seidio last night( can't get used to the 3200 mAh hump pack)and I will let you know which one works better. Depending on which one I like better, I'm going to sell the other on on the Bay .
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I read a review on the 1500 the reviewer said you won't see any difference.
Let us know how it works out for you.

cib911 said:
I just ordered the 1500 mAh pack from Seidio last night( can't get used to the 3200 mAh hump pack)and I will let you know which one works better. Depending on which one I like better, I'm going to sell the other on on the Bay .
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Howd it work out?
Selling? sold hah?

LOL @ the people buying batteries from ebay.......... THERE IS A REASON why they are cheap

randomtask16 said:
Howd it work out?
Selling? sold hah?
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My new 1500 works fantastic, now I can get through ~36 hours before it dies on average. My original battery was barely lasting 12 hours. but it was 9 months old.

With the inherent issues with Lithium Ion battery you really dont want to be putting any old PoS battery in there. Unless you have a spare Hermes for when your's melts or goes pop due to a bad/faulty/cheap battery.
I assume HTC sell official batteries?

Having Battery Problems???

The stock battery is 700mah, so if any of you are having battery problems I reccomend getting the 1400mah battery. It is the exact same size as the regular battery so it wil not make your device any bigger.
This is where I bought it (this EXACT item from this EXACT ebay seller)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=170225781410

uhh, my stock battery is 1500mah

I think I'm running Siedio's 1650 slim battery - gives me just enough juice to get through the day with slightly above average useage.

defaultdotxbe said:
uhh, my stock battery is 1500mah
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that means you didnt get a brand new one, but a refurb or used. they ship from the factory with 700mah's. someone probably owned it before you did, upgraded the battery and then resold it to you, telling you it was new. you cant have one with a 1400 or 1500mah battery unless its been preowned and manually upgraded.

My stock battery is also 1500mah.
My brother-in-law's is also 1500mah.
My boss's is also 1500mah.
Hmm, I'm seeing a pattern here. Verizon is selling refurbs as new!
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...t&action=viewPhoneDetail&selectedPhoneId=3411
Look under accessories:
Standard Li–Ion Battery (1500 mAh)

my battery is 7000 mha i placed two 3500mha batteries together by sodering wires to the second battery and also the first one and then pluging them into the phone. I phone now lasts two days on a charge. it does take 24 hours to charge them....

crobs808 said:
that means you didnt get a brand new one, but a refurb or used. they ship from the factory with 700mah's. someone probably owned it before you did, upgraded the battery and then resold it to you, telling you it was new. you cant have one with a 1400 or 1500mah battery unless its been preowned and manually upgraded.
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i bought mine new from sprint the first day they had them available, i had to order over the phone because none of the stores or the website had them, lol
methinks you got ripped off

nemasi said:
My stock battery is also 1500mah.
My brother-in-law's is also 1500mah.
My boss's is also 1500mah.
Hmm, I'm seeing a pattern here. Verizon is selling refurbs as new!
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...t&action=viewPhoneDetail&selectedPhoneId=3411
Look under accessories:
Standard Li–Ion Battery (1500 mAh)
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Mine is 1500mah "stock verizon bought new"

I bought mine new from verizon 1500 mAh, i think u got ripped off too....

Mine was a 1500 new from Verizon also. You might want to contact whoever sold you the phone and see about getting the stock 1500 battery.

crobs808 said:
that means you didnt get a brand new one, but a refurb or used. they ship from the factory with 700mah's. someone probably owned it before you did, upgraded the battery and then resold it to you, telling you it was new. you cant have one with a 1400 or 1500mah battery unless its been preowned and manually upgraded.
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Sounds like you may have this backwords

I also got a 1500 on my Verizon. I have upgraded to the 2100. I can make it a day an half with a few emails checking ever hour and frequent web surfing.

Just took a look at my mogul, it's 1500 mAh Model BTR6800.

My stock battery is 1500mAh as well.. just checked. I have a 3500mAh battery on order from Seidio.. hopefully it'll be here soon. I'm an extremely heavy user so my stock battery takes a pounding.

I have both an OEM 1500 and a non-OEM 2400 extended battery.

[Q] Has anyone tried this battery?

