Help will update - Verizon Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello I have a rooted s5 still running 4.4.2 and still need the ne9 update and the OTA update always fails. I have finally realized I want to update so when lollipop is out I can get it. What is the most simple way to update? I do not mind losing root but would really prefer not losing any of my data. However, if the easiest way to update loses my data I do not mind. Thanks alot!

As long as you're rooted the update will fail. If you want completely stock and updated to NK2(the latest update), go to thus thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784880
Once there go down to where it says nk2 files and download the first one. It'll be the full tar. From there just follow the install directions. It will take away root, safestrap, and your data, but you'll be 100% stock with the latest update, so that when the next one drops you can take it. I think you'll be better off just downloading a rooted version of nk2, flashing the nk2 firmware, then sitting tight until lollipop drops and the devs release a rooted version of it. I think that's how most people are going.
You can also use this method to go to whichever firmware version you want to run with the corresponding rom to match.
ZhuuhZ said:
Hello I have a rooted s5 still running 4.4.2 and still need the ne9 update and the OTA update always fails. I have finally realized I want to update so when lollipop is out I can get it. What is the most simple way to update? I do not mind losing root but would really prefer not losing any of my data. However, if the easiest way to update loses my data I do not mind. Thanks alot!
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4.3 update

Newbie here. I rooted the S4 a couple of months ago. Now that 4.3 is out, can experts post some step-by-step guide on how to upgrade it on rooted devices? Thanks.
Are you sure you want to update? Why not just flash a 4.3.1 rom to your device instead and stock to AMDL firmware.
However if it hasn't manually updated to MF3 you can go into your settings and search for updates, or it should automatically update on it's own. The only thing that would prevent it would be if you've flashed a non TW based ROM, changed the framework + kernel, or froze there processes needed to update. Just a stand alone root won't prevent it.
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I am not on MF3. I tried to install the AT&T minor update before, but it failed twice. I did freeze some stock apps. If I unfreeze those apps, the automatic update should work then? That's very good to know. Thanks!
Br4nd3n said:
Are you sure you want to update? Why not just flash a 4.3.1 rom to your device instead and stock to AMDL firmware.
However if it hasn't manually updated to MF3 you can go into your settings and search for updates, or it should automatically update on it's own. The only thing that would prevent it would be if you've flashed a non TW based ROM, changed the framework + kernel, or froze there processes needed to update. Just a stand alone root won't prevent it.
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Just to be clear you never got/took the OTA update to mf3?
If you still have the mdl bootloader then you will be able to update to a new rom that is based off the new att firmware MJ6 soon. I would wait until a good rom is out to flash rather than getting any OTA update. Once you go to mf3 firmware you cannot go back to a previous firmware and you are limited on what can be flashed to your phone. If you take the new OTA (whenever att actually releases it) you will be stuck on that firmware and not able to go back to a previous firmware.
So like in my situation I have the mdb or mdl bootloader still, rooted, and I can flash any rom I want whether it is a mdl/mf3/ international firmware/ or when available the MJ6 firmware. All of this is harder/not able to do if you ever get OTA updates.
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I never got the MF3 update. As I mentioned, I did try it twice, but the update failed, either because I froze some apps, or because I installed the CWM custom recovery. It's good to hear that it is actually a good thing. I noticed that the 4.3 firmware is out (the general forum), should I just install that one? How should I start? Thanks.
RockRatt said:
Just to be clear you never got/took the OTA update to mf3?
If you still have the mdl bootloader then you will be able to update to a new rom that is based off the new att firmware MJ6 soon. I would wait until a good rom is out to flash rather than getting any OTA update. Once you go to mf3 firmware you cannot go back to a previous firmware and you are limited on what can be flashed to your phone. If you take the new OTA (whenever att actually releases it) you will be stuck on that firmware and not able to go back to a previous firmware.
So like in my situation I have the mdb or mdl bootloader still, rooted, and I can flash any rom I want whether it is a mdl/mf3/ international firmware/ or when available the MJ6 firmware. All of this is harder/not able to do if you ever get OTA updates.
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wxiao said:
I never got the MF3 update. As I mentioned, I did try it twice, but the update failed, either because I froze some apps, or because I installed the CWM custom recovery. It's good to hear that it is actually a good thing. I noticed that the 4.3 firmware is out (the general forum), should I just install that one? How should I start? Thanks.
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What until one of the devs creates a flashable zip that you can flash in cwm. It'll probably be only a couple of days now that the leak is out.

