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Google might release Nexus Two next month

Damn so soon
Didnt google just announce though that there wasnt going to be a N2? - http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/google-says-no-nexus-two-nexus-one-is-last-of-the-line
Neowin has just learned from an inside source close to Google that they are hard at work on the successor of the Nexus One, dubbed the Nexus Two.
Although not too much information has been revealed about the Nexus Two, but the tipster has revealed Google is going to release it within the next month. With other rumors of Android 3.0 in the wild, running on what looks to be the Nexus One, which could actually be the first image of the Nexus Two, shows the device running a new firmware with a piece of paper covering the top of the phone.
Nexus One may not have sold a lot of units, around 135,000 units in the first three months, and was even dropped by Sprint due to poor sales and because its bigger competition, the HTC EVO 4G, was about to debut for release.
Google stopped shipping the Nexus One earlier this month, closing its online store so consumers couldn't purchase the phone directly from the company themselves.
According to our source, the Nexus Two is set to release next month, but no pricing, date or technical specs were released, but Google is secretly working on the Nexus Two. One thing is for sure, Google will need to make this release a good one if they want to compete with Apple's iPhone 4, Microsoft's Windows Phone 7, and the HTC EVO 4G.
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http://www.neowin.net/news/google-might-release-nexus-two-next-month

will be interesting to see if this is true?

this is all very confusing but also kind of f*****g sweet

I don't believe it...

I hope it's a tablet, 8" screen Media drive slot, USB port etc...

I am getting it if it is true but too bad it probably won't happen

According to CNET's Buzz Out Loud, Google announced it will not be producing any more devices. It's verified here:
http://technorati.com/technology/article/google-ceo-no-nexus-two-coming/
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LoL! 3.0 isn't even due 'til December! Those guys just saw the picture of a N1 with 3.0 and decided to make up a story.

Sounds like a great story...hopefully it will have a happy ending.

Probably stupidly referring to the G2 slide or whatever its called.
No screen/processor/OS upgrade worth making a Nexus Two right now in any case.

It's probably a tweaked nexus one to be sold as ADP3

xManMythLegend said:
Probably stupidly referring to the G2 slide or whatever its called.
No screen/processor/OS upgrade worth making a Nexus Two right now in any case.
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dont be so quick to discard technology that may not be known to the public, who would have thought of a 1ghz snapdragon before the nexus?

Blueman101 said:
dont be so quick to discard technology that may not be known to the public, who would have thought of a 1ghz snapdragon before the nexus?
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The same company that made the HD2?

irishrally said:
The same company that made the HD2?
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And the company that made Toshiba TG01.

uansari1 said:
I don't believe it...
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I don't either...But if Schmidt said the N1's purpose was to push the hardware platform, and now everyone is pretty much caught up? I wouldn't put it past Google to want to push it again.
Come on G, show 'em how it's done...Again!

There is no point in pushing it again, not now, and not in any near future. The current top Android devices sport the best HW available.
Looking for page hits, that's what this article is...

This information does not surprise me at all with the exception of Google making another Nexus. About 3.0 i am not surprised at all and I expect leaks to start happening in august.. screens and images of phones that might carry the new Software version. Considering Google plans to debut this update around OCT then at the very latest we should have seen quite a bit by SEPT..

This is one of the rumors that everybody could write.

Obviously, bull****.
There won't be a N2. Since N1 kicked off android development so successfully, if google is working on some hardware, it'll be a tablet or something similar. Something to expand android to other devices.

What if T-Mobile's HTC Emerald IS the NEXUS TWO?

SMS bug OTA coming in a few days

For those who don't follow @GalaxySsupport (official Samsung) on Twitter, they just tweeted the following:
"#NexusS owners! OTA update coming over the next few days. It will prevent an SMS from being sent to the wrong contact."
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My response was great, but when's the reboot during a call bug fix coming...

distortedloop said:
My response was great, but when's the reboot during a call bug fix coming...
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Not soon enough!
If I think that a call is likely to last a few minutes I pre-warn the caller that my phone might cut out. One of my contacts said that I ought to get an Android phone (he's apparently got a Desire) FFS!!!!!!!

Heres the news in written:
http://phandroid.com/2011/01/20/samsung-nexus-s-ota-coming-to-fix-sms-bug/

what puzzles me is that why is the samsung support releasing this news? aren't we getting all nexus ota's from google?

