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[Q] how do you like your n.i.

i was thinking about buying a notion ink off of ebay. i have had a few tablets in the past ( gtab, nook color, elocity, galaxy). could you please give me your personal opinion on the notion. should i buy a notion ink, xoom, or the new toshiba tablet coming out.
thank you for your replys

I personally like my Adam, however, it is not for everyone. There are some parts of it that could be quite a bit better. For example, the display in general isn't exactly top notch. (there is about an eighth of an inch between the surface which kind of bugs me) Nevertheless, I love my tablet. Why, you ask? Because it's mine. I don't know anybody with one. It makes me special.
Now, on the subject of other tablets, I think that the transformer looks kind of cool, the xoom is kind of... not very... cool. The galaxy tab 10.1, however, looks promising. I generally like samsung products because of their quality, and the 10.1 does not look like an exception, however, it is not out yet. I have not heard much about the toshiba one so I can't say much about that.
In short, I feel that of the tablets that you mentioned, none of them are worth buying right now, unless you have some money that you are desperate to spend.

You should check out the new asus tablet I love that! Though I like my Adam too!

aren't the asus tablet stupid expensive

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aren't the asus tablet stupid expensive
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At $399 for the 16GB and $499 for the 32Gb the simple answer is no.

You should NOT buy the NotionInk Adam!
I bought one and I'm really happy with it, my girlfriend bought one which was dead on arrival and NotionInk support sucks - they refuse to fulfill the what they promise in the warranty.
...furhermore: The peace of hardware is ok - The PixelQi screen is superb but thats it. Forget NotionInks software (its very laggy - it simply sucks) - but there are good comunity roms.
Buy the Xoom and be happy.

Thanks. for some reason I thought they were 1200 dollars. I am definitely going to get one.
did some looking at the transformer. it is cheaper than the notion and comes with honeycomb. the best thing i like is that it comes from a company that i know and trust. i have seen too many postings on the notion ink about dead pixels.

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Thanks. for some reason I thought they were 1200 dollars. I am definitely going to get one.
did some looking at the transformer. it is cheaper than the notion and comes with honeycomb. the best thing i like is that it comes from a company that i know and trust. i have seen too many postings on the notion ink about dead pixels.
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Completely agree!
I have an Asus g60 and after a year when I sent it to get my hinges replaced, they replaced almost all the parts including the motherboard; so that I shouldn't have a problem in the future
Though not sure how much of that was thrown away, just increasing the tons of e-waste!

[email protected] said:
i was thinking about buying a notion ink off of ebay. i have had a few tablets in the past ( gtab, nook color, elocity, galaxy). could you please give me your personal opinion on the notion. should i buy a notion ink, xoom, or the new toshiba tablet coming out.
thank you for your replys
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Buying an Adam via eBay or third party, take into consideration that the warranty only applies to the original owner.
-CC

Yeah it goes pretty good,
Screen is much to be desired, but with the right rom it seems very fast and capable.
My TC

Adam generally has everything all other tegra 2 android tablets offer. Of course the screen could be better and they have cut some corners to keep the price down.
I am enjoying having it even with the screen it has and does well in all normal tasks of surfing, reading, playing games, movies and of course hacking.
Basically try and get the cheapest but functional tablet u can, as anyway in six month's time there would be lots of other options.

I am very disappointed from the device.
I bought the PixelQi+3G+Wifi. it arrived a few days ago and the screen is horrible,it has bleeding edges,And very blur corners,the brightness is not perfect and colors are dead.
I couldent activate 3G at all (I got airplane mode right from the start) after a few mails to support and several attempts to solve the problem they admitted it is a problem that will be solved in the next update.
Here are some photos compared to my Elocity A7.
I decided to return the device ( almost losing $180 for costumes and shipping fees).
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As reviewers say the tablet has a high learning curve, it takes some time to get the hang of it, but its still really good cheap android tablet and notion Ink is still going to give it soome honeycomb goodness
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Buying an Adam via eBay or third party, take into consideration that the warranty only applies to the original owner.
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OK I didnt even know about the warranty good thing i work with the guy i got mine from and he helped design the UI so im ok lol BUT back to topic I LOVE MY ADAM!!!!!!! best android device i have had out the box it isnt GREAT but not horrible I dint overly like it at first but with Eden X AWESOME!!!!!!! NO FLAWS WORKS LIKE IT SHOULD love my PQi 3G Adam wouldnt sell it I was going to get the zoom but changed my mind after the PQi screen

