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Rikard Skogberg says:
September 24, 2010 at 3:03 pm
Branimir,
1.will 2.2 ever come to x10?
- like I’ve said earlier: not ruled in nor out at this point, i.e. it might but I can’t promise, sorry.
2.multitouch?
- no such plans commited.
3.flash?
- no such plans commited.
4.16 m colors?
- no such plans commited.
5.camera flash?
- doesn’t seem included in this coming update as far as I can see but I have forwarded feedback on that earlier – will look into it!
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2010/09/23/update-on-updates/comment-page-19/#comment-64035
Regarding 16 mil. colours:
Why doesn’t X10 have 16 mil. colours with 2.1? Performance problems? Hardware again?
RS says: Sorry but I don’t know the reason at this time. I guess it could be hardware dependant or due to priorities in resources for development. I’ll see if I can find out.
Thanks for the post. It's a bunch of non-answers really but atleast I don't have to browse through the Sony Ericsson blogs to find them.
When they do have a plan - we see delays ... When they do not have plans I suppose it is a clear "no".
So for sure no 16 mil colours and no flash. For multitouch it was clear earlier.
ddewbofh said:
Thanks for the post. It's a bunch of non-answers really but atleast I don't have to browse through the Sony Ericsson blogs to find them.
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Just go through the comments in the blog...............Rikard was patient enough to answer many questions.....
Thanks for the post OP
would be great if you would update the first post to include what ever he says
Much appreciated
In all honesty, all those answers are like the answers we get from politicians. In other words, they are not answers at all, they are simply evasions.
Update on arabic support from Rikard
I asked him about Arabic support in the coming update, His answer was, i quote,
"I don’t know. I’ve checked my sample here and it doesn’t seem to include Arabic letters at least. But perhaps there could be language additions in the second update, I will try to look into it!"
I have also contacted SE Middle East on their facebook page, they answered that the support for Arabic will be added in November(on old update schedule, i guess). So that may not happens(if it ever happens) until early 2011.
Perhaps we could revive this thread? It would really help a lot of people if you post what Rikard says over here - note, no discussion, just what he posted. Then we don't need to wade through all the 500 comments cursing SE and the spam comments etc
I don't see any helpful answer.
pngface said:
Perhaps we could revive this thread? It would really help a lot of people if you post what Rikard says over here - note, no discussion, just what he posted. Then we don't need to wade through all the 500 comments cursing SE and the spam comments etc
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+1. Keep posting and keep this thread towards the front.
ATM, I feel I'm missing two things only... (anything over these would be a bonus)
1. Camera Flash.
2. In-call-volume.
If SE can do something about this, would be really great.
pretty much sounds like they have 3 devs to make all the new roms lol
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pretty much sounds like they have 3 devs to make all the new roms lol
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LOL, we never know, that might actually be true
And The SE keeps ignoring its customers .......... How will they remain in the market like this if they keep doing **** like they r doing with x10 owners
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And The SE keeps ignoring its customers .......... How will they remain in the market like this if they keep doing **** like they r doing with x10 owners
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Let's not turn this into another bashing and whining thread about SE. If people understood the facts versus jumping on the misinformation bandwagon they might actually enjoy the X10 experience.
Guys.. only what Rikard says in this thread... please no discussion
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Guys.. only what Rikard says in this thread... please no discussion
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Lol. Yes, since that is working out so well. So far there isn't one post about what Rikard says since September.
That's coz Rikard isn't saying anything. I guess he won't say much about the x10 now that the new phones will be announced next week
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That's coz Rikard isn't saying anything. I guess he won't say much about the x10 now that the new phones will be announced next week
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He has since September. He's not going to post it here for us too.
Here's an interesting one... what do we think about this logic?
Q: Why do you lock the boot loader of your devices? Isn’t Android supposed to be open source?
A: Yes, Android is an open source platform. Anyone can download it, modify it to their liking and install it on hardware they have designed. A mobile device is much more than the operating system. In our phones there are functionality that have to be secure such as SIM-lock and DRM. We currently don’t have a solution in place to secure that while opening the bootloader and therefore it would break legal agreements with many of our partners if we do.”