I'm confused why Samsung is the one announcing this.
Edit: lol seems I am not the only one

deeren said:
what puzzles me is that why is the samsung support releasing this news? aren't we getting all nexus ota's from google?
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It's still a Samsung product, and despite people who populate this forum thinking of it as a Google phone, there are surely plenty of consumers who have purchased the phone at Best Buys just because it's heavily promoted there (at least at all 3 of the Best Buys near me) and is a really neat looking phone.
Samsung gets the black eye for bugs in the minds of those customers, and so they have an interest in this, even though it comes from Google.
If you check out the other tweets from the account I quoted, they do say the update comes from Google, not them, so they don't have a change log to share.

Seems Google is really taking a "hands-off" approach to the Nexus line.
Such a shame.

JCopernicus said:
Seems Google is really taking a "hands-off" approach to the Nexus line.
Such a shame.
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Samsung makes an announcement, and suddenly it means Google is taking a "hands-off" approach?
I don't make the same connection quite so easily; but I'm an optimist.

distortedloop said:
Samsung makes an announcement, and suddenly it means Google is taking a "hands-off" approach?
I don't make the same connection quite so easily; but I'm an optimist.
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Well it appears they are letting samsung deal with customer service, as opposed to dealing with it in house (like the N1 initially). Although they did shift CS off to HTC sometime in may of last year.
Google is basically acting as a hands off broker at this point.
My assumption(and hope) though is that they are just using Samsung as a gateway for direct customer interaction, and not for actual software development. *crosses fingers*.

JCopernicus said:
My assumption(and hope) though is that they are just using Samsung as a gateway for direct customer interaction, and not for actual software development. *crosses fingers*.
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Google's never been good at customer service in that regard, with any product. Plus, unlike the Nexus One, Google never had anything to do with this phone's retail sales to the public.
If you read the rest of the twitter traffic on the @galaxySsupport account, there are numerous tweets that state the software is coming from Google, that Samsung doesn't even have change log knowledge, and that Google doesn't have to deal with carriers on this, and that Samsung isn't aware of what other fixes Google is working on.
Seems like Samsung's just the public voice in that light.

In semi-related news, the Vibrant will finally get 2.2. Roll outs start tomorrow. I think the most interesting thing to note in this report though is that Tmobile will be more strict about updating software.
Moving forward, T-Mobile will update all Android phones to new versions of the Android OS within 3-5 months after Google makes the new OS public. Smartphone users expecting frequent upgrades is “new to us”, Brodman said, “and we’re going to have to step up and change the way we do things.”
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/01/samsung-vibrant-froyo-update-coming-january-21st-tomorrow/
3-5 month is only a slight improvement, but does it change anybody's mind about the value of the Nexus line? Does it make not getting immediate updates slightly more tolerable?
What's also curious to me is, when exactly is the Nexus One going to get 2.3? The "coming weeks" has turned into a month now. Is this an indication for Nexus S owners at the end of 2011 or early 2012 when the next Nexus phone is released with the latest Android?

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In semi-related news, the Vibrant will finally get 2.2. Roll outs start tomorrow. I think the most interesting thing to note in this report though is that Tmobile will be more strict about updating software.
Moving forward, T-Mobile will update all Android phones to new versions of the Android OS within 3-5 months after Google makes the new OS public. Smartphone users expecting frequent upgrades is “new to us”, Brodman said, “and we’re going to have to step up and change the way we do things.”
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/01/samsung-vibrant-froyo-update-coming-january-21st-tomorrow/
3-5 month is only a slight improvement, but does it change anybody's mind about the value of the Nexus line? Does it make not getting immediate updates slightly more tolerable?
What's also curious to me is, when exactly is the Nexus One going to get 2.3? The "coming weeks" has turned into a month now. Is this an indication for Nexus S owners at the end of 2011 or early 2012 when the next Nexus phone is released with the latest Android?
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I don't think Tmobile's stance diminishes the value of the Nexus line at all and here is why: the point of the Nexus line has been to serve as a "developer phone." Its pure Android without bloat of any kind and that is why I love it. Any other phone on Tmo is going to have bloat and be laden with UIs and whatnot and some people like that. This just means that more people can get what they want with Android and stay up-to-date on software. I think its a great move on Tmo's part and I think it shows a lot of guts to hold manufacturers to that kind of a schedule. The true test will be to see how well it holds up in the real world.

kenvan19 said:
the point of the Nexus line has been to serve as a "developer phone."
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Show me a credible link from Google that says the Nexus S is a "developer phone". Please.

