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Hi there.
I'm thinking of buying a G2 again as I heard the Android 4.4.2 is now live here in the UK/EU. But I want to ask about the other improvements to the device.
Most particularly the camera.
1. Is there any minor or subtle changes to the quality, behaviour, speed to the stock G2 camera?
2. If I install a third party camera app like Google Camera will the algorithm and "interpretation" in terms of picture quality be improved or changed?
Please advice. Thanks.
Gino76ph said:
Hi there.
I'm thinking of buying a G2 again as I heard the Android 4.4.2 is now live here in the UK/EU. But I want to ask about the other improvements to the device.
Most particularly the camera.
1. Is there any minor or subtle changes to the quality, behaviour, speed to the stock G2 camera?
2. If I install a third party camera app like Google Camera will the algorithm and "interpretation" in terms of picture quality be improved or changed?
Please advice. Thanks.
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1. No. But you can install xdadebb's camera mod which makes the stock camera much better
2. Google Camera doesn't share anything with LG software, they are independent. You can have both at same time, but you need KK.
ECrispy said:
1. No. But you can install xdadebb's camera mod which makes the stock camera much better
2. Google Camera doesn't share anything with LG software, they are independent. You can have both at same time, but you need KK.
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Sorry I don't do root as I prefer the original and stock uodates. I feel I might damage the phone even more.
Does it mean I need to have android 4.4.2 in order to install Google Camera?
Gino76ph said:
Sorry I don't do root as I prefer the original and stock uodates. I feel I might damage the phone even more.
Does it mean I need to have android 4.4.2 in order to install Google Camera?
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Yes, the camera from play store needs KitKat. Also many people on this forum can help you with rooting, you don't even need to modify stock software. I am running the stock KitKat just with root.
It improved the launch of camera and focus slightly but not a huge difference
I did some test with the google camera taking exact pictures and comparing I found the stock was slightly sharper, so google's camera app is using a different post processing.
I honestly can't figure out which is better for the life of me.
Stock camera is awesome. But if only I am taking photos with shutter button. On screen button makes the camera focus again after initially locking focus with touch, although it remembers where to focus.
This may cause some lost moments due to delay in shutter speed.
Now, Google Camera, on the other hand, takes photos instantaneously. Much faster than stock camera from my observation. Lock focus with touch, then either on-screen or shutter button takes photos instantly. This makes me a very happy photographer.
But this might mean that I am losing out on Sony-powered enhancements they made for the stock camera, so I am doing various of tests to see which camera is superior.
As for now, both camera takes exceptional photos, but I can noticing differences in color, where Stock makes colors colder where Google makes it bit warmer.
Which camera do you guys prefer?
rickyoon.vegas said:
I honestly can't figure out which is better for the life of me.
Stock camera is awesome. But if only I am taking photos with shutter button. On screen button makes the camera focus again after initially locking focus with touch, although it remembers where to focus.
This may cause some lost moments due to delay in shutter speed.
Now, Google Camera, on the other hand, takes photos instantaneously. Much faster than stock camera from my observation. Lock focus with touch, then either on-screen or shutter button takes photos instantly. This makes me a very happy photographer.
But this might mean that I am losing out on Sony-powered enhancements they made for the stock camera, so I am doing various of tests to see which camera is superior.
As for now, both camera takes exceptional photos, but I can noticing differences in color, where Stock makes colors colder where Google makes it bit warmer.
Which camera do you guys prefer?
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can you post some samples from both apps
For me stock all the way. I had a phone with very Shutter speed without focus before. Problem was half of my pictures came out blurry. I'd rather wait a milisec for the focus and have a sharp picture than hammering that button and hope for the best plus for me it's always really hard to keep the cam steady when pressing the touch button. As I said half my pictures came out blurry and out of focus with my sgs3. With the z3 every picture is perfect so far. Never had so much fun with a smartphone camera. And that because of the ergonomics and not because of megapixlz.
But why not have both apps side by side and use the one better suited for the situation?
clouds5 said:
For me stock all the way. I had a phone with very Shutter speed without focus before. Problem was half of my pictures came out blurry. I'd rather wait a milisec for the focus and have a sharp picture than hammering that button and hope for the best plus for me it's always really hard to keep the cam steady when pressing the touch button. As I said half my pictures came out blurry and out of focus with my sgs3. With the z3 every picture is perfect so far. Never had so much fun with a smartphone camera. And that because of the ergonomics and not because of megapixlz.