AT&T unable to update software

Currently I am on MK2, with root access (stock ATT) I got a notification for software update is available, but when I try to install, it fails in between. Is it because of root access? Please suggest.
Not to be rude, but if you read a little bit of the threads you'd find that you CANNOT install an OTA update while you're rooted!
You have to un-root your phone if you want to install any OTA updates.
atrix4nag said:
Currently I am on MK2, with root access (stock ATT) I got a notification for software update is available, but when I try to install, it fails in between. Is it because of root access? Please suggest.
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Best way to prepare for official OTA is just Odin back to stock, then just accept the update, 2 step process easy as pie. Tar files are here on XDA, but your search button seems to be broken so let me help you.
Here you go. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2621279 Good luck.
crazy_dragonlady said:
Not to be rude, but if you read a little bit of the threads you'd find that you CANNOT install an OTA update while you're rooted!
You have to un-root your phone if you want to install any OTA updates.
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John The Rhino said:
Best way to prepare for official OTA is just Odin back to stock, then just accept the update, 2 step process easy as pie. Tar files are here on XDA, but your search button seems to be broken so let me help you.
Here you go. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2621279 Good luck.
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Thanks for your response. I kept the ODIN back to stock as last option. Just want to make sure that, that is the way to do it. I just dont want to go back to stock, if there is an another option.
atrix4nag said:
Thanks for your response. I kept the ODIN back to stock as last option. Just want to make sure that, that is the way to do it. I just dont want to go back to stock, if there is an another option.
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Sorry buddy, but there is no other way. If you want to update to official stock 4.4.2 Kit Kat firmware, you must be on official stock firmware. If you'd rather not be stock, then stay on MK2 like many of us are doing until we have root. I imagine it will be in the not too distant future. Look at the progress these developers have made in just a few days. It's remarkable.
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Sorry buddy, but there is no other way. If you want to update to official stock 4.4.2 Kit Kat firmware, you must be on official stock firmware. If you'd rather not be stock, then stay on MK2 like many of us are doing until we have root. I imagine it will be in the not too distant future. Look at the progress these developers have made in just a few days. It's remarkable.
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Thanks for the response. i went back to stock and updated to 4.4,
atrix4nag said:
Thanks for the response. i went back to stock and updated to 4.4,
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You're welcome.. Glad everything worked out for you to be able to update.

Update using ota or keep root (noob)

Greetings! Im new to the rooting scene and i have a rooted note 3 on 4.3. I would like to know if it is better to install the ota update then root again or just flash a new rom that is kitkat already.
Thanks in advance.
beefy314 said:
Greetings! Im new to the rooting scene and i have a rooted note 3 on 4.3. I would like to know if it is better to install the ota update then root again or just flash a new rom that is kitkat already.
Thanks in advance.
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You cannot OTA update since you have rooted. You can only download stock firmware and flash via Odin. And yes, you have to root again, also via Odin.
A new (custom) rom is another option, I have no idea with it.
For the time being, I would browse the Note 3 Android Development forum and see if a custom ROM is what you want. If it is, then by all means go ahead and flash one. If not, then upgrading to 4.4.2 and rooting is the best bet. Personally, I was on stock 4.4.2 rooted, and it didn't take long for me to flash a custom ROM. I'm on my third custom ROM in a month, so it can definitely get addicting.
You can update via OTA.
Thereafter, flash the old kernel xxund3.
root via towel root, and reflash the Kernel that came with the OTA update.
All via Odin. I don't think there's any way to do it, yet, and at the same time keeping knox 0x0.
link is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/general/root-root-xxufnf4-stock-firmware-knox-t2840150
Cheers!

Root new out of the box NK2 updated galaxy s5?

