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any suggestions on securely keeping the minisd card in place. i am on my 3rd card in 4 weeks and its getting kind of annoying at this point. the first time i lost the card was when i dropped the mda and didnt realize the card was missing until the following morning. i lost the 2nd card mysteriously during the night. any suggestions would be helpful, thanks.
Keep the MDA in its case? I haven't lost my MiniSD card and i've had my phone for about 4 weeks, but i keep it in the holster 80% of the time and almost always when i'm not home or it isn't in my hand directly...
How are you using your phone? How are you storing it? Etc.?
it usually in my holster, i just get clumsy at times...pretty sure that i lose the cards when i just drop my phone and forget to check if the card is still in... i was thinking of putting a layer of tape over it...
maybe i should just be more careful
nikegeo said:
maybe i should just be more careful
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....maybe? Tape also sounds like a good idea.
Tape may be tacky, but it sure beats purchasing a new card!!
I lost the fake mini sd card that came with my wizard, but have yet to loose my 1 gig card. I think I would cry...
I have my phone now since June or so and still haven't lost my card - I'd be devastated it it happened, I just realised I need to do a backup of that card !!!
Clear Tape sounds good to me.
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Perhaps your locking mechanism for the minisd card is (semi)broken? You mentioned it had fallen the first time...?
I still have to push the card in pretty hard with my fingernail to get it to pop out, so for your cards to fall out so easily makes you think the minisd card(s) might not lock in correctly?
I have to say I've never had an issue with my card falling out of the slot. It locks in pretty firmly. I suspect a defective slot. Or perhaps you're not pushing it in quite far enough to enable to lock?
nikegeo said:
any suggestions on securely keeping the minisd card in place. i am on my 3rd card in 4 weeks and its getting kind of annoying at this point. the first time i lost the card was when i dropped the mda and didnt realize the card was missing until the following morning. i lost the 2nd card mysteriously during the night. any suggestions would be helpful, thanks.
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Dude after I read this my SD some how came out at a friends house and I didnt know until I tried to run some of my apps of my card. Some skater tape works well and it looks much cooler if you run it all around and cut out the spots for the various items.
Install NotifyMe.. it alerts when your MiniSD pops -out or deliberately removed from the phone.
Just execute the EXE anywhere on the phone and it automatically puts a shortcut on Start - Settings - Personal and configure from there..
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Dude after I read this my SD some how came out at a friends house and I didnt know until I tried to run some of my apps of my card. Some skater tape works well and it looks much cooler if you run it all around and cut out the spots for the various items.
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That's really an... interesting thought. Anyone have any luck with duct tape?
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Perhaps your locking mechanism for the minisd card is (semi)broken? You mentioned it had fallen the first time...?
I still have to push the card in pretty hard with my fingernail to get it to pop out, so for your cards to fall out so easily makes you think the minisd card(s) might not lock in correctly?
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It's also got something to do with the card itself. I have a 2 GB Apacer card which has never popped out, and even after I eject it I have to pull it out by hand, it won't drop out if I shake the phone or turn it upside down.
But I also have an older 512 or 1MB card (don't remember the brand name and can't find it any more). If I just push it in to eject it, it almost flies out of the slot. If I eject it and then hold the phone upside down it just drops out.
So I guess my tip is: If you've lost one, dont buy the same brand/size again without trying it in your phone
thanks for that app and advice guys
da_mayhem - thanks for that program - just tested it out and now at least when im drunk and lose the card ill know to look for it - going into my essential apps folder - thanks again
nikegeo said:
da_mayhem - thanks for that program - just tested it out and now at least when im drunk and lose the card ill know to look for it - going into my essential apps folder - thanks again
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No problem mate..now i'm thinking about how to make my mini sd glow in the dark lol
this may not be wat ur asking, but i always forget my mini sd in my mem card reader >.<
I had recently bought a cingular 8525..... and i bought a scandisk 2gb micro SD card..... but when i try to push the card in it gets stuck and the card doesnt comes out..... i have to remove the battery and pull the card with the clipper...... but the dummy card goes in and comes out perfectly..... wht shall i do.... i have tried this with 2-3 brands micro SD cards
Same here. Althugh with a little fiddeling my Hermes recognised the Card. And as I haven't planned to remove it again any time soon I can live with that.
