Database Users

TV Out?

Nexus 7 TV Out?
I'm considering a purchase but like the idea of watching my movies on a hotels TV screen.
So is TV out possible with the Nexus 7 either with an RCA composite output via the 3.5mm headphone socket
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-5M-Long-...#ht_1981wt_689
Or
Using something like this micro-USB to HDMI type connector?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Micro-USB-...#ht_4714wt_922

I was wondering this too,but couldn't findthe answer. with a mod ROM, special software and adapter, will it ever be possible to get any video out of the device?
Nexus 7 16gb, unlocked, rooted, stick drive, trinity 7 kernel, stock OS.

theres no hdmi or any physical way to connect it to the tv yet. The best bet by the looks of it is by using a miracast dongle (which by the way, dont quite exist yet....) its basically another standard similar to DLNA, take a look here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b52zqNIeQso

Another possibility coming out soon is ESRLabs Android Transporter using the Raspberry Pi. My Raspberry will be here today, been wanting one to play with for a long time. Not ETA for the Transporter but hopefully soon.

My RP arrived today!
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}

That thing is cool.
I've been using Intel Wireless Display (WiDi) to beam my laptop incl. protected blue ray HD movies to my HD TV via belkins wireless adapter.
I wanted something like that for my N7.
I just emailed ETA about it and am awaiting their reply.
Sent from my Nexus 7 16gb, unlocked, rooted, trinity 7 kernel, stock OS using Tapatalk 2.
---------- Post added at 05:29 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:17 PM ----------
That thing is cool.
I've been using Intel Wireless Display (WiDi) to beam my laptop incl. protected blue ray HD movies to my HD TV via belkins wireless adapter.
I wanted something like that for my N7.
I just emailed ESR about it and am awaiting their reply.
Sent from my Nexus 7 16gb, unlocked, rooted, trinity 7 kernel, stock OS using Tapatalk 2.

tektools said:
I just emailed ESR about it and am awaiting their reply.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Most likely not going to get a direct reply from ESR. The email address they have posted gets you on their Mailing List so when they have something to say they will post via that and their website. Can't imagine how many people are pinging them daily about their project.
I can't wait until they release something. Even at 150ms latency, for what I want to use it for it won't matter (not much of a gaming guy). Latency will have no effect on images, watching videos (netflix, google etc..) on the big screen which is where it will end up.

Another option is the HTC MediaLink.
Billy

JeepFreak said:
Another option is the HTC MediaLink.
Billy
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Doesn't that require an HTC phone though?

Cl8rs said:
Doesn't that require an HTC phone though?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No it doesn't Jeepfreak is correct it works very well. But it is only for media viewing only. This does not output the N7 screen like MHL!
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app

Update
Got a reply from ESR! Ahss-sahm!
hi paul,
we received a Nexus 7 last week and are working on it. will keep you updated...
best,
gerd
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

tektools said:
Got a reply from ESR! Ahss-sahm!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Cool. figured they would be inundated.
I setup my RPi this weekend. have it now running headless with a WiFi dongle. Have it setup to work with both a DVI monitor and the big screen via HDMI.
Just streamed a full 1080p movie to the Big Screen from it, though the video was on the RPi not from another source. Output was flawless.
Can't wait to see their software and start doing the same from the Nexus 7.

I dont understand google.
They want to sell movies, but you cant connect it directly to a TFT / TV via HDMI or similiar to watch it on your big screen.
What went wrong there ?
ed.:
(Is it: Buy expensive wireless things from us so you don't need even a cheap dirty cable. ?)

krelvinaz said:
Cool. figured they would be inundated.
I setup my RPi this weekend. have it now running headless with a WiFi dongle. Have it setup to work with both a DVI monitor and the big screen via HDMI.
Just streamed a full 1080p movie to the Big Screen from it, though the video was on the RPi not from another source. Output was flawless.
Can't wait to see their software and start doing the same from the Nexus 7.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I received my raspberry pi two weeks ago and LOVE it now that I have it running OpenELEC. Unfortunately I ordered from two different companies since the turnaround time sucked and just received the second one. Allied is super hard to get ahold of for refunds so I guess I'm just going to use the second one for the living room as soon as this gets released so I can stream Netflix.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda premium

An USB-storage works with a GTO-adapter and the app Nexus Media Importer.
So for HDMI could there in future maybe also be an app to enable some kind of USB to HDMI-Adapter ?
"As of today, the company says that the shipping build of Android 4.1 Jelly Bean doesn't support the Mobile High-Definition Link (MHL) which would allow it to double as an HDMI port, nor advanced USB On-The-Go (OTG) functionality."
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/29/3127278/nexus-7-mhl-usb-otg

Aww, looks like no mhl here. The point is that it wud have likely Increased the price. And the whole idea of "Google play" is that you don't HAvE to connect ur Tablet to TV, since all. Movies u bot or rented are available from any device on Google play site. My TV at home is internet enabled like a lot of TV s nowadays, so its easy. Also the reason they didn't bother with the storage ... its all supposed to be "web content viewer" type thing. The problem is WiFi or internet is not as common. Outside of some countries like the us or so.

