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Should Sprint and T-Mobile merge?

Sprint in Talks to Buy T-Mobile: http://www.mobiledia.com/news/83611.html
If Sprint does purchase T-Mobile, it would merge the third and fourth-largest carriers into a single, unified company that serves more than 80 million customers -- 49.9 million from Sprint and 33.7 million from T-Mobile. That would allow it to be vastly more capable of competing with AT&T, which has 95.5 million subscribers, and Verizon, with 94.1 million.
In addition, T-Mobile could also use Sprint's cash, clout and partnership to fund its wireless spectrum needs and 4G rollout.
But the Sprint-T-Mobile tie-up would also be much more complicated. The two companies run incompatible cellular networks -- Sprint on CDMA and T-Mobile with GSM -- which could throw Sprint into a toxic situation similar to when it purchased Nextel, another incompatible network, in 2005.
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1. iDEN network is being phased out in 2013, freeing up spectrum for Sprint's 3G/4G.
2. Switching to LTE is supposed to be 'easy' since it shares 70-80% of its DNA with Wimax. Sprint will make a decision on Wimax vs LTE in 6 months.
3. Sprint's Network Vision will consolidate its different network equipment/stations, making them take up less space and less cost to run.
4. T-Mobile is in dire need of spectrum, which Sprint/Clearwire has a lot of.
5. T-Mobile has not yet adopted a new 4G network (LTE) beyond its enhanced HSPA network marketed as '4G'.

It would be awesome to have a GSM/CDMA multi chip phone. LOL
Not a tech guy so I don't even know if that's possible.
But I think merging with T-Mobile would only open up the "dead" areas near me with coverage.

Overstew said:
It would be awesome to have a GSM/CDMA multi chip phone. LOL
Not a tech guy so I don't even know if that's possible.
But I think merging with T-Mobile would only open up the "dead" areas near me with coverage.
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Im sure it will be possible soon, the way technology rolls out..
and i voted yes and agree with overstew!!

1. iDEN network is being phased out in 2013 said:
I dunno, all i can say it they i hope they keep the hype up cause my shares just went up 27 cents before close.
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Touch Pro 2 was cdma/gsm and there was an unlock if I remember to let you use it on other gsm networks
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Here in PR, AT&T bought Centenial which was a CDMA carrier. All Centenial customers remained until their contracts were up and then they would have to switch over to AT&T (for now). AT&T started shutting CDMA towers down -which sucked because Sprint used them also, making our signal suck- and are in the process of migrating all CDMA accounts to GSM.
Also happened a few years ago with Verizon in the island. VZN sold its network to Claro and switched almost all their towers to GSM (but still use some CDMA towers for data I believe, not sure).

Personally, I would really like that, but it seems obscure, don't you think, I mean, come on a CDMA/GSM device, imagine how much it would cost, and also the monthly bill would probably go up to cover extra operating costs. Although, it may happen, just think about it

gokuman56 said:
Personally, I would really like that, but it seems obscure, don't you think, I mean, come on a CDMA/GSM device, imagine how much it would cost, and also the monthly bill would probably go up to cover extra operating costs. Although, it may happen, just think about it
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Nothing about a merger implies a CDMA/GSM device, in fact in the event of a merger things would stay pretty much the same for quite a while, it could be years till they make a decision on which path to follow then even longer to switch their antennae over.

If they did merge and keep both GSM and cdma im sure it is possible since the processors in Verizon's iPhone 4 is technically capable of doing both GSM and.cdma be we'll see
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On the one hand,
Yes, I would love better coverage and, more importantly, GSM/LTE phones without having to go to AT&FT.
On the other hand,
No, we need more competition here, not less, especially if the feds are caving on wireless net neutrality.

If they do merge would be pretty pointless for them to have took the time to make a CDMA Nexus S lol
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063_XOBX said:
Nothing about a merger implies a CDMA/GSM device, in fact in the event of a merger things would stay pretty much the same for quite a while, it could be years till they make a decision on which path to follow then even longer to switch their antennae over.
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No, there would never be a CDMA/GSM device, but there could be GSM/WiMax and CDMA/LTE devices.
If a phone has either GSM or LTE in it, that means you can use it anywhere in the world. GSM phones can be used now, LTE phones can be used in a couple years once other countries build out 4G.

GO GET EM!!! lol actually if I was ever going to leave sprint it was going to be for tmobile..

drizek said:
No, there would never be a CDMA/GSM device, but there could be GSM/WiMax and CDMA/LTE devices.
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The BlackBerry 9630 and 9650 are GSM/CDMA.