But why not have both apps side by side and use the one better suited for the situation?
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Galaxy phones are the same i guess. I have an s5, previously moto x and iphone 5 user. Never had blur in my photos, but with galaxy s5 out of 10 i take 7 will be blurry but camera quality is really good if its not blurry on the s5 especially day light
Speaking of cameras, can you turn off the shutter sound in either of these camera apps?
I could turn it off on my old xperia acro s, but apparently Sony has decided this feature was too powerful for the z3 compact.
Sony stock cam offers "no sound" option in settings
Bäcker said:
Sony stock cam offers no sound option in settings
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The Sony camera on my Z3C has an option to disable sound.
mattdm said:
The Sony camera on my Z3C has an option to disable sound.
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yes, actually I was trying to say the same, just should have added the quotation marks or a dash right away
What settings are you guys using for the stock sony cam? I cant seem to get photos that are as sharp as I'd like. They look great on the z3c display, then i look at them on my laptop and am disappointed. Tried SA, manual, 8mp, 15mp, and all sorts of other settings.
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yes, actually I was trying to say the same, just should have added the quotation marks or a dash right away
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Haha ok. Sometimes it's hard to figure tone on the internet. :silly:
Last time I tried the Google Camera it didn't like the 2 stage shutter. I think Sony did a decent number on the Camera app, so will be using it for the time being.
I am also using the default camera app. Its awesome!
I think the google camera needs a overhaul. Its good for just point and shoot but it lacks features. Lets hope Android L apis can help with this.
I figure I'll keep the stock camera as well as Google camera installed for different purposes. Stock camera for everything else, and Google camera for panoramas and photo spheres. Have not compared the difference in panorama shots between stock and google camera yet though.
I found google camera to be worse in low light situations. However the app Camera jb+, gave me better results allround compared to the stock camera.
Sorry to dig up that rather old thread...but something is bugging me! I can't seem to find the setting to turn out ff the sound
Can someone help me?
Sorry, the menu is in German but you guys will probably understand what it means...there is no SOUND ...
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oTToToTenTanz said:
Sorry to dig up that rather old thread...but something is bugging me! I can't seem to find the setting to turn out ff the sound
Can someone help me?
Sorry, the menu is in German but you guys will probably understand what it means...there is no SOUND ...
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This is quite weird since I have a "sound" option in the same menu as you posted.. What firmware are you on?
Crazy...then I'd think its based on what country's firmware is installed...I'm from Germany and some users report (on older Sony xperia z's) that they can't disable the shutter sound.
What coutry are you from? Is there a way to get the camera app from another software? I heard there are also complications with DRM
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Crazy...then I'd think its based on what country's firmware is installed...I'm from Germany and some users report (on older Sony xperia z's) that they can't disable the shutter sound.
What coutry are you from? Is there a way to get the camera app from another software? I heard there are also complications with DRM
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Sweden :good:
Maybe with the google camera app you can switch off the sound
The DRM complications might relate to unlock/root where some lowlight functions get lost for good - but if rooting/unlocking isn't a matter of life and death I wouldn't do it until a safe method is found.
I'm from germany (german stock .77 ROM, no branding etc.) and I have this option.
I'm a Google camera fanboy now. The stock app isn't consistent enough and too much time consuming. I like simplicity above the ultimate shot. Also like the photosphere ability. This way I can relive the moment in VR.
OK so coming from an LG G2 with an awesome camera even in low light, my biggest concern is camera performance as I just bought a note 3 to replace a G2 with a screen defect. I must likely won't have root as I am sure the phone will arrive with lollipop already installed. I know the lenovo camera is pretty good and on par with the G2 if you hooks it stay on low light mode. I also understand that I won't have OIS either.
Is the sick camera app good in all conditions or its there something better I can use without root for now? Is there an S6 OR N4 camera port that doesn't require root? I ask that because it seems Samsung did a great job with image processing for point and shoot in those two asps. Thanks for any advice!
