OK I see that some of you already got the device. My wife wants to replace her Nokia N80 for the white version. Now I previously had an Orange SPV M3100 (HTC Hermes) & had no end of problems with that sold it & now happily using an Asus P525. So how about the the Trinity.
-Is it stable?
-Does A2DP & AVCRP work properly as in having proper stereo output?
-Does the A2DP reconnect automatically to WMP after receiving a call (the -Hermes never did, had to restart everything).
-How's wifi reception (the Hermes was crap). She uses wifi a lot as we have 250mins free BTOpenzone minutes a month.
-I looked at the HTC website but it seems they do not supply firmware upgrade support for their devices. So where can you get them officially?
Fill me in guys. Thanks
Is it stable?
I don't feel it's very stable when coming to the phone part. If I've used the device for a while, I often have to hard-reboot it for the phone part to work again(it just stands "calling", and nothing happends)
-How's wifi reception (the Hermes was crap). She uses wifi a lot as we have 250mins free BTOpenzone minutes a month.
The WiFI reception on my phone is very good. I've actually managed to connect to hot-spots which my laptop didn't manage to connect... *me like*
-I looked at the HTC website but it seems they do not supply firmware upgrade support for their devices. So where can you get them officially?
In Norway you get the official firmware updates/rom from the local distributor.(Dangaard and Brightpoint)
What about other features, like those related to the cameras?
How is visiophony with the front camera?
How is the picture quality of the back camera? Most of the reviews are made with good light conditions. What about the pictures in low light condition?
Movies? Are they correct?
Battery life with that 400 MHz processor compared to Prophet?
Could anyone post pictures/movies made with Trinity?
The wifes P3600 arrived this morning. Been playing with it all for a while & here's my 1st impressions.
Good
Looks nice & shiny
Small size
Excellent loud clear external speaker
Nice & responsive
Phone reception & general operation is fine
3G works well
Bad
Shiny surface = fingerprint magnet
MS bluetooth stack, better than before but still lacking
A2DP implementation. Not real stereo, only mono out from each channel
Also when disconnectd from WMP it doesn't auto reconnect.
In summary if you used previous HTC devices before then you'll be familiar with this one. When used as a pda & phone it does most things as expected, the menus & general operation are same as before.
But its going back, one of the main reasons being the crap A2DP. Wifey uses music player a lot on her 1 hour daily commute & the fact that sound quality is rubbish (low volume & no stereo) & no option to connect a wired headphones as theres no headphone jack. The same problem as the Hermes in that once disconnected from WMP it doesn't auto reconnect. Have to go into Bluetooth manger to re establish the connection.
Also comparing it to my Asus P525 other than the smaller size, 3G, louder external speaker & looks a bit nicer, in all other depts the Asus is as good & some areas much much better.
Well, my opinion is that the camera sucks... Was on a party this weekend _with_ good lighting, all the picutures came out blurry *argh* (could be it was too much light tough?...)
The videotelephony-part on the other hands is quite good(for videotelephone, NOT for taking still-pictures).
And I also don't like the 2-7 sec. delay when you try to call someone... *argh*
neofix said:
Well, my opinion is that the camera sucks... Was on a party this weekend _with_ good lighting, all the picutures came out blurry *argh* (could be it was too much light tough?...)
The videotelephony-part on the other hands is quite good(for videotelephone, NOT for taking still-pictures).
And I also don't like the 2-7 sec. delay when you try to call someone... *argh*
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2 to 7 second delay? It sounds like a ROM upgrade will probably be coming to fix these issues...same story different cover.
zen123 said:
A2DP implementation. Not real stereo, only mono out from each channel
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This sounds new to me. I am using a SonyEricsson stereo BT thingy with my Qtek S200 (with A2DP hack) and as far as I can hear the output is stereo not mono from each channel.
I love mine compared to my Exec! Quicker and sleeker.
And got my 4GB miniSD this morning and it works fine
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This sounds new to me. I am using a SonyEricsson stereo BT thingy with my Qtek S200 (with A2DP hack) and as far as I can hear the output is stereo not mono from each channel.
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Yes, proper stereo could be possible with a registry hack but how many end users are to know that? Only the hardcore users frequent forums such as this & get to learn a lot about their devices. Assuming it can be done then why didn't HTC enable it in the first place? Mention a registry hack to the vast majority of users out there & I'm pretty sure you'll be met with a lot of blank expressions & ??????
With the aesthetic design of the trinity I think HTC are trying to market it to more mainstream audience, thats why my wife likes the look of it, but in all honesty how many of these new users will know how to exploit the device to the full. My wife never visits these forums & even her 8 month old Nokia N80 is still out of the box stock.
