[Q] Honesty and Owers Only Please... - Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm taking the jump into getting an Android tablet, and with the price difference between the Nexus 7 and Nexus 10 not being THAT much, i'm torn between the two.
I currently have the Samsung Galaxy S3 and use it to an inch of it's potential so to speak. Mod it, break it, mod it some more, game, wireless controlling, and of course the usual things you do with a phone.
What i am currently researching is the potential to use it as a audio controller to map beats, on-the-fly effects, and recording/sampling/looping with my Guitar and Mic. I understand the iPad's do lead in this technology due to the connector to allow for a multiple of inputs. But, excusing profanity... FnCK Apple.
I need real users to tell me honestly, and truthfully the capabilities they know by first hand experience, and what they have read for me to make a decision on these two devices. I understand this is somewhat opening the can of worms that is Android, so please keep it simple and brief. This is a hard decision!
Thank you for your times guys,
Steve.

this is the nexus 10 subforum.. In here ppl will tell you to buy the nexus 10.. I bet you post in the Nexus 7 subforum as well... lol
easy choice for me. I'd never buy a 7 inch tablet no matter how good it is.

There are other threads like this too...Do what you want. If you are going to use it for web, movies, magazine, I'd say go for the 10...if you want a portable E-reader go for the 7. Go to the store and try the 7 and a different 10 inch tablet to see how they feel for you.

I have a gs3 as well and had a nexus 7. The screen size isn't that much of a difference to justify it in the nexus 7 area. The nexus 10 is rly great and works great. Also 10 in screen is just great when you have a larger phone like you and I.
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You know that's very true. I have a big phone, so to get the most out of either tablet, i guess screen size (Due to the S3 being a big phone) is actually important. I've never actually seen the Nexus 10 tab up close but i'm guessing i'm going to sex wee some what. Does this thing really fly?

I have a N7 and an iPad 1 now and wanted to upgrade the iPad but am moving away from apple.
The two sized devices sort of have separate use-cases. The larger device sits on my coffee table for quick surfing and email checks while the n7 is always in my bag. I travel constantly and there are many times I need to look something up on the web/calendar/email when I have enough time to not have to use my phone but don't want to pull out my laptop....
Think about where/how you are going to use it (does it need to be REALLY portable or not).
My n10 is due to be delivered Monday, but I have been using the n7 since launch and am very happy with it.

I have ZERO musical experience with EITHER device.
However I own them BOTH (the 7 and the 10) and I'm telling you right now that if you're even remotely torn between the two - GET THE 10.
All you need to do is SEE IT to know. Here is my "Nexii" picture:
https://plus.google.com/116992953847984037990/posts/MXDqFkfsHPq
The 7 is on the left - see what I mean?

Yes, i see exactly. I'd be using it to read music off it as well so the size of the N7 does seem just that little bit small. The N10 seems pretty perfect to sit on my book stand as well! Specially with the crazy resolution of the device things will be crystal clear even with the file being fully shown and not zoomed in. Right now - I think the N10 is winning this race!

I'm in a similar dilemma...for your purpose, reading music I think its a no brainer. The picture above says it all, N10 is the clear winner. I'm still not sure if I'm keeping the N10. I'm definitely buying one once its released at Walmart. The N7 is an awesome device and for its size alone is why I think it suits my needs better but until I have the N10 I won't know.
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So i have made the decision to go with the Nexus 10. If the hardware specs were swapped around, i would still go for the Nexus 10. I'm wanting a tablet that was going to last at least it's warranty, wasn't going to go "out dated". I feel the screen specifically will be the benchmark for future tablets. That and i don't think there's any reason to go any higher on the resolution part, and i'm picky!
Thank you for the few on XDA that gave me some truly valid input! But i'm now plagued with "Out of Stock" on google. I will have my Nexten!
Stevan

I have both.
Nexus 10:
PROS:
- You can surf the web like your computer does 100% all the time. (ex: you don't need tapatalk for this forum, I use it in the nexus 7).
- Everysingle Google app it's better IMO. They use the Tablet version, while the Nexus 7 uses modified smartphone versions.
- Screen it's out of this world and has better sensitivity (read below).
- This probably nobody said it before: Nexus 7 lacks good sensitivity in shorter distances. I really like to draw in my tablet, I have a Dagi Stylus and it works like a charm in both tablets. But when I try to draw like 1cm. lines in the nexus 7 (or simply details) it doesn't work, you gotta always zoom in, which some times in unpleasant. If you don't zoom in it draws nothing or like a pixel so it's like there is a longer detection threshold or something (can be the software also, idk). All this in "Sketchbook PRO" app.
- Sketchbook PRO lags a lot in the Nexus 7 and seems not really optimized at least, IDK (it gets worse as you add more layers and more detail to my image). In the other hand it flies in my Nexus 10 even drawing pixels (x2) it seems fluid and the stylus works great. (You can't change the canvas size in sketchbook PRO, it's always 2560x1504 I think). It's way easier to work in tiny distances when I bought my Nexus 10 it was one of the first things I tried since it was so much fail in the Nexus 7. See in the Sketch I did the morning it arrived without too much efford without having to Zoom in and zoom out to draw some random lines of grass to add some noise to the ground.
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- Battery seems similar to me (I usually don't play anything in my tablets).
- Sound it WAY WAY WAY better, you can feel the sounds coming in diferent directions.
- Whatever they said I love all the design all around.
- Reading documents it's 100% reliable in the Nexus 10 and sometimes feels short in the Nexus 7 as not all of your doucments are formatted for the screen, you may not be able to read wide PDF's in the Nexus 7 confortably. Nexus 10 works for everything. Which for me was one the most importan features of the tablet.
- Overall seems faster in the OS than the Nexus 7 and faster in this games also: Final fantasy III, Chaos rings.
- You got a rear camera (which I'll never use).
- You a rear camera LED (which I'll frequently use as a light), with a switch widget.
CONS:
- It's heavier and after one hour of holding it you can feel it. Like your hands feel really tired.
- It's wider so you must use it like a tray (90% of the time you will hold it as a tray). Sucks.
- It's bigger and I feel discouraged to take it with me everywhere. I don't think I would take it to my work.
- Some smartphone optimized apps feels like "decent" in the Nexus 7 in the Nexus 10 they look horrible. And there's several of them.
- Some apps crash the tablet. There's several of them also.
- Charging is slow.
- As you read with the lights off, the Nexus 10 and his Bigger screen throws a sillion more light into your eyes, result: Eyes more tired.
- No Tegra 3 optimized games.
- No $20 bucks for apps.
Nexus 7:
PROS:
- Light as a feather, I never got tired of holding it in my hand. Super confortable.
- Perfect wide. There's so many positions to hold it.
- Size and weight feels perfect for carrying around, sometime in the future I may just get a Nokia 3310 and a Nexus 7 with 3g.
- Smartphone apps don't feel that weird.
- Had just a couple of crashes in 2 months. One being after drwaing like 2 hours in Sketchbook, I was sooo pissed.
- Charging is decent.
- Everygame android game in earth should work on this Tegra 3 baby.
- Cheap as hell. Feels like I'm robbing the store.
- For this price it's more premium than the most premium.
- Screen it's really good, you can barely barely see the pixels here.
- It's stylish and cool.
- Size and price it's the perfect balanced between everything. You sacrifice a little functionality for moviility, etc. 10" tablets can do this as well if you dare.
- When I bought it I got $20 bucks for google play apps (idk if that exist anymore).
CONS:
- Cannot 100% replace your laptop web surfing. Screen falls short sometimes.
- Bad screen sensitivity (or maybe bad optimized app, read above).
- Batterys seems similar to me.
- Average / just decent sound. (maybe bad sometimes)
- Several of them came with screen defects (mine included), it's not really a big problem, but WTF.
- As I said, Google apps use a slighly smartphone modified apps for the nexus 7, in the other hand, for the Nexus 10 they use the tablet app.
- Reading bad optimized documents can be a pain in the a** (usually pdf's with wide white colums at the sides which are really really common), with infinite zooming panning, etcetera. If your document has no ilustrations you can work around it, but with them no.
Overall I use more the Nexus 10. Nexus 7 seems excellent for short travels and stuff like that etcetera. But for me in day to day use at home. No doubt. I preffer the big one.

