Question for those of you migrating from Droids, or have handled one extensively:
1. How much difference does the double memory and processor make? I mean I know it's faster by alot... but Droid was already fast, Droid has a GPU, and I've read repeatedly that nothing really uses Snapdragons power potential yet. The iPhone uses a much slower chip in 3g and 3gs, and no one seems to complain there.
2. Compare the camera for me. I hated how slow the demo model at the store's camera was on the Droid, and all my old HTC phones. The N1 I had was decent. The Incredible has been fantastic for me as for as time it takes to capture and save a pic.
3. Compare the screens. Not technical wise, and dont get all in depth if you havent handled it. How is our screen noticably better or worse? For instance I hate all OLED's complete failure in sunlight, but do like how colorful it is. And touch is noticably better on Incredible than N1, and droid seemed to have lower tech touchpad.
4. Very important: please compare how loud the speakerphone is and if voice quality on ear phone is different. I don't like HTC's speakerphones, on WM or Android, although the Incredible seems a little better than before. I've heard that the MotoDroid's is very loud and clear.
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For instance I hate all OLED's complete failure in sunlight, but do like how colorful it is.
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IMHO it's actually very good in direct sunlight. I was very surprised because of blanket statements like yours.
It's hardly a complete failure and much better than the last gen of screens that HTC has put out (like TP2, etc...)
I went from a moto droid to a DI. Much snappier, don't miss the keyboard, cause I use the on screen so much anyway, and it works great.
I'm really wondering where you impressions come from if you have "ask" about them.
Making sure the auto-brightness is selected helps alot with viewing the screen in direct sunlight outside. Indoors with the same option checked was a little dim for my liking but I've adjusted to it.
Your partially correct, I think the Di screen is decent in sunlight. Supposedly same as n1 but my n1 was useless in the sun. Was wondering if it was just me.
I'm asking so I can find objective advice and not my one sided opinion. However the blanket statement should have been worded differently. Oled sun glare is a real issue though, hence Samsung hyping super oled for performance in sunlight.
Thank you both for your opinions, keep them coming.
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Opine? I'm just posting my experience in sunlight
Any doubt, ask to take one outside from the store and see for yourself (if they let you!). Your definition of N1 uselessness is just your opine, too!
Have a droid overclocked to 1200mhz, and now the incredible.
Incredible is as good or better in all respects except one. The moto droid records video at a higher bit rate and it is noticeably smoother imho. BUT, the incredible records at a higher resolution.
Concerning the screen, I find no discernable difference in direct light. However, the incredible has a MUCH greater viewing angle and more vibrant colors.
shot to shot camera speeds are much better on the incredible.
I do find the incredible screen to be more responsive, and more importantly I find it more accurate.
I think one aspect of screen sizes that always gets overlooked is the aspect ratio. They are both 3.7 inch screens, but the incredible is slightly wider and shorter. When viewing videos in the common 4:3 aspect ratio, they are larger on the incredible screen. It also makes for a slightly wider keyboard in portrait mode. Both if these are advantages for me.
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I had an opportunity to play with the incredible at a verizon store. First thing that I noticed was the AMOLED screen isn't as good as I thought it would be. People here mention that the droid's screen is much sharper but it's not because of the extra 54 pixels(TP2 has the same screen size and the same resolution yet it looks a lot sharper). The incredible has some kind of a fine mesh....it's like looking at the screen through that mesh. One might think that it's an AMOLED thing but I disagree. Although some AMOLED screens have that mesh, my Samsung i8910 didn't have it. Screen resolution was considerably lower but the actual picture looked a lot sharper...and colors were better too. Don't know...it was disappointing. I hope Super AMOLED screens don't have that ugly mesh.
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the Incredible can be faster for daily use and built in features but I feel this is due to rom optimization. The reason I say that is as soon as you step away from the basics and say play a game the droid eats it up and when you use vanilla Google functions they are the same.
the camera is hands down better on the Incredible. So much in fact it is the key reason my over all opinion is that the Incredible is a better phone. The camera on the droid is so grainy I dont take pics with it. I was always disgusted by them.
As for the screens, I know there isn't a huge difference in screen size but the over all shape of the Incredible is a lot more comfortable for web viewing in my opinion. That being said, every color besides black looks better on the droid, at least to me it does. As for touch sensitivity, they are vary close and they are both finger print magnets. I was however vary disappointed to learn the Incredible screen is run of the mil glass, not gorilla glass and it doesn't have the anti finger print coating.
I have had many HTC phones and the ear piece and load speaker have always been sub par to me but the incredible is definitely better than any other HTC phone I have ever used. The ear piece is prob louder and clearer than the droid and the loud speaker is good enough but not as loud as the droid. One of my favorite things about the Droid is its beefy loud speaker.
You didn't ask but I ran the browsers against each other and even with moderate flash on the page, the incredible and the droid were about the same speed, one would be a little faster than the other and vise verse.
again you didn't ask but at least with Petes rom, the droid outlasts the incredible by a respectable about when it comes to battery life.
Hope this helps
The droid has better battery life, even overclocked 200 percent?
Also, the whole faster in basic functions thing... I would expect the Droid to do well at games, since it has a similar GPU to the IPhone, and the Incredible uses Snapdragon, which as far as I can tell just uses it's raw horsepower to process graphics.
The reason I asked these questions is because only the specs of the N1 drew me to Android, but I really missed my keyboard. And when moving to Verizon, I considered getting the Droid even though it has bottom level specs [comparatively] because of the keyboard and loud speaker. The Droid has impressive construction and quality.
All that said, I really like the Incredible. I broke two nexus ones and haaaated not having a store to go and say REPLACE MY PHONE. And the other little problems are all fixed on Incredible. I'm doing some constructive thinking haha.
