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OK I see that some of you already got the device. My wife wants to replace her Nokia N80 for the white version. Now I previously had an Orange SPV M3100 (HTC Hermes) & had no end of problems with that sold it & now happily using an Asus P525. So how about the the Trinity.
-Is it stable?
-Does A2DP & AVCRP work properly as in having proper stereo output?
-Does the A2DP reconnect automatically to WMP after receiving a call (the -Hermes never did, had to restart everything).
-How's wifi reception (the Hermes was crap). She uses wifi a lot as we have 250mins free BTOpenzone minutes a month.
-I looked at the HTC website but it seems they do not supply firmware upgrade support for their devices. So where can you get them officially?
Fill me in guys. Thanks
Is it stable?
I don't feel it's very stable when coming to the phone part. If I've used the device for a while, I often have to hard-reboot it for the phone part to work again(it just stands "calling", and nothing happends)
-How's wifi reception (the Hermes was crap). She uses wifi a lot as we have 250mins free BTOpenzone minutes a month.
The WiFI reception on my phone is very good. I've actually managed to connect to hot-spots which my laptop didn't manage to connect... *me like*
-I looked at the HTC website but it seems they do not supply firmware upgrade support for their devices. So where can you get them officially?
In Norway you get the official firmware updates/rom from the local distributor.(Dangaard and Brightpoint)
What about other features, like those related to the cameras?
How is visiophony with the front camera?
How is the picture quality of the back camera? Most of the reviews are made with good light conditions. What about the pictures in low light condition?
Movies? Are they correct?
Battery life with that 400 MHz processor compared to Prophet?
Could anyone post pictures/movies made with Trinity?
The wifes P3600 arrived this morning. Been playing with it all for a while & here's my 1st impressions.
Good
Looks nice & shiny
Small size
Excellent loud clear external speaker
Nice & responsive
Phone reception & general operation is fine
3G works well
Bad
Shiny surface = fingerprint magnet
MS bluetooth stack, better than before but still lacking
A2DP implementation. Not real stereo, only mono out from each channel
Also when disconnectd from WMP it doesn't auto reconnect.
In summary if you used previous HTC devices before then you'll be familiar with this one. When used as a pda & phone it does most things as expected, the menus & general operation are same as before.
But its going back, one of the main reasons being the crap A2DP. Wifey uses music player a lot on her 1 hour daily commute & the fact that sound quality is rubbish (low volume & no stereo) & no option to connect a wired headphones as theres no headphone jack. The same problem as the Hermes in that once disconnected from WMP it doesn't auto reconnect. Have to go into Bluetooth manger to re establish the connection.
Also comparing it to my Asus P525 other than the smaller size, 3G, louder external speaker & looks a bit nicer, in all other depts the Asus is as good & some areas much much better.
Well, my opinion is that the camera sucks... Was on a party this weekend _with_ good lighting, all the picutures came out blurry *argh* (could be it was too much light tough?...)
The videotelephony-part on the other hands is quite good(for videotelephone, NOT for taking still-pictures).
And I also don't like the 2-7 sec. delay when you try to call someone... *argh*
neofix said:
Well, my opinion is that the camera sucks... Was on a party this weekend _with_ good lighting, all the picutures came out blurry *argh* (could be it was too much light tough?...)
The videotelephony-part on the other hands is quite good(for videotelephone, NOT for taking still-pictures).
And I also don't like the 2-7 sec. delay when you try to call someone... *argh*
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2 to 7 second delay? It sounds like a ROM upgrade will probably be coming to fix these issues...same story different cover.
zen123 said:
A2DP implementation. Not real stereo, only mono out from each channel
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This sounds new to me. I am using a SonyEricsson stereo BT thingy with my Qtek S200 (with A2DP hack) and as far as I can hear the output is stereo not mono from each channel.
I love mine compared to my Exec! Quicker and sleeker.
And got my 4GB miniSD this morning and it works fine
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This sounds new to me. I am using a SonyEricsson stereo BT thingy with my Qtek S200 (with A2DP hack) and as far as I can hear the output is stereo not mono from each channel.
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Yes, proper stereo could be possible with a registry hack but how many end users are to know that? Only the hardcore users frequent forums such as this & get to learn a lot about their devices. Assuming it can be done then why didn't HTC enable it in the first place? Mention a registry hack to the vast majority of users out there & I'm pretty sure you'll be met with a lot of blank expressions & ??????
With the aesthetic design of the trinity I think HTC are trying to market it to more mainstream audience, thats why my wife likes the look of it, but in all honesty how many of these new users will know how to exploit the device to the full. My wife never visits these forums & even her 8 month old Nokia N80 is still out of the box stock.
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Yes, proper stereo could be possible with a registry hack but how many end users are to know that?