Look at this great support I got. Copy and pastied responses several times. Apparently we all should call the galaxy hot line or something.
info: Please wait for a Samsung Agent to respond.
info: You are now chatting with 'Elena'
Elena: Hi, thank you for contacting Samsung Technical Support. How may I help you today?
Customer: My family bought three fascinates in anticipating the ultimate android operating system called Froyo 2.2. When will I get this update? Will I get it this year at least or do I have to wait another year?
Elena: I understand that you want upgrade the device from Android 2.1 to 2.2 . Am I correct ?
Customer: Yes that is what I mean.
Elena: Unfortunately there is no update available at this time for your phone model, nor is there an estimated date of one being released. We are unable to speculate when/if a software revision might be available due to the fact that this might lead to inaccurate information and confusion.
Elena: Should this become available, it will be posted on our website in the Samsung Download Center.
Elena: Samsung is working on these and we will release the software soon.
Customer: Thats not even you typing, you copied and pasted that, I saw that exact response on forums.
Customer: I regret buying 3 of these phones.
Elena: I can understand your situation and how frustrated you are at this moment.
Customer: I will never buy another samsung product again.
Elena: I would have surely helped , if I had any other information regarding them.
Elena: As this is a basic level support we have limited access to our database. I have provided all the information that are available in my database.
Customer: You do have more information, you are with holding it from me.
Customer: Then let me talk to someone higher up please.
Elena: However, I suggest you please contact our Samsung Customer Support Team. You can reach our Galaxy handset support team at : 1-877-392-4252,Mon-Fri: 7 AM - 9 PM (CST), Sat: 9 AM - 6 PM (CST). They will be glad to help you with this.
Customer: Honestly, it 2011, Froyo was released last year and you can't even give me an eta on when I will get 2.2/2.3, thats disgraceful.
Customer: Please if I can talk to your manager that would be great.
Elena: I apologize, if I had the information available with me I would have surely provided you in this chat session.
Customer: Then may I please talk with your manager.
Elena: Tha manager is only available in Phone support only.
Elena: Yes, please contact our Samsung Customer Support Team they will transfer the call to the Manager.
Customer: Do you have the information as to why I DON'T have 2.2?
Elena: I apologize, we don't have that information available in my database.
Customer: I highly doubt that, I know how customer service works. You can make the call for me and find out the information I need, please do so.
Elena: I am really sorry, if I had the access to do that i will definitely arrange a call for you in this regar.
Elena: regard*
Elena: I don't mean to rush you, but I haven't had a response from you. Are we connected?
Customer: Do you have the information as to why the Galaxy S has 2.2 in the UK and other countries but the phones based off of it don't?
Customer: Such as the epic, captivate, vibrant, and of course the fascinate?
Elena: No, I don't have that information available, that is the reason I asked you please contact our next level support so that they will be glad to help you with this.
Customer: Fine
Elena: Is there anything else that I can assist you with?
Elena: It was a pleasure assisting you. Thank you for contacting Samsung Technical Support. If you have a minute, please click on the blue “X close” button to receive a transcript of your chat and fill out a brief survey to help us serve you better. Have a wonderful day!
Customer: Yes
info: Chat session has been terminated by the Samsung Agent.
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To top it off, she HUNG UP ON ME. I was about to ask if an update would coem to fix gps. Oh well switching to HTC next time.
I must say, it sounds like you were harrassing the rep.
A Guy my brother works with was just complaining about his Droid X due to the 2.2 release he received two weeks ago. I understand why the devs want the release but for the rest of us, patience will serve us best.
There is a GPS fix on the forum. Do some searching and enjoy the fruit of our developers' labors.
tonu42 said:
Look at this great support I got. Copy and pastied responses several times. Apparently we all should call the galaxy hot line or something.
To top it off, she HUNG UP ON ME. I was about to ask if an update would coem to fix gps. Oh well switching to HTC next time.
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Dude, you are a freakin ignorant dumbass. The only people that have info on the ETA of the 2.2/2.3 update are the Samsung developers and Verizon rom builders, not customer support. Please do yourself a favor and shutup or work a customer facing job to realise how it is to be not in the loop.
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Dont worry ...Good news The iphone is headed to Verizon to save us all from the ugly robot they call Android.
Sherwood1 said:
Dont worry ...Good news The iphone is headed to Verizon to save us all from the ugly robot they call Android.
