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Question for those of you migrating from Droids, or have handled one extensively:
1. How much difference does the double memory and processor make? I mean I know it's faster by alot... but Droid was already fast, Droid has a GPU, and I've read repeatedly that nothing really uses Snapdragons power potential yet. The iPhone uses a much slower chip in 3g and 3gs, and no one seems to complain there.
2. Compare the camera for me. I hated how slow the demo model at the store's camera was on the Droid, and all my old HTC phones. The N1 I had was decent. The Incredible has been fantastic for me as for as time it takes to capture and save a pic.
3. Compare the screens. Not technical wise, and dont get all in depth if you havent handled it. How is our screen noticably better or worse? For instance I hate all OLED's complete failure in sunlight, but do like how colorful it is. And touch is noticably better on Incredible than N1, and droid seemed to have lower tech touchpad.
4. Very important: please compare how loud the speakerphone is and if voice quality on ear phone is different. I don't like HTC's speakerphones, on WM or Android, although the Incredible seems a little better than before. I've heard that the MotoDroid's is very loud and clear.
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For instance I hate all OLED's complete failure in sunlight, but do like how colorful it is.
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IMHO it's actually very good in direct sunlight. I was very surprised because of blanket statements like yours.
It's hardly a complete failure and much better than the last gen of screens that HTC has put out (like TP2, etc...)
I went from a moto droid to a DI. Much snappier, don't miss the keyboard, cause I use the on screen so much anyway, and it works great.
I'm really wondering where you impressions come from if you have "ask" about them.
Making sure the auto-brightness is selected helps alot with viewing the screen in direct sunlight outside. Indoors with the same option checked was a little dim for my liking but I've adjusted to it.
Your partially correct, I think the Di screen is decent in sunlight. Supposedly same as n1 but my n1 was useless in the sun. Was wondering if it was just me.
I'm asking so I can find objective advice and not my one sided opinion. However the blanket statement should have been worded differently. Oled sun glare is a real issue though, hence Samsung hyping super oled for performance in sunlight.
Thank you both for your opinions, keep them coming.
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Opine? I'm just posting my experience in sunlight
Any doubt, ask to take one outside from the store and see for yourself (if they let you!). Your definition of N1 uselessness is just your opine, too!
Have a droid overclocked to 1200mhz, and now the incredible.
Incredible is as good or better in all respects except one. The moto droid records video at a higher bit rate and it is noticeably smoother imho. BUT, the incredible records at a higher resolution.
Concerning the screen, I find no discernable difference in direct light. However, the incredible has a MUCH greater viewing angle and more vibrant colors.
shot to shot camera speeds are much better on the incredible.
I do find the incredible screen to be more responsive, and more importantly I find it more accurate.
I think one aspect of screen sizes that always gets overlooked is the aspect ratio. They are both 3.7 inch screens, but the incredible is slightly wider and shorter. When viewing videos in the common 4:3 aspect ratio, they are larger on the incredible screen. It also makes for a slightly wider keyboard in portrait mode. Both if these are advantages for me.
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I had an opportunity to play with the incredible at a verizon store. First thing that I noticed was the AMOLED screen isn't as good as I thought it would be. People here mention that the droid's screen is much sharper but it's not because of the extra 54 pixels(TP2 has the same screen size and the same resolution yet it looks a lot sharper). The incredible has some kind of a fine mesh....it's like looking at the screen through that mesh. One might think that it's an AMOLED thing but I disagree. Although some AMOLED screens have that mesh, my Samsung i8910 didn't have it. Screen resolution was considerably lower but the actual picture looked a lot sharper...and colors were better too. Don't know...it was disappointing. I hope Super AMOLED screens don't have that ugly mesh.
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the Incredible can be faster for daily use and built in features but I feel this is due to rom optimization. The reason I say that is as soon as you step away from the basics and say play a game the droid eats it up and when you use vanilla Google functions they are the same.
the camera is hands down better on the Incredible. So much in fact it is the key reason my over all opinion is that the Incredible is a better phone. The camera on the droid is so grainy I dont take pics with it. I was always disgusted by them.
As for the screens, I know there isn't a huge difference in screen size but the over all shape of the Incredible is a lot more comfortable for web viewing in my opinion. That being said, every color besides black looks better on the droid, at least to me it does. As for touch sensitivity, they are vary close and they are both finger print magnets. I was however vary disappointed to learn the Incredible screen is run of the mil glass, not gorilla glass and it doesn't have the anti finger print coating.
I have had many HTC phones and the ear piece and load speaker have always been sub par to me but the incredible is definitely better than any other HTC phone I have ever used. The ear piece is prob louder and clearer than the droid and the loud speaker is good enough but not as loud as the droid. One of my favorite things about the Droid is its beefy loud speaker.
You didn't ask but I ran the browsers against each other and even with moderate flash on the page, the incredible and the droid were about the same speed, one would be a little faster than the other and vise verse.
again you didn't ask but at least with Petes rom, the droid outlasts the incredible by a respectable about when it comes to battery life.
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The droid has better battery life, even overclocked 200 percent?
Also, the whole faster in basic functions thing... I would expect the Droid to do well at games, since it has a similar GPU to the IPhone, and the Incredible uses Snapdragon, which as far as I can tell just uses it's raw horsepower to process graphics.
