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i cant stand EXT4. every rom i tried with it just seemed way laggier than i ever experienced with RFS.
my issues have been my battery draining a lot quicker, mms sometimes wont send, takes forever to get a GPS lock, sound stutters (music and notifications), games lag... and other ones i cant think of at the moment,
ive tried Quantum, Bonsai, and Viper. they just seem much more buggy to me on EXT4. so im switching back to RFS.
anyone else have these issues?
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i cant stand EXT4. every rom i tried with it just seemed way laggier than i ever experienced with RFS.
my issues have been my battery draining a lot quicker, mms sometimes wont send, takes forever to get a GPS lock, sound stutters (music and notifications), games lag... and other ones i cant think of at the moment,
ive tried Quantum, Bonsai, and Viper. they just seem much more buggy to me on EXT4. so im switching back to RFS.
anyone else have these issues?
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noobnl told me that he and others were doing everything they could to use RFS only. If those guys don't want EXT4 then there's definitely something up...
Mine's more responsive than its ever been (except for screen rotate) running quantum 2.7 EXT4 and xjman's modified libdvm.so. personally, I think the whole "EXT4 will kill your phone" stuff is a kneejerk reaction to a non-issue. Those of us that are reflashing a few times a week via odin or updating roms through cwm are going to wear the NAND more than simply running EXT4. :shrug: personally, I'm going to continue to run EXT4 and I'm not going to loose a wink of sleep over it.
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Mine's more responsive than its ever been (except for screen rotate) running quantum 2.7 EXT4 and xjman's modified libdvm.so. personally, I think the whole "EXT4 will kill your phone" stuff is a kneejerk reaction to a non-issue. Those of us that are reflashing a few times a week via odin or updating roms through cwm are going to wear the NAND more than simply running EXT4. :shrug: personally, I'm going to continue to run EXT4 and I'm not going to loose a wink of sleep over it.
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I don't have any issues. Infact I've seen improvements
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ksmullins88 said:
i cant stand EXT4. every rom i tried with it just seemed way laggier than i ever experienced with RFS.
my issues have been my battery draining a lot quicker, mms sometimes wont send, takes forever to get a GPS lock, sound stutters (music and notifications), games lag... and other ones i cant think of at the moment,
ive tried Quantum, Bonsai, and Viper. they just seem much more buggy to me on EXT4. so im switching back to RFS.
anyone else have these issues?
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Maybe you should try odining a different "version" of dk28. I know dameon mentioned stuff about certain preparations of dk28 not working well.
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Its just way too much flashing, more steps and headache in EXT4 or maybe im just lazy. I like simple that's why i will stay with RFS.
ive gone back to eclair with syndicate rom and xtreme kernal. Froyo and / or EXT4 are not ready for primetime yet IMO
EXT4 lags for me as well so I'm in the process of going back to RFS as I type this. Actually starting over from DI18 and videoing it as well
I love Ext4. Made my phone more responsive along with the custom lib. I don't really see where it's that much more flashing once you install it you are done.
I've given ext4 a shot for about a week with a few different roms, and I'm not impressed at all. Seems to run worse.
Actually, I'm getting sick of DK28 in general. I think it's time to go back to 2.1.
No problems for me at all. Runs better if anything. Running Nebula ROM 1.06
I like EXT4 myself...I dont think we should go backwards,this is improvment plain and simple.
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I switched to EXT4 as soon as it came out and I have seen nothing but improvements. Have you tried the midNIGHT ROM? ptfdmedic's stuff runs as smooth as glass.
DK28 in general is not that great (it is unfinished afterall) and i've been back on 2.1 for some time now and the difference is like night and day. Battery actually lasts, phone is responsive, GPS performs much better, e.t.c.
Those eschewing the valour of EXT4 and DK28, kudos to you, but it is not great in my opinion having been through it all.
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noobnl told me that he and others were doing everything they could to use RFS only. If those guys don't want EXT4 then there's definitely something up...
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It's a war of egos, nothing more. This is demonstrated by the complete lack of definitive proof offered in the argument (and I've been present for a lot more detailed arguments in IRC about the subject between noobnl and Dameon than have been present on this forum).
One side of the argument consists almost solely of "Well then why doesn't the Nexus S use EXT4 for the system directory?" on one side and "EXT4 performs better and has not been proven to perform more writes."