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I really hope you're joking, but judging by the rest of your posts, I'm sure you aren't. In the admittedly short time I've had playing with iPhones, I can honestly say that they're absurdly overhyped. They really don't do anything better than any other phone on the market. Plus, Apple is content with repackaging the same thing(more or less) time after time with relatively minor tweaks and adjustments to keep their consumer base hooked. The iPhone isn't going to save anybody from anything, because by the time it actually comes around to Verizon, there be even more advanced phones on VZW(dual core, 4g, 2.3, etc). The iPhone will just seem antiquated by comparison(to the ones that actually give a damn about phone hardware/software) and that's an honest fact, not me being biased or a fanboy. This is just my 2 cents, it's kind of ridiculous for you to come and post that in an Android phone section of the forum. On topic, I have to agree with bwheelies. Working in an area where I have to deal with irate customers daily really gives me another perspective on things like this. It's really difficult to answer questions people have when the info hasn't trickled down to me and they continually press the issue and get pissed about it.
I'm really starting to think that a moderator on here should create a general rants and raves section like Craigslist, that way if we want a good laugh or to read something completely rediculous, we could go there instead of it flooding the important forums. People like you should be banned from here. Do us all a favor and search next time, you will see that there are at least 3 other posts almost identical to yours that you could've given your 2 cents two.
so fresh and so superclean.
Honestly I would hang up on you too. Why is it that people are so rude to customer service reps? Just imagine if you had to deal with people that are rude while you're doing everything you're allowed to, to try helping them. She's not the company, she had nothing to do with the software or hardware or the timeliness providers divulge.
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I'm really starting to think that a moderator on here should create a general rants and raves section like Craigslist, that way if we want a good laugh or to read something completely rediculous, we could go there instead of it flooding the important forums. People like you should be banned from here. Do us all a favor and search next time, you will see that there are at least 3 other posts almost identical to yours that you could've given your 2 cents two.
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I'm pretty sure you're directing that at me, so I'm going to reply accordingly. The only thing I did was reply to a troll being a troll. Wasn't really trying to rant, it just came out as that. I don't flood the forums with anything, generally my posts are on topic and direct. In fact, this is the first time I've ever ranted about anything. What exactly should I be searching for? Sherwood trolling more threads so I can just follow him around and comment? That's the definition of trolling. I've derailed this topic enough, and I sincerely apologize to the OP.
The best thing about the iphone possibly coming to vzw, is that it will rid us of the likes of sherwood1.
adrynalyne said:
The best thing about the iphone possibly coming to vzw, is that it will rid us of the likes of sherwood1.
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agreed.....
Mean Bro Greene said:
I'm pretty sure you're directing that at me, so I'm going to reply accordingly. The only thing I did was reply to a troll being a troll. Wasn't really trying to rant, it just came out as that. I don't flood the forums with anything, generally my posts are on topic and direct. In fact, this is the first time I've ever ranted about anything. What exactly should I be searching for? Sherwood trolling more threads so I can just follow him around and comment? That's the definition of trolling. I've derailed this topic enough, and I sincerely apologize to the OP.
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Definitely was not directed at you, more towards the OP.
so fresh and so superclean.
If I had been the rep, I would have done more then hang up. Why harrass them over something they have no control over?
adrynalyne said:
The best thing about the iphone possibly coming to vzw, is that it will rid us of the likes of sherwood1.
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Yes, the little kiddies need the iLemming.
Guys The iphone will always lack in hardware sooner or later to Android.... a new android phone gets announced every day. But since the iphone was released no new phone has beat it in total hardware performance. And as far as doing anything better than android.....well it just offers more. what good is a OS when there are no applications on it.
Iphone wins in that area.
PS i was the guy that got banned for a few weeks cause i was handing out the Verizon leaked update to everyone...while mods were keeping it to themselves!! I didnt get it from them but they tend to keep things for themselves.
So your welcome, those who talk crap bout me, please show me one thing you offered....
BTW VOODOO the biggest joke in history and people still falling for it.
There was no reason for you to be such a douche. I work in customer service and we can't stand people like you. You think we know everything and that we just like to keep information from you to piss you off. We tell you what we know, and we often don't know much since we're JUST customer service reps. We're not the software developers, we're not corporate, and we often learn about things just before you do as the consumer.
