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Hi all,
I'm wondering if there's any alternative ways to put the Nexus 7 (or any Android device I guess) to sleep/wake it up. I'm thinking something along the lines of an app that forces the touch screen to stay active but turns the display off so you can use touch input to activate wake/sleep.
Might be a bit of a stupid question. The reason I ask is because my N7 is mounted in my car and the power button isn't easily accessible.
Cheers for any tips..
UnitedWeFall said:
Hi all,
I'm wondering if there's any alternative ways to put the Nexus 7 (or any Android device I guess) to sleep/wake it up. I'm thinking something along the lines of an app that forces the touch screen to stay active but turns the display off so you can use touch input to activate wake/sleep.
Might be a bit of a stupid question. The reason I ask is because my N7 is mounted in my car and the power button isn't easily accessible.
Cheers for any tips..
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Not sure if this helps but I have a case that I bought for my N7 and when I open it and close it the screen turns on and off.
Here it is http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...ASIN=B008D2POAS&linkCode=as2&tag=newyormus-20
MineralGray02K said:
Not sure if this helps but I have a case that I bought for my N7 and when I open it and close it the screen turns on and off.
Here it is http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...ASIN=B008D2POAS&linkCode=as2&tag=newyormus-20
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Thanks for that but nah, it's mounted in my car dash so a case won't fit..
But that give me an idea.. does sliding a magnet across a specific point on the screen turn it on/off? That's the idea with the smart cases right?
UnitedWeFall said:
Thanks for that but nah, it's mounted in my car dash so a case won't fit..
But that give me an idea.. does sliding a magnet across a specific point on the screen turn it on/off? That's the idea with the smart cases right?
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Yes,
The magnet is somewhere to the bottom left of the device (i would say to about a quarter from bottom up and on the black contour) . If you can add an sliding magnet (make sure is weak) then you can lock/unlock screen.
Nfc tags dude i wonder if they would work
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I know some kernels can enable touch wake. I imagine it can incorporated soon. On my Galaxy Nexus, there's an app I downloaded that allowed a specific screen swipe to wake the screen.
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wyattyoss said:
On my Galaxy Nexus, there's an app I downloaded that allowed a specific screen swipe to wake the screen.
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What was the app?
Sent from the third Galaxy on the left.
That would be awesome. Do you remember the name of the app?
Gesture Control?
UnitedWeFall said:
Hi all,
I'm wondering if there's any alternative ways to put the Nexus 7 (or any Android device I guess) to sleep/wake it up. I'm thinking something along the lines of an app that forces the touch screen to stay active but turns the display off so you can use touch input to activate wake/sleep.
Might be a bit of a stupid question. The reason I ask is because my N7 is mounted in my car and the power button isn't easily accessible.
Cheers for any tips..
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Hey man. I used to have an awesome app on my very first Android tab years ago. It would turn the screen completely black (via home screen or notification icon) without actually putting it to sleep. Because it wasn't really asleep, a double tab would turn the screen back on. I CANNOT FIND IT FOR THE LIFE OF ME! Anyway, after reading your question, I searched for an hour, because I could use something like this for my setup in my car.
So, I found something that turns the screen both on and off, and actually works on my N7. Search for Proximity Screen Off. I installed the free lite version, and it works. I found out the screen won't turn on though, unless you disable your lock screen. Play with the settings to your liking.
Oh, and since we don't have prox sensors, you can use your ambient light sensor. Good luck, lmk if it works for ya.
joelhon said:
What was the app?
Sent from the third Galaxy on the left.
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It's called PGM Nexus. I almost don't want to give up my Galaxy Nexus (but I sadly still plan to) just because of this one app alone...it is so godawful nice to be able to swipe, or simply double tap the screen to fire up the screen. Unfortunately this app apparently requires some deep voodoo to work as its kernel related, and applies strictly to the Galaxy Nexus. I know a bunch of people have already started bugging the developer to make a version for the Nexus 7, I'd suggest piling on. :fingers-crossed:
It's apps like these that make you realize how superior the Nexus devices are at getting really good customized software over other devices.
I do wish there were some other options for the Nexus 7, like using the front camera as a proximity sensor of sorts to detect a handwave, or simply shaking the tablet.
jaycustom said:
Hey man. I used to have an awesome app on my very first Android tab years ago. It would turn the screen completely black (via home screen or notification icon) without actually putting it to sleep. Because it wasn't really asleep, a double tab would turn the screen back on. I CANNOT FIND IT FOR THE LIFE OF ME! Anyway, after reading your question, I searched for an hour, because I could use something like this for my setup in my car.