I have a lot of respect for noobnl and his contributions to the community, but you can't make a statement that EXT4 is going to cause people's phones to fail and not back it up with any kind of real logic or proof. However, counter-arguments from some very well-informed individuals have been made citing plenty of evidence that EXT4 will not harm your phone.
And lastly, you risk your phone every time you flash a ROM... something could go wrong, and you could brick your phone. This is much more of a risk than accelerated NAND block corruption is. We're not going to stop flashing our phones though, are we?
Regarding the OP regarding EXT4 performance, mine runs flawlessly. I haven't seen the stuttering some people have been reporting, my battery performance seems about even with RFS if not perhaps slightly higher, and perhaps it's my imagination but the phone seems ever-so-slightly more responsive. I've also checked my bad block count a few times over the last week and a half and I have the same number I did the day after I switched to EXT4. I've got no reason to go back to RFS...
Maybe the performance difference for people is no_journal mod vs those without the mod. I'm running Nebula with ext4 and have noticed some sluggishness/lagginess that wasn't there on ACS Syndicate (2.1), but i can't compare to RFS DK28, because i went straight to ext4 when i went to DK28. Can folks comment on whether or not they are running ext4 w/ no_journal mod?
Yeaa, maybe its the no journaling that's causing the responsiveness. Idk. I might try it again in a few weeks. But my phone was just pissin me off by doing the stupid little things. Plus, there isn't many files that support edify yet.
Imo, I think we should finalize one version before upgrading to an entirely new file system. It just seems to be more problematic to me.
So do you guys that like ext4 use the no journals?
I had a lot of lag with Bonsai4all with EXT4, was bout to give up, but decided to re-do it all and go to Nebula 1.06 and thing screams. I would try another ROM if you are having issues with EXT4, but thats just me...
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I had a lot of lag with Bonsai4all with EXT4, was bout to give up, but decided to re-do it all and go to Nebula 1.06 and thing screams. I would try another ROM if you are having issues with EXT4, but thats just me...
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Well, I have... I tried three different ones. Bonsai, viper, and quantum... all three lagged like crazy
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And you are using the OTA, non-deoxed Dk28 to start from? I've heard that is key for EXT4.
I noticed going into the Nexus S Development Section, they were able to make optimizations/tweaks to the Ext4 system to increase performance (user supercurio). With Gingerbread now available for the G2/Z for a few weeks now (at least in Nightly Builds), Im curious if our developers will start tweaking/optimizing the Ext4 system to boost performance. A bit more performance never hurts.
I noticed that the Virtuous guys were looking into it for their next release. I did some light reading on the topic and can't seem to figure out what the big deal is...I know it's the new filesystem etc. But all the articles were saying it's main benefit was the possibility of huge filesystems which don't seem to apply to phones...unless somebody decided to start editing feature length HD video on their phone with some top secret 500 TB sdcard...
I'm not actually saying there isn't a point to having ext4 on phones, I'm more asking what the big deal is. Help out my ignorance!
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Hello,
I was just wondering why people think that EXT4 is faster than RFS? Both of them are similar in speed at first boot and installation of a ROM, but I tend to notice that EXT4 goes much slower over time, as opposed to RFS. To test this out, I borrowed my friends epic, and tried flashing the SFR 1.2 ROM on one Epic and the EC05 stock ROM on the other epic. They were both fast, and sometimes EXT4 was a tad bit faster at loading pages and apps, but over the course of a week, I found EXT4 to slow down and RFS was starting to run faster. I have installed the same amount of apps on both phones, and the Stock Epic even had the sprint bloat installed, I installed the same apps on both phones and about a week later, the RFS File system was much better off then the EXT4 File system. I'm saying this from personal experience. Does anybody else notice the same thing?
For some people who say that the variables are different:
Well, I can say that the stock rom is odexed, but all the other variables are the same, same amount of apps, I always deleted the texts and call logs, after I saw them or after I received a call. Even then, many people say that EXT4 is much much much faster than RFS, and odexed RFS vs deodexed SFR is not much of a variable difference because one is running stock RFS and one is running an "Stock" EXT4 (now if you know of an odexed EXT4 ROM, then I will gladly try it. But all the other variables were basically the same)
I have realized and done similar tests for quite awhile ever since rom building for the Samsung Moment. Which is why I've never touched an ext4 rom for the Epic. But I tend to simply run completely stock aside from deodexing for more internal space and adding crt and stock 1% battery mod
I've not had a single issue with my Epic this way and it has always ran fast, smooth, and completely stable down to the smallest details with excellent battery life
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Im not sure about RFS, but I can say ext4 would be surprising if it performed well. Afaik ext4 is designed for consistency more than perf. Perhaps ext4 could be configured for writeback journalling, the fastest it can go with journalling. Of course disabling the journal woulf be fastest of all. What is rfs? Pardon my ignorance, but I suppose it's not journalling?