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I thought the registry hack was only to enable A2DP on those devices where the manufacturer had disabled it and the end result of a hacked S200 would be the same of a standard TyTn or a standard P3600... Are you sure the P3600 output is not stereo?
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I thought the registry hack was only to enable A2DP on those devices where the manufacturer had disabled it and the end result of a hacked S200 would be the same of a standard TyTn or a standard P3600... Are you sure the P3600 output is not stereo?
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Pretty sure its not stereo, either that or the stereo separation is really poor because it sounded like mon to me. In saying that though when I paired my iTech R35 stereo bluetooth clip with it there was the option to tick headset mode & stereo mode but its too late now I've sent it back today.
The only dislike on my new P3600 is the position of penon the bottom! . I've used many pda, and the pen was on top! But for the rest I love it!!!!
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Pretty sure its not stereo, either that or the stereo separation is really poor because it sounded like mon to me. In saying that though when I paired my iTech R35 stereo bluetooth clip with it there was the option to tick headset mode & stereo mode but its too late now I've sent it back today.
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You are right the stereo bluetooth output is not stereo. This is ridiculous. I hope this can be fixed with some registry hacking otherwise HTC has really screwed this device big time.
One more thing, the smooth black coating is comming of from the bottom where the stylus is placed.... That's s REAL bad thing, since this will eventually tear up more and more of the coating... And I've only had it for two weeks
default A2DP registry settings for Trinity is:
UseJointStereo = 1
please change to:
UseJointStereo = 0
that will fix the "mono sound" issue.
Question
So far what i read, the software for this phone 3600 is not fully stable,
Camera still delay..
Some bugs
additional question following,
Delay of standard programs opening?
How about the sounds quality (loudness and clearness) is it very good?
which one is really better if compare 3600 and 3300(GPS enabled), which should i buy... -_-"
Thank you in advance..
fantastic device
Got my Trinity since yesterday. I had several phones and pda before (Dell Axim x51v was the last one) but the Trinity is the best until now. small enough, fast enough... if I only could get MMS to work for vodafone germany...
saminegm said:
Got my Trinity since yesterday. I had several phones and pda before (Dell Axim x51v was the last one) but the Trinity is the best until now. small enough, fast enough... if I only could get MMS to work for vodafone germany...
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Did you try these (manual entry and cab for Vodafone):
https://shop.dangaard.de/files/Qtek/Qtek.htm
Tytn and Trinity 3G/UMTS should be the same
So far...the trinity is my new favorite thing..very stable (have had to soft reset twice to get the Wifi signal running after a sync while wifi was on) and lots of fun. Phone is great and signal with one bar or less is still usable - where my old motorola was no good with a weak signal...and i can now make and take calls from my office - where previously there was no chance with the motorola. This device does everything I bought it for -combine my PDA and phone into one device...
where to buy
DaveUK said:
I love mine compared to my Exec! Quicker and sleeker.
And got my 4GB miniSD this morning and it works fine
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Can you please said where did you buy the miniSD? Thanks
Hey, I just bought a nice S18 smartwatch. The guts are the same as the LEMFO and ZGPAX models so I guess at least someone has tried this device. I quite like it - The display is nice and sharp and it's comfy to wear. However, I just CANNOT get this thing to connect to my LG G3. It pairs straight away but that's as far as I get. The box gives a username and password to a website that does supply apk downloads for all their products - except the s18. There is a download for a U8 device, which I gave a go but to no success.
Can anyone help? This fairly decent smartwatch is looking very likely to end up in a drawer next to my old nokias, digi cameras and earphone nests.
Just ordered this watch. I have an LG og pro. 7-10 days and I'll post how I make out.
I believe the Flylink S18 (ZGPAX S18) is a standalone phone. I don't believe it supports smartwatch (called Smart Bluetooth Sync by ZGPAX) functionality in terms of pairing with a phone to get notifications. The ZGPAX S12, S15, S28, MQ588, and S19 support Smart Bluetooth Sync.
That's the case. No sync. But calls are clear. Text are a pain but work. Guess next ill put some music on it.
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Hi I thought I would give a quick review of my gv18 smartwatch purchased for £28 from ebay uk seller so here goes.
The item arrived via Argos click and collect which I was very happy with as I don't drive and work 9-5 and hate receiving royal mail undelivered cards.
The watch is packed in a rather generic looking box with aplus watch printed on the box.
