I've been very interested in the Nexus 4 since I heard about it awhile back. I've been reading every review and as many comments from bloggers who already have a preview device.
I've already decided that I'm going to buy a Nexus 4. Coming from a modded Samsung Vibrant I really don't have much to compare it to and since it's faster than the S3 I think I'm pretty much sold.
I also am looking to purchase a tablet like the Nexus 10 or Surface. I have been reading about people wanting to own both a Nexus 4 and a Nexus 7 instead of a Nexus 10.
My question: Is the Nexus 7 really worth it if you already own a Nexus 4?
I understand that the Nexus 7 is best for reading and the Nexus 10 is better for videos and web browsing. Am I correct in that assumption?
I'm not looking for a debate on which is better, but personal opinions and why would be great.
Thanks!
I have the Nexus 7. It's a lot more usable than a 10" tablet unless you plan on sharing it with someone else in my opinion.
I really can't think of a single reason in the world to purchase the Surface RT at this point considering we just saw a leak for MS Office for Android / iOS.
I'd purchase the 7 if I were you OP. Especially if you want something portable and something that you want to read on. Can't go wrong for 199 either
let me tell you how i use a phone, making phone calls, posting tweets, google+ and reading short articles.
this is how i use a tablet(in my case an ipad full version) once i bought a bluetooth keyboard i take it with me to college, for notes, to write papers, to read, watch netflix, youtube, etc. It completely took the place of my netbook for my uses.
am entertaining the idea of buying a 7inch only if i could find a bluetooth keyboard to do the same functions.
I can't see how my phone would replace my tablet or vise versa.
If you need a tablet to fucntion differently from a phone, then maybe you should get one.
If you feel that you need to upgrade your phone, maybe you do.
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Stay away from the Surface RT, if you want something that would take the place of a tablet and a real laptop get a Surface Pro.
I guess I should explain my situation a bit more.
I work as a vendor for Microsoft so having a Surface Pro is probably my safest bet. I understand that Office 2013 will be available for Android but probably overpriced and I can get it for the Surface for free.
I am a 35 year old father of 5. I work from home primarily and don't travel a whole lot. I would be sharing the device with my kids probably so they can watch Netflix or play games etc.
However, I am still entertaining the Nexus 10 if Office is cheap enough and the whole experience is better than Surface.
Anyway, back to my original question. Why buy a Nexus 7 if you already have a Nexus 4?
I went from an ipad 3 to a Nexus 7 and frankly, the screen just doesn't cut it for reading or anything else. I preferred reading on the ipad 3 and that thing was a heavy beast. The lighter and more ergonomic Nexus 10 should be perfect for reading, provided the shape isn't too unwieldy in portrait mode. If it does end up being too awkward in portrait, just get an e-reader with the $100 you saved on the Nexus 10 compared to the t700 or with the $250 you saved on the Nexus 4 compared to the GS3 unlocked. Or you could just read books in landscape mode.
The Nexus 7 is more for the crowd that is willing to use a phablet to replace their phone and tablet all in one. The nexus 7 is for the crowd that wants the convenience of a phablet but still wants their phone separate. If you are like me though, where the goal was to have a phone and 10 inch tablet from the start, then don't even consider a Nexus 7, not until it drops to $99 at least.
I actually think the Nexus 7 is the perfect device for web browsing and videos instead of the Nexus 10. My personal opinion is that it's easy on the hands and more mobile than the 10" tablets. I have a TF101 OG Transformer and I'd rather pull out the Nexus 7 instead to do reading, watch videos, read manga (I actually do all of my manga reading on it), view email attachments and as a GPS on the road. Basically, to me it's the perfect business device if you get a lot of emails and stuff while still have a huge horsepower to play games and watch videos (MX Player). I don't think I'd use the OG Transformer that I have now to play games. It's basically now a video machine and pretty much useless to me when I got the Nexus 7.
That being said, the Nexus 4 offers also the quick speed and more ram than the Nexus 7. But it's a phone, to make phone calls with, text, WhatsApp, to be quickly pulled out from my pocket. But the Nexus 7 is a better device to do the rest on because of the device having the "right" screen size. I'd just tether the Nexus 4 to the Nexus 7 if I need to do anything else.
Kind of makes it sound like I don't need the Nexus 4 after all does it. But I'm going to purchase it to upgrade my aging ST18i Xperia ray that has a 3.3" screen to something more useful and quicker as well as having better application development platform in having both the Nexus 4 and the Nexus 7.
kindiboy said:
let me tell you how i use a phone, making phone calls, posting tweets, google+ and reading short articles.
this is how i use a tablet(in my case an ipad full version) once i bought a bluetooth keyboard i take it with me to college, for notes, to write papers, to read, watch netflix, youtube, etc. It completely took the place of my netbook for my uses.
am entertaining the idea of buying a 7inch only if i could find a bluetooth keyboard to do the same functions.
I can't see how my phone would replace my tablet or vise versa.
If you need a tablet to fucntion differently from a phone, then maybe you should get one.
If you feel that you need to upgrade your phone, maybe you do.
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Stay away from the Surface RT, if you want something that would take the place of a tablet and a real laptop get a Surface Pro.
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i agree get a surface pro with full windows 8 if you need a laptop replacement
I'm not a fan of the small tablet, I figure I can do anything I'd want to do on a 7" tab with a 4.7" phone. For games and movies I'd rather use a 10" tab. I don't read e-books often, but I don't mind using my phone for reading, and if I needed more space I'd probably get a Note II and still skip the small tab.
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Kind of makes it sound like I don't need the Nexus 4 after all does it.
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That's my point. I can understand wanting a Nexus 4 because it's a phone but the Nexus 7 is just a tablet that has a bigger screen but not as big as the 10".
I really wish there were places out there where you could physically look at all of the available options.
I have a Transformer Prime, Nexus 7 and SIII. Now I know the Prime isn't comparable to the N10 (as the N10 will most likely blow it out of the water) but in terms of usage, I NEVER use my Prime. My N7 however sees most usage out of all 3. It's the perfect size for almost everything, I find the larger screen is better for gaming, but it's not TOO large (like the bigger 10" prime). For reading, it's also perfect, as it fits in one hand without any strain at all, better than the Prime and a book. I don't think I have anything negative to say about the N7, I don't think the lack of camera is a problem and for £160 for the 16gb you can't go wrong.
In terms of owning an N7 and an N4, I plan on selling my SIII and buying the N4 on release day, reason being they both provide different functions. I love my N7 for usage at home, browsing the internet, playing games etc. but I don't take it with me everywhere, that's what I use my phone for! If I'm leaving the house for uni or just generally going out I'll always have my phone on me and most of the time leave my N7 at home, but when I'm taking my N7 with me it means that my phone battery will last 3 times longer
So I reckon that owning both is pretty reasonable, especially considering you can pick up both for around the same price as a regular smartphone or tablet, or even less than our fruit based friend.
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That's my point. I can understand wanting a Nexus 4 because it's a phone but the Nexus 7 is just a tablet that has a bigger screen but not as big as the 10".
I really wish there were places out there where you could physically look at all of the available options.
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See, that's what I thought too until I read what jrush4 said, which is basically what I'm going to do when I have both.