Really, better droid battery life on that setting? I'm skeptical :mrgreen:
Once you use the on-screen keyboard and get used to it, you won't go back.
I used to be a physical keyboard freak. Now that something is better than iphone/tp2, etc.... I'm having a great time with a lighter weight device and fast "tapping"
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1. How much difference does the double memory and processor make?
A. After owning the Droid, the Incredible just feels snappier in mostly everything it does. I haven't tried many 'graphic intensive' games on either device, so I cant comment on the Droid's dedicated GPU. The "Leap" feature in Sense runs very smooth, regardless of how many widgets are loaded on the 7 home screens. While its very easy to overclock the Droid, it still seemed 'sleepy' every now and then. Things would fly, and then for no reason, slow to a sludge, then back to normal. I have found this combo of Sense + Snapdragon to run great, even after throwing all my contacts, media, and apps back on.
2. Compare the camera for me.
A. As far as the camera is concerned, this advantage goes to the Incredible. The one thing I miss from the Droid is a dedicated camera button. Using the optical joystick on the Incredible (and I mean the physical pressing of the button) can sometimes generate unwanted blur. That said, the Incredible camera offers more features, the touch to focus is nice, and the shutter speed seems much quicker. I could upload some shots from both phones if anyone would like. Quite frankly the Droid camera interface just feels old. From what I read, the Droid records better video. I suspect as time goes on someone will hack the Incredible camera to do so as well.
3. Compare the screens.
A. I had not owned an OLED screen prior to switching from the Droid to the Incredible. I wouldn't call OLED a complete failure in sunlight, but I wouldn't call it a success either. With both phones set at Max Brightness, the Droid is slightly more readable outside on a sunny day. The Incredible screen is much more vibrant, but in some cases almost too vibrant. It seems to really push the red/orange colors. In a similarly lit room, with both phones set at Max Brightness, the OLED screen on the Incredible really shines. After testing a friends N1, I can say the responsiveness of the Incredible is greatly improved and more accurate. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the Incredible has a newer digitizer.
4. Very important: please compare how loud the speakerphone is and if voice quality on ear phone is different.
A. This was a huge looming question mark for me. I loved using the Droid's speakerphone for listening to music, long winded phone conversations, and annoying coworkers. I still think the Droid has the best speakerphone on the market (for now), so props to Motorola there. Look at the back of the Incredible and you see a small, underwhelming speaker hole. However the speaker on the Incredible is pleasantly surprising. While it's not as loud as the Droid, it's equally clear, and in my opinion, provides a fuller sound. Voice quality is pretty much the same on both devices, but the Incredible earpiece could be a bit louder.
Overall, I'm very pleased with the Incredible so far. I'm definitely a tinkerer (hence, here I am at xda) and try to monitor ongoing processes and such, but I haven't cared to with the Incredible. Why? I loaded it up with widgets, tunes, pictures, videos, apps.. and it's still smooth sailing
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The droid has better battery life, even overclocked 200 percent?
Also, the whole faster in basic functions thing... I would expect the Droid to do well at games, since it has a similar GPU to the IPhone, and the Incredible uses Snapdragon, which as far as I can tell just uses it's raw horsepower to process graphics.
The reason I asked these questions is because only the specs of the N1 drew me to Android, but I really missed my keyboard. And when moving to Verizon, I considered getting the Droid even though it has bottom level specs [comparatively] because of the keyboard and loud speaker. The Droid has impressive construction and quality.
All that said, I really like the Incredible. I broke two nexus ones and haaaated not having a store to go and say REPLACE MY PHONE. And the other little problems are all fixed on Incredible. I'm doing some constructive thinking haha.
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My droid has better battery life apples to apples but there is now a trick to "really" fully charge the Incredible that I am trying and it seems to be a night and day difference. I will get back to you when I have a few days to compare
trevorwhopkins said:
The droid has better battery life, even overclocked 200 percent?
Also, the whole faster in basic functions thing... I would expect the Droid to do well at games, since it has a similar GPU to the IPhone, and the Incredible uses Snapdragon, which as far as I can tell just uses it's raw horsepower to process graphics.
The reason I asked these questions is because only the specs of the N1 drew me to Android, but I really missed my keyboard. And when moving to Verizon, I considered getting the Droid even though it has bottom level specs [comparatively] because of the keyboard and loud speaker. The Droid has impressive construction and quality.
All that said, I really like the Incredible. I broke two nexus ones and haaaated not having a store to go and say REPLACE MY PHONE. And the other little problems are all fixed on Incredible. I'm doing some constructive thinking haha.
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You won't be disappointed with the Moto Droid. The Incredible is a beast, and slightly more refined UI. Didn't play with the speakerphone yet, but the interface is smoooth. That said, developers seem to have outpaced OEM's with low voltage kernels. I get pretty good battery life out of Bugless Beast V1 with the P3 1.2ghz Kernel. Played with the phone on and off all day yesterday, forgot to charge it overnight, and woke up to 30% battery remaining. Never turn off wifi orGPS, brightness maxed.
Biggest difference to me is that the Moto Droid feels much more solid. For all it's features, everything about the Incredible feels like a toy. Especially the screen. The best feature I have found for the incredible, beyond even the superior camera, is that there is already a extended battery that will fit without an alternative backplate. The 2800 ma/h for the Droid is so hideous I'll suffer the stock battery.
I read that you wanted in-store service, but if you're willing to do without it, you can grab a Moto Droid from Amazon for $30. It's a LOT of phone for that price. You can't find a 16 gig memory card for $30. Droid comes with one tho.