Touch Pro 2 was a CDMA/GSM device, and the Droid 2 Pro is also CDMA/GSM. China has a lot of phones that have similar capabilities. It's not exactly unheard of to do dual mode phones.

ichefae85 said:
If they did merge and keep both GSM and cdma im sure it is possible since the processors in Verizon's iPhone 4 is technically capable of doing both GSM and.cdma be we'll see
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Your argument is invalid.
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Firon said:
Touch Pro 2 was a CDMA/GSM device, and the Droid 2 Pro is also CDMA/GSM. China has a lot of phones that have similar capabilities. It's not exactly unheard of to do dual mode phones.
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another reason why i miss my TP2,that and having the best hardware keyboard ever..

If Sprint does get T-Mobile, would T-Mobile be renamed Sprint Spectrum since that's what it was originally?
Remember Sprint Spectrum, it was GSM, then Sprint spun it off, as a company called Voice Stream, to switch to CDMA.

Probably keep the Sprint brand. Takes you back to when Cingular bought at&t or AT&T, whatever capitalization they used.

I say "yes" anything to raise sprints "s" stock, sprint is killing me and I am to much in a hole to sell.... 8( . I need them to be 6 and above to start making $$$$$.

Galaxy S II Launching on Verizon in May!!!

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Moving out of April, May should see its share of Android, as well. May 5th is given as the day we can expect the the 4G LTE LG Revolution , and the Motorola DROID BIONIC is loosely listed with a May release, as well. Also without certain dates but listed as launching in May (or later) are the Motorola Droid X 2 and, get this, the Samsung Galaxy S II. I don’t think we expected the US launch of the Galaxy S followup to come so soon, but Verizon is suggesting it might be so (unless they are simply suggesting the launch will come after May).
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Here's to hoping AT&T will pick it up, and also that they don't mess with it.

Does verizon runs also on 850/1900 ?
i though they were on CDMA

Papi4baby said:
Here's to hoping AT&T will pick it up, and also that they don't mess with it.
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The international version will work with AT&T but keep in mind AT&T does not offer unlimited data or free tethering.
AllGamer said:
Does verizon runs also on 850/1900 ?
i though they were on CDMA
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This is point, Verizon will mod the stock phone to add CDMA radios.

open1your1eyes0 said:
The international version will work with AT&T but keep in mind AT&T does not offer unlimited data or free tethering.
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I am on a iphone unlimited plan with them right now. I just can't justify to drop that amount of money for a phone when the plans will cost me the same as getting a subsidized one from them.
Verizon is good in my area, but ATT is better, and the 3G is almost 3 times as fast as Verizon. I also hate the voice quality of Verizon, my area is too saturated with Verizon customers.

Papi4baby said:
I am on a iphone unlimited plan with them right now. I just can't justify to drop that amount of money for a phone when the plans will cost me the same as getting a subsidized one from them.
Verizon is good in my area, but ATT is better, and the 3G is almost 3 times as fast as Verizon. I also hate the voice quality of Verizon, my area is too saturated with Verizon customers.
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Of course if you are already grandfathered into AT&T's unlimited plan then you're fine. I would still be weary of tethering though because there have been recent news of AT&T cracking down on unauthorized tethering for those who don't pay for it.

Yay! Can't believe they fit 4G into such a thin phone, the other 4G phones are quite thick.

not happening.. there is no way that the phone wll be modified in such a short time after initial release to be a cdma version.. also we would have already seen it going through fcc approval if that was the case.

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lgkahn said:
not happening.. there is no way that the phone wll be modified in such a short time after initial release to be a cdma version.. also we would have already seen it going through fcc approval if that was the case.
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Take look at this:
I'll let you know that I played with one on 3/19/2011 in a VZW store that was being held hostage by the Samsung rep. Yes, GS2 in VZW and it was the same form factor.
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drleospaceman said:
Probably outdated/inaccurate. Doesn't mention the Stealth/Charge which verizon is getting for sure around the same time or earlier (might've even mixed those up).
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It says "Samsung Charge" 4/7/2011 right in the pic.

Hopefully this means that T-Mobile will see the SGS2 by late April. That would be the case since T-Mobile is GSM right?

Bing, bloat ware, contracts, delayed updates. Oh joy.