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I have a Transformer Prime, Nexus 7 and SIII. Now I know the Prime isn't comparable to the N10 (as the N10 will most likely blow it out of the water) but in terms of usage, I NEVER use my Prime. My N7 however sees most usage out of all 3. It's the perfect size for almost everything, I find the larger screen is better for gaming, but it's not TOO large (like the bigger 10" prime). For reading, it's also perfect, as it fits in one hand without any strain at all, better than the Prime and a book. I don't think I have anything negative to say about the N7, I don't think the lack of camera is a problem and for £160 for the 16gb you can't go wrong.
In terms of owning an N7 and an N4, I plan on selling my SIII and buying the N4 on release day, reason being they both provide different functions. I love my N7 for usage at home, browsing the internet, playing games etc. but I don't take it with me everywhere, that's what I use my phone for! If I'm leaving the house for uni or just generally going out I'll always have my phone on me and most of the time leave my N7 at home, but when I'm taking my N7 with me it means that my phone battery will last 3 times longer
So I reckon that owning both is pretty reasonable, especially considering you can pick up both for around the same price as a regular smartphone or tablet, or even less than our fruit based friend.
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Thanks for this post! Exactly what I plan to do when I get the Nexus 4.
I found that the Nexus 7 was horrible for browsing compared to my ipad 3, which I sold, and my tab 10.1 before that. So, don't take my word or the Nexus 7 lovers word at face value. You have to decide which camp you are in.
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In terms of owning an N7 and an N4, I plan on selling my SIII and buying the N4 on release day, reason being they both provide different functions. I love my N7 for usage at home, browsing the internet, playing games etc. .
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What about watching video such as Netflix. Does it strain your eyes on the Nexus 7?
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What about watching video such as Netflix. Does it strain your eyes on the Nexus 7?
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Well, I got no problem watching Netflix or videos on the Nexus 7 and it doesn't strain my eyes.
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But browsing wise, like Tomatoes8 said, the performance of Chrome on Nexus 7 is really bad, so use Dolphin or flash the AOSP browser instead of Chrome.
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Well, I got no problem watching Netflix or videos on the Nexus 7 and it doesn't strain my eyes.
But browsing wise, like Tomatoes8 said, the performance of Chrome on Nexus 7 is really bad, so use Dolphin or flash the AOSP browser instead of Chrome.
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Wow that looks really nice and quite large. I thought the Nexus 7 would be a bit smaller than that.
Do you have a reference point like a penny or something or maybe show your hands holding it so I can see what the real estate is like?
Thanks!
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What about watching video such as Netflix. Does it strain your eyes on the Nexus 7?
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I suggest that you use your TV and Monitor knowledge.
How much better is a 40 inch TV compared to a 32 inch TV to you? If you answer not much, point for the Nexus 7. If you answer it is like night and day, go for the Nexus 10 or Surface pro.
Is working on your desktop monitor way better than working on your laptop(this is taking into account size only)? Or do you plug in your desktop to your HDTV because your 23 inch monitor is too small? If you answer yes, then Nexus 10 because you are a size whore.
If you are just as comfortable working on your laptop at home when you have a nice big all in one desktop collecting dust, then you are not a size whore and will make due with a Nexus 7 and receive the portability benefits.
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I suggest that you use your TV and Monitor knowledge.
How much better is a 40 inch TV compared to a 32 inch TV to you? If you answer not much, point for the Nexus 7. If you answer it is like night and day, go for the Nexus 10 or Surface pro.
Is working on your desktop monitor way better than working on your laptop(this is taking into account size only)? Or do you plug in your desktop to your HDTV because your 23 inch monitor is too small? If you answer yes, then Nexus 10 because you are a size whore.
If you are just as comfortable working on your laptop at home when you have a nice big all in one desktop collecting dust, then you are not a size whore and will make due with a Nexus 7 and receive the portability benefits.
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I have a desktop with 3 large monitors and I remote desktop into my work laptop because of the screen size...
... I'm a size whore.
I am a Galaxy Nexus user, and I plan to upgrade to the N4 as soon as I can get one here in China.
I had a Sony Tablet S that I really enjoyed. When the N7 was released this summer, I sold my Tablet S and bought the N7 with a solid chunk of cash left over.
For me, going from the 9+" screen to the 7" screen was surprisingly satisfying. I find the N7 to be the perfect size. It's great for browsing, reading, and watching videos, at least for me. I love being able to comfortably use it with one hand, and it's super portable. It's perfect on a plane or train, and it's the only device I touch when I'm at home.
My phone is what I have with me whenever I'm out though. If I have a meeting, when I'm running around the office, or when I'm out partying on the weekends,I always have my phone. So I think the combo is ideal. I haven't really been tempted by the N10 because I already know I don't prefer that size.
I did debate getting a Note 2 to replace the two devices, but at the price you can get them for, why not have both, with a tablet that has even more screen real estate? And, as was mentioned, my battery on each device lasts much longer when they're complementing each other.
I will admit that I wondered if the two devices would be redundant when I bought the N7 this summer, but it hasn't turned out to be the case at all. I love having both.
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Well, I got no problem watching Netflix or videos on the Nexus 7 and it doesn't strain my eyes.
But browsing wise, like Tomatoes8 said, the performance of Chrome on Nexus 7 is really bad, so use Dolphin or flash the AOSP browser instead of Chrome.
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I used Boat Browser which performs great on the Nexus 7. I just found it too small and had to increase the font size. But after increasing the font size, the Verge ran like crap. I tried dolphin and boat browser and it was the same story. Everything worked fine except for the Verge though. It could be that they are such Apple shills that they purposely designed the web page to run like crap on Android though. I wouldn't put it past them. lol
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What about watching video such as Netflix. Does it strain your eyes on the Nexus 7?
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I watch Netflix and HBO Go on my N7 almost nightly, and I have no problem.
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As much as I really want the nexus 10 I'm having second thoughts... for the 500 + shipping I could get a really bomb ass tv.
I'm conflicted.
I know people on here will say go for the tab... and i really do miss having a tab since I sold my tf700... but should I get a tab since I already have a cell phone? I mean it's nice to have, but at the same time I'd really only use it when I'm traveling which isn't too often...and even then i've got my cell phone with games on it. ugh. what to do, what to do...
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As much as I really want the nexus 10 I'm having second thoughts... for the 500 + shipping I could get a really bomb ass tv.
I'm conflicted.
I know people on here will say go for the tab... and i really do miss having a tab since I sold my tf700... but should I get a tab since I already have a cell phone? I mean it's nice to have, but at the same time I'd really only use it when I'm traveling which isn't too often...and even then i've got my cell phone with games on it. ugh. what to do, what to do...
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Well, i think it depends on how often you travel? From my point of view i'm kinda in the same boat, with the added thing of having a young boy who gets bored in the car quite quickly, I was debating if I should buy one or not for the same reasons, then thought, well I can get a holder for the car, then the boy can use it to watch Nemo over and over and over and over again! lol, or play games or do whatever.
So do I want to pay £150 ish to get a half decent DVD player for the car, or can i justify a tablet? I can justify, between me using it when traveling, the missus, and the boy, then yes its worth it.
I think you know if you want it or not, if your racking your brain trying to find a reason to buy it, you don't need it. save your money. When it comes down to it, this is gunna change the tablet market with Android, all the other makers are gunna have to react, in 6 months, with the tegra 4 chips and everything else then their will be better out their. so wait.
I'm actually thinking what do I use a tablet for that my phone doesn't do? Not much. I do game on them if I'm traveling, but I don't travel that far for more than a day or two very often. I actually had a nice gaming laptop that I gave my wife because I never really used it when traveling. lol
nexus 7 AND a tv is looking like a better option right now... or maybe just a really nice tv.
