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Droid X vs HTC Incredible Camera?

Hey guys, so i have a unique opportunity that ive been given, i could if i want trade in my incredible for a Droid X, because my friend has a 2 year upgrade available and he really wants an incredible, so he told me he was fine with buying a Droid X with the upgrade and then me and him just swap phones
I know that in general, the phones are very close performers, however im just looking at one specific thing here and that is the Camera that both utilize... HTCs is 8 megapixels and Motorolas is also 8 Megapixels... both are also capable of taking 720p videos so on paper they would seem to be idential, however we know thats not the case
Alot of users have reported that the HTC Incredible / Evo Camera while taking 720p video is rather mediocre and sub-par to what youd expect, and that it also suffers from a low FPS video capture using that resolution... So i was wondering if the Motorola solution is the same way or does that 8MP Camera that they utilize in the Droid X a superior one to that of the DINC?

Honestly, the camera and video performance has been a phenomenal experience on the incredible. Your dealing with a phone here and the differences between the two (if there are) will be quite slim. Sure if you put the two side by side, you may see a difference however it's not going to be replacing your point-and-shoot camera or DSLR.
If you're stuck deciding between the two I'd highly suggest you take a look at what's going to feel better for yourself whether it be the size/form factor or the software that your dealing with/ whether or not you want to be able to have the ability to switch roms.
If you absolutely don't care and the decision maker comes down to the camera, honestly, either one will be a fantastic choice -- I just suggest rethinking where you are on the fence about the phones.

Its not just a camera... however the Droid X's size does not bother me at all, ive been tinkering with them in the verizon stores for awile now and havent been dissapointed..
FYI i went into a Verizon store today and went to one of the Droid X's up on display and installed Quadrant Benchmark on it from the market and right off the display shelf it did a 1200 quadrant score... and thats running a 2.1 rom fully stock with no modification.... 1200s is what we incredible owners are hitting running FROYO and custom roms, that won me over... the Droid X is just a better performer

good luck with the locked bootloader

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good luck with the locked bootloader
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Thats the one downside that im fully aware of... coming from a rooted and rom'd incredible

Honestly, benchmarks don't mean ****. I've used both and I can tell you, without a doubt, the incredible is faster, smoother, and all around nicer to look at.

On paper the X seems like it should perform MUCH better than the Incredible (sorry... OMAP vs. Qualcomm ANYTHING... OMAP wins), but yeah in having an incredible and spending a decent amount of time with the X, the X seemed noticeably slower in a few things. For one, just swiping left and right between home screens, the Inc is butter smooth, the X animates far more choppy... even my wife noticed this, and she is not the kind of person who cares about that kind of stuff. Also, opening apps, often the Inc would open faster, usually by less than a second, but still. I also had a hard time getting a steady shot with the camera.
of course, the bigger screen is very nice, and dedicated camera button should be f'ing mandatory these days (HTC!!). For gaming, the X is going to stomp the Inc (though, they both bow down to the Galaxy S).
It's all personal preference, but having tried the X, I don't regret having the Inc.

Yeah the incredible is smoother. I ran bench mark on my incredible and it ranked higher than the x. So i guess bench mark can be inconsistent
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You are either an HTC person or not.
I had both and had to dump the X because exchange support is loaded with bugs and notifications are broken.
HTC licenses active sync so exchange support is flawless.
I also found the white level control on the HTC to be far superior.
The Motorola is always shooting with a yellow cast to the pictures.
Low light the HTC has better color but the noise reduction is out of control.
I also think the HTC camera is faster.
Motorola has the edge on the gallery scrolling, its much faster. HTC is like slow motion compared.
HTC is more of a software company than Motorola and it shows.
You have to load at least 5 apps on the Motorola to get most of the functionality you do with Sense, including a launcher which completely defeats the point of Moto Blur.
Little things like icon notifications for gmail and exchange are built into sense.
You have to download a GMAIL notifier app for the Motorola and you dont have a way to get icon notifications on exchange at all on the Motorola.
Little nuances add up big time which is why despite the small size the Incredible is a better overall phone right now.

X had dedicated GPU.

I love the formfactor for the DINC, but if I had a choice to switch... I would just switch with his old crappy phone for now and give him the dINC, then wait for the verizon galaxy S to drop and upgrade to that.

Moto X vs other high end devices.

After seeing how well the Moto X performs, I have to wonder is there any real point in constantly making phones that use faster chips such as the snapdragon 600 or 800 when Motorola proves that they can do the same on a dual core S4? Or has the spec race always been pointless and only caters to the desire of the consumer to have the "best." I own both the Moto X and a Google edition HTC One, and despite how much "higher end" the One is, I feel like the Moto X is the better device. Will other manufacturers start doing what Motorola is doing with the deep software-hardware integration, or will they continue to rely on the most cutting edge hardware?
Current Devices: Moto X, HTC One Google Edition, Oppo Find 5

All Moto did was out together an almost bare bones stock phone and focus on what really matters and has high impact for most people. Granted, the motoX may not be for everyone, depending on whether they prefer a larger screen or perform heavier tasks that may be better handled with a quadcore cpu. But for the majority, motoX is about as clean as it gets to being pure stock Android without bloaty oem launchers or UI tweaks. It comes with just a few custom moto apps that people will actually use more than once compared to the gimmicky features that come. Things like gif creators or nfc bump file transfers are of no use to me. But something like active notifications and moto assist is something going I and most others can use everyday.
So to answer your question, spec race isn't over yet, but I think there will be rush from Samsung and HTC to try to close the gap and duplicate the moto apps. There definitely will be an increased emphasis on user experience from here on out as consumers start to realize that cutting edge specs doesn't always translate to best experience.

