ART vs Dalvik: ART and performance loss ? - Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey there,
I've been using my S5 (G900F) since 3 months now, and I was using Dalvik as system runtime, and since ART was NEW-ish I didn't want to jump in yet ... until 3 weeks ago!
I tried ART runtime, the phone rebooted, done its stuff and for my surprise! the phone got slower and less responsive and the battery drained like hell!
I saw these problems:
Battery drain
Supper laggy apps! some of them break!
sometimes the phone freezes for a while (but I can see that the touch is working but no respond on many apps, even the lock screen!)
Private Mode wont work, and only works on Dalvik!
Slow performances, I didn't try benchmarking but I saw some important frame drops and slowliness on many games and apps!
Phone gets hotter than it should!
Sometimes I have to reboot it to get it to work!
My questions are:
Is it only me or it's common?
I have many apps installed on Dalvik, after ART they don't work (even n other phone it does work), why?
Why private mode is broken on ART?
Should I reset the device then ART-it then reinstall all my apps?
For info: my S5 is NOT rooted and still under warranty, I really don't want to root it now (cuz it will take me time cuz I'll be playing with it all the time) and I have the latest updates (for now ) and I got many apps broken after ART like Chrome and messaging apps and other tools!
Thanks

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Art mode goods and bads

When I got this beast phone I switched right away to art mode. Phone runs a bit better but then again after that there are downfalls too but obviously this is still beta where lollipop will run art mode only and will be stable.
Bad part is that with art some apps won't open up or work well. Force closing later on or what not.
Another bad part is that when you turn phone off and then black on it always does the Google apps back to art mode and takes a good 10-15 mins every boot up.
That's why I switched back to dalvik and now I have quick boot up and all else working better.
Hope this helped you all.
wadamean said:
When I got this beast phone I switched right away to art mode. Phone runs a bit better but then again after that there are downfalls too but obviously this is still beta where lollipop will run art mode only and will be stable.
Bad part is that with art some apps won't open up or work well. Force closing later on or what not.
Another bad part is that when you turn phone off and then black on it always does the Google apps back to art mode and takes a good 10-15 mins every boot up.
That's why I switched back to dalvik and now I have quick boot up and all else working better.
Hope this helped you all.
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What apps are you using that FC under ART? Almost every mainstream app works fine these days.... I havent had any issues personally.
rajuabju said:
What apps are you using that FC under ART? Almost every mainstream app works fine these days.... I havent had any issues personally.
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I too haven't had any issues just that several apps took a both to load up like Amazon and Facebook. What I hate is when turning phone back on their always has to be the process of the apps optimization for art
I've had at least three games FC under ART and some older apps I got as free apps from Amazon. The reboot thing is annoying as well, but the speed is great and it does seem to help battery life (that could just be usage variations by me though)
josephpalozzi said:
I've had at least three games FC under ART and some older apps I got as free apps from Amazon. The reboot thing is annoying as well, but the speed is great and it does seem to help battery life (that could just be usage variations by me though)
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Yeah that's right and well actually running on art gave me a wordier battery life weirdly. Yesterday in dalvik I was able to achieve 17hrs of battery life with 6 hours sot

Heavy lag

Hi guys,
Has anyone noticed heavy lag and freezing when using the phone. I don't have a lot of apps installed and i have disabled most apps that i don't use and the phone is still giving me issues.
Any advice is appreciated. [emoji4]
I switched from RAZR MAXX HD and this phone is a space rocket in comparison to my old Droid. Have you tried factory restore? Then if it lags - I would try to return it to Moto.
Check CPU utilization. Maybe some app hangs on. I've noticed that noozy (music player) lags like hell when album is over and player remains in notification bar.
emineh17 said:
Hi guys,
Has anyone noticed heavy lag and freezing when using the phone. I don't have a lot of apps installed and i have disabled most apps that i don't use and the phone is still giving me issues.
Any advice is appreciated. [emoji4]
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I have the same problem, I tried to removing as much as possible automatic start calling but often when I uncheck the receiver this puts me "failed" in Rom Toolbox, I have tried Xposed Auto Boot module, but I do not feel that it works.
But for me, I have a lot of app instaled and my UI is very modified (Nova Launcher, Gravity Box, various Widget), so I know why he lag, but I still find it overheating lot and that's what most do slow.
Hi, I am having same issue. My configs was same as you, @Trinytix, but I had uninstalled all of them because lag issues. And now I continue to have same lag issues. When I use the standard cam for five minutes it become freezy and lag and sometimes I lose some photos. All the time it is burning. Just stops to burn when I leave it without work about 30 minutes. I think the problem is the snapdragon 810 but in other foruns some say that the problems with this processor was fixed.
I've been having similar issues, I got really into theming (using nova prime) the last couple of months and at the end of January the phone started to really lag hard. A couple weeks ago I stopped being able to open any apps other than the phone and google's messenger. I tried to factory reset from settings and could not (device gets stuck un the power down sequence), so I went the recovery mode route. reinstalled a fraction of my apps, put back a much stripped down version of my theme, and things were mostly ok, if a little laggy. However, the phone insisted that there was no SD card (internal or external) despite there being a 64GB card, which would sometimes show up when viewed in settings, some apps (podcast addict) were able to access the internal memory, but others couldn't (cameras, sms, photos, music). Yesterday the keyboard ceased to launch for more than a split second at a time, and would not take any input (you would not believe how infuriating this is unless you've experienced it first hand). In an attempt to regain some functionality I started uninstalling everything that I don't consider vitally important (bus app, podcasts, messenger) couldn't get through more than 1 or 2 at a time because multiple windows would stack telling me processes like "motorola" "android" and "media" had stopped. I did succeed in stripping away all the automation apps and theming apps (tasker, nova, icon packs, etc). I can't even place a phone call on the first try.
Oh and to add insult to injury I have to darned green lines about 0.5cm wide now.
Looks like hw problem or system got corrupted. Try to re-flash whole system but if is hw...