The reason I asked these questions is because only the specs of the N1 drew me to Android, but I really missed my keyboard. And when moving to Verizon, I considered getting the Droid even though it has bottom level specs [comparatively] because of the keyboard and loud speaker. The Droid has impressive construction and quality.
All that said, I really like the Incredible. I broke two nexus ones and haaaated not having a store to go and say REPLACE MY PHONE. And the other little problems are all fixed on Incredible. I'm doing some constructive thinking haha.
Really, better droid battery life on that setting? I'm skeptical :mrgreen:
Once you use the on-screen keyboard and get used to it, you won't go back.
I used to be a physical keyboard freak. Now that something is better than iphone/tp2, etc.... I'm having a great time with a lighter weight device and fast "tapping"
Cheers all..
1. How much difference does the double memory and processor make?
A. After owning the Droid, the Incredible just feels snappier in mostly everything it does. I haven't tried many 'graphic intensive' games on either device, so I cant comment on the Droid's dedicated GPU. The "Leap" feature in Sense runs very smooth, regardless of how many widgets are loaded on the 7 home screens. While its very easy to overclock the Droid, it still seemed 'sleepy' every now and then. Things would fly, and then for no reason, slow to a sludge, then back to normal. I have found this combo of Sense + Snapdragon to run great, even after throwing all my contacts, media, and apps back on.
2. Compare the camera for me.
A. As far as the camera is concerned, this advantage goes to the Incredible. The one thing I miss from the Droid is a dedicated camera button. Using the optical joystick on the Incredible (and I mean the physical pressing of the button) can sometimes generate unwanted blur. That said, the Incredible camera offers more features, the touch to focus is nice, and the shutter speed seems much quicker. I could upload some shots from both phones if anyone would like. Quite frankly the Droid camera interface just feels old. From what I read, the Droid records better video. I suspect as time goes on someone will hack the Incredible camera to do so as well.
3. Compare the screens.
A. I had not owned an OLED screen prior to switching from the Droid to the Incredible. I wouldn't call OLED a complete failure in sunlight, but I wouldn't call it a success either. With both phones set at Max Brightness, the Droid is slightly more readable outside on a sunny day. The Incredible screen is much more vibrant, but in some cases almost too vibrant. It seems to really push the red/orange colors. In a similarly lit room, with both phones set at Max Brightness, the OLED screen on the Incredible really shines. After testing a friends N1, I can say the responsiveness of the Incredible is greatly improved and more accurate. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the Incredible has a newer digitizer.
4. Very important: please compare how loud the speakerphone is and if voice quality on ear phone is different.
A. This was a huge looming question mark for me. I loved using the Droid's speakerphone for listening to music, long winded phone conversations, and annoying coworkers. I still think the Droid has the best speakerphone on the market (for now), so props to Motorola there. Look at the back of the Incredible and you see a small, underwhelming speaker hole. However the speaker on the Incredible is pleasantly surprising. While it's not as loud as the Droid, it's equally clear, and in my opinion, provides a fuller sound. Voice quality is pretty much the same on both devices, but the Incredible earpiece could be a bit louder.
Overall, I'm very pleased with the Incredible so far. I'm definitely a tinkerer (hence, here I am at xda) and try to monitor ongoing processes and such, but I haven't cared to with the Incredible. Why? I loaded it up with widgets, tunes, pictures, videos, apps.. and it's still smooth sailing
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The droid has better battery life, even overclocked 200 percent?
Also, the whole faster in basic functions thing... I would expect the Droid to do well at games, since it has a similar GPU to the IPhone, and the Incredible uses Snapdragon, which as far as I can tell just uses it's raw horsepower to process graphics.
The reason I asked these questions is because only the specs of the N1 drew me to Android, but I really missed my keyboard. And when moving to Verizon, I considered getting the Droid even though it has bottom level specs [comparatively] because of the keyboard and loud speaker. The Droid has impressive construction and quality.
All that said, I really like the Incredible. I broke two nexus ones and haaaated not having a store to go and say REPLACE MY PHONE. And the other little problems are all fixed on Incredible. I'm doing some constructive thinking haha.
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My droid has better battery life apples to apples but there is now a trick to "really" fully charge the Incredible that I am trying and it seems to be a night and day difference. I will get back to you when I have a few days to compare
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The droid has better battery life, even overclocked 200 percent?
Also, the whole faster in basic functions thing... I would expect the Droid to do well at games, since it has a similar GPU to the IPhone, and the Incredible uses Snapdragon, which as far as I can tell just uses it's raw horsepower to process graphics.
The reason I asked these questions is because only the specs of the N1 drew me to Android, but I really missed my keyboard. And when moving to Verizon, I considered getting the Droid even though it has bottom level specs [comparatively] because of the keyboard and loud speaker. The Droid has impressive construction and quality.
All that said, I really like the Incredible. I broke two nexus ones and haaaated not having a store to go and say REPLACE MY PHONE. And the other little problems are all fixed on Incredible. I'm doing some constructive thinking haha.