Very good points.
Playing games wireless on the big screen isn't supported yet, is it?
Here in Europe lot of people don't trust the clouds, as they don't know where their data is stored and therefor by which laws it is protected.
As to me and new TV's including wifi streaming:
I try to buy devices to last very long because of the embodied energy a device needs to get produced.
So until a new device doesn't saves more energy then the old cost, or it stops working, it will be used.
(Most devices need more energy to get produced then they consume in their short living time, not to talk about the toxic byproducts... )
I have also a Mediaplayer with wifi, but it is still more complicated to switch it on and switch to streaming instead of plugging the cord of the TV to the Tablet.
Of course to be wireless is/would be a nice thing, but eg. I wouldnt like to sleep next to the wifi router...

splotz said:
I dont understand google.
They want to sell movies, but you cant connect it directly to a TFT / TV via HDMI or similiar to watch it on your big screen.
What went wrong there ?
ed.:
(Is it: Buy expensive wireless things from us so you don't need even a cheap dirty cable. ?)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They want you to buy the NexusQ (whenever they decide to bring it out again)

Update! Just released: http://esrlabs.com/android-transporter-for-the-nexus-7-and-the-raspberry-pi/
Sent from my Nexus 7 16gb, unlocked, rooted, trinity 7 kernel, stock OS using Tapatalk 2.

46. warDNo
Aw. That looks amazing but having to install custom firmware is overkill. Just got a Nexus 7 and a Nyko blue tooth controller. Little disappointed there's no way to get the display on a television, guess I should have done my homework first

[Q] Nexus 4 and Nexus 7... why get both?

I've been very interested in the Nexus 4 since I heard about it awhile back. I've been reading every review and as many comments from bloggers who already have a preview device.
I've already decided that I'm going to buy a Nexus 4. Coming from a modded Samsung Vibrant I really don't have much to compare it to and since it's faster than the S3 I think I'm pretty much sold.
I also am looking to purchase a tablet like the Nexus 10 or Surface. I have been reading about people wanting to own both a Nexus 4 and a Nexus 7 instead of a Nexus 10.
My question: Is the Nexus 7 really worth it if you already own a Nexus 4?
I understand that the Nexus 7 is best for reading and the Nexus 10 is better for videos and web browsing. Am I correct in that assumption?
I'm not looking for a debate on which is better, but personal opinions and why would be great.
Thanks!

I have the Nexus 7. It's a lot more usable than a 10" tablet unless you plan on sharing it with someone else in my opinion.
I really can't think of a single reason in the world to purchase the Surface RT at this point considering we just saw a leak for MS Office for Android / iOS.
I'd purchase the 7 if I were you OP. Especially if you want something portable and something that you want to read on. Can't go wrong for 199 either

let me tell you how i use a phone, making phone calls, posting tweets, google+ and reading short articles.
this is how i use a tablet(in my case an ipad full version) once i bought a bluetooth keyboard i take it with me to college, for notes, to write papers, to read, watch netflix, youtube, etc. It completely took the place of my netbook for my uses.
am entertaining the idea of buying a 7inch only if i could find a bluetooth keyboard to do the same functions.
I can't see how my phone would replace my tablet or vise versa.
If you need a tablet to fucntion differently from a phone, then maybe you should get one.
If you feel that you need to upgrade your phone, maybe you do.
Edit:
Stay away from the Surface RT, if you want something that would take the place of a tablet and a real laptop get a Surface Pro.

I guess I should explain my situation a bit more.
I work as a vendor for Microsoft so having a Surface Pro is probably my safest bet. I understand that Office 2013 will be available for Android but probably overpriced and I can get it for the Surface for free.
I am a 35 year old father of 5. I work from home primarily and don't travel a whole lot. I would be sharing the device with my kids probably so they can watch Netflix or play games etc.
However, I am still entertaining the Nexus 10 if Office is cheap enough and the whole experience is better than Surface.
Anyway, back to my original question. Why buy a Nexus 7 if you already have a Nexus 4?

I went from an ipad 3 to a Nexus 7 and frankly, the screen just doesn't cut it for reading or anything else. I preferred reading on the ipad 3 and that thing was a heavy beast. The lighter and more ergonomic Nexus 10 should be perfect for reading, provided the shape isn't too unwieldy in portrait mode. If it does end up being too awkward in portrait, just get an e-reader with the $100 you saved on the Nexus 10 compared to the t700 or with the $250 you saved on the Nexus 4 compared to the GS3 unlocked. Or you could just read books in landscape mode.
The Nexus 7 is more for the crowd that is willing to use a phablet to replace their phone and tablet all in one. The nexus 7 is for the crowd that wants the convenience of a phablet but still wants their phone separate. If you are like me though, where the goal was to have a phone and 10 inch tablet from the start, then don't even consider a Nexus 7, not until it drops to $99 at least.

I actually think the Nexus 7 is the perfect device for web browsing and videos instead of the Nexus 10. My personal opinion is that it's easy on the hands and more mobile than the 10" tablets. I have a TF101 OG Transformer and I'd rather pull out the Nexus 7 instead to do reading, watch videos, read manga (I actually do all of my manga reading on it), view email attachments and as a GPS on the road. Basically, to me it's the perfect business device if you get a lot of emails and stuff while still have a huge horsepower to play games and watch videos (MX Player). I don't think I'd use the OG Transformer that I have now to play games. It's basically now a video machine and pretty much useless to me when I got the Nexus 7.
That being said, the Nexus 4 offers also the quick speed and more ram than the Nexus 7. But it's a phone, to make phone calls with, text, WhatsApp, to be quickly pulled out from my pocket. But the Nexus 7 is a better device to do the rest on because of the device having the "right" screen size. I'd just tether the Nexus 4 to the Nexus 7 if I need to do anything else.
Kind of makes it sound like I don't need the Nexus 4 after all does it. But I'm going to purchase it to upgrade my aging ST18i Xperia ray that has a 3.3" screen to something more useful and quicker as well as having better application development platform in having both the Nexus 4 and the Nexus 7.