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The guy who posted a couple of pictures above is making some mistakes you should be aware of.
1. He is using the VTL launcher alternative that is standard on Beast and EdenX which includes the blur on the edges on purpose to give some indication to the user that the dock is located there. You can turn that off if you want.
2. The edge bleeding is a problem mostly if you turn your screen brightness to near the top setting. This is true of many devices and its not really connected to the quality of the Adam. The iPad2 is known to have the same issue.
I have an Adam, and for the most part I like it. I wish the stock software was ok, but it isn't so I changed it. The hardware is mostly good but there are some issues there as well. The pixel qi screen is amazing, but the viewing angles on a couple of sides are bad. The ports and connectivity options are great as well. No other tablet even comes close. If the ASUS transformer had a pixel qi screen and was priced under $600 I would jump all over it. But sadly it doesn't. I am not too concerned about the lack of Honeycomb yet. The UI on Honeycomb is nice, but at this point in time lacking Honeycomb means I just can't get a couple of Honeycomb only apps I would like to get. Later on in perhaps 6 months to a year it might be a real problem, but I honestly think that by then we should have Honeycomb either from a ROM dev or from NI itself. As far as support from NI is concerned, I cannot honestly comment since I have had not a single issue that I could not resolve myself. Seeing as how you are on XDA in the first place, the software issues shouldn't be a problem for you.

I love my Adam but it definately is not for people who are looking for a perfect experience out of the box. Basically you need to root this this and get a decent version of android on it to make it enjoyable. Personally I went for the stock android experience but there are some beuitfully done upgrades to Eden (the default OS) so try 'em out!
From a hardwrae point of view, I LOVE the pixel qi screen, the camera is pretty crap but will be fine for conference calling/skype. Actually having usb ports that work is a huge boon and the HDMI port is full size which is awesome (though I havnt used it yet)
All in all I wouldn't recommend it to my Mother but to you it may just be perfect!
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I love my Adam for its Pixel Qi screen and also like the hardware design and layout
BUT
I think that the startup Notion Ink sucks - support is not able to handle cases.
The software on the device is really bad in spite of that this should be there flagship - the thing which makes the Adam a better experience - Its definitely not.
Its needed to replace the software with one of the custom ROMs and there are quite a few good ones.
Conclusion: I like the device but the Company Notion Ink sucks but you have a really good experience with ROMs which are not from Notion Ink.

I was on the PO1 and made a huge mistake in purchasing the Adam. I have the PQi screen (the only saving grace for NI anymore). The glass on the Adam broke and there is no way to get it fixed. I have been sending emails to NI for a month and only received a response in the first 7 days. Other than that, the support is non-existent. My guess is the company will be out of funding and gone by the end of the year (or it will have minimized its consumer based to a small niche crowd and will be a shoe-string operation). They cannot survive with their lack customer service. And don't let their blog fool you, they are moderating out most of the posts from the blog and their conclave forums.
The hardware is good, but everyone is catching up quickly.
You would be better off going to Vegas and picking red or black with your money. You will either get a great return, or the same level of service you would get from NI.
Save yourself and don't buy one.

I was PO2 and have ad no problems with support (24 hour retune on emails) i have had nothing break and i love it there is an update comeing 1st or second week of may the brings it up to a better software version and let us not forget a startup will not have the support of the big guys adn alot of time has to be spent with the people to get funding overall Adam is not for everyone but i love mine and would not trade it for 2 xooms and a asus
p.s im running non rooted stcok eden ui

I have realized that jentous is right about the blur thing from the VTL launcher ,still , bleeding is seen in many brightness selections,colors are dull compared to a regular LCD screen , i am still unable to activate 3G yet, and there is no reply from NI support after i informed them that i wish to return the product and I'm waiting for return procedure details.

The Galaxy Note Is The Most Versatile Mobile Device Ever.

Some people regard the Note as being too big to be used as a phone and too small to be used as a tablet. Of course, neither is true because the Note is the most versatile mobile device ever made. The days of having to own a small mobile phone where the screen is too small to be practicable and a tablet which is too big to carry around are over. Thank you Samsung.

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It,s probably the best thing ever done as yo it,s many functions. It,s a great smartphone light and thin with the biggest screen and amazing performance, it has an amazing battery life considering it's hugeness. It's a great ebook using aldiko, it's a fantastic media player for music, video and photos on it's own screen and on tv with hdmi. The quality of the camera is close yo the iphone 4s if not best. The video recording is simply great and of course it is better that any gps navigator you can buy since it positioning technology is the fastest i've ever seen. No doubt this phone is the gadget of the year

I do understand the critique; too large for a phone... too small for a tablet.
There is some truth to that. Let's admit it.
But... if you want a go anywhere device that does it all... The Note is for you.
I love it!