This won't launch in May. Doesn't make sense. Why would they release this less than a month after the Charge? Plus, each carrier will make their alterations, just like they did with the original GS line, and that will push a release well into the summer/fall
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Virtue94 said:
Hopefully this means that T-Mobile will see the SGS2 by late April. That would be the case since T-Mobile is GSM right?
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This is correct T-Mobile does use GSM bands.
Kevin Gossett said:
This won't launch in May. Doesn't make sense. Why would they release this less than a month after the Charge? Plus, each carrier will make their alterations, just like they did with the original GS line, and that will push a release well into the summer/fall
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The Charge is not planning to be released as a flagship device so it is not competing with it. Also since they already have a roadmap out, that means they already have at least several samples for the network and are working on bugs and extra support to meet a deadline.

That roadmap is highly suspect... Many are skeptical of it's authenticity. And the Charge isn't a flagship device for Samsung, but it does have the Droid branding for Verizon, so it doesn't make sense that VZW would launch a superior device a month later. Just my .02

Kevin Gossett said:
That roadmap is highly suspect... Many are skeptical of it's authenticity. And the Charge isn't a flagship device for Samsung, but it does have the Droid branding for Verizon, so it doesn't make sense that VZW would launch a superior device a month later. Just my .02
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While I agree the authenticity is skeptical it is the only thing we have to go on thus far and we have no received word from Verizon or anyone else proving this false. Also my point was that it was not a flagship device for Verizon either.

lgkahn said:
not happening.. there is no way that the phone wll be modified in such a short time after initial release to be a cdma version.. also we would have already seen it going through fcc approval if that was the case.
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Because FCC compliance isn't needed yet. They have no intention of selling it right now. Go look at how far out the Xoom was sent to the FCC. 2 weeks before release. Same thing with iPhones... Manufacturers hold FCC checks until the last possible moment to keep their devices as close to secret as possible. I expect FCC submission to happen about 2 weeks before release.
As for the LTE, the VZW rep was the one that said it had LTE, but I could not confirm it on the actual device as there was no data connection enabled in the software at all. Perhaps that's even more of a confirmation as we have all seen the ATT devices with functioning data connections.
So maybe they haven't gotten the LTE drivers ready for the LTE chipset in the phone??? Or maybe she just had a GSM device and turned off the data so when she went into VZW they wouldn't see "AT&T" on the screen??
Don't know, but I couldn't verify the rep's claims when I looked at the phone. I do know what was both said to me on 3/19 and now what was leaked to phandroid...and they both jive.
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I would love if this were true, but I'm not going to get my hopes up... Verizon always gets the good phones really late.

open1your1eyes0 said:
The international version will work with AT&T
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If the international version works with 850/1900, I'll get UK or Singapore version.
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So if Verizon grabs our lovely S2 and refits it with a CDMA radio are we looking at the same BS Verizon produced with the Droid 2 Global where it's a """Global Phone""" but it won't work on any other network because Verzion is a criminal organization? Will Sprint/AT&T have the buying power to keep GSM based S2s in circulation? Living here in Canada it's frustrating to be technologically backwards, it's even more frustrating when a greedy corporation like Verizon locks the phone down in the US, eliminating it's availabilty in Canada and making it virtually impossible to get one down there unlocked for up here.....
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I suppose I could always order a phone from the international market but with it's market pull (considering it's the only phone that doesn't seem to have any compromise except for the 3 button versus 4 button push) it'll take forever to get one :/

Walmart/T-Mobile Prepaid $30/mo "Unlimited" 4G Plan + Unlimited Text/100 Minutes

Walmart/T-Mobile Prepaid $30/mo "Unlimited" 4G Plan + Unlimited Text/100 Minutes
Who is getting this epically awesome plan?
I am!
I felt the need to spread the word.
http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/articles/walmart-and-t-mobile-introduce-exclusive-no-annual-contract-4g-offering

Not even close to suitable for my needs.
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Hmm yeah I suppose if you need a TON of data, you are better off elsewhere...but for people who want to stick with a GSM carrier, there's nothing better right now!
I'm not sure I could ever give up switching phones as I please.