distortedloop said:
Show me a credible link from Google that says the Nexus S is a "developer phone". Please.
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I was stating an opinion? I didn't realize I had to quote sources for my opinions.

kenvan19 said:
I was stating an opinion? I didn't realize I had to quote sources for my opinions.
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No, you don't have to quote sources for opinion, but you seemed to be stating that "the point of the Nexus line has been to serve as a "developer phone." " was a fact to support your opinion. Since I thought you were stating it as a fact, I would like to have seen something that supports that.
We've discussed that in some other thread here as well.
Plenty of people claim the Nexus S, and the Nexus "line" are intended as developer phones and throw it around as justification for buggy software and to dismiss complaints about the phone.
There's nothing I've seen from Google that says the Nexus S is a "developer phone", and someone linked an official list of developer phones, and the NS wasn't on it, and the N1 wasn't even on it until AFTER they pulled it from the Google Phone Store for sale to the public.
Not attacking you at all, just looking for clarification.

distortedloop said:
No, you don't have to quote sources for opinion, but you seemed to be stating that "the point of the Nexus line has been to serve as a "developer phone." " was a fact to support your opinion. Since I thought you were stating it as a fact, I would like to have seen something that supports that.
We've discussed that in some other thread here as well.
Plenty of people claim the Nexus S, and the Nexus "line" are intended as developer phones and throw it around as justification for buggy software and to dismiss complaints about the phone.
There's nothing I've seen from Google that says the Nexus S is a "developer phone", and someone linked an official list of developer phones, and the NS wasn't on it, and the N1 wasn't even on it until AFTER they pulled it from the Google Phone Store for sale to the public.
Not attacking you at all, just looking for clarification.
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I'm sorry for the confusion then. All of my statements were conjecture and the reason I called it a "developer phone" and not a developer phone is that in spirit it seems to be something aimed more towards developers as this quote directly from the android developers blog imples:
The Nexus S, like the Nexus One before it, is designed to allow enthusiasts to install custom operating systems. Allowing your own boot image on a pure Nexus S is as simple as running fastboot oem unlock. It should be no surprise that modifying the operating system can give you root access to your phone. Hopefully that’s just the beginning of the changes you might make.
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The author of this article is an engineer on the Android Security team and he makes it quite clear that the point of the Nexus S and the Nexus One before it was to allow people to design software for their devices. When the term "developer phone" is thrown around generally, however, it usually means something other than how I use it; its a catch-all for, as you said, software bugs and any other OS issues which is not how I see a "developer phone". I see it as a phone that is designed to be hacked. And in that sense, it really is a "developer phone".

Excellent, and I agree!
Thanks.

distortedloop said:
Plenty of people claim the Nexus S, and the Nexus "line" are intended as developer phones and throw it around as justification for buggy software and to dismiss complaints about the phone.
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Quoted for the truth. This could not be more accurate.
I like my Nexus S, but I've been a huge critic of Gingerbread, and to a lesser extent, of the "pure" stock/vanilla Android experience. It could stand to be improved a lot and is sorely in need of bug fixes/updates. Having said that, I would never argue on for the side of OEM skins either. I'm just saying, vanilla Android has its own share of problems.
Side note: you know what's one thing that bothers me, purely for lack of intuitiveness? Sometimes when you open a field that requires typing, the keyboard doesn't show up. It requires you to tap the empty field for the keyboard to come up. Or other times, if the keyboard does show up, the cursor will be at the beginning of the word as oppose to at the end, or as oppose to having the entire word you want to replace/edit highlighted. These unnecessary "extra steps" don't hinder the phone useless, of course, but just a nuisance that shouldn't exist on a "smart" phone.
/end side note.

Isn't every Android phone a developer phone? I'm a developer and I own more than 6 of them just for compatibility.

Anderdroid said:
Isn't every Android phone a developer phone? I'm a developer and I own more than 6 of them just for compatibility.
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The main difference is how easy the nexus s is to make open to roms. Most other devices require exploits to unlock the nand and bootloader whereas the nexus requires a single adb command.
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Nexus One, Nexus S, Nexus X, Nexus Optimus, etc.

Does anyone thing this is the route that Google will takes? I mean, people complain about the build quality of the Nexus S being all plastic but, I mean it makes sense. Maybe google was like "We dont want to make a Nexus Two, lets make a Nexus with a different theme, different company" hence why the picked Samsung. Or maybe they just wanted something that would be cheap to mass produce and easy to sell. It would be cool to see a Nexus X a year from now, using the same build material as the Droid X, you know, that soft rubber paint stuff they use on their phones along with some physical buttons, I'm just saying, maybe Google is pimping out their Nexus to whoever can cough up enough dough.. just sayin' lol.