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You won't be disappointed with the Moto Droid. The Incredible is a beast, and slightly more refined UI. Didn't play with the speakerphone yet, but the interface is smoooth. That said, developers seem to have outpaced OEM's with low voltage kernels. I get pretty good battery life out of Bugless Beast V1 with the P3 1.2ghz Kernel. Played with the phone on and off all day yesterday, forgot to charge it overnight, and woke up to 30% battery remaining. Never turn off wifi orGPS, brightness maxed.
Biggest difference to me is that the Moto Droid feels much more solid. For all it's features, everything about the Incredible feels like a toy. Especially the screen. The best feature I have found for the incredible, beyond even the superior camera, is that there is already a extended battery that will fit without an alternative backplate. The 2800 ma/h for the Droid is so hideous I'll suffer the stock battery.
I read that you wanted in-store service, but if you're willing to do without it, you can grab a Moto Droid from Amazon for $30. It's a LOT of phone for that price. You can't find a 16 gig memory card for $30. Droid comes with one tho.
The keyboard is less refined than my old Kaiser was, let alone the TP2. But you get used to it pretty quick. Especially with Swype for basic messaging duties. Only really break out the slider for passwords anymore. And running commands in Terminal Emulator.
You won't be disappointed with either. I have a droid overclocked to 1ghz works great, the keyboard for me was a joke, my gf uses it now and loves it. The DI is overall snappier and more responsive and if the droid is left with several apps open for a long period of time it can lag a bit, where I have not noticed any change on the Incredible. But still nothing as bad as WM. If you are about having big balls go big and get the Incredible though I am in the same situation as in the past 4 devices, waiting for Root (HSPL) with WM but this is the first device that isn't crippled by the stock rom. I really like sense ui for usability.
Ill have to agree with what has been said already, the phone is really fast and responsive, havent really run into any issues with it bogging down yet. I ran cyanogen on my droid previously OCd to 1.0ghz, and while that was fast, it still occasionally bogged down a bit.
I do have a few annoyances with the incredible, Mainly the root issue, never really followed the problems the Eris community is having, but apparently HTC just really doesnt want anyone to root their phones for some reason. Hoping to see some progress on that front sooner than later.
The autocorrect feature is basically unusable, at least for me. I understand having to train words and all that, but the correct is VERY aggressive, to the point of nonsense. I dont know who thought "haha" should be autocorrected to "usually", I dont see how that could be considered even remotely similar. It was ok in correcting words while I was still getting used to the touch keyboard, but I ended up turning it off. Maybe if it automatically learned words you use I could leave it on, but coupled with the aggressiveness, having to stop and tell it to learn 3-4 words per sentence is ridiculous.
The bottom buttons are a bit touchy in my experience. Whatever is different from the droid, I sometimes find myself having to tap the back button more than once to get it to register, but not often enough to really be a major problem, more of a minor annoyance. Plus, the flip side is there are less inadvertent back button presses, since they are a bit offset from the very bottom of the phone.
My only other thoughts are on the optical trackball, not really a complaint, just an observation. I often forget it exists, probably mostly coming from the droid where that functionality was unavailable unless you opened the phone to get to the D pad thing on the keyboard, so I mostly learned to operate the phone without relying on it. Neat feature, and definitely cool when I am playing around with it, just a matter of teaching myself to remember to use it, I suppose.
Overall, Im happy about the switch. I do miss root and all the goodies that come with that, but hopefully that will be fixed sometime fairly soon. The overall feel of the phone is vastly improved, however if you tend to wear shallow pockets you may want to invest in a holster, you might not even realize the phone fell out. If you are into the newest thing, the incredible is definitely that, for the moment.
Just a note: I am not deciding between the Droid and DI. I bought the Incredible the day it came out, because I wanted Verizon's network, and I had an N1.
I really wish there was a phone with a wide enough screen for typing, very very loud speakerphone, and a hardware keyboard. i type emails for my small business on the Di, and it's very doable but still slower than my TP2 was.
I too am frustrated with root, I almost require WiFi Tethering and the LED Flashlight.
I really almost got the Droid because of it's developed community and accessories, but the processor put me on the fence. On the one hand, the 3GS makes due with the same processor and no complaints from their camp, and all Droid review mention good performance... on the other hand how could TWICE the processing power be negligible? Would 550Mhz still cut it with Froyo and Flash and 4g Apps and all that? And so I went with the Incredible, and am very happy about how HTC fixed almost every single gripe I've had with HTC in general, and with the N1.
I wasn't planning on buying the Droid X but because of the unknown arrival time for the Fascinate, I picked up the X today. I am going to put it through its paces and will do the same when the Fascinate arrives. Then I'll sell the lesser of the two phones.
I am so sick and tired of the issues with the Eris that I needed to get something. At least with the Droid X, it has bluetooth voice dialing with Android 2.1 whereas the Fascinate won't have it until 2.2.
I bought the X today with only the intent of having it until I could buy the Fascinate, or for 30 days if it wasn't out yet then and I'd pay for a month of service on my old phone.