CGI_Ram said:
I do understand the critique; too large for a phone... too small for a tablet.
There is some truth to that. Let's admit it.
But... if you want a go anywhere device that does it all... The Note is for you.
I love it!
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For those critiques...
Show us a device that is big enough as a tablet and small enough to be a phone

I agree, but there is rumor the Galaxy S III will be buttonless in front and 5" which I think is just right:http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-ga...already-realistic-press-images-leak-23204379/
5.3" is slightly bit much.
One month in and still impressed with this phone. It really is the best mobile device I've ever used.
-Camera quality is excellent.
-Love using the stylus for notes and drawing/doodling.
-Bought a car mount and uses it as my main GPS since the screen is large. Due to GLONASS system, the satellite lockin is awesome, even indoor.
-Never use my Windows tablet anymore, since the Note can handle website and 720p flash contents without sweat.
-Became my sole ebook reader due to the resolution.
-This is the first phone where I felt the onscreen controller for games are actually very usable that I don't (always) need an extra bluetooth gamepad, due to the screen estate.
-Screen quality is amazing, but importantly the hardware can handle the HD MKV videos and have microSD support to store them. I am not ashamed to admit I take delight in the fact the screen quality and viewing angle literally destroy the iPhone 4S screen of peers.
-It's a long phone, my mouth does not even reach down to mic, but delighted people across the line can hear me fine and I'm not a loud mouth. (Though I am on custom rom which might improves the Phone app over stock.)
-With custom rom, it support OpenVPN which is a big deal for me.
I'm so glad I returned the Nexus for the Note. Only downside so far is no official 1700mhz support for T-Mobile , hope something can be done about it.

The size is a personal thing,for me its perfect for both as a phone and a tablet.
J had a Galaxy 10.1 it put a big stress on my arm,to use it I had to lift my arm all the time,so I gave it to my wife a Cello player.
Now with my GNote I sit for hours surfing the net without any stress since I just use my fingers to operate the entire device without lifting an arm,this is even more obvious when I play chess in long sessions,so can't be more happier with the size.

I agree. Its the best phone I have ever used. The huge screen is really an advantage in all aspects.

eksasol said:
I agree, but there is rumor the Galaxy S III will be buttonless in front and 5" which I think is just right:http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-ga...already-realistic-press-images-leak-23204379/
5.3" is slightly bit much.
One month in and still impressed with this phone. It really is the best mobile device I've ever used.
-Camera quality is excellent.
-Love using the stylus for notes and drawing/doodling.
-Bought a car mount and uses it as my main GPS since the screen is large. Due to GLONASS system, the satellite lockin is awesome, even indoor.
-Never use my Windows tablet anymore, since the Note can handle website and 720p flash contents without sweat.
-Became my sole ebook reader due to the resolution.
-This is the first phone where I felt the onscreen controller for games are actually very usable that I don't (always) need an extra bluetooth gamepad, due to the screen estate.
-Screen quality is amazing, but importantly the hardware can handle the HD MKV videos and have microSD support to store them. I am not ashamed to admit I take delight in the fact the screen quality and viewing angle literally destroy the iPhone 4S screen of peers.
-It's a long phone, my mouth does not even reach down to mic, but delighted people across the line can hear me fine and I'm not a loud mouth. (Though I am on custom rom which might improves the Phone app over stock.)
-With custom rom, it support OpenVPN which is a big deal for me.
I'm so glad I returned the Nexus for the Note. Only downside so far is no official 1700mhz support for T-Mobile , hope something can be done about it.
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Amen! I'm with you in every thing you said, except fot the VPN wich I don't know what is it lol...

eksasol said:
I agree, but there is rumor the Galaxy S III will be buttonless in front and 5" which I think is just right:http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-ga...already-realistic-press-images-leak-23204379/
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Thats fake picture and SGS3 will come as 4.65" as I guess. There are no real leaked picture of SGS 3 yet and all just guessing.
http://www.androidcentral.com/not-samsung-galaxy-s-iii?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=twitter
Another "leaked" picture:
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5,3" is good for surf/video and thats the most important I got the Note for.
S-Pen is a plus and handy if wanna write some short notes to what to buy, since I always forget something at stores, after i got home.
Tab is too big too carry along and 4,3" phone (or whatever size) is just too small for surf/video. Also carry 2 device is not funny.
The Notes 5,3" is perfect and u get 2in1 hybrid device to carry with u.

True
It replaces mobile, tab and PC to an extent. And then, it replaces pen and paper!
(and, camera, music, navigation too but that's given)

eksasol said:
I agree, but there is rumor the Galaxy S III will be buttonless in front and 5" which I think is just right:http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-ga...already-realistic-press-images-leak-23204379/
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If that phone were real, I would buy it the instant it was available, and I'd pay $1500 for it without batting an eye. That is my dream device. The only thing I'd want different is for the stylus to be stored onboard. Unfortunately, it's just a concept.