Psilocin said:
All Moto did was out together an almost bare bones stock phone and focus on what really matters and has high impact for most people. Granted, the motoX may not be for everyone, depending on whether they prefer a larger screen or perform heavier tasks that may be better handled with a quadcore cpu. But for the majority, motoX is about as clean as it gets to being pure stock Android without bloaty oem launchers or UI tweaks. It comes with just a few custom moto apps that people will actually use more than once compared to the gimmicky features that come. Things like gif creators or nfc bump file transfers are of no use to me. But something like active notifications and moto assist is something going I and most others can use everyday.
So to answer your question, spec race isn't over yet, but I think there will be rush from Samsung and HTC to try to close the gap and duplicate the moto apps. There definitely will be an increased emphasis on user experience from here on out as consumers start to realize that cutting edge specs doesn't always translate to best experience.
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Truth be told the Moto X isn’t stock, it just has the stock UI on top of a relatively standard Motorola software build, but it does have a heck of a lot less of the operator preload crapware that normally shows up on Android phones sold with a subsidy these days.
http://anandtech.com/show/7235/moto-x-review/3

Strike9172 said:
After seeing how well the Moto X performs, I have to wonder is there any real point in constantly making phones that use faster chips such as the snapdragon 600 or 800 when Motorola proves that they can do the same on a dual core S4? Or has the spec race always been pointless and only caters to the desire of the consumer to have the "best." I own both the Moto X and a Google edition HTC One, and despite how much "higher end" the One is, I feel like the Moto X is the better device. Will other manufacturers start doing what Motorola is doing with the deep software-hardware integration, or will they continue to rely on the most cutting edge hardware?
Current Devices: Moto X, HTC One Google Edition, Oppo Find 5
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this is the same conversation that happened with computers and clock speed/cores a few years ago. more cores and higher clock speeds come to a point of diminishing returns and optimization is necessary to grow performance at that point.

This won't stop the spec race.
When OEMs realize price is what will win the "war", not specs, we'll finally get somewhere.

Maybe its just me, but I dont get what people are doing with their phones that they need such high spec'ed devices. When I look at a device I look for snapiness, response, and overall usability. Most phones achieve this by optimizing their custom software on the device. Its not about the specs people, its about how you make the software to interact with the device specs. I love my Moto X, as a matter of fact, I took back my S4 Active for it. S4 active is so full of bloatware, it reminds me of my mothers computer everytie she asks me to fix it, it has at least 6-7 toolbars in IE, and you can barely search anything. Some options are great on devices like the S4, but when you stick to simplicity, things work way better. My Moto X has been invaluable to me so far in terms of battery life, and touchless controls. Yes I use them, while driving. Convenient and safe for me and my family.
Just my 2 cents...

Coming from the S4 Active and the HTC One before that I can honestly say that this is the best Android phone I've ever used. It is every bit as fast as those two, if not faster, but even smoother with absolutely zero lag. Couple the amazing performance with the perfect physical design and you've got the Android phone that all others aspired to be but fell short. Screw the spec war, what Motorola did with this phone is nothing short of outstanding. I feel like this is the smart phone I've always wanted. Now if only I can get this crappy battery life figured out...
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Even if u put 8 cores (which they're doing) on a touchwiz phone, its still gonna be laggy in some areas! I had the One before this phone and that was much better but still had some hiccups! To my surprise, I haven't experienced any hiccups on the X yet but obviously having stock android helps a lot! Not a lot of the ram is being used up and correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't this phone use Motorola's new x8 core structure which is really awesome!
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I think it compares to 'higher' end devices just fine. People are knocking it saying it's last year's specs but there was an article I read about the whole S4 pro/600 and there was a guy who is very knowledgeable when it comes to CPU's and he even said he is confused as to what makes a 600 a 600 and what makes a pro a pro. He said they are basically exactly the same from an architecture stand point. He even stated he thinks what makes a 600 a 600 and a pro a pro is the clock speed. I have the HTC One, the X and the Oppo Find 5. I'm pleasantly surprised how well the X runs. This phone is no slouch and I wouldn't consider it a mid range device. (I did consider it one before I owned one) don't get me wrong I still love my HTC one, I also love my find 5 but my X is my new love so she has been getting all the attention lately. Hehe
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I recently sold my HTC one, and plan on returning my droid maxx once the moto x arrives. I love the way the x feels in hand. I'm going to miss the battery on the max though.
I think the processor is underrated and think motorola put out a great lone of phones this year and it will only lead to better phones in the future
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The only time I could see this phone falling behind is if apps begin to fully utilize four cores, but to be honest, I'd take 2 high power cores over 4 low power cores any day. Sadly, the cores in the X aren't anything over the top and probably wouldn't out perform two of the cores from a snapdragon 800 (2.3ghz). I know on my desktop I have an AMD Athlon 64x4 @2.8ghz that performs about the same as my i5 2450m @2.5ghz (turbo and almost always at 3.1ghz). As soon as I get an application that can't utilize all 4 cores the performance is nearly halved when compared to the i5 and makes it seem like a dog. As I said though, it's no suprise that this phone performs as good or even better than "more powerful" devices. I mean, I just can't see flipping through home pages and what not requiring anything more than a decent dual core processor. Optimization is key, and throwing more cores at it won't help.