I am saying that as a HAPPY Nexus 10 owner, if you're using this for music creation/editing purposes, make sure first that they have applications that fit your needs on the google play store. As much as I love android, its gaming selection, the awesome ability to root your device, etc., I do admit Apple does have a good amount of apps we don't yet or ever will get, and I know on the Mac side of things Media creation of ANY type is usually better than PC, and I also say that as a PC user and general Anti-Apple person. So if music creation/editing is your #1 concern, you might just have to bite the bullet. Or the Apple.

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So unfair.

This is just so unfair.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAbsmHMAhrQ&feature=player_embedded
Uhhhmm... Why?
what is so unfair?
it works and does the same as the phone version, just bigger
Maybe he meant unfair because we cant get a decent FW for our phones because Samsung is focusing on the tablet.
It is really a strange feeling. Besides the size difference, I caught myself with envy that my phone could do the same thing, just being smaller.
But in fact it can't, because we never get the software.
Paulo
so what.. remember it has drawbacks too..
1. propriatary adapter instead of true hd socket.
2. no removeable replaceable battery..i like having spare batteries ready.
3. strange resolutin 1024x600
4. no super oled screen. .supposedly bad viewing angle support.
5. expensive.. will see price when carriers pick it up
there's a bigger chance i'll pick up one of these
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.44673
instead of the Tab, just because of price/size matters
it might not be as good as the Tab, and not even close to our phone, but it's great for size and compatibility to runt he same apps we run on our phones at a larger screen
I think of it as a really good backup of my stuff on the SGS phone, in case crap happens and i need to restore all the info back quickly
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Processor: Telechips TCC8902
CPU Frequency: 720MHz ARM11
Ram: 256M DDR2 RAM
Flash: 2GB
External memory: Support micro SD/TF card up to 32GB
Display: 7" TFT LCD with resistance screen touch
Resolution: WVGA 800*480-pixel resolution
Touch Control: Full size touch operation, sliding menu, functional icon dragging
Orientation Sensors: With accelerometer, automatic steering display screen
Network: IEEE802.11b/g Wi-Fi network connection
Camera: Built-in 300K Pixels camera
Microphone: Built-in
Speaker: Built-in 1 speaker
Slots: 1 * TF card (support up to 32G)
1 * 3.5mm earphone
1 * Mini USB
1 * HDMI Out (support 1080P HDMI TV out)
1 * Power supply
Support Video Formats: MPEG1/MPEG2/WMV9/MPEG4-SP/ASF/DIVX/H.263/H.264/RMVB/MOV/MKV/TS/FLV
Support Audio Formats: WMA/MP3/WAV/OOG/AAC/EAAC
Support Picture Formats: JPG/GIF/BMP/PNG
Language: Support for display of multiple languages and characters simultaneously
Battery: Built-in 3000mAh Lithium battery (manufacturer rated)
Input/Output Adapter: Input: 100-240V (EU plug)
Accessories: 1 * AC power adapter
1 * Stylus
1 * USB host cable
1 * English user manual
Manufacturer's Warranty: - 12 Months excluding physical damages (see specifications for terms and details)
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Dimensions: 7.17 in x 4.53 in x 0.59 in (18.2 cm x 11.5 cm x 1.5 cm)
Weight: 12.03 oz (341 g)
ppeccin said:
Maybe he meant unfair because we cant get a decent FW for our phones because Samsung is focusing on the tablet.
It is really a strange feeling. Besides the size difference, I caught myself with envy that my phone could do the same thing, just being smaller.
But in fact it can't, because we never get the software.
Paulo
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Alot of companies do this type of tatic of focuing all materials and personale on a new product development. i dont believe samsung does this and tries to allocate its resources equally....
These pure tablet PC's are the most overrated technology ever anyway..
Hybrids such as the Lenovo Ideapad U1 make more sense, because touchscreens don't provide good enough feedback for typing. I understand that pure touchscreen-exclusive tablets seem cool, but they are actually a step back in productivity, and ergonomics. And only a company which makes a puck mouse seem cool (and in reality, focuses on irrelevant design issues rather than real ones) could bring these into fashion..
Don't waste money on them, until they can at least modify the shape of the touch screen panel to provide proper tactile feedback (ie, surface changes or lumps).
Instead, just get a netbook or a convertible tablet...
the problem with Laptops/Tablets is the weight and poor battery life compared to the tablets
i have a laptop, and it sits at home 90% of the time because of that
instead my SGS has almost replace my laptop entirely, just missing a mouse and keyboard, then i'll be set
looking forward to Froyo, which already confirmed support for BT mouse+keyboards, yay!
I'm sorry, Allgamer, but I have to ask, why are you pushing the SGS so hard?
1) 2 weeks ago, you were claiming that you were a power user, who had to swap your mobile phone batteries once a day, you have a BT headset, which you probably need to charge once a day, and now, a bluetooth keyboard you'll need to charge every 2 or 3 days too? You have a problem with Hybrid battery life (of 5 to 8 hours), but no problems shutting down your mobile to swap batteries constantly?
2) We both know the SGS is awkward to hold (and hurts your wrist after a while), and you can't really lay it down on the table.
3) You complain about the weight, but, the U1 tablet weighs 700gm and the entire hybrid weighs 1.7kg. My CCNA book weighs 1.6 KG as reference. You are in your 20's I thought, and you are already having trouble carrying a book?
4) Power users need productivity, and the SGS is TOTALLY inefficient. One problem is screen size, which makes it difficult to perform many tasks efficiently.
Sorry, but your comments are certainly starting to raise red-flags. By the sounds of things, you either aren't being honest to yourself, are exaggerating your use as a power user, or are trying to make things difficult for yourself.
Tablets don't entirely make sense, but they do as convertible hybrids.. Smartphones make sense for some things, but I have serious trouble believing that "power users" are best suited to using a mobile.
Too big for my pocket. And if I can take that with me, I also can take my netbook.
It's not much bigger...
For gaming+TV it would rock. There is no TV-tuner built in?
Also I need possibilities to run openoffice on it, so I can use it for presentations...
rdenis said:
Finally someone called out this moron for his load of BS he keeps spewing - I'm guessing he's about 14 and gets beat up a lot..
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I wouldn't say that..
But it's the same effect I saw when selling Apple equipment. People become so involved with their devices, that they begin to take an unrealistic look at how good they REALLY are. Apple Mac Pro's are the perfect example.
* In general, the video cards being sold with the Mac Pro's are generations behind those available on PC's. But people love them.
* Some people also LOVED the Apple might mouse, despite the right button being near-impossible to click successfully, because they didn't realise the competition allowed scrolling left and right too.
* Over time, all OSX users seemed to have convinced themselves that Windows crashed every day (even if iPhoto was crashing right in front of them).
*It's the same effect which has convinced Linux users that UAC is more intrusive than PolicyKit (it's actually the opposite).
Either way, the tablet seems targeted at the gimmicky crowd. Their main benefit is casual browsing, and watching movies. But lets face it, touchscreens are still HORRIBLE for typing, and most of us would like to be able to chat to someone whilst watching a movie.
But that's just my thoughts.. Time will tell, but you can't fix the ergonomics issues with tablets, until they are at least bendable, the pixels on the screen can displace themselves forward or backwards (or simply change smooth to rough) or have a perfectly polished neural interface (but neural interfaces are still under heavy development)
Speaking of which... what happened to the flexible display I read about a prototype a year or two ago?
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1- i still do and i always carry a spare battery with me when i go out, that's how often i use the SGS phone, and i keep an extra spare in the car, for when the one i have runs out, and i need another spare to keep with me.
the BT headset doesn't get charge every day, battery life is quite good, only gets charge once every week or two depending on usage, i use the phone for online activities not for yapping