You have to be carefull when putting the card in. I had the same problem at the start, you have to put it in really straight and make sure you here a click. If you here a scrape, then it get corrupt.
Didn't want to make new thread, so I bumped...
I am having same problem. I tried to put the card in (2 gb sandisk micro SD) and now its stuck and not seen by the Phone. How did the first poster get his out? I looked under the battery, but I don't see an easy way to get to the card. Any help is much appreciated, since I cannot use my card yet...TIA!
ive experienced the same problem. seems like its a "breaking in" issue.
as you get used to putting it in and pulling it out it will ultimately just sink in. meaning, youd be able to click it in and click it out..
never had one problem with the 3 sandisk cards i use..
I did struggle the first time after taking the new Hermes out of the box but no problems since - since the first go I just do it really carefully, making sure it's absolutely straight.
SD cards are a nice, even shape but MicroSD have a funny shape to them - a degree out in insertion angle (oo-er, missus) and it seems you're stumped. Took me ages to get the thing out first time.
Thanks for the help, I was able to get it out with a very small flat screwdriver. It is very sensitive, and I make sure that I get the "click" before I push it all the way in. Thx.
tried taking out my sdhc earlier and seems like i have no problems anymore..
Guys,
Try using forum search. I posted a working solution to this issue here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284672
Dave
Micro SD card issues
I too had the same problem for 2 or 3 times, getting it in is the trick, very delicate.
The first time I inserted it, it didn't register and it wouldn't come out with a click, sort of had to pry it out delicately out of there, the second time, the device recognized it, taking it out it clicked but hesitated a bit, by the third time, no problem. Now it works exactly like it should.
The question is, is it the slot that gets broken-in or the card itself? I have another card on order, I'll know the answer to that soon, allthough I think it's the actual slot inside that assumes the shape it should or something, probably the pins-connectors inside that have to flex a couple of times.
Scary at first but it seems to fix itself.
God I love my phone, is it wrong to be so obsessed with it?
Hi guys i'm new to the TP community, just transferred from HTC Universal. Felt great we have a TP section here in xda
Now i just got my new TP and don't know where to slide in the micro sd card. could anybody shed some light on this?
thanks
Just insert it where it will do you the most good <Note the smiley. Most people will find that location after removing the back cover, on the same side as the stylus, near the wifi button.
I didn't like the fact that I had to remove the cover to get to it, but after getting an 8G card, I've not removed it since. I had one eject on my 6800 once accidentally. This one will not come out unless you really want it out.
got it, thanks
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Just insert it where it will do you the most good <Note the smiley. Most people will find that location after removing the back cover, on the same side as the stylus, near the wifi button.
I didn't like the fact that I had to remove the cover to get to it, but after getting an 8G card, I've not removed it since. I had one eject on my 6800 once accidentally. This one will not come out unless you really want it out.
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unfortunately carriers are starting to catch onto this, and very soon we wont see any memory slots at all- the phones will just come with 16 or 32gb of storage or whatever and that will be it, like the iphone does. i took a long oral survey for sprint, and they seem pretty adiment that most people never take out their memory cards... so they dont see a reason to add to the cost for a slot.
it doesnt bother me so much because i never remove my card either, problem is when i change phones its just way too easy to swap the sd card over and i have everything i need on the new phone instantly. oh well i guess...
Hi, I recently purchased a Dell Venue Pro and I am going to get it some time this weekend. The main concern I have with this phone is the small amount of storage. 8gb is simply not enough for me. Perhaps I missed something, but I've been reading through this forum and haven't found a very good explanation for newbies on how to replace the SD Card. I have actually seen some posts that say that they managed to exchange their 8gb SD Card for a Sandisk 32GB micro SD card Class 2. However, I would like to have some guidance and instruction from someone experienced doing this; I wouldn't want a bricked Dell Venue Pro.
Therefore, could anyone please instruct me with a step by step guide on how to replace my SD card without crashing my system and which sd cards are compatible? Thank you.
Believe me when I tell you this will not work. What you will end up with is a bricked phone that needs to be replaced.
If you have a device that was shipped between December and now you don't have an engineering sample, those are the only devices that can actually format the sd card to the proper filesystem and lock the card down in way you'd expect it to.