kindiboy said:
let me tell you how i use a phone, making phone calls, posting tweets, google+ and reading short articles.
this is how i use a tablet(in my case an ipad full version) once i bought a bluetooth keyboard i take it with me to college, for notes, to write papers, to read, watch netflix, youtube, etc. It completely took the place of my netbook for my uses.
am entertaining the idea of buying a 7inch only if i could find a bluetooth keyboard to do the same functions.
I can't see how my phone would replace my tablet or vise versa.
If you need a tablet to fucntion differently from a phone, then maybe you should get one.
If you feel that you need to upgrade your phone, maybe you do.
Edit:
Stay away from the Surface RT, if you want something that would take the place of a tablet and a real laptop get a Surface Pro.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i agree get a surface pro with full windows 8 if you need a laptop replacement

I'm not a fan of the small tablet, I figure I can do anything I'd want to do on a 7" tab with a 4.7" phone. For games and movies I'd rather use a 10" tab. I don't read e-books often, but I don't mind using my phone for reading, and if I needed more space I'd probably get a Note II and still skip the small tab.

sh0td0wn said:
Kind of makes it sound like I don't need the Nexus 4 after all does it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's my point. I can understand wanting a Nexus 4 because it's a phone but the Nexus 7 is just a tablet that has a bigger screen but not as big as the 10".
I really wish there were places out there where you could physically look at all of the available options.

I have a Transformer Prime, Nexus 7 and SIII. Now I know the Prime isn't comparable to the N10 (as the N10 will most likely blow it out of the water) but in terms of usage, I NEVER use my Prime. My N7 however sees most usage out of all 3. It's the perfect size for almost everything, I find the larger screen is better for gaming, but it's not TOO large (like the bigger 10" prime). For reading, it's also perfect, as it fits in one hand without any strain at all, better than the Prime and a book. I don't think I have anything negative to say about the N7, I don't think the lack of camera is a problem and for £160 for the 16gb you can't go wrong.
In terms of owning an N7 and an N4, I plan on selling my SIII and buying the N4 on release day, reason being they both provide different functions. I love my N7 for usage at home, browsing the internet, playing games etc. but I don't take it with me everywhere, that's what I use my phone for! If I'm leaving the house for uni or just generally going out I'll always have my phone on me and most of the time leave my N7 at home, but when I'm taking my N7 with me it means that my phone battery will last 3 times longer
So I reckon that owning both is pretty reasonable, especially considering you can pick up both for around the same price as a regular smartphone or tablet, or even less than our fruit based friend.

Skullpuck said:
That's my point. I can understand wanting a Nexus 4 because it's a phone but the Nexus 7 is just a tablet that has a bigger screen but not as big as the 10".
I really wish there were places out there where you could physically look at all of the available options.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
See, that's what I thought too until I read what jrush4 said, which is basically what I'm going to do when I have both.
jrush4 said:
I have a Transformer Prime, Nexus 7 and SIII. Now I know the Prime isn't comparable to the N10 (as the N10 will most likely blow it out of the water) but in terms of usage, I NEVER use my Prime. My N7 however sees most usage out of all 3. It's the perfect size for almost everything, I find the larger screen is better for gaming, but it's not TOO large (like the bigger 10" prime). For reading, it's also perfect, as it fits in one hand without any strain at all, better than the Prime and a book. I don't think I have anything negative to say about the N7, I don't think the lack of camera is a problem and for £160 for the 16gb you can't go wrong.
In terms of owning an N7 and an N4, I plan on selling my SIII and buying the N4 on release day, reason being they both provide different functions. I love my N7 for usage at home, browsing the internet, playing games etc. but I don't take it with me everywhere, that's what I use my phone for! If I'm leaving the house for uni or just generally going out I'll always have my phone on me and most of the time leave my N7 at home, but when I'm taking my N7 with me it means that my phone battery will last 3 times longer
So I reckon that owning both is pretty reasonable, especially considering you can pick up both for around the same price as a regular smartphone or tablet, or even less than our fruit based friend.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for this post! Exactly what I plan to do when I get the Nexus 4.

I found that the Nexus 7 was horrible for browsing compared to my ipad 3, which I sold, and my tab 10.1 before that. So, don't take my word or the Nexus 7 lovers word at face value. You have to decide which camp you are in.

jrush4 said:
In terms of owning an N7 and an N4, I plan on selling my SIII and buying the N4 on release day, reason being they both provide different functions. I love my N7 for usage at home, browsing the internet, playing games etc. .
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What about watching video such as Netflix. Does it strain your eyes on the Nexus 7?
And I just realized this is probably in the wrong forum, sorry mods!

Skullpuck said:
What about watching video such as Netflix. Does it strain your eyes on the Nexus 7?
And I just realized this is probably in the wrong forum, sorry mods!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, I got no problem watching Netflix or videos on the Nexus 7 and it doesn't strain my eyes.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
But browsing wise, like Tomatoes8 said, the performance of Chrome on Nexus 7 is really bad, so use Dolphin or flash the AOSP browser instead of Chrome.

sh0td0wn said:
Well, I got no problem watching Netflix or videos on the Nexus 7 and it doesn't strain my eyes.
But browsing wise, like Tomatoes8 said, the performance of Chrome on Nexus 7 is really bad, so use Dolphin or flash the AOSP browser instead of Chrome.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wow that looks really nice and quite large. I thought the Nexus 7 would be a bit smaller than that.
Do you have a reference point like a penny or something or maybe show your hands holding it so I can see what the real estate is like?
Thanks!

