Pros & Cons: Rooting GS5 AOSP - Sprint Galaxy S 5 General

I'm trying to build a complete objective list of the things you will gain/lose when rooting and installing an AOSP rom. If you can think of any more to add, post away, I'll update the list.
Pros & Cons: Rooting GS5
Cons:
*The loss of
-Knox warranty
-S Health
-Camera App Functions
-Fingerprint Scanner
-One Handed Mode
-Heartrate Monitor
-Motions and Gestures
-Infrared
*AOSP tends to be buggier than TW
Pros:
*Unlock Wifi Tether
*Remove bloat
*No childish UI [this is an objective fact]
*Root apps, etc

I thought you could download a 3rd party infrared app (unless you meant native). BTW what are the camera app functions you were talking about specifically? *Also, in its early stages, AOSP tends to have more bugs than a TW ROM.
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Childish UI?

JoeFCaputo113 said:
Childish UI?
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Does garbage like this not infuriate you?
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Does garbage like this not infuriate you?
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No bc I am not a child so icons don't make me "infuriated". Plus it's an opinion. That right there just discredits this thread... Smh.

JoeFCaputo113 said:
No bc I am not a child so icons don't make me "infuriated". Plus it's an opinion. That right there just discredits this thread... Smh.
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blksith0 said:
I'm trying to build a complete objective list of the things you will gain/lose when rooting and installing an AOSP rom. If you can think of any more to add, post away, I'll update the list.
Pros & Cons: Rooting GS5
Cons:
*The loss of
-Knox warranty
-S Health
-Camera App Functions
-Fingerprint Scanner
-One Handed Mode
-Heartrate Monitor
-Motions and Gestures
-Infrared
*AOSP tends to be buggier than TW
Pros:
*Unlock Wifi Tether
*Remove bloat
*No childish UI
*Root apps, etc
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I'm assuming you really want AOSP, but every one of you're pro's and con's are disproved with a good TW rom.

Ramer said:
I'm assuming you really want AOSP, but every one of you're pro's and con's are disproved with a good TW rom.
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Even the bloatware removal and wifi-tether unlocking?

blksith0 said:
Even the bloatware removal and wifi-tether unlocking?
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Yes

Ramer said:
Yes
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So with a TW ROM, you can't unlock wifi tethering or remove their bloatware?

blksith0 said:
So with a TW ROM, you can't unlock wifi tethering or remove their bloatware?
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The opposite, it depends on the rom, but MOAR is both debloated and wifi tethering works, as well as a ton of other features and mods. If you want to read up on it, check out these two threads:
[ROM][MOAR][NE5] v2.2 / The Next Level / Wicked Sick / Endless Customization[11.9.14]
[Q&A][FAQ][UG][MOAR][NE5] FAQ, Q&A and User Guide for MOAR 2.2

blksith0 said:
So with a TW ROM, you can't unlock wifi tethering or remove their bloatware?
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Yes, you can. Confirmed I have a stock rooted system with hotspot and removing of apps.
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Google fit works great
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rukin1 said:
Google fit works great
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I'll bet it requires a Google Plus account right?

blksith0 said:
I'll bet it requires a Google Plus account right?
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Nope

I like going AOSP for many reasons, 250MB roms vs 1.5GB roms., smoother transitions, even more customization (I use the home button to access quicksettings), quiet hours for class, consistent and quick update to latest version of android. There are lots of reasons to love AOSP.
I do miss the stability of touchwiz, plus camera features like slo-mo and 4k, but often they just have way too much bloat where it is often not worth the desired features.