CGI_Ram said:
I do understand the critique; too large for a phone... too small for a tablet.
There is some truth to that. Let's admit it.
But... if you want a go anywhere device that does it all... The Note is for you.
I love it!
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How large is too large? When I first got the HD2 people said it was too large. This is ideal for what it does. Sammy has got it right.

romac said:
How large is too large? When I first got the HD2 people said it was too large. This is ideal for what it does. Sammy has got it right.
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For me; pocketability
I agree... Sammy got it right.
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drgopoos said:
For those critiques...
Show us a device that is big enough as a tablet and small enough to be a phone
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Ha ha ha! True.
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[Q] Which Win 8 Pro Tablet/Laptop Hybrid?

First off, I apologize if this has been asked, I could only find a relevant thread about RT versions. Also, I was not sure if this should be posted in the Windows 8 general forum or the Microsoft Surface forum (I figured it was only for the Surface, not all tablets), and if I placed this in the wrong place, please delete it.
So on to my question: does anyone have a suggestion as to which Windows 8 Pro Tablet/Laptop hybrid to get? I would be using it to replace my old laptop: I'd like to do the standard stuff (watch videos, browse the web, etc), use it for notes in class, play the occasional game (nothing serious, probably just WoW, the real gaming I do on my desktop), and code in Visual Studio. I definitely want one that comes apart, like the Asus Transformers, so I'm not even considering sliders or all-in-ones.
I've read a bit about some of the tablets, but I honestly have no idea which one to get when they come out. I wanted the Microsoft Surface, but the kickstand instead of solid base kinda kills it for me (I want to be able to type with it on my lap), and I just can't weigh the pros and cons of the other tablets. I love the build quality of Asus, but I've heard bad things about atom processors. Samsung has an i5 version, but I'm not so sure about the build quality (I've never cared for plasticy laptops). I know the Samsung has 4GB of RAM, and I heard Asus has only 2GB (which would be abysmal, if they don't offer higher that will probably make my decision for me). I don't want to go anywhere near Lenovo, and I haven't heard much about any other brand (where are the specs for HP, Dell, Sony?).
So unless I'm missing something, I'm looking at the Microsoft Surface if I suck it up and embrace the kickstand, the Asus Vivo or the Samsung Ativ. The Asus will probably have better battery life, but the Samsung will (I believe) be far more powerful. Battery life isn't that big a deal to me as long as it can last around 6 hours or so on a charge (side note: do the docks have batteries in them like in the Transformers?), and I don't really know how the atom fares for what I want it to do. I know there is more to be seen from the other companies, but I have heard little about HP and Dell, and I don't like the design of the Sony Vaio Duo 11. Not to mention I don't want to wait for several months for the Surface or any other tablet coming out later (my laptop is really starting to crap out... Thanks "best friend" for convincing me to get a Macbook Pro a few years ago ).
So anyway, my mind is all over the place and I really have no idea what to get. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Sorry if it seemed like I was rambling, I just really can't put all the factors together to make a decision.

Lysdexia said:
First off, I apologize if this has been asked, I could only find a relevant thread about RT versions. Also, I was not sure if this should be posted in the Windows 8 general forum or the Microsoft Surface forum (I figured it was only for the Surface, not all tablets), and if I placed this in the wrong place, please delete it.
So on to my question: does anyone have a suggestion as to which Windows 8 Pro Tablet/Laptop hybrid to get? I would be using it to replace my old laptop: I'd like to do the standard stuff (watch videos, browse the web, etc), use it for notes in class, play the occasional game (nothing serious, probably just WoW, the real gaming I do on my desktop), and code in Visual Studio. I definitely want one that comes apart, like the Asus Transformers, so I'm not even considering sliders or all-in-ones.
I've read a bit about some of the tablets, but I honestly have no idea which one to get when they come out. I wanted the Microsoft Surface, but the kickstand instead of solid base kinda kills it for me (I want to be able to type with it on my lap), and I just can't weigh the pros and cons of the other tablets. I love the build quality of Asus, but I've heard bad things about atom processors. Samsung has an i5 version, but I'm not so sure about the build quality (I've never cared for plasticy laptops). I know the Samsung has 4GB of RAM, and I heard Asus has only 2GB (which would be abysmal, if they don't offer higher that will probably make my decision for me). I don't want to go anywhere near Lenovo, and I haven't heard much about any other brand (where are the specs for HP, Dell, Sony?).
So unless I'm missing something, I'm looking at the Microsoft Surface if I suck it up and embrace the kickstand, the Asus Vivo or the Samsung Ativ. The Asus will probably have better battery life, but the Samsung will (I believe) be far more powerful. Battery life isn't that big a deal to me as long as it can last around 6 hours or so on a charge (side note: do the docks have batteries in them like in the Transformers?), and I don't really know how the atom fares for what I want it to do. I know there is more to be seen from the other companies, but I have heard little about HP and Dell, and I don't like the design of the Sony Vaio Duo 11. Not to mention I don't want to wait for several months for the Surface or any other tablet coming out later (my laptop is really starting to crap out... Thanks "best friend" for convincing me to get a Macbook Pro a few years ago ).
So anyway, my mind is all over the place and I really have no idea what to get. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Sorry if it seemed like I was rambling, I just really can't put all the factors together to make a decision.
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What do you have against Lenovo? They make very good hardware, even if the design leaves something to be desired. But in your situation it might be ideal. The digitizer would help you with note taking, although I'm not sure how the Clover Trail processor will hold up to WoW or Visual Studio. I'm personally going to get one as a netbook replacement. Might be worth a look for you.