Be ware....It's not prepaid. If you run out of minutes they charge you like 90 dollars. Read the fine print. I had 30 dollars worth of data left I didn't even use switched to tmobile thinking prepaid is prepaid and they sent me a bill for 90 cancelation fee. Didn't even use my 30 worth of paid for data

No, it's NOT just TONS of Data. It's also minutes. 100 minutes? Yeah, I don't think so. This plan isn't that great. If it meets your needs fine, but don't go talking down to others JUST BECAUSE THEY DON'T AGREE WITH YOU.
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Whoa, not sure where all the hate is coming from. I suppose I misunderstood you and certainly was not talking down to you. So I apologize.
Anyway, my plan is to use Google Voice or sipdroid since the minutes are capped to only 100. I just wanted to make people aware of the opportunity.
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styndall said:
Whoa, not sure where all the hate is coming from. I suppose I misunderstood you and certainly was not talking down to you. So I apologize.
Anyway, my plan is to use Google Voice or sipdroid since the minutes are capped to only 100. I just wanted to make people aware of the opportunity.
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There's no hate. Your post about TONS OF DATA was condescending.
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I can tell you that I am going to jump on this Sunday.
It is perfect for the 3G GSM cellular modem in my laptop.
I am sick of not having internet access in some places and as I won't ever be using voice or giving out that number it is just perfect and a deal!
Plus no f---ing contract.

Can someone confirm this plans now works fine and it is not a fiasco it was right after the release? I have HD2 Tmobile US and wonder if it will work on my phone?
I barely use my phone for talking and never over 100mins - data is pretty much what I use for the most of the time and this plan seems like a winner...
What else should we know about this plan?

Hmm yeah I suppose if you need a TON of data, you are better off elsewhere...but for people who want to stick with a GSM carrier, there's nothing better right now!
I'm not sure I could ever give up switching phones as I please.
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Nope. Not really helpful.

eenbox said:
Can someone confirm this plans now works fine and it is not a fiasco it was right after the release? I have HD2 Tmobile US and wonder if it will work on my phone?
I barely use my phone for talking and never over 100mins - data is pretty much what I use for the most of the time and this plan seems like a winner...
What else should we know about this plan?
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Check HoFo. I haven't found much useful information here on XDA.
Of note, I have found no problems with the plan thus far (have only used it for 1 month)

hey everyone. so apparently mobile to mobile doesnt apply to monthly 4g plans. i never read this anywhere and i tried to do as much research as i could before i tired to get on this plan. but now, after 1 day of ussage, im out of minutes.
if you guys have any specific questions, post them, and ill try to answer them

Fact: I found that I had to buy a $30 t-mo phone at walmart to get this plan, and after activation, I moved the sim to a nicer device (bought a nearly unused lg g2x for cheap). I don't talk on the phone, google voice when I do (voice messages conveniently converted to text) and never give out my t-mo phone #.
History: I have been using boost for a couple years and was happy with their service/plan, but even the rather nice samy prevail (thank you ShabbyPenguin!!) was feeling a bit limited (despite root and link2sd). Was about to try Hoarks CM7 on it. I did not feel like trying to get a regular sprint phone to work on boost either.
Review: Signal strength not as good at home, but I use wifi here anyways. I get about 2Mb data over cell here tho, so not too bad. Phone is a kickass upgrade (CWM, CM7 nightly thanks to XDA forums tutorials!) and I like that I can use my sim in many other devices!
Expect to pay $30 for a phone and $30 for plan. Web activation of phone worked. Be sure to use THE AGENT CODE on the phone box! I bought the $30 card but using the scratch and dust number did not validate online , I called tmobile number and entered it there and it validated (whew!).
hope that sheds some light...
eenbox said:
Can someone confirm this plans now works fine and it is not a fiasco it was right after the release? I have HD2 Tmobile US and wonder if it will work on my phone?
I barely use my phone for talking and never over 100mins - data is pretty much what I use for the most of the time and this plan seems like a winner...
What else should we know about this plan?
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freelikegnu said:
Be sure to use THE AGENT CODE on the phone box! I bought the $30 card but using the scratch and dust number
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Is the agent code unique? If not, can you share it?

I just ordered the SIM on T-Mobile's website (ended up getting it as an addition to my postpaid plan for my NS which was sitting unused). I followed the activation steps in the booklet that came with the SIM. No agent code needed and I paid $5.34 for the SIM.
NOTE: This only works if you already have a compatible phone with AWS bands. I don't know about activating a newly bought phone on this plan.
Wasn't me!! I didn't do it!

I'm moving back to DC this summer (from Beijing) and I want to get on this plan. But I lost my phone the other day and need something for the next 3 months.
Q: Is there any Android/ICS international phone I can buy that can be hacked to work with Tmobile HSPA+? I'd say the HTC One S would be perfect for me, but I don't think you can get the one with TMobile 1700 CDMA band.

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international[/U] phone I can buy that can be hacked to work with Tmobile HSPA+? I'd say the HTC One S would be perfect for me, but I don't think you can get the one with TMobile 1700 CDMA band.
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Is the Google's Galaxy Nexus an "international" phone? That may be an option.