You're not even being a **** head to the right person. You should find the contact information for Samsung Corporate and get a hold of them somehow. They're the decision makers and they're the people who decide when **** comes out, not customer service. I can speak from experience, if you're professional and conduct yourself in a polite manner you'll get results. Once you start being a complete ignorant asshole, we do the bare minimum for you.
I hope you're happy that you made an innocent person's day more difficult because you wanted your stupid software update.
So your welcome, those who talk crap bout me, please show me one thing you offered....
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I can show you several things. You can't show one. Yet you are repeatedly banned.
Sherwood1 said:
Guys The iphone will always lack in hardware sooner or later to Android.... a new android phone gets announced every day. But since the iphone was released no new phone has beat it in total hardware performance. And as far as doing anything better than android.....well it just offers more. what good is a OS when there are no applications on it.
Iphone wins in that area.
PS i was the guy that got banned for a few weeks cause i was handing out the Verizon leaked update to everyone...while mods were keeping it to themselves!! I didnt get it from them but they tend to keep things for themselves.
So your welcome, those who talk crap bout me, please show me one thing you offered....
BTW VOODOO the biggest joke in history and people still falling for it.
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yag spelled backwords. Please get an iPhone asap. You have caused nothing but problems in these forums.
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Sherwood1 said:
Guys The iphone will always lack in hardware sooner or later to Android.... a new android phone gets announced every day. But since the iphone was released no new phone has beat it in total hardware performance. And as far as doing anything better than android.....well it just offers more. what good is a OS when there are no applications on it.
Iphone wins in that area.
PS i was the guy that got banned for a few weeks cause i was handing out the Verizon leaked update to everyone...while mods were keeping it to themselves!! I didnt get it from them but they tend to keep things for themselves.
So your welcome, those who talk crap bout me, please show me one thing you offered....
BTW VOODOO the biggest joke in history and people still falling for it.
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trollin' hard eh
tonu42 said:
Look at this great support I got. Copy and pastied responses several times. Apparently we all should call the galaxy hot line or something.
To top it off, she HUNG UP ON ME. I was about to ask if an update would coem to fix gps. Oh well switching to HTC next time.
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I'm embarrassed for you. I hope you know this doesn't help.
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Actually adrynalyne i just did!!! I gave out the Verizon Update no questions asked. You and others refused!!!!!!
I got banned because you think i need your permission to give something out!!!! I did people a favor and you held back!!!!
You offer VOODOO...garbage code!! Bricked more phones than god knows what!
Voodoo hahaha worthless and you know it!!
If you read the announcement like you were supposed to, you would have learned that you were not to release anything. But what do you read?
This hole controversy over the past few days over P3droids post
http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/...rooting-manufacturers-carriers.html#post65013
When i first read this i was stunned, i unloaded a lot of frustration out in another thread but that didn't do anything other than make me feel better, temporarily. I have another year with the Droid X and don't want to just put up with it until i can upgrade. I've enjoyed my Droid X very much and would like it to continue that way but the development on it seems to be dieing. I still see there being much more to do to the device, considering Gingerbread leak was just released and rooted. I don't know how many people flashed the leak but i have... and it makes a huge difference in performance. I am no dev or anything, the most knowledge i have on this concept is rooting, flashing roms, and sbf'ing when something goes wrong. So i just want an idea of what everyone else is doing now that P3droid has said what he had to say. Do you believe it?
This is my question ...why would someone who had this info release a "leak" of the rom they can track down? And still have links up for d/l?
If that was me id advice people not to upgrade to GB and wait for an official release then figure out how to root it... just how they figured out how to root the nexus s g2 mt4g atrix thunderbolt ...its possible ..
Now this is all a "he said she said"thing case ... no evidence no links no emails from Verizon or Motorola ...I understand the tethering and data thing but the root is garbage in my opinion ...it clearly voids warranty so you really think Motorola would be upset if you voided your warranty and have to buy a new phone? Less likely ...just my two cents
And just read where its posted in..
"News and Rumors" .....