Inside I found the watch and a usb cable along with a User manually with a poorly translated english section so I decided to just charge and test the watch. A full charge took just over an hour. Startup was quick a few seconds really and then I was ready to go. I scanned the mediatek app from the qr code but it wouldn't install on my xperia z3 so downloaded and installed via playstore. Within seconds I was receiving all of my notifications. I could even play music through my watch from my phone using xperia z3s throw feature and was pleasantly surprised by the volume and quality of the watch speaker. If I turn off the throw feature I can control the phones audio via the watch through the phones speaker. I promptly tested the calling and was pleased to note that the caller could hear me very clearly as well as me hearing them albeit in a similar way to hands free on my phone but a lot clearer. Sadly I do not believe there is a way to link the watch directly to bluetooth headset which is a shame as this was my main hope for this watch with the expandable memory. Battery life is good at about 2-3 days limited use with backlight on medium. Regarding the phones other features I can say the pedometer works although I'm unsure of the accuracy, texting even with the keyboard options is pretty much pointless due to the size of the keyboard and poor autocorrect word options. Along with this I have noticed that from time to time my bluetotth disconnects and when on a non silent profile rings continuously and on silent the has a verry week vibration. That said though for a nice looking comfortable watch with easily replaceable bands ( about £6 on ebay for 24mm straight end strap, however you will lose nfc) that is a great handsfree device and receives all notifications and for £28 this watch is deffinately worth the money but I'm thinking of looking at the k8 or s8 now for gps and hope of bluetooth headset when free of phone. UPDATE I have now established that you use bluetooth dialler app to use bluetooth headset however with one headset I use connection strength is almost non existent as unless the phone is touching the headset it disconnects and now with my boudoir earphones I get a connection but with wrist at waist I get drop outs both headsets have good range when paired with my phone.
Looks like someone stole my review lolhttp://mobilevsandroid.blogspot.co.uk/2015/08/gv18-quick-review.html?m=1
How long is the strap that comes with it?
I just ordered one, since I use a waterproof zip bag for my phone when hiking.
If you still need to know I will measure at some point.
I got the watch, but theres no screw on the back of the gv18 case.
I can see a small circle in the plastic, but not cutout.
in softweare the build time is 24-7-2015. Managed to connect phone and a bt headset to play music. But will probably not use that option all that much.
Mine didn't have the screw either I'm wondering if bluetooth connection is a bit ropey due to changing to metal strap.
well, I tested the bluetooth quicly with sonyericsson mw600 headset. I tried dialing with the mw600 inside the jacket and it seemed to work. Just a quick test over lets say 1m distance.
I am thinking of putting some cling film on it or something else for water\moisture protection when hiking.
GV18 or DZ09? which one is better? Which one do you prefer?
What about internet connection? when i have sim in watch, can i connect to internet using phone?
or when i have sim in phone, can i connect to internet using watches?
Couldn't get sim card working
I tried my phone's sim card in the watch, found AT&T's network configuration page, and attempted to get the watch connected. After many unsuccessful attempts, I gave up. Theoretically, the watch gives you a browser, facebook, and whatsapp apps if you're connected with sim card.
just bought it from amazon, will use it primarily to listen to music via bluetooth headphones while jogging. hopefully it works great for my purpose
I have a question. If I would like to use the SmartWatch following situation: I'm going on a bike, on hand SmartWatch (without SIM in slot), in a backpack or pocket smartphone HH6 (with SIM) paired with a watch by BT. Someone calls me, I answer a call on the watch and lead the conversation by saying to the hand on the steering wheel. At this time, simultaneously goes GPS and Endomondo. It is feasible that equipment? Such a test network I have not seen, and the only excitement is that you can let go of a game or film. Which to me is a complete misunderstanding, taking into account the size of the display and battery.
I thought about d5 but there probably is not possible to carry on a conversation by saying to watch when the SIM card is in your phone.
Can the new K18 (2016) would give this advice? Is K18 and K10 the same thing?
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I would say a yes - sort of... There are considerations which would affect your scenario that would impact *any* device regardless of who manufactures it. If the phone is in a backpack and the watch on your wrist, there there will probably be issues with BLE signal quality between the devices. However, if the phone is on the side where you're wearing the watch, then there will less drops/glitches. This of course is *before* we talk about the quality of the wrist device itself - in how well its microphone/speaker might work, etc.
With all of that said, I have a similar setup with several devices. I just received the No.1 A10 (mainly for swimming but also for general use when out-and-about) and the K9 3G (more for 'civilized' situations) each of which I pair with my HTC one M8 when in-use. I also have a SIM in my K9 3G, both as a backup for my phone and for SMS (I've been involved with the SWApps Link app roadmap since early stages - so I test its failover from BLE to Push and SMS) and for tethered use/notifications from the phone. I'm not sure if that helps you, but it should give you some 'color' on the options that are available.
I think just about *any* device will promise to do what you suggest. But there's bad news: the real world. The little bit of time I've spend with the A10 as a transponder (phone calling **** Tracy style, but the call is to/from the mobile phone in my pocket with the A10 as mic/speaker) has been bad enough that I pulled the phone from my pocket and took over the call. I'll spend more time experimenting with it and the K9, but I'm not sure if the technology is really ready for the real world, if the hardware I've selected is actually up to the task - or - if my standards are simply too high.