Considering changing to this plan...
Has anybody tried tethering on this plan? Also, any non-overage related throttling to report?
mixersoft said:
I'm moving back to DC this summer (from Beijing) and I want to get on this plan. But I lost my phone the other day and need something for the next 3 months.
Q: Is there any Android/ICS international phone I can buy that can be hacked to work with Tmobile HSPA+? I'd say the HTC One S would be perfect for me, but I don't think you can get the one with TMobile 1700 CDMA band.
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Generally, no. Some hacking has been done on AT&T-branded phones (e.g. Galaxy Note) to get them to work with T-Mobile's 3G. However, most phones are incapable of this. Saying 1700 band is a bit misleading - as there are a couple 1700MHz bands that are not AWS (i.e. T-Mobile USA).
So far, all of the Nexus phones (GSM versions, excluding "a" variants which support AT&T's 3G) work with the AWS band. A few others like the Sensation and Evo 3D come to mind.
Your options will be limited because the AWS band is fairly unpopular. Most manufacturers don't bother with it as it's used only on the less-popular networks of the U.S. and Canada - nowhere else.

Who is using a Verizon G2 on T-Mobile?

I just learned that the Verizon version comes SIM unlocked and should work on T-Mobile and AT&T. Anyone here using it on T-Mobile? What are your results? I know LTE is a no-go, but do you get decent speeds in a refarmed area? I can't find any T-Mobile versions on Craigslist, but there are a ton of Verizon versions for pretty cheap so I was thinking of snatching one up if you guys have had any luck.
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Actually I'm pretty sure u can use lte on Tmo as they use aws bands for lte which is one of the 2 bands the vzw model supports. If u go to the g2 Wikipedia page it shows compatible bands for all varients
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Instead of creating a new thread I decided to bump yours.
While I still have unlimited data on Verizon, I know it won't last forever, so I bought a SIM and activated it on the $30/mo plan. Today is the first day with it, and while I don't get coverage at work which I already knew, GPRS and EDGE seem to work, just very, very slowly. I went into an LTE area and I did not have LTE, but had HSPA+ and as I drove away it switched to HSPA, then back to EDGE. While on HSPA+ I ran two speed tests, pings were around 60ms but the download speed was about 1-1.5Mbps, and upload was well under 1Mbps.
I'm running CM 10.2 (CM11 has BT issues for me), does anyone else use their Verizon phone on T-Mobile and gets better speeds? Last year I bought a Nexus 4 and in a close location I got 15-20Mbps on HSPA+, so I think it's something with this phone.
I also noticed that despite being connected to GPRS, EDGE, or HSPA+ in about phone it says the signal strength is -120dBm and doesn't move.

I think the G2 doesn't have the AWS LTE bands enable yet. Maybe in a future update.

SmiLey497 said:
I think the G2 doesn't have the AWS LTE bands enable yet. Maybe in a future update.
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Turns out I just didn't give it enough time. Running 12b radio and now I can access their LTE network.

geoff5093 said:
Turns out I just didn't give it enough time. Running 12b radio and now I can access their LTE network.
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How much time did you need to give it, and are there any modes that need to be enabled? I'm on stock ROM with 12b but can't seem to get past HSPA. If switch the phone to LTE/CDMA, it doesn't find any service but will find HSPA when in Global mode.
My Verizon S4 would find T-Mobile LTE when switched to LTE/CDMA, but wouldn't find the GSM networks unless switched to Global. Using the phone info app, I was able to set it to LTE/GSM auto PRL, but that app doesn't seem to work for the G2.

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How much time did you need to give it, and are there any modes that need to be enabled? I'm on stock ROM with 12b but can't seem to get past HSPA. If switch the phone to LTE/CDMA, it doesn't find any service but will find HSPA when in Global mode.
My Verizon S4 would find T-Mobile LTE when switched to LTE/CDMA, but wouldn't find the GSM networks unless switched to Global. Using the phone info app, I was able to set it to LTE/GSM auto PRL, but that app doesn't seem to work for the G2.
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I think it was just because I was in a poor 4G/LTE coverage area. Later that day I went into the city and it jumped right to LTE.

geoff5093 said:
I think it was just because I was in a poor 4G/LTE coverage area. Later that day I went into the city and it jumped right to LTE.
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Gotcha, but this was using CM10, correct?