The keyboard is less refined than my old Kaiser was, let alone the TP2. But you get used to it pretty quick. Especially with Swype for basic messaging duties. Only really break out the slider for passwords anymore. And running commands in Terminal Emulator.
You won't be disappointed with either. I have a droid overclocked to 1ghz works great, the keyboard for me was a joke, my gf uses it now and loves it. The DI is overall snappier and more responsive and if the droid is left with several apps open for a long period of time it can lag a bit, where I have not noticed any change on the Incredible. But still nothing as bad as WM. If you are about having big balls go big and get the Incredible though I am in the same situation as in the past 4 devices, waiting for Root (HSPL) with WM but this is the first device that isn't crippled by the stock rom. I really like sense ui for usability.
Ill have to agree with what has been said already, the phone is really fast and responsive, havent really run into any issues with it bogging down yet. I ran cyanogen on my droid previously OCd to 1.0ghz, and while that was fast, it still occasionally bogged down a bit.
I do have a few annoyances with the incredible, Mainly the root issue, never really followed the problems the Eris community is having, but apparently HTC just really doesnt want anyone to root their phones for some reason. Hoping to see some progress on that front sooner than later.
The autocorrect feature is basically unusable, at least for me. I understand having to train words and all that, but the correct is VERY aggressive, to the point of nonsense. I dont know who thought "haha" should be autocorrected to "usually", I dont see how that could be considered even remotely similar. It was ok in correcting words while I was still getting used to the touch keyboard, but I ended up turning it off. Maybe if it automatically learned words you use I could leave it on, but coupled with the aggressiveness, having to stop and tell it to learn 3-4 words per sentence is ridiculous.
The bottom buttons are a bit touchy in my experience. Whatever is different from the droid, I sometimes find myself having to tap the back button more than once to get it to register, but not often enough to really be a major problem, more of a minor annoyance. Plus, the flip side is there are less inadvertent back button presses, since they are a bit offset from the very bottom of the phone.
My only other thoughts are on the optical trackball, not really a complaint, just an observation. I often forget it exists, probably mostly coming from the droid where that functionality was unavailable unless you opened the phone to get to the D pad thing on the keyboard, so I mostly learned to operate the phone without relying on it. Neat feature, and definitely cool when I am playing around with it, just a matter of teaching myself to remember to use it, I suppose.
Overall, Im happy about the switch. I do miss root and all the goodies that come with that, but hopefully that will be fixed sometime fairly soon. The overall feel of the phone is vastly improved, however if you tend to wear shallow pockets you may want to invest in a holster, you might not even realize the phone fell out. If you are into the newest thing, the incredible is definitely that, for the moment.
Just a note: I am not deciding between the Droid and DI. I bought the Incredible the day it came out, because I wanted Verizon's network, and I had an N1.
I really wish there was a phone with a wide enough screen for typing, very very loud speakerphone, and a hardware keyboard. i type emails for my small business on the Di, and it's very doable but still slower than my TP2 was.
I too am frustrated with root, I almost require WiFi Tethering and the LED Flashlight.
I really almost got the Droid because of it's developed community and accessories, but the processor put me on the fence. On the one hand, the 3GS makes due with the same processor and no complaints from their camp, and all Droid review mention good performance... on the other hand how could TWICE the processing power be negligible? Would 550Mhz still cut it with Froyo and Flash and 4g Apps and all that? And so I went with the Incredible, and am very happy about how HTC fixed almost every single gripe I've had with HTC in general, and with the N1.
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I played around with the HTC Incredible for a few minutes today.
- I did not like the look and feel (ID) of the Incredible nearly as much as I thought I would. It looked and felt cheaper than the N1. The shape is boring and the all glass/shiny front does not look good. I am much more pleased with the look and feel of the N1.
- The software shortcut buttons (back/menu/home/search) work quite a bit better on the Incredible compared to the N1 with less chance of an unsuccessful press.
- I didn't notice a huge difference in the touchscreens like I had read about. I didn't try the multitouch test.
- Scrolling between home screens didn't seem as fast as my N1, but I am running a custom ROM and kernel on the N1.
- I like the trackball on the N1 a lot more than the optical sensor on the Incredible. It wasn't very smooth rubbing your finger over the optical sensor. The interface between the sensor and the phone casing was a little rough. The trackball is definitely smoother.
Overall I am happy having an N1 and, if it ever existed, I have lost all Incredible envy.
I'm in Canada so I'll most likely never see one of these guys.
How much were they selling for no contract at Best Buy?
I felt the exact same when I looked at it, in fact, I hated the optical track pad also, n1 scrolled wayyyyy faster with it, and pushint it in is hard on the incredible, but Still I welcome it to the family
I love the trackball. I don't know why so many don't like it. optical track pad just seems like it would be a pain.
I found a trick for the nexus track ball, if you just give it a super hard swipe, it will go clear across an entire sentence me text in one swoop. I see people complain its too slow but its not if you give it a really fast swipe.
I just played with the incredible this morning. first thought is the track pad is horrible compared to the track ball. no matter how fast I swipe my finger, it only moves the cursor a few letters. the nexus track ball will move an entire sentence, like 7 words, if you give it one fast swipe.
the incredible is very light weight, but it just feels plasticky compared to the nexus. the nexus feels like a high quality appliance to me, no contest imo.
the speed of the OS felt pretty much the same. I'm running stock ROM on my nexus, not yet rooted (but I will soon enough!).
overall I can't believe anyone would even feel remotely bad about having the incredible released with slightly better specs, the nexus seems like the better phone to me in every way. the one thing I would like is the dual led flash. I don't care about the 8 gb memory or 8 mp camera one bit. but the extra flash would be nice for those random times when you need that photo in a bar or something, cause the nexus single led isn't very good.
ill take the dual mics over the dual flash though
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overall I can't believe anyone would even feel remotely bad about having the incredible released with slightly better specs, the nexus seems like the better phone to me in every way. the one thing I would like is the dual led flash. I don't care about the 8 gb memory or 8 mp camera one bit. but the extra flash would be nice for those random times when you need that photo in a bar or something, cause the nexus single led isn't very good.
