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Hopefully this is an ok location for this topic. I know previously there were rumors about the possibility of multiple nexus smartphones. Following the 10/29 announcement of the 5, 7, and 10, is this all we should expect? Or is a HTC Nexus 5 based on the Butterfly still something that coudl happen
No. If there was going to be a Nexus 5, it would have been announced with the other devices.
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Hopefully this is an ok location for this topic. I know previously there were rumors about the possibility of multiple nexus smartphones. Following the 10/29 announcement of the 5, 7, and 10, is this all we should expect? Or is a HTC Nexus 5 based on the Butterfly still something that coudl happen
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I think you are dreaming mate!
I think we will have the 4, 7 & 10 until next October when they announce the next Nexus?
I wouldn't bet on it
StuMcBill said:
I think you are dreaming mate!
I think we will have the 4, 7 & 10 until next October when they announce the next Nexus?
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Thanks, I guess it was wishful thinking on my part. Nexus 4 here we go!
I'd put all my money on there not being multiple Nexii. Rumors are rumors.
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I'd put all my money on there not being multiple Nexii. Rumors are rumors.
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Actually there were "multiple Nexus devices" this year made by many different manufacturers. It was never assumed that they would all be phones.
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Actually there were "multiple Nexus devices" this year made by many different manufacturers. It was never assumed that they would all be phones.
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I guess that got cleared out. Samsung, LG, Asus: 3 new Nexus devices.
I wouldn't expect any new nexus devices until android 5.0....Google never releases a new device without a new software release to power it.
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Actually there were "multiple Nexus devices" this year made by many different manufacturers. It was never assumed that they would all be phones.
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D'oh, you're right.
I herped a derp there. Disregard, I have two cats.
gideonMorrison said:
I guess that got cleared out. Samsung, LG, Asus: 3 new Nexus devices.
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Dont forget the ever popular Nexus Q.
Somehow.. launching Android 5 with a Nexus 5.. kinda makes sense
forsakened said:
Somehow.. launching Android 5 with a Nexus 5.. kinda makes sense
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with a 5" display
Red Wolf said:
with a 5" display
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Most definitely. Google's official Phablet
Red Wolf said:
with a 5" display
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And an 5 Core Processor + 5G RAM + 5MPx Cam ( fail?) and iPhone 5 Killer
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They typically release a new Nexus phone every 9-12 months.
10" tablet by samsung
7" tablet by asus
4.7" smartphone by LG
apparently there are supposed to be 5 nexus devices this year.. one of them being HTC based on the butterfly a 5-5.5inch 'phablet' ... and another device by motorola i think
i doubt the last 2 are gonna make an appearance this year
In that Verge video, they did say other manufacturers also tried out to be the company making the Nexus 4, so maybe those prototypes that other companies sent in might have been considered potentially released along with the LG one, but Google decided to only go with one of them.
My gut says if you want a 5" phone, you'll have to snag a Note II and put a custom ROM on it.
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IIRC the rumors of 5 Nexii or so came before IO 2012. So:
1. Nexus 7
2. Nexus 4
3 Nexus 10
4. Nexus Q (even though it wasn't released for long, the rumors said 5 before it didn't do well I believe)
5. 3G Nexus 7? Who knows-- maybe a fifth was cut or the rumors were just rumors.
http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entr...o-Galaxy-Note-8-0-Galaxy-S4-S3-and-few-others.
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i think they are referring to samsung devices only
its a list from samfirmware
about samsung devices only
did you really think only samsung devices would get keylime pie?:silly: :laugh:
No pessimism allowed.
It's a Nexus, and less than a year old at that. Have faith...
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It's a Nexus, and less than a year old at that. Have faith...
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No pessimism allowed... indeed... and AGREED!
Of course there's going to be a version of KLP for the Nexus 7!
Seems to me to be inevitable.
Not a case of 'if', but 'when' ... which of course, is the metaphorical Six Million Dollar Question.