Then, I tested the GPS. Holy Christ. I've never in my life seen a GPS perform like the one in this phone. It was lightning-quick with the directions, I couldn't discern any lag whatsoever in the directions it was reading off, and it synced seemingly instantly. I did enable the quick GPS update in the settings, and I turned the GPS on before opening the car dock app, but still; it worked AMAZINGLY well. It seems like Motorola put a good, powerful GPS chip in this phone. Damn them, I may have to stick with the X long-term now, lol.
Like everything you buy, you have to give more weight to some items than others based on what is important to you. One of the things that's was driving me crazy on my stinking Eris is not having BT voice dialing. The Voice Command on the X is fantastic! I'm so impressed with this phone.
im waiting on the fascinate
I had the x for 2 days and did not like a few things.
Moto blur garbage.
Super quiet ringtones
super quiet voice navagation / hard to hear.
Blurry photo's
Slow charge and quick discharge
Moto blur garbage.. had to mention it twice.
The screen was nice and big, but after seeing the side by side with the fascinate and the Droid x.. The fascinate has 2x the quality of the screen...
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I had the x for 2 days and did not like a few things.
Moto blur garbage.
Super quiet ringtones
super quiet voice navagation / hard to hear.
Blurry photo's
Slow charge and quick discharge
Moto blur garbage.. had to mention it twice.
The screen was nice and big, but after seeing the side by side with the fascinate and the Droid x.. The fascinate has 2x the quality of the screen...
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I too have found a few things lacking,
Quality of physical buttons (and difficulty of depressing small physical buttons when stretching my thumb down that massive screen)
Uncertainty of non Motorola ROMS (I know this has been debated in great detail elsewhere)
Random software issues (screen waking on it's own, for example)
I am most likely going to return the DX and hope it doesn't take too long for the Fascinate to come out. I wanted to like this phone so much but it just doesn't feel right.
The Droid X is like a giant... Probably because I'm 5'4
I played around with both models quite a bit before settling on the Fascinate. The Fascinate has an overall better chip in it, and I've always been a fan of Samsung phones in general. The GPU is noticably better, and I can't wait till Froyo hits. Downsides were the lack of HDMI out, and the 5 MP camera. Still and all, the pics look better than the DX, and the camera is a hell of a lot more responsive.
The biggest drawbacks to the DX IMO are the lockdown on the kernel, which will hinder, or at least slow development, and the fact that it won't fit comfortably into the pocket of anyone not named Kirsty Alley.
About that 5mp shooter on the fascinate. I've owned both and its also been proven that the Samsung galaxy phones take a much better pictures.
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About that 5mp shooter on the fascinate. I've owned both and its also been proven that the Samsung galaxy phones take a much better pictures.
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Agreed. I'm a bit of a digi-photo buff, and that was a big selling point for me.
I am on my 3rd Dinc replacement, I always seem to get duds. I have an option to get the Droid X instead of yet another refurb'd Dinc.
First, what I do/dont do with my phone.
I use GPS voice nav all the time.
I load it up with my audio books
I dont use widgets, dont do facebook, etc.
I use the camera and camcorder to take pics and videos of my kids, and I do alot of texting, sending pics/etc.
Surf the web, but I dont watch videos on the phone at all.
I use a BT headset.
I dont play games on it at all.
Could care less if the phone is rooted or not, I am rooted but I use LauncherPro so I dont have to deal with the bloated Sensi UI.
I dont have more than 6 apps downloaded from the market.
I hate the absolute ****ty battery the Dinc has.
Going on that info, is the Droid X going to give more problems (been reading up on battery, volume levels, etc) than the Dinc?, can the Droid X be considered a similar phone to what I have, except it does have that big ass screen. I have played with one for a few minutes, it is large, I can see things better on that big screen, and that screen size is the only thing that is even making me consider getting that phone.
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the droid x is a great phone all those things you mentioned that you like to do the droid x will do and ask for more.i have used mine for 12hr on one charge not heavy use just some videos,marketplace,texting,camera.
btw: the amoled screen on the incredible is not visable in sunlight.
I am very happy that I made the switch, the two things I miss most are some of the sense widgets and root, neither of which seem to be an issue for you. The screen is amazing, the camera is amazing and the battery is an improvement. All in all it's a great phone and I couldn't be happier with it, well maybe with root, but I'm not getting my hopes up anytime soon.
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btw: the amoled screen on the incredible is not visable in sunlight.
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Did you even have an Incredible? Yes, it's not the easiest to see in sunlight, but it certainly isn't "invisible", please.
To the OP, I am still trying to decide if I am going to keep my X, or go back to my Incredible. The X seems to get a little better signal then the Incredible, and it certainly works better with my Motorola T505, that I use to listen to my music through my car stereo, but it's big. I don't know if I like the feel of it in my hand. The Incredible, is a nice size, and fits perfect, in pocket, and in hand. Maybe the answer will be the 4" Samsung Galaxy S, when that arrives at Verizon. Anyway, I wish I could give you a more definitive answer, but it's only been a few days, and I'm still giving the X a chance, before I decide which on to stay with.
I think the HTC phone despite screen size and battery life is better. The DroidX screen is horribly washed out. Even compared to other phones including the Evo.
There are things that Sense manages even if you use a different launcher that the X does not have.
Simple things like SMS/Gmail icon notifications on the X are non-existent.
You can't use contact pictures from exchange, the facebook integration with contacts is X is a joke compared to HTC.