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The only people who feel bad about the Incredible being slightly better are the whiners.
IE the people who weren't happy with the Nexus One even without any other similar device having been announced yet.
NO PHONE is perfect.
Case in point: The Incredible, despite having slightly better hardware, feels cheap and is ugly / boring.
How about we wait until FroYo gets (leaked) and we have it first?
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The only people who feel bad about the Incredible being slightly better are the whiners.
IE the people who weren't happy with the Nexus One even without any other similar device having been announced yet.
NO PHONE is perfect.
Case in point: The Incredible, despite having slightly better hardware, feels cheap and is ugly / boring.
How about we wait until FroYo gets (leaked) and we have it first?
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This should be the banner of the N1 forum that everyone see's before they post
Paul22000 said:
The only people who feel bad about the Incredible being slightly better are the whiners.
IE the people who weren't happy with the Nexus One even without any other similar device having been announced yet.
NO PHONE is perfect.
Case in point: The Incredible, despite having slightly better hardware, feels cheap and is ugly / boring.
How about we wait until FroYo gets (leaked) and we have it first?
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I really wanted to disagree with that post to not seem like an N1 fanboy, but I agree.. the Incredible is a giant plastic brick, we will get updates first, and the hardware is only slightly upgraded. It is Incredible, but if you have a Nexus.. its not worth switching over to.
If the Incredible does get developer support, and Froyo gets ported.. then.. um.. maybe we should be worried then. What if Froyo is released quickly for it? We won't have much to brag about but developer support, and.. sexiness? And then if it gets developer support, as much as we have, then it will really be a problem. They may have took root security measures like on the Desire and Legend though, so it may not even matter.
that's what I'm saying, the nexus is such a better built phone that I don't care if the incredible has a 5 gHz CPU, I'd always take the nexus every time.
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that's what I'm saying, the nexus is such a better built phone that I don't care if the incredible has a 5 gHz CPU, I'd always take the nexus every time.
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Did I smell a touch of sarcasm there? you honestly will dump a 5GHz CPU for the nexus?? There is too much love in here guys!
well I was being half sarcastic, but not totally to be honest. sit a nexus next to an incredible and tell me "pick on for free and It's yours, but only one" and I would take the nexus every time no question.
The Nexus One is the first phone I've ever owned that I have no envy of any future phones. It fulfills every single need I have and I can see myself using it beyond 2 years. It's THAT good.
Yup. I agree with above poster. I've never had the latest and greatest and nothing available better. And there won't be for a while, in Canada. I am by no means regretting my purchase and am absolutely in love with the Nexus One. I haven't put it down since I got it 2 and a half weeks ago.
If you have one, love it. If not, then sell it and get yourself an Incredible. Then regret switching.
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the only thing that really annoys me about the phone is battery life. but i guess this is something that no smartphone will do any better in the forseeable future.
I played with an Incredible at a verizon store yesterday. It does seem thinner and snappier.
Still prefer the stock UI.
Biggest sense plus is the exchange server support.
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the only thing that really annoys me about the phone is battery life. but i guess this is something that no smartphone will do any better in the forseeable future.
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have you tried that GSM Auto (PRL) setting in the other thread? it really seems to work. i have had HORRIBLE battery life for the last month. my battery would die in about 5 hours or maybe 6. so far with this new setting, i am at 4 hours and still at 85%. its made a huge difference so far. but i'm still testing to really know.
battery life is not _horrible_ for me, but it's not great either.
i do have the extended 2800 mAh battery from SEIDO, and i manage to get 3 days out of it. now if this were the performance with the stock battery, i would be a happy camper.
I am on my 3rd Dinc replacement, I always seem to get duds. I have an option to get the Droid X instead of yet another refurb'd Dinc.
First, what I do/dont do with my phone.
I use GPS voice nav all the time.
I load it up with my audio books
I dont use widgets, dont do facebook, etc.
I use the camera and camcorder to take pics and videos of my kids, and I do alot of texting, sending pics/etc.
Surf the web, but I dont watch videos on the phone at all.
I use a BT headset.
I dont play games on it at all.
Could care less if the phone is rooted or not, I am rooted but I use LauncherPro so I dont have to deal with the bloated Sensi UI.
I dont have more than 6 apps downloaded from the market.
I hate the absolute ****ty battery the Dinc has.
Going on that info, is the Droid X going to give more problems (been reading up on battery, volume levels, etc) than the Dinc?, can the Droid X be considered a similar phone to what I have, except it does have that big ass screen. I have played with one for a few minutes, it is large, I can see things better on that big screen, and that screen size is the only thing that is even making me consider getting that phone.
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the droid x is a great phone all those things you mentioned that you like to do the droid x will do and ask for more.i have used mine for 12hr on one charge not heavy use just some videos,marketplace,texting,camera.
btw: the amoled screen on the incredible is not visable in sunlight.
I am very happy that I made the switch, the two things I miss most are some of the sense widgets and root, neither of which seem to be an issue for you. The screen is amazing, the camera is amazing and the battery is an improvement. All in all it's a great phone and I couldn't be happier with it, well maybe with root, but I'm not getting my hopes up anytime soon.
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btw: the amoled screen on the incredible is not visable in sunlight.
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Did you even have an Incredible? Yes, it's not the easiest to see in sunlight, but it certainly isn't "invisible", please.