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Lol use titanium backup on ext4 and rfs and you'll see the speed difference
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inimitableac said:
Lol use titanium backup on ext4 and rfs and you'll see the speed difference
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Yes but the slightest mistake with an untrained user how we've all been at one time or another can leave you with corrupted data. EXT4 is a good thing but it also shares it's amounts of bad as well.
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Yes but the slightest mistake with an untrained user how we've all been at one time or another can leave you with corrupted data. EXT4 is a good thing but it also shares it's amounts of bad as well.
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Yea your absolutely right no argument against that.
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Im not sure about RFS, but I can say ext4 would be surprising if it performed well. Afaik ext4 is designed for consistency more than perf. Perhaps ext4 could be configured for writeback journalling, the fastest it can go with journalling. Of course disabling the journal woulf be fastest of all. What is rfs? Pardon my ignorance, but I suppose it's not journalling?
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rfs is reiser fs. it is journaled as are most modern file systems.
edit: interesting fact: the guy that designed rfs murdered his wife.
i've gone back to RFS after a bunch of the EXT4 roms degraded for me over time. with journaling on. its possible it was my own fault but i honestly have no issues with the RFS roms right now except that they aren't as numerous as the EXT ones
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rfs is reiser fs. it is journaled as are most modern file systems.
edit: interesting fact: the guy that designed rfs murdered his wife.
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W.r.t Samsung phones, RFS is not Reiser FS. It is essentially a Samsung proprietary FST32 compatible FS with journaling.
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EDIT: More info here - http://www.samsung.com/global/busin...ducts/fusionmemory/Products_RFS_Brochure.html
I used ext2 for all filesystems on my moment and noticed improvements over rfs, I always wondered why samsung stuck with rfs I assumed it was for stability? This has me confuzzled
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rfs is reiser fs. it is journaled as are most modern file systems.
edit: interesting fact: the guy that designed rfs murdered his wife.
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Lmfao that is an interesting fact indeed
schnowdapowda said:
rfs is reiser fs. it is journaled as are most modern file systems.
edit: interesting fact: the guy that designed rfs murdered his wife.
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source?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Reiser
He did infact, but its not the RFS we use... we use ROBUST File system by samsung not ReiserFS by Hans Reiser
rfs is a system designed by samsung, now, EXT4 is a partition scheme for linux, we run using a linux kernel on samsung hardware on solid state memory, it really is anyone's preference. thats why dual-kernels are the ****.
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schnowdapowda said:
rfs is reiser fs. it is journaled as are most modern file systems.
edit: interesting fact: the guy that designed rfs murdered his wife.
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Sorry to go off topic what kind of animal in on your signature. That got to be the funniest thing I ever seen in my life!!!
Is this what I've been experiencing? I feel like every rom I've tried slows down for me after about a week. Not terribly... but it starts to hang in certain places when it never hung at all to begin with. I've normally stayed away from rfs so I know the bulk of the roms I've flashed were ext4. Even now I'm on ACS bamboozle. A week ago I thought this was teh best rom evar. But now I lag a bit here and there. Quite annoying actually. Also, I ALWAYS enable journaling.
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I've never paid much attention to the speed, but the file corruption problems I've had on EXT4 make me nervous.
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Hello,
I was just wondering why people think that EXT4 is faster than RFS? Both of them are similar in speed at first boot and installation of a ROM, but I tend to notice that EXT4 goes much slower over time, as opposed to RFS. To test this out, I borrowed my friends epic, and tried flashing the SFR 1.2 ROM on one Epic and the EC05 stock ROM on the other epic. They were both fast, and sometimes EXT4 was a tad bit faster at loading pages and apps, but over the course of a week, I found EXT4 to slow down and RFS was starting to run faster. I have installed the same amount of apps on both phones, and the Stock Epic even had the sprint bloat installed, I installed the same apps on both phones and about a week later, the RFS File system was much better off then the EXT4 File system. I'm saying this from personal experience. Does anybody else notice the same thing?