Yea I was going to say, right now its a decision between the Lenovo Thinkpad Tablet 2 and the Microsoft Surface.
The Thinkpad has a keyboard that can support the weight or the screen, active digitizer, legacy application support among others. The Surface RT is lighter, will probably be cheaper and comes preinstalled with onenote.
Had the Surface RT come with a digitizer I would have been all over that.

Thanks a ton for the replies. I guess I've just heard a lot of bad things about Lenovo from friends, I'll look into it though. And I guess I'll have to wait for them to come out to see how well the processors fair, I think I'll end up going with an i3 or i5, but if the others aren't too far behind I may go for them instead for a cheaper price and longer battery.

Get a tf book...
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I hadn't heard of the tf book, but now that I've looked at it it really seems like a contender. Do you have any idea when it's going to be released?

I am in very similar situation to yours.
I am trying to follow information regarding upcoming devices. I used to have Asus 1201N (Atom [2 core] 330 + ION platform) and was very happy with size, weight, screen, performance. I do web/mail browsing, movies (downloaded or streamed) plus quite a lot of writing for some websites.
I got rid of it because it was very hot device with warm/hot air constantly blowing out of it. I swapped it for an iPad bo it is just a toy not someting I can use to work.
So... in my case I am looking for:
approx 11" device (10 is definitely to small to work... 12" not mobile enough - tablet itself would be to big)
I think I will go with Atom. I dot suppose it will be worse than current range of Atoms... if I can get smooth playback of 720p mkv out of it I am settled.
One more issue I see regarding i3 and i5 CPU's are battery life and heating. From what I have seen hybrid devices with iCore processors will have an active cooling system (fan) unlike ARM and Atom based devices
Screen resolution - 1366 x 768 not more. Why not Full HD screen? Two reasons.
1. Atom could struggle in this resolution.
2. Since all I watch (I do not have a TV - no time) on this device will be either downloaded or streamed Full HD screen will make those films look bad when compared to HD ready resolution
decent battery life, reasonable weight of the tablet part of the device (if I can stay around iPad 1 weight it would be cool)
As for now my focus goes with 2 devices: Asus 810 and Samsung Smart PC (PC Pro will have iCore CPU).

Have a look a this...
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It seems that we'll have an assortment of models, but are prices mentioned somewhere? All I've seen its the Vaio Duo with a price tag of $1200 and all I can shell out is two thirds of that.

[Q] Honesty and Owers Only Please...

I'm taking the jump into getting an Android tablet, and with the price difference between the Nexus 7 and Nexus 10 not being THAT much, i'm torn between the two.
I currently have the Samsung Galaxy S3 and use it to an inch of it's potential so to speak. Mod it, break it, mod it some more, game, wireless controlling, and of course the usual things you do with a phone.
What i am currently researching is the potential to use it as a audio controller to map beats, on-the-fly effects, and recording/sampling/looping with my Guitar and Mic. I understand the iPad's do lead in this technology due to the connector to allow for a multiple of inputs. But, excusing profanity... FnCK Apple.
I need real users to tell me honestly, and truthfully the capabilities they know by first hand experience, and what they have read for me to make a decision on these two devices. I understand this is somewhat opening the can of worms that is Android, so please keep it simple and brief. This is a hard decision!
Thank you for your times guys,
Steve.

this is the nexus 10 subforum.. In here ppl will tell you to buy the nexus 10.. I bet you post in the Nexus 7 subforum as well... lol
easy choice for me. I'd never buy a 7 inch tablet no matter how good it is.

There are other threads like this too...Do what you want. If you are going to use it for web, movies, magazine, I'd say go for the 10...if you want a portable E-reader go for the 7. Go to the store and try the 7 and a different 10 inch tablet to see how they feel for you.