I suppose my Nexus 4 is no longer a high-end phone. But still, it is not that bad yet after having MOTO X, I hardly touch my N4 anymore for two major reasons: touchless control and the compact size of MOTO. The screen size is the same, but the phone size ain't. Additionally, N4, to me at least, has a wired headphone jack. MOTO X has it in the middle, much easier to hold.
And of course, the dimple
The only super major huge disappointment is the MOTO X's camera. Oh my goodness, magic tweak twice to wake up this crappy camera?
That said, X is more than enough to impress average consumers. It is definitely not for geeks and spec-lovers

I have a Xperia S and I am tempted to buy a moot x what do you think it's good idea? Does it worth it? I know that the camera of the MotoX takes "funeral mode" photos compared to the Xperia S
I saw that the performance it's great but I still don't know
Help
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I get no lag with any of my apps with the dual cores, even the store models and I noticed the other store models did struggle at times. Reminds me of when the HTC Vivid came out, as one of the first dual core phones....no one could use it to the full potential, so I think the Quad Cores should be better utilized in the next generation of phones, but Moto X has more than enough power right now.

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Even if u put 8 cores (which they're doing) on a touchwiz phone, its still gonna be laggy in some areas! I had the One before this phone and that was much better but still had some hiccups! To my surprise, I haven't experienced any hiccups on the X yet but obviously having stock android helps a lot! Not a lot of the ram is being used up and correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't this phone use Motorola's new x8 core structure which is really awesome!
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No need to lie, the HTC One does hiccup at all.. With that said, I'm considering going to the X simply because of battery life. I just feel like I will miss the aluminum, front speakers and camera.

I got the Moto X and love it. Everything runs smooth and fliud all throughout the system and apps. I'm selling my HTC One and GE S4 but am getting a Dev edition One. I really hope Google and Motorola keep making phones like this and this is just the beginning.

Droid Turbo or Moto x

My contract with verizon is up soon and i am deciding between both these phones.. I love the style and near naked android feel of the moto x but i have real concerns for battery life throughout the day.The turbo is a powerhouse on the battery side and is strong overall ,the thickness and size makes it less pocket friendly and the capacitive buttons aren't optimal... Since moto x has been out awhile i was looking to get opinions from owners on their likes/dislikes and if they would still pick a moto x over a turbo.. thanks

Only real advantage the turbo has over the X (on Verizon ) is battery life and wireless charging. Verizon moto X has been getting average battery life. On other editions were seeing some exceptional battery life.

im hoping android L's battery saving feature might make it more viable.. i do prefer the pocket friendly look and on screen buttons (especially if they change in L)

Well if you're not stuck on Verizon, the battery life is a lot better. I get 5.5-6hr sot over 14-20hr with my moto x pure. Using it on straight talk currently, used it on at&t and the battery life was the same.
There isn't much discernable difference in screen Unless you focus on the screen from 2-4" away. The speakerphone is miles better. The call volume is better. Feels incredibly well built, with a slightly smaller footprint. And the camera is actually pretty good, with some reviews saying it beats the turbo.
Not knocking to turbo at all, just pointing out some of the differences you were looking for.

Why is the Verizon variant so different with battery life? Isn't it basically running vanilla as well?

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Why is the Verizon variant so different with battery life? Isn't it basically running vanilla as well?
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Probably has to do with the radios for Verizon

I was debating this too. I bought the turbo and love it. For $100 bucks more you get wireless charging, insane specs, bigger battery, and a beautiful screen. Its not as big as you think it is in person! I'm glad I went with the turbo. I came from a S4 so the buttons didn't bother me although I would've preferred on screen ones. I have had zero issues with this thing and I have no buyers remorse. And I paid full price for it. Go check it out in person.

I sold the X to pick up the Turbo. X is a great phone but the battery life was bad.

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My contract with verizon is up soon and i am deciding between both these phones.. I love the style and near naked android feel of the moto x but i have real concerns for battery life throughout the day.The turbo is a powerhouse on the battery side and is strong overall ,the thickness and size makes it less pocket friendly and the capacitive buttons aren't optimal... Since moto x has been out awhile i was looking to get opinions from owners on their likes/dislikes and if they would still pick a moto x over a turbo.. thanks
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I was debating this too. I bought the turbo and love it. For $100 bucks more you get wireless charging, insane specs, bigger battery, and a beautiful screen. Its not as big as you think it is in person! I'm glad I went with the turbo. I came from a S4 so the buttons didn't bother me although I would've preferred on screen ones. I have had zero issues with this thing and I have no buyers remorse. And I paid full price for it. Go check it out in person.
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I'm actually thinking that I'm going to end up trading my Turbo in for an X. I just don't feel like the hardware is optimized for a 2k screen at this time. I mean visually you can't even really tell that it is higher resolution but you can definitely see the performance suffering in places from it. I experience a good bit of lag when scrolling around and sometimes It even hangs for a good second or two before finally registering the touch. I've also noticed a lot of wavy/warping text when scrolling around on webpages. It's really weird. It's almost like the text takes a second to catch up with the screen and creates like a wavy sensation. Something I've never experienced with all of the 1080p screen phones that I've had. I've showed a few people and they agreed that they probably couldn't deal with it. I feel like Lollipop may correct these issues but I really don't want to take the chance in case it doesn't because I paid full price. I know many people will disagree with my observation but I was just going to put my experience out there for those trying to make a decision.
I do get really good battery life on a plus side though.