Or get a really nice tv and stream your phone screen to the tv instead.
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I'm actually thinking what do I use a tablet for that my phone doesn't do? Not much. I do game on them if I'm traveling, but I don't travel that far for more than a day or two very often. I actually had a nice gaming laptop that I gave my wife because I never really used it when traveling. lol
nexus 7 AND a tv is looking like a better option right now... or maybe just a really nice tv.
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Yeah but what can a 7" tablet offer what a mobile phone can't? Neither is as comfortable for browsing and media consumption as a print quality 10" tablet, and this is why I have no interest in 7"-ers. A phone and a 10" tab. Phone and convertible. Phone and ultrabook. Phone and desktop computer. Phone and... a slightly bigger phone? Meh.
If you're unsure, hold out, it can be a lot of money to some people. Wait at least until some solid reviews are out and make a decision.
You should only be an early adaptor if you can justify spending the cash on something you really don't need.
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ya I want another tablet for sure, but the infinity kind of burned me with the horrible io performance. i will wait until i'm in a better financial place after the holidays and see what third party tablet makers put out since the nexus 10 will obviously be a big influence for them if they want to compete.
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ya I want another tablet for sure, but the infinity kind of burned me with the horrible io performance. i will wait until i'm in a better financial place after the holidays and see what third party tablet makers put out since the nexus 10 will obviously be a big influence for them if they want to compete.
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I'm still expecting Google to make a price/storage adjustment in a couple months, just like they did with the N7. Don't think I mean that the base price will drop below $399 tho.
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Or get a really nice tv and stream your phone screen to the tv instead.
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Mmhm.. and you'll get about half the usability of a tablet. Same virtual real estate as a phone, scaled up to a big and beautiful 40". Nice.
Personally, I'm planning on both the 4 and the 10 from the Nexus line. I see the phone as a more portable substitute for the 10 if I'm not hauling my bag around, plus it's quicker to just pull out of my pocket. But if I'm on a train or otherwise waiting/chilling in one place (like on my bed or something), I'd rather I had the tablet. That's why I haven't considered a 7-inch tablet, either.
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It depends on how much you use your phone. I was convinced that tablets are gimmicky and useless until I bought a galaxy note and started using it for all my media consumption, games and Web browsing. Recently I even started to get annoyed with how small my note was (desktop websites look cramped) so I pulled the trigger this week and got my first tablet.
Long story short, if you don't feel like you absolutely need a tablet (or if you really need that tv) then hold on a little bit.
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I've got a 4.3" phone, a 4.7" phone, a 5.3" phone, four (count 'em, 4) 7" tablets, an 8.9 inch tablet, used to have a 10.1 (and next week I'll have a N10).
Different horses for different courses. Phone is always with me, so it gets a lot of use by default...when I'm not at home. Once I get home, it goes on the charger and unless I get a call or text, I don't use it. It's an inferior entertainment/consumption device compared to a tablet.
My 7" tablets also travel with me quite a bit, often coming to work with me, and I'll whip out my current favorite, the N7, when I'm on a longer trip by plane, train, or automobile instead of my phone. It'll move about the house or hotel room with me as, mostly for ebook reading and light surfing. Biggest benefit is much better battery life than my phone so no in-flight charging worries, and it's damned near perfect for books (and light surfing).
My 8.9/10" tablets are more for home use, and usually hang out near the couch. I'll bring one on a trip if it's for more than a few days, but it never comes to the office with me. At home though, it gets used a LOT. Besides the couch, it's my bathroom Netflix/DLNA weapon of choice, it's a better surfing and magazine experience, and in some cases a better gaming experience as well. Plus hands-down it's better for productivity tasks (documents and spreadsheets) than a phone or a 7" tablet.
So I have a use case for all my various sized Android devices, and there's no one-size-fits-all device in that collection. But if I had to cut my devices down, I'd be able to get by with just the phone and a 8.9-10" tablet. The 7" is nice, but a bit more narrow-focused (and I could probably sub my N7 out for a good Kindle or Nook eInk device, if it came to that, since it's mostly used as a reader).
got a nice 42 inch sharp aquos 120hz tv... but i still have the void that a tablet should fill. LOL I think i'll wait not only due to money reasons, but to see if a 64gb comes out, or if I really would even use one... I think a 7inch phone is what i'm holding out for one portable device i can use on the couch, the bed, or anywhere and it'll have enough screen real estate... but the nexus 10 looks oh so good. If sprint had the 7 on mobile contract i'd buy it.
Hello,
In the past few weeks I have been getting pretty excited about getting a nexus 10.
Mainly due to the large screen with its insane resolution.
I have been an android user since my first smartphone.
Currently I have a Galaxy Nexus and a nexus 7.
I love the 7. It has great portability and I take it outside often due to its small size.
I am however thinking about adding a nexus 10 to my gadgets because when at home doing mainly couch browsing, I wish for a bigger screen, especially to use chrome.
However in the last few days I saw that for just a bit more I can buy an ultra book with a 13 inch screen hard drive, 4 gb of ram and not too much weight.
On that price range the screen is just 1366x768, but for a 13 inch laptop it might be enough.
So, hanging on the fence here.
What should I go for?
Nexus 10 or ultra book?
Cheers
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I've been using a 13 inch Macbook Pro for a couple of years and am replacing it with the Nexus 10.
Having recently gotten a PC again, I've found myself using my Mac less and less. With a powerful PC, the only thing I really needed my mac for was for internet access on the go and so my mac had basically become a cumbersome internet machine - something that a tablet is far more suited to.
It all depends on what you want to use it for. I do photo editing, light pc gaming and lots of internet browsing. My PC can handle all of that and when I want to be mobile a tablet is a more practical option than a laptop. I wouldn't want to just have a tablet because of the things I do use my PC for, but if I was just internet browsing then I could probably manage with just a tablet.
If you want something for couch browsing, then why would you pay more for a laptop which is more cumbersome to use than a tablet? The specs on the ultrabook are fairly average, and if you're only planning on using it for things a tablet could easily accomplish, then you may as well save the money and buy the thing suited for the task.
I was in the same boat like you last week, i ended up buying a Asus Zenbook Prime for $1,030 with Window 8, can't compare a Android tablet to a full PC, now if you want both a tablet with a full PC i would look at something like this
http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/tablet-pcs/XE700T1C-A01US
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-ATIV-Smart-Pro-700T/dp/B0098O9TRO
BTW that thing has the same spec as my Zenbook but has a better SSD then my Ultrabook
Thank you for the replies.
Currently I just have my Galaxy Nexus and nexus 7.
I don't currently own a computer.
My wife has a laptop I use when I need to do something pc related like using the nexus toolkit and torrents and such.
But that kind of use is not too frequent.
I like android os as I use Google services and having everything in sync between the devices is a plus.
I use Tapatalk to browse the forums on the 7 and some apps like ebay and imdb for specific uses.
When I use my Nexus 7 at home I wish it was bigger. I find it strange bit cumbersome to use chrome with several open tabs and for more intensive Web browsing.
So the nexus 10 looks like an option to me.
I don't work with a computer at home. For Work i have the office computer.
So, my doubts:
- would a nexus 10 overlap my Nexus 7 and one of the devices become redundant?
- would the 10 inch screen of the nexus 10 be big enough to overcome the limitations I find on the 7?
- would an ultra book be more agile and faster?