So, I found something that turns the screen both on and off, and actually works on my N7. Search for Proximity Screen Off. I installed the free lite version, and it works. I found out the screen won't turn on though, unless you disable your lock screen. Play with the settings to your liking.
Oh, and since we don't have prox sensors, you can use your ambient light sensor. Good luck, lmk if it works for ya.
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Thanks for that! Appreciate it. I'll give it a try when I get home after work and report back.
jaycustom said:
Hey man. I used to have an awesome app on my very first Android tab years ago. It would turn the screen completely black (via home screen or notification icon) without actually putting it to sleep. Because it wasn't really asleep, a double tab would turn the screen back on. I CANNOT FIND IT FOR THE LIFE OF ME! Anyway, after reading your question, I searched for an hour, because I could use something like this for my setup in my car.
So, I found something that turns the screen both on and off, and actually works on my N7. Search for Proximity Screen Off. I installed the free lite version, and it works. I found out the screen won't turn on though, unless you disable your lock screen. Play with the settings to your liking.
Oh, and since we don't have prox sensors, you can use your ambient light sensor. Good luck, lmk if it works for ya.
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Could you please post the settings you are using? Specifically the light sensor settings. I am having trouble getting this to work properly. Thanks!
Screen Off
gtdRR said:
Could you please post the settings you are using? Specifically the light sensor settings. I am having trouble getting this to work properly. Thanks!
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Hello. I'm not sure if it helps you, but for turning off screen I use Nova Launcer (alternatively you could use Apex Launcher - as far as I remember, it has gestures in its free version) with Screen Off app by Katecca. I've set Nova Launcher to react to swiping up screen by executing Screen Off app. So I have to turn on screen by pressing button, but to turn off I just swipe up screen.
Best regards,
Artur
Added support for nexus 7 to ProximityScreenOffPro v6.0
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.itsme4ucz.screenoffpro
Since we already have a low power sensor chip which can detect nudge, do you think developers will be able to add low power DT2W functionality to this phone?
I feel google mad a major miss by not adding it.
What's the point of DT2W when you have a fingerprint scanner that you litterally just tap and it turns on and unlocks the phone
mgorman said:
What's the point of DT2W when you have a fingerprint scanner that you litterally just tap and it turns on and unlocks the phone
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I have an anecdotal scenario where double-tap would be useful. I prop up my Nexus 6P on a stand on my desk while I work, and when I hear the notification sound it would be nice to just double-tap my screen to see what it is. I don't really want to pick up the device for that. First world problems...but still.
I would really love a way to enable dt2w only when the phone is flat (like on a table) because it's so annoying when my skin somehow activates it through my jeans. I'm guessing this is why they did not include it.. pocket dialing and pocket photos should be a thing of the past but with dt2w it happened a lot.
On the Nexus 6, there was a hidden Double tap to wake feature that was disabled. I'll have to have a further look at the source when it becomes available.
If there isn't one hidden then dt2w can always be ported over from other phones.
It should be noted that dt2w is only useful when combined with software that prevents double tap to wake when the phone is in your pocket and low-power dt2w.
When it is sitting on my desk and i want to wake it up? Don't tell me nudge, cause its ridiculous to have to push my phone around
ohhdavid said:
I would really love a way to enable dt2w only when the phone is flat (like on a table) because it's so annoying when my skin somehow activates it through my jeans. I'm guessing this is why they did not include it.. pocket dialing and pocket photos should be a thing of the past but with dt2w it happened a lot.
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It can easily be avoided by combining with on body detection and or proximity sensor.
zephiK said:
On the Nexus 6, there was a hidden Double tap to wake feature that was disabled. I'll have to have a further look at the source when it becomes available.
If there isn't one hidden then dt2w can always be ported over from other phones.
It should be noted that dt2w is only useful when combined with software that prevents double tap to wake when the phone is in your pocket and low-power dt2w.
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Thats the big Q, is will be low power, in theory you already have the code for nudge.. so if that is not proprietary blob then we would have a look into the low power sensor array..
You know, its the feature where if you wave your hand in front of your phones proximity sensor the screen momentarily lights up so you can check notifications at a glance. It used to be a moto x only thing, but I know there is a form of it available for other phones since my cyanogen s3 is able to do it as well.
It's really the only major feature *outside of chop-for-flashlight gesture* that I would miss from the moto x.
Does the axon have a option to enable it or something like it?
No it does not. A lot of people use apps like Kinetic Screen or Dynamic Notifications, but they don't let the CPU sleep :S I miss that from my many Motos, too.