I would hope the nexus line is reserved for the best there is to offer on the market. When the n1 came out it had top tier stuff like the 1ghz snapdragon processor in it. Fast forward to the ns and you have the hummingbird processor and the samoled screen. Personally it doesn't get better than that at this point. The way I see it is I don't care who makes the phone as long as it has the top notch hardware available to go along with those immediate Google updates.
I'm a nexus s and I approve this message

fosdos4790 said:
The way I see it is I don't care who makes the phone as long as it has the top notch hardware available to go along with those immediate Google updates.
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I keep wondering about that, since the Nexus One update isn't so immediate, are the Nexus S updates NOT going to be immediate in the same way, when the Nexus (next) will be released? That would suck if Google did it again.

patrixl said:
I keep wondering about that, since the Nexus One update isn't so immediate, are the Nexus S updates NOT going to be immediate in the same way, when the Nexus (next) will be released? That would suck if Google did it again.
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This update-delay for a Nexus (in this case the Nexus One) will just be once: at the time another Nexus is released. After then, they will get the updates at the same time (more or less). Why do I think this? The Nexus S isn't even released yet in a lot of countries, and since it is the 'first device with Gingerbread', it would be strange if the Nexus One had Gingerbread 3 months before the Nexus S in most countries. Also, I think they released Gingerbread on the Nexus S, before it was ready for other devices. I hope I can explain this to you with my bad english: If you buy a Nexus the day it comes out, you don't get the latest software; you get the software before it is even out. The updates that will be released after that, will come to your Nexus at the time it is released, not before.
I hope you understand what I'm trying to say

Androyed said:
This update-delay for a Nexus (in this case the Nexus One) will just be once: at the time another Nexus is released. After then, they will get the updates at the same time (more or less). Why do I think this? The Nexus S isn't even released yet in a lot of countries, and since it is the 'first device with Gingerbread', it would be strange if the Nexus One had Gingerbread 3 months before the Nexus S in most countries. Also, I think they released Gingerbread on the Nexus S, before it was ready for other devices. I hope I can explain this to you with my bad english: If you buy a Nexus the day it comes out, you don't get the latest software; you get the software before it is even out. The updates that will be released after that, will come to your Nexus at the time it is released, not before.
I hope you understand what I'm trying to say
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I do. And I think it makes perfect sense

It was pretty clear to me that using "S" (presumably for Samsung) instead of "2" meant that Google was leaving the door open for other "Nexus" phones from other companies. I was more along the lines of a Nexus "M" (Motorola), etc, but the S could be for S as in Galaxy "S", in which case your "X" and others make more sense.
The question becomes what would the next Nexus phone from Samsung be, the Nexus S2...?
I think that Nexus will just mean it's a Google sanctioned phone, that runs pure Google Android (no add-ons like Motoblur or TouchWiz or Sense), and is sold UNLOCKED. Note that I did not say they will be a "developer" phone...

Thinking of a "Nexus A" ;-)

Some_One_Else said:
Thinking of a "Nexus A" ;-)
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ROFL!
You might just burn in hell for that one...

I think the next Nexus wont be a phone, it will be a tablet. It makes sense: Google is focusing on tablets now, with 3.0 and all. What I think that they will release another Nexus phone in 2 years, and next year there will be a Nexus Tab or something.

Androyed said:
I think the next Nexus wont be a phone, it will be a tablet. It makes sense: Google is focusing on tablets now, with 3.0 and all. What I think that they will release another Nexus phone in 2 years, and next year there will be a Nexus Tab or something.
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I think that would piss a lot of people off especially the guys on here that switch devices once every year. I can see them releasing a "nexus tab" but not without a new nexus phone to go along with it. But who knows, I'd say nobody on here ever thought they'd go with Samsung to make the next generation nexus. It wouldn't surprise me if they released a top secret tab with dual core when honeycomb is released. Anythings possible that's for sure lol.
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fosdos4790 said:
But who knows, I'd say nobody on here ever thought they'd go with Samsung to make the next generation nexus.
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I dunno about "nobody", I never thought they "wouldn't" either, but frankly I didn't think about it all. When Google said "no Nexus 2" I took them at face value and figured no Nexus from any manufacturer.