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You were not just comparing filesystems. The Stock ROM is Odexed, but SFR is Deodexed,
Some people have said that Odexed ROMS are faster than Deodexed ROMS, but they are more difficult to customize. I believe that is why all our customized ROMS are Deodexed.
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I used ext2 for all filesystems on my moment and noticed improvements over rfs, I always wondered why samsung stuck with rfs I assumed it was for stability?
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I have been running EXT2 & EXT4 since they came out. The speed difference has been major, IMO, both on my Moment running EXT2, and my Epic running EXT4.
On my Moment, I never even ran the journaling, though I did turn it back on for my Epic.
IMO, I will never use RFS again, unless I have no other choice. RFS is supposed to be the best for prevention of data loss, but when you turn on journaling with EXT4, you should retain the data protection offered with RFS.
I did have data loss due to frequent power loss (Extended battery for my Epic didnt fit perfectly, and loss connection until I fixed it), but that ended when I turned on journaling.
I have never ran a setup past a couple months, so I can't comment on the long term slowdown, but with just the change from RFS to EXT4 provides a performance increase of the level where I can see the difference in daily use of the phone.
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Hello,
I was just wondering why people think that EXT4 is faster than RFS? Both of them are similar in speed at first boot and installation of a ROM, but I tend to notice that EXT4 goes much slower over time, as opposed to RFS. To test this out, I borrowed my friends epic, and tried flashing the SFR 1.2 ROM on one Epic and the EC05 stock ROM on the other epic. They were both fast, and sometimes EXT4 was a tad bit faster at loading pages and apps, but over the course of a week, I found EXT4 to slow down and RFS was starting to run faster. I have installed the same amount of apps on both phones, and the Stock Epic even had the sprint bloat installed, I installed the same apps on both phones and about a week later, the RFS File system was much better off then the EXT4 File system. I'm saying this from personal experience. Does anybody else notice the same thing?
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So, you ran two completely different ROMs with completely different customizations (one, as noted above, was deodexed) and optimizations, and you're just assuming the file system is the reason you're seeing a difference between the two?
As well, did you install all the exact same apps on each, make all the same phone calls, send/receive the same number of text messages, and utilize them in identical manners?
Correlation does not equal causation. Just because one ROM is running one file system and the other another and they perform differently is no evidence on its own that the file system is the cause. Until you eliminate all other outside variables, we've learned absolutely nothing from your experiment. Your test is also subjective, and not blinded. So your personal biases easily slip through, and your assumption that RFS is faster will lead you to use confirmation bias to notice the elements that confirm your supposition and ignore the rest. You'll be more likely to jump to consider the things the RFS-based phone does faster as more important than the ones the EXT4 phone did faster, when the same feature might be in the other list if it was on the system you preferred. This isn't a dig on you, it's a human cognitive bias we all employ that proper scientific tests are designed to avoid. But your test doesn't.
Now I'm not saying EXT4 IS faster, I'm merely saying your test does nothing to tell us one way or the other. As far as I'm aware Google shifted officially to EXT4 as the standard for Gingerbread, and I assume this was done for good reason. That's not to say Samsung didn't have good reason for using RFS that trumped it. But EXT4 is at least a non-proprietary standard that's easier for us to work with, which is one reason some prefer it.
So I know the typical answer is always "just try them yourself" but I am looking for something specific.
I am looking for the fastest stable rom / kernel combination for just basic tasks. I don't need tons of modifications because this tablet is just being used for recipes in the kitchen and streaming music. But right now it is so slow I can barely take it. I am looking for something that is as fast as can be. Battery life is no issue because it is always docked.
Any ideas on where to start? Kernel settings? Etc?
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Well here comes the "just try them yourself" answer. Since you have a nexus mostly everything is stable. You can only decide which kernel ROM combo you are using at the end. For example 30fps is for some people totaly smooth for other people 30fps is totaly crap because they use 60. So I say it as always download some ROMS and kernels and simply try them out. In the worst case flash multiboot to gain dual boot and try a different system besides your main system. Also try EXT4 and ALL F2FS because in my case ALL F2FS was way more faster than EXT4 but again it could be for someone else totaly different.
Do a complete wipe of everything with fastboot erase and then fstrim.
I would install SlimKat, it works quite well for me. If it's still slow after all that something else is wrong, not just the kernel/ROM.