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Hello everyone, I just came from a Nexus 6P, and was wondering if "ok google" from screen off is a feature on the OnePlus 5. I have swore I had it when I first got the phone but now it doesn't seem to be working. I've looked around a little and there seems to be a lot of disagreement about whether it's possible or not. Does anyone want to test it and post whether it works for them or not? (or used to work)
jplafor1 said:
Hello everyone, I just came from a Nexus 6P, and was wondering if "ok google" from screen off is a feature on the OnePlus 5. I have swore I had it when I first got the phone but now it doesn't seem to be working. I've looked around a little and there seems to be a lot of disagreement about whether it's possible or not. Does anyone want to test it and post whether it works for them or not? (or used to work)
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I never used stock OOS, only xXx and Pure Fusion, and "ok google" doesn't work on either while phone is locked (which, to my understanding, is not the same thing as "screen off")
I have been missing this ever since I got this phone and moved away from my Moto x Pure. It's really aggravating there is no way to get this to function correctly, or at all, with the screen off. I don't get it.
jplafor1 said:
Hello everyone, I just came from a Nexus 6P, and was wondering if "ok google" from screen off is a feature on the OnePlus 5. I have swore I had it when I first got the phone but now it doesn't seem to be working. I've looked around a little and there seems to be a lot of disagreement about whether it's possible or not. Does anyone want to test it and post whether it works for them or not? (or used to work)
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FYI: This was answered in a thread on Google Assistant.
1. "OK Google" will NOT work from the lock screen even when "Trusted voice" is enabled and the screen is off.
2. "OK Google" will unlock the lock screen when "Trusted voice" is enabled AND the screen is on.
3. "OK Google" will react if the screen is off but the lock screen is not on.
I hope that helps.
From what I read its speculated that with OOS it was chosen to save battery by turning off "listening" when the lock screen is on and the screen is off. Personally I think that OOS should be "listening" under those conditions if your also charging or at least have that option as a settings toggle.
I've personally had to hack a way around this issue by using a couple of apps (Caffeine, Screen Off (no lock)) to get into a #3 (above) condition when I'm attached to the charger so my OP5 can double as a Google Home and have my screen off most of the time without automatically locking.
3DSammy said:
FYI: This was answered in a thread on Google Assistant.
1. "OK Google" will NOT work from the lock screen even when "Trusted voice" is enabled and the screen is off.
2. "OK Google" will unlock the lock screen when "Trusted voice" is enabled AND the screen is on.
3. "OK Google" will react if the screen is off but the lock screen is not on.
I hope that helps.
From what I read its speculated that with OOS it was chosen to save battery by turning off "listening" when the lock screen is on and the screen is off. Personally I think that OOS should be "listening" under those conditions if your also charging or at least have that option as a settings toggle.
I've personally had to hack a way around this issue by using a couple of apps Caffeine, Screen Off (no lock)to get into a #3 (above) condition when I'm attached to the charger so my OP5 can double as a Google Home and have my screen off most of the time without automatically locking.
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I understand that this feature has been cut off as a measure to optimize battery life but
This thread is not on xda just to discuss what OEMs have restricted us to, right?
Besides there are many of us who would prefer this feature over an hour or two of battery life
I've also been doing some research
I've tried those apps that keep your display "Always on" after you press the power button, but that option wasn't very robust:
One extra press of the power button would turn off the app and thus the screen
Ok Google detection works well if the device was locked recently, not working at all after a few hours
Associated with an hour less of battery life
But the app made checking time and notifications a bit less tedious
Basically the AOD feature from recent Samsung devices
Let me know of any workarounds that involve least number of third party apps
BTW, I use trusted voice, and it works well, friends tried a lot to get through but never could , helps with the unlocking part of the above feature
TL;DR: It is very much possible!
I was were you guys were some weeks ago and also thought that it would be nice to have true hands-free capabilities, so I searched for an app that could do this. The main issue with the "OK Google"-detection, as @3DSammy already stated, is that the screen has to be on in order for it to work (and trusted voice has to be enabled, obviously). The best workaround for this is an app that keeps your screen turned on without draining the battery too much. For this purpose I downloaded an app called "Always On AMOLED - BETA" (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tomer.alwayson&hl=en), which enables an always-on display, as the name suggests. The app itself works really well with few bugs and doesn't drain the battery too much, although it is noticeable. It will automatically start once you lock your device and is customizable to your liking. While it is running, you can use "OK Google" at any time when it's outside your pocket (and the always-on display is on), just make sure to disable aggressive doze and enable auto-start for the app to prevent it from getting choked off by the OS. Root access may also help. When pressing the power button the app will close and open your lockscreen as you would expect, and the fingerprint sensor does also work straight from the a-o display, which can't be said for every app out there. The sensor is a bit slower though...