9646gt said:
OK so coming from an LG G2 with an awesome camera even in low light, my biggest concern is camera performance as I just bought a note 3 to replace a G2 with a screen defect. I must likely won't have root as I am sure the phone will arrive with lollipop already installed. I know the lenovo camera is pretty good and on par with the G2 if you hooks it stay on low light mode. I also understand that I won't have OIS either.
Is the sick camera app good in all conditions or its there something better I can use without root for now? Is there an S6 OR N4 camera port that doesn't require root? I ask that because it seems Samsung did a great job with image processing for point and shoot in those two asps. Thanks for any advice!
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Either the Google camera app or VSCO Cam they're both really nice
What is better? the camera app from xiaomi or google? Has the camera app anything to do with video stabilization? If yes it will be better on Google Camera?
P.S: If someone can give me samples(images, videos) from both apps I will be happy
vraciu' said:
What is better? the camera app from xiaomi or google? Has the camera app anything to do with video stabilization? If yes it will be better on Google Camera?
P.S: If someone can give me samples(images, videos) from both apps I will be happy
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I posted here one simple example of the difference in night light: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74176704&postcount=34
In daylight Google camera is marginally better, and very consistent in good shots, the stock camera can sometimes loose focus.
I haven't yet had chance to compare videos, but I think the google camera will also give betters results, as the stock camera has issues in focusing in low light.
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I posted here one simple example of the difference in night light: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74176704&postcount=34
In daylight Google camera is marginally better, and very consistent in good shots, the stock camera can sometimes loose focus.
I haven't yet had chance to compare videos, but I think the google camera will also give betters results, as the stock camera has issues in focusing in low light.
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Is Google camera available to download and install without issue? Wouldn't mind giving it a test...
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vaderag said:
Is Google camera available to download and install without issue? Wouldn't mind giving it a test...
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Search here in xda for google camera port, there are many many versions, so you must play with it. And root and enabling camera 2 api is a must for the apk to work.
NITRO_100 said:
Search here in xda for google camera port, there are many many versions, so you must play with it. And root and enabling camera 2 api is a must for the apk to work.
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Oh bummer... don't want to root Guess i'll leave it then...
tempted to root to install the GCam HDR+ but hesitant to do the tedious work in unlocking bootloader - fastboot - rooting
having the new phone for daily use is awesome, the only downside is the quality of low light pictures.. it's awful :fingers-crossed: my late mi4i takes low light with much better results..
oooh I guess that's why google pixle costs so much more
I recommend to root it. The picture quality is now stunning! Once unlocked and rooted, it is easy to relock and unroot since you know the steps
Anyone managed to fix the major lack of image stabilization on this camera?
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vaderag said:
Anyone managed to fix the major lack of image stabilization on this camera?
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If you mean the Miui camera, then it's up to Xiaomi to add stabilization.
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If you mean the Miui camera, then it's up to Xiaomi to add stabilization.
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Sorry, should have been clearer. I've found that blurriness in my photos is a real issue... I don't have root so Google camera is a no go, but seen a lot of people experimented with other cameras in this thread so wondered if any other software better than the stock Mi A1 camera software?
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vaderag said:
Sorry, should have been clearer. I've found that blurriness in my photos is a real issue... I don't have root so Google camera is a no go, but seen a lot of people experimented with other cameras in this thread so wondered if any other software better than the stock Mi A1 camera software?
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Try open camera
NITRO_100 said:
I posted here one simple example of the difference in night light: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74176704&postcount=34
In daylight Google camera is marginally better, and very consistent in good shots, the stock camera can sometimes loose focus.
I haven't yet had chance to compare videos, but I think the google camera will also give betters results, as the stock camera has issues in focusing in low light.
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Hello Nitro, thanks for your example.
Did you use HDR Mode on Stock Camera or did you work on focus/exposition time?
This because I am getting good photos with Stock camera in low light; I cannot still compare with Google Camera because my device is not rooted (I will root, maybe, after Oreo update).
vaderag said:
Sorry, should have been clearer. I've found that blurriness in my photos is a real issue... I don't have root so Google camera is a no go, but seen a lot of people experimented with other cameras in this thread so wondered if any other software better than the stock Mi A1 camera software?