If the rumors pan out, I would personally love to see a "Nexus N" from Nokia (maintaining the N moniker from the Nseries devices). Having Nokia's top notch hardware and incredible camera optics coupled with Android would perhaps be the perfect device.

fosdos4790 said:
I think that would piss a lot of people off especially the guys on here that switch devices once every year. I can see them releasing a "nexus tab" but not without a new nexus phone to go along with it. But who knows, I'd say nobody on here ever thought they'd go with Samsung to make the next generation nexus. It wouldn't surprise me if they released a top secret tab with dual core when honeycomb is released. Anythings possible that's for sure lol.
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Nobody? I was drooling in excitement at the idea of a Samsung / Google developed Galaxy S / Nexus One combo.

Anderdroid said:
Nobody? I was drooling in excitement at the idea of a Samsung / Google developed Galaxy S / Nexus One combo.
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Some people are just anti-Samsung and have blinders on about them. They certainly have software update issues, but in my opinion the SAMOLED screens can't be beat by any other display out there, and the rest of the hardware on the SGS series of phones, except for the plastic case, is as good as or better than anything else available.
I also was very excited at an improved i9000-like phone with Google's blessing. If only I'd remembered how much I hate T-Mobile's service in Los Angeles...I'd have probably passed on the Nexus S.

Anderdroid said:
Nobody? I was drooling in excitement at the idea of a Samsung / Google developed Galaxy S / Nexus One combo.
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ok so maybe a little over exaggeration on my part but my point was who knows who itl be or if theyl change makers or even if theyl build a new one at all. this phone is the best available, it wasnt a knock at samsung in the least, i had a captivate before the ns and loved it.

distortedloop said:
ROFL!
You might just burn in hell for that one...
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Some_One_Else said:
Thinking of a "Nexus A" ;-)
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LOL
wouldn't that be a "Nexus i" ?

AllGamer said:
LOL
wouldn't that be a "Nexus i" ?
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The iNexus - This changes everything. To a different OS.

distortedloop said:
Some people are just anti-Samsung and have blinders on about them. They certainly have software update issues, but in my opinion the SAMOLED screens can't be beat by any other display out there, and the rest of the hardware on the SGS series of phones, except for the plastic case, is as good as or better than anything else available.
I also was very excited at an improved i9000-like phone with Google's blessing. If only I'd remembered how much I hate T-Mobile's service in Los Angeles...I'd have probably passed on the Nexus S.
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I defended Samsung for a long time, but I've had enough problems with Samsung to prefer never to buy their stuff again if I don't have to. Both me and my girlfriend are on our 3rd Nexus S's since launch and neither of us are crazy about the build materials. The cheap piano black plastic they use has been consistent with all of their phones I've used since the i8910 and what's said about delayed software updates is true across the board. It took forever to get updates for the i8910 and everyone knows about the Galaxy S updates. If it weren't for the SAMOLED and Google handling the updates, I wouldn't have bothered with the Nexus S at all.

Androyed said:
I think the next Nexus wont be a phone, it will be a tablet. It makes sense: Google is focusing on tablets now, with 3.0 and all. What I think that they will release another Nexus phone in 2 years, and next year there will be a Nexus Tab or something.
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The motorola xoom is essentially the nexus tablet. Software made by google, it's the first to be released with it (honeycomb), and it's the reference device the software has been made on. Considering history dictates the device running the newest software is an official google device, I'll be getting the xoom.

j.bruha said:
I defended Samsung for a long time, but I've had enough problems with Samsung to prefer never to buy their stuff again if I don't have to. Both me and my girlfriend are on our 3rd Nexus S's since launch and neither of us are crazy about the build materials. The cheap piano black plastic they use has been consistent with all of their phones I've used since the i8910 and what's said about delayed software updates is true across the board. It took forever to get updates for the i8910 and everyone knows about the Galaxy S updates. If it weren't for the SAMOLED and Google handling the updates, I wouldn't have bothered with the Nexus S at all.
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I have used cheap plastic phones before and nexus s certainly is not cheap - far from it. It feels as good as plastic can feel, I have never held a better plastic based phone. I don't understand peoples complaints with it. The only bad thing is it's a finger print magnet. But I use a case with all my phones so it's no biggy.

Kitkat 4.4 coming to the G Pad 8.3 and G2 - eventually.