That's all I gotta say
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I agree with 100% jeezy. I understand why Verizon would be upset about the tethering, but we all do pay for UNLIMITED data. Verizon is just upset that we found a loophole instead of paying for their wireless tethering. And it is a little fishy that P3droid will be the one person to give us a leak and then immdiately tell us this information. I did take a peak at his twitter the night that he posted that information and aparently he was drunk...hmm.... No disrepect to P3Droid, he may be telling the truth about all of this but we can't tust anyone anymore, especially after the recent rumor that someone cracked the bootloader.
And there is 70 views on this thread already and only 2 votes. Please people, we want everyones input on this topic. Obviously other people are curious too if there are already 70 views lol. If you want to comment and give your opinion, thats great too, but all i ask is if you make those 2 clicks to vote.
The final decision is to stop spamming and trolling about that topic. There is no solid evidence, links, Official ANYTHING for that matter and quite frankly, and I speak for a lot of senior members and those with common sense, I think we all want to stop hearing about it.
There are four posts in this thread, three of them are yours (OP). No one is posting because this is old and dead news on XDA. I doubt this thread will even get to a page two.
Well now someone has their panties in a bunch. The idea for this thread was the poll. Your exactly right in that there is no solid evidence on the topic... Which is the point of the poll. If there were solid evidence, then the topic would be dead. So instead of trashing a thread with your useless information, go make another thread on switching the 3g icon to 4g. Talk about pointless Ben
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Well now someone has their panties in a bunch. The idea for this thread was the poll. Your exactly right in that there is no solid evidence on the topic... Which is the point of the poll. If there were solid evidence, then the topic would be dead. So instead of trashing a thread with your useless information, go make another thread on switching the 3g icon to 4g. Talk about pointless Ben
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Lol!!!
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This hole controversy over the past few days over P3droids post
http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/...rooting-manufacturers-carriers.html#post65013
When i first read this i was stunned, i unloaded a lot of frustration out in another thread but that didn't do anything other than make me feel better, temporarily. I have another year with the Droid X and don't want to just put up with it until i can upgrade. I've enjoyed my Droid X very much and would like it to continue that way but the development on it seems to be dieing. I still see there being much more to do to the device, considering Gingerbread leak was just released and rooted. I don't know how many people flashed the leak but i have... and it makes a huge difference in performance. I am no dev or anything, the most knowledge i have on this concept is rooting, flashing roms, and sbf'ing when something goes wrong. So i just want an idea of what everyone else is doing now that P3droid has said what he had to say. Do you believe it?
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Umm.. Does anyone with a real brain cell believe it? Seriously stop spamming with this useless garbage. This isn't true. Not one shred of any evidence, stop spamming.
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Well now someone has their panties in a bunch. The idea for this thread was the poll. Your exactly right in that there is no solid evidence on the topic... Which is the point of the poll. If there were solid evidence, then the topic would be dead. So instead of trashing a thread with your useless information, go make another thread on switching the 3g icon to 4g. Talk about pointless Ben
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No this is a waste of space. The poll is meaningless as it is not true. Seriously how in the world can you believe this? If someone honestly truely believes this and not just from a fear campaign I pity them. Verizon and Motorola are coming off saying they don't care if your Zoom is rooted they will upgrade it anyways. Also every Verizon rep I have talked to have no clue what I was talking about and the most recent one went a step farther and claimed it would probably have been a breach of contract on their end.
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And there is 70 views on this thread already and only 2 votes. Please people, we want everyones input on this topic. Obviously other people are curious too if there are already 70 views lol. If you want to comment and give your opinion, thats great too, but all i ask is if you make those 2 clicks to vote.
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Then give an option to say this is bull**** I bet that hit counter will light up like christmas lol...
Bring it on Big Red. Ill have the legal team from Cydia make you their B%$# just like Apple
If it is true it's bullsh#t. If it's a rumor, that's sh#tty too. I hope it's not real, or at least something that never actually happens to us. I don't like the idea of being forced to go back to stock. And why? What was the main reason I got out of all the reading I did? Wireless tether. I don't even use it.
I own my hardware not Verizon.
I haven't changed the code for the baseband which is what interacts with their system.
My user experience is just that, mine.
Isn't a forum an open place for discussion? If you're not interested in the discussion why even read the thread or waste your time commenting on it?