If you'd like to test that theory, simply replace the card while it's off. Perform a hard reset on the device (the CAM + VOL DN combination does not work), shut it down and put the card back in an SD reader. It won't be formatted and won't be locked down.
You might be able to format the card on a Windows CE machine with storage manager, but the most I've been able to do is get the SD card test to show a 114 not ok instead of a 115 not ok.
After that, if you're lucky, you'll be able to simply throw the old card back in the device and proceed with enjoying your phone with the original SD card. If you're unlucky your phone will not boot.
Food for thought:
In the diagnostics application there is a button for "Service Center" which displays two boxes: Zune and Composite.
When you press the CAM key during boot this puts the device into a "restore" mode that Zune is supposed to work with at some point in the future.
I'm guessing if we can figure out a way to flip the mode to Composite (currently requires a password) that the "test/debug" bootloader will allow us to format the cards properly.
It's also entirely possible that the reason the engineering samples work and the retail devices don't is that the eng samples are in this mode already.
Wow thanks a lot for the very thorough answer. Do you think we will see memory expansion as a possibility in the near future?
Ok, without trying to insult anyone, 'm gonna call Bullshxt. I now have 3 VP's in my possession. Ok....1 I dropped and it doesn't start any more. But that still leaves 2. On both of them I have removed the SD card, replaced hte card with bigger and smaller SD cards and have even left the SD card slot empty. I have NEVER bricked my phone.
Let's leave performance behind first...and not consider it. Lets just talk about changing cards.
The key to changing cards is process. Take the card out and restart your device, it won't boot. there is no external keys for hard reset. Place that same card back in your device, it will start.
To change out a card, do this:
1. Hard reset your device
2. On the reboot portion, remove the battery and then remove the card
3. Put the battery back in and let the device start up
4. Walk through startup and your phone is ready to use.
Keep this same process each time. You cannot remove a card, without first going through the hard reset process. You cannot add a card with out first going through the hard reset process. The hard reset process initializes the card to the device.
I've done this at least a dozen times, with cards ranging from 2,4, 8 and 16g. I've done it with cards pulled out of Google phones and an HD2. I've done it with cards that have never been used before. Its 1, 2, 3, 4. No matter what combination of removal and add....1,2, 3, 4. Remove a card, its 1,2 ,3, 4. Add a card, 1,2,3,4. Simple.
Now...if you want to talk about Performance....thats another conversation....
Again....no insult intended with the BS call.
Sorry...forgot to add 1 thing.....this has been described on this forum several weeks ago...so...what I'm saying is not a huge discovery from me...but rather from the guy that posted this around christmas.....I just repeated it is all !!!
Oh OK, sweet thanks for the thorough step by step guide! This is exactly what I needed.
A few questions though.
On step 2. you mention a reboot portion. What does that mean? After hard resetting what is my "queue" to remomving my battery and SD Card
Also, you never state in the 4 step process when exactly I put my alternative SD Card in. Would I put it in step 3 when I put my battery in?
Finally, you say Performance is a different story. Are you saying that replacing SD Cards will make the phone slower or more prone to crashing or working less stably?
Thank you.
I think once the phone is ready to use again, you then start the process over again at Step 1, except instead of removing the SD card in Step 2, you put the new one in.
What I want to know is, if taking out the provided SD card voids the warranty, how do you get a new phone without paying for it? Or does the warranty not cover that specification?
none taken, but your claim about the device not booting if you remove the card is false.
It will boot, sans card, with ~15mb of free storage space with no customizations. It's also likely though that if your device does boot into this state, you will never be able to get another SD card to work in it ever again.
Even if it boots into the "no storage" state it's still possible to put in the old card (in most cases) and have it work. I'm just saying that has not been the case for everyone.
Looks like I've found quite a good amount of posts from people stating that they have swapped SD cards succcessfully so might try this if I feel like I require more storage. Would anyone happen to know if there are certain types of SD Cards I should use to make this work? Also, alodar1, you have stated something about performance being another story? Would I be sacrificing performance by swapping cards? What kinds of issues would I be having?
1) Open settings-> about menu in phone
2) Press "reset"
3) Press "yes" twice. The phone will start to reboot.