moto x with slightly better battery life would be perfect... android l might be the solution they estimate 30% more life via the new battery app

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I'm actually thinking that I'm going to end up trading my Turbo in for an X. I just don't feel like the hardware is optimized for a 2k screen at this time. I mean visually you can't even really tell that it is higher resolution but you can definitely see the performance suffering in places from it. I experience a good bit of lag when scrolling around and sometimes It even hangs for a good second or two before finally registering the touch. I've also noticed a lot of wavy/warping text when scrolling around on webpages. It's really weird. It's almost like the text takes a second to catch up with the screen and creates like a wavy sensation. Something I've never experienced with all of the 1080p screen phones that I've had. I've showed a few people and they agreed that they probably couldn't deal with it. I feel like Lollipop may correct these issues but I really don't want to take the chance in case it doesn't because I paid full price. I know many people will disagree with my observation but I was just going to put my experience out there for those trying to make a decision.
I do get really good battery life on a plus side though.
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I agree on most of that you wrote, maybe 1080p display could increase battery life a lot, but you are losing the point also of having a future proof phone. I know that content is not optimized for 2K yet, but technology is going to that, to show better and more optimized content for this kind of displays.
About the lag, I think is really weird because everyone says that the phone is a beast and runs really good.

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I agree on most of that you wrote, maybe 1080p display could increase battery life a lot, but you are losing the point also of having a future proof phone. I know that content is not optimized for 2K yet, but technology is going to that, to show better and more optimized content for this kind of displays.
About the lag, I think is really weird because everyone says that the phone is a beast and runs really good.
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I'm not sure if there really is a such thing as future proof in this game. Even after watching a 2K video, I'd say it would be very hard for anyone to tell the difference between that and full HD. Hopefully you're right though and the display can be optimized. I really do want to like this phone.
It does run smoothly most of the time, but it definitely has it's hiccups a good bit to though. Many more of these hiccups are experienced on the Turbo as opposed to my Galaxy s5 or M8. Most obvious is when I'm scrolling through a webpage or the XDA app I know that I hit the screen properly so I'll wait instead of trying to re-swipe and about 2 seconds or so later the screen finally responds to what I did. It honestly happens a good bit. I've saw it on Twitter, chrome, Xda, the Amazon app, Twitter, and YouTube. Hopefully a software tweek can be made to fix it as I don't see any performance sufferings while playing videos. I haven't really tried games yet but if I do I'll report back.
I can really deal with all of the lag but the text/screen warping issue is my main concern at this point. There is a thread in the general section describing what we know/dont know about it. It really looks like the screen can't keep up with swipes so it causes this wavy effect. If it can't be fixed I'll definitely be getting rid of the phone as I'm somewhat of a display junkie.
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moto x with slightly better battery life would be perfect... android l might be the solution they estimate 30% more life via the new battery app
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I totally agree man.

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I'm not sure if there really is a such thing as future proof in this game. Even after watching a 2K video, I'd say it would be very hard for anyone to tell the difference between that and full HD. Hopefully you're right though and the display can be optimized. I really do want to like this phone.
It does run smoothly most of the time, but it definitely has it's hiccups a good bit to though. Many more of these hiccups are experienced on the Turbo as opposed to my Galaxy s5 or M8. Most obvious is when I'm scrolling through a webpage or the XDA app I know that I hit the screen properly so I'll wait instead of trying to re-swipe and about 2 seconds or so later the screen finally responds to what I did. It honestly happens a good bit. I've saw it on Twitter, chrome, Xda, the Amazon app, Twitter, and YouTube. Hopefully a software tweek can be made to fix it as I don't see any performance sufferings while playing videos. I haven't really tried games yet but if I do I'll report back.
I can really deal with all of the lag but the text/screen warping issue is my main concern at this point. There is a thread in the general section describing what we know/dont know about it. It really looks like the screen can't keep up with swipes so it causes this wavy effect. If it can't be fixed I'll definitely be getting rid of the phone as I'm somewhat of a display junkie.
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I totally agree man.
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It seems that the Lollipop build that is leaked to the Moto X gives impressive results concerning battery life; if this is true, maybe I will change my mind to the Moto X, because I really like it and still the capacitive buttons are not my thing. If the Moto X can last for a full day, I will have to consider it again.
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It seems that the Lollipop build that is leaked to the Moto X gives impressive results concerning battery life; if this is true, maybe I will change my mind to the Moto X, because I really like it and still the capacitive buttons are not my thing. If the Moto X can last for a full day, I will have to consider it again.
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Good points

Still the best phone?

So...after 4 months with the Verizon version, I'm making what I call a "lateral"transfer to the LG G2. Specs are becoming moot. The G2 offers a lot, the battery being a big factor.
Did anyone else let go of there Moto X 2014?
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I'll never let go of the Moto X, best phone ever made. I always sell my old devices to pay for my new ones, but that's not gonna happen this time around. This bad boy is going in the museum when I upgrade.

A friend just got the G3 as there was some issue getting the Moto X (corporate account). It's a great phone, but I wasn't a big fan of their software overlays. Plus cell radio quality is a big factor for me and the Moto X has better radio/antenna system. Camera on LG is noticeably better, but still not good enough if it is low light and something I really care about. Nice that it has removable battery and SD card, but have really never needed either.
And I do like the Moto X add ons... if they'd only get 'Attentive Display' working on Lollipop!