I'm not sure how good this is or if it is risky, but, has anyone tried this battery: http://www.amazon.com/4500mAh-Recha...id=1420477340&sr=8-12&keywords=note+4+battery It is rated at 4500mAh.

sherpa said:
I'm not sure how good this is or if it is risky, but, has anyone tried this battery: http://www.amazon.com/4500mAh-Recha...id=1420477340&sr=8-12&keywords=note+4+battery It is rated at 4500mAh.
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A guy on youtube reviewed it, it doesnt fit right. Mind you his title says 4200 mah and the description says 4500 mah. If you look at the one I ordered below it shows that 4200mah would fit like his does.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHQoOLVSyxI
I ordered this one because the description shows the size differences. For my model the 4500mah replaces my stock 3220mah.
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/321596587777?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
Also with these batteries you will most likely lose nfc as they do not mention if they contain the nfc antenna or not.

do you have a samsung oem QI/NFC cover ? seems like if the battery fits then the stock OEM QI cover would give you NFC even with this battery, no ?

sherpa said:
I'm not sure how good this is or if it is risky, but, has anyone tried this battery: http://www.amazon.com/4500mAh-Recha...id=1420477340&sr=8-12&keywords=note+4+battery It is rated at 4500mAh.
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Dude just dont buy it, rubish from china. Do you really think they can make a 4500 mah batter with the same size as the original samsung one which is 3220 and sell it for so little money? Chinese batteries are the worst in the world. They even sell their rubish phones with 1 extra battery because they know the first one is gonna die so fast.
Now, from my experience: I once bought a 6800 chinese garbage power bank battery, because it was cheap and I wanted to try it. Guess what, it could only charge my 1650 mah galaxy s2 once before getting depleted. A friend of mine tried a battery similar to the one you linked for his galaxy s4. It was 3500 mah (original is 2600 mah), it achieved a maximum (MAXIMUM) Screen On time of 2 hours. Not to mention that they are dangerous because they might explode (not kidding, I know a case) and that rubbish effective capacity they have is gonna get even worse so quickly.

I've never understand why people risk destroying their expensive new phone by sticking in some cheap ass 'high capacity' battery from China that could well explode while charging, google exploding lithium batteries, it's not pretty. That people think you can fit extra mah into the same size as the OEM battery baffles me, if it was possible to do this do you not think Samsung would have done it themselves.......

exclass said:
Not to mention that they are dangerous because they might explode (not kidding, I know a case) and that rubbish effective capacity they have is gonna get even worse so quickly.
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Yeah, that's one thing I am concerned about and that's why I asked to see if anyone had used it.
Joey2o11 said:
I've never understand why people risk destroying their expensive new phone by sticking in some cheap ass 'high capacity' battery from China that could well explode while charging, google exploding lithium batteries, it's not pretty. That people think you can fit extra mah into the same size as the OEM battery baffles me, if it was possible to do this do you not think Samsung would have done it themselves.......
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I understand and that's why I posted this question to see whether people have already used it or not.

Oneplus replacement parts availability for the next 5 years (battery, screen)

Hey xda,
I'm that kind of person who likes to keep his phones for 4-5 years.
To this day I'm still rocking my galaxy s4, many parts are available.
The oneplus 5 looks like a good phone to last at least 5 years, but as everyone knows, batteries fail, in my experience after about 2-2.5 years.
If I look for OPO batteries now, there only seem to be A: original OP batteries which have been laying in some warehouse for 4 years (bad for the battery) And B: third party batteries from questionable manufracturers (having bad reviews).
So my questions are:
What's your experience with oneplus 1/x/2/3 replacement parts (especially batteries) ?
Do you think it will be better with the oneplus 5 ?
(Should we push compagnies like RAVpower and anker to start producing op5 batteries? )
Thanks in advance,
nxss4

The oneplus 5 battery doesn't get hot when charged so theoretically it should last longer

Pro4TLZZ said:
The oneplus 5 battery doesn't get hot when charged so theoretically it should last longer
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Might be, but it also charges at a greater amperage. And eventually, it will fail..

It's probably too soon to see Op5 batteries on the market since the phone has only been out in Spring. And I think the OnePlus 3/3T was the first OnePlus phone that broke out of the niche market --and that phone is only a little over a year old so demand for new batteries probably isn't there yet. I would expect better choices becoming available for both phones since the OnePlus phones are becoming more popular. It seems possible this phone could last 5 years. I previously had Google phones and getting much more than 2 years out of those was like winning the lottery.