Some Strange Issues in Videos

After using Galaxy S4 (I9500GT) for almost an year with lollipop, I recently shifted to Note 3 (SM-N9000). As S4 was a perfect companion performance wise, even in Power-Saver, I was expecting Note 3 be atleast the same if not better. However, I am facing a few issues mentioned below:
In Multiwindow mode, the video sometimes lag when I focus on other application. Then I need to restart the phone.
Sometimes while in fullscreen, with no heavy app in background (I play no Asphalt or Modern Warfare), my video starts lagging heavily.
Sometimes there is a slight Audio/Video sync issue.
I do not know what to do. Power-Saver turned off-on-off several times, no positive results.
The same never happened in my S4
NOTE:
I keep on changing ROMs, but I always clear everything and this happened on stock which I flashed through ODIN with "Erase NAND" enabled. So this is always a fresh install.
Please help
Also guide me on one thing. As I have used Samsung for years, I now know which apps to safely disable. On TouchWiz-Lolly, I disable almost 50 apps on my Note 3(like I used to do on my S4). So it is quite lag-free overall(except videos). Now I am getting a SoT of around 6.5-7.5 hours with 30-50% brightness. Disable every useless TouchWiz feature like sensors
I do not use location frequently, and keep switching between WiFi and 2G(Yes, 2G).
Is this battery performance decent, or do I need any more tweaks?
Thank You So Much For Reading
I use nova launcher, its way faster then stock samsuck.
Disable all animation, they add lag.
Video-Use MXplayer with hard acc ON, and same for bsplayer.
Regarding app , you mean unckeck from startup( like msconfig on PC) or disabled from ALL/APP?
From all/app disable only crappware like: yahoo new, bloomberg or something.
On startup app you need to unckeck them, with android tuner. Disable all games, and apps that do not need them in memory ram.
Even my tegra 2 asus sl101 tablet get some lag on video , but with hardware acc ON is quite ok.
My n9005 with lollipop is identical with wife n9005( 4.3 android) except one: lollipop start videos faster, in any video app.
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S8+ Intense Lag/Glithces after May Update (last update)