So, I had started a thread here about the poor responses and feedback I received by phone and then in writing from LG about updates to their products, specifically the G Pad 8.3, but also the G2. I then decided to escalate it to the President's office which yielded the below response in relation to anticipated updates.
I figure since they are still not the best at communicating their intentions this post will at least serve to show people they do have plans to release 4.4 to the G Pad 8.3 and Kitkat at some point, which is great news especially for those who were on the fence due to the uncertainty of update support. Hopefully they do follow through.
EDIT - new update below re: timeframe. Q2.
Caleb Clem
March 13 2014, 11:45 AM
Hi,
I pinged our mobile HQ to inquire about your questions. KitKat is scheduled for the Gpad, but “2nd quarter 2014” is the closest I could get them to narrow down. I’ll set a reminder to follow up with them and attempt to get a more clear timetable as we enter 2nd quarter.
Thanks
Caleb M. Clem | Senior Manager | CIC
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From: Caleb Clem
Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 6:13 PM
Hi Sean,
As you pointed out, LG hasn’t been the fastest in providing updates in the past, and we’re trying hard to fix that. We appreciate you sharing your compliments regarding our product and your concern with us about post-purchase software support. I have registered your feedback for review internally by relevant teams and have escalated the matter to our headquarters. Since we’re making progress, I believe you’ll begin to see the results of these efforts.
The G Pad is expected to be updated to KitKat, but unfortunately it does not seem that it will be until 2014. Regarding the G2, it is coming but the final build will also have to be tested and vetted by our carriers so a precise timeline is hard to determine.
I know that this answer likely falls short the clear details & timelines you were looking for, but your feedback has been shared with the right teams to begin making improvements in this aspect of our post-purchase support.
Thanks again for your candid & constructive feedback,
Caleb M. Clem | Senior Manager | CIC
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Thanks for your effort. I really hope the "2014" doesn't equate to Q2 or Q3 like I have a feeling it will. This is basically LG's only tablet at the moment and it's WiFi only. What takes them so long?

mustbepbs said:
Thanks for your effort. I really hope the "2014" doesn't equate to Q2 or Q3 like I have a feeling it will. This is basically LG's only tablet at the moment and it's WiFi only. What takes them so long?
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Hopefully it will be Q1, or at least in line with other brands when they begin to launch it. I wasn't expecting miracles, but it'd at least be nice if they announce intentions such as this officially. I wouldn't expect the updates any faster than Samsung, Sony, HTC etc, so at least they have now told us they plan to do it. Now it's just a matter of them following through.
Hopefully if enough people inquire and push for it they will learn to become more vocal about their intentions. At the very least it'll generate more sales for them.

Sean09 said:
Hopefully it will be Q1, or at least in line with other brands when they begin to launch it. I wasn't expecting miracles, but it'd at least be nice if they announce intentions such as this officially. I wouldn't expect the updates any faster than Samsung, Sony, HTC etc, so at least they have now told us they plan to do it. Now it's just a matter of them following through.
Hopefully if enough people inquire and push for it they will learn to become more vocal about their intentions. At the very least it'll generate more sales for them.
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Well at least they're not like HTC and make false promises. I'd rather them be quiet about it than tell us a date they won't keep. HTC went from September to end of 2013 to Q1 2014 on my DROID DNA update.

Oh no. Last time when I heard this "next year update", the device didn't get any update at all. But it was ZTE, not LG. I trust LG. I like them. I like their hardware and software too. They might be a bit slower than the other's when it comes to updates, but they always update their devices.
But anyway, getting newer and newer updates (defacto Android) is cool and stuff, but actually I'm pretty satisfied with this 4.2.2 too. It's not that smooth as an iPad (I bet even the 5.0 Android won't be that smooth...), but at least it's stable, without major bugs and stuff.
The only thing I'm afraid of is if they won't announce the Nexus 8, making the G Pad dead.

mustbepbs said:
Thanks for your effort. I really hope the "2014" doesn't equate to Q2 or Q3 like I have a feeling it will. This is basically LG's only tablet at the moment and it's WiFi only. What takes them so long?
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I'm guessing their top priority is the G2 which is of course more complicated b/c of the network radios and different carriers to support. They'll probably finish the G2 first before they even bother with trying to port their Kit Kat-updated rom to the G Pad. Which is kind of stupid, b/c it would probably be easier to start with the G Pad and then move to the G2.