To the OP, I am still trying to decide if I am going to keep my X, or go back to my Incredible. The X seems to get a little better signal then the Incredible, and it certainly works better with my Motorola T505, that I use to listen to my music through my car stereo, but it's big. I don't know if I like the feel of it in my hand. The Incredible, is a nice size, and fits perfect, in pocket, and in hand. Maybe the answer will be the 4" Samsung Galaxy S, when that arrives at Verizon. Anyway, I wish I could give you a more definitive answer, but it's only been a few days, and I'm still giving the X a chance, before I decide which on to stay with.
I think the HTC phone despite screen size and battery life is better. The DroidX screen is horribly washed out. Even compared to other phones including the Evo.
There are things that Sense manages even if you use a different launcher that the X does not have.
Simple things like SMS/Gmail icon notifications on the X are non-existent.
You can't use contact pictures from exchange, the facebook integration with contacts is X is a joke compared to HTC.
The contact UI in sense is much better and easier to manage than the X.
The camera on the INC is faster in low light and does not turn pictures yellow like the Motorola. The Motorola lock screen is slow and buggy.
The HTC just provides a more complete experience out of the box without having to download a bunch of crap to get everything the way you want.
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dont tell me that the screen is visable in direct sunlight because i did have one and your full of it if you say that you can read everything on the screen in direct sunlight.
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dont tell me that the screen is visable in direct sunlight because i did have one and your full of it if you say that you can read everything on the screen in direct sunlight.
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Not only can I see it in direct sunlight, I can do it with sunglasses on.
ok whatever you say.
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ok whatever you say.
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Learn to turn up the brightness on your display...
The Droid Incredible and Nexus One have identical displays and I can see my Nexus One fine in direct sunlight when I have brightness on 100%. Once I start turning down the brightness, the visibility fades exponentially.
If you compare, the x is much more advanced and snappier than the incredible. Let's say you don't need noise cancellation and the nifty features of the cameras audio and video capture. Then yeah your cool with the incredible, essentially they're the same. Just the x has a larger display.
Also, if you sit and think, every android has a little more than this one, others have less, more have innovative inserts like the x, and others are just pretty like the droid incredible and the htc evo. This all boils down to what you feel suits your needs.
Oh btw, verizon is releasing froyo in a few weeks. For the droid, incredible, droidx, and droid 2. BGR just got the tip for it. Its on twitter. Damn, verizon really really like to be dominant. Like they see no other alternative but to be great.
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I must agree with pima. I absolutely love my Inc (I also bought the X and am deciding which to keep), but it is extremely difficult (for me anyways) to read things like text messages on it when outside in direct sunlight on a bright day, even when I set brightness all the way up.
Sense definitely runs more smoothly than Motoblur, however I don't care for either and can't comprehend why Motorola or HTC would want to try to fix something that is not broken. It's maddening that OS updates are held up for months because of this. I long for a phone that doesn't force me to use it's manufacturer's UI (and is less glitchy than the N1). But I digress...
I see enormous potential in the X's camera, but find it to be very frustrating in it's current form. For example, I couldn't use Barcode Scanner yesterday because the auto-focus kept zooming in and out; therefore, the camera couldn't focus on a barcode long enough to get a scan (the same phenomenon resulted in inconsistent pic's). Luckily, this is undoubtedly a software issue the should be resolved in short order through an OTA update (this may well be fixed in the update that is being rolled out today).
I love the X's keyboard. I actually also liked the Inc's keyboard relative to my previous phone, the N1. However, the X's keyboard is the best I've used on a smartphone (and I also owned an iphone 3gs at one low point in my life).
The X's battery is way better than the Inc's in my opinion. I get more life from it than I did from the 2150 extended battery I bought from HTC.
I can defintely empathize with oldmacnut's dilemma. Both phones have clear advantages/disadvantages. I'm finding that rooting/unlocking are more important to me than i realized, so I will likely go back to the Inc. However, if was in the OP's shoes I would probably go with the X, especially considering that its bugs are fixable and Froyo update is coming soon.
I came over to the x from the dinc myself, if u aren't rooting i'd go with the x. The hi is actually a little more gittery on the x but the biggest difference i can notice is the actual power of the proccessor on the x, not just clock speed. The x can run games that would make my dinc choke up and freeze. Look at the quadrant benchmarks. Its freakin rediculous. The dinc is a AWESOME phone. The build quality feels superior on the x and it really comes down to what fits u best. I can say i miss the DInc but i don't regret getting the x. Goodluck, this cud b a tough decision.
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After today, I decided that the X is just too big for my liking. I reactivated my Incredible, and tomorrow, I'm shipping the X back to Verizon.
my wife
spotmark said:
After today, I decided that the X is just too big for my liking. I reactivated my Incredible, and tomorrow, I'm shipping the X back to Verizon.
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come on man really you sound like my wife
This phone is huge... I just had to get a magnum case for it, the normal sized case fits too tight
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come on man really you sound like my wife
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I know, she tells me that all the time, too.
But, seriously, it's just too big to use with one hand. I predict, that we will start hearing about people dropping their X while trying to use it one handed.
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dont tell me that the screen is visable in direct sunlight because i did have one and your full of it if you say that you can read everything on the screen in direct sunlight.
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I did perfectly fine in sunlight...make sure the auto brightness is checked and you will be fine. Had the Incredible for 2 months...Now have the X, and I would say the X is may be a little bit better in sunlight, but NOT by much... Incredible size is better.. X is just TOO big.