I have a gs3 as well and had a nexus 7. The screen size isn't that much of a difference to justify it in the nexus 7 area. The nexus 10 is rly great and works great. Also 10 in screen is just great when you have a larger phone like you and I.
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You know that's very true. I have a big phone, so to get the most out of either tablet, i guess screen size (Due to the S3 being a big phone) is actually important. I've never actually seen the Nexus 10 tab up close but i'm guessing i'm going to sex wee some what. Does this thing really fly?

I have a N7 and an iPad 1 now and wanted to upgrade the iPad but am moving away from apple.
The two sized devices sort of have separate use-cases. The larger device sits on my coffee table for quick surfing and email checks while the n7 is always in my bag. I travel constantly and there are many times I need to look something up on the web/calendar/email when I have enough time to not have to use my phone but don't want to pull out my laptop....
Think about where/how you are going to use it (does it need to be REALLY portable or not).
My n10 is due to be delivered Monday, but I have been using the n7 since launch and am very happy with it.

I have ZERO musical experience with EITHER device.
However I own them BOTH (the 7 and the 10) and I'm telling you right now that if you're even remotely torn between the two - GET THE 10.
All you need to do is SEE IT to know. Here is my "Nexii" picture:
https://plus.google.com/116992953847984037990/posts/MXDqFkfsHPq
The 7 is on the left - see what I mean?

Yes, i see exactly. I'd be using it to read music off it as well so the size of the N7 does seem just that little bit small. The N10 seems pretty perfect to sit on my book stand as well! Specially with the crazy resolution of the device things will be crystal clear even with the file being fully shown and not zoomed in. Right now - I think the N10 is winning this race!

I'm in a similar dilemma...for your purpose, reading music I think its a no brainer. The picture above says it all, N10 is the clear winner. I'm still not sure if I'm keeping the N10. I'm definitely buying one once its released at Walmart. The N7 is an awesome device and for its size alone is why I think it suits my needs better but until I have the N10 I won't know.
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So i have made the decision to go with the Nexus 10. If the hardware specs were swapped around, i would still go for the Nexus 10. I'm wanting a tablet that was going to last at least it's warranty, wasn't going to go "out dated". I feel the screen specifically will be the benchmark for future tablets. That and i don't think there's any reason to go any higher on the resolution part, and i'm picky!
Thank you for the few on XDA that gave me some truly valid input! But i'm now plagued with "Out of Stock" on google. I will have my Nexten!
Stevan