Skullpuck said:
What about watching video such as Netflix. Does it strain your eyes on the Nexus 7?
And I just realized this is probably in the wrong forum, sorry mods!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I suggest that you use your TV and Monitor knowledge.
How much better is a 40 inch TV compared to a 32 inch TV to you? If you answer not much, point for the Nexus 7. If you answer it is like night and day, go for the Nexus 10 or Surface pro.
Is working on your desktop monitor way better than working on your laptop(this is taking into account size only)? Or do you plug in your desktop to your HDTV because your 23 inch monitor is too small? If you answer yes, then Nexus 10 because you are a size whore.
If you are just as comfortable working on your laptop at home when you have a nice big all in one desktop collecting dust, then you are not a size whore and will make due with a Nexus 7 and receive the portability benefits.

Tomatoes8 said:
I suggest that you use your TV and Monitor knowledge.
How much better is a 40 inch TV compared to a 32 inch TV to you? If you answer not much, point for the Nexus 7. If you answer it is like night and day, go for the Nexus 10 or Surface pro.
Is working on your desktop monitor way better than working on your laptop(this is taking into account size only)? Or do you plug in your desktop to your HDTV because your 23 inch monitor is too small? If you answer yes, then Nexus 10 because you are a size whore.
If you are just as comfortable working on your laptop at home when you have a nice big all in one desktop collecting dust, then you are not a size whore and will make due with a Nexus 7 and receive the portability benefits.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have a desktop with 3 large monitors and I remote desktop into my work laptop because of the screen size...
... I'm a size whore.

I am a Galaxy Nexus user, and I plan to upgrade to the N4 as soon as I can get one here in China.
I had a Sony Tablet S that I really enjoyed. When the N7 was released this summer, I sold my Tablet S and bought the N7 with a solid chunk of cash left over.
For me, going from the 9+" screen to the 7" screen was surprisingly satisfying. I find the N7 to be the perfect size. It's great for browsing, reading, and watching videos, at least for me. I love being able to comfortably use it with one hand, and it's super portable. It's perfect on a plane or train, and it's the only device I touch when I'm at home.
My phone is what I have with me whenever I'm out though. If I have a meeting, when I'm running around the office, or when I'm out partying on the weekends,I always have my phone. So I think the combo is ideal. I haven't really been tempted by the N10 because I already know I don't prefer that size.
I did debate getting a Note 2 to replace the two devices, but at the price you can get them for, why not have both, with a tablet that has even more screen real estate? And, as was mentioned, my battery on each device lasts much longer when they're complementing each other.
I will admit that I wondered if the two devices would be redundant when I bought the N7 this summer, but it hasn't turned out to be the case at all. I love having both.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

sh0td0wn said:
Well, I got no problem watching Netflix or videos on the Nexus 7 and it doesn't strain my eyes.
But browsing wise, like Tomatoes8 said, the performance of Chrome on Nexus 7 is really bad, so use Dolphin or flash the AOSP browser instead of Chrome.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I used Boat Browser which performs great on the Nexus 7. I just found it too small and had to increase the font size. But after increasing the font size, the Verge ran like crap. I tried dolphin and boat browser and it was the same story. Everything worked fine except for the Verge though. It could be that they are such Apple shills that they purposely designed the web page to run like crap on Android though. I wouldn't put it past them. lol

Skullpuck said:
What about watching video such as Netflix. Does it strain your eyes on the Nexus 7?
And I just realized this is probably in the wrong forum, sorry mods!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I watch Netflix and HBO Go on my N7 almost nightly, and I have no problem.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

[Q] Honesty and Owers Only Please...

I'm taking the jump into getting an Android tablet, and with the price difference between the Nexus 7 and Nexus 10 not being THAT much, i'm torn between the two.
I currently have the Samsung Galaxy S3 and use it to an inch of it's potential so to speak. Mod it, break it, mod it some more, game, wireless controlling, and of course the usual things you do with a phone.
What i am currently researching is the potential to use it as a audio controller to map beats, on-the-fly effects, and recording/sampling/looping with my Guitar and Mic. I understand the iPad's do lead in this technology due to the connector to allow for a multiple of inputs. But, excusing profanity... FnCK Apple.
I need real users to tell me honestly, and truthfully the capabilities they know by first hand experience, and what they have read for me to make a decision on these two devices. I understand this is somewhat opening the can of worms that is Android, so please keep it simple and brief. This is a hard decision!
Thank you for your times guys,
Steve.

this is the nexus 10 subforum.. In here ppl will tell you to buy the nexus 10.. I bet you post in the Nexus 7 subforum as well... lol
easy choice for me. I'd never buy a 7 inch tablet no matter how good it is.

There are other threads like this too...Do what you want. If you are going to use it for web, movies, magazine, I'd say go for the 10...if you want a portable E-reader go for the 7. Go to the store and try the 7 and a different 10 inch tablet to see how they feel for you.