I am starting to wonder if I should keep the X. May like the dinc more
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They are both great devices. I had the choice of either or and I choose the Dinc. It's an HTC thing. IMO I think HTC has the best smartphones available period. Motorola choose to encrypt the bootlooder and imo that's extremely lame. Sure it may not matter to the average Joe but it's still sneaky.
I also have both and am still undecided which I prefer. As far as both out the box it depends on wether you're new to android or not. HTC Sense is very user friendly and I love the wigdgets. Motoblur is a bit laggy and the widgets aren't bad but not as good aa HTC. Performance in my opinion is about equal except games. The X is definitely superior although I never have a problem with the Inc. The Incs camera is slightly better but not much. I could go on but I think it comes down to root. I love to customize and make my phone unique. With the X it looks like that will be hard and the Inc is already rooted. And the X is really big but not uncomfortably so although I prefer the size of the Inc. So like I said before they're both great devices so I think root is really the deciding factor. Once the X is rooted it will probably be far superior.
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Hey guys, so i have a unique opportunity that ive been given, i could if i want trade in my incredible for a Droid X, because my friend has a 2 year upgrade available and he really wants an incredible, so he told me he was fine with buying a Droid X with the upgrade and then me and him just swap phones
I know that in general, the phones are very close performers, however im just looking at one specific thing here and that is the Camera that both utilize... HTCs is 8 megapixels and Motorolas is also 8 Megapixels... both are also capable of taking 720p videos so on paper they would seem to be idential, however we know thats not the case
Alot of users have reported that the HTC Incredible / Evo Camera while taking 720p video is rather mediocre and sub-par to what youd expect, and that it also suffers from a low FPS video capture using that resolution... So i was wondering if the Motorola solution is the same way or does that 8MP Camera that they utilize in the Droid X a superior one to that of the DINC?
Honestly, the camera and video performance has been a phenomenal experience on the incredible. Your dealing with a phone here and the differences between the two (if there are) will be quite slim. Sure if you put the two side by side, you may see a difference however it's not going to be replacing your point-and-shoot camera or DSLR.
If you're stuck deciding between the two I'd highly suggest you take a look at what's going to feel better for yourself whether it be the size/form factor or the software that your dealing with/ whether or not you want to be able to have the ability to switch roms.
If you absolutely don't care and the decision maker comes down to the camera, honestly, either one will be a fantastic choice -- I just suggest rethinking where you are on the fence about the phones.
Its not just a camera... however the Droid X's size does not bother me at all, ive been tinkering with them in the verizon stores for awile now and havent been dissapointed..
FYI i went into a Verizon store today and went to one of the Droid X's up on display and installed Quadrant Benchmark on it from the market and right off the display shelf it did a 1200 quadrant score... and thats running a 2.1 rom fully stock with no modification.... 1200s is what we incredible owners are hitting running FROYO and custom roms, that won me over... the Droid X is just a better performer
good luck with the locked bootloader
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good luck with the locked bootloader
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Thats the one downside that im fully aware of... coming from a rooted and rom'd incredible
Honestly, benchmarks don't mean ****. I've used both and I can tell you, without a doubt, the incredible is faster, smoother, and all around nicer to look at.
On paper the X seems like it should perform MUCH better than the Incredible (sorry... OMAP vs. Qualcomm ANYTHING... OMAP wins), but yeah in having an incredible and spending a decent amount of time with the X, the X seemed noticeably slower in a few things. For one, just swiping left and right between home screens, the Inc is butter smooth, the X animates far more choppy... even my wife noticed this, and she is not the kind of person who cares about that kind of stuff. Also, opening apps, often the Inc would open faster, usually by less than a second, but still. I also had a hard time getting a steady shot with the camera.
of course, the bigger screen is very nice, and dedicated camera button should be f'ing mandatory these days (HTC!!). For gaming, the X is going to stomp the Inc (though, they both bow down to the Galaxy S).
It's all personal preference, but having tried the X, I don't regret having the Inc.
Yeah the incredible is smoother. I ran bench mark on my incredible and it ranked higher than the x. So i guess bench mark can be inconsistent
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You are either an HTC person or not.
I had both and had to dump the X because exchange support is loaded with bugs and notifications are broken.
HTC licenses active sync so exchange support is flawless.
I also found the white level control on the HTC to be far superior.
The Motorola is always shooting with a yellow cast to the pictures.
Low light the HTC has better color but the noise reduction is out of control.
I also think the HTC camera is faster.
Motorola has the edge on the gallery scrolling, its much faster. HTC is like slow motion compared.
HTC is more of a software company than Motorola and it shows.
You have to load at least 5 apps on the Motorola to get most of the functionality you do with Sense, including a launcher which completely defeats the point of Moto Blur.
Little things like icon notifications for gmail and exchange are built into sense.
You have to download a GMAIL notifier app for the Motorola and you dont have a way to get icon notifications on exchange at all on the Motorola.
Little nuances add up big time which is why despite the small size the Incredible is a better overall phone right now.
X had dedicated GPU.
I love the formfactor for the DINC, but if I had a choice to switch... I would just switch with his old crappy phone for now and give him the dINC, then wait for the verizon galaxy S to drop and upgrade to that.
I do love my X, but I have grown a little tired of the size and form factor. I am a little worried I might be disappointed with the battery life and a possible resale value on the INC if I do make the switch.
Anyone had a good experience going to the INC form the X?
I haven't had an X myself but I don't know why you should be concerned about resale value..you're using the phone.
The form factor of the DX sucks IMO, it's bulky and ugly.
The Incredible's screen is much nicer quality too, even the SLCD version. When comparing the screen sizes it's like quantity vs. quality.
If you're into custom ROMs and such, the INC is a great phone.
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I haven't had an X myself but I don't know why you should be concerned about resale value..you're using the phone.