BT keyboard is just a convenient for typing faster, they are foldable, it shrinks down to a pda size, still fits in a pocket, they existed since the Palm times, what's what made the BT keyboard popular, battery life depend on how much you type on it. you won't be charging a BT keyboard as often as you would charge a BT headset.
2- no idea how you are holding it, but it works just the same, for typing with the on screen keyboard it's pretty natural, i even do it one handed when i'm busy with a drink on the other hand, it's not as quick as when you type with both thumbs, but it's doable for SMS and IM, definitely you wont want to type a long email with a single thumb
holding the phone for voice call will just be natural as well, like using any other phone, the only thing that bugs me is the proximity sensor, as it takes a split second to go back to the dialing pad screen, before you can switch to another application to look up for information meanwhile chatting with the customer
3- yes because i don't like to travel with bags, it has nothing to do with lifting weight it's just ruins the look of your shirt, it shifts the shirt to a side with the weight and it doesn't look good, you don't want to hang out with a lady or partying with buddies carrying a laptop/ipad/tablet around is just trouble (it can get beer in it, it can get stolen if you leave it on the side of the restaurant/bar/anyplace, you might forget it if the meeting is going so well and having too much fun, ladies will look at you like a geek, some nicer restaurant will throw you a bad eye for pulling out a laptop on the table, you go to a cinema with a laptop and pull it out they'll automatically think you are going to capture the movie, been there done that, not fun, it was totally stupid if you ask me, since when you can get a decent recording out of a laptop webcam? LOL )
all of that aside, when you pull out an iphone or the SGS, no one will complain to you, instead people would say WOW! can i see that, can i do this, can i play that, can i... you get the idea, it's totally 2 side of the spectrum
That's what Apple is selling, and that's what people like, non geeky devices that works, and Samsung is just riding the same wave.
Personally i don't care, i just want a device that is better than Windows crapile, and the combination of Samsung hardware + Android OS have done that for me.
If PalmOS was still around on a phone similar to SGS i'd have gone the PalmOS way instead, as the OS is much more polished, still buggy, but there are tons of Apps for it... too bad the company went under bought by HP, and trashed to the pages of history.
4- for me productivity means being able to get online and log on to servers anywhere i'm in, for documents we got ThinkFreeOffice which is sufficient for me, and i was able to convert my old Palm Doc To Go office to the Android version of Doc To Go. with the SGS i can hookup to all my different companies accounts (15+), and they will all each keep their own separate contact list, in Wincrap mobile it would have been a major mess, you can't have both personal and work accounts together, now that's efficiency for me.
same goes with IM, i can be online with all my email accounts and people can contact me all over, it's so easy, in Wincrap i had to use those jabber IMs to do the same and it was always disconnecting because it goes through jabber and it's not stable enough to make IM conversation a good experience as people always said i was offline when i was not.
Since i switched to SGS using the stock push email & IM, i've not had any problem, all my customers are happy, and when customers are happy, i'm happy.
Typing is decent with SGS, it can be better with a BT keyboard, too bad i can't use it yet until Froyo is out.
Browsing speed is amazing, i can look up stuff instantly, this is a great topic when having a coffe with friends and customers, i'm a forgetful person i depend on a reliable PDA for my work, so it's amazing for people when they see i can jump back and forth between apps in the phone to look up about the stuff i forget during our conversations and then continue with the meeting.
It is just so natural this phone, compared to all previous ones. the best thing is, it's small, it can go anywhere, even under water if you put it on one of those waterproof bags for PDAs available on DX
If being able to do everything you need to do at anywhere and at anytime is not efficient for you, then i don't know what is, but for me that is exactly the type of device i need to do my work, and hobby, and entertainment, and picture, and recording, and specially the GPS as i use it every day while i drive, my Speedo in the car is broken.
was trying to install some custom mods to the car and screwed up the speedo needle fuel tank needle is dead as well, good think it lights up when it runs low in gas.
All in all you don't need to believe me, but that is truly how magnificent this phone works for people that knows how to use it.
I give free lesson and consulting on how to use it and get the most out of it and people love it, as usual I'll extend my hand for anyone that needs help with the phone in the GTA area, just PM me to book for an appointment.
i carry the XDA App anyways, i use it all the time to check my PMs and forum topics when i'm idle
andrewluecke said:
I'm sorry, Allgamer, but I have to ask, why are you pushing the SGS so hard?
1) 2 weeks ago, you were claiming that you were a power user, who had to swap your mobile phone batteries once a day, you have a BT headset, which you probably need to charge once a day, and now, a bluetooth keyboard you'll need to charge every 2 or 3 days too? You have a problem with Hybrid battery life (of 5 to 8 hours), but no problems shutting down your mobile to swap batteries constantly?
2) We both know the SGS is awkward to hold (and hurts your wrist after a while), and you can't really lay it down on the table.
3) You complain about the weight, but, the U1 tablet weighs 700gm and the entire hybrid weighs 1.7kg. My CCNA book weighs 1.6 KG as reference. You are in your 20's I thought, and you are already having trouble carrying a book?
4) Power users need productivity, and the SGS is TOTALLY inefficient. One problem is screen size, which makes it difficult to perform many tasks efficiently.
Sorry, but your comments are certainly starting to raise red-flags. By the sounds of things, you either aren't being honest to yourself, are exaggerating your use as a power user, or are trying to make things difficult for yourself.
Tablets don't entirely make sense, but they do as convertible hybrids.. Smartphones make sense for some things, but I have serious trouble believing that "power users" are best suited to using a mobile.
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i have spare batteries too.. one i leave at work in case i forget.. i also use the external wall chargers.. the onese that go from purple to blue when charged... i have a couple of the g9 batteries i got from the samsung website and find they work even better than the g7 batteries..
I'll probably stick to my SGS and HP Elitebook 2730 tablet for when I need a larger display. With the extra battery slice on the latter I can easily rival the IPad's battery life yet do a heck of a lot more. It is heavier but I don't mind.
Given that Google says Froyo isn't designed for tablet use I'll probably hold off on the Tab either way though.
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funkeh said:
I've been browsing this forum for a little while now and found AllGamers threads very helpful indeed and it hasn't cost me a penny.
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that's usually a major thing i keep in mind, like to stick with FREE stuff, because i'm poor... well not exactly true, i just spend money like there's no tomorrow, buying whatever i feel like on the spot if it tickles my fancy.
so FREE helps a lot, LOL
99% of the apps i suggest from android market are free, as i try to save were i can, so that i can spend it else when when i go out drinking
Any further posts in this thread, by any member, that are not directly related to the thread topic (i.e. the relative merits of the Galaxy Tab vs. the regular SGS variants) will met with immediate disciplinary action.
Android looks relatively Vanilla on the Tab. Can someone use the tab firmware to cook a similar ROM for the Galaxy S?
Intratech said:
Android looks relatively Vanilla on the Tab. Can someone use the tab firmware to cook a similar ROM for the Galaxy S?
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I'm pretty sure once we (some one from XDA) can get their hands on a working unit, that might actually be possible
as the Tab shares so much in common with the SGS, except for the screen size
we might need to edit the Aspect Ratio / resolution on the Tabs ROM and we might be able to use on our phones
i like the Gmail app version running on the Tab, you can split the screen, we can't do it yet with our current version when in landscape mode
Outlook lovers will love that feature