So, I would recommend people just enjoy whatever ROM/Kernel configuration they currently have installed on this terrific little device... and instead of attempting to gainsay the future... let the future take care of itself - (it usually does, you know).
And when KLP eventually shows up for the N7, (as I'm sure it will, at some point)... we'll enjoy it all the more.
(And this is from a cynical, hardcore pessimist).
Rgrds,
Ged.
i am only basing this on gut instinct but i have a feeling our beloved nexus 7 might not get 5.0
hey mate!! im hoping your right
Its one of many Google babies that have yet to grow up and move on. We will get it, just a matter of time.
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chrisnewton said:
i am only basing this on gut instinct but i have a feeling our beloved nexus 7 might not get 5.0
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It's still well within the life cycle for official updates.
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I'm quite sure that the Nexus 7 will get KLP... If you look at the "Factory Images for Nexus Devices", you can see the other Nexus devices and how long they have been officially updated...
This thread is a waste of time, lock it down.
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I do believe we will get the Android 5.0. First of all, this is a nexus device, google's flagship line of devices. Second, nexus devices will get the latest updates FIRST before any other carriers. And Third, I think that the Nexus 7 has the capacity to run the KLP( I mean its still quad core right?).
Nexus 7 will deffo get KLP.
This is a samsung specific report, they are the devices in samsungs line that will recieve it.
Google isn't going to make KLP and not put it on their own devices.
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I'm quite sure that the Nexus 7 will get KLP... If you look at the "Factory Images for Nexus Devices", you can see the other Nexus devices and how long they have been officially updated...
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my nexus 7 and original nexus phone both got jellybean pretty much within a week of release..... and far before my s3
http://youtu.be/pv9qkWm16mM Video from Nvidia.
Maybe they have been working on this the whole time to fix any of the bugs that are left on the tablet!
Excellent!
I am staggered to understand that we are getting Lollipop this month.
This puts us basically in-line with the Nexus line, but for a cheaper point of entry price and arguably better features with stylus and other things like wifi direct controller.
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I am staggered to understand that we are getting Lollipop this month.
This puts us basically in-line with the Nexus line, but for a cheaper point of entry price and arguably better features with stylus and other things like wifi direct controller.
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Also it seems that unlike the Shield Tab the Nexus 9 was not built with very good cooling and it throttles itself at some point where as I have not got the Shield to throttle itself yet no matter what I have been playing.
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Also it seems that unlike the Shield Tab the Nexus 9 was not built with very good cooling and it throttles itself at some point where as I have not got the Shield to throttle itself yet no matter what I have been playing.
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The nexus 7 2013 suffered from this as well. The teeny-tiny mainboard on the left of the screen got scorching hot and topped out at 79 Degrees Celsius for me before throttling started happening. I've not seen any throttling on the Shield Tab on the same games. The max I've seen the temp get to was about 40 degrees.
jaredmorgs said:
The nexus 7 2013 suffered from this as well. The teeny-tiny mainboard on the left of the screen got scorching hot and topped out at 79 Degrees Celsius for me before throttling started happening. I've not seen any throttling on the Shield Tab on the same games. The max I've seen the temp get to was about 40 degrees.
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Yeah Nvidia is quite good at keeping chips cool, one of the best even so it is not surprising. That was a big factor in me picking up the Shield even though I knew about the N9 coming.
Is development for this device likely to pick up along with the Nexus 9?
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Is development for this device likely to pick up along with the Nexus 9?
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No not really, you realize 5.0 has been announced to be out this month on this tab. Ever since launch everyone has been looking forward to it, people don't want to waste time on a KK ROM.
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I heard the source is already out and we should be getting it within the week. Dont get your hopes up.
Will lollipop be able to be rooted? I've read different information and I'm getting confused.
xXsquirr3lsXx said:
I heard the source is already out and we should be getting it within the week. Dont get your hopes up.
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Where did you hear that?
dukehazard77 said:
Where did you hear that?
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Saw it from a comment on 5.0 Shield Tab review video.
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Will lollipop be able to be rooted? I've read different information and I'm getting confused.