Hope I could help!
It's possible to set up for when locked in Settings > Security > Smart Lock, but I'm not sure if you can do it when it's OFF.
Chaphasilor said:
TL;DR: It is very much possible!
I was were you guys were some weeks ago and also thought that it would be nice to have true hands-free capabilities, so I searched for an app that could do this. The main issue with the "OK Google"-detection, as @3DSammy already stated, is that the screen has to be on in order for it to work (and trusted voice has to be enabled, obviously). The best workaround for this is an app that keeps your screen turned on without draining the battery too much. For this purpose I downloaded an app called "Always On AMOLED - BETA" (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tomer.alwayson&hl=en), which enables an always-on display, as the name suggests. The app itself works really well with few bugs and doesn't drain the battery too much, although it is noticeable. It will automatically start once you lock your device and is customizable to your liking. While it is running, you can use "OK Google" at any time when it's outside your pocket (and the always-on display is on), just make sure to disable aggressive doze and enable auto-start for the app to prevent it from getting choked off by the OS. Root access may also help. When pressing the power button the app will close and open your lockscreen as you would expect, and the fingerprint sensor does also work straight from the a-o display, which can't be said for every app out there. The sensor is a bit slower though...
Hope I could help!
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Thank you, but my fingerprint doesnt work until I turn on my screen
yuval328 said:
Thank you, but my fingerprint doesnt work until I turn on my screen
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maybe try contacting the dev of the app for that? It's been some time since I used this setup myself
Maybe with Android 9?
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Maybe with Android 9?
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Reading the Elemental X thread, it seems like it won't happen without a big battery drain.
I have it working use Nova. Elemental. Double tap sleep and wake.
You an enable lift to wake as weel.
I found a generic double tap to sleep. Install this app, Pixel launcher mods. It allows one one to use system ui tuner, add a double tap to sleep widget zone, where the double tap puts it to sleep, and allows u to use the existing launcher with icon packs. The app is by quinns mighty apps and on xda labs
Oops, one failed, here it is.
techlogik said:
I have it working use Nova. Elemental. Double tap sleep and wake.
You an enable lift to wake as weel.
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Yep, Nova works like a champ!
Been using it for years
techlogik said:
I have it working use Nova. Elemental. Double tap sleep and wake.
You an enable lift to wake as weel.
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I can get Nova to perform double tap to sleep. But there is nowhere I can find that Nova can be customized to do double tap to wake.
EX Kernel allows for sweep to sleep but again no sweep to wake or double tap to wake.
It's not as big of a deal on the Essential Phone given that the fingerprint sensor on the back effectively serves as a 'tap-to-wake' sensor. Just put your finger on it and it wakes up the screen and logs you in.
Double tap to wake requires power to the touch screen. This would require the screen to receive power which means it would be on. This makes sense on an LED screen since pure black on an LED screen means the pixels are off. On an LCD screen such as this phone has, you'd have a glowing, illuminated, black screen and battery drain since the display would have power going to all of the pixels.
jawz101 said:
Double tap to wake requires power to the touch screen. This would require the screen to receive power which means it would be on. This makes sense on an LED screen since pure black on an LED screen means the pixels are off. On an LCD screen such as this phone has, you'd have a glowing, illuminated, black screen and battery drain since the display would have power going to all of the pixels.
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Yeah good point, I had that thought too briefly, till I realized LG has been doing it for YEARS and still does it this day (I think) on MOSTLY its LCD flagships. I think my V30 was POLED, but outside of that all of the other ones were LCDs. Wondering how they did it...
jawz101 said:
Double tap to wake requires power to the touch screen. This would require the screen to receive power which means it would be on. This makes sense on an LED screen since pure black on an LED screen means the pixels are off. On an LCD screen such as this phone has, you'd have a glowing, illuminated, black screen and battery drain since the display would have power going to all of the pixels.
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that's not true only the digitizer needs power not the screen
the screen is actually 3 parts
the lcd/led
the digitizer
and the top glass
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Yeah good point, I had that thought too briefly, till I realized LG has been doing it for YEARS and still does it this day (I think) on MOSTLY its LCD flagships. I think my V30 was POLED, but outside of that all of the other ones were LCDs. Wondering how they did it...
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like I said above the type of screen makes no difference it's the digitizer that detects the touch