TJBunch1228 said:
I just learned that the Verizon version comes SIM unlocked and should work on T-Mobile and AT&T. Anyone here using it on T-Mobile? What are your results? I know LTE is a no-go, but do you get decent speeds in a refarmed area? I can't find any T-Mobile versions on Craigslist, but there are a ton of Verizon versions for pretty cheap so I was thinking of snatching one up if you guys have had any luck.
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I had some odd connection display issues with the stock rom from verizon.
It seems to try to check for it cdma network. And the annoying ?Sim Simbol.
I just flashed the t-mobile stock rom with the flex patch.
Been using it as if its a tmobile phone.
Blazingfast stable and it was dirt cheap.
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So I've got a similar question, but if I got a verizon version of this phone (due to cost - the verizon one sells for ~30-50 cheaper) can I use it with straight talk for data/talking/text/mms/etc.? Or does ONLY data work when using an ATT/T Mobile sim?
My plan is to use the phone with a ATT straight talk sim card.

This is a nice bit of information considering ill be switching to T-mobile next month... so your telling me i just pop a T-mo sim in this g2 and boom thats the end of it?

Germanese said:
I had some odd connection display issues with the stock rom from verizon.
It seems to try to check for it cdma network. And the annoying ?Sim Simbol.
I just flashed the t-mobile stock rom with the flex patch.
Been using it as if its a tmobile phone.
Blazingfast stable and it was dirt cheap.
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Can I buy this model of Swappa and just use it right away? I don't know if I can tell if locked or not with any of Verizon devices.. it's my first time and I want to this phone soon on t-mobile as soon I cancel sprint.

SupremerosesXO said:
Can I buy this model of Swappa and just use it right away? I don't know if I can tell if locked or not with any of Verizon devices.. it's my first time and I want to this phone soon on t-mobile as soon I cancel sprint.
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Yes u can. Just bypass the activation screen with that "volume upvdown combo"(search for instructions) and u can use with verizon stock rom.
No sim unlock needed.
Flashing will make it easier to deal with stock bloatware.
Since verizon ware is pretty deep integrated.
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Cyko.Tech67 said:
This is a nice bit of information considering ill be switching to T-mobile next month... so your telling me i just pop a T-mo sim in this g2 and boom thats the end of it?
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Pretty much. I been using 3 generation verizon phones now on tmo.
Customer service is always puzzled.

Germanese said:
Yes u can. Just bypass the activation screen with that "volume upvdown combo" and u cam use with verizon stock rom.
No sim unlock needed.
Flashing will make it easier to deal with stock bloatware.
Since verizon ware is pretty deep integrated.
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Pretty much. I been using 3 generation verizon phones now on tmo.
Customer service is always puzzled.
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That's great! Thanks for the Info!

I'm excited now, I will get verizon G2.. I always wanted to G2 since it came out but I had Optimus G in April 2013.. their service sucks ass >.< I just wanted a better coverage since in Hampton Roads there's more Verizon and T-mobile LTE coverage. Will it work with LTE correct? I'm thinking if it doesn't have LTE I can just pop in straight talk sim? sorry I am a total noob lol

SupremerosesXO said:
I'm excited now, I will get verizon G2.. I always wanted to G2 since it came out but I had Optimus G in April 2013.. their service sucks ass >.< I just wanted a better coverage since in Hampton Roads there's more Verizon and T-mobile LTE coverage. Will it work with LTE correct? I'm thinking if it doesn't have LTE I can just pop in straight talk sim? sorry I am a total noob lol
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Flash the Stock T-Mobile Rom and Patch it with the Flex Patch.
I am getting stable LTE 4G. 3G where no LTE present.
I don't know if I was on LTE on Verizon rom, I couldn't tell the antenna indication apart LOL

Germanese said:
I had some odd connection display issues with the stock rom from verizon.
It seems to try to check for it cdma network. And the annoying ?Sim Simbol.
I just flashed the t-mobile stock rom with the flex patch.
Been using it as if its a tmobile phone.
Blazingfast stable and it was dirt cheap.
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Can you tell me if you are getting HSPA+ in non-refarmed areas? Thinking of picking one up but not sure if I'll get HSPA+ in the 1700 areas... Just not a lot of 1900 around here.
THANK YOU SO MUCH! Nobody wants to seem to answer this... I'd love it if you could.

KlausWillSeeYouNow said:
Can you tell me if you are getting HSPA+ in non-refarmed areas? Thinking of picking one up but not sure if I'll get HSPA+ in the 1700 areas... Just not a lot of 1900 around here.
THANK YOU SO MUCH! Nobody wants to seem to answer this... I'd love it if you could.
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I think It uses 1700 for the 4G ?
But when i venture towards Louisiana I loose stable 4G and i get 3G. (But then its like Ghost town of GSM towers there)
I reside in Houston Area at the moment where most parts of it are 4G/H+/LTE
The Version i want to get my hands on is the D805 it seems to match 2 antennas from T-Mobile if its the same mhz no idea.