I have both.
Nexus 10:
PROS:
- You can surf the web like your computer does 100% all the time. (ex: you don't need tapatalk for this forum, I use it in the nexus 7).
- Everysingle Google app it's better IMO. They use the Tablet version, while the Nexus 7 uses modified smartphone versions.
- Screen it's out of this world and has better sensitivity (read below).
- This probably nobody said it before: Nexus 7 lacks good sensitivity in shorter distances. I really like to draw in my tablet, I have a Dagi Stylus and it works like a charm in both tablets. But when I try to draw like 1cm. lines in the nexus 7 (or simply details) it doesn't work, you gotta always zoom in, which some times in unpleasant. If you don't zoom in it draws nothing or like a pixel so it's like there is a longer detection threshold or something (can be the software also, idk). All this in "Sketchbook PRO" app.
- Sketchbook PRO lags a lot in the Nexus 7 and seems not really optimized at least, IDK (it gets worse as you add more layers and more detail to my image). In the other hand it flies in my Nexus 10 even drawing pixels (x2) it seems fluid and the stylus works great. (You can't change the canvas size in sketchbook PRO, it's always 2560x1504 I think). It's way easier to work in tiny distances when I bought my Nexus 10 it was one of the first things I tried since it was so much fail in the Nexus 7. See in the Sketch I did the morning it arrived without too much efford without having to Zoom in and zoom out to draw some random lines of grass to add some noise to the ground.
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- Battery seems similar to me (I usually don't play anything in my tablets).
- Sound it WAY WAY WAY better, you can feel the sounds coming in diferent directions.
- Whatever they said I love all the design all around.
- Reading documents it's 100% reliable in the Nexus 10 and sometimes feels short in the Nexus 7 as not all of your doucments are formatted for the screen, you may not be able to read wide PDF's in the Nexus 7 confortably. Nexus 10 works for everything. Which for me was one the most importan features of the tablet.
- Overall seems faster in the OS than the Nexus 7 and faster in this games also: Final fantasy III, Chaos rings.
- You got a rear camera (which I'll never use).
- You a rear camera LED (which I'll frequently use as a light), with a switch widget.
CONS:
- It's heavier and after one hour of holding it you can feel it. Like your hands feel really tired.
- It's wider so you must use it like a tray (90% of the time you will hold it as a tray). Sucks.
- It's bigger and I feel discouraged to take it with me everywhere. I don't think I would take it to my work.
- Some smartphone optimized apps feels like "decent" in the Nexus 7 in the Nexus 10 they look horrible. And there's several of them.
- Some apps crash the tablet. There's several of them also.
- Charging is slow.
- As you read with the lights off, the Nexus 10 and his Bigger screen throws a sillion more light into your eyes, result: Eyes more tired.
- No Tegra 3 optimized games.
- No $20 bucks for apps.
Nexus 7:
PROS:
- Light as a feather, I never got tired of holding it in my hand. Super confortable.
- Perfect wide. There's so many positions to hold it.
- Size and weight feels perfect for carrying around, sometime in the future I may just get a Nokia 3310 and a Nexus 7 with 3g.
- Smartphone apps don't feel that weird.
- Had just a couple of crashes in 2 months. One being after drwaing like 2 hours in Sketchbook, I was sooo pissed.
- Charging is decent.
- Everygame android game in earth should work on this Tegra 3 baby.
- Cheap as hell. Feels like I'm robbing the store.
- For this price it's more premium than the most premium.
- Screen it's really good, you can barely barely see the pixels here.
- It's stylish and cool.
- Size and price it's the perfect balanced between everything. You sacrifice a little functionality for moviility, etc. 10" tablets can do this as well if you dare.
- When I bought it I got $20 bucks for google play apps (idk if that exist anymore).
CONS:
- Cannot 100% replace your laptop web surfing. Screen falls short sometimes.
- Bad screen sensitivity (or maybe bad optimized app, read above).
- Batterys seems similar to me.
- Average / just decent sound. (maybe bad sometimes)
- Several of them came with screen defects (mine included), it's not really a big problem, but WTF.
- As I said, Google apps use a slighly smartphone modified apps for the nexus 7, in the other hand, for the Nexus 10 they use the tablet app.
- Reading bad optimized documents can be a pain in the a** (usually pdf's with wide white colums at the sides which are really really common), with infinite zooming panning, etcetera. If your document has no ilustrations you can work around it, but with them no.
Overall I use more the Nexus 10. Nexus 7 seems excellent for short travels and stuff like that etcetera. But for me in day to day use at home. No doubt. I preffer the big one.

I am saying that as a HAPPY Nexus 10 owner, if you're using this for music creation/editing purposes, make sure first that they have applications that fit your needs on the google play store. As much as I love android, its gaming selection, the awesome ability to root your device, etc., I do admit Apple does have a good amount of apps we don't yet or ever will get, and I know on the Mac side of things Media creation of ANY type is usually better than PC, and I also say that as a PC user and general Anti-Apple person. So if music creation/editing is your #1 concern, you might just have to bite the bullet. Or the Apple.

[Q] Now it's 2014 is the Nexus 10 still worth buying?

Hi,
I've been wanting a tablet for a while now, and I have my eye on the Nexus 10, it's reasonably priced, and has been since it came out, it has an amazing display etc. etc.
But it's really quite old now, I've looked around and there's very much mixed views, I know exactly what I want from a tablet, and I was wondering if the Nexus 10 would be perfectly fine. I know the 2nd Gen. version is supposed to be coming out soon, but if this tablet does everything and want and is cheaper, what's the point in buying the newer one?
Anyway, basically I want a tablet that can easily to the following things:
Browse the internet
Watch movies
Browse Facebook
Be easily able to use Instagram
Easily able to use Snap Chat
Play games
Easily customisable (eg. Home screen backgrounds)
Have a decent front a back back camera
Updates to the latest version of android as soon as it's released
Feels good in the hand
Looks pretty good
Decent battery life
I'm pretty sure the Nexus 10 should be fine for most if not all of this, but I thought I'd check. One thing I think might help if you think I could get a better tablet for a decent price (preferably no more than £300) is that I really like the shape on the Nexus 10, but I really hate the shape of the Nexus 7. I don't know why, it's just one if those things I guess.
Thank you