The Galaxy Note Is The Most Versatile Mobile Device Ever.

Some people regard the Note as being too big to be used as a phone and too small to be used as a tablet. Of course, neither is true because the Note is the most versatile mobile device ever made. The days of having to own a small mobile phone where the screen is too small to be practicable and a tablet which is too big to carry around are over. Thank you Samsung.
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It,s probably the best thing ever done as yo it,s many functions. It,s a great smartphone light and thin with the biggest screen and amazing performance, it has an amazing battery life considering it's hugeness. It's a great ebook using aldiko, it's a fantastic media player for music, video and photos on it's own screen and on tv with hdmi. The quality of the camera is close yo the iphone 4s if not best. The video recording is simply great and of course it is better that any gps navigator you can buy since it positioning technology is the fastest i've ever seen. No doubt this phone is the gadget of the year
I do understand the critique; too large for a phone... too small for a tablet.
There is some truth to that. Let's admit it.
But... if you want a go anywhere device that does it all... The Note is for you.
I love it!
CGI_Ram said:
I do understand the critique; too large for a phone... too small for a tablet.
There is some truth to that. Let's admit it.
But... if you want a go anywhere device that does it all... The Note is for you.
I love it!
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For those critiques...
Show us a device that is big enough as a tablet and small enough to be a phone
I agree, but there is rumor the Galaxy S III will be buttonless in front and 5" which I think is just right:http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-ga...already-realistic-press-images-leak-23204379/
5.3" is slightly bit much.
One month in and still impressed with this phone. It really is the best mobile device I've ever used.
-Camera quality is excellent.
-Love using the stylus for notes and drawing/doodling.
-Bought a car mount and uses it as my main GPS since the screen is large. Due to GLONASS system, the satellite lockin is awesome, even indoor.
-Never use my Windows tablet anymore, since the Note can handle website and 720p flash contents without sweat.
-Became my sole ebook reader due to the resolution.
-This is the first phone where I felt the onscreen controller for games are actually very usable that I don't (always) need an extra bluetooth gamepad, due to the screen estate.
-Screen quality is amazing, but importantly the hardware can handle the HD MKV videos and have microSD support to store them. I am not ashamed to admit I take delight in the fact the screen quality and viewing angle literally destroy the iPhone 4S screen of peers.
-It's a long phone, my mouth does not even reach down to mic, but delighted people across the line can hear me fine and I'm not a loud mouth. (Though I am on custom rom which might improves the Phone app over stock.)
-With custom rom, it support OpenVPN which is a big deal for me.
I'm so glad I returned the Nexus for the Note. Only downside so far is no official 1700mhz support for T-Mobile , hope something can be done about it.
The size is a personal thing,for me its perfect for both as a phone and a tablet.
J had a Galaxy 10.1 it put a big stress on my arm,to use it I had to lift my arm all the time,so I gave it to my wife a Cello player.
Now with my GNote I sit for hours surfing the net without any stress since I just use my fingers to operate the entire device without lifting an arm,this is even more obvious when I play chess in long sessions,so can't be more happier with the size.
I agree. Its the best phone I have ever used. The huge screen is really an advantage in all aspects.
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I agree, but there is rumor the Galaxy S III will be buttonless in front and 5" which I think is just right:http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-ga...already-realistic-press-images-leak-23204379/
5.3" is slightly bit much.
One month in and still impressed with this phone. It really is the best mobile device I've ever used.
-Camera quality is excellent.
-Love using the stylus for notes and drawing/doodling.
-Bought a car mount and uses it as my main GPS since the screen is large. Due to GLONASS system, the satellite lockin is awesome, even indoor.
-Never use my Windows tablet anymore, since the Note can handle website and 720p flash contents without sweat.
-Became my sole ebook reader due to the resolution.
-This is the first phone where I felt the onscreen controller for games are actually very usable that I don't (always) need an extra bluetooth gamepad, due to the screen estate.
-Screen quality is amazing, but importantly the hardware can handle the HD MKV videos and have microSD support to store them. I am not ashamed to admit I take delight in the fact the screen quality and viewing angle literally destroy the iPhone 4S screen of peers.
-It's a long phone, my mouth does not even reach down to mic, but delighted people across the line can hear me fine and I'm not a loud mouth. (Though I am on custom rom which might improves the Phone app over stock.)
-With custom rom, it support OpenVPN which is a big deal for me.
I'm so glad I returned the Nexus for the Note. Only downside so far is no official 1700mhz support for T-Mobile , hope something can be done about it.
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Amen! I'm with you in every thing you said, except fot the VPN wich I don't know what is it lol...
eksasol said:
I agree, but there is rumor the Galaxy S III will be buttonless in front and 5" which I think is just right:http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-ga...already-realistic-press-images-leak-23204379/
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Thats fake picture and SGS3 will come as 4.65" as I guess. There are no real leaked picture of SGS 3 yet and all just guessing.
http://www.androidcentral.com/not-samsung-galaxy-s-iii?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter
Another "leaked" picture:
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5,3" is good for surf/video and thats the most important I got the Note for.
S-Pen is a plus and handy if wanna write some short notes to what to buy, since I always forget something at stores, after i got home.
Tab is too big too carry along and 4,3" phone (or whatever size) is just too small for surf/video. Also carry 2 device is not funny.
The Notes 5,3" is perfect and u get 2in1 hybrid device to carry with u.
True
It replaces mobile, tab and PC to an extent. And then, it replaces pen and paper!
(and, camera, music, navigation too but that's given)
eksasol said:
I agree, but there is rumor the Galaxy S III will be buttonless in front and 5" which I think is just right:http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-ga...already-realistic-press-images-leak-23204379/
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If that phone were real, I would buy it the instant it was available, and I'd pay $1500 for it without batting an eye. That is my dream device. The only thing I'd want different is for the stylus to be stored onboard. Unfortunately, it's just a concept.
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I do understand the critique; too large for a phone... too small for a tablet.
There is some truth to that. Let's admit it.
But... if you want a go anywhere device that does it all... The Note is for you.
I love it!
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How large is too large? When I first got the HD2 people said it was too large. This is ideal for what it does. Sammy has got it right.
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How large is too large? When I first got the HD2 people said it was too large. This is ideal for what it does. Sammy has got it right.
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For me; pocketability
I agree... Sammy got it right.
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drgopoos said:
For those critiques...
Show us a device that is big enough as a tablet and small enough to be a phone
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Ha ha ha! True.
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[Q] Nexus 4 and Nexus 7... why get both?