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Chainfire already rooted the Nexus 6 so im assuming it can be done with Nvidia as well.
If the RMA I'm getting doesn't fix my LTE/signal issues, I'm really hoping that the Lollipop update fixes it.
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If the RMA I'm getting doesn't fix my LTE/signal issues, I'm really hoping that the Lollipop update fixes it.
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I went through and fastboot erased all partitions then flash stock and took all the OTA updates when the last update came out and my 5GHz has been close to on par with my 2.4GHz band from then on. I also use the TP Link Archer C7 and its been nothing but fantastic at pushing 5GHz to my stuff but I hated the 5 band until the recent update.
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I went through and fastboot erased all partitions then flash stock and took all the OTA updates when the last update came out and my 5GHz has been close to on par with my 2.4GHz band from then on. I also use the TP Link Archer C7 and its been nothing but fantastic at pushing 5GHz to my stuff but I hated the 5 band until the recent update.
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I only have LTE issues and cracked ccorners
EDIT: I just heard back from them that the TMO issue is an open bug "and will be fixed in a future update".
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busab said:
Will lollipop be able to be rooted? I've read different information and I'm getting confused.
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I am no expert but I think we would need a custom kernel to root on 5.0. I am not going to take 5.0 till exposed and other root apps I love are compatible though.
Levi -Sent from my SHIELD
Latheman said:
I am no expert but I think we would need a custom kernel to root on 5.0. I am not going to take 5.0 till exposed and other root apps I love are compatible though.
Levi -Sent from my SHIELD
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Chainfire rooted the Nexus 9 running Lollipop and im pretty sure he didnt have to use a kernel. BusyBox is also updated for Lollipop.
I'm not sure why it surprises anyone that Nvidia would be quick out of the gate to update to Lollipop. The K1 is one of what, 3 or 4 64-bit ARM chipsets out today?
I will admit, though, that I was somewhat unsure when I bought the Shield Tablet as to Nvidia's commitment to keeping it updated and their relatively small presence in Android devices. But given the processing power that is unlocked with a 64-bit OS and games that are optimized for 64-bit, it doesn't surprise me that they are committed to it at least for the 5.0 release. After that, we'll see. But honestly, 5.0 is such a major release that I can see not getting another major update for another two or three years, at which point most of us on XDA will have upgraded anyhow.
As for the question of whether it will be rooted, Android will *always* have a root exploit, and with 80% of the mobile market, there are so many eyes poring over the code to find it that it really isn't a question of "if" but "when".
Just to be clear, the Tegra k1 in the Shield tablet is not 64bit. Nvidia confusingly makes two versions of the k1. A 4 core arm7 (32bit) and a 2 core arm8 (64bit). The Shield tablet has the former, the nexus 9 has the latter.
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http://www.techtimes.com/articles/7...xus-7-is-reportedly-not-getting-android-m.htm
Just saw this, not sure if this news is reliable but that would kind of suck..
Far from credible. Honestly if it doesn't come from Google or Android Police don't beleve it. Actually don't even trust Google just AP.
Someone sent us a tip saying “goodbye Nexus 7, no Android M for you”, and they also said they are close to the Android M development...
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Thats the source lol.
I can see maybe the 2012 nexus 7 being dropped from M update.
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Would be bad if Google dropped support for a 1 1/2 yr old device (not looking at release date) . More fragmentation and might give Apple fanboys more to brag about .
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The nexus 7 2012 is fine but if google stops updating the 2013 version I'm gonna bust their asses my Xperia Z1 from 2013 even has a chance of getting M...
atm android 5.1.1 still sucks on my N7 so I hoped that M would fix my issues!
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Would be bad if Google dropped support for a 1 1/2 yr old device (not looking at release date) . More fragmentation and might give Apple fanboys more to brag about .