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Yes, proper stereo could be possible with a registry hack but how many end users are to know that?
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I thought the registry hack was only to enable A2DP on those devices where the manufacturer had disabled it and the end result of a hacked S200 would be the same of a standard TyTn or a standard P3600... Are you sure the P3600 output is not stereo?
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I thought the registry hack was only to enable A2DP on those devices where the manufacturer had disabled it and the end result of a hacked S200 would be the same of a standard TyTn or a standard P3600... Are you sure the P3600 output is not stereo?
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Pretty sure its not stereo, either that or the stereo separation is really poor because it sounded like mon to me. In saying that though when I paired my iTech R35 stereo bluetooth clip with it there was the option to tick headset mode & stereo mode but its too late now I've sent it back today.
The only dislike on my new P3600 is the position of penon the bottom! . I've used many pda, and the pen was on top! But for the rest I love it!!!!
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Pretty sure its not stereo, either that or the stereo separation is really poor because it sounded like mon to me. In saying that though when I paired my iTech R35 stereo bluetooth clip with it there was the option to tick headset mode & stereo mode but its too late now I've sent it back today.
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You are right the stereo bluetooth output is not stereo. This is ridiculous. I hope this can be fixed with some registry hacking otherwise HTC has really screwed this device big time.
One more thing, the smooth black coating is comming of from the bottom where the stylus is placed.... That's s REAL bad thing, since this will eventually tear up more and more of the coating... And I've only had it for two weeks
default A2DP registry settings for Trinity is:
UseJointStereo = 1
please change to:
UseJointStereo = 0
that will fix the "mono sound" issue.
Question
So far what i read, the software for this phone 3600 is not fully stable,
Camera still delay..
Some bugs
additional question following,
Delay of standard programs opening?
How about the sounds quality (loudness and clearness) is it very good?
which one is really better if compare 3600 and 3300(GPS enabled), which should i buy... -_-"
Thank you in advance..
fantastic device
Got my Trinity since yesterday. I had several phones and pda before (Dell Axim x51v was the last one) but the Trinity is the best until now. small enough, fast enough... if I only could get MMS to work for vodafone germany...
saminegm said:
Got my Trinity since yesterday. I had several phones and pda before (Dell Axim x51v was the last one) but the Trinity is the best until now. small enough, fast enough... if I only could get MMS to work for vodafone germany...
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Did you try these (manual entry and cab for Vodafone):
https://shop.dangaard.de/files/Qtek/Qtek.htm
Tytn and Trinity 3G/UMTS should be the same
So far...the trinity is my new favorite thing..very stable (have had to soft reset twice to get the Wifi signal running after a sync while wifi was on) and lots of fun. Phone is great and signal with one bar or less is still usable - where my old motorola was no good with a weak signal...and i can now make and take calls from my office - where previously there was no chance with the motorola. This device does everything I bought it for -combine my PDA and phone into one device...
where to buy
DaveUK said:
I love mine compared to my Exec! Quicker and sleeker.
And got my 4GB miniSD this morning and it works fine
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Can you please said where did you buy the miniSD? Thanks
Hi,
I can't stand the terrific sound produced by the boxed headphones and while looking for a miniUSB - 3.5mm adapter I found 2 HTC branded wired remotes that look good: W100 & E100:
E100: http://www.expansys.fr/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=150195
W100: http://www.expansys.fr/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=148543
These require a driver to be installed on the device (for controlling play/pause and call functions). On many sites, descriptions for both are identical.... and it's hard to know whether any of these actually work with the Kaiser as pointed by some users:
http://www.expansys.fr/r.aspx?i=148542&r=4930
Seems HTC is refusing any form of customer support as soon as you have a rebranded device, bad..
Can anyone confirm either the W100 or E100 works? hoping that not a matter or ROM (I'm the proud owner of a French Vodafone branded Kaiser)
Thanks
I don't know if anything about the remotes is ROM-specific, but I have the E100 that I use with MY AT&T-branded Tilt, and it works very, very well. I did not have to install a driver.
Also, the two remotes are identical - the only difference is color.
I hope this helps a little, even though your phone has a different ROM than mine.
Regards,
Hal
Great - thanks a lot, I'll go for it then! - can't wait to get this remote and hear how good this sounds combined with my audiotechnica ANC headphones !
Cheers,
For anyone who is interested i have a sony mw600 bluetooth headset which i have tried with different platforms on the HD2 with varying success.
However i now have wp7 mango installed and it works almost perfectly with the headset and is even showing the song titles.
Only issue i find is that sometimes when you use voice command it will call the number but not transfer the audio to the headset - but you can then transfer in call by just pressing the call button
mango seems to be running really well on the hd2 now.
many thanks to all the developers and everyone on this site
Hi redsufi!