I've been very interested in the Nexus 4 since I heard about it awhile back. I've been reading every review and as many comments from bloggers who already have a preview device.
I've already decided that I'm going to buy a Nexus 4. Coming from a modded Samsung Vibrant I really don't have much to compare it to and since it's faster than the S3 I think I'm pretty much sold.
I also am looking to purchase a tablet like the Nexus 10 or Surface. I have been reading about people wanting to own both a Nexus 4 and a Nexus 7 instead of a Nexus 10.
My question: Is the Nexus 7 really worth it if you already own a Nexus 4?
I understand that the Nexus 7 is best for reading and the Nexus 10 is better for videos and web browsing. Am I correct in that assumption?
I'm not looking for a debate on which is better, but personal opinions and why would be great.
Thanks!
I have the Nexus 7. It's a lot more usable than a 10" tablet unless you plan on sharing it with someone else in my opinion.
I really can't think of a single reason in the world to purchase the Surface RT at this point considering we just saw a leak for MS Office for Android / iOS.
I'd purchase the 7 if I were you OP. Especially if you want something portable and something that you want to read on. Can't go wrong for 199 either
let me tell you how i use a phone, making phone calls, posting tweets, google+ and reading short articles.
this is how i use a tablet(in my case an ipad full version) once i bought a bluetooth keyboard i take it with me to college, for notes, to write papers, to read, watch netflix, youtube, etc. It completely took the place of my netbook for my uses.
am entertaining the idea of buying a 7inch only if i could find a bluetooth keyboard to do the same functions.
I can't see how my phone would replace my tablet or vise versa.
If you need a tablet to fucntion differently from a phone, then maybe you should get one.
If you feel that you need to upgrade your phone, maybe you do.
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Stay away from the Surface RT, if you want something that would take the place of a tablet and a real laptop get a Surface Pro.
I guess I should explain my situation a bit more.
I work as a vendor for Microsoft so having a Surface Pro is probably my safest bet. I understand that Office 2013 will be available for Android but probably overpriced and I can get it for the Surface for free.
I am a 35 year old father of 5. I work from home primarily and don't travel a whole lot. I would be sharing the device with my kids probably so they can watch Netflix or play games etc.
However, I am still entertaining the Nexus 10 if Office is cheap enough and the whole experience is better than Surface.
Anyway, back to my original question. Why buy a Nexus 7 if you already have a Nexus 4?
I went from an ipad 3 to a Nexus 7 and frankly, the screen just doesn't cut it for reading or anything else. I preferred reading on the ipad 3 and that thing was a heavy beast. The lighter and more ergonomic Nexus 10 should be perfect for reading, provided the shape isn't too unwieldy in portrait mode. If it does end up being too awkward in portrait, just get an e-reader with the $100 you saved on the Nexus 10 compared to the t700 or with the $250 you saved on the Nexus 4 compared to the GS3 unlocked. Or you could just read books in landscape mode.
The Nexus 7 is more for the crowd that is willing to use a phablet to replace their phone and tablet all in one. The nexus 7 is for the crowd that wants the convenience of a phablet but still wants their phone separate. If you are like me though, where the goal was to have a phone and 10 inch tablet from the start, then don't even consider a Nexus 7, not until it drops to $99 at least.
I actually think the Nexus 7 is the perfect device for web browsing and videos instead of the Nexus 10. My personal opinion is that it's easy on the hands and more mobile than the 10" tablets. I have a TF101 OG Transformer and I'd rather pull out the Nexus 7 instead to do reading, watch videos, read manga (I actually do all of my manga reading on it), view email attachments and as a GPS on the road. Basically, to me it's the perfect business device if you get a lot of emails and stuff while still have a huge horsepower to play games and watch videos (MX Player). I don't think I'd use the OG Transformer that I have now to play games. It's basically now a video machine and pretty much useless to me when I got the Nexus 7.
That being said, the Nexus 4 offers also the quick speed and more ram than the Nexus 7. But it's a phone, to make phone calls with, text, WhatsApp, to be quickly pulled out from my pocket. But the Nexus 7 is a better device to do the rest on because of the device having the "right" screen size. I'd just tether the Nexus 4 to the Nexus 7 if I need to do anything else.
Kind of makes it sound like I don't need the Nexus 4 after all does it. But I'm going to purchase it to upgrade my aging ST18i Xperia ray that has a 3.3" screen to something more useful and quicker as well as having better application development platform in having both the Nexus 4 and the Nexus 7.
kindiboy said:
let me tell you how i use a phone, making phone calls, posting tweets, google+ and reading short articles.
this is how i use a tablet(in my case an ipad full version) once i bought a bluetooth keyboard i take it with me to college, for notes, to write papers, to read, watch netflix, youtube, etc. It completely took the place of my netbook for my uses.
am entertaining the idea of buying a 7inch only if i could find a bluetooth keyboard to do the same functions.
I can't see how my phone would replace my tablet or vise versa.
If you need a tablet to fucntion differently from a phone, then maybe you should get one.
If you feel that you need to upgrade your phone, maybe you do.
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Stay away from the Surface RT, if you want something that would take the place of a tablet and a real laptop get a Surface Pro.
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i agree get a surface pro with full windows 8 if you need a laptop replacement
I'm not a fan of the small tablet, I figure I can do anything I'd want to do on a 7" tab with a 4.7" phone. For games and movies I'd rather use a 10" tab. I don't read e-books often, but I don't mind using my phone for reading, and if I needed more space I'd probably get a Note II and still skip the small tab.
sh0td0wn said:
Kind of makes it sound like I don't need the Nexus 4 after all does it.
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That's my point. I can understand wanting a Nexus 4 because it's a phone but the Nexus 7 is just a tablet that has a bigger screen but not as big as the 10".
I really wish there were places out there where you could physically look at all of the available options.
I have a Transformer Prime, Nexus 7 and SIII. Now I know the Prime isn't comparable to the N10 (as the N10 will most likely blow it out of the water) but in terms of usage, I NEVER use my Prime. My N7 however sees most usage out of all 3. It's the perfect size for almost everything, I find the larger screen is better for gaming, but it's not TOO large (like the bigger 10" prime). For reading, it's also perfect, as it fits in one hand without any strain at all, better than the Prime and a book. I don't think I have anything negative to say about the N7, I don't think the lack of camera is a problem and for £160 for the 16gb you can't go wrong.
In terms of owning an N7 and an N4, I plan on selling my SIII and buying the N4 on release day, reason being they both provide different functions. I love my N7 for usage at home, browsing the internet, playing games etc. but I don't take it with me everywhere, that's what I use my phone for! If I'm leaving the house for uni or just generally going out I'll always have my phone on me and most of the time leave my N7 at home, but when I'm taking my N7 with me it means that my phone battery will last 3 times longer