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What is the reason that u don't want to root it? It is worth it for the better camera IMO
Roykooiman said:
What is the reason that u don't want to root it? It is worth it for the better camera IMO
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Well, one of the main reasons I bought this phone was for clean android and updates etc
Could be a misunderstanding on my part but I'm assuming that rooting will mean I don't get those updates?
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vaderag said:
Well, one of the main reasons I bought this phone was for clean android and updates etc
Could be a misunderstanding on my part but I'm assuming that rooting will mean I don't get those updates?
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As long as u don't touch the system partition ur good to go, that said: Magisk is able to do this. I'm using Magisk and continue to get updates. U only have to flash Magisk again after every update and the module but that its
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P.S: If someone can give me samples(images, videos) from both apps I will be happy
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GCam:
IMG_20171125_121303 by STrider.photo, on Flickr
Stock automatic:
IMG_20171125_121310 by STrider.photo, on Flickr
Stock HDR:
IMG_20171125_121315_HDR by STrider.photo, on Flickr
Stock HDR with 2x optical zoom:
IMG_20171125_121320_HDR by STrider.photo, on Flickr
Thanks, maybe I prefer Google Camera, but in my opinion both cameras have similar (good) quality. Or not ?
On good lightning they are similar (stock has a bit more noise), but when the conditions are not so ideal like on my examples above difference is bigger.
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... but when the conditions are not so ideal like on my examples above difference is bigger.
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Sorry, where have conditions not ideal? Pictures here are in good light
I meant that my conditions where ideal, when they aren't the difference is bigger
Hi all,
I'm going to install a custom ROM but wanted to ask a few questions first.
What's the deal with the camera? Camera quality is important to me and I've heard that custom ROMs can degrade the camera performance. What exactly happens? I don't think much of the stock camera app and so use Snap Camera instead as it has the ability to turn off noise-reduction and has way more features.
Will there be any difference using Snap on a custom ROM. Does HDR still work well?
More generally, what ROMs are good in terms of being bug free, smooth and recent Android version (7+).
Thanks
Oh, and if anyone could point me in the direction of a good guide for initial rooting and custom recovery for the 900F that would be super! :good:
tooplanx said:
Hi all,
I'm going to install a custom ROM but wanted to ask a few questions first.
What's the deal with the camera? Camera quality is important to me and I've heard that custom ROMs can degrade the camera performance. What exactly happens? I don't think much of the stock camera app and so use Snap Camera instead as it has the ability to turn off noise-reduction and has way more features.
Will there be any difference using Snap on a custom ROM. Does HDR still work well?
More generally, what ROMs are good in terms of being bug free, smooth and recent Android version (7+).
Thanks
Oh, and if anyone could point me in the direction of a good guide for initial rooting and custom recovery for the 900F that would be super! :good:
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Man, for me, the performance of Snap camera is better than stock, I was fear of the same, camera quality, but for me HDR and noise-reduction is much better than samsung's camera. Now I can't barely use stock roms without Snap, or Mi A2 Magisk module. It just don't have so many functions like stock one, but I don't mind for it.
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tooplanx said:
Oh, and if anyone could point me in the direction of a good guide for initial rooting and custom recovery for the 900F that would be super! :good:
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/root-how-to-install-twrp-custom-rom-t3677324
Here, just make sure you're downloading files for your phone model, you can see it in "About the phone" on settings of your phone, thanks for who made that guide of the link
For the camera just use snap camera (default LineageOS app) and this mod https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...-15-1-camera-supporting-60fps-120fps-t3809145
Also, for rooting G900F you just need to flash TWRP using odin and then the desired root solution, (i would recomend latest magisk)
Thanks both.
I've been using my phone on CrDroid first, then Mokee for about a week now and I think the camera is just fine.
I have done some comparison shots and there seems to be no difference between Snap Cam on stock and Snap Cam on custom rom.
The few differences I have found are in the denoising process. If you like denoising (and I don't), then the stock TouchWiz camera does a much better job of resolving detail and contrast than Snap Cam or the in built camera app of CrDroid or Mokee does. Denoising is pretty bad. However, I have recently installed Google Camera on Mokee and that seems to do a pretty good job with denoising. Alternatively you could just use an app like Snapseed to denoise photos you think need it, and get much better results.