I hope they can keep their words and release a KitKat update for G2 in Q1 2014.
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I'll excpect Q2 2014 so im not disappointed lol.
LG Optimus G came out last October and didn't see an update until April, i'm going with that timeline

Good to hear it will be getting KitKat at some point, nice bonus
I bought this tablet for its features, even if it didn't get an update i wouldn't be fussed as it is a class device

Do any of you see the thin blue line that had been mentioned in another thread? It's putting me off getting this tablet when I had my heart set n it
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craigels said:
Do any of you see the thin blue line that had been mentioned in another thread? It's putting me off getting this tablet when I had my heart set n it
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I have the blue line I took my first back because of it and light bleed my 2nd one has the blue line as well. It really depends on the person some people can't live with it some can. I would not let it stop you from trying this tablet The G Pad is by far the best tablet I have had I love the size and weight the blue line on mine only shows up when watching a movie after about 20 minutes sometimes it shows up you only see it when there is black at the edge of the screen any other colors at the edge of the screen look normal. The line is one pixel thick very thin line. The way I use my tablet it is very rare I see the line to be honest I am not on my tablet for more then 30 minutes at a time unless I am ready on my Kindle app. If I am going to watch a movie I have a 60 inch HD TV for that. I recently was on a train and did watch a movie the line never bothered me it was there but my movie was wider aspect then the screen so I had black bars at the top and bottom of the screen my eyes never looked bast the movie to the top of the screen where the blue line is. You will have to decide for yourself if it bothers you or not.

Yes, looks like it's a "feature" of all the G Pads. But honestly, it's a really really thin line, I gues it's just a 1px. line

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Yes, looks like it's a "feature" of all the G Pads. But honestly, it's a really really thin line, I gues it's just a 1px. line
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Its not a feature on all G pads!! Mine has no blue line. People always have to start crap.

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Its not a feature on all G pads!! Mine has no blue line. People always have to start crap.
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Calm down, dude. Maybe not all, but most of them. Maybe your has it too, you just dont wanna see it, maybe thats why you are so nervous.

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Calm down, dude. Maybe not all, but most of them. Maybe your has it too, you just dont wanna see it, maybe thats why you are so nervous.
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Nervous (lol) now you write "Maybe not all, but most of them" then don't post "its a feature on all". Go on the thread about this, what 7 people see it some are asking what they should be looking for so obviously some do not have it. And again nervous, guns pointed at me make me nervous not tablets!!

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Yes, looks like it's a "feature" of all the G Pads. But honestly, it's a really really thin line, I gues it's just a 1px. line
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Not on mine. I can't make the line appear.
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I dont see any line on mine. Tablet is very nice with very good features. I ve a s4 and the tab performs like it. The only thing i found bad in this tab is battery life, to poor... 5 hours screen time with moderate use and 20 % brightness. To poor for a tablet...

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Nervous (lol) now you write "Maybe not all, but most of them" then don't post "its a feature on all". Go on the thread about this, what 7 people see it some are asking what they should be looking for so obviously some do not have it. And again nervous, guns pointed at me make me nervous not tablets!!
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I'm pretty sure that when he said "Yes, looks like it's a "feature" of all the G Pads", he was being sarcastic, hence "feature" was written with inverted commas. Maybe work on your people skills a little bit...

I have just returned my G2 (here in Denmark) with massive backlighting issues and and a dim auto light.
Question: wouldn't that be something that i.e. an upgrade to 4.4 could solve by setting/correcting the auto settings in the light sensor or?
About bleeding light, is there a poll where the percentage of units have been added up.. - I could find one on N7 2 .
I have doubts about buying a 2nd unit.. and would like to know have many have received a "perfect" unit - the return proces here is about 10 days..

i've not noticed any blue line anywhere. Where and when does it appear?

How will updates be? Like Nexus/Pixel line?

One of the strong points of the Nexus and Pixel line is that you can get frequent updates (https://developers.google.com/android/images). How will the updates look like from Essential? One time upgrade, and then abandon us? Or frequent ASOP updates with fixes?

Whatever they may say about it, we won't really know until the updates come or not. It's being said it's either very close to stock or stock so getting upgrades out should be easy enough in a practical sense.

I'm pretty sure Rubin said in his hour long interview witih Walt Mossberg that it would get regular month security updates, if not better.
The bigger concern is how long will they support the phone for? Just two or three years like Google (making the phone insecure and obsolete after that)? Or five years like Apple? Even more importantly, what if they just don't succeed. If the company folds after a year or two, there will certainly be no updates after that. That's a chance one takes with a new company.

The community will carry it for a while if they move enough of them. As to Rubin, the proof is in the pudding. We've been sold the regular updates thing before and never actually got them or had them stop short. Time will tell.