- would an ultra book be comfortable to use without a table or desk? Just for couch surf?
Don't know which side to turn.
Cheers
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I dont know about this it might be dumb or you might end up challenging yourself but have you never thought of building your "own" computer, here is just one of million example, this is on the extreme side since its water cooled
http://www.overclock.net/t/1277018/build-log-first-wc-build-nzxt-switch-810-matte-black
You dont have to go crazy, this is my own pc, i built this back in February-March of this year
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So, my doubts:
- would a nexus 10 overlap my Nexus 7 and one of the devices become redundant?
- would the 10 inch screen of the nexus 10 be big enough to overcome the limitations I find on the 7?
- would an ultra book be more agile and faster?
- would an ultra book be comfortable to use without a table or desk? Just for couch surf?
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Ultrabook Cons:
If you buy a Windows 8 ultrabook now, you're going to regret it in a few months once Haswell comes out. You paying about $800 - $1200 (ultrabook - ultrabook convertible) for something that will last only about 4-7 hours. Wait about half a year and the Haswell chips should allow at least 7 hours of use.
Tablets would be far more comfortable on your lap. Also considering how ultrabooks have air vents, if you block a vent on accident, your ultrabook might end up frying itself. So I'd think ultrabooks are far more comfortable to use on a table or desk.
Ultabrook Pros:
Ultrabooks are far far far far more powerful than tablets. You can't deny it. An i5 or i7 processor will blow any other mobile chips out of the water. So the performance will definitely be more "agile and faster."
My recommendation is that you either wait for the Haswell chips to be used in Ultrabooks or just go with the Nexus 10.
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Ultrabooks are far far far far more powerful than tablets. You can't deny it. An i5 or i7 processor will blow any other mobile chips out of the water. So the performance will definitely be more "agile and faster."
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But who needs a far more powerful machine just for web browsing and watching videos.
If you need to be able to run demanding Windows programs, then by all means get an ultrabook. If it's just going to be used for light casual tasks like web browsing, the tablet is the better/cheaper option.
The only thing I'm concerned about with the Nexus 10 is what the screen quality is like. No, not the resolution, the black level & colours. If it's anything like the Note 10.1 it will be very good imo.
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But who needs a far more powerful machine just for web browsing and watching videos.
If you need to be able to run demanding Windows programs, then by all means get an ultrabook. If it's just going to be used for light casual tasks like web browsing, the tablet is the better/cheaper option.
The only thing I'm concerned about with the Nexus 10 is what the screen quality is like. No, not the resolution, the black level & colours. If it's anything like the Note 10.1 it will be very good imo.
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Had a wild idea today.
I can get a new ipad 4 for a sweet price of 400 euros.
The same price that the nexus 10 is supposed to cost from the play store.
Should I give the ipad a chance?
Or is the nexus 10 better?
How would the ipad play with my Android devices in the terms of syncing email, calendar, contacts?
Cheers
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gdourado said:
Had a wild idea today.
I can get a new ipad 4 for a sweet price of 400 euros.
The same price that the nexus 10 is supposed to cost from the play store.
Should I give the ipad a chance?
Or is the nexus 10 better?
How would the ipad play with my Android devices in the terms of syncing email, calendar, contacts?
Cheers
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It depends if you can live with their walled garden eco system. But you do get more optimized apps and games.
I wouldn't get one personally. Android allows me to do almost everything I can do on my laptop. IOS is too limiting for me. I also don't like Apple, but that's another story.
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It depends if you can live with their walled garden eco system. But you do get more optimized apps and games.
I wouldn't get one personally. Android allows me to do almost everything I can do on my laptop. IOS is too limiting for me. I also don't like Apple, but that's another story.
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I used to use apple computers. Sold my latest imac this year.
I liked it more than windows.
Trouble free.
I never had a ios device.
But for what I use the tablet, I guess I could make do with an ipad, and the 4:3 screen is sweet for Web browsing.
And Google has a gmail app and chrome app, so I guess it would be doable.
I guess I could buy it and if I don't like it, sell it.
Thoughs?
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But who needs a far more powerful machine just for web browsing and watching videos.
If you need to be able to run demanding Windows programs, then by all means get an ultrabook. If it's just going to be used for light casual tasks like web browsing, the tablet is the better/cheaper option.
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Definitely. That is why the ultrabook is far more versatile and can become your tablet, laptop, computer, etc. But if you don't need Windows software, then you're 100% right. The money doesn't justify simple internet browsing and casual gaming.
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I used to use apple computers. Sold my latest imac this year.
I liked it more than windows.
Trouble free.
I never had a ios device.
But for what I use the tablet, I guess I could make do with an ipad, and the 4:3 screen is sweet for Web browsing.
And Google has a gmail app and chrome app, so I guess it would be doable.
I guess I could buy it and if I don't like it, sell it.
Thoughs?
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I don't want to weigh in here too much since I don't own an iPad, but if you're not someone who likes tweaking things, the iPad certainly looks like the choice of your device. "Best user experience" is based on you. "Feeling walled in" to the ecosystem, while maybe true, certainly won't be a problem for someone who simply likes a trouble free device.
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Definitely. That is why the ultrabook is far more versatile and can become your tablet, laptop, computer, etc. But if you don't need Windows software, then you're 100% right. The money doesn't justify simple internet browsing and casual gaming.
I don't want to weigh in here too much since I don't own an iPad, but if you're not someone who likes tweaking things, the iPad certainly looks like the choice of your device. "Best user experience" is based on you. "Feeling walled in" to the ecosystem, while maybe true, certainly won't be a problem for someone who simply likes a trouble free device.
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I would probably prefer the nexus 10.
The problem is that Google does not sell it trough the play store here in Portugal.
So I will probably have to resort to some sort of tricks to buy one or will have to pay more than the play store price of 399 euros.
The ipad I can pickup the new 4 here with a company cuppon for 410 euros...
So the easiness of purchase makes me want to try the ipad.
If only google could come to their senses in regard to distribution of their products...
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I would probably prefer the nexus 10.
The problem is that Google does not sell it trough the play store here in Portugal.
So I will probably have to resort to some sort of tricks to buy one or will have to pay more than the play store price of 399 euros.
The ipad I can pickup the new 4 here with a company cuppon for 410 euros...
So the easiness of purchase makes me want to try the ipad.
If only google could come to their senses in regard to distribution of their products...
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Tbh I just can't get by the fact that ios won't let you change the default browser. Currently on my sgs3 I don't have a default browser so every time I click on something it asks me what browser I want to use. Also I like having a user accessible file system because it just makes downloading things like pdfs and such so much easier. I just wanted to throw this out there because I considered buying an ipad due to the gpu, but have decided not to due to the obvious os limitations.
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Hello,
In the past few weeks I have been getting pretty excited about getting a nexus 10.
Mainly due to the large screen with its insane resolution.
I have been an android user since my first smartphone.
Currently I have a Galaxy Nexus and a nexus 7.
I love the 7. It has great portability and I take it outside often due to its small size.
I am however thinking about adding a nexus 10 to my gadgets because when at home doing mainly couch browsing, I wish for a bigger screen, especially to use chrome.
However in the last few days I saw that for just a bit more I can buy an ultra book with a 13 inch screen hard drive, 4 gb of ram and not too much weight.
On that price range the screen is just 1366x768, but for a 13 inch laptop it might be enough.
So, hanging on the fence here.
What should I go for?