So I reckon that owning both is pretty reasonable, especially considering you can pick up both for around the same price as a regular smartphone or tablet, or even less than our fruit based friend.
Skullpuck said:
That's my point. I can understand wanting a Nexus 4 because it's a phone but the Nexus 7 is just a tablet that has a bigger screen but not as big as the 10".
I really wish there were places out there where you could physically look at all of the available options.
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See, that's what I thought too until I read what jrush4 said, which is basically what I'm going to do when I have both.
jrush4 said:
I have a Transformer Prime, Nexus 7 and SIII. Now I know the Prime isn't comparable to the N10 (as the N10 will most likely blow it out of the water) but in terms of usage, I NEVER use my Prime. My N7 however sees most usage out of all 3. It's the perfect size for almost everything, I find the larger screen is better for gaming, but it's not TOO large (like the bigger 10" prime). For reading, it's also perfect, as it fits in one hand without any strain at all, better than the Prime and a book. I don't think I have anything negative to say about the N7, I don't think the lack of camera is a problem and for £160 for the 16gb you can't go wrong.
In terms of owning an N7 and an N4, I plan on selling my SIII and buying the N4 on release day, reason being they both provide different functions. I love my N7 for usage at home, browsing the internet, playing games etc. but I don't take it with me everywhere, that's what I use my phone for! If I'm leaving the house for uni or just generally going out I'll always have my phone on me and most of the time leave my N7 at home, but when I'm taking my N7 with me it means that my phone battery will last 3 times longer
So I reckon that owning both is pretty reasonable, especially considering you can pick up both for around the same price as a regular smartphone or tablet, or even less than our fruit based friend.
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Thanks for this post! Exactly what I plan to do when I get the Nexus 4.
I found that the Nexus 7 was horrible for browsing compared to my ipad 3, which I sold, and my tab 10.1 before that. So, don't take my word or the Nexus 7 lovers word at face value. You have to decide which camp you are in.
jrush4 said:
In terms of owning an N7 and an N4, I plan on selling my SIII and buying the N4 on release day, reason being they both provide different functions. I love my N7 for usage at home, browsing the internet, playing games etc. .
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What about watching video such as Netflix. Does it strain your eyes on the Nexus 7?
And I just realized this is probably in the wrong forum, sorry mods!
Skullpuck said:
What about watching video such as Netflix. Does it strain your eyes on the Nexus 7?
And I just realized this is probably in the wrong forum, sorry mods!
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Well, I got no problem watching Netflix or videos on the Nexus 7 and it doesn't strain my eyes.
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sh0td0wn said:
Well, I got no problem watching Netflix or videos on the Nexus 7 and it doesn't strain my eyes.
But browsing wise, like Tomatoes8 said, the performance of Chrome on Nexus 7 is really bad, so use Dolphin or flash the AOSP browser instead of Chrome.
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Wow that looks really nice and quite large. I thought the Nexus 7 would be a bit smaller than that.
Do you have a reference point like a penny or something or maybe show your hands holding it so I can see what the real estate is like?
Thanks!
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What about watching video such as Netflix. Does it strain your eyes on the Nexus 7?
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I suggest that you use your TV and Monitor knowledge.
How much better is a 40 inch TV compared to a 32 inch TV to you? If you answer not much, point for the Nexus 7. If you answer it is like night and day, go for the Nexus 10 or Surface pro.
Is working on your desktop monitor way better than working on your laptop(this is taking into account size only)? Or do you plug in your desktop to your HDTV because your 23 inch monitor is too small? If you answer yes, then Nexus 10 because you are a size whore.
If you are just as comfortable working on your laptop at home when you have a nice big all in one desktop collecting dust, then you are not a size whore and will make due with a Nexus 7 and receive the portability benefits.
Tomatoes8 said:
I suggest that you use your TV and Monitor knowledge.
How much better is a 40 inch TV compared to a 32 inch TV to you? If you answer not much, point for the Nexus 7. If you answer it is like night and day, go for the Nexus 10 or Surface pro.
Is working on your desktop monitor way better than working on your laptop(this is taking into account size only)? Or do you plug in your desktop to your HDTV because your 23 inch monitor is too small? If you answer yes, then Nexus 10 because you are a size whore.
If you are just as comfortable working on your laptop at home when you have a nice big all in one desktop collecting dust, then you are not a size whore and will make due with a Nexus 7 and receive the portability benefits.
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I have a desktop with 3 large monitors and I remote desktop into my work laptop because of the screen size...
... I'm a size whore.
I am a Galaxy Nexus user, and I plan to upgrade to the N4 as soon as I can get one here in China.
I had a Sony Tablet S that I really enjoyed. When the N7 was released this summer, I sold my Tablet S and bought the N7 with a solid chunk of cash left over.
For me, going from the 9+" screen to the 7" screen was surprisingly satisfying. I find the N7 to be the perfect size. It's great for browsing, reading, and watching videos, at least for me. I love being able to comfortably use it with one hand, and it's super portable. It's perfect on a plane or train, and it's the only device I touch when I'm at home.
My phone is what I have with me whenever I'm out though. If I have a meeting, when I'm running around the office, or when I'm out partying on the weekends,I always have my phone. So I think the combo is ideal. I haven't really been tempted by the N10 because I already know I don't prefer that size.
I did debate getting a Note 2 to replace the two devices, but at the price you can get them for, why not have both, with a tablet that has even more screen real estate? And, as was mentioned, my battery on each device lasts much longer when they're complementing each other.
I will admit that I wondered if the two devices would be redundant when I bought the N7 this summer, but it hasn't turned out to be the case at all. I love having both.
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sh0td0wn said:
Well, I got no problem watching Netflix or videos on the Nexus 7 and it doesn't strain my eyes.
But browsing wise, like Tomatoes8 said, the performance of Chrome on Nexus 7 is really bad, so use Dolphin or flash the AOSP browser instead of Chrome.
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I used Boat Browser which performs great on the Nexus 7. I just found it too small and had to increase the font size. But after increasing the font size, the Verge ran like crap. I tried dolphin and boat browser and it was the same story. Everything worked fine except for the Verge though. It could be that they are such Apple shills that they purposely designed the web page to run like crap on Android though. I wouldn't put it past them. lol
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What about watching video such as Netflix. Does it strain your eyes on the Nexus 7?
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I watch Netflix and HBO Go on my N7 almost nightly, and I have no problem.
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TF300T - Personal Thoughts And Why You Should Get One