The contact UI in sense is much better and easier to manage than the X.
The camera on the INC is faster in low light and does not turn pictures yellow like the Motorola. The Motorola lock screen is slow and buggy.
The HTC just provides a more complete experience out of the box without having to download a bunch of crap to get everything the way you want.
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dont tell me that the screen is visable in direct sunlight because i did have one and your full of it if you say that you can read everything on the screen in direct sunlight.
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dont tell me that the screen is visable in direct sunlight because i did have one and your full of it if you say that you can read everything on the screen in direct sunlight.
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Not only can I see it in direct sunlight, I can do it with sunglasses on.
ok whatever you say.
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ok whatever you say.
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Learn to turn up the brightness on your display...
The Droid Incredible and Nexus One have identical displays and I can see my Nexus One fine in direct sunlight when I have brightness on 100%. Once I start turning down the brightness, the visibility fades exponentially.
If you compare, the x is much more advanced and snappier than the incredible. Let's say you don't need noise cancellation and the nifty features of the cameras audio and video capture. Then yeah your cool with the incredible, essentially they're the same. Just the x has a larger display.
Also, if you sit and think, every android has a little more than this one, others have less, more have innovative inserts like the x, and others are just pretty like the droid incredible and the htc evo. This all boils down to what you feel suits your needs.
Oh btw, verizon is releasing froyo in a few weeks. For the droid, incredible, droidx, and droid 2. BGR just got the tip for it. Its on twitter. Damn, verizon really really like to be dominant. Like they see no other alternative but to be great.
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I must agree with pima. I absolutely love my Inc (I also bought the X and am deciding which to keep), but it is extremely difficult (for me anyways) to read things like text messages on it when outside in direct sunlight on a bright day, even when I set brightness all the way up.
Sense definitely runs more smoothly than Motoblur, however I don't care for either and can't comprehend why Motorola or HTC would want to try to fix something that is not broken. It's maddening that OS updates are held up for months because of this. I long for a phone that doesn't force me to use it's manufacturer's UI (and is less glitchy than the N1). But I digress...
I see enormous potential in the X's camera, but find it to be very frustrating in it's current form. For example, I couldn't use Barcode Scanner yesterday because the auto-focus kept zooming in and out; therefore, the camera couldn't focus on a barcode long enough to get a scan (the same phenomenon resulted in inconsistent pic's). Luckily, this is undoubtedly a software issue the should be resolved in short order through an OTA update (this may well be fixed in the update that is being rolled out today).
I love the X's keyboard. I actually also liked the Inc's keyboard relative to my previous phone, the N1. However, the X's keyboard is the best I've used on a smartphone (and I also owned an iphone 3gs at one low point in my life).
The X's battery is way better than the Inc's in my opinion. I get more life from it than I did from the 2150 extended battery I bought from HTC.
I can defintely empathize with oldmacnut's dilemma. Both phones have clear advantages/disadvantages. I'm finding that rooting/unlocking are more important to me than i realized, so I will likely go back to the Inc. However, if was in the OP's shoes I would probably go with the X, especially considering that its bugs are fixable and Froyo update is coming soon.
I came over to the x from the dinc myself, if u aren't rooting i'd go with the x. The hi is actually a little more gittery on the x but the biggest difference i can notice is the actual power of the proccessor on the x, not just clock speed. The x can run games that would make my dinc choke up and freeze. Look at the quadrant benchmarks. Its freakin rediculous. The dinc is a AWESOME phone. The build quality feels superior on the x and it really comes down to what fits u best. I can say i miss the DInc but i don't regret getting the x. Goodluck, this cud b a tough decision.
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After today, I decided that the X is just too big for my liking. I reactivated my Incredible, and tomorrow, I'm shipping the X back to Verizon.
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After today, I decided that the X is just too big for my liking. I reactivated my Incredible, and tomorrow, I'm shipping the X back to Verizon.
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come on man really you sound like my wife
This phone is huge... I just had to get a magnum case for it, the normal sized case fits too tight
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come on man really you sound like my wife
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I know, she tells me that all the time, too.
But, seriously, it's just too big to use with one hand. I predict, that we will start hearing about people dropping their X while trying to use it one handed.
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dont tell me that the screen is visable in direct sunlight because i did have one and your full of it if you say that you can read everything on the screen in direct sunlight.
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I did perfectly fine in sunlight...make sure the auto brightness is checked and you will be fine. Had the Incredible for 2 months...Now have the X, and I would say the X is may be a little bit better in sunlight, but NOT by much... Incredible size is better.. X is just TOO big.
I am starting to wonder if I should keep the X. May like the dinc more
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They are both great devices. I had the choice of either or and I choose the Dinc. It's an HTC thing. IMO I think HTC has the best smartphones available period. Motorola choose to encrypt the bootlooder and imo that's extremely lame. Sure it may not matter to the average Joe but it's still sneaky.