Germanese said:
I think It uses 1700 for the 4G ?
But when i venture towards Louisiana I loose stable 4G and i get 3G. (But then its like Ghost town of GSM towers there)
I reside in Houston Area at the moment where most parts of it are 4G/H+/LTE
The Version i want to get my hands on is the D805 it seems to match 2 antennas from T-Mobile if its the same mhz no idea.
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Wow... Thanks so much. I really appreciate it.
The funny thing is even the specifications for the T-Mobile variant say nothing about 1700 either. They only talk about 1900. Yet, mine obviously works in non-refarmed areas.
You don't notice that you can't get HSPA+ less than anyone with a T-Mo device, right? All I want is for it to work just as well, not better.

KlausWillSeeYouNow said:
Wow... Thanks so much. I really appreciate it.
The funny thing is even the specifications for the T-Mobile variant say nothing about 1700 either. They only talk about 1900. Yet, mine obviously works in non-refarmed areas.
You don't notice that you can't get HSPA+ less than anyone with a T-Mo device, right? All I want is for it to work just as well, not better.
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It wouldn't work any worse than a Normal Tmobile phone from what I have noticed.
It does work better than a AT&T iPhone 4S variant used on Tmobile when it comes to Data.
It seems to be getting about the same performance in Data than the iPhone 5 T-Mobile Variant.
There are areas where the iPhone 5 Picks up 4G faster, there are areas where LG G2 is Faster in Download speed. (Basic Difference between phones)
But normal use I have no issues, I have not taken LG G2 on an international Trip yet.
I do use 4G Data Alot I jsut reached my 2gb mark for the month with 8 days to go.

My experience after 24 hours on TMobile in NYC

I received my Mi Mix (6Gb/256Gb) yesterday morning.
I had an update to CN Stable 8.0.11.0 waiting for me shortly after getting wifi setup and inserting my Project Fi Sim into the holder. After the update and a reboot I installed Google Play services directly from the Mi store and after a reboot installed and updated all my critical Gapps and services. I applied the battery and memory management de-optimizations recommended here in various threads and followed the five step process outlined in the Forbes article to make sure I'm getting notifications.
I then installed critical email, note taking, Todo and social media apps and changed out default apps to one's that I prefer (Google Play Music, Snap Camera, etc).
LTE Discovery shows I'm on Band 4, Speedtest (ping of 29 ms) 18.8 Mbps Download and 8.45 Mbps upload speeds.
Some thoughts:
I can't stress enough how different and futuristic this device feels and how much fun it is to use even for those of us who flip phones frequently. It's density and construction materials give it a very high quality feeling. I don't think I've felt such visceral excitement in how a smartphone feels in the hand since the first iPhone or Nexus phone. It definitely feels better in the hand than the SG7 Edge, Pixel and the iP7+
The screen is gorgeous! I can't stress this enough, It's luminance and color reproduction make you think it's Amoled.
This is the slipperiest device I've ever held. A case is mandatory. But it's really pleasant to hold with the included case.
The camera app is crap. Snap Camera gives you better results, but not having OIS here can lead to blurry photos even in good light.
The inline audio jack gives high quality sound reproduction for a smartphone. It's no competitor for an Astell & Kern player, but I had very nice soundstage, instrument separation and musicality with my Shure SE843's.
Bluetooth connectivity is excellent. 20-30 feet with a pair of Bragi Dash and over 40 feet with Bose QC35s before I had drop off or choppiness.
Excellent Wifi strength and connectivity. I'm guessing that the ceramic case is the hero here.
The Snapdragon 821 is very fast and capable, with the 6Gb of RAM 30+ apps and Chrome with 20 tabs without any lag.
Over the next couple of days I'll follow the process outlined but others to unlock, install CN Dev, install TWRP, and may flash EU Stable. It's still not clear to me which ROM is providing the best experience in the US so far from reading through the various threads here. any guidance or thoughts from those of you who have gone through the process is appreciated.
Happy to answer any questions anyone might have, but a lot of the water front has been covered by other members
Best
J

I'm getting very excited as I receive mine today. Is there any thread you could point me to so I make sure I'm all set and ready to go. I'm in Detroit and use Tmobs & VZW. Thanks
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I'm on TMO and my best advice is the change the APN to the fast-t-mobile.com APN. You can google for the settings.