The phone may last, the battery not.
Batteries lose some of their capacity after a certain number of charge cycles, regardless what you do.
After a year or so, your battery will have about 80% of its capacity left. That's about 2400mAh after one year. By the second year you should be thinking about replacing it.

I think batteries in the past few years have gotten better. My one friend used his 2010 HTC desire for over 3 years before the original battery started to get weak (had like 70 percent of its original charge). His next phone I gave him was an HTC one s. The battery was still fine after 4 years when the amoled screen started to fail. Now he's using the 2013 moto x and the battery is still lasting 2 days like when I have it to him a couple years ago.
My galaxy s6 battery was still fine when I traded it in a few weeks ago. I've actually had quite a few older phones that didn't have any battery issues. The only ones I can remember having to replace the battery was a galaxy s3 I bought used and an HTC desire HD from 2011.
That said I'm sure we'll be able to get a battery because I do plan to keep this phone long enough to need a battery replacement. I'm guessing 4 years I will have to replace it.

With battery replacement costing $100+ you are probably better off buying a prior year midrange model than hauling around a clunker with severely outdated software for 5 years. For example, nowadays it is possible to purchase a Moto G5+ for around $220 NIB (there was a recent newegg deal).

Thank you so much for all the input guys!!!

GroovyGeek said:
With battery replacement costing $100+ you are probably better off buying a prior year midrange model than hauling around a clunker with severely outdated software for 5 years. For example, nowadays it is possible to purchase a Moto G5+ for around $220 NIB (there was a recent newegg deal).
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My 5 years old galaxy s4 runs 7.1. Oneplus 5's developper community is even better so it'll stay up to date for a long time.

nxss4 said:
My 5 years old galaxy s4 runs 7.1. Oneplus 5's developper community is even better so it'll stay up to date for a long time.
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5 yr old screen tech
5 yr old battery consumption and processor speed
5 yr old other tech (fingerprint readers, camera, GPS, magnetometer, light sensor)
vs
nearly lastest for all of the above for $100 more. Note that unlike your S4 the OP5 is a sealed battery so unless you have the right tools you cannot change the battery yourself.
Yo money yo choices

I can change the battery myself. I've had a few phones apart before. Its not that difficult. The cost of a battery will probably be like $20. The tech has gotten to the point where it's not improving nearly as fast. People will be using 5 year old phones 5 years from now. They cost double what they did 5 years ago for a flagship.

GroovyGeek said:
5 yr old screen tech
5 yr old battery consumption and processor speed
5 yr old other tech (fingerprint readers, camera, GPS, magnetometer, light sensor)
vs
nearly lastest for all of the above for $100 more. Note that unlike your S4 the OP5 is a sealed battery so unless you have the right tools you cannot change the battery yourself.
Yo money yo choices
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I don't know, I think the oneplus 5 is an amazing future proof devices, in 5 years galaxies will probably not have 8gigs of ram,
I don't play games so the 835 should be more than enough, fingerprint reader will still be one of the fastest (it's already kinda instantaneous) and 1080p works just fine for me
The reason I'm not going for a budget phone anymore is that've had bad experiences with budget devices in the past:
- The nexus 7 was unusable after only 2 years, freaking slow.
- The moto g2 is the slowest device I've ever used, I think it has some memory problems, it's slow on any custom rom I've flashed on it.
In addition to that budget devices just give a worse experience overall
Don't worry for the battery, repairing electronics is my hobby

Pwnycorn said:
The phone may last, the battery not.
Batteries lose some of their capacity after a certain number of charge cycles, regardless what you do.
After a year or so, your battery will have about 80% of its capacity left. That's about 2400mAh after one year. By the second year you should be thinking about replacing it.
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That is an untrue statement. There is no set amount of time to determine lots of capacity. Look up BatteryUniversity.com and look for lithium battery page on charge cycles.
In short, never let your battery deplete completely. The depth of discharge (DoD) directly impacts loss of battery capacity. Your battery charge cycles is when your charge from more then 80% or less to full 100%. So for example... If you wait to charge your phone when it's under 25%, you will get roughly 250-350 charge cycles before significant lots of capacity. The rest goes like this... Charge at 25-50%, you'll get roughly 350-500 cycles and 50-75% 500-700 cycles and from 75%+ upwards of 1000 charge cycles.
My Nexus 6P was 18 months old and still had a capacity of 3100mah of 3400 (88%). So if you know what you're doing and take care of your battery, it can last much longer then expected expected.