Nexus 10 or ultra book?
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It really depends on what your goal is and how much you are willing to pay.
Personally, the most action packed system on the market (soon to be) is as someone else mentioned Ativ Smart Pro. Here is quick list of why:
Ativ Smart Pro
+Full HD screen - I owned Transformer Infinity and have seen iPad 3 a few times. The screen resolution jump from regular screen i.e. iPad 2, or current android tablets to Infinity's full HD screen was big. From full HD to Retina display did not seem as much. But certainly, good to have high resolution.
+Wacom stylus - I had Galaxy Note 10.1 for little. Capative screen with just stylus is markedly different in accuracy and experience compared to inductive pen technology.
+ Real windows - The Windows store market is nowhere that of Android or iOS; however, when you add legacy windows applications, things totally change.
+ Keyboard dock - Can use as real ultrabook PC
+ Expandable memory - One reason I am really holding myself back from buying Nexus 10. This was one of the major reason I jumped from iOS to Android.
Major downsides
-Price $1200 - Considering this is real ultrabook PC, and high end tablet. If you buy both, it may perhaps cost similar but still a bit too expensive. Plus as stated below, the tablet experience may not be as perfect.
-Battery life - Listed 9 hours, but in reality it may be like 4-5 hours (rumor)
- Weight - Close to 1.9 lbs is a bit heavy for pure tablet.
Alternatively, Ativ Smart PC or other atom based real Windows 8 tablet may be a valid option. It has Atom processor i.e. slower than i5; however, longer battery life, lighter weight. However, it does not have Full HD. But cost is cheaper like $600-$700. It is atom underpowered for real full blown PC power i.e. you won't be able to play skyrim or high end graphics game, but still has Wacom stylus, MS office, and even sunspider benchmark is still faster than any other Android or iPad 4.
HoushaSen said:
Major downsides
-Price $1200 - Considering this is real ultrabook PC, and high end tablet. If you buy both, it may perhaps cost similar but still a bit too expensive. Plus as stated below, the tablet experience may not be as perfect.
-Battery life - Listed 9 hours, but in reality it may be like 4-5 hours (rumor)
- Weight - Close to 1.9 lbs is a bit heavy for pure tablet.
Alternatively, Ativ Smart PC or other atom based real Windows 8 tablet may be a valid option. It has Atom processor i.e. slower than i5; however, longer battery life, lighter weight. However, it does not have Full HD. But cost is cheaper like $600-$700. It is atom underpowered for real full blown PC power i.e. you won't be able to play skyrim or high end graphics game, but still has Wacom stylus, MS office, and even sunspider benchmark is still faster than any other Android or iPad 4.
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For $1200, I would much rather have a $400 Nexus 10 and a $800 ultrabook instead of one compromised machine. I really wouldn't recommend anyone to get a X86 tablet until Haswell comes out.
As an Android lover... if you're not interested in tweaking or customizing your device, and/or are not willing to put up with lots of workarounds and the like, get an iDevice. I'm sure android will eventually be just as polished with just as many tablet apps, but right now you'll need a thick skin and a love for the platform itself to want the N10 over a iPad4.
That said, there are certainly many advantages to the Nexus 10 for me and my uses, and I wouldn't trade it for an iPad in a million years. But if you care about a smooth experience, get an iPad.
I'm taking the jump into getting an Android tablet, and with the price difference between the Nexus 7 and Nexus 10 not being THAT much, i'm torn between the two.
I currently have the Samsung Galaxy S3 and use it to an inch of it's potential so to speak. Mod it, break it, mod it some more, game, wireless controlling, and of course the usual things you do with a phone.
What i am currently researching is the potential to use it as a audio controller to map beats, on-the-fly effects, and recording/sampling/looping with my Guitar and Mic. I understand the iPad's do lead in this technology due to the connector to allow for a multiple of inputs. But, excusing profanity... FnCK Apple.
I need real users to tell me honestly, and truthfully the capabilities they know by first hand experience, and what they have read for me to make a decision on these two devices. I understand this is somewhat opening the can of worms that is Android, so please keep it simple and brief. This is a hard decision!
Thank you for your times guys,
Steve.
this is the nexus 10 subforum.. In here ppl will tell you to buy the nexus 10.. I bet you post in the Nexus 7 subforum as well... lol
easy choice for me. I'd never buy a 7 inch tablet no matter how good it is.
There are other threads like this too...Do what you want. If you are going to use it for web, movies, magazine, I'd say go for the 10...if you want a portable E-reader go for the 7. Go to the store and try the 7 and a different 10 inch tablet to see how they feel for you.
I have a gs3 as well and had a nexus 7. The screen size isn't that much of a difference to justify it in the nexus 7 area. The nexus 10 is rly great and works great. Also 10 in screen is just great when you have a larger phone like you and I.
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You know that's very true. I have a big phone, so to get the most out of either tablet, i guess screen size (Due to the S3 being a big phone) is actually important. I've never actually seen the Nexus 10 tab up close but i'm guessing i'm going to sex wee some what. Does this thing really fly?
I have a N7 and an iPad 1 now and wanted to upgrade the iPad but am moving away from apple.
The two sized devices sort of have separate use-cases. The larger device sits on my coffee table for quick surfing and email checks while the n7 is always in my bag. I travel constantly and there are many times I need to look something up on the web/calendar/email when I have enough time to not have to use my phone but don't want to pull out my laptop....
Think about where/how you are going to use it (does it need to be REALLY portable or not).
My n10 is due to be delivered Monday, but I have been using the n7 since launch and am very happy with it.
I have ZERO musical experience with EITHER device.
However I own them BOTH (the 7 and the 10) and I'm telling you right now that if you're even remotely torn between the two - GET THE 10.
All you need to do is SEE IT to know. Here is my "Nexii" picture:
https://plus.google.com/116992953847984037990/posts/MXDqFkfsHPq
The 7 is on the left - see what I mean?
Yes, i see exactly. I'd be using it to read music off it as well so the size of the N7 does seem just that little bit small. The N10 seems pretty perfect to sit on my book stand as well! Specially with the crazy resolution of the device things will be crystal clear even with the file being fully shown and not zoomed in. Right now - I think the N10 is winning this race!
I'm in a similar dilemma...for your purpose, reading music I think its a no brainer. The picture above says it all, N10 is the clear winner. I'm still not sure if I'm keeping the N10. I'm definitely buying one once its released at Walmart. The N7 is an awesome device and for its size alone is why I think it suits my needs better but until I have the N10 I won't know.
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So i have made the decision to go with the Nexus 10. If the hardware specs were swapped around, i would still go for the Nexus 10. I'm wanting a tablet that was going to last at least it's warranty, wasn't going to go "out dated". I feel the screen specifically will be the benchmark for future tablets. That and i don't think there's any reason to go any higher on the resolution part, and i'm picky!
Thank you for the few on XDA that gave me some truly valid input! But i'm now plagued with "Out of Stock" on google. I will have my Nexten!
Stevan
I have both.
Nexus 10:
PROS:
- You can surf the web like your computer does 100% all the time. (ex: you don't need tapatalk for this forum, I use it in the nexus 7).
- Everysingle Google app it's better IMO. They use the Tablet version, while the Nexus 7 uses modified smartphone versions.
- Screen it's out of this world and has better sensitivity (read below).
