[Q] Screen broken, need to uninstall custom recovery and ROM - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin

Just had my phone screen crack completely and totally, making it impossible to see anything but black in the screen. I plan to exchange it for a refurbished version with my insurance plan, but I need to uninstall Safestrap, the custom recovery, the custom ROM and possibly Towelroot.
Will I be able to overwrite the custom recovery using Odin in the download mode? Is there anything I can do without having access to the screen?

noheroez said:
Just had my phone screen crack completely and totally, making it impossible to see anything but black in the screen. I plan to exchange it for a refurbished version with my insurance plan, but I need to uninstall Safestrap, the custom recovery, the custom ROM and possibly Towelroot.
Will I be able to overwrite the custom recovery using Odin in the download mode? Is there anything I can do without having access to the screen?
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Odin the nb1 tar file. See this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56453100
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Odin the nb1 tar file. See this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56453100
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I don't need to uninstall Safestrap through the app within the OS? Will using Odin and a stock rom remove the need for this?
I read somewhere someone was still getting the Safestrap screen during boot up even after they've removed the custom flash without using the app within the OS.

noheroez said:
I don't need to uninstall Safestrap through the app within the OS? Will using Odin and a stock rom remove the need for this?
I read somewhere someone was still getting the Safestrap screen during boot up even after they've removed the custom flash without using the app within the OS.
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Odin will return your device to like it was when it was new
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Odin will return your device to like it was when it was new
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I had a partially related question, do you know if the Nexus series has something similar to Odin where I can tinker with the ROM and recovery without using the screen in case something like this happens again with the Nexus 6?

noheroez said:
I had a partially related question, do you know if the Nexus series has something similar to Odin where I can tinker with the ROM and recovery without using the screen in case something like this happens again with the Nexus 6?
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Nexus devices have fastboot. Not quite the same as Odin but more versatile
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Nexus devices have fastboot. Not quite the same as Odin but more versatile
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Sweet, thanks dood, I got the recovery and ROM replaced using Odin, can't tell if the Safestrap screen still shows up or not, I'd say not because I don't have to press anything to proceed into the OS like I would normally.

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recovery failed multiple times