Hey guys, I have seen many posts of people asking why should they buy a TF300T, what is good and what isn't, so I decided to create this post to share my personal experience with this device.
I bought this tablet back in July 2012. At the moment I had some money saved, waiting for something I like to pop up and to be able to buy it.
I've always been a kind of "techy" person. I have a desktop computer that I built myself piece by piece running Windows and Ubuntu (my favorite OS). I'm also familiar with various programming languages, on both OS's. At the moment, the only Android device I had (and the very first one) was a Sony Ericsson Xperia x10 Mini, all unlocked and running Gingerbread and full speed (I just loved flashing ROM and tweaking my little baby to the top). At the time I though tablets were kind of useless... After all, they are just extra-big Android phones that people just use to show off and which only purpose was to play silly games and visit Facebook, having to pay an exuberant amount of money just to buy them.
I was aware of the existence of Transformers - I liked them from the first moment
I set eyes on a video-presentation - but they were just too expensive.
One day I was surfing on an online shop and I found TF300T. I couldn't believe what I was sawing. A quad-core Transformer, 32GB of internal memory, 1GB of RAM, Ice Cream Sandwich, and 500€... Dock included. It was cheaper than an iPad 2, and had a dock with an extra battery and USB port. Not to mention SD-card's and HDMI. Some days later watching reviews and thinking about playing with ROMs, Java and HTML made me decide: I was going to buy a Transformer!
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The first impressions
The first time I used this tablet was magical. Everything worked as expected - it was fast, and the dock was just like I expected it to be. The tablet just felt good in my hands. The rear camera is amazing, at least in my opinion: great image quality. The screen has amazing colors and is really snappy (although it is kind of a fingerprint magnet).
Although it was good, there were some problems with it: browsing was extremely slow (in the beginning I didn't noticed this much because it was my first time with a tablet) and apps kept force closing, which was kind of annoying. Well, nothing that couldn't be solved with an custom ROM: but that would have to wait some time. There was also the problem with I/O. Transferring files with the cable was a pain in the ass: the only way I was able to transfer files to the device with efficiency was using Airdroid.
ASUS, the mighty ASUS
One of the things that I really liked (and was surprised by) was how ASUS handled its devices. Let's start with the software on the tablet.On my x10 Mini, Sony putted a lot of crappy software on it, that had nothing that other apps on Market couldn't do, filled the device internal storage/RAM and that were just annoying. They didn't even included a file manager, one of the basic things all devices should have! But that's not what happens on my TF300T - not at all. The tablet came with a super-useful-and-user-friendly-and-awesome file manager (that I use until now), a complete Office suite, an app for taking notes (one of my favorite from ASUS apps) Supernote, and app for backups, for locking other apps so nobody could open them without a password, Splashtop (watch me using Office and playing games on my tab), an amazing swipe-able keyboard with a super-friendly layout, among others. And the wallpapers! One that changes according with the time and weather, another with the battery juice, and one for slide-showing all your photos.
And now, the support. ASUS is the best regarding software updates: we were the first tablet having JellyBean, not to mention regular updates. And unlike Sony, ASUS seems to care about its older devices. Also, ASUS releases the source code of their ROMS: a developer dream.
ASUS also released their own tool to unlock their devices, making the task really easy. And, besides all their warnings about warranty, they still honor it if its proven not to be our fault to damage the device.
Unlocking, installing custom ROM's, Developers, Kernels
After a couple of months using the tab without any hardware problems, I decided to unlock. I read in the forums about some people that weren't able to unlock it, but everything went smooth. Reading instructions on the forum with extreme care, I was able to install TWRP in minutes and get a new ROM installed.I couldn't believe how fast my tablet became. Using CleanROM / Hydro / CM9/10 without a custom kernel proved to be like a miracle to the tablet. I can't explain how much has changed, you can only tell by using it before and after. It was a HUGE difference.
A few days ago, I decided to try a new kernel. I read a lot about untermensch's kernel and decided to go for it. The tablet just went from perfect to heaven-like. I can now reproduce 1080p movies WITHOUT ANY GLITCH AT ALL! It's just so amazing!
This tablet also has a big level of development, New (and good) ROMs keep appearing, along with mods and kernels to make our tab even better, if possible. This makes me really happy about this device. Of course, if you have the 3G version of the tablet, you probably won't be so happy. The development for it is almost nonexistent.
Camera
The 8MP rear camera of the tablet is awesome. It has a great image quality. But what really make me love it was the fact that it takes pictures so fast and is able to capture perfectly "things moving". Bellow you have a photo I took on a cyclist competition. I also would like to advert you to not go and take pictures with this beats at a public event like I did if you don't to end up with lots of people staring at you.
The video recording is astonishing. It records at 1080p and has perfect image quality.
Games
I'm not so much of a gamer, but all the games I tried to play with it ran smoothly and fine. Of course I don't play "hardcore" games, I prefer to stick with Cut The Rope, Angry Birds, Granny Smith and so on.
Once I installed GTA Vice City just to test it out and the game ran pretty well. The dock helped a lot when playing (specially for cheats )
Battery
Having a second battery on the dock, and being big, this tablet has a huge battery capacity, and can stay turned on for days with average use. Here's a print of my battery usage stats using CM10.
Final thoughts
If I didn't buy a tablet and was to buy one now, I would definitely buy this tablet again. It can do anything and even more. In the beginning, when I though that a tablet was useless, I was SO wrong. I ended up downloading torrents, playing lots of games, browsing every website, taking notes and lots of photos, even office stuff like spreadsheets. I pretty much do ANYTHING with it. It's so portable (because of its battery), flexible thanks to the dock and it's software and so stable. I take it everywhere I go (even to the bathroom - that's one of the things this tablet to best - take the place of a newspaper :laugh: ).
That's all I have to say about my tablet. I hope I helped you decide if you should or not get one TF300T. I'll keep updating this post with thinks I did with my tablet and maybe some hints. I would also like to thank all the developers that helped making this tablet such a marvelous device. Sea! :angel:
Re: TF300T - The Story Of An Amazing Tablet
Are you high?
Seriously?
Its one of the worst and slowest tablets I've used.
I really like android but this is a sad tablet. Even iPad one is better.
Don't review ever again.
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hurricurry said:
Seriously?
Its one of the worst and slowest tablets I've used.
I really like android but this is a sad tablet. Even iPad one is better.
Don't review ever again.
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Lol, you didn't try CLEANROM then did you. I'm happy to say my benchmarks are in the mid 17,000s and I've got a quadrant score of 7222. That my friend is nothing to sneeze at.
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My Initial Impressions & Pictures!