4) Wait until the phone shuts down and begins to reboot, and take the battery out. NOTE: If you take out the battery too early, it will not work correctly. I waited until I first saw the Dell logo pop up and then pulled the battery, and that worked.
5) Remove the old SD card (I used a very small eyeglass screwdriver to gently pry it out since it isn't spring loaded)
6) Put in new card, replace battery, restart phone
7) Go through the setup process
That should do it. My phone hasn't crashed since I replaced the card on Sunday, so its been a success for me. I have not had any performance issues with my new card - but I suppose that really depends on your card. Granted, I actually downgraded - I went to a Sandisk Class 4 8GB card. Soon enough I'll be getting a 32GB card and trying that one out.
Ah things are much clearer now thank you very much, will try this. I'll pray my phone doesn't go bad... gulp.
Also, are you saying you were a victim of the crashes and replacing the SD Card fixed it?
OK so I'm going to buy an SD Card, a 16gb, so should I go for a class 2 or class 4? What's the difference between the two and is any one of those two incompatible with the venue pro?
Erchino said:
Ah things are much clearer now thank you very much, will try this. I'll pray my phone doesn't go bad... gulp.
Also, are you saying you were a victim of the crashes and replacing the SD Card fixed it?
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Yes - my phone crashed very frequently with the 16GB card. Many times a day. I've now gone a full week without a crash with the new card.
Erchino said:
OK so I'm going to buy an SD Card, a 16gb, so should I go for a class 2 or class 4? What's the difference between the two and is any one of those two incompatible with the venue pro?
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Mine is class 4. The problem here is that there is no official specification. The class rating refers to data transfer speed - but the requirement for Windows Phone 7 is random access speed, which the card manufacturers don't advertise. Early reports actually showed that higher class (6+ cards) actually perform worse in WP7.
I don't have the DVP yet. Will the warranty be void when the SD card is replaced/removed? Thanks.
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I don't have the DVP yet. Will the warranty be void when the SD card is replaced/removed? Thanks.
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Yes, the black tape shows "VOID" after you remove it. A prior warning would be nice, since the tape doesn't say that on the outside.
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Yes, the black tape shows "VOID" after you remove it. A prior warning would be nice, since the tape doesn't say that on the outside.
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Does it really say "VOID"? I removed the tape but I can't discern any letters left on the device. However, I can see an "O" on the tape.
yep, it says VOID and the black VOID letters are left behind when you remove the sticker.
So for those who have replaced their cards, how is the phone holding up? Able to use wifi and the marketplace and IE with no crashes?
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Looks like I've found quite a good amount of posts from people stating that they have swapped SD cards succcessfully so might try this if I feel like I require more storage. Would anyone happen to know if there are certain types of SD Cards I should use to make this work? Also, alodar1, you have stated something about performance being another story? Would I be sacrificing performance by swapping cards? What kinds of issues would I be having?
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sorry for the delay in replying. No, not necessarily. Personally I believe there is an issue with the specific cards Dell used. But what do I know for sure. I swapped to another 16g card...nothing fancy...just directly out of the HD2.....it worked and performance was better. A couple of friends of mine did a similar swap, looking at specific R/W speeds, class types, etc. They had mixed results. So, my guess is, there is something else that is a trigger that no one has hit on yet. I know my 16g performance is not as good as the 8g performance....in smoothness of card access. If I swap down to an 8g card...or even a 4g card....I can see the difference.....the performance is smoother.
Now, this doesn't say that those people with the 32g cards are NOT seeing that smoothness. I'm saying that I tried this as a test because I had cards laying around....and noticed a difference. The difference strongly indicates the shipped 16g cards are not what they should be. But, this does not mean the 32g cards on the market right now are the answer.
HELP !!!