The form factor of the DX sucks IMO, it's bulky and ugly.
The Incredible's screen is much nicer quality too, even the SLCD version. When comparing the screen sizes it's like quantity vs. quality.
If you're into custom ROMs and such, the INC is a great phone.
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Only thinking about resale to help me buy a new phone when some newer versions come out (I had used the new every 2, even though its gone now, on X release date).
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I am a little worried I might be disappointed with the battery life and a possible resale value on the INC if I do make the switch.
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I can assure you not to worry about the resale value because, INC has a higher resale value than DX. INC is about $152 while DX is only about $96.
Check it out here!
https://www.trade-in.vzw.com/Home.aspx
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I can assure you not to worry about the resale value because, INC has a higher resale value than DX. INC is about $152 while DX is only about $96.
Check it out here!
https://www.trade-in.vzw.com/Home.aspx
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Hrmm I wonder why that is. I have been trying to look at what people are selling these for in the forums.
I had the x and switched to the dinc. HTC does a way better job with Android if you ask me. The community does much better with HTC devices as well. Sense is a must have for me as well.
Even though the evo sold mass amount of phones, I think its too big. I the x was just as big and drove me crazy. I like the size of the dinc. With the evos 1500 mAh battery in my dinc, I can last all day no problem.
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I had an X and returned it for an Incredible. Part of the reason was because the Incredible was free and the X had cost me $200. That said, the Incredible feels faster, even with slightly slower hardware, thanks to HTC's superior software. Motorola's software package is pretty terrible.
I made that switch. The battery life is definitely worse on the incredible. I missed the big screen at first. Made the incredible seem extra small coming from the X. I have an slcd incredible and even that screen seems to have much more contrast than the Droid x. I like running cyanogenmod and custom kernels so im enjoying the incredible.
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I had the x and switched to the dinc. HTC does a way better job with Android if you ask me. The community does much better with HTC devices as well. Sense is a must have for me as well.
Even though the evo sold mass amount of phones, I think its too big. I the x was just as big and drove me crazy. I like the size of the dinc. With the evos 1500 mAh battery in my dinc, I can last all day no problem.
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Wait a minute! The Evo battery fits the DInc? Please confirm!
I'm actually confused myself. On htcpedia there is the 1500mah for $40 for the incredible .... but the 1500mah for the evo is $30... are they the same and does it matter?
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Wait a minute! The Evo battery fits the DInc? Please confirm!
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Yes.
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X might be a nice phone but with a locked bootloader that's harder to get in than Fort knox...no thanks I will stick with my Incredible
I went from an Incredible to an X back to the Incredible
The X had nothing but issues, and screen wasn't nearly as gorgeous as the AMOLED one.
The Sense UI is the best UI you can get for Android, in my opinion hands down the best.
The hardware of the Incredible feels faster too like another poster said, on the X my friend and I were in a parking garage waiting to get a GPS signal, i pulled my Incredible out and mine found our location when the X was still looking for 10 more mins.
The X is also too tall, it doesn't use the right screen ratio like the EVO and ThunderBolt will.
The developer community is the best on EVO/Incredible vs Droid 1/2/X
and I also develop themes for Incredible which i'll be moving on to ThunderBolt
I just got an inc keeping my x to try this out. Only two things so far I don't like:
-can see the touchscreen sensors on a white background(emails or web usually)
-touch screen isn't quite as accurate as the x
-there was a hair under the glass screen. Looks like the screen isn't that tight around the body. Compressed air blew it right out though.
On a positive sense KILLS blur! The overall feel is great, better widgets, comfortable formfactor.
I had an X until 2 weeks ago. I miss it... The screen size is enough for me to be trying to get it back. I have BIG hands and I could fly texting on my X but on this, Im hitting backspace more than any other key, even with auto correct. The reason I traded was to be able to customize more which is definitely better. Another issue is with games. The Inc is slow to respond and it glitches and pauses all the time playing homerun battle 3d. The X NEVER did that. I don't know, they both have their positives and negatives but my hands alone are the reason I'm trying to trade back to an X. BUT I will come back to HTC when the Thunderbolt comes out. NO DOUBT, cause sense destroys blur. always had to use Luancherpro on the X but never on the Inc because of the custom roms...
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I just got an inc keeping my x to try this out. Only two things so far I don't like:
-can see the touchscreen sensors on a white background(emails or web usually)
-touch screen isn't quite as accurate as the x
-there was a hair under the glass screen. Looks like the screen isn't that tight around the body. Compressed air blew it right out though.
On a positive sense KILLS blur! The overall feel is great, better widgets, comfortable formfactor.
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What do you mean by the touch screen isn't as accurate? My friend and my cousin both have the X, my brother has the Fascinate, and I have the Incredible. I've used all 3 phones extensively and in my experience, the X has the least responsive touch screen of all. Do you mean accuracy as in trying to click on small links on web pages or something? If that's the case it might just be because the screen is smaller; if you're having trouble you could try highlighting the link or button that you want to click with the trackpad.
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i have the droid incredible and i bought the droid x on the week it came out.
Immiatlely i was dissappointed at the same time some things were great.
The low audio on the navigation even with the windows up made it unusable with turn by turn directions... im sure they fixed this.
The ****ty Moto UI = **** sammitch.
The below average quality of the lcd, it looked washed out and bland compared to my incredible.
The large 4.3 inch screen was awesome to surf on.
it was thin for a large phone.
It was new.
I have had many phones in the past and none of them gave me the same kind of user experience as HTC and sadly the iphone.
If i was technically retarded and was an old woman i would have kept my iphone..
But nobody besides HTC has made a better phone AND UI...