Hello xda community.
i just purchased a galaxy s4 from a friend he he updated it to kitkat 4.4.2. i rooted itbut im having an issue installing a custom recovery. i tried the cmd method, the twrp apps on the market but although it says succesfull when i try to reboot into recovery it goes onto download mode. Someone please help me. i know samsung has a security system for the boatloader and i dont care tripping the securty system because im not with at&t nor on contract.
please help me i want to flash cm11 so bad.
androidfine16 said:
Hello xda community.
i just purchased a galaxy s4 from a friend he he updated it to kitkat 4.4.2. i rooted itbut im having an issue installing a custom recovery. i tried the cmd method, the twrp apps on the market but although it says succesfull when i try to reboot into recovery it goes onto download mode. Someone please help me. i know samsung has a security system for the boatloader and i dont care tripping the securty system because im not with at&t nor on contract.
please help me i want to flash cm11 so bad.
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Try this one. It's what I use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2427125
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Try this one. It's what I use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2427125
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I've seen that but I heard/read if you mess up that's it for your phone. Plus toy never truly have a Susie stable recovery. Seems like a lot of risk
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androidfine16 said:
I've seen that but I heard/read if you mess up that's it for your phone. Plus toy never truly have a Susie stable recovery. Seems like a lot of risk
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I can't say I have ever heard of anyone messing up the installation process before. It's load the apk to your SD card, install it to your phone and then tapping the install button once you open it. That's it.
As long as your root method installs busybox and your SU app disables Knox, you should be fine.
androidfine16 said:
Hello xda community.
i just purchased a galaxy s4 from a friend he he updated it to kitkat 4.4.2. i rooted itbut im having an issue installing a custom recovery. i tried the cmd method, the twrp apps on the market but although it says succesfull when i try to reboot into recovery it goes onto download mode. Someone please help me. i know samsung has a security system for the boatloader and i dont care tripping the securty system because im not with at&t nor on contract.
please help me i want to flash cm11 so bad.
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Trying to load a custom recovery on a locked bootloader could mess up your phone. Safestrap was made for our phones. Read up a bit you'll see we can't do normal custom recoveries and we can't flash normal roms cause we're locked. Only thing we can do is root and safe strap. I'll suggest odin nb1 update to nc1 root. The reason I say odin to nb1 is because right now you don't have a recovery at all due to you trying to install cwm or twrp.
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Apoplectic1 said:
I can't say I have ever heard of anyone messing up the installation process before. It's load the apk to your SD card, install it to your phone and then tapping the install button once you open it. That's it.
As long as your root method installs busybox and your SU app disables Knox, you should be fine.
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So I'll be able to install cm 11. Without any complications?
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I don't have a current recovery. Your right about that . How do I fix it
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androidfine16 said:
So I'll be able to install cm 11. Without any complications?
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Do you have an AT&T S4? If so then no. It will not load if you try. Until someone figures how to crack the locked bootloader, we are stuck with ROMs that use stock Samsung (you'll also hear them referred to as TouchWiz or TW) kernels. I believe CM uses their own custom one.
I am able to use the Google Edition one because a user modified it to work on aTouchWiz kernel, and even then things like USB file transfer does not work.
I do not believe anyone has done the same for CM.
androidfine16 said:
I don't have a current recovery. Your right about that . How do I fix it
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You need to odin nb1 (flash back to stock) this will put your recovery back.
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Apoplectic1 said:
Do you have an AT&T S4? If so then no. It will not load if you try. Until someone figures how to crack the locked bootloader, we are stuck with ROMs that use stock Samsung (you'll also hear them referred to as TouchWiz or TW) kernels. I believe CM uses their own custom one.
I am able to use the Google Edition one because a user modified it to work on aTouchWiz kernel, and even then things like USB file transfer does not work.
I do not believe anyone has done the same for CM.
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Yes I have the at& t s4. And that sucks I was really looking forward to flashing cm 11s. I don't care for the knox being ticked off being that I'm on no contract. Do you think I can use Odin or something to revert back to 4.2 safely without bricking the device. I hate touch wiz. And the battery drains quickly plus the phone gets hot when used for a while
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drock212 said:
You need to odin nb1 (flash back to stock) this will put your recovery back.
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Won't this look the bootloader cause I read downgrades are practically unsafe on this device. If not than I'd much rather go back to 4.2 so I can load a custom recovery being that u don't mind tripping knox. So long that it doesn't Brick or render the phone use less
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androidfine16 said:
Won't this lock the bootloader cause I read downgrades are practically unsafe on this device. If not than I'd much rather go back to 4.2 so I can load a custom recovery being that u don't mind tripping knox. So long that it doesn't Brick or render the phone use less
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androidfine16 said:
Won't this look the bootloader cause I read downgrades are practically unsafe on this device. If not than I'd much rather go back to 4.2 so I can load a custom recovery being that u don't mind tripping knox. So long that it doesn't Brick or render the phone use less
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Odining back to NB1 will not trip Knox. Also, I believe downgrading to 4.2 will not touch your bootloader, if it were that easy we'd all be rocking CM.
You could run this ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2767026
Its technically not a TW ROM, but it has its quirks. It was never intended to work on locked bootloader phones, but it has been retrofitted on to them.
Wrote this if you would like a guide on how I got 4.4.4 version up and running, it's kind of tricky.
androidfine16 said:
Won't this look the bootloader cause I read downgrades are practically unsafe on this device. If not than I'd much rather go back to 4.2 so I can load a custom recovery being that u don't mind tripping knox. So long that it doesn't Brick or render the phone use less
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Nb1 and nc1 are the same. Nb1 is just a small update over nb1, there isn't even a tar file for nc1 because it's such a small update. You won't be able to odin back to anything prior to nb1 unfortunately without bricking. Now I do understand the hatred of touchwiz but once you're rooted you're able to delete a lot of the garbage bloatware put on by Samsung and AT&T. This makes the phone so much better along with super long battery life. I've been able to get 4.5 hours of on screen time and about 16 - 17 hours of off the plug time like this.
When deleting bloat you can easily Google and find lists of what people have deleted off their phones using titanium backup (amazing app, let's your freeze or delete what you don't want). Also one thing I found out which is dumb. Deleting Samsung hub breaks auto rotation (what one has to do with the other I'll never know) but you can download the file needed to fix that here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51260826
I've had my touchwized sgs4 for about 3 weeks now and can say I'm not as upset with it as I thought I would be. Let me know if you have any questions about certain things. I've found a lot of workarounds and little edits here and there to get my phone a lot closer to how I want it.
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Are there people working in unlocking our bootloader because this thing is really annoying .
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Ps: No one answered my question. If I don't care for tripping the bootloader being that I'm on no contract. Is their a way to trip the flash counter and get on a recovery? I don't care for Samsung security knox or their bootloader security.
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androidfine16 said:
Ps: No one answered my question. If I don't care for tripping the bootloader being that I'm on no contract. Is their a way to trip the flash counter and get on a recovery? I don't care for Samsung security knox or their bootloader security.
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Nope. Bootloader and knox are completely different. Knox will just give annoying messages once tripped. Bootloader without unlock we're pretty much dead in the water. There has been some talk about ways to possibly unlock the bootloader so it's definitely being worked on. I've also read that the black hat even (hackers convention) might have something promising. Also anything that is done on the s5 could very well apply to the s4. It's all just a matter of time
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drock212 said:
Nope. Bootloader and knox are completely different. Knox will just give annoying messages once tripped. Bootloader without unlock we're pretty much dead in the water. There has been some talk about ways to possibly unlock the bootloader so it's definitely being worked on. I've also read that the black hat even (hackers convention) might have something promising. Also anything that is done on the s5 could very well apply to the s4. It's all just a matter of time
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Sounds great that the s5 and s4 integrate . Also there's a bunch of stuff online which shows how to disable certain aspects of the bootloader using linux (Ubuntu) . Do you think that'll work. It's a huge risk.
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androidfine16 said:
Sounds great that the s5 and s4 integrate . Also there's a bunch of stuff online which shows how to disable certain aspects of the bootloader using linux (Ubuntu) . Do you think that'll work. It's a huge risk.
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If it hasn't been done to give us anything I wouldn't do it. Only thing we have right now is safestrap. Which is similar to a dual boot
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drock212 said:
If it hasn't been done to give us anything I wouldn't do it. Only thing we have right now is safestrap. Which is similar to a dual boot
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Similar to dual boot but can't load any rom you want on it
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Need Help to restore build.prop on i337 NC1 firmware