I have a gs3 as well and had a nexus 7. The screen size isn't that much of a difference to justify it in the nexus 7 area. The nexus 10 is rly great and works great. Also 10 in screen is just great when you have a larger phone like you and I.
Sent from my SCH-I535 using xda app-developers app

You know that's very true. I have a big phone, so to get the most out of either tablet, i guess screen size (Due to the S3 being a big phone) is actually important. I've never actually seen the Nexus 10 tab up close but i'm guessing i'm going to sex wee some what. Does this thing really fly?

I have a N7 and an iPad 1 now and wanted to upgrade the iPad but am moving away from apple.
The two sized devices sort of have separate use-cases. The larger device sits on my coffee table for quick surfing and email checks while the n7 is always in my bag. I travel constantly and there are many times I need to look something up on the web/calendar/email when I have enough time to not have to use my phone but don't want to pull out my laptop....
Think about where/how you are going to use it (does it need to be REALLY portable or not).
My n10 is due to be delivered Monday, but I have been using the n7 since launch and am very happy with it.

I have ZERO musical experience with EITHER device.
However I own them BOTH (the 7 and the 10) and I'm telling you right now that if you're even remotely torn between the two - GET THE 10.
All you need to do is SEE IT to know. Here is my "Nexii" picture:
https://plus.google.com/116992953847984037990/posts/MXDqFkfsHPq
The 7 is on the left - see what I mean?

Yes, i see exactly. I'd be using it to read music off it as well so the size of the N7 does seem just that little bit small. The N10 seems pretty perfect to sit on my book stand as well! Specially with the crazy resolution of the device things will be crystal clear even with the file being fully shown and not zoomed in. Right now - I think the N10 is winning this race!

I'm in a similar dilemma...for your purpose, reading music I think its a no brainer. The picture above says it all, N10 is the clear winner. I'm still not sure if I'm keeping the N10. I'm definitely buying one once its released at Walmart. The N7 is an awesome device and for its size alone is why I think it suits my needs better but until I have the N10 I won't know.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using XDA Premium HD app

So i have made the decision to go with the Nexus 10. If the hardware specs were swapped around, i would still go for the Nexus 10. I'm wanting a tablet that was going to last at least it's warranty, wasn't going to go "out dated". I feel the screen specifically will be the benchmark for future tablets. That and i don't think there's any reason to go any higher on the resolution part, and i'm picky!
Thank you for the few on XDA that gave me some truly valid input! But i'm now plagued with "Out of Stock" on google. I will have my Nexten!
Stevan

I have both.
Nexus 10:
PROS:
- You can surf the web like your computer does 100% all the time. (ex: you don't need tapatalk for this forum, I use it in the nexus 7).
- Everysingle Google app it's better IMO. They use the Tablet version, while the Nexus 7 uses modified smartphone versions.
- Screen it's out of this world and has better sensitivity (read below).
- This probably nobody said it before: Nexus 7 lacks good sensitivity in shorter distances. I really like to draw in my tablet, I have a Dagi Stylus and it works like a charm in both tablets. But when I try to draw like 1cm. lines in the nexus 7 (or simply details) it doesn't work, you gotta always zoom in, which some times in unpleasant. If you don't zoom in it draws nothing or like a pixel so it's like there is a longer detection threshold or something (can be the software also, idk). All this in "Sketchbook PRO" app.
- Sketchbook PRO lags a lot in the Nexus 7 and seems not really optimized at least, IDK (it gets worse as you add more layers and more detail to my image). In the other hand it flies in my Nexus 10 even drawing pixels (x2) it seems fluid and the stylus works great. (You can't change the canvas size in sketchbook PRO, it's always 2560x1504 I think). It's way easier to work in tiny distances when I bought my Nexus 10 it was one of the first things I tried since it was so much fail in the Nexus 7. See in the Sketch I did the morning it arrived without too much efford without having to Zoom in and zoom out to draw some random lines of grass to add some noise to the ground.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
- Battery seems similar to me (I usually don't play anything in my tablets).
- Sound it WAY WAY WAY better, you can feel the sounds coming in diferent directions.
- Whatever they said I love all the design all around.
- Reading documents it's 100% reliable in the Nexus 10 and sometimes feels short in the Nexus 7 as not all of your doucments are formatted for the screen, you may not be able to read wide PDF's in the Nexus 7 confortably. Nexus 10 works for everything. Which for me was one the most importan features of the tablet.
- Overall seems faster in the OS than the Nexus 7 and faster in this games also: Final fantasy III, Chaos rings.
- You got a rear camera (which I'll never use).
- You a rear camera LED (which I'll frequently use as a light), with a switch widget.
CONS:
- It's heavier and after one hour of holding it you can feel it. Like your hands feel really tired.
- It's wider so you must use it like a tray (90% of the time you will hold it as a tray). Sucks.
- It's bigger and I feel discouraged to take it with me everywhere. I don't think I would take it to my work.
- Some smartphone optimized apps feels like "decent" in the Nexus 7 in the Nexus 10 they look horrible. And there's several of them.
- Some apps crash the tablet. There's several of them also.
- Charging is slow.
- As you read with the lights off, the Nexus 10 and his Bigger screen throws a sillion more light into your eyes, result: Eyes more tired.
- No Tegra 3 optimized games.
- No $20 bucks for apps.
Nexus 7:
PROS:
- Light as a feather, I never got tired of holding it in my hand. Super confortable.
- Perfect wide. There's so many positions to hold it.
- Size and weight feels perfect for carrying around, sometime in the future I may just get a Nokia 3310 and a Nexus 7 with 3g.
- Smartphone apps don't feel that weird.
- Had just a couple of crashes in 2 months. One being after drwaing like 2 hours in Sketchbook, I was sooo pissed.
- Charging is decent.
- Everygame android game in earth should work on this Tegra 3 baby.
- Cheap as hell. Feels like I'm robbing the store.
- For this price it's more premium than the most premium.
- Screen it's really good, you can barely barely see the pixels here.
- It's stylish and cool.
- Size and price it's the perfect balanced between everything. You sacrifice a little functionality for moviility, etc. 10" tablets can do this as well if you dare.
- When I bought it I got $20 bucks for google play apps (idk if that exist anymore).
CONS:
- Cannot 100% replace your laptop web surfing. Screen falls short sometimes.
- Bad screen sensitivity (or maybe bad optimized app, read above).
- Batterys seems similar to me.
- Average / just decent sound. (maybe bad sometimes)
- Several of them came with screen defects (mine included), it's not really a big problem, but WTF.
- As I said, Google apps use a slighly smartphone modified apps for the nexus 7, in the other hand, for the Nexus 10 they use the tablet app.
- Reading bad optimized documents can be a pain in the a** (usually pdf's with wide white colums at the sides which are really really common), with infinite zooming panning, etcetera. If your document has no ilustrations you can work around it, but with them no.
Overall I use more the Nexus 10. Nexus 7 seems excellent for short travels and stuff like that etcetera. But for me in day to day use at home. No doubt. I preffer the big one.