Whatever, regardless if the rumor is true or not I for one am not changing my ways. I will do whatever I want with my phone until Verizon gives me the boot, at which time I will just flash to cricket and enjoy the reduction in my bill.
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Sorry for the wall of text. I started typing and next thing I knew I wrote a novel.
Honestly, until I see some news on it, it's just a rumor. I did not upgrade to GB because I would rather wait for some development, but the bottom line is that this is just a rumor.
People have beat the whys, ifs, and hows into the ground so there is no reason for me to talk about them.
If you're so concerned that you have to make multiple threads, polls, and cry to your mother, SBF back to stock and enjoy your stock ROM as best you can. If you were on GB and this is true, VZW already has your MEID so you're ****ed one way or the other. So the only thing I can say is just chill out, crack open a beer, go to work, watch some baseball, jerk off... whatever you do in your spare time that relaxes you. If this whole thing is going to happen it's going to happen and worrying about it won't solve anything. You're already screwed on your current phone if everything P3 said goes down.
Most people here know there are certain risks involved when they mod there phones so if this all goes down, I'll just buy a new one and deal with the wenching from my wife. **** happens; deal with it.
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Finally, just some food for thought:
I've been using custom ROMs since the days of WinMo 6.5. Unfortunately, my first phone was not hacked due to lack of interest. I think it was the Samsung SCH-i760. While it was not hacked, people were sending this $600 phone bricked under a warranty replacement. I'm sure not as many as the Droid X's being sent back from complete noobies coming here and bricking their phones, but I digress.
Warranty replacements due to tampering are nothing new; it's been going on for YEARS, even prior to Smart Phones. In fact, I remember people warranty replacing their RAZRs trying to get rid of the Verizon UI.
Whatever happens, happens. Just go with it.
Honestly if everything is true and we will be no longer be able to make our droid Phones OUR droid phones I'm just going to get a plan with a cheap carrier and use this as a multimedia device and leo it mine.
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I own my hardware not Verizon.
I haven't changed the code for the baseband which is what interacts with their system.
My user experience is just that, mine.
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You are very correct. You can do whatever you want with your device and Verizon cannot do anything to your device about it. HOWEVER, they can do whatever they want with THEIR service. As stated in the terms of service that EVERYONE here agreed to, in section 2 part d of reasons they can terminate or suspend your service, if you " modify your device from its manufacturer's specifications" they have the right to stop providing you service.
So yes you can modify your device to hell and back but they DO NOT have to give you service for it. So all of you can stop saying Verizon had to tell you something or can't do this. THEY ALREADY TOLD US.
Message from kennethpenn regarding the issue at hand. Please read.
Ok I watched the following go down last night; Epinter edited his ICS rom leak posting from full of info and a download link, to " .. " and only that at 5:22 PM PST. This was followed by a few people commenting at the end of the thread "what happened/where are you?" to which Epinter replied (thumps up) "still here". That was about 8pm PST, and as of right now 6 am PST the following day, all of Epinters posts from the past 4 days have been deleted until the 7th.
Was Motorola employee information leaked in the leak we've been using?
Lets discuss, because now the record is gone. At the end of the thread 6 hours ago someone mentioned that a sanitized version will be coming, but I couldn't verify if that was either true, or even the problem to begin with.
Is Epinter in trouble with the notoriously stupid and arrogant Motorola?
If there was ever a company to forgot the rule of the internet, that once it's on the internet it's out there forever, it would be Motorola. I can verify for a FACT that Motorola watches this forum. I have spoken to nvidia executives, when they were toting development atrixes in summer of 2011, they WATCH xda, and occasionally use it; I have in the flesh verified this, they aren't morons and they know their resources. I think we might have stepped on some toes here, because Motorola is wickedly insecure about their IP, look at their recent lawsuits and blatent tech-grab acquisition by Google. They want us to buy their damn Razr M on Verizon, and not the continued usage of our phones, just look at the locking down of bootloaders, followed by waving $100 Verizon vouchers followed by killing ICS. It's like their not just giving us the middle finger, their trying to pry into our wallet, because we (everyone here at XDA) all need smartphones, why does Motorola have to make this such a painful experience...
Figured something like this would happen. Not a Dev so I kept out of the discussion but it seems that some entity with some parts in the file objected to its presence on XDA and it had to be taken down. I hope this doesn't mean the end to dev on this as I would love to have my atrix back.