- This probably nobody said it before: Nexus 7 lacks good sensitivity in shorter distances. I really like to draw in my tablet, I have a Dagi Stylus and it works like a charm in both tablets. But when I try to draw like 1cm. lines in the nexus 7 (or simply details) it doesn't work, you gotta always zoom in, which some times in unpleasant. If you don't zoom in it draws nothing or like a pixel so it's like there is a longer detection threshold or something (can be the software also, idk). All this in "Sketchbook PRO" app.
- Sketchbook PRO lags a lot in the Nexus 7 and seems not really optimized at least, IDK (it gets worse as you add more layers and more detail to my image). In the other hand it flies in my Nexus 10 even drawing pixels (x2) it seems fluid and the stylus works great. (You can't change the canvas size in sketchbook PRO, it's always 2560x1504 I think). It's way easier to work in tiny distances when I bought my Nexus 10 it was one of the first things I tried since it was so much fail in the Nexus 7. See in the Sketch I did the morning it arrived without too much efford without having to Zoom in and zoom out to draw some random lines of grass to add some noise to the ground.
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- Battery seems similar to me (I usually don't play anything in my tablets).
- Sound it WAY WAY WAY better, you can feel the sounds coming in diferent directions.
- Whatever they said I love all the design all around.
- Reading documents it's 100% reliable in the Nexus 10 and sometimes feels short in the Nexus 7 as not all of your doucments are formatted for the screen, you may not be able to read wide PDF's in the Nexus 7 confortably. Nexus 10 works for everything. Which for me was one the most importan features of the tablet.
- Overall seems faster in the OS than the Nexus 7 and faster in this games also: Final fantasy III, Chaos rings.
- You got a rear camera (which I'll never use).
- You a rear camera LED (which I'll frequently use as a light), with a switch widget.
CONS:
- It's heavier and after one hour of holding it you can feel it. Like your hands feel really tired.
- It's wider so you must use it like a tray (90% of the time you will hold it as a tray). Sucks.
- It's bigger and I feel discouraged to take it with me everywhere. I don't think I would take it to my work.
- Some smartphone optimized apps feels like "decent" in the Nexus 7 in the Nexus 10 they look horrible. And there's several of them.
- Some apps crash the tablet. There's several of them also.
- Charging is slow.
- As you read with the lights off, the Nexus 10 and his Bigger screen throws a sillion more light into your eyes, result: Eyes more tired.
- No Tegra 3 optimized games.
- No $20 bucks for apps.
Nexus 7:
PROS:
- Light as a feather, I never got tired of holding it in my hand. Super confortable.
- Perfect wide. There's so many positions to hold it.
- Size and weight feels perfect for carrying around, sometime in the future I may just get a Nokia 3310 and a Nexus 7 with 3g.
- Smartphone apps don't feel that weird.
- Had just a couple of crashes in 2 months. One being after drwaing like 2 hours in Sketchbook, I was sooo pissed.
- Charging is decent.
- Everygame android game in earth should work on this Tegra 3 baby.
- Cheap as hell. Feels like I'm robbing the store.
- For this price it's more premium than the most premium.
- Screen it's really good, you can barely barely see the pixels here.
- It's stylish and cool.
- Size and price it's the perfect balanced between everything. You sacrifice a little functionality for moviility, etc. 10" tablets can do this as well if you dare.
- When I bought it I got $20 bucks for google play apps (idk if that exist anymore).
CONS:
- Cannot 100% replace your laptop web surfing. Screen falls short sometimes.
- Bad screen sensitivity (or maybe bad optimized app, read above).
- Batterys seems similar to me.
- Average / just decent sound. (maybe bad sometimes)
- Several of them came with screen defects (mine included), it's not really a big problem, but WTF.
- As I said, Google apps use a slighly smartphone modified apps for the nexus 7, in the other hand, for the Nexus 10 they use the tablet app.
- Reading bad optimized documents can be a pain in the a** (usually pdf's with wide white colums at the sides which are really really common), with infinite zooming panning, etcetera. If your document has no ilustrations you can work around it, but with them no.
Overall I use more the Nexus 10. Nexus 7 seems excellent for short travels and stuff like that etcetera. But for me in day to day use at home. No doubt. I preffer the big one.
I am saying that as a HAPPY Nexus 10 owner, if you're using this for music creation/editing purposes, make sure first that they have applications that fit your needs on the google play store. As much as I love android, its gaming selection, the awesome ability to root your device, etc., I do admit Apple does have a good amount of apps we don't yet or ever will get, and I know on the Mac side of things Media creation of ANY type is usually better than PC, and I also say that as a PC user and general Anti-Apple person. So if music creation/editing is your #1 concern, you might just have to bite the bullet. Or the Apple.
I owe a nexus 4 and also owe laptop and desktop pc. Is the nexus 10 gonna help me?
First of all I want it since in august I'll start university so it will help for books on pdf, taking notes and since I'll enter to computer sciences I expect to use it for others things that I'll reach on school.
But I don't really know what is having a tablet, maybe I can do it all with a laptop but sometimes I think watching movies, comics, books, gaming and surfing Web is enough + utilities on school for getting it.
Any advice?
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Nethojs29 said:
I owe a nexus 4 and also owe laptop and desktop pc. Is the nexus 10 gonna help me?
First of all I want it since in august I'll start university so it will help for books on pdf, taking notes and since I'll enter to computer sciences I expect to use it for others things that I'll reach on school.
But I don't really know what is having a tablet, maybe I can do it all with a laptop but sometimes I think watching movies, comics, books, gaming and surfing Web is enough + utilities on school for getting it.
Any advice?
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I've got a beastly desktop, laptop, and a decent phone. The tablet goes with me to stores and such so I can look things up on the go, or to work (I'm a teacher) so that I can take attendance on it. Its much more mobile than a laptop while providing, with the right apps. most of the functionality.
I would wait to see what the next galaxy note tablet is going to be. You could use a bluetooth keyboard if you'd rather type your notes and use the spen if you need to jot down formulas or charts.
If you have a newer laptop, I wouldn't recommend getting a regular tablet like the nexus 10 if you want it for school.
Me personally, I have a powerful desktop with two monitors for my main bulk of school work at home. I bring a netbook to class for notes (I download the PowerPoint's and convert them to PDF. Using acrobat pro, I can type notes just like if I were writing on the print out). The netbook is a bit old and weak but gets the job done for now.
With something like the galaxy note, you can have everything consolidated on your tablet(PDFs, PowerPoint's,hand written notes, types notes, ebooks ect) all in a compact device. Then use your desktop for more productive things and you could probably sell your laptop.
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I owe a nexus 4 and also owe laptop and desktop pc. Is the nexus 10 gonna help me?
First of all I want it since in august I'll start university so it will help for books on pdf, taking notes and since I'll enter to computer sciences I expect to use it for others things that I'll reach on school.
But I don't really know what is having a tablet, maybe I can do it all with a laptop but sometimes I think watching movies, comics, books, gaming and surfing Web is enough + utilities on school for getting it.
Any advice?
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Personally, I don't find tablets with (solely) capacitive touch screens to be useful for notetaking. They aren't accurate enough to take down diagrams and formulas much better than pen and paper. In fact, the best solution I've found has been using a LiveScribe pen to import those kinds of information into OneNote. On the other hand, if you've got any professors who are enamored of open-source formats like PDF, tablets are a great way to read on the go, and for that purpose I highly recommend them.