I also have both and am still undecided which I prefer. As far as both out the box it depends on wether you're new to android or not. HTC Sense is very user friendly and I love the wigdgets. Motoblur is a bit laggy and the widgets aren't bad but not as good aa HTC. Performance in my opinion is about equal except games. The X is definitely superior although I never have a problem with the Inc. The Incs camera is slightly better but not much. I could go on but I think it comes down to root. I love to customize and make my phone unique. With the X it looks like that will be hard and the Inc is already rooted. And the X is really big but not uncomfortably so although I prefer the size of the Inc. So like I said before they're both great devices so I think root is really the deciding factor. Once the X is rooted it will probably be far superior.
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I will have a droid x tomorrow as it was a replacement. In the mean time I bought a vibrant. I love the V but I also love the X!
I know this is V forum but I will also post this in the X forums to see if anyone there had to make a choice like mine!
If you had to choose, which one and why? WHY did you choose the V?
I assume that by being on XDA you'll want to play around with the phone and custom roms, the Droid X's locked bootloader will dampen the fun. Who knows when people will crack it, might be a month, might be a year.
Agreed with what tissimo said. In addition to that, Vibrant offers Super AMOLED Screen (colors are amazing), and 1GHz Hummingbird Processor. Which are pretty much the best specifications for an Android phone at the moment. Not to mention but its rumored that Verizon will be killing "unlimited data" in the future, so T-Mobile has the upper hand if Verizon goes on with that plan of going on capped data plans.
The screen of the Vibrant is perfect. I think 4.3'' is too big. It feels bad in my pocket. The screen of the X is very close to the edge of the phone (scares me). the semi-blur UI sucks compared to TouchWiz. Having the ability to change settings on the notification bar on the Vibrant rocks (and music controls).
But like everyone has, and will say.... Motorola pissed off the android world when they locked their bootloader like it was the holy grail. I would never buy a phone that I could not flash a custom ROM... and you saw how long it took them to get eclair on the droid, laughable. THANK GOD those with a droid could flash a custom rom (yeah Motorola, that helped you a lot, all of these wonderful developers doing your job).
Well I think the Vibrant is just about the perfect screen size. The Droid X just seems too big. Also, the Vibrant will almost assuredly have CM6 before the Droid X, if the X even gets it at all!
^ sadly, it will not.
after 5 failed cliqs i will never buy another motorola phone.. so no droid x for me.
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after 5 failed cliqs i will never buy another motorola phone.. so no droid x for me.
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Haha yeah I was never really impressed with any of Motorolas more fairly recent (last 3-5 years) build quality. RAZR anyone?
Motorola can suck it. I had the Cliq and had nothing but issues with it, not to mention it was so hard to hack. Motoblur is a horrid piece of software and burns through your battery. The vibrant is 100x better IMO.
Short answer, the Vibrant is the current heavyweight champion of the world. Nothing is better.
I went with Vibrant because I felt it was the best phone at the time, and because I hate Verizon. I love the Vibrant despite some initial bugs.
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I own a Vibrant and my co-worker just got a Droid X.
The screen alone on the V blows the X away, to top it off a unit with a 4" display just feels right, whereas 4.3" is overkill, the Droid X looks like a brick, but at the same token I am getting comments that my V is an iPhone rip-off.
As far as the performance is concerned, I felt the Vibrant was snappier especially with Launcher Pro instead of TouchWiz.
cons of X are: probably better support (maybe it will see Gingerbread), 2 noise canceling mics (although i dont know if they work good, Vibrant has 0), camera with dual flash.
Everything else goes to Vibrant......battery life (although i read X is also good), screen quality, size, speed, bluetooth 3.0 (whatever that does)...
X is already seeing updates with fixes, and will see 2.2 very soon........while 2.2 is also coming to Vibrant, nobody knows if its this month or maybe as late as November
I heard the camera is better on dx too. I think it comes down to what provider you can deal with. Verizon is pretty expensive.
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Droid X doesn't have an ARM processor (fail)
What you should really be asking yourself is incredible vs vibrant. Droid x is cute, but its hardware is lacking compared to either of these other phones. Not to mention Motorola phones have been difficult to mod even before the bootloader was locked.
I have to give it to Motorola that they made android way more popular in the USA than it used to be, but for anyone interested in custom ROMs or developing, they just don't compare.
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djunio said:
Short answer, the Vibrant is the current heavyweight champion of the world. Nothing is better.
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Vibrant is the heavyweight champ and literally weighs like nothing in your hand! All around such a great device!
I went into verizon the other day and played with the droid x for sum time and i have to say i didnt like it all that much. I have the vibrant and its perfect it gets a lil laggy sumtimes but what fones dont and if u root it and get setcpu runnin on it, it will be flawless trust me. and the Vibrant is Super AMOLED scratch resistant screen meanin u dont got to buy a screen protector
I'm down with both phones but once you play with the Vibrant's Amoled screen for a couple days it's difficult going back to LCD screens. It's that good.
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I heard the camera is better on dx too. I think it comes down to what provider you can deal with. Verizon is pretty expensive.
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Its about the same quality. More mps doesnt make it better. Vibrant has ton of in camera features, dont know about X
EDIT. iPhone, Sony, and Nokia cameras are the best on the market, the rest all have glitches here and there and all about the same quality....Vibrant camera is not sharp enough, maybe its a software glitch with auto focus or something...X camera pictures I believe come out noisy due to 8MP, Nexus One pictures lack color....