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<<<<THE V6 SUPERCharger! The ONLY Android MEMORY FIXER!>>>>

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What's it do?
It makes your phone FAST... super snappy with better multitasking!
It rearranges and fixes the OOM Groupings and Priorites and lowmemorykiller values.
So basically, it's a COMPLETE MEMORY MANAGEMENT FIX!
It's the ONLY one of it's kind
Original thread Link: The V6 SuperCharger
and
Link for a visual guide
Yeah you're right this tweak works great for me, I have about 40 more mb of RAM all the time and everything feels like its preloaded
This look great... I hope someone can make this as a software for easy application...
Hurro Avetny, do you find the i9100 running low on RAM a lot? Seems to not offer a lot above memory functions, think theres much mileage in this for SGS2 vs under (memory) equipped units like SGS1?
Interesting find, looking forward to some solid feedback
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Hurro Avetny, do you find the i9100 running low on RAM a lot? Seems to not offer a lot above memory functions, think theres much mileage in this for SGS2 vs under (memory) equipped units like SGS1?
Interesting find, looking forward to some solid feedback
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remember: "it's never bad, to have more RAM"
WHy is it that CM does not incorporate this into their roms ?
yup, an CWM version will be nice
I will give it a go tomorrow, very sleepy....
thanks for sharing
Love.
but is there a way to integrate it into a ROM.
Like as a Package!
need to find a Way!
EDIT 1: yup figured Out how to, will be there pre installed in my ROM. yupee!
EDIT 2: Custom ROMs will now get the /data/userinit.sh and /data/99SuperCharger.sh files.
Just change the variable (rcpath=) on line 116 to the path of your *rc file!
That's it and you can Cook it into your ROM's.
Hope it helps all you ROM Devs.
sounds great .. testing
Hmm, sounds great indeed, will try when i get home from work. Thanks for letting us know about this script
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avetny said:
remember: "it's never bad, to have more RAM"
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Not sure I agree with that. Retaining data in memory will result in better performance than unloading and reloading the same data back in again from relatively slow storage.
Trying the SuperCharger script using the "Multitasking" preset. I don't want my apps terminated just to get free RAM, then having to reload the same apps again.
Not sure if this will result in any actual performance improvements on a SGSII, given that they're already so fast, but if it can prevent Launcher screen reloads, then I'll be happy.
lindsaytheflint said:
Not sure I agree with that. Retaining data in memory will result in better performance than unloading and reloading the same data back in again from relatively slow storage.
Trying the SuperCharger script using the "Multitasking" preset. I don't want my apps terminated just to get free RAM, then having to reload the same apps again.
Not sure if this will result in any actual performance improvements on a SGSII, given that they're already so fast, but if it can prevent Launcher screen reloads, then I'll be happy.
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Agree with this. The phone has already huge RAM. Don't see the point of putting a RAM/memory tweak. I dunno about other scripts though
lindsaytheflint said:
Not sure I agree with that. Retaining data in memory will result in better performance than unloading and reloading the same data back in again from relatively slow storage.
Trying the SuperCharger script using the "Multitasking" preset. I don't want my apps terminated just to get free RAM, then having to reload the same apps again.
Not sure if this will result in any actual performance improvements on a SGSII, given that they're already so fast, but if it can prevent Launcher screen reloads, then I'll be happy.
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makes sense and wont it use more battery if it reloads the same app quite often ??
xinfinityoO said:
makes sense and wont it use more battery if it reloads the same app quite often ??
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Yeah, much like using an ATK.
Can V use this with GS1 (i9000)?
likitrt said:
Can V use this with GS1 (i9000)?
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Yes. The original thread says
It works on ALL Android devices - Custom Roms or Stock Roms, Phones or Tablets, it doesn't matter!
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works great on my sgs2 with option 9 enabled . very great stuff !! thanks !
I respect your efforts and I'm not trying to sound so negative, but as other folk have said... we don't really need a RAM fix for this device. I've never encountered a slow moment once and continue to love this phone without any "speed" improvements other than the custom rom I have installed.
In the words of Ali G though, restectpa for your efforts haha.
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avetny said:
remember: "it's never bad, to have more RAM"
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android never runs out of ram