Hey everybody, here to try and convince anybody who hasn't to try switching to F2FS to improve your N6 experience. I'd been running darkrom for the past 8 months or so on ext4, and performance wise the phone worked but that was about it. The interface was jaggy and closing/opening apps and getting to the camera was consistently slow which is what I've experienced on most roms I've tried over the past few years. A couple days ago I decided to start from scratch and switch the file system over to f2fs. The process is relatively simple, grab a f2fs enabled TWRP version, clear all data on your phone (backup to a computer or something first if you have stuff you want to keep), use recovery to convert data and cache to f2fs, adb over your new f2fs compatible rom (darkrom/lineage are) and gapps and start it up.
After switching over I'm loving the N6 all over again. Opening and closing apps is consistently quick. No jank in the launcher or accessing the notification bar, no delays when hitting the power button to bring the screen back on. While the phone was doing initial installs of all my apps it was actually usable, previously on ext4 while apps installed it was almost impossible to use the phone it got so slow. On the latest darkrom the phone runs cool and battery life seems to be great at the moment.
Anyway, hope that helps some of you out! If you haven't tried the f2fs switch I would highly recommend it. I had done this in the past on my OG Nexus 7 which made it usable and is why I thought to try it again on my N6, glad I did!
I ran PureNexus for a while with no encryption using EXT4, then switched to F2FS after hearing all the hype.
I'm in the opposite camp to you @gambit07, I think it's all hype. My phone performs no better or worse with the same apps & data with F2FS vs EXT4. The only reason I still keep it F2FS now is because I can't be bothered wiping again.
Are you sure you weren't running encrypted when you had all these slowness issues? I certainly saw a massive improvement going from encrypted to non-encrypted (EXT4 both times).
Everyone else: By all means give it a go, but it's just a slightly different filesystem, some of the magical qualities attributed to it aren't possible.
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I ran PureNexus for a while with no encryption using EXT4, then switched to F2FS after hearing all the hype.
I'm in the opposite camp to you @gambit07, I think it's all hype. My phone performs no better or worse with the same apps & data with F2FS vs EXT4. The only reason I still keep it F2FS now is because I can't be bothered wiping again.
Are you sure you weren't running encrypted when you had all these slowness issues? I certainly saw a massive improvement going from encrypted to non-encrypted (EXT4 both times).
Everyone else: By all means give it a go, but it's just a slightly different filesystem, some of the magical qualities attributed to it aren't possible.
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Huh, that's unfortunate. No I removed encryption when I first got my N6 and have never used it. I've been running my N6 on ext4 roms for the last 3 years and I've never noticed this much of a difference in smoothness of the OS. I actually didn't think much of it either which is why it took me so long to try it, but what pushed me was remembering how much better my nexus 7 performed after I switched a few years back. It went from literally not usable due to how slow it was, to usable. Anyway I would encourage others to give it a shot. The only other thing I could see being the reason for the increased performance is maybe the partitions getting formatted. I doubt that would make a difference but that's the only other variable that's changed
Well, I would think that a format will certainly help by itself, though a wipe should be just as good - but how often do we wipe internal storage?
Another thing to remember is that speed drops significantly if the partition is almost full - try always to keep at least 20% free.
I haven't tried f2fs on this phone, and haven't noticed a difference on other phones. From what I read, you should get a marginal improvement on typical use cases.
Also consider that f2fs has only recently stabilized. A plain 3.10 kernel may still have a few bugs left, so it's better if the dev has backported fixes from newer versions. People running f2fs on unpatched 3.0 or 3.4 kernels have seen occasional data corruptions.
After reading this thread I have searched F2FS on Nexus 6 and read some XDA and Reddit posts, seems like it doesn't make any performance difference, I'm on S.i.X v1.6 (Oreo), its working fine, if anyone using F2FS on Oreo ROM, please share you experience.
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After switching over I'm loving the N6 all over again.
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Would you mind sharing your ROM, Kernel and setup details
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Would you mind sharing your ROM, Kernel and setup details
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Sure! I'm on darkrom 7.1.2, the 9/24 nightly, link below. Gapps are included in his post and it's the stock kernel which is a modified lineageos kernel. Lineage supports f2fs out of the box. Steps were as follows.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/rom-dark-rom-t3580215
-Backup current data to external drive
-Fastboot flash f2fs enabled TWRP
-Wipe all partitions in TWRP
-Format Data and Cache partitions as f2fs in recovery
-ADB sideload Rom/Gapps/Magisk/Whatever
-Reboot
Hope that helps! Still working great on my side
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Well, I would think that a format will certainly help by itself, though a wipe should be just as good - but how often do we wipe internal storage?