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They promised at least 18 months of updates after they stopped selling a device in the play store, iirc
Edit: here's the ap article, it looks like we might not get M
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...e-with-an-update-guarantee-for-nexus-devices/
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They promised at least 18 months of updates after they stopped selling a device in the play store, iirc
Edit: here's the ap article, it looks like we might not get M
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...e-with-an-update-guarantee-for-nexus-devices/
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Hmm ... Not sure if Andoid M classifes as a update or as patch . IMHO its both ,since 5.1 is sluggish and tad buggy .
No updates would be bad and it sucks . One might think why invest in a expensive Nexus device when updates are so short lived . Apple fanboys might have some thing to brag about .
I'm not very concerned. Even if Google doesn't give us the update, it probably won't be very long before CyanogenMod comes out with it. I'm willing to bet that this tablet continues to get community support for another couple of years.
Without a CM Flo or deb device maintainer I doubt CM based on Android M would appear officially for us. Maybe other ROMs that have flo maintainers/devs will bring Android M to our devices after making 5.1.1 Lollipop binaries and stuff compatible with M
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Hmm ... Not sure if Andoid M classifes as a update or as patch . IMHO its both ,since 5.1 is sluggish and tad buggy .
No updates would be bad and it sucks . One might think why invest in a expensive Nexus device when updates are so short lived . Apple fanboys might have some thing to brag about .
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The only thing keeping me on Android is the ability to root, secure my devices, and retain full control of the file system - you know, administer the device. This is slowly being taken away, and when it does, I will probably jump ship. Apple makes quality hardware, and iOS isn't awful. It just doesn't give you any easy methods to truly administer the device without jumping through hoops.
In a world where you are a guest on your own device regardless of OS, Apple will come out the winner.
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The only thing keeping me on Android is the ability to root, secure my devices, and retain full control of the file system - you know, administer the device. This is slowly being taken away, and when it does, I will probably jump ship. Apple makes quality hardware, and iOS isn't awful. It just doesn't give you any easy methods to truly administer the device without jumping through hoops.
In a world where you are a guest on your own device regardless of OS, Apple will come out the winner.
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Besides the point you mentioned , Android does have other benefits ... But I was talking more in terms of Nexus devices . If high end devices & Nexus devices (from the google stable) dont get updates for longer , it would be crappy .No point investing in an expensive Nexus device..
If they stopped selling the N7 2013 in October 2014, 18 months of updates would end April 2016 I think.
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2 years after release date
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Despite rumors circulating about the chance of official M for flo, I doubt that it will be left out. After all, Google recently announced monthly updates for a list of nexus devices that includes flo. Even if those updates came only in the form of patches for L, I'm sure unofficial support will be there. Even my old galaxy nexus has unofficially made it to the latest revision of lollipop...
I believe we will get it. It just turned 2 and its only like 3 month's older than the nexus 5. It'll be the last major update but it'll still get it. The 2 year guarantee is just that, a guarantee it doesn't mean they'll necessarily cut off devices at that point
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I believe we will get it. It just turned 2 and its only like 3 month's older than the nexus 5. It'll be the last major update but it'll still get it. The 2 year guarantee is just that, a guarantee it doesn't mean they'll necessarily cut off devices at that point
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Totally agree, 5.1.1 runs smooth on my N7 so I see no reason from a hardware perspective that the N7 shouldn't get M. I think it will be last release so lets hope its a good one.
When I bought my wife's 2013 Nexus 7, it was mid-2014 and I thought for sure it was my only chance of owning a Nexus device, living in the US. I bought it for me, but then I discovered I don't like tablets very much. Fortunately, my wife loves it, so I wiped it and made it hers.
From 4.2 to 4.3, 4.4, 5.0, and now 5.1, it's had four major updates. That's more than any Android phone I've owned has gotten. First got one, second got none, third one got three, fourth one got one so far. Samsung, Motorola, and Samsung again on US Cellular, and HTC on Verizon. All flagships but the first one. It seems to me that I really care about updates on my phones, but on the tablet, it doesn't matter. The tablet doesn't feel like a mission-critical device. It feels like a media device. Had the price gap not been so wide, I wonder if I shouldn't have just gotten an iPad. Not that the Nexus 7 is bad. I just found that a tablet didn't do anything for me. It's just a bigger screen.