Well, this is my problem: Last day I was trying to delete carrier name from top left notifications bar, so I found a thread that shows how to do it, specifically modifying 3 lines of build.prop system file. After doing this my phone won't boot up anymore. It shows Samsung Galaxy S4 logo an then stays black.
My phone has stock firmware i337UCUFNC1, and rooted with towelroot.
Actually I am only able to get to stock recovery and download mode.
I've tried some options but getting no results since bootloader its locked I guess.
I made a backup of the original build.prop, but unfortunately I had no external sdcard at that moment, so the backup its on internal memory.
Any ideas where to get this solutions? Adb? Flashing bootloader?
There's always Odin. You're not going to be able to use adb with the stock recovery.
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jd1639 said:
There's always Odin. You're not going to be able to use adb with the stock recovery.
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Thanks for your answer.
Well, I bet I did'nt use the proper stock firmware via odin, it fails at begining. I've tried with MDB and NB1 stock but get fail after NAND writes start (Auth). Until now I Can't find NC1 stock to flash it.
Any other suggestion to bring my phone back?
j3ssipr said:
Any other suggestion to bring my phone back?
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Did you use the nb1 tar file from this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53758227
It's the only firmware that'll work
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Yes, actually I'm downloading that NB1 to test it.
jd1639 said:
Did you use the nb1 tar file from this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53758227
It's the only firmware that'll work
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Everything good now. My phone it's back with NB1 fw. Thanks a lot.
How yoy knew this one will work?
j3ssipr said:
Everything good now. My phone it's back with NB1 fw. Thanks a lot.
How yoy knew this one will work?
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Glad your got it working I knew because I've been around
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System Software Not authorized i337?

This is probably the worst thing that has happened but i rooted my gs4 and was trying to install a custom recovery but knowing my smart self i forgot to safestrap and like bricked my gs4. I am dealing with SECURE FAIL: KERNEL any suggestions??
R800x_user said:
This is probably the worst thing that has happened but i rooted my gs4 and was trying to install a custom recovery but knowing my smart self i forgot to safestrap and like bricked my gs4. I am dealing with SECURE FAIL: KERNEL any suggestions??
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If you see this while booting into stock recovery, that can be ignored as we don't use the stock recovery for anything other than ota.
If you see this during normal boot, you would have to Odin back to stock and start over.
Well I can't boot into recovery I get this all the time
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No, not recovery, ODIN mode. Volume down and power.
Even after Odin restoring I still get this screen
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Thanks for helping out, I have found a solution.
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R800x_user said:
Thanks for helping out, I have found a solution.
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What was it, in case others have similar problem--

[Q] Which bootloader do I have?