XXLPB General Help + First Impressons

BEFORE ASKING FOR HELP, PLEASE USE SEARCH
First see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1463665 (LP6 first impressions thanks to ithehappy)
And also http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1477672 (LPB first impressions thanks to ithehappy)
And also http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420996 (General info thanks to Faryaab)
Just installed through Mobile Odin:
Good:
NO FCs YET!
Wifi data indicators back!
Network mode setting back!
3D effect in launcher!
FM Working again!
XILA2 overscroll glow, more subtle.
Deep sleep works. It always has! Stop asking!
GPS works in maps app and GPS test apps!
Extremely fast GPS lock, even indoors! Extremely unreal of Samsung devices
Quite stable.
Private browsing.
Market works perfectly.
Faceunlock works. *sigh*
USB mode works!
USB host working apparently!
Vibration works well.
Data stats shows individual apps!
Data indicator working!
Helvetica S replaced by Helvetica Neue (used on retina display iPhones).
Bad:
Google widgets still can't be resized.
You have to manually set APN sometimes.
Market FCs when you try to use voice search.
MHL not working.
Ugly:
New samsung animations, similar to GB.
Google Apps logos in notifications bar look distorted and ugly.
Task switching looks weird. See below in screenshots.
Mirrors for those asking:
http://samsung-updates.com/download/?id=270 ~thanks Grooby
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Should you use this as a daily ROM? I think yes. This is the most mature ICS rom Samsung has released, with 97% of things working. There will be people who don't like TWlauncher, but it's just a matter of haters gonna' hate. Besides, there will probably be a lot more people complaining if things were drasticaly changed.
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USB host working?
Nope, still have to use MTP
What do you mean by "New samsung animations, similar to GB."??
App opening animations. You know, like the ones ported from ICS to GB
In previous alpha builds the gallery would freeze up on me viewing pics and videos. Do you see any lagging or have any weird force closes yet?
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What's horizontal swiping like?
The LPB kernel on CM9 works great, with the exception of a much longer swipe being required to go from screen to screen.
Edit: should add the GPS module works as it should on LPB as well.
Thanks a lot for saving my work. Please update it with more points, it will help us all.
No, gallery very smooth. And I have lots of pics.
Does phone enter deep sleep?
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Lol, Ill keep it updated but ill have to sleep in few hours as Im in UK.
porkchopbolt said:
Does phone enter deep sleep?
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Yes, it always has.
Deep sleep ok?
GPS working?
Is this better/more stable then CM9?
xethor said:
Lol, Ill keep it updated but ill have to sleep in few hours as Im in UK.
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Nice.
I might do it as well then.
It's 01:40 here however
Nah, i don't think you need to. I'll be up for a while.
samsung hitting back at the TW critics with the new transition effect, god it looks gorgeous! Not using treb launcher on this build
drelite08 said:
samsung hitting back at the TW critics with the new transition effect, god it looks gorgeous! Not using treb launcher on this build
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I don't think I'm using trebuchet on this either
USB host ? Do you mean the connect the phone in USB mode ?
Works fine here.
xethor said:
I don't think I'm using touchwiz on this either
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Is it possible to set vibration & sound ?
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GS4 Running slowly, keyboard missing keys, and just other miscues