If Google is going to cut Nexus updates off after just two years, that's better than a lot of OEM phones get. Though, I do wonder, why did the Nexus 4, released in 2012, get the M preview, but not flo, released in 2013? Or am I mistaken? Was the Nexus 4 abandoned as well?
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When I bought my wife's 2013 Nexus 7, it was mid-2014 and I thought for sure it was my only chance of owning a Nexus device, living in the US. I bought it for me, but then I discovered I don't like tablets very much. Fortunately, my wife loves it, so I wiped it and made it hers.
From 4.2 to 4.3, 4.4, 5.0, and now 5.1, it's had four major updates. That's more than any Android phone I've owned has gotten. First got one, second got none, third one got three, fourth one got one so far. Samsung, Motorola, and Samsung again on US Cellular, and HTC on Verizon. All flagships but the first one. It seems to me that I really care about updates on my phones, but on the tablet, it doesn't matter. The tablet doesn't feel like a mission-critical device. It feels like a media device. Had the price gap not been so wide, I wonder if I shouldn't have just gotten an iPad. Not that the Nexus 7 is bad. I just found that a tablet didn't do anything for me. It's just a bigger screen.
If Google is going to cut Nexus updates off after just two years, that's better than a lot of OEM phones get. Though, I do wonder, why did the Nexus 4, released in 2012, get the M preview, but not flo, released in 2013? Or am I mistaken? Was the Nexus 4 abandoned as well?
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M developer preview was available for the nexus 5,6 and 9, unfortunately the nexus 4 didn't make the cut, as you quite rightly said, it was released in 2012, which is a bit more than the two year update garuntee
I want marshmallow, any custom rom for flo?
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I want marshmallow, any custom rom for flo?
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Marshmallow hasn't been released so there is no AOSP Source made public from Google. ROMs will appear once Android 6.0 and it's Source Code is released (rumored by the end of this month)
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So I didn't see this mentioned here yet, but Android O preview 1 is now up for newer devices. I'm almost certain we won't be getting it officially when it's final, but thought I'd mention it.
We aren't
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We aren't
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Yea, I know the Nexus 6 is past it's update period, just thought I'd mention that it's a thing.
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Yea, I know the Nexus 6 is past it's update period, just thought I'd mention that it's a thing.
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Yeah it is being talked about in other threads as the big worry is that with all code starting to be 64bit only that 7.1.1 will be the death of the n6 and just about every device before it.
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Yeah it is being talked about in other threads as the big worry is that with all code starting to be 64bit only that 7.1.1 will be the death of the n6 and just about every device before it.
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I did some searching and saw that, some people are dead set on saying that it will be possible to port it, even saying that there will be 32 bit AOSP as well. but I wanna say it's wishful thinking. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens!
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I did some searching and saw that, some people are dead set on saying that it will be possible to port it, even saying that there will be 32 bit AOSP as well. but I wanna say it's wishful thinking. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens!
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Yeah those that say that have never tried to port something from a 64 bit chip to a 32bit chip. They are assuming that Google plans on supporting older devices. We all know Google couldn't care less about them and it is up to the oem to make it work on their devices.
But only time will tell.
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Yeah those that say that have never tried to port something from a 64 bit chip to a 32bit chip. They are assuming that Google plans on supporting older devices. We all know Google couldn't care less about them and it is up to the oem to make it work on their devices.
But only time will tell.
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I'll just keep my fingers crossed, but shouldn't get my hopes too high. Thanks Zelendel!
After having my Nexus 6 for 2 years and some months I'm upgrading to a Pixel. I always like to have the newest Android so its time to upgrade.
Loved the phone while it lasted after having Nexus S, Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 4, Nexus 5 and Nexus 6
I hope my N6 with 7.1.1 may hold another couple of years.
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32bit is far from dead. Only 64bit preview is out and 32bit will become available when aosp drops officially. Post 8 in this thread explains more https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/help/android-o-nexus-6-t3576916