Another thing to remember is that speed drops significantly if the partition is almost full - try always to keep at least 20% free.
I haven't tried f2fs on this phone, and haven't noticed a difference on other phones. From what I read, you should get a marginal improvement on typical use cases.
Also consider that f2fs has only recently stabilized. A plain 3.10 kernel may still have a few bugs left, so it's better if the dev has backported fixes from newer versions. People running f2fs on unpatched 3.0 or 3.4 kernels have seen occasional data corruptions.
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Yeah, and the cells on internal storage degrade over time as well, but I am never consuming over 80% regardless. I had wiped my data partition a couple times prior to this in the last few years, and have wiped system/cache countless times, so I don't think that accounts for the change in my experience. The only reason I posted is because this is now my second device (after my Nexus 7) where I've switched and seen a noticeable positive improvement. I know for me it's a real change as my Nexus 7 went from actually unusable to being relatively usable after the switch. I had tried countless roms and full wipes on that device with no difference in latency prior. The Nexus 6 isn't as big a change but I can definitely feel the difference
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Sure! I'm on darkrom 7.1.2, the 9/24 nightly, link below. Gapps are included in his post and it's the stock kernel which is a modified lineageos kernel. Lineage supports f2fs out of the box.
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Oh, thanks, actually I tried it with latest stock and ElementalX but failed, it stuck on boot animation.
I'm on S.i.X v1.8 (Oreo 8.0), don't feel any performance issue but love to experiment so going to try this F2FS thing
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Oh, thanks, actually I tried it with latest stock and ElementalX but failed, it stuck on boot animation.
I'm on S.i.X v1.8 (Oreo 8.0), don't feel any performance issue but love to experiment so going to try this F2FS thing
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Cool, let me know how it works! Curious to see if anybody else feels the difference or if it's just me
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Oh, thanks, actually I tried it with latest stock and ElementalX but failed, it stuck on boot animation.
I'm on S.i.X v1.8 (Oreo 8.0), don't feel any performance issue but love to experiment so going to try this F2FS thing
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ElementalX does not support F2FS.
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Cool, let me know how it works! Curious to see if anybody else feels the difference or if it's just me
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Downloading 20171010 build, not sure how to check if there is any performance boost, because its already working perfect on current ROM I have recently switched to APFS (High Sierra) on my MacBook from HFS+, there was not any visible performance difference but of course it is new and better file system
Edit: It feel more responsive now, thanks Gambit
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Downloading 20171010 build, not sure how to check if there is any performance boost, because its already working perfect on current ROM I have recently switched to APFS (High Sierra) on my MacBook from HFS+, there was not any visible performance difference but of course it is new and better file system
Edit: It feel more responsive now, thanks Gambit
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Awesome, glad to hear it! Yeah I just feel like performance is more consistent. Less hang ups, apps open at a consistent speed. It just feels more fluid
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Awesome, glad to hear it! Yeah I just feel like performance is more consistent. Less hang ups, apps open at a consistent speed. It just feels more fluid
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For me, best part about DarkROM is Google Assistant on any screen, even when screen is off. I miss Oreo settings and notification / quick tiles, everything else is great.
I've used F2FS on various devices and while it does provide slight benefits in benchmarks, there's no real world benefits IMO.
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I've used F2FS on various devices and while it does provide slight benefits in benchmarks, there's no real world benefits IMO.
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Yeah I don't use benchmarks at all. It's real world use where I notice a difference
I'm back on S.i.X Oreo, honestly feel no difference in performance or smoothness, even it's little better on battery
I'd suggest that you're experiencing the placebo effect, or at the very least, benefits of clear flash memory. I've always found that my phone is faster after I completely format all the memory.
I've been using F2FS for a few months now. It's not a placebo effect. The phone is more fluid, less freezes, and stable performance even after downloading and using a hand full of apps
I have been using F2FS with the latest DU ROM and Sigma Kernel, clean flashed but I don't see any difference at all. In fact I had a couple of freezes and a reboot as well which never happened to me before using this combination. But maybe this in not F2FS related at all.