Hey Guys
So I am coming up from an HTC Evo 4G..(not LTE) so you already know this phone is a come up for me. I noticed, however, that the phone is running a tad slowly. Here are a few examples, maybe you all could help me out.
First - when I put in my password pin the phone will lag and catch up when I press OK. Now, technically, this is not that much of an issue because the phone opens up when I press OK...but to see that lag is a little disconcerting.
Second - if I am typing some messages the keyboard will miss certain inputs in my typing. Now maybe I am typing a little too fast, but, come on? I know I am touching those keys... I am using SmartKeyboard but I figure that could be an issue too.
I notice that my ram climbs up pretty high. I clear all my programs...but still. Anyway to remove this bloatware?
Finally is there a root out yet?
Thanks guys. Sorry for the litany of questions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBZ6ydFHLX4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Either debloat for yourself or flash a custom ROM.
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There is a root available for the phone as well as a stock ROM that is entirely free of bloatware located here.
The lag may, in fact, be the keyboard you're using. The most popular keyboard of choice - and for good reason - is SwiftKey; have you given this keyboard a shot? I use it myself and type extremely fast and it keeps up better than my iPhone 4S ever did.
XcoNjA said:
There is a root available for the phone as well as a stock ROM that is entirely free of bloatware located here.
The lag may, in fact, be the keyboard you're using. The most popular keyboard of choice - and for good reason - is SwiftKey; have you given this keyboard a shot? I use it myself and type extremely fast and it keeps up better than my iPhone 4S ever did.
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Thanks man. I'll check it out for sure!
R0CKSTAR3N3RGY said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBZ6ydFHLX4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Either debloat for yourself or flash a custom ROM.
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How can I debloat it myself? I guess uninstalling the apps?
jookskidd said:
Thanks man. I'll check it out for sure!
How can I debloat it myself? I guess uninstalling the apps?
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You can try to uninstall most of the bloatware apps but a lot of them aren't able to be uninstalled which is why people root and head to a custom ROM.
Sooner or later you'll find yourself flashing AOSP ROMs for a complete Vanilla stock Android experience and a performance increase and flashing often.
It's an addiction, I caution you my friend!
XcoNjA said:
You can try to uninstall most of the bloatware apps but a lot of them aren't able to be uninstalled which is why people root and head to a custom ROM.
Sooner or later you'll find yourself flashing AOSP ROMs for a complete Vanilla stock Android experience and a performance increase and flashing often.
It's an addiction, I caution you my friend!
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o yes, i understood that. but I just don't want to brick this thing...I'm a little nervous about that
its kinda hard to brick any samsung galaxy phone.. u would have to do thing really stupid for a brick
100% stock here and using the stock samsung keyboard I also can validate the lag and skippy issues. The chief editor over at phone dog goes over and over about this. So its kind of a known issue. I am coming from the s3 and it was smoother when it came to typing and multitasking. I end freezing and dropping frames a lot I am hoping samsung comes up with a fix.
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I dont see a bug thread so this is the closet thing. Anyone have problems with youtube top bar? Its starts normal then I switch from landscape to portrait and the top bar seems to reflect different parts of the app. Since you guys dont like bloatware are there any sprint apps you actually like?
Heres a screenshot.
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Does cyanogenmod /AOKP roms completely make s pen useless?

I always taking note using the s pen and action memo, if cyanogenmod or aokp roms don't support s pen, do you have any alternatives or other options?
Thank you for your help.
There are many alternatives to Samsung apps and some people can live with them. But to keep it short: yes, anything other then a TW ROM will turn the spen useless.
For the simple fact that I don't have air comands I don't use aosp roms. The battery life is also very bad on them.
I was in CM11 for nearly 6 months. It was like using a normal smartphone, not much Note features there.
So I switched back to Touchwiz based ROM after Lollipop.
AryaMod now ?
And yes battery life is better in TW based ROM and also you have variety of Kernels to flash for saving power like Arter etc
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Yes, pretty much the S Pen is useless with any CM/ AOSP based ROMs. You will have to use Papyrus or something like that instead of S Note, you will then have to install an app so that pop up thing might come (or might not) up when you pull out the S Pen. Awful experience anyway, as good as not having an S Pen like someone already mentioned above.
And to add further my personal findings, more or less everything is better in TouchWiz based ROMs, and no I don't give a damn about anyone saying otherwise.
Cm is not for tw lovers. Nor for noobs
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lvnatic said:
There are many alternatives to Samsung apps and some people can live with them. But to keep it short: yes, anything other then a TW ROM will turn the spen useless.
For the simple fact that I don't have air comands I don't use aosp roms. The battery life is also very bad on them.
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What's your SoT on tw?
marcjuliuscruz said:
I always taking note using the s pen and action memo, if cyanogenmod or aokp roms don't support s pen, do you have any alternatives or other options?
Thank you for your help.
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There IS a way to use the S-Pen on AOSP ROMs, but it's not free. There's a paid app called SPenCommand, and you won't find it on the Play Store because Google purged any app that is toying with SELinux. The app itself emulates the behavior if TouchWiz, as well as Air Command's visual style.
But yes, consider again that AOSP ROMs don't have the battery life of TouchWiz, and regarding the S-Pen, they're somewhat limiting.
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Cm is not for tw lovers. Nor for noobs
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What's your SoT on tw?
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I don't know, because I rarely get to the point where I am left without battery.
When I was on tesla a few weeks ago, it was absolutely horrible.
Basically, yes. CM/AOSP doesn't come with Wacom drivers.
I think there are some third party options, but as for how or how well they work, I don't know.
Installing CM/AOSP turns your Note into a generic smartphone.
kenny1991 said:
What's your SoT on tw?
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(I know you're not asking me, but I thought I'd jump in anyway, because here's why I'm not moving an inch away from stock TW or 4.4.2 )
(And no, I have no idea why my phone is obsessed with the number 47.)
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There's a paid app called SPenCommand (.....) and regarding the S-Pen, they're somewhat limiting.
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Unfortunately a simple App (like SPenCommand I've created) cannot do all what a dedicated environment (a modified Android version) can do.
For example AirScroll feature is not replicabile without changing Android Core files.
I think 80% of TW (at least the stylus part) could be replicabile creating an Xposed Module, but it takes a lot of time.
Samsung has got many developers, money and experience so it's a bit harder for an independent developer to compete with it.
I create SPenCommand with all my idea but any other idea/suggestion is well accepted if it is implementable in the App, I'm always open to all suggestions