Hello Pixel C community!!!
Just wanted to give my initial impressions and pictures.
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To sum up the initial experience, this device screams premium. It starts with unboxing:
So far everything is really responsive. The screen is brilliant and very bright. There is no lightbleed that I can tell whatsoever. Lightbleed is a BIG pet peeve of mine and this is refreshing to see that it is a non issue. The power and volume buttons have the same feel as the finish and they are firm. There is a tactile (not audible) click to them that I wish more devices have.
The speakers are loud and clear. They do lack in the low end but that is to be expected in phones/tablets in general right now. The mic's for "OK Google" work well close up (about 5ft range) but further than that it only sometimes picks up my command. I think I read down the road they will have support for "OK Google" with the screen off but for now it only works with it on.
The keyboard is very robust. It has a weight to it that builds confidence for travel. When the keyboard is attached to the front of the display the device has a solid and firm feel. It really has that familiar laptop feel when it is closed. Typing on the keyboard is a breeze. I was afraid the thin enter key would give me trouble but so far it has not. I do wish there was a track pad but I was planning on getting a portable mouse (Microsoft Arc Touch) for productivity on the go.
I set this up as a brand new device. After the setup and updates there is about 23.5 GB of storage left over. While charging there is a slight warmth coming off the back. It is charging (as I type) very rapidly. The charge cable is the USB type C and the length is adequate and on par with every other device I have bought.
All in all this is a very nice device so far. I have much to do with it still to get the full feel but right now it is blowing me away! I thought the initial experience of the Nexus 6P was great...This is amazing!
Thanks for reading and let me know if you have any questions or concerns and I will try to address them asap!
Hi! Nice review, what about gaming performance?, I would like to play some exclusive games like mount and blade or trine and I would like to know if it can handle it ,can you play a little with it and tell us ?
Agallardok said:
Hi! Nice review, what about gaming performance?, I would like to play some exclusive games like mount and blade or trine and I would like to know if it can handle it ,can you play a little with it and tell us ?
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I am still testing out everything and getting it how I like it. I will definitely test out gaming soon.
atg284 said:
I am still testing out everything and getting it how I like it. I will definitely test out gaming soon.
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Thanks you for that, I'm really interesting in buy one,but I want to know how it works,I ll alert if you post something here. Regards!!
How much does the tablet wobble when tapping the screen and typing on the keyboard?
Hi, nice to share this with us. I consider buying one, but only when Microsoft Office apps and MobileSheets is working properly. Would you mind testing this? Huge thanks!
Any back light bleed?
Ngo93 said:
How much does the tablet wobble when tapping the screen and typing on the keyboard?
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There is not much wabble at all when typing with the keyboard while on a hard surface. Taping the display will cause a very slight wobble, a mirco wable if you will. It is really firm though. If it was bad I definetly would notice it and not like it. Im typing with is as we speak and it is a joy really.
rjvdhoek said:
Hi, nice to share this with us. I consider buying one, but only when Microsoft Office apps and MobileSheets is working properly. Would you mind testing this? Huge thanks!
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So far on Android I have only used Google Docs. I have never tried the Microsoft office apps on any of my devices. If I end up using that solution for my needs on this I will let you know. For now Google docs work well for me.
zetsumeikuro said:
Any back light bleed?
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Zero backlight bleed. One of the first things I did was crank the brightness up all the way, turn out the lights, and do a backlight bleed test. Nothing. Absolutly nothing. I went through two Nexus 10's before ultametly getting my money back because of backlight bleed. It is a big pet peeve of mine.
The build quality of the Pixel C and its keyboard is excellent.
The VERY first thing I did when I received mine yesterday, was turn off all the lights, and turn the device on. ABSOLUTELY NO LIGHT BLEED. The device feels very sturdy, and built with "Premium" in mind, just like to OP stated. Is there a way to disable the battery light on the back?
atg284 said:
There is not much wabble at all when typing with the keyboard while on a hard surface. Taping the display will cause a very slight wobble, a mirco wable if you will. It is really firm though. If it was bad I definetly would notice it and not like it. Im typing with is as we speak and it is a joy really.
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Awesome! I guess some units had a bad wobble since I remember seeing some videos of some having a lot of wobble and some having none. Hope mine is like yours
Ngo93 said:
How much does the tablet wobble when tapping the screen and typing on the keyboard?
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While I'm not the OP, my Pixel C also arrived yesterday. I think ultimately it all depends upon how hard of a typist you may be. For me, this happens to be one of the most stable detachable keyboards I've ever used. It's definitely more stable than my Surface Pro 3 which I currently do most of my labor intensive tasks on .
I will add that the consensus of reviews I read immediately after placing my order cited keyboard lag on their test models. It didn't bother me though since I was primarily concerned with using this as a tablet replacement (for my ancient Google Nexus 10) as opposed to a laptop replacement. All I can say is that I've yet to experience any issues with key lagging or intermittent connectivity. While I did have to refresh my bluetooth scan a couple of times during the initial setup, I'm absolutely loving my keyboard's performance thus far.
There is an OTA update it immediately upon powering that may have something to do with resolving the so-called keyboard lagging. My only nit picks would be the lack of a trackpad, and that it does seem somewhat small. However I attribute that last matter to my previous experience with the Surface Pro 3. The more I use the Pixel C keyboard, the more I like it overall.
NikeGolfer said:
While I'm not the OP, my Pixel C also arrived yesterday. I think ultimately it all depends upon how hard of a typist you may be. For me, this happens to be one of the most stable detachable keyboards I've ever used. It's definitely more stable than my Surface Pro 3 which I currently do most of my labor intensive tasks on .
I will add that the consensus of reviews I read immediately after placing my order cited keyboard lag on their test models. It didn't bother me though since I was primarily concerned with using this as a tablet replacement (for my ancient Google Nexus 10) as opposed to a laptop replacement. All I can say is that I've yet to experience any issues with key lagging or intermittent connectivity. While I did have to refresh my bluetooth scan a couple of times during the initial setup, I'm absolutely loving my keyboard's performance thus far.
There is an OTA update it immediately upon powering that may have something to do with resolving the so-called keyboard lagging. My only nit picks would be the lack of a trackpad, and that it does seem somewhat small. However I attribute that last matter to my previous experience with the Surface Pro 3. The more I use the Pixel C keyboard, the more I like it overall.
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I appreciate your feedback as well I am growing more and more excited to receiving my Pixel C come Monday
Got my Pixel C today too (I'm typing this message out on it). Really impressed with the quality of both the tablet itself as well as the keyboard attachment; top notch all around. Screen is gorgeous, even if it does have a lower PPI than my 2013 Nexus 7 and my Nexus 6. I was worried about this when moving up to a larger size tablet, but so far I have no reason to complain. Haven't had a chance to try out the audio quality through the built-in speakers yet, but I'll watch my daily YouTube videos tonight on it to get an idea of what they sound like.. Not expecting miracles, but as long as they're decent quality, I'll be happy. For any serious listening (movies and such), I'll use my Pendulumic S1+ blutooth headphones.
I'm not going to do much on it tonight, as my USB-C to USB-A cable arrives from Amazon tomorrow, and at that poiint I'll unlock the bootloader, which will wipe the device anyway, so I'm just goinig to be using the bare minimum tonight. I do hope we get root soon, as I need to install an adblocker a.s.a.p. - haven't surfed without one in years outside of work, and I forgot how much of a pain it is!
Really, I'd say the whole unit just exudes quality. I was going to wait for a month or two to see how things progressed before making the final decision to buy one, but I got caught up in the hype when the embargo lifted on Tuesday, and all the reviews, both positive and negative, just reenforced how great this tablet would be for me. Not sorry at all that I went ahead and ordered it right away, and so far, with the little time I've had with it, I'm loving it.
[Edit] Just to throw one criticism out there, I did experience one instance of keyboard lag when typing up this post. Was easy to see as the letters just stopped appearing as I was typing. Stopped, and waited about 15 - 20 seconds, and then everything started back up again. I can see this getting annoying if it happens often enough, and I do hope Google fixes this in an upcoming software patch.
atg284 said:
Zero backlight bleed. One of the first things I did was crank the brightness up all the way, turn out the lights, and do a backlight bleed test. Nothing. Absolutly nothing. I went through two Nexus 10's before ultametly getting my money back because of backlight bleed. It is a big pet peeve of mine.
The build quality of the Pixel C and its keyboard is excellent.
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That's very good to know! My Nexus 9 pissed me off with the craptacular display! Backlight bleed and defective panels, my 9 was a nightmare.
Would you be so kind as to run the Androbench storage benchmark? I am really curious to see how the storage stacks up, speed wise. Nexus devices have historically had pretty piss poor storage performance and I am curious if the Pixel C is any better.
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Would you be so kind as to run the Androbench storage benchmark? I am really curious to see how the storage stacks up, speed wise. Nexus devices have historically had pretty piss poor storage performance and I am curious if the Pixel C is any better.
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Here you go!
http://imgur.com/2TGgU63
atg284 said:
Here you go!
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Thank you!
I just ran the same benchmark on my Nexus 6P. It's kind of sad how much slower the Pixel C is, storage-wise. I don't understand why Google wont use a decent memory architecture in their devices...
Apples to apples using your image:
Pixel C:
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oRAirwolf said:
Thank you!
I just ran the same benchmark on my Nexus 6P. It's kind of sad how much slower the Pixel C is, storage-wise. I don't understand why Google wont use a decent memory architecture in their devices...
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It looks like the sequential read is a bit on the slower end compared to the Nexus 6P. I love my N6P :victory:
I will say that the Pixel C is a pretty snappy device though. Much more fluid compared to my Note 10.1 2014 Edition.

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