Hopefully it will surface in the underground and be available to underground atrix network.
their trying to pry into our wallet
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who do they think they are? the Gov't?
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Ok I watched the following go down last night; Epinter edited his ICS rom leak posting from full of info and a download link, to " .. " and only that at 5:22 PM PST. This was followed by a few people commenting at the end of the thread "what happened/where are you?" to which Epinter replied (thumps up) "still here". That was about 8pm PST, and as of right now 6 am PST the following day, all of Epinters posts from the past 4 days have been deleted until the 7th.
Was Motorola employee information leaked in the leak we've been using?
Lets discuss, because now the record is gone. At the end of the thread 6 hours ago someone mentioned that a sanitized version will be coming, but I couldn't verify if that was either true, or even the problem to begin with.
Is Epinter in trouble with the notoriously stupid and arrogant Motorola?
If there was ever a company to forgot the rule of the internet, that once it's on the internet it's out there forever, it would be Motorola. I can verify for a FACT that Motorola watches this forum. I have spoken to nvidia executives, when they were toting development atrixes in summer of 2011, they WATCH xda, and occasionally use it; I have in the flesh verified this, they aren't morons and they know their resources. I think we might have stepped on some toes here, because Motorola is wickedly insecure about their IP, look at their recent lawsuits and blatent tech-grab acquisition by Google. They want us to buy their damn Razr M on Verizon, and not the continued usage of our phones, just look at the locking down of bootloaders, followed by waving $100 Verizon vouchers followed by killing ICS. It's like their not just giving us the middle finger, their trying to pry into our wallet, because we (everyone here at XDA) all need smartphones, why does Motorola have to make this such a painful experience...
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I think the question is more "why are the Motorola managers [excluding Googlers] so hell-bent on not thinking with their heads".
rthomas10 said:
Figured something like this would happen. Not a Dev so I kept out of the discussion but it seems that some entity with some parts in the file objected to its presence on XDA and it had to be taken down. I hope this doesn't mean the end to dev on this as I would love to have my atrix back.
Hopefully it will surface in the underground and be available to underground atrix network.
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But if you look at other Motorola Sections on XDA, non of them had their ICS leaks thread deleted. This smells fishy.
Sent from that Atrix.
Morons! They think we are stupid and live inside a bubble.
Maybe Nvidia is hell bent agenst leeks, that would explain why there wernt any leeks for the other tega 2 phones.
IM_back! said:
Maybe Nvidia is hell bent agenst leeks, that would explain why there wernt any leeks for the other tega 2 phones.
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There were. For both the LG Optimus 2X and the Galaxy R.
Sent from that Atrix.
Veyr strange.
Anyone has a mirror to the leak before it gets deleted ? Thanks !
I think we are not going to win this war. I'm interested in the lg nexus. Looks promising.
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tatperson said:
There were. For both the LG Optimus 2X and the Galaxy R.
Sent from that Atrix.
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Ok I missed that, maybe its the coumpany that made the fp reader, or any other component, i doubt that its moto since they usaly dont go this beserk over a leek.
So the plot thickens!
Anyone has a mirror to the leak before it gets deleted ? Thanks !
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It's the internet. By now there are hundreds of copies of that leak floating around. I wouldn't be surprised to find it on torrent.
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Ok I missed that, maybe its the coumpany that made the fp reader, or any other component, i doubt that its moto since they usaly dont go this beserk over a leek.
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Usually a leak happens of an unofficial build that is going to be released officially at some point. This leak made moto look particularly bad because it was a partially finished update that they canned, most likely to get people to upgrade their phones. I find it hard to believe that moto didn't have EVERYTHING to do with the thread being deleted. We need to hope that our xda devs aren't in any real (aka legal) trouble over this.
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I can verify for a FACT that Motorola watches this forum. I have spoken to nvidia executives, when they were toting development atrixes in summer of 2011, they WATCH xda, and occasionally use it;
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If you want me I can find you many posts on XDA threads submitted by very active members with very high number of 'Thanks' that were adamant Motorola didn't read comments on XDA, as if it was a degrading act. I have always suspected these members actually work in the benefit of companies, yes these people can represent multiple companies at same time because these people are actually employed by companies you and I never heard about before. Similar companies have previously been exposed after tweet followers scandal.