In the matter of fact I am very interested that you have the MW600. Your timing also was perfect. I know it's a bit hassle but I wonder if you could help me with any of these things concerning the MW600?
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Hello!
To those of you with the MW600 here, I have a couple questions to you:
1) Can you use this as a microphone only device for let's say Skype and other voice communication programs (Ventrilo etc)? Meaning you wouldn't have any earbuds/headset plugged in the MW600 but only use its built in bluetooth microphone and listen through other (wireless) headphones that are plugged straight into the PC?
In other words: does the MW600 work as a microphone without having anything plugged into it? Could someone please test that? I would love to have a wireless mic on my shirt somewhere.
2) How good is the range inside a normal house? Does a single wall block almost all of it or can you wander around many rooms?
3) It was somewhat covered here but would you recommend it for its microphone quality or are there better ones around?
4) I realize this isn't under the Galaxy Tab section, but has anyone tried this device with that? How was it?
Thanks a lot in advance!
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I dont really use skype as its not available with windows phone 7 yet but with normal voice calls you can use the microphone wihtout the headphones attached so don't see that it would be a problem.
The range i think is 10metres and its fine through walls only when you get to the limit it just cuts off -
i find the quality of the mic and with listening to music is great
regarding the galaxy tab dont have one of these so you could try googling it
its a sony product so usually would only have full suppport of all the features with another sony product but all the functions work fine with wp7 on hd2 as well as wm6.5 - there were some issues wiht various android and nodo builds.
Alright, sounds good. Those helped a ton, thank you very much for the information!
Enjoy your MW600. I will soon probably too.
Works great with the Galaxy tab
Caller ID on WP7?
I have one(i.e. MW600)...It didn't display caller ID with WP7...rest is good ... does anybody know any fix or am I missing something.
I tried
DFT ,
elMInStER.blackSideSeven.1.12.7401,
BOYPPC-SHIFTPDA-Build 7.0.7392.0 -V5 , to name a few.
I was wondering the other day when i was using my Jabra Rythm in-ear headset (the ones with a mic), that when we are having a hardware solution (pretty expensive IMHO) for converting from TRRS to OMTP standard, (for those who are confused its the workaround when you use a apple/any headset with mic and you cant hear the volume properly untill you press down the mic button) why cant we have a software workarround.
I mean when the mobile is able to detect that its a TRRS headset (we get a pop up message that it is not supported (.42 onwards I guess) blocking us from using a duct tape arround the mic button to get it to work, why cant we make it re route the signals somwhow?? I mean is it possible???
I wish I could post this in the developers section but I am a newbie here. Can any developers find a solution for this??? or has it already been found out???
Ps. Mods, I had put this in the Q&A section and i got no response for over a month , thats why I have posted here. Please don't block/close this thread.
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Guys???? anyone??? why is there no replies to this??
anyways i used a Xperia S (friend got it in Singapore and got it to India) and i used the apple headphones(the ones with the mic) and they work fine without the adapter (unlike my arc) so is this a hardware issue or software issue (xperia s is running 2.3.6/8 if that helps).
I am really bummed using the adapter regularly.
How are others using the headphones with mic (if you are using one that is). If so which model are you using.
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i made a very small adapter to convert the TRRS and OMTP
like Fiio LU-1 (search it on google)
works perfect for all iphone headset
just a small adapter will work
I don't think there is any software fix for this.. otherwise we would've probably seen one by now. While it might be possible, it would likely be very impractical.
~iPod~nano~ said:
i made a very small adapter to convert the TRRS and OMTP
like Fiio LU-1 (search it on google)
works perfect for all iphone headset
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Bisa ngajarin?
I just removed the unsupported headset app and it works with generic headphone(no Mic) but when u connect you will get system ui not responding just hit ok and your good. Always back up the app tho
Good luck
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I am using z2 force phone with wireless charging moto mod and JBL speaker mod. Will these mods work with Z4 phone ?
Thanks,
Ching-Ho Cheng
I have projector, JBL soundboost 1 & 2, and 360° cam and all work with both Z3 Play and Z4
I don't have wireless charging mod though
Thank you
All mods should (theoretically) work on all z-phones
Got my new z4 unlocked phone from Lenovo and the Wireless charging mod fit right onto the phone ! Unlike my AT&T z2 force, this z4 is not carrier specific unlocked so it works with T-Mobile flawlessly. I am able to make either Wifi or Gsm call anywhere.
Will z4 get Android 10 update ? Right now, it uses Android 9. My wife new G6 unlocked phone also runs Android 9 but she hates the "missing" feature to adjust the ring/notification volume using volume adjuster buttons as in z2 force (running Android 8).