Tbh I was in the same predicament as you a couple of months ago. I wanted a tablet for pretty much the same reasons as u as I'm working away from home quite often.
I've already got a Nexus 5 purely for stock android, timely updates and a great device at a great price so I thought I'd check out the Nexus 10 first. I stumbled across Expansys selling the 32gb model for £255 whereas it was still down as £390 on the playstore and I'm pleased to say I'm chuffed with my purchase. Even the tab is quite old in tech terms it's still fast, the screen is amazing and I got 4.4.3 automatically yday.
I rooted both my devices today too so that's only improved the experience. I would recommended getting the 32gb to be on the safe side but unfortunately Expansys only seem to stock the 16gb version now. However ebays worth a look, I got my dad a mint 32gb nexus 10 with a case for £260.
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Hi,
For everything you're saying Nexus 10 is a beast and you'll be very happy with your acquisition. Let me specify a little more on each topic:
Browse the internet
Nexus 10 has a reasonably good internet browsing ability, as I'm often far from my laptop I'm using it most of time. In lastest updates Chrome Beta has showed some issues (white screen with nothing, reoppening the app will fix it), but I think soon an update will be released to fix it.
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Watch movies
Front facing speakers and a 2K (qHD) screen, you'll not be disappointed. Watched lots of movies and animes in it already, must say it's a great experience.
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Browse Facebook
There's a dedicated Facebook app, but with the 10" screen you can set up web browser Facebook to show up as desktop, it works very good. I'm not a Facebook fanatic, so I don't use it too much, however every time I use it, it's not bad.
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Be easily able to use Instagram/Easily able to use Snap Chat/Have a decent front and back camera
I put those 3 together for one reason. Tablets were not born to take pictures, while the camera isn't bad, you don't have a good either. This video was recorded using the front facing camera:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKjZFW4p9z0
With my experience, the pictures of back facing seem a little whiteish, personally I don't like it too much... Here's an example:
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(Full Resolution:
Never used those two apps on the other hand, but I don't expect them to be too good on any tablet out there.
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Play games
I have tons of games on mine xD. It's very pleasant to play Dead Trigger 2 on such a high resolution screen, completed Katawa Shoujo Visual Novel on it (8 hours gameplay lol), also many others. While some games like Modern Combat 4 and NOVA 3 were downscaled, but most games run pretty well and have good resolution. Just keep in mind low resolution games will look horrible, due to big screen and huge screen resolution
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Easily customisable (eg. Home screen backgrounds)
Man, you're on Android. You can customize anything you want. The way you want. If you don't like Stock Homescreen, then download another one (I, for example, use NOVA Launcher, because it's the one that I like at most). If you want a ridiculously easy app to customize, then use Themer .
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Updates to the latest version of android as soon as it's released
Soon the Android update policy will end for Nexus 10, but the next update is very likely to arrive on Nexus as soon as it will be released. Also it has a great dev support, so it's very likely we will continue to have updates for a long time
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Feels good in the hand
Yes it feels. I got a case (Poetic Case + keyboard) and with it the feel is good too.
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Looks pretty good
Very subjective matter, I like the design. Don't know if you'd like, just search for pics in the net hahaha!
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Decent battery life
9,000mAh battery. I get 4-5 hours screen on time easily! With moderate usage, with heavier usage I get 3h30min-4hours usage . So it's an amazing battery life.
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~Lord

From what I read a kindle fire hdx would better suit your needs.
Best display around. Snapdragon 800. Nothing more to say.
The display outclass nexus display and is better then iPad air.
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I second @XxLordxX
Also. The nexus 10 has one of the best if not the best gpu and awesome roms and kernels to make it even better.
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Khaon said:
From what I read a kindle fire hdx would better suit your needs.
Best display around. Snapdragon 800. Nothing more to say.
The display outclass nexus display and is better then iPad air.
Envoyé de mon MI 2S en utilisant Tapatalk
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I've used a fire.. dont know on the HDX, the its not very configureable. Its not a real droid.. its a neutered. I'd rather have a true droid than that monstrosity I have (I own a first gen kindle fire)

scythefwd said:
I've used a fire.. dont know on the HDX, the its not very configureable. Its not a real droid.. its a neutered. I'd rather have a true droid than that monstrosity I have (I own a first gen kindle fire)
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Hi,
AFAIK Kindle Fire HDX also run FireOS, which is the customized version of Android by Amazon, so I don't think you'll have something too different from your current Fire. I'm not an expert on FireOS though, the best would be to find some reviews and videos about it, then you'd have a good idea of what you'd get .
Usually I read from Android Authority, here's their tablet review:
http://www.androidauthority.com/kindle-fire-hdx-7-review-315172/
~Lord

XxLordxX said:
Hi,
AFAIK Kindle Fire HDX also run FireOS, which is the customized version of Android by Amazon, so I don't think you'll have something too different from your current Fire. I'm not an expert on FireOS though, the best would be to find some reviews and videos about it, then you'd have a good idea of what you'd get .
Usually I read from Android Authority, here's their tablet review:
http://www.androidauthority.com/kindle-fire-hdx-7-review-315172/
~Lord
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its customized.. the same way mac is a customized version of next step. without root, which breaks things, you cannot do much to your desktop, very little configuration is available to the system, no play store and if you sideload theres a good chance it wont work (like chrome).