I thinks all you need it an Android wear/ or Original Android to connect with your phone and also can run Endomondo. To answer the call, I think it will be better if you use a bluetooth headset, It will better for music, voice training and call.
Now I'm using a D5 with backup sim with a mi bluetooth headset to track my running. I let my phone home and set an automatic app to send a sms for someone who call my phone to call to my backup number in necessary case. And it just works fine with me (I try and D5 can run almost all running apps quite good. But for see the map when you run, looklike Runkeeper and Endomondo is the best)
So at the moment is not fully good watch, which can be used for making calls, if your SIM card is near the inside of the phone?
I care not to insert every time the SIM card from my phone to watch and vice versa. I also do not want to run another SIM number.
Are D5 offers such a possibility at all? In the movies on YT people call from the watch, in which is placed SIM card. I have not seen anyone talking on his watch and the SIM card in the phone.
Are currently in the Chinese market is something better than D5 in price to approx 150$. I mean similar or better functionality. I mainly depends essentially on the good battery life, protection against light rain, GPS and the communication with the phone, about which we speak. Maybe M8? There is battery 600mAh.
Are K18 for example, would not be better? There is probably the SD card slot.
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So at the moment is not fully good watch, which can be used for making calls, if your SIM card is near the inside of the phone?
I care not to insert every time the SIM card from my phone to watch and vice versa. I also do not want to run another SIM number.
Are D5 offers such a possibility at all? In the movies on YT people call from the watch, in which is placed SIM card. I have not seen anyone talking on his watch and the SIM card in the phone.
Are currently in the Chinese market is something better than D5 in price to approx 150$. I mean similar or better functionality. I mainly depends essentially on the good battery life, protection against light rain, GPS and the communication with the phone, about which we speak. Maybe M8? There is battery 600mAh.
Are K18 for example, would not be better? There is probably the SD card slot.
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You confusion is well founded. My two examples, the No1 A10 and the K9 3G are to show examples of *completely* different device setups.
A10 - Bluetooth connection to phone only - no SIM. It has a microphone and speaker for using like a bluetooth headset for answering calls, except it's on your wrist. The No1 A10 can be found online for $50-60US.
K9 - It can *both* function as a bluetooth extension to the phone like the A10- - AND - also operate on its own with a SIM chip inside the watch itself. Depending on how your carrier operates, you *may* be able to set up the SIM on your wrist to look/act/feel like the SIM on your phone (presenting the same number, receiving calls, etc) so that the experience is relatively seamless. But aside from the technical hurdles as to whether the telecom/mobile carrier actually allows this function - there's the cost. I paid $124 for the K9 3G and you can find it for prices in that range at various outlets online. The cost of running a second SIM and related hassles vary widely.
The D5 is more similar to (and perhaps even exactly the same as) the K9 3G though I don't know the D5. I chose the K9 because of the 1900 support that allows me to use it on T-Mobile in the US.
These two different device profiles give different positives and negatives. One the one hand, the K9 is a much "smarter" watch, with more capaiblities - being that it runs full Android 4.4.2. On the down side, it burns through battery very quickly when in heavy use (such as running Google Fit to track steps/location via GPS during workouts) - and it isn't fully waterproof. The A10 is water "resistent" and presumably more able to handle the rough-and-tumble world, and the battery last several days without a charge - but - it has no SIM, no memory to speak of, and relatively limited functionality.
That is a very, very long way of saying YMMV (your mileage may vary).
Hi,
I would like to buy smartwatch for up to 140$
It must have some functions like:
-showing who is calling
-showing prompts
-turn tu wake
-sending sms via bt
-calling via bt
-min 2 days on battery
-optionally waterproof
-if possible, android os
For now I've found 3 smartwatches wich are good enought
Ourtime X01s - not to good battery life, bad look, about 67$
No.01 d5+ - littlebit better battery life, realy good look, about 110$
Old samsung gear fit - good battery life, goid look, without android, less functions, about 50$
Do you have better watch than thoes or should I bou one of them?
Hi,
I bought the D5+. It is a good looking watch with approx. one day battery lifetime. But your points:
-sending sms via bt
-calling via bt
are not fulfilled by these watch. Also the companion app "Watch helper" is horrible according to the annoying BT connection interrupt alert, which is not possible to disable it.
I'm wondering if I will return these watch because of these issues.
Do you know if there are other companion apps which are working with the watch helper on the phone together? Or are there any costom roms for watches with MTK6580 chip available which are providing nearly all features for companion device and/or stand alone device? I'm using the D5+ as companion device to my smartphone. But there are many features which I'm missing.
Regarding my mentioned Watchhelper issue here a solution: https://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/xposed-watchhelper-fixer-finow-lemfo-t3557531