LG G5 and UX 5.0

LG G5, at MWC 2016 on 21st Feb, will be presented with UX 5.0..
https://twitter.com/AndreiConache/status/695255593385377792
it will have some cool features.. sample screenshots below.
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changes from UX 4.0
notification:
- edit quick settings button in notification panel header (no more as a qs button)
- ability to edit quick settings directly on notification panel (drag&drop items)
- 2 more buttons below sliders (screen sharing, receivable)
- wifi ap text shown below wifi qs toggle
lockscreen:
- 3 bottom app icons (search, call, camera)
note that this is not the definitive software will come with lg g5.
So do you have it?
paolotheking said:
So do you have it?
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screens only show next UI's features, they are not taken from next LG's flagship.
God their ui is a mess.
guys look this
https://www.twitter.com/xach24/status/696000162381041664?p=v

			
				
so.. as expected all UI changes mentioned earlier are there on G5
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Design is very subtle, really pretty. I like it very much
The design of the UI is something like Samsung Android 6.0 Touchwiz with white accents.
Now without the app drawer (I like it because my home screen is always empty so the home screen is useless for me and settings app looks more cleaner but they bloated with a tons of features that you use it for first time and then not use it at all.
Some people will use these features daily but the average Joe will just use the phone like any other phone. OEM needs some work to advertise these new features when you buy a new phone and the most common thing is to have it enabled by default like the active display otherwise no average user will ding down in settings to see what features does this phone has. Some will some not.
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I dislike the lack of an app drawer.
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I've been seeing mentions of Dual Window being removed. Not cool.
I really like where they're going with the g5. Kinda tired of getting a flagship that just has a processor updates, some hardware updates, and maybe a few gadget apps. This modular thing could really come in handy. Seems like the options could be endless to what module they or third party can make. And wireless charging, I'm sure LG or a third party come up with something. I'll bite!
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xpirt said:
Stuff you said
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will you be getting the lg g5 because I will probably but i will have to wait untill somebody posts screen on time duration because a bad battery could break the deal
suljo94 said:
will you be getting the lg g5 because I will probably but i will have to wait untill somebody posts screen on time duration because a bad battery could break the deal
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90% yes and when I'll reach the necessary amount of money of course
mosincredible said:
I've been seeing mentions of Dual Window being removed. Not cool.
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I think the only reason would be that there weren't many apps that could be used with this dual windows mode. And some rumors said that the Android N will bring us dual windows mode so it would be better and more useful (for many other apps).
xpirt said:
90% yes and when I'll reach the necessary amount of money of course
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Will you continue supporting your ROM for LG G3 then?
Fragin 11 said:
Will you continue supporting your ROM for LG G3 then?
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Of course.
xpirt said:
Of course.
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Thank you, keep this good job.
xpirt said:
so.. as expected all UI changes mentioned earlier are there on G5
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Great job! It will be in Fulmics rom?
here's the video for LG UX5.0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk8Zs3Mlbcs

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