I don't see updates being a problem. It seems to pretty much be stock Android with a few added features for the cameras and their modules to be released.

Right, but the question is how long they will lag. Lots of manufacturers make claims about updates.
Have they made any statements?

I played with one yesterday and it is almost completely stock 7.1.1 except for the camera software and the little bits in the code that control the modules. I see Andy making sure this gets updated to Oreo by the time the new pixels drop. that is 2 months out. dont quote me though

This is what I wanted to know, since its basically stock. Will it get Oreo (Android 8.0) fairly soon?

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This is what I wanted to know, since its basically stock. Will it get Oreo (Android 8.0) fairly soon?
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Considering how Android Oreo is built I say there is a good chance of quickish updates. 8.0 keeps the make Android code separate from any customizations now. They leave the hooks open do to your own thing besides their code. I think this is why Andy went super stock with 7.1.1 to make it easier later on and they can do more customization leader with their software because it will be easier after Oreo.
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MKBHD and I were talking to one of their software engineers (who use to work for Google as well) at the event on Monday and he told us they were already working on Oreo. In MKBHD's unboxing and first impressions video he mentioned a few of the things that were talked about in that discussion like it being easier to quickly update because it's so close to stock etc.. Although, once they release their home device with Ambient OS I bet we see more customizations on the phone firmware to accommodate that

One thing I question, why 7.1.1 vs 7.1.2? .2 offered a few neat last bit of features before 8.0 so its interesting why almost all OEM's have stuck with 1.1 before possibly jumping to 8.0.

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One thing I question, why 7.1.1 vs 7.1.2? .2 offered a few neat last bit of features before 8.0 so its interesting why almost all OEM's have stuck with 1.1 before possibly jumping to 8.0.
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Unless I'm reading it wrong it looks like the 7.1.2 update was targeted for Nexus and Pixel devices. Most of the fixes fix issues specific to those devices so why would an OEM port an update that doesn't affect their device.
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Unless I'm reading it wrong it looks like the 7.1.2 update was targeted for Nexus and Pixel devices. Most of the fixes fix issues specific to those devices so why would an OEM port an update that doesn't affect their device.
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This may be true, but it did also bring thins like the long touch shortcut feature as well as the fingerprint sensor swipe feature that may work on other hardware that had the same sensor hardware.
It's not a big deal, and though we have 8.0 now, I might want to wait a bit for Google to release a update to that as well hearing what I am from early adopters that have 8.0 now on their Pixel's. New features and battery life improvements plagued with persistent notifications, worse BT, and other odds and bits that seem like rushed bugs.
Exactly what I would expect from Version X.0 for a major OS change so not surprising at all.

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I'm pretty sure Rubin said in his hour long interview witih Walt Mossberg that it would get regular month security updates, if not better.
The bigger concern is how long will they support the phone for? Just two or three years like Google (making the phone insecure and obsolete after that)? Or five years like Apple? Even more importantly, what if they just don't succeed. If the company folds after a year or two, there will certainly be no updates after that. That's a chance one takes with a new company.
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A very valid concern. Especially since these sorts of people and companies throw a bunch of money at stuff and if it doesnt look like it is going to get the giant return on the investment they hope within a year or so then they do shut it down and move on to their next big thing.
My other concern with this is if we will get full kernel source or not as well. I would assume yes, since Andy helped make the deal about Andsroid being so open and sources available, but you never know with phone OEMs. Even though this is basically stock ROM, I bet the kernel source will be needed so we can interface the best with the accessory pins and make use of the custom camera stuff.

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A very valid concern. Especially since these sorts of people and companies throw a bunch of money at stuff and if it doesnt look like it is going to get the giant return on the investment they hope within a year or so then they do shut it down and move on to their next big thing.
My other concern with this is if we will get full kernel source or not as well. I would assume yes, since Andy helped make the deal about Andsroid being so open and sources available, but you never know with phone OEMs. Even though this is basically stock ROM, I bet the kernel source will be needed so we can interface the best with the accessory pins and make use of the custom camera stuff.
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Also, even if they make the kernel source available, will the phone be popular with developers? It seems like the sort of phone that might. As you say, Rubin is very supportive of open source (even on the hardware for the modules). But on the other hand, it's an expensive and quirky phone. Even the Pixel (with its huge price jump and move away from the Nexus brand) took much longer to catch on with developers than previous Nexus phones had. I'm hoping the devs like it.