I do love my X, but I have grown a little tired of the size and form factor. I am a little worried I might be disappointed with the battery life and a possible resale value on the INC if I do make the switch.
Anyone had a good experience going to the INC form the X?
I haven't had an X myself but I don't know why you should be concerned about resale value..you're using the phone.
The form factor of the DX sucks IMO, it's bulky and ugly.
The Incredible's screen is much nicer quality too, even the SLCD version. When comparing the screen sizes it's like quantity vs. quality.
If you're into custom ROMs and such, the INC is a great phone.
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I haven't had an X myself but I don't know why you should be concerned about resale value..you're using the phone.
The form factor of the DX sucks IMO, it's bulky and ugly.
The Incredible's screen is much nicer quality too, even the SLCD version. When comparing the screen sizes it's like quantity vs. quality.
If you're into custom ROMs and such, the INC is a great phone.
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Only thinking about resale to help me buy a new phone when some newer versions come out (I had used the new every 2, even though its gone now, on X release date).
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I am a little worried I might be disappointed with the battery life and a possible resale value on the INC if I do make the switch.
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I can assure you not to worry about the resale value because, INC has a higher resale value than DX. INC is about $152 while DX is only about $96.
Check it out here!
https://www.trade-in.vzw.com/Home.aspx
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I can assure you not to worry about the resale value because, INC has a higher resale value than DX. INC is about $152 while DX is only about $96.
Check it out here!
https://www.trade-in.vzw.com/Home.aspx
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Hrmm I wonder why that is. I have been trying to look at what people are selling these for in the forums.
I had the x and switched to the dinc. HTC does a way better job with Android if you ask me. The community does much better with HTC devices as well. Sense is a must have for me as well.
Even though the evo sold mass amount of phones, I think its too big. I the x was just as big and drove me crazy. I like the size of the dinc. With the evos 1500 mAh battery in my dinc, I can last all day no problem.
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I had an X and returned it for an Incredible. Part of the reason was because the Incredible was free and the X had cost me $200. That said, the Incredible feels faster, even with slightly slower hardware, thanks to HTC's superior software. Motorola's software package is pretty terrible.
I made that switch. The battery life is definitely worse on the incredible. I missed the big screen at first. Made the incredible seem extra small coming from the X. I have an slcd incredible and even that screen seems to have much more contrast than the Droid x. I like running cyanogenmod and custom kernels so im enjoying the incredible.
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I had the x and switched to the dinc. HTC does a way better job with Android if you ask me. The community does much better with HTC devices as well. Sense is a must have for me as well.
Even though the evo sold mass amount of phones, I think its too big. I the x was just as big and drove me crazy. I like the size of the dinc. With the evos 1500 mAh battery in my dinc, I can last all day no problem.
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Wait a minute! The Evo battery fits the DInc? Please confirm!
I'm actually confused myself. On htcpedia there is the 1500mah for $40 for the incredible .... but the 1500mah for the evo is $30... are they the same and does it matter?
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Wait a minute! The Evo battery fits the DInc? Please confirm!
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Yes.
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X might be a nice phone but with a locked bootloader that's harder to get in than Fort knox...no thanks I will stick with my Incredible
I went from an Incredible to an X back to the Incredible
The X had nothing but issues, and screen wasn't nearly as gorgeous as the AMOLED one.
The Sense UI is the best UI you can get for Android, in my opinion hands down the best.
The hardware of the Incredible feels faster too like another poster said, on the X my friend and I were in a parking garage waiting to get a GPS signal, i pulled my Incredible out and mine found our location when the X was still looking for 10 more mins.
The X is also too tall, it doesn't use the right screen ratio like the EVO and ThunderBolt will.
The developer community is the best on EVO/Incredible vs Droid 1/2/X
and I also develop themes for Incredible which i'll be moving on to ThunderBolt
I just got an inc keeping my x to try this out. Only two things so far I don't like:
-can see the touchscreen sensors on a white background(emails or web usually)
-touch screen isn't quite as accurate as the x
-there was a hair under the glass screen. Looks like the screen isn't that tight around the body. Compressed air blew it right out though.
On a positive sense KILLS blur! The overall feel is great, better widgets, comfortable formfactor.
I had an X until 2 weeks ago. I miss it... The screen size is enough for me to be trying to get it back. I have BIG hands and I could fly texting on my X but on this, Im hitting backspace more than any other key, even with auto correct. The reason I traded was to be able to customize more which is definitely better. Another issue is with games. The Inc is slow to respond and it glitches and pauses all the time playing homerun battle 3d. The X NEVER did that. I don't know, they both have their positives and negatives but my hands alone are the reason I'm trying to trade back to an X. BUT I will come back to HTC when the Thunderbolt comes out. NO DOUBT, cause sense destroys blur. always had to use Luancherpro on the X but never on the Inc because of the custom roms...
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I just got an inc keeping my x to try this out. Only two things so far I don't like:
-can see the touchscreen sensors on a white background(emails or web usually)
-touch screen isn't quite as accurate as the x
-there was a hair under the glass screen. Looks like the screen isn't that tight around the body. Compressed air blew it right out though.
On a positive sense KILLS blur! The overall feel is great, better widgets, comfortable formfactor.