Hi there,
The S8+ (Exynos) was the smoothest phone I've ever had. It ran perfectly, with no lag/stutter whatsoever, it was butter smooth. That until the last update...(The May update with Bluetooth and SD card stability ; Android May security patch).
Now, the phone lags/stutters/drops frames in everything - it affects the UI animations, the scrolling in almost every app (even in settings), any game (even the least demanding game), browsing, the phone also has keyboard input lag. It also scores very low scores in benchmark apps (about half of what it should score). The phone also heats up for no reason, especially during charging (it was never heating up before the update).
What I've tried (with no effect):
- Disabling all features from Settings, down to the smallest details. Disabling all bloatware apps from settings (Samsung apps, Word, etc.).
- Cleaning Cache/RAM/Junk files with Device Maintenance, Clean Master and SD Maid (and uninstalling those apps afterwards)
- Manually cleaning cache from all apps (all 300+ of them, including system apps)
- Manually force stopping all apps (all 300+ of them)
- Uninstalling all User-installed apps
- Wipe Cache from Recovery Mode
- Manually stopping all running Services from Developer options
- Setting no backround services option in Developer options
- Disabling all safe-to-disable apps (including system ones) using BK disabler
- Several Restarts
- Complete factory reset (from Recovery Mode) and instaliing all apps from scratch. Then, doing all the things above.
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PS: Animations are not only lagging/stuttering, but they are also glitching in some way (hard to describe, but little artifacts appear when minimizing/maximizing apps).
The screen also developed slight burn in (visible on gray image) in the notification and navigation bar area, although I use it with less than 50% brightness and with AOD disabled
Nothing worked. The phone has very brief moments when the animation lag dissapears, but then it starts back. The phone is now working worse than it did with the Battery Saving Option activated before the update.
I am aware that probably most of you don't have this issue. If you know anything that could help, please tell me.
Should I take it to warranty ? ( I'm afraid that they will open it up and it will loose its water resistance)
Thanks.
There is a dedicated S8+ forum section:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+
M. Tomescu said:
Hi there,
The S8+ (Exynos) was the smoothest phone I've ever had. It ran perfectly, with no lag/stutter whatsoever, it was butter smooth. That until the last update...(The May update with Bluetooth and SD card stability ; Android May security patch).
Now, the phone lags/stutters/drops frames in everything - it affects the UI animations, the scrolling in almost every app (even in settings), any game (even the least demanding game), browsing, the phone also has keyboard input lag. It also scores very low scores in benchmark apps (about half of what it should score). The phone also heats up for no reason, especially during charging (it was never heating up before the update).
What I've tried (with no effect):
- Disabling all features from Settings, down to the smallest details. Disabling all bloatware apps from settings (Samsung apps, Word, etc.).
- Cleaning Cache/RAM/Junk files with Device Maintenance, Clean Master and SD Maid (and uninstalling those apps afterwards)
- Manually cleaning cache from all apps (all 300+ of them, including system apps)
- Manually force stopping all apps (all 300+ of them)
- Uninstalling all User-installed apps
- Wipe Cache from Recovery Mode
- Manually stopping all running Services from Developer options
- Setting no backround services option in Developer options
- Disabling all safe-to-disable apps (including system ones) using BK disabler
- Several Restarts
- Complete factory reset (from Recovery Mode) and instaliing all apps from scratch. Then, doing all the things above.
----
PS: Animations are not only lagging/stuttering, but they are also glitching in some way (hard to describe, but little artifacts appear when minimizing/maximizing apps).
The screen also developed slight burn in (visible on gray image) in the notification and navigation bar area, although I use it with less than 50% brightness and with AOD disabled
Nothing worked. The phone has very brief moments when the animation lag dissapears, but then it starts back. The phone is now working worse than it did with the Battery Saving Option activated before the update.
I am aware that probably most of you don't have this issue. If you know anything that could help, please tell me.
Should I take it to warranty ? ( I'm afraid that they will open it up and it will loose its water resistance)
Thanks.
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A lot of the things you've done are probably what killed your performance. Disabling an app that another app is dependent on can muck up the latter. Similarly, poorly written low quality apps can be resources drains and may not play well with others. My virgin S8+ is shockingly smooth and I could care less about dormant apps I don't use being active or disabled as long as my phone performs well. I'd suggest a hard reset from recovery, loading your apps of respectable quality, and leaving your phone alone and enjoying it rather than turning it in to a science project.
Same issue here, no app disabled or locked but my S8+ is very slow and lagful.
@ m.tomescu
You know, when you factory reset because of problems, first thing you do is checking if the problem is gone. Only then are you supposed to reinstall your apps one by one.
Is it already bad after factory reset? Then your phone needs a repair, which most likely be a new motherboard.
When performed by Samsung official repair center, your phone will still have the same water resistance.
For a quick test you can enable safe mode, that will exclude everything you've installed.
PS. No lag here on exynos and latest update.
Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-G955F met Tapatalk
Mine runs like a champ smooth and fast I personally don't like animation I disabled them. I have snap dragon virant I disabled like 25 bloatware with package disabler I have good battery and smooth experience I don't know why Urs is lagging.
I had similar issues on my S7 Edge, with updates destroying battery life. Still, I'd suggest doing a factory reset, installing your most needed apps first and just try using the phone for a week. No prodding, no monitoring etc, just use it and let the phone learn your routine, which data to cache etc and see how things are after.

Why Galaxy S5 gets slow gradually?

My Galaxy S5 was getting super slow. Often I had to wait 10 seconds or so that it reacts to my touches. I had the latest manufacturer rom installed.
I reinstalled Kitkat manufacturer rom and the device got as fast as original.
So my question is why the device got slow or how could measure what is causing these problems? I have noticed similar effect on other phones, when the same rom is installed for a long period of time.
Too much cache and datas. Try first of all wipe cache from recovery mode and do it once a week. If neither this will work, wipe data (factory restore) always from recovery mode and the phone comes responsive like new untill to much data and caches will slow it again. Don't install to many apps, even this slowers the phone. This happens even on KitKat.
You could also try to install an app called KernelTuner and see if the cpu is always on high load.
Is the battery draining fast or is the touch screen just unresponsive? But there are a lot of possibilities for this issue and if everything is falling apart you could switch to a custom Rom or buy a new phone.
I have the same problem with G900F which is SUPER SLOW after official Marshmallow 6.0.1 update. Stock Rom. It is the worst and slowest Android exprerince I've had so far. Is the solution installing custom Rom if there is any reliable and safe one?
Just install lineage os or debloated stock problem solved
There was/is an issue with the contacts db blowing up to gigantic size which had/has an impact on performance & stability.
My S5 was not affected, and i've been using 6.0. 1 for at least a year.
But today you can expect such behaviour on various occasions with a phone that has only 2GB of ram and a Snapdragon 801(which should still be competitive with the MediaTek SoCs in cheap phones, at least.).
E.g. my fav weather app WetterOnline becomes a resource hog sometimes on my S5 till the dreaded "app not responding" message, but not on my more powerful LG G6, and on other occasions the app runs super smooth again.
Something as basic and simple as a weather app should perform well on any device except the oldest or most basic ones.
My S5 became snappy after downgrading to Lollipop. Keep in mind it came with Marshmallow when I bought it brand new.

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