RMXO said:
I'm on TMO and my best advice is the change the APN to the fast-t-mobile.com APN. You can google for the settings.
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Thanks!!

For some reason I cant add an APN. I am also having trouble getting action launcher to work as default. I have it set as default, but doesnt work when I hit the hone button
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skinnytoo2 said:
For some reason I cant add an APN. I am also having trouble getting action launcher to work as default. I have it set as default, but doesnt work when I hit the hone button
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How have you set up your phone? And what ROM are you on? I'm on CN Stable 8.0.11.0, bootloader locked, not yet rooted. I have no problem setting a new APN and switching to it.
Best
J

skinnytoo2 said:
For some reason I cant add an APN. I am also having trouble getting action launcher to work as default. I have it set as default, but doesnt work when I hit the hone button
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Try turning off the miui optimization setting in developer options

So I set up phone a little more with the optimizations and gapps. Data is working fine so I guess don't need the APN. Also got launcher to stick as default. Thanks
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skinnytoo2 said:
So I set up phone a little more with the optimizations and gapps. Data is working fine so I guess don't need the APN. Also got launcher to stick as default. Thanks
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Which carrier are you using?
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KOLIOSIS said:
Which carrier are you using?
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Verizon, gonna put in a tmobs SIM tomorrow when I get to the office. I'll see how the data speeds are.
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skinnytoo2 said:
Verizon, gonna put in a tmobs SIM tomorrow when I get to the office. I'll see how the data speeds are.
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I'd be curious to hear how you got yours working on Verizon.
Could you download LTE Discovery and tell me what band(s) show up when you have your VZW Sim in the Mi Mix?
I couldn't get my Sim to work with my Mi Mix
Best
J

skinnytoo2 said:
Verizon, gonna put in a tmobs SIM tomorrow when I get to the office. I'll see how the data speeds are.
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Didn't realize you could run Verizon on the mi. How was the data on it?

Aeskulapio said:
I'd be curious to hear how you got yours working on Verizon.
Could you download LTE Discovery and tell me what band(s) show up when you have your VZW Sim in the Mi Mix?
I couldn't get my Sim to work with my Mi Mix
Best
J
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All I did was put in the SIM and did a reboot on the device. It doesn't get 4g but it's solid 3g and 1x which is great for voice and SMS. I use Tmobs for data, I get 4g around 30-40 down and 12-17 up. This is the best of both worlds. I have unlimited data with Tmobs for $20 on my buddy's account. Plus, I'm not sold on VoLTE with VZW anyhow. Really the only good feature is being able to use data and voice together. With the Mix and dual SIMs I have that anyways.
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skinnytoo2 said:
All I did was put in the SIM and did a reboot on the device. It doesn't get 4g but it's solid 3g and 1x which is great for voice and SMS. I use Tmobs for data, I get 4g around 30-40 down and 12-17 up. This is the best of both worlds. I have unlimited data with Tmobs for $20 on my buddy's account. Plus, I'm not sold on VoLTE with VZW anyhow. Really the only good feature is being able to use data and voice together. With the Mix and dual SIMs I have that anyways.
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Great report thank you!
I'm guessing you had the VZW Sim in the first slot and the TMob Sim in the second? When I tried both Sims I was relegated to H+ (decrease of 25 Mbps D/12Mbps U) and no ability to dial out on VZW in NYC.

I'm in Detroit. Tmobs in slot 1 & VZW in slot 2. If you go into settings and the first one is the SIM card & mobile networks. You can choose how to utilize the SIMs.
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just got my phone today and can confirm i get LTE on Verizon with Straight Talk. have a ton to learn and figure out but i may not have to switch to the At&t sim now, we'll see how this goes.

Got a link to the "Forbes article "

jazz452 said:
Got a link to the "Forbes article "
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69809239&postcount=11

knives of ice said:
just got my phone today and can confirm i get LTE on Verizon with Straight Talk. have a ton to learn and figure out but i may not have to switch to the At&t sim now, we'll see how this goes.
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Brother, what bands are you using on Straighttalk?
I have failed to get my VZW Sim to work.
Best
J

Aeskulapio said:
Brother, what bands are you using on Straighttalk?
I have failed to get my VZW Sim to work.
Best
J
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In my house I lock into LTE band 4.
that being said, i just started using this phone as my daily phone yesterday night and today was the first i have driven around with it. i soon lost LTE and could not stream music. I may have to switch to the At&t straight talk sim since there are more LTE bands available