Is there any easy way to tell without being able to boot fully? There isn't anything immediately obvious on google. I'm trying to help out a friend, his phone doesn't get past the boot animation anymore and he doesn't know which version he has. I can boot into download/recovery modes but don't see anything that screams MF3, MK2 or any of the others.
Updates: I can get to sideload but don't know if I can install any Roms through sideload without a custom recovery. The recovery right now is stock 3e I think.
StevenInMichigan said:
Is there any easy way to tell without being able to boot fully? There isn't anything immediately obvious on google. I'm trying to help out a friend, his phone doesn't get past the boot animation anymore and he doesn't know which version he has. I can boot into download/recovery modes but don't see anything that screams MF3, MK2 or any of the others.
Updates: I can get to sideload but don't know if I can install any Roms through sideload without a custom recovery. The recovery right now is stock 3e I think.
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Can't do anything from there. If recovery doesn't say NB1 in the corner then it's something before that. Only other way is to just try and flash only part of each one through Odin.
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DeadlySin9 said:
Can't do anything from there. If recovery doesn't say NB1 in the corner then it's something before that. Only other way is to just try and flash only part of each one through Odin.
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OK well it isn't nb1 so that's good I guess. Which part should I be flashing in odin? I can brick it by flashing an older version through Odin than is currently on there, can't I?
StevenInMichigan said:
OK well it isn't nb1 so that's good I guess. Which part should I be flashing in odin? I can brick it by flashing an older version through Odin than is currently on there, can't I?
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no, you can't brick. Odin will just fail
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jd1639 said:
no, you can't brick. Odin will just fail
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Excellent to hear. Guess I'll just start with the oldest I can get and work my way newer.
StevenInMichigan said:
Excellent to hear. Guess I'll just start with the oldest I can get and work my way newer.
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Has your friend ever had a custom recovery on, twrp or cwm? Or flashed any custom roms?
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jd1639 said:
Has your friend ever had a custom recovery on, twrp or cwm? Or flashed any custom roms?
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He was rooted at one point and then unrooted. Never any custom roms/recoveries. The phone was working after he unrooted it but for some reason will no longer pass the boot animation.
He was on android 4.3 so does that only correspond to MK2? As far as I can tell it does.
StevenInMichigan said:
He was rooted at one point and then unrooted. Never any custom roms. The phone was working after he unrooted it but for some reason will no longer pass the boot animation.
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Do you know if he took any ota updates? My opinion is you should just flash the nb1 tar file in Odin. It's doesn't sound like he is still on mdl firmware.Which would be the only reason he'd not want to go to nb1
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jd1639 said:
Do you know if he took any ota updates? My opinion is you should just flash the nb1 tar file in Odin. It's doesn't sound like he is still on mdl firmware.Which would be the only reason he'd not want to go to nb1
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If my goal is to get CM or any other aosp based rom on the phone will nb1 be any more restrictive than MK2? I haven't found anything breaking the differences between MKx/Nxx down yet.
StevenInMichigan said:
If my goal is to get CM or any other aosp based rom on the phone will nb1 be any more restrictive than MK2? I haven't found anything breaking the differences between MKx/Nxx down yet.
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If he's not on mdl you're not going to get cm or any aosp rom. Nb1 is no more restrictive than mf3, or mk2. In any case you'll have to use safestrap and only touch wiz based roms.
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jd1639 said:
If he's not on mdl you're not going to get cm or any aosp rom. Nb1 is no more restrictive than mf3, or mk2. In any case you'll have to use safestrap and only touch wiz based roms.
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Is there no odin flashable mdl file? I found a link to a tmobile one but since it's not the same phone I'm not about to try and flash that without checking. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2258628 <- TMobile, not ATT but linked from ATT faq thread.
StevenInMichigan said:
Is there no odin flashable mdl file? I found a link to a tmobile one but since it's not the same phone I'm not about to try and flash that without checking. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2258628 <- TMobile, not ATT but linked from ATT faq thread.
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Go to sammobile.com
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Go to sammobile.com
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Thanks for all the help c:
StevenInMichigan said:
Thanks for all the help c:
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No problem
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Any custom rom brings black screen

Whenever I try to install a custom rom with Safestrap, it doesn't even get to the boot animation; it just goes to a black screen. The touch lights on the bottom of the phone are lit for like 5 seconds, then go out. What do I do?
48 views, no replies... anybody know a fix?
I don't know what the problem is. But what I'd do is flash the stock firmware in Odin again. Then root and reinstall safestrap and try again. But it would help to know what roms you tried to install. You can only install roms that specifically work with safestrap
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jd1639 said:
I don't know what the problem is. But what I'd do is flash the stock firmware in Odin again. Then root and reinstall safestrap and try again. But it would help to know what roms you tried to install. You can only install roms that specifically work with safestrap
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I still have the stock firmware. The roms I tried were two different Google Edition roms, Kangpop, and Hyperdrive.
OrbitGum22 said:
I still have the stock firmware. The roms I tried were two different Google Edition roms, Kangpop, and Hyperdrive.
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I don't think either one of those work with safestrap
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I don't think either one of those work with safestrap
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Could you maybe redirect me to some that do? Or what other recovery can I use?
OrbitGum22 said:
Could you maybe redirect me to some that do? Or what other recovery can I use?
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First you need to use safestrap as your recovery. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56453100
Then you can only flash touch wiz based roms. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53758227
All of this can be found in the general forum
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jd1639 said:
First you need to use safestrap as your recovery. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56453100
Then you can only flash touch wiz based roms. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53758227
All of this can be found in the general forum
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Even TW based roms give me a black screen... guess I'll have to stick with stock...
Unless anybody else has any ideas?

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