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What do you mean by the touch screen isn't as accurate? My friend and my cousin both have the X, my brother has the Fascinate, and I have the Incredible. I've used all 3 phones extensively and in my experience, the X has the least responsive touch screen of all. Do you mean accuracy as in trying to click on small links on web pages or something? If that's the case it might just be because the screen is smaller; if you're having trouble you could try highlighting the link or button that you want to click with the trackpad.
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i have the droid incredible and i bought the droid x on the week it came out.
Immiatlely i was dissappointed at the same time some things were great.
The low audio on the navigation even with the windows up made it unusable with turn by turn directions... im sure they fixed this.
The ****ty Moto UI = **** sammitch.
The below average quality of the lcd, it looked washed out and bland compared to my incredible.
The large 4.3 inch screen was awesome to surf on.
it was thin for a large phone.
It was new.
I have had many phones in the past and none of them gave me the same kind of user experience as HTC and sadly the iphone.
If i was technically retarded and was an old woman i would have kept my iphone..
But nobody besides HTC has made a better phone AND UI...
Samsung UI = **** , hardware = ok, software updates = ****
Motorola UI = **** see above
LG = **** **** and more ****
Sony = erickson = ****
nokia = failing ball of **** sammitch.. check their stocks.
Blackberry = corporate fail, good comm device.. everything else is 10 years behind.
iphone = boring plus your instantly enrolled in a group of 10 year olds and wanna be tech folks ... and mothers...any phone an old woman is comfortable using is a phone i do not want.
Well I had to trade the INC back because there was dust collecting under the screen. I am absolutely in LOVE with the phone compared to the X. But the big question I can't decide on now is:
Do I sell my X and go buy an INC retail so I at least have a 1 year warranty on it or buy one used and hope for the best (buying a new one would probably cost me 230 or so).
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I had an X until 2 weeks ago. I miss it... The screen size is enough for me to be trying to get it back. I have BIG hands and I could fly texting on my X but on this, Im hitting backspace more than any other key, even with auto correct. The reason I traded was to be able to customize more which is definitely better. Another issue is with games. The Inc is slow to respond and it glitches and pauses all the time playing homerun battle 3d. The X NEVER did that. I don't know, they both have their positives and negatives but my hands alone are the reason I'm trying to trade back to an X. BUT I will come back to HTC when the Thunderbolt comes out. NO DOUBT, cause sense destroys blur. always had to use Luancherpro on the X but never on the Inc because of the custom roms...
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Yeah games was the only thing, but I haven't played one game on my X except for paper toss. Not such a big deal to me.
I started on an X... rooted it, ROMed it (to the extent that it can be, anyway), and tried to be patient while the devs cracked the boot...and got tired of waiting. I traded it to a friend straight up for an AMOLED DInc after 3 months, and seriously, there's no comparison. I love the freedom to load CM, or Ruby, or SkyRaider on my phone. I love the ability to remap the soft keys on my HTC or use QuickDesk or PowerStrip (neither of them can be done on the X due to the locking down of the hard keys by Moto).
The only two things that I miss about the X are the bigger screen, which I really liked, and the fact that Moto's build quality is very good (it always has been), but that is it. I'll never buy another motorola product ever again unless I hear that it is open- and not because I'm some sort of super-dev, either- simply because I get better support from the dev community whose ROMs I run when I have a problem than I've ever gotten from Moto or Verizon.
The X had pretty impressive specs, but it was absolutely weighted down under Blur... SOOOO slow. I didn't even realize how slow it was until I rooted and ROMed it using rubiX, which is truly an awesome ROM considering how locked the X is, but even then it really had a lot of stupid issues (random rebooting, etc.). Then once I found out that I couldn't connect to the 802.1x wifi at my school (a known motorola issue which STILL has yet to be fixed on the DX and D2), it was over.
I've gone DInc and never regretted it.
As far as the screen, I really think that SLCD vs. AMOLED is personal preference. The colors on AMOLED are suuuuper saturated, very "thick" looking to my eyes. I don't mind SLCD screen colors or look at all, but they're definitely toned down compared to AMOLED.
What about the processor speed? Well, both of them have 1gHz processors, and with the current battery technology we have right now, I really wouldn't want much more than a that- anything faster just eats battery, really. I get some lulz from all the spec queens out there who OC their phones to 1.5 and higher, and who have to have the latest dual-core processors- they're going to spend their whole lives plugged in to the wall cuz their batteries won't last 6 hours, and then complain about bad battery life. My 1gHz snapdragon loads pages, flash, and videos from the web with no problem. I've seen the AnandTech reviews about the DX's processor being slightly faster than the DInc's, but then you have to consider Blur and (REALLY) crappy Moto software and bloat (VZW navigator, Visual Voicemail, City ID, etc.) slowing everything down again. My CM7 / ADW EX DInc is hella snappy, and I get through almost 36 hours per charge (HTC Imagio 1700mAh battery) with frequent use. No OC/UCing, totally stock.
I AM looking forward to LTE tho. That should be a real improvement. Anyway, I'm off the soapbox. Hope this helped? I dunno. I'm sittin here drinkin coffee and saw this thread. Good luck.
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