I am saying that as a HAPPY Nexus 10 owner, if you're using this for music creation/editing purposes, make sure first that they have applications that fit your needs on the google play store. As much as I love android, its gaming selection, the awesome ability to root your device, etc., I do admit Apple does have a good amount of apps we don't yet or ever will get, and I know on the Mac side of things Media creation of ANY type is usually better than PC, and I also say that as a PC user and general Anti-Apple person. So if music creation/editing is your #1 concern, you might just have to bite the bullet. Or the Apple.

[Q] Now it's 2014 is the Nexus 10 still worth buying?

Hi,
I've been wanting a tablet for a while now, and I have my eye on the Nexus 10, it's reasonably priced, and has been since it came out, it has an amazing display etc. etc.
But it's really quite old now, I've looked around and there's very much mixed views, I know exactly what I want from a tablet, and I was wondering if the Nexus 10 would be perfectly fine. I know the 2nd Gen. version is supposed to be coming out soon, but if this tablet does everything and want and is cheaper, what's the point in buying the newer one?
Anyway, basically I want a tablet that can easily to the following things:
Browse the internet
Watch movies
Browse Facebook
Be easily able to use Instagram
Easily able to use Snap Chat
Play games
Easily customisable (eg. Home screen backgrounds)
Have a decent front a back back camera
Updates to the latest version of android as soon as it's released
Feels good in the hand
Looks pretty good
Decent battery life
I'm pretty sure the Nexus 10 should be fine for most if not all of this, but I thought I'd check. One thing I think might help if you think I could get a better tablet for a decent price (preferably no more than £300) is that I really like the shape on the Nexus 10, but I really hate the shape of the Nexus 7. I don't know why, it's just one if those things I guess.
Thank you

Tbh I was in the same predicament as you a couple of months ago. I wanted a tablet for pretty much the same reasons as u as I'm working away from home quite often.
I've already got a Nexus 5 purely for stock android, timely updates and a great device at a great price so I thought I'd check out the Nexus 10 first. I stumbled across Expansys selling the 32gb model for £255 whereas it was still down as £390 on the playstore and I'm pleased to say I'm chuffed with my purchase. Even the tab is quite old in tech terms it's still fast, the screen is amazing and I got 4.4.3 automatically yday.
I rooted both my devices today too so that's only improved the experience. I would recommended getting the 32gb to be on the safe side but unfortunately Expansys only seem to stock the 16gb version now. However ebays worth a look, I got my dad a mint 32gb nexus 10 with a case for £260.
Sent from my Nexus 10 using Tapatalk 2

Hi,
For everything you're saying Nexus 10 is a beast and you'll be very happy with your acquisition. Let me specify a little more on each topic:
Browse the internet
Nexus 10 has a reasonably good internet browsing ability, as I'm often far from my laptop I'm using it most of time. In lastest updates Chrome Beta has showed some issues (white screen with nothing, reoppening the app will fix it), but I think soon an update will be released to fix it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Watch movies
Front facing speakers and a 2K (qHD) screen, you'll not be disappointed. Watched lots of movies and animes in it already, must say it's a great experience.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Browse Facebook
There's a dedicated Facebook app, but with the 10" screen you can set up web browser Facebook to show up as desktop, it works very good. I'm not a Facebook fanatic, so I don't use it too much, however every time I use it, it's not bad.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Be easily able to use Instagram/Easily able to use Snap Chat/Have a decent front and back camera
I put those 3 together for one reason. Tablets were not born to take pictures, while the camera isn't bad, you don't have a good either. This video was recorded using the front facing camera:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKjZFW4p9z0
With my experience, the pictures of back facing seem a little whiteish, personally I don't like it too much... Here's an example:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
(Full Resolution:
Never used those two apps on the other hand, but I don't expect them to be too good on any tablet out there.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Play games
I have tons of games on mine xD. It's very pleasant to play Dead Trigger 2 on such a high resolution screen, completed Katawa Shoujo Visual Novel on it (8 hours gameplay lol), also many others. While some games like Modern Combat 4 and NOVA 3 were downscaled, but most games run pretty well and have good resolution. Just keep in mind low resolution games will look horrible, due to big screen and huge screen resolution
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Easily customisable (eg. Home screen backgrounds)
Man, you're on Android. You can customize anything you want. The way you want. If you don't like Stock Homescreen, then download another one (I, for example, use NOVA Launcher, because it's the one that I like at most). If you want a ridiculously easy app to customize, then use Themer .
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Updates to the latest version of android as soon as it's released
Soon the Android update policy will end for Nexus 10, but the next update is very likely to arrive on Nexus as soon as it will be released. Also it has a great dev support, so it's very likely we will continue to have updates for a long time
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Feels good in the hand
Yes it feels. I got a case (Poetic Case + keyboard) and with it the feel is good too.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Looks pretty good
Very subjective matter, I like the design. Don't know if you'd like, just search for pics in the net hahaha!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Decent battery life
9,000mAh battery. I get 4-5 hours screen on time easily! With moderate usage, with heavier usage I get 3h30min-4hours usage . So it's an amazing battery life.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
~Lord