They're also great for most of what you named, but importantly tablets can go into "tighter" places. Your dorm room bed, a couch, or some other random place on campus are good candidates. If you've got a small bag, they're also one of those things you can toss in as a "just in case" if you need to do something your phone is unsuitable for, but don't want to bring your laptop for.
I'd recommend honestly looking into a Windows convertible, or, if you don't like the big M, go for an active-digitizer tablet. That basically means the Note at this point, unless you go hunting for one of Lenovo's offerings.
The Nexus 10 is a great tablet though, so buy with confidence if you feel a tablet is for you.
Nethojs29 said:
I owe a nexus 4 and also owe laptop and desktop pc. Is the nexus 10 gonna help me?
First of all I want it since in august I'll start university so it will help for books on pdf, taking notes and since I'll enter to computer sciences I expect to use it for others things that I'll reach on school.
But I don't really know what is having a tablet, maybe I can do it all with a laptop but sometimes I think watching movies, comics, books, gaming and surfing Web is enough + utilities on school for getting it.
Any advice?
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This hits it on the head:
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They're also great for most of what you named, but importantly tablets can go into "tighter" places. Your dorm room bed, a couch, or some other random place on campus are good candidates. If you've got a small bag, they're also one of those things you can toss in as a "just in case" if you need to do something your phone is unsuitable for, but don't want to bring your laptop for.
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I only use my tablet around the house and it's perfect for the living room or the bed, when I don't want to carry my ultrabook with its superfluous keyboard with me. The ultrabook is pretty light, a little less than 3 lbs, but the Nexus 10 is less than half that at 1.33 lbs. I can have a nice big, high-res screen with me at all times, one that isn't as heavy as lugging my ultrabook around.
With a tablet, you too can have a computer at your fingertips at all times! :victory:
That said, I agree with Sher and Rirere that the Nexus 10 may not be the best for writing with a stylus, though I haven't tried it. I'd guess the Note 10 would be better for that, since it has a digitizer built in. I always suggest that you try these devices out in a store before buying. I don't think an Android tablet will help you in computer science classes either, as they probably don't do anything with Android, plus you'll need a stand to keep the tablet up and a bluetooth keyboard to get any serious typing done. All the other content consumption stuff you mentioned is perfect on a tablet though.
The fundamental question is whether you value having a high-res computer with you in more places, because it is more portable than a laptop but with a bigger screen than a smartphone, albeit a computer that isn't that easy to type on unless you get a bluetooth keyboard also.
I have a Nexus 10, a Kindle, a S4 and a good/average laptop, I can tell you that for what you want the Nexus is amazing, if you want to watch a movie on it you'll see how amazing the screen is, surfing the Web is great too, and Android is with some top games, so you can enjoy it easily. If you most want to read comics and books I'd recommend you a Kindle (not the tablet), which is really the best option. Nexus 4 is already a good cellphone, but there are things that after you get hands on a tablet you see how easily they can be.
About school now. Formulas and such has no better companion than pen and paper, I already played a little with a Note 10 on a store, and it's great to handwrite, but I still think that for my math counts using a paper is the best option. However about the computer classes you can use it! Search on amazon for a case with keyboard and there is one which I really like (and have), which is so good that I typed my fanfictions on it, also I used to learn java on my Xoom with an app called "Droid Edit", which is a text editor with syntax highlight, then I installed Terminal IDE and had compiler and everything ready to learn. Guess what? It worked finely !"
And at least, you can install Linux distros on it, so you can get some more things to be done! And also it works greatly .
Hope it helps
~Lord
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I would try and wait till the end of summer to make your decision. Toshiba has just announced three tablets - one lower end tablet, a 2560x1600 Tegra 4 tablet and another identical one, but with a wacom digitizer. Asus has a new 2560x1600 Infinity Transformer also with a Tegra 4. HP has there x2 android tablet coming out which didn't look too bad. Most of these are due for release in Q3 of this year. And on top of it, Samsung is holding a "Galaxy and Ativ" event on the 20th. Ativ will be a Windows device and Galaxy is an android device. Besides the Galaxy camera 2, no one really knows what to expect. Hopefully a new note tablet with better resolution, cause the current resolution is a deal breaker for a lot of people.
The Nexus ten is now a good 7 months old, although will probably be better priced than all of the above. The Tegra 4 could be great, but also could be terrible. I enjoyed my Nexus 10 when I had it earlier this year, but I think there are much better options for a school tablet coming out.
Also, I believe Intel is releasing there updated Atom processor (what Netbooks and lower range windows tabs use) towards the end of the year and is supposed to have greatly improved graphics, power, and battery life. Some of the current lower end Windows tablets run full windows 8 (like the Ativ 500T and also has a wacom digitizer for about $550) and they aren't terrible, though can be a bit sluggish. There battery life is also comparable to an android tablet.
Lastly, for school, a windows tablet may be a better choice since you won't have any compatibility issues like with android browsers. If your teacher uses online problems, demos, or chat rooms, you could run into issues running these things. I'm leaning slightly more towards Windows at the moment just for those reasons, but it all depends on how these products compare. If the android tablet is much smoother and has better battery life for 2/3 of the price, I'll just wait to get home to do something not compatible.
I've been in the same boat looking for something for school and my netbook is holding me off till the new products are released. I would recommend doing the same with your laptop, unless you can't afford more than the $400 for the Nexus 10.
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I would try and wait till the end of summer to make your decision. Toshiba has just announced three tablets - one lower end tablet, a 2560x1600 Tegra 4 tablet and another identical one, but with a wacom digitizer. Asus has a new 2560x1600 Infinity Transformer also with a Tegra 4. HP has there x2 android tablet coming out which didn't look too bad. Most of these are due for release in Q3 of this year. And on top of it, Samsung is holding a "Galaxy and Ativ" event on the 20th. Ativ will be a Windows device and Galaxy is an android device. Besides the Galaxy camera 2, no one really knows what to expect. Hopefully a new note tablet with better resolution, cause the current resolution is a deal breaker for a lot of people.
The Nexus ten is now a good 7 months old, although will probably be better priced than all of the above. The Tegra 4 could be great, but also could be terrible. I enjoyed my Nexus 10 when I had it earlier this year, but I think there are much better options for a school tablet coming out.
Also, I believe Intel is releasing there updated Atom processor (what Netbooks and lower range windows tabs use) towards the end of the year and is supposed to have greatly improved graphics, power, and battery life. Some of the current lower end Windows tablets run full windows 8 (like the Ativ 500T and also has a wacom digitizer for about $550) and they aren't terrible, though can be a bit sluggish. There battery life is also comparable to an android tablet.
Lastly, for school, a windows tablet may be a better choice since you won't have any compatibility issues like with android browsers. If your teacher uses online problems, demos, or chat rooms, you could run into issues running these things. I'm leaning slightly more towards Windows at the moment just for those reasons, but it all depends on how these products compare. If the android tablet is much smoother and has better battery life for 2/3 of the price, I'll just wait to get home to do something not compatible.
I've been in the same boat looking for something for school and my netbook is holding me off till the new products are released. I would recommend doing the same with your laptop, unless you can't afford more than the $400 for the Nexus 10.
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I honestl yplan to hold on to the N10 until December 2014 and THEN upgrade, since I dropped the $500 on the 32GB model.
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I honestl yplan to hold on to the N10 until December 2014 and THEN upgrade, since I dropped the $500 on the 32GB model.
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How does the Nexus 10 compare to a Nook HD+?
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How does the Nexus 10 compare to a Nook HD+?
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Way above it in every way, so far as I know, as well as more expensive.