I'm trying to help a family member root their new phone. The most up to date guide I've found here is for the previous update (NI2) and I haven't seen anything for the Verizon NK2 version. Is it still possible to root this version? If so do you know where I can find out how?
worf65 said:
I'm trying to help a family member root their new phone. The most up to date guide I've found here is for the previous update (NI2) and I haven't seen anything for the Verizon NK2 version. Is it still possible to root this version? If so do you know where I can find out how?
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It's the same thing, doesn't matter what the starting version is. You still have to downgrade to NGC
ldeveraux said:
It's the same thing, doesn't matter what the starting version is. You still have to downgrade to NGC
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So just downgrade the kernal to NCG, root, then update the kernal using Odin? Skipping the step about flashing the OTA since its already updated?
worf65 said:
So just downgrade the kernal to NCG, root, then update the kernal using Odin? Skipping the step about flashing the OTA since its already updated?
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No not at all. Just go read the thread it's sticked at the top, or at least it should be
worf65 said:
So just downgrade the kernal to NCG, root, then update the kernal using Odin? Skipping the step about flashing the OTA since its already updated?
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I believe that flashing the kernel would work but you would have to work your way through a lot of FC's. I normally flash a full tar but you having a brand new phone, this probably isn't necessary but it is what I normally do ( below is the tar file I use. It is a complete internal wipe to a like new phone on NGC). Root with towelroot, download SuperSU from play store, update the binaries and reboot. I would suggest safestrap. You would need to download from play store then install busybox first. Then install safestrap and install its recovery.
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23610159112652178
Tulsadiver said:
I believe that flashing the kernel would work but you would have to work your way through a lot of FC's. I normally flash a full tar but you having a brand new phone, this probably isn't necessary but it is what I normally do ( below is the tar file I use. It is a complete internal wipe to a like new phone on NGC). Root with towelroot, download SuperSU from play store, update the binaries and reboot. I would suggest safestrap. You would need to download from play store then install busybox first. Then install safestrap and install its recovery.
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23610159112652178
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I'm pretty familiar with how rooting the S5 works before updates as that is how I did mine (froze the updater and didn't have time to figure out how to safely update). What I am confused about is what I do when coming from a later software version, the guide is even called "Safely Upgrade and Root..." not how to downgrade and root, and the guide to update to lollipop seems to require already being rooted.
worf65 said:
I'm pretty familiar with how rooting the S5 works before updatesj as that is how I did mine (froze the updater and didn't have time to figure out how to safely update). What I am confused about is what I do when coming from a later software version, the guide is even called "Safely Upgrade and Root..." not how to downgrade and root, and the guide to update to lollipop seems to require already being rooted.
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I told you how to root, downgrade, root, then upgrade. Plus, you need to read down a little further. See notes #4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...w-to-update-to-g900voc4-5-0-keeproot-t3068546
Tulsadiver said:
I told you how to root, downgrade, root, then upgrade. Plus, you need to read down a little further. See notes #4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...w-to-update-to-g900voc4-5-0-keeproot-t3068546
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Ok, I had found that guide before getting this new phone for my phone but didn't look at it again since I remembered that it had to be rooted already and was assuming I had to root on an earlier version hence the confusion.
Its understandable why people without root don't read it or at least don't read on down.

S5 root with marshmallow

What's going to happen to my SM-G900I thats got root (running stock) when it receives the marshmallow update. Sorry for the simple question. Thanks
marshmallow update
Hey there! your root will probably be lost if you accept the OTA (over the air) marshmallow. My best advice to you is this:
1. DON'T accept the update. (caps lock for emphasis only). You, as the subscriber, can only accept the update. The carrier can't "force update' your phone without your permission.
2. wait until a dev "captures" the update and "injects" the root (if available) in the marshmallow stock rom.
3. as a rooted user myself, exercise your due patience and wait it out. don't *ask* for ETA from a dev -- it's mean. =)
I hope this helps. =)
You won't get OTA updates if you're rooted, you'll have to update manually then root again
sameog said:
Hey there! your root will probably be lost if you accept the OTA (over the air) marshmallow. My best advice to you is this:
1. DON'T accept the update. (caps lock for emphasis only). You, as the subscriber, can only accept the update. The carrier can't "force update' your phone without your permission.
2. wait until a dev "captures" the update and "injects" the root (if available) in the marshmallow stock rom.
3. as a rooted user myself, exercise your due patience and wait it out. don't *ask* for ETA from a dev -- it's mean. =)
I hope this helps. =)
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Okay thanks so pretty much wait until someone figures out how to root mm then update and root?
*Detection* said:
You won't get OTA updates if you're rooted, you'll have to update manually then root again
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So I will have to do a full unroot to get the update normally, and would manually updating just be flashing the stock mm rom?
devondale16 said:
So I will have to do a full unroot to get the update normally, and would manually updating just be flashing the stock mm rom?
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Full unroot doesn't seem to revert the device "Custom" status, which is what stops the OTA, to "Official" which is the status needed for OTA
The only way to return the device to Official is to flash a stock ROM with ODIN, that will unroot you and return the device to Official and OTA will work
And yes, Flashing manually is flashing a stock ROM with ODIN
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Full unroot doesn't seem to revert the device "Custom" status, which is what stops the OTA, to "Official" which is the status needed for OTA
The only way to return the device to Official is to flash a stock ROM with ODIN, that will unroot you and return the device to Official and OTA will work
And yes, Flashing manually is flashing a stock ROM with ODIN
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Ohhh I understand now, thanks Durham. So I take it when I flash the new one with ODIN I will loose everything on my phone or can I do a dirty install and keep everything.
devondale16 said:
Ohhh I understand now, thanks Durham. So I take it when I flash the new one with ODIN I will loose everything on my phone or can I do a dirty install and keep everything.
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You only lose anything custom, like root or recovery, all your apps and files etc are safe
*Detection* said:
You only lose anything custom, like root or recovery, all your apps and files etc are safe
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Do you have a link for this if it's been made?
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devondale16 said:
Do you have a link for this if it's been made?
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For what? Stock MM?
This one is modded for BTU United Kingdom for the G900F, been running it for a while now, great ROM
It will trip KNOX though if you haven't already
Code:
https://mega.nz/#!SMRlERrY!oeOX8W_4tbQbArTN-LzTKWJ1xi_8LLrN_ZoSg-Dzs1Q

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