Eric214 said:
That is an untrue statement. There is no set amount of time to determine lots of capacity. Look up BatteryUniversity.com and look for lithium battery page on charge cycles.
In short, never let your battery deplete completely. The depth of discharge (DoD) directly impacts loss of battery capacity. Your battery charge cycles is when your charge from more then 80% or less to full 100%. So for example... If you wait to charge your phone when it's under 25%, you will get roughly 250-350 charge cycles before significant lots of capacity. The rest goes like this... Charge at 25-50%, you'll get roughly 350-500 cycles and 50-75% 500-700 cycles and from 75%+ upwards of 1000 charge cycles.
My Nexus 6P was 18 months old and still had a capacity of 3100mah of 3400 (88%). So if you know what you're doing and take care of your battery, it can last much longer then expected expected.
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How is my statement untrue? You just confirmed what I said.
No matter what you do, the battery will lose capacity. You can lower the amount of the capacity loss, but you can't prevent it fully.
And most people don't charge their phones until around the 30% range. According to you, that's about 250-350 charge cycles. And if you charge once a day, that's roughly a year.
So my estimate of the battery having roughly 20% less capacity after approximately a year was correct.
Not to mention the other factors that aid in the capacity loss (overcharging and heat).
Trust me, the average user doesn't take care of their batteries. I observed this at my friends and acquaintances. They always use their phones until it gets very low and then charge it.

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How is my statement untrue? You just confirmed what I said.
No matter what you do, the battery will lose capacity. You can lower the amount of the capacity loss, but you can't prevent it fully.
And most people don't charge their phones until around the 30% range. According to you, that's about 250-350 charge cycles. And if you charge once a day, that's roughly a year.
So my estimate of the battery having roughly 20% less capacity after approximately a year was correct.
Not to mention the other factors that aid in the capacity loss (overcharging and heat).
Trust me, the average user doesn't take care of their batteries. I observed this at my friends and acquaintances. They always use their phones until it gets very low and then charge it.
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I'm not staying they don't lose capacity, but why I said untrue is that you said batteries have a certain amount of charge cycles, and that will vary if you take care of your battery, and that after 1 year you will only have 80% of the capacity, and again, untrue. I was at 18 months and still at 88%.
I'm just saying is that is not set in stone and if people educate themselves on hour to take care of a battery it will last longer.

I'm also aware of this and charge my battery before it gets below 35 sometimes before 50. This is probably why so many phones I've had lasted well over 3 years on the original batteries.

Brand new S8 battery degrading.

So I got a brand new S8+ approximately a week ago. The battery has barely had 10 charging cycles and according to the fg_fullcapnom file my battery is already at 3244 mAh. And what's worse is that it's degrading with every charge cycle. If you're gonna tell me that it's due to fast charging then why does Samsung include one in the box if it's not suitable for your device. I intend to keep this phone a long time and if in the first week the battery has gone down so much then I can't imagine what it's gonna be at the end of the year. Any suggestions anyone can give me? Should I use a different charging brick? Like the original Apple iPad charger or a smaller/lower output charger. Or should I take my phone back to Samsung since I got it with one year warranty. But then again what do I explain to them, they probably don't even know what the fgfullcapnom file is.

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So I got a brand new S8+ approximately a week ago. The battery has barely had 10 charging cycles and according to the fg_fullcapnom file my battery is already at 3244 mAh. And what's worse is that it's degrading with every charge cycle. If you're gonna tell me that it's due to fast charging then why does Samsung include one in the box if it's not suitable for your device. I intend to keep this phone a long time and if in the first week the battery has gone down so much then I can't imagine what it's gonna be at the end of the year. Any suggestions anyone can give me? Should I use a different charging brick? Like the original Apple iPad charger or a smaller/lower output charger. Or should I take my phone back to Samsung since I got it with one year warranty. But then again what do I explain to them, they probably don't even know what the fgfullcapnom file is.
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Return it if that is correct. Should drop at max 15% capacity in a full year

ThaRealSaad said:
So I got a brand new S8+ approximately a week ago. The battery has barely had 10 charging cycles and according to the fg_fullcapnom file my battery is already at 3244 mAh.
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I'm betting that fullcapawapanom isn't very accurate. Enjoy your phone and stop worrying what some file says, if you get 5+ hours of sot you're good.