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Way above it in every way, so far as I know, as well as more expensive.
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If you don't mind hacking it up though, the Nook HD+ looks like a fun little investment to slap somewhere (like a wall or something as a control panel). It may not make the best tablet but the hardware is good.
+1 for the people recommending paper/pencil. I can't do formulas another way. OP however might want to look into the LiveScribe Sky and a tablet (or use their PC); I believe I saw an ad somewhere showing off live, instant syncing from paper to tablet, which I'll have to look into myself (got a LiveScribe Echo as a work bonus, so I'm sticking with that for the moment).
It's not just a question of having an active digitizer; while the Note pen will wow in stores, writing with a stylus for any duration of time can quickly become, well, annoying. Glass just doesn't have the same tactile feel that a good pen on paper will, you'll get the "clicking" sounds from contact, and you could generally be doing something a lot more useful with your electronic device (like typing bullet points) than scrawling into it with a digitizer.
Unless, of course, by tablet, we're talking about a Wacom drawing pad.
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If you don't mind hacking it up though, the Nook HD+ looks like a fun little investment to slap somewhere (like a wall or something as a control panel). It may not make the best tablet but the hardware is good.
+1 for the people recommending paper/pencil. I can't do formulas another way. OP however might want to look into the LiveScribe Sky and a tablet (or use their PC); I believe I saw an ad somewhere showing off live, instant syncing from paper to tablet, which I'll have to look into myself (got a LiveScribe Echo as a work bonus, so I'm sticking with that for the moment).
It's not just a question of having an active digitizer; while the Note pen will wow in stores, writing with a stylus for any duration of time can quickly become, well, annoying. Glass just doesn't have the same tactile feel that a good pen on paper will, you'll get the "clicking" sounds from contact, and you could generally be doing something a lot more useful with your electronic device (like typing bullet points) than scrawling into it with a digitizer.
Unless, of course, by tablet, we're talking about a Wacom drawing pad.
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Everyone will of course have their preferences, so I'm not trying to argue right or wrong. However, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ATo3ohdwok has certainly influenced me to getting something with a wacom digitizer. She has some other videos showing note taking as well. I hate having a lot of printouts with notes on them. I also don't like typing notes on a computer but then having to draw out charts and math examples on a separate piece of paper. I'd rather have a device I can carry around almost anywhere with great battery life where everything in consolidated. It's also possible to sync to dropbox so you can get the notes on your phone(in PDF, not SNOTE format). Imagine staying on campus for whatever reason and wanting to do work for a class that you didn't bring your notes or text for. You could have everything in your Note tablet to include general handwritten notes.
Also, the note tablet comes with two different tips. One plastic that will feel like super smooth writing on glass and one rubber that has some drag to it that doesn't make "clicking" noises. I would prefer real pen and paper as well mostly because its what I'm used to, but I really like the idea of consolidating everything into one device backed up to the cloud that I can get anywhere. I'm currently doing it with powerpoint notes in dropbox and typed notes in Evernote, but unless I scan or take pictures, I can't get anything I hand write somewhere else.
Edit: I just looked up the Livescribe pen. That is pretty neat. I feel like I'd lose it though. I will continue looking into that as another option.
just thinking of trying a tablet , iPad mini retina is too expensive for me , should i try Nexus 7 2013 ? is the extra 1.8inch size worth it ?
or just just save up and get something next year and stick to Macbook Air + G2 combo ?
hbksabhi said:
just thinking of trying a tablet , iPad mini retina is too expensive for me , should i try Nexus 7 2013 ? is the extra 1.8inch size worth it ?
or just just save up and get something next year and stick to Macbook Air + G2 combo ?
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No Nexus 7 Inch etc. I have that combo... G2 and Nexus 7 and I am selling the Nexus....
Its really no use if its only you who will use it. If more ppl will have access to the tablet etc, maybe, okay.
Also depends how you gonna use it. If you want to have it lying arround at home next to your G2, no use.
If you wanna take it somewhere like on travels, trips, waiting 12 hours in an Airport. And you do not own a laptop. Okay, maybe?
But still its better go for something like N10.
The difference is really not that big that it would be an clear advantage.
I mean if you can choose between 10 inch and 7 inch, and you are not a small woman or man, and then 10 is too big for you, then again 7 might be fine.
I would suggest, go into a store and check the sizes. But the N7 to the G2 om regards of size is not a good reason to consider
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No Nexus 7 Inch etc. I have that combo... G2 and Nexus 7 and I am selling the Nexus....
Its really no use if its only you who will use it. If more ppl will have access to the tablet etc, maybe, okay.
Also depends how you gonna use it. If you want to have it lying arround at home next to your G2, no use.
If you wanna take it somewhere like on travels, trips, waiting 12 hours in an Airport. And you do not own a laptop. Okay, maybe?
But still its better go for something like N10.
The difference is really not that big that it would be an clear advantage.
I mean if you can choose between 10 inch and 7 inch, and you are not a small woman or man, and then 10 is too big for you, then again 7 might be fine.
I would suggest, go into a store and check the sizes. But the N7 to the G2 om regards of size is not a good reason to consider
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Ya i thought the same thing
Ipad air would make more sense
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I have an N7 and I love it. It's a perfect match for the G2, for me.
First off, the market clearly shows the popularity of the 7" format for tablets. After owning an N7 for a year, not only have friends/family switched from the larger iPad format, now when I see people in public using iPads they look downright awkward - kinka like they are lugging around home plate.
Second, the 7" tablet format is friendlier than the G2-sized format for reading and web browsing. Evern though the actual size difference is not as constrasting as it would be with an iPad, the actual usage patterns throughout the day are very different. It's a joy to hold and use my N7 when browsing in front of the TV or reading at bedtime. I don't reach for my G2 for this. Is this a luxury? For me it is - but I like it.
All this said, this is just MY experience. What works for you may be different, and I don't pretend to know what will work for you. Just wanted to share my 2 cents.
I have both, and use both. Really, only you know your life well enough to know how you would use your devices.
I have both and love both. I also have the Xoom and don't like the 10" size. The Nexus 7 can't really be compared to the G2 imo. The experience on the N7 is much better for just about everything.
I have both and love it. Phone is great for being out and about. Tablet is perfect for laying in bed or sitting on the couch. Perfect combo!
I have both and don't be fooled, the screen size difference is significant. I don't play games or read or watch Netflix on my phone. I couldn't live without my N7 and its small enough to fit in my back jeans pocket and its always in my back pack. F iTunes I'd never buy a product that restricted me having to use iTunes or some proprietary software app to connect it to my PC.
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I have both and don't be fooled, the screen size difference is significant. I don't play games or read or watch Netflix on my phone. I couldn't live without my N7 and its small enough to fit in my back jeans pocket and its always in my back pack. F iTunes I'd never buy a product that restricted me having to use iTunes or some proprietary software app to connect it to my PC.
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Yep, big difference in screen size. Yep, Itunes sucks....Google Music is way better and less bloated.
I have G2 and ipad retina 10' , I don't feel like I need a smaller tablet and I have access to both app store. I'd say 80% of my friends have Iphone and ipads so I can talk to them with apple only apps like facetime and imessage.
The best thing about Nexus is portability. Back pocket ftw
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I have both and love it. Phone is great for being out and about. Tablet is perfect for laying in bed or sitting on the couch. Perfect combo!
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Do you carry your nexus 7 worth you or just g2.
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