From what I read a kindle fire hdx would better suit your needs.
Best display around. Snapdragon 800. Nothing more to say.
The display outclass nexus display and is better then iPad air.
Envoyé de mon MI 2S en utilisant Tapatalk

I second @XxLordxX
Also. The nexus 10 has one of the best if not the best gpu and awesome roms and kernels to make it even better.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA Free mobile app

Khaon said:
From what I read a kindle fire hdx would better suit your needs.
Best display around. Snapdragon 800. Nothing more to say.
The display outclass nexus display and is better then iPad air.
Envoyé de mon MI 2S en utilisant Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've used a fire.. dont know on the HDX, the its not very configureable. Its not a real droid.. its a neutered. I'd rather have a true droid than that monstrosity I have (I own a first gen kindle fire)

scythefwd said:
I've used a fire.. dont know on the HDX, the its not very configureable. Its not a real droid.. its a neutered. I'd rather have a true droid than that monstrosity I have (I own a first gen kindle fire)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi,
AFAIK Kindle Fire HDX also run FireOS, which is the customized version of Android by Amazon, so I don't think you'll have something too different from your current Fire. I'm not an expert on FireOS though, the best would be to find some reviews and videos about it, then you'd have a good idea of what you'd get .
Usually I read from Android Authority, here's their tablet review:
http://www.androidauthority.com/kindle-fire-hdx-7-review-315172/
~Lord

XxLordxX said:
Hi,
AFAIK Kindle Fire HDX also run FireOS, which is the customized version of Android by Amazon, so I don't think you'll have something too different from your current Fire. I'm not an expert on FireOS though, the best would be to find some reviews and videos about it, then you'd have a good idea of what you'd get .
Usually I read from Android Authority, here's their tablet review:
http://www.androidauthority.com/kindle-fire-hdx-7-review-315172/
~Lord
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
its customized.. the same way mac is a customized version of next step. without root, which breaks things, you cannot do much to your desktop, very little configuration is available to the system, no play store and if you sideload theres a good chance it wont work (like chrome).

returned...

Got it from Bestbuy, after couple days playing with it, return it....First thing store manager told me "you also returning?" I said yeah why...he said "many are returning"..I told him I did not surprised...
Good luck with your new $400+ Nexus 9.. For me that device worth less than $300

I waw going to also, but the LRX210 update saved it from being returned. No build quality issue with mind either except for very little light leakage from corners

cool story bro

,. OK Looney
Sent from my SHIELD Tablet using Tapatalk

Returned mine today at BB. It's a fine tablet, but when HTC sold a few at $250, I couldn't justify keeping it. BB had a few Google displays up, but no mention of a N9 was found.

I was shocked at the 250 price tag. I get a discount through my employer (5% above cost) and paid about the same amount. If I had paid full price for this .... I'd be pissed. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy it ... Sadly, its better quality than the new iPad air.

? There's another tablet with the features the N9 come with for cheaper? What tablet is that? I paid 400 for mine and have no regrets.

jazzespresso said:
Got it from Bestbuy, after couple days playing with it, return it....First thing store manager told me "you also returning?" I said yeah why...he said "many are returning"..I told him I did not surprised...
Good luck with your new $400+ Nexus 9.. For me that device worth less than $300
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
!

Mmmmmm cookies

richii0207 said:
? There's another tablet with the features the N9 come with for cheaper? What tablet is that? I paid 400 for mine and have no regrets.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes there is.

richii0207 said:
? There's another tablet with the features the N9 come with for cheaper? What tablet is that? I paid 400 for mine and have no regrets.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yea Shield tablet.
better in so many ways its 16:9 with no back light issues.
Better thermal design to cope with k1 temps, expandable storage.
HDMI out with game mode to remove black bars.
PC game streaming, GPU accelerated stylus.
Nvidia optimised to take full advantage of hardware unlike Google.
Sent from my Nexus S using xda premium

demo23019 said:
Yea Shield tablet.
better in so many ways its 16:9 with no back light issues.
Better thermal design to cope with k1 temps, expandable storage.
HDMI out with game mode to remove black bars.
PC game streaming, GPU accelerated stylus.
Nvidia optimised to take full advantage of hardware unlike Google.
Sent from my Nexus S using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Enjoy your Shield. I don't need to justify my purchase.