I'm finding that the battery isn't holding up long term.I need more. It's great for what it does, but it's a legitimate step back. It's rather disappointing.
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A friend just got the G3 as there was some issue getting the Moto X (corporate account). It's a great phone, but I wasn't a big fan of their software overlays. Plus cell radio quality is a big factor for me and the Moto X has better radio/antenna system. Camera on LG is noticeably better, but still not good enough if it is low light and something I really care about. Nice that it has removable battery and SD card, but have really never needed either.
And I do like the Moto X add ons... if they'd only get 'Attentive Display' working on Lollipop!
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Attentive display seems to be working quite well in the newest lollipop build (5.0.1) that was just released for Telus in Canada.

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Attentive display seems to be working quite well in the newest lollipop build (5.0.1) that was just released for Telus in Canada.
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Good to hear. Hopefully we'll get that in the US soon.

Its the best phone for who dont have an att branded device. I cant unlock it and dont have lollipop.. Next time i will pay more for a pure.

The moto x series is really a breakthrough, this phone is (the) smartphone, I spent an hour or two receiving and responding to messages and calls without touching it not to mention other genius features which are hardware dependent.

Cons: no sd card and no easily removable battery
Pro: everything else
A very nice phone

The battery life is really bad, and has gotten worst. Even with Lollipop, which made it better, I'm not happy. As much as I love the speed of the phone, the battery is killing me hard! The G2 will give me near similar speed with much better battery, not to mention greater storage. This may be on Swappa soon...

I went from a nexus 5 to a G3 to now the moto X² PE and won't give this up unless something crazy comes out or the X³ arrives.
I have not had any battery issues with this phone as I consistently get 4.5 hrs SOT with 12+ hours total. I will say that the camera on the G3 was much better, but the moto X isn't horrible. And the hands free/voice actions with this phone are second to none.
That's just my humble opinion though.

As someone on Verizon, this phone is BY FAR the best available. No bloatware other than AcDisplay and some nice Moto things that make the phone better. Coming from a GS3 and a Galaxy Nexus (switched after my GS3 cracked), this phone is a god when it comes to battery life. I consistently get three, if not four hours of SoT per day. This phone already has lollipop and had it before some Nexus devices got it, and some flagships still don't have it, let alone on Verizon. The only thing not so good is the camera, but it gets the job done fine as long as there's good lighting. If I had the choice (unlocked cell service), I would still choose the OnePlus One, but I didn't have a choice.

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As someone on Verizon, this phone is BY FAR the best available. No bloatware other than AcDisplay and some nice Moto things that make the phone better. Coming from a GS3 and a Galaxy Nexus (switched after my GS3 cracked), this phone is a god when it comes to battery life. I consistently get three, if not four hours of SoT per day. This phone already has lollipop and had it before some Nexus devices got it, and some flagships still don't have it, let alone on Verizon. The only thing not so good is the camera, but it gets the job done fine as long as there's good lighting. If I had the choice (unlocked cell service), I would still choose the OnePlus One, but I didn't have a choice.
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I'm on Verizon, and you must not have used a G3 or the Turbo at all. The LG skin is light (I come from Samsung) and the Turbo is the X beefed up.
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I'm on Verizon, and you must not have used a G3 or the Turbo at all. The LG skin is light (I come from Samsung) and the Turbo is the X beefed up.
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The Turbo looks great on paper, but the actual device is only so-so. I spent a good deal of time with one and walked away unimpressed. The X has FAR better build quality, is as fast if not faster (no QHD screen to waste resources on) and was generally smoother. Sure the turbo has better battery life, but my X easily lasts through the day and then some so it's a non-issue. The G3 is ugly, the skin is still pretty bad, and it is underpowered for the screen it has. Aside from the N5, everything LG puts out is just meh. People need to stop looking at only specs, they don't matter nearly as much as they used to. That said, the X still provides the best user experience out of any phone on the market, and that is what's important.

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The Turbo looks great on paper, but the actual device is only so-so. I spent a good deal of time with one and walked away unimpressed. The X has FAR better build quality, is as fast if not faster (no QHD screen to waste resources on) and was generally smoother. Sure the turbo has better battery life, but my X easily lasts through the day and then some so it's a non-issue. The G3 is ugly, the skin is still pretty bad, and it is underpowered for the screen it has. Aside from the N5, everything LG puts out is just meh. People need to stop looking at only specs, they don't matter nearly as much as they used to. That said, the X still provides the best user experience out of any phone on the market, and that is what's important.
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My feelings exactly. I really, really didn't like how the Turbo was built and even though the G3 build in my opinion is sleek, it's nothing special compared to the X. I've never used either phone as a daily driver, so I may not be the best one to judge it, but the Moto X is blazing fast with "good enough" features that work for me as a user who just wants to get through the day being able to use features like Google Now, something I was never able to keep on with my previous phones. The experience of the X is perfect for an everyday user, like most people are, and in my opinion that's what matters most in a phone. Again, I may have bias as this is my only phone I have been using.