Let me summarise Motorola in a short sentence or two. Mexican Drug Cartels conduct business with their customers more professionally than Motorola ever did. Mexican Drug Cartels are brutal to disloyalty whereas Motorola's core business is based on disloyalty.
when in doubt, torrent. go look for it people. it's never gonna go away, since it has already been outed.
That Motorola...
CSharpHeaven said:
Let me summarise Motorola in a short sentence or two. Mexican Drug Cartels conduct business with their customers more professionally than Motorola ever did. Mexican Drug Cartels are brutal to disloyalty whereas Motorola's core business is based on disloyalty.
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Reckon that!!
Guys : if for any reason, the development for that rom is banned from xda (which I doubt...you know, democratic freedom), I will be coming up with a forum to host the devs work and discussion right away, if needed.
It would be nice to know what's going on so nobody else gets in trouble. Hiding what is going on, removing threads and deleting leaked ROMs is not the way of XDA.
DannyBiker said:
Guys : if for any reason, the development for that rom is banned from xda (which I doubt...you know, democratic freedom), I will be coming up with a forum to host the devs work and discussion right away, if needed.
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I really hope we don't have to go that far. but thanks for your offer!
Sir_Brizz said:
It would be nice to know what's going on so nobody else gets in trouble. Hiding what is going on, removing threads and deleting leaked ROMs is not the way of XDA.
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Don't blame xda here. Judging by how abrupt and quick this was, I don't think they were asked politely. I'm betting the involved parties got a C&D from motorola. That's why you're not seeing anyone involved in this posting more details.
I opened same toppic in S3 & S2 General Forum also in here make support.
Hi there friends. I have n7000 Galaxy Note like everyone in that forum. Last year i bought that phablet that were flagship device they gived updates but now?
Maybe Galaxy s3 & N7100 Note 2 phone owners are happy for their updated phones. But next year things will be different many people gived too much money for their phones like us but next year same problem they will say in here. Thats also for you also for us.
Push samsung spam their pages.
They are not giving answers Huawei giving more support more answers than samsung for their past devices.
Lets be together
So your message is: spam Samsung pages?
Interesting concept...
So... Huawei are good at giving updates huh?, hmmm.. Actualy i was eyeing on ascend mate.
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I think we have nothing to loose.
yes we have nothing to loose if 1000 person send message samsung and about updates we can change something. tryyunus istanbuldan sevgilerle
and also for huawei i bought ideos x5 aka u8800 we spammed their pages and then we taked updates maybe not too good update but we arciheved some way.
Oh, please stop it. XDA ist not the place to call for a spam war.
There are much more useful things you could do for the Note community here.
thaidai my friend here is community i know that. If we wont make that type of conversation what open source mean xda? We saw good potencial @ i9000 and HTC HD2. We have good developers owned Galaxy Phones. But Sammy is not relasing source code and proper documentation for our phones and phablets. And many users not making anything i mean that my friend we are community for make more usefull our devices. We must be together i m saying about to be together you are saying stop that **** maybe i said spam but i mean sending emails, sending tweets or whatever. No one will lose anything for sending one email or tweeting thats only making difference and waking up manufactures in their sleep
maybe you know about that but look : http://www.xda-developers.com/android/broadcom-releases-egl-drivers-for-samsung-galaxy-y/
Everybody wants more support for their devices isnt it?
Peace
ThaiDai said:
Oh, please stop it. XDA ist not the place to call for a spam war.
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+1
they want to do business, so they will bring.
We alreadyvwill be enjoying 3 major releases on our note what else do you want from samsung???
GB>ICS>JB>>>near future the custom KLP...
Android phones are only supported with the updates till 18 months. Then no more updates. I hope in the past, in nokia times people didnt get any updates... the phone only has what it had when it comes out of the box.
We should be thanking both samsung for futuristic hardware and google for the polished updates.
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ThaiDai said:
Oh, please stop it. XDA ist not the place to call for a spam war.
There are much more useful things you could do for the Note community here.
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This.
Read this post --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36080843&postcount=2210
Then grow up. Spamming Samsung will do nothing but get you ignored.
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