demo23019 said:
Yea Shield tablet.
better in so many ways its 16:9 with no back light issues.
Better thermal design to cope with k1 temps, expandable storage.
HDMI out with game mode to remove black bars.
PC game streaming, GPU accelerated stylus.
Nvidia optimised to take full advantage of hardware unlike Google.
Sent from my Nexus S using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Don't forget about the shields ****ty wifi quality and development community...but other than that...its an awesome tablet :good:

demo23019 said:
Yea Shield tablet.
better in so many ways its 16:9 with no back light issues.
Better thermal design to cope with k1 temps, expandable storage.
HDMI out with game mode to remove black bars.
PC game streaming, GPU accelerated stylus.
Nvidia optimised to take full advantage of hardware unlike Google.
Sent from my Nexus S using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It is a great tablet but.
1 - 16:9? I want a 4:3 tablet, and not a 7/8 inch one. I use it more for productivity than media.
2 - It's not "better thermal design". It's a 32 bit vs 64 bit cpu. A snapdragon 801 also heats less. Is it better than the K1 64bit? The Nexus is a different beast when it comes to CPU, and of course it will heat up and it will dissipate more in the form of heat. It's not a problem, it's by design. It will surely get even better in the future with the next iterations, but it is already a different beast than any 32bit cpu.
3- Expandable storage is not an issue for me ATM. the 32G internal are enough and OTG work out of the box in case I want to carry a few HD movies in an HD or usb stick in long trips.
4- Never, ever, used HDMI out of my phone or tablets. I have a chromecast and it's more than enough for my usage.
5- Nvidia optimised will be great until nvidia stops supporting the device and you have to rely on the dev community of XDA. I still love the Xperia phones I had in the past, but I learned that the hard way and once you go Nexus you simply can't go back to Sony/LG/whatever without feeling your making a bad decision.
So yeah, you might like your Shield, and if you're a gamer, then it's a great choice. Just don't tell people that they are better served with it than the N9, because it will depend on what use it'll get.
This N9 has it's flaws, for sure. The build quality (the QC, to be precise) is horrible. But if you are like me and you want your tablet to be a replacement for a small laptop, to place it with your BT keyboard in a stand at our work place right next to your company desktop so you can access your cloud docs, your help favorites, to have chrome open dozens of IBM publib pages and not having to scroll 5234905723 times to see the whole page in your 8'' 16:9 screen, to use it as a work tool first and only then as a home media gadget, then you have two choices in the market: this Nexus or an Ipad. And it comes down to what ecosystem you prefer.

Sorry to be a stickler for details but the shield has a 16:10 aspect ratio @ 1920x1200.
Both versions of the Nexus 7 are also 16:10.
Sent from my SHIELD Tablet using XDA Free mobile app

demo23019 said:
Yea Shield tablet.
better in so many ways its 16:9 with no back light issues.
Better thermal design to cope with k1 temps, expandable storage.
HDMI out with game mode to remove black bars.
PC game streaming, GPU accelerated stylus.
Nvidia optimised to take full advantage of hardware unlike Google.
Sent from my Nexus S using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I had the shield and shield tablet and sold both. The only reason I wanted the tablet was for the half life 2 and portal. However, the tablet was so buggy I ditched it.
Wi-Fi was absolutely terrible. Constant lockups. The screen just felt small. waking up from sleep was hit or miss. For the price, it wasn't worth it.
I have had my nexus 9 from day 1 and I love it. I feel blessed that I haven't had the problems others have, but the speed and screen ratio is just so worth it. My girlfriend is begging me to buy her one now
I just hope they bring the half life series over instead of keeping it a shield exclusive.
Sent from my Nexus 9 using XDA Free mobile app

jazzespresso said:
Got it from Bestbuy, after couple days playing with it, return it....First thing store manager told me "you also returning?" I said yeah why...he said "many are returning"..I told him I did not surprised...
Good luck with your new $400+ Nexus 9.. For me that device worth less than $300
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why is this post still in here. Adds absolutely nothing to the forum

KinetiClutch said:
Why is this post still in here. Adds absolutely nothing to the forum
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
In XDA community, we do share opinions as part of discussion, if you have problem with that, maybe you should not been hanging out here. I am a nexus fan (have noth N7 2nd gen and Nexus 5), I was quite disappointed with newest N9, forgot about overpriced, but many other reasons.

jazzespresso said:
In XDA community, we do share opinions as part of discussion, if you have problem with that, maybe you should not been hanging out here. I am a nexus fan (have noth N7 2nd gen and Nexus 5), I was quite disappointed with newest N9, forgot about overpriced, but many other reasons.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah I was aware these were made constructively...
Not just some pointless post, which could have been added to the other opinion posts. Looking forward to not reading more of your posts in the N9 section, enjoy the shield.

Stresa said:
Sorry to be a stickler for details but the shield has a 16:10 aspect ratio @ 1920x1200.
Both versions of the Nexus 7 are also 16:10.
Sent from my SHIELD Tablet using XDA Free mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Was a Typo I was thinking about game mode and nexus 7 is irrelevant.
richii0207 said:
Enjoy your Shield. I don't need to justify my purchase.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Then dont ask the question then if you don't want to here an answer.
I don't personally own a shield so my opinion isn't based on fanboyism
I was done with Google subpar releases long time ago. And big whoop you get exclusive updates, well now you're paying a premium for it.
Also like how everyone bashed apple for using 4:3 on their ipads but now that it's Google doing it, its OK.
Sent from my Nexus S using xda premium