I tried changing my 8GB SD card to a 16GB SD card. it booted up fine everything seemed ok, but when I restart the phone it loses all settings. So I put the original card back in, followed the same steps. Now my phone only sees 16 MEGABYTES of storage, I've tried multiple factory resets, after a reset it doesnt even go through the normal setup process. All it does is go back to the homescreen with only the normal tiles accept all the newsroom, tmobile family room and stuff isn't there either. If I pin an app to the start screen then restart the phone the pinned app is gone from the start up screen can someone PLEASE help, I'd be happy just to get it back to normal, with the original SD card in it
This is the second time and a different card that this has happened with me. I've tried ruu and that doesn't help. I thought maybe there was a file on it that the phone didn't like so I backed up the card and let the phone format it. Problem went away for awhile. I got a faster card and now its doing it again. I had a similar but more destructive times of this happening with the evo. It would corrupt the card and I lost everything on it. What I ended up doing was put a piece of paper the size of the card on top of the card. This was to make the battery hold down the card more firmly. I suspected the crappy mechanism htc used on both phones is at fault. The card would wiggle around when it was seated in the slot and the lock bar down. I don't know if this is the case again with the shift but I did it again with this card. Hopefully that does the trick. I would hate to take the phone back.
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This is the second time and a different card that this has happened with me. I've tried ruu and that doesn't help. I thought maybe there was a file on it that the phone didn't like so I backed up the card and let the phone format it. Problem went away for awhile. I got a faster card and now its doing it again. I had a similar but more destructive times of this happening with the evo. It would corrupt the card and I lost everything on it. What I ended up doing was put a piece of paper the size of the card on top of the card. This was to make the battery hold down the card more firmly. I suspected the crappy mechanism htc used on both phones is at fault. The card would wiggle around when it was seated in the slot and the lock bar down. I don't know if this is the case again with the shift but I did it again with this card. Hopefully that does the trick. I would hate to take the phone back.
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no problems here (yet), but I hope this doesn't happen.
This has happened to me on all my android phones. My hero, optimus s, epic and now the shift. Usually just messing with it will fix the issue no problem. Pull the card reboot etc. Worse come to worse back your card up and reformat. That fixed it for me before.
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This has happened to me on all my android phones. My hero, optimus s, epic and now the shift. Usually just messing with it will fix the issue no problem. Pull the card reboot etc. Worse come to worse back your card up and reformat. That fixed it for me before.
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Have any theories on why this happens?
I haven't had this problem but my Moment would occasionally tell me the SD card was damaged when I knew it wasn't. Figured out that just plugging it into the PC and having Windows scan the drive for errors would fix the problem. Maybe it might work for this too...?
I'm guessing that the SD card doesn't sit in the card slot and recessed area very well. Sometimes, over time, the card might be jostled by handling of the phone like if it gets bumped. The contacts lose a solid connection with the other half of the contacts inside the phone and an error happens. In some cases with some phones, I speculate when a card shift happens during a write cycle to it, the file allocation table doesn't get updated correctly, thus temporarily corrupting the card. Seems as if a format fixes it sometimes. That's my guess. When I put a piece of thick paper, less than a millimeter in thickness, on top of the card, and the paper is the same shape of the card, and the weight of the battery on it helps keep the card from having the tendency to move around in the card socket. The errors don't seem to happen again for me.
Why does this crap happen to me? The spring loaded card sockets on phones, I've never had this problem. They seem to hold the card in place very well. It's probably a cost issue because a plastic bar to hold the card down is cheaper than the metal spring loaded locking card mechanism.
It happened again. It seemed to happen when I tried to open a file. It seems like it only happened when I messed with the file. I deleted it and so far so good. It seems weird that a file would make the card go into read only mode.
I had it happen once. It was when I was disconnecting from the computer.
I always eject from computer, then select charge only before disconnecting. I read that on an EVO forum
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I managed to have this happen on my Hero with an 8GB class 2 card. I returned it and upgraded to a class 6. Also I made sure to always properly eject the USB in Windows after that. Not a problem since. Knock on wood.
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it happened rarely on my Moment but not on the Evo Shift . usually a reboot cleared this problem for my phone
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I haven't had this problem but my Moment would occasionally tell me the SD card was damaged when I knew it wasn't. Figured out that just plugging it into the PC and having Windows scan the drive for errors would fix the problem. Maybe it might work for this too...?
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Yup, this works great
It's happened to me before, but on my Hero. Haven't had it happen on my Evo Shift yet.
Only thing that's happened is one time I had my phone set as a disk drive when connected to my PC. A friend of mine called me and it couldn't read the ringtone from the SD card, and I got an error regarding DRM not being installed. Once I disconnected the phone from the PC, everything worked just fine.