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The Turbo looks great on paper, but the actual device is only so-so. I spent a good deal of time with one and walked away unimpressed. The X has FAR better build quality, is as fast if not faster (no QHD screen to waste resources on) and was generally smoother. Sure the turbo has better battery life, but my X easily lasts through the day and then some so it's a non-issue. The G3 is ugly, the skin is still pretty bad, and it is underpowered for the screen it has. Aside from the N5, everything LG puts out is just meh. People need to stop looking at only specs, they don't matter nearly as much as they used to. That said, the X still provides the best user experience out of any phone on the market, and that is what's important.
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Well, from the beginning of time until now, numbers haven't lied. That's not up for debate. But with user experience..I have to install nova launcher on the X because stock is lacking. The G2 (which I'm going to) offers equal speed. A smaller os, better battery and excellent build all while being a year older. The X while being customizable is just not enough for a power user.
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Well, from the beginning of time until now, numbers haven't lied. That's not up for debate. But with user experience..I have to install nova launcher on the X because stock is lacking. The G2 (which I'm going to) offers equal speed. A smaller os, better battery and excellent build all while being a year older. The X while being customizable is just not enough for a power user.
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I never said numbers lie, but they aren't always representative of the actual experience that the phone provides. If numbers meant everything, than the iPhone would have the worst battery life and performance of any smartphone out there, but that couldn't be farther from the truth. The same applies to the X. While the Turbo has better numbers, the X has the better UX. I don't see how the X isn't enough for a power user, I'm the very definition of a power user and it is pretty much everything I can ask for in a smartphone, with storage being the sole exception. Who cares if you have to put Nova launcher on it? That has no bearing on the quality of the phone itself. At least it doesn't have a nasty UI like the G2 does, even Nova cant save it from LG's hideous software, not to mention the plastic fantastic build. But everybody is entitled to their own opinion. If you think the G2 will serve your needs better, than that's wonderful. For me, the X is where its at.

hello guys ! i wanna upgrade to new device
and i'm confused between nexus 5 and moto x(2014) ?
i personally like pure vanilla aosp and this both have almost same though moto has some modification i don't think it will impact badly on performance ( does it? )
i love N5's fast update smooth performance even with some hardware compromises
but on other has moto x have better SD801 , and GUP freq 578 (vs 450 on N5) { will gaming performance be better ? } which in theory make it batter performance so if any anyone here can tell it's really an upgrade or i won't feel anything better
finally i like amoled but read somewhere that amoled pannel on moto x is worst qauily that samsung can make (really ?!!) , othere thing about camera ppl says it's 13MP is not as good as 8MP of N5 !! ( is it right ? ) and moto don't have notification led & OIS ( while taking pictures only does it matter ? )
so need your view should i go for moto X of stick again with relibale N5 ? will moto x be really upgrade ?
and how's lollipop on moto X ? ( i really like lollipop so hoping bugfree )
it will be really helpful if you can answer red marked questions

jineshpatel30 said:
hello guys ! i wanna upgrade to new device
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and i'm confused between nexus 5 and moto x(2014) ?
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old generation phone vs new one. I really have no doubt which one to buy between 2 candidates.
maybe take a look to lg products or htc but don't make a step into the past.

jineshpatel30 said:
hello guys ! i wanna upgrade to new device
and i'm confused between nexus 5 and moto x(2014) ?
i personally like pure vanilla aosp and this both have almost same though moto has some modification i don't think it will impact badly on performance ( does it? )
i love N5's fast update smooth performance even with some hardware compromises
but on other has moto x have better SD801 , and GUP freq 578 (vs 450 on N5) { will gaming performance be better ? } which in theory make it batter performance so if any anyone here can tell it's really an upgrade or i won't feel anything better
finally i like amoled but read somewhere that amoled pannel on moto x is worst qauily that samsung can make (really ?!!) , othere thing about camera ppl says it's 13MP is not as good as 8MP of N5 !! ( is it right ? ) and moto don't have notification led & OIS ( while taking pictures only does it matter ? )
so need your view should i go for moto X of stick again with relibale N5 ? will moto x be really upgrade ?
and how's lollipop on moto X ? ( i really like lollipop so hoping bugfree )
it will be really helpful if you can answer red marked questions
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I have and use both of those phones regularly and while the N5 is still a beast of a phone, the Moto X is easily the better of the two. The software mods that Motorola has done don't affect performance at all, and actually go a long way to making the Moto X what it is. Moto Display and Moto Voice are game changers. Gaming performance is great on both devices but slightly better on the Moto X. I can't say anything about lollipop because I don't like it at all and am keeping all my devices on KitKat indefinitely. If you get the X, which you should, make sure you buy the Pure Edition or at least one that's not branded by a carrier who doesn't allow bootloader unlocking. You need that unlockable bootloader in order to be able to root the phone.

Moto X Play or LG G3

Hey there!
I've recently been looking for a new smartphone. I found two smartphones I like: the Motorola X Play and the LG G3. Problem is, I just can't decide which one to pick. Can somebody please help me out? Thank you in advance!

What phone are you moving on from?

gekkeman said:
Hey there!
I've recently been looking for a new smartphone. I found two smartphones I like: the Motorola X Play and the LG G3. Problem is, I just can't decide which one to pick. Can somebody please help me out? Thank you in advance!
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LG G3 - A yesteryear "FLAGSHIP"
MOTO X PLAY - A newer "MIDRANGER"
Hope you know what to expect from these respective devices.

Hi had 2 g3 superb phone specially the 4k screen but battery poor
Moto x play superb battery and performance
However the G3 let's you choose which apps go full screen no soft keys at the bottom without the needs of root or apps
Something I really miss going to x play
Plus the firmware upgrade are pants still waiting for marshmallow to come out officially here
Hope it helps

Chaotic-Entropy said:
What phone are you moving on from?
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I'm currently using a Microsoft Lumia 640.

richardrs123 said:
Hi had 2 g3 superb phone specially the 4k screen but battery poor
Moto x play superb battery and performance
However the G3 let's you choose which apps go full screen no soft keys at the bottom without the needs of root or apps
Something I really miss going to x play
Plus the firmware upgrade are pants still waiting for marshmallow to come out officially here
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I thought G3 had 2K screen?
Anyway, thanks for your comment! I'll take it into consideration.

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I thought G3 had 2K screen?
Anyway, thanks for your comment! I'll take it into consideration.
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My mistake pressed wrong key lol

After using a Nexus 5 for a couple years I was ready to move on to something with a larger screen. I initially went with the LG G3 and I liked the experience. The phone was snappy and did better than the Nexus 5 in benchmarks. However, I had what seemed to be a not so rare yet not so common issue. The phone would randomly shut off by itself and require a battery pull and reseat before it would turn back on. I had to pull the battery, hold the power button for 15 seconds and then reseat the battery. Happened every day, some days twice. Now I may have just gotten unlucky but I've read reports on various forums about this issue. Turns out on some of the G3s the molding of the battery compartment isn't fitted to the size of the battery properly, so the battery can shift to the side losing contact with the phone.
I took it back to the store and they didn't have any more G3s in stock to swap it out for so I opted for the Moto X Play. Under Lollipop the X Play has some performance issues, specifically when it comes to scrollable apps like Chrome. They tend to micro stutter and freeze while scrolling. Under Marshmallow the issue is largely resolved. It still happens but not nearly as often. There also seems to be an issue with performance drop over time. I have to factory reset every few weeks otherwise the phone slows right down to a crawl. The X Play is a mid range device with a SoC that is known to be lackluster (SnapDragon 615). It's priced accordingly. Theoretically it should be better than the G3 by a little bit since that SoC is technically a 64bit chip, however Motorola has stuck to only releasing 32bit builds for it so that theoretical performance advantage is not there. The G3 performs better in benchmarks.
It comes down to a simple choice.
LG G3 - Better performance with worse battery life.
Moto X Play - Much better battery life with worse performance.
Both devices should cost about the same.
After my experience with both devices I plan on buying either a Nexus 5X or Nexus 6P outright. I love the battery life in the X Play however having to factory reset every few weeks is a pain and Motorola just isn't as fast with updates anymore. They used to be, but with this phone there is no official communication so there is no telling when updates are being released, its hard to find fastboot flashable factory images (Only in a thread here on XDA and its filefactory so downloads are really slow) and updates are only marginally faster than other manufacturers.

ToYeD said:
After using a Nexus 5 for a couple years I was ready to move on to something with a larger screen. I initially went with the LG G3 and I liked the experience. The phone was snappy and did better than the Nexus 5 in benchmarks. However, I had what seemed to be a not so rare yet not so common issue. The phone would randomly shut off by itself and require a battery pull and reseat before it would turn back on. I had to pull the battery, hold the power button for 15 seconds and then reseat the battery. Happened every day, some days twice. Now I may have just gotten unlucky but I've read reports on various forums about this issue. Turns out on some of the G3s the molding of the battery compartment isn't fitted to the size of the battery properly, so the battery can shift to the side losing contact with the phone.
I took it back to the store and they didn't have any more G3s in stock to swap it out for so I opted for the Moto X Play. Under Lollipop the X Play has some performance issues, specifically when it comes to scrollable apps like Chrome. They tend to micro stutter and freeze while scrolling. Under Marshmallow the issue is largely resolved. It still happens but not nearly as often. There also seems to be an issue with performance drop over time. I have to factory reset every few weeks otherwise the phone slows right down to a crawl. The X Play is a mid range device with a SoC that is known to be lackluster (SnapDragon 615). It's priced accordingly. Theoretically it should be better than the G3 by a little bit since that SoC is technically a 64bit chip, however Motorola has stuck to only releasing 32bit builds for it so that theoretical performance advantage is not there. The G3 performs better in benchmarks.
It comes down to a simple choice.
LG G3 - Better performance with worse battery life.
Moto X Play - Much better battery life with worse performance.
Both devices should cost about the same.
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Okey, clear! Thanks for this information! Greatly aprreciated! I think I'll go with the Moto. You said you reset the phone regularly, because if you don't it will eventually become very slow. Do you have any knowledge whether this is a common problem?

gekkeman said:
Okey, clear! Thanks for this information! Greatly aprreciated! I think I'll go with the Moto. You said you reset the phone regularly, because if you don't it will eventually become very slow. Do you have any knowledge whether this is a common problem?
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Nothing concrete. Just a couple of others on these forums reporting the same, but a couple people doesn't mean it's an across the board issue. It's probably just an issue with a small fraction of the X plays produced. All I know is it was a hard decision going from a Nexus to a non Nexus device and my experience made it easy to decide to go back. You may not have any of these issues with either the g3 or the X Play.

Motorola build quality is better than LG's, and the X Play is a nicer object to hold, look at, and use than the G3.

I have both phones right in front of me right now..... and I prefer the LG G3.
Out of the box... the G3 has a nicer firmware with a LOT more options.
On the other hand, Motorolla has Marshmallow updates.
Pros LG G3
- much better camera, even if less pixels, the image quality is a lot clearer and less grainy. The laser focus helps a lot.
-better screen resolution (quad HD)
- more RAM (3Gb)
- removable battery
- 32gb of space
- to me, i feel the LG g3 feels less cheap than the motorolla, specially the buttons on the side of the motorolla feels cheap. Also dont like the fake leather back cover.
- phone speaker is louder. (not the loudspeaker)
-more cases and accessories atm. Lots of custom roms, easy to root and stuff.
Pros Moto X play
- brighter screen, more vibrant colors
- better battery life, but its also a bigger battery (but its non removable)
- 21mp camera in 4:3 mode..... but its very grainy. It has better low light performances than the G3 a little... but again... the result is VERY grainy.
- loudspeaker is louder than G3 but not as nice sounding
- good front camera
- bigger 8 core CPU
- faster in some apps, but not in everything.
So yeah.... I made my choice on the LG for the more customizable interface out of the box and the much better camera.
Other than that..... really similar phone. Performance are both nice and fast. they both have some apps they perform better than the other but cant really give a winner there.

ToYeD said:
After using a Nexus 5 for a couple years I was ready to move on to something with a larger screen. I initially went with the LG G3 and I liked the experience. The phone was snappy and did better than the Nexus 5 in benchmarks. However, I had what seemed to be a not so rare yet not so common issue. The phone would randomly shut off by itself and require a battery pull and reseat before it would turn back on. I had to pull the battery, hold the power button for 15 seconds and then reseat the battery. Happened every day, some days twice. Now I may have just gotten unlucky but I've read reports on various forums about this issue. Turns out on some of the G3s the molding of the battery compartment isn't fitted to the size of the battery properly, so the battery can shift to the side losing contact with the phone.
I took it back to the store and they didn't have any more G3s in stock to swap it out for so I opted for the Moto X Play. Under Lollipop the X Play has some performance issues, specifically when it comes to scrollable apps like Chrome. They tend to micro stutter and freeze while scrolling. Under Marshmallow the issue is largely resolved. It still happens but not nearly as often. There also seems to be an issue with performance drop over time. I have to factory reset every few weeks otherwise the phone slows right down to a crawl. The X Play is a mid range device with a SoC that is known to be lackluster (SnapDragon 615). It's priced accordingly. Theoretically it should be better than the G3 by a little bit since that SoC is technically a 64bit chip, however Motorola has stuck to only releasing 32bit builds for it so that theoretical performance advantage is not there. The G3 performs better in benchmarks.
It comes down to a simple choice.
LG G3 - Better performance with worse battery life.
Moto X Play - Much better battery life with worse performance.
Both devices should cost about the same.
After my experience with both devices I plan on buying either a Nexus 5X or Nexus 6P outright. I love the battery life in the X Play however having to factory reset every few weeks is a pain and Motorola just isn't as fast with updates anymore. They used to be, but with this phone there is no official communication so there is no telling when updates are being released, its hard to find fastboot flashable factory images (Only in a thread here on XDA and its filefactory so downloads are really slow) and updates are only marginally faster than other manufacturers.
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I had to reset only once after updating to 6.0. Since then it's working fine. The lags are no more in 6.0.
Also sd615 has newer architecture so doesnt mean, it's better. It's still a mid range chip (615) and Motorola did the right thing by not providing the 64 but software. G3's maybe an old chip but that was a flagship chip and still is which has better performance than this newer chip.
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ToYeD said:
Nothing concrete. Just a couple of others on these forums reporting the same, but a couple people doesn't mean it's an across the board issue. It's probably just an issue with a small fraction of the X plays produced. All I know is it was a hard decision going from a Nexus to a non Nexus device and my experience made it easy to decide to go back. You may not have any of these issues with either the g3 or the X Play.
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Okey, thanks a lot!

I also had the same dilema. Went with the Moto X Play and a month later I know I made the right choice. Amazing design, great screen, amazing battery life and stock android is WAY WAY WAY better then LG`s nasty UI. Oh am I am getting updates haha.

obviously MXP , how many phones out there give 10hours of SOT and that's with dual sim ??
I will gladly trade a few cores for extra SOT.

gekkeman said:
Okey, clear! Thanks for this information! Greatly aprreciated! I think I'll go with the Moto. You said you reset the phone regularly, because if you don't it will eventually become very slow. Do you have any knowledge whether this is a common problem?
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Hey I thought I'd give my thoughts. I've owned both and I gotta say although I loved the G3, after having the battery life of the x play I could not go back. As far as the slowing down if you are in XDA and flashing roms then that's not something I would be too concerned with in the near future (say 2 years). I also found no matter which rom I used on the G3 it seemed to want to overheat a lot. Just my thoughts, hope it helps.

joeanca said:
Hey I thought I'd give my thoughts. I've owned both and I gotta say although I loved the G3, after having the battery life of the x play I could not go back. As far as the slowing down if you are in XDA and flashing roms then that's not something I would be too concerned with in the near future (say 2 years). I also found no matter which rom I used on the G3 it seemed to want to overheat a lot. Just my thoughts, hope it helps.
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Could you tell me something about what roms exactly are?

I see them as operating systems for the phone, think of the equivalent of different versions of Windows for your phone (XP, Windows 7, or 10) they key here is that they are somewhat personalized and give you different looks and functions that perhaps your stock experience wouldn't. An example of this is better battery life, or options such as changing the look of the whole user experience. They also, and for the most part, enhance your phones capabilities(responsiveness and security) and give you quicker updates than lg or Motorola would. Hope this helps.
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obviously MXP , how many phones out there give 10hours of SOT and that's with dual sim ??
I will gladly trade a few cores for extra SOT.
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You're absolutely right. I've made up my mind and decided to go with the Moto. All I have to do now is find a carrier that meets my needs, order the phone and enjoy it;s great features, one of which is the great SOT!