Samsung UI = **** , hardware = ok, software updates = ****
Motorola UI = **** see above
LG = **** **** and more ****
Sony = erickson = ****
nokia = failing ball of **** sammitch.. check their stocks.
Blackberry = corporate fail, good comm device.. everything else is 10 years behind.
iphone = boring plus your instantly enrolled in a group of 10 year olds and wanna be tech folks ... and mothers...any phone an old woman is comfortable using is a phone i do not want.
Well I had to trade the INC back because there was dust collecting under the screen. I am absolutely in LOVE with the phone compared to the X. But the big question I can't decide on now is:
Do I sell my X and go buy an INC retail so I at least have a 1 year warranty on it or buy one used and hope for the best (buying a new one would probably cost me 230 or so).
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I had an X until 2 weeks ago. I miss it... The screen size is enough for me to be trying to get it back. I have BIG hands and I could fly texting on my X but on this, Im hitting backspace more than any other key, even with auto correct. The reason I traded was to be able to customize more which is definitely better. Another issue is with games. The Inc is slow to respond and it glitches and pauses all the time playing homerun battle 3d. The X NEVER did that. I don't know, they both have their positives and negatives but my hands alone are the reason I'm trying to trade back to an X. BUT I will come back to HTC when the Thunderbolt comes out. NO DOUBT, cause sense destroys blur. always had to use Luancherpro on the X but never on the Inc because of the custom roms...
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Yeah games was the only thing, but I haven't played one game on my X except for paper toss. Not such a big deal to me.
I started on an X... rooted it, ROMed it (to the extent that it can be, anyway), and tried to be patient while the devs cracked the boot...and got tired of waiting. I traded it to a friend straight up for an AMOLED DInc after 3 months, and seriously, there's no comparison. I love the freedom to load CM, or Ruby, or SkyRaider on my phone. I love the ability to remap the soft keys on my HTC or use QuickDesk or PowerStrip (neither of them can be done on the X due to the locking down of the hard keys by Moto).
The only two things that I miss about the X are the bigger screen, which I really liked, and the fact that Moto's build quality is very good (it always has been), but that is it. I'll never buy another motorola product ever again unless I hear that it is open- and not because I'm some sort of super-dev, either- simply because I get better support from the dev community whose ROMs I run when I have a problem than I've ever gotten from Moto or Verizon.
The X had pretty impressive specs, but it was absolutely weighted down under Blur... SOOOO slow. I didn't even realize how slow it was until I rooted and ROMed it using rubiX, which is truly an awesome ROM considering how locked the X is, but even then it really had a lot of stupid issues (random rebooting, etc.). Then once I found out that I couldn't connect to the 802.1x wifi at my school (a known motorola issue which STILL has yet to be fixed on the DX and D2), it was over.
I've gone DInc and never regretted it.
As far as the screen, I really think that SLCD vs. AMOLED is personal preference. The colors on AMOLED are suuuuper saturated, very "thick" looking to my eyes. I don't mind SLCD screen colors or look at all, but they're definitely toned down compared to AMOLED.
What about the processor speed? Well, both of them have 1gHz processors, and with the current battery technology we have right now, I really wouldn't want much more than a that- anything faster just eats battery, really. I get some lulz from all the spec queens out there who OC their phones to 1.5 and higher, and who have to have the latest dual-core processors- they're going to spend their whole lives plugged in to the wall cuz their batteries won't last 6 hours, and then complain about bad battery life. My 1gHz snapdragon loads pages, flash, and videos from the web with no problem. I've seen the AnandTech reviews about the DX's processor being slightly faster than the DInc's, but then you have to consider Blur and (REALLY) crappy Moto software and bloat (VZW navigator, Visual Voicemail, City ID, etc.) slowing everything down again. My CM7 / ADW EX DInc is hella snappy, and I get through almost 36 hours per charge (HTC Imagio 1700mAh battery) with frequent use. No OC/UCing, totally stock.
I AM looking forward to LTE tho. That should be a real improvement. Anyway, I'm off the soapbox. Hope this helped? I dunno. I'm sittin here drinkin coffee and saw this thread. Good luck.
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I came from the samsung captivate with high hopes and well I have noticed a few things the i would rather have over the atrix
one would be the screen, items like the opening screen to the xda app comes out pixaled
the overal make of the phone is I would say is cheap compared to the captivate. It feels as it would break on the first drop not to mention the plastic back cover feel as if it would break after a few openings. Overall I am content with it but not as happy as expected
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Agree here. Regret to have my inspire sold.
I'm pretty happy with it, coming from an iPhone 4 (and an Evo.)
Pros:
- Screen looks great, pretty close to my i4. Yeah, if I touch my nose to the glass, I can see pixels. I'm also fine with the screen not being AMOLED over-saturated. My regular laptop isn't, my PC isn't, my Atrix lapdock isn't, my i4 isn't, my Evo isn't, my HDTV's aren't, so it doesn't really bother me that the phone looks exactly the same as everything else I own.
- It is quite fast. As an example, I tend to install or update multiple apps at once, and on my Evo (which was overclocked), it would drag the phone to being nearly unresponsive having more than 1 thing going at once.
- I'm digging the accessories so far. The DLNA feature has been great for grabbing stuff from my media server and displaying it in 720p on my TV. It's not 1080 yet, but it still looks quite good. The browser works well on the TV as well. The lapdock has been quite nifty so far as well. Barring Windows games, I've had no problem doing everything else I use my standalone laptop for.
- Battery has been amazing, compared to either my Evo or i4.
- Fingerprint scanner works extremely well, I was surprised by this, pleasantly.
- The on-screen keyboard is fantastic, right up there with the i4. Far better than any other Android I've owned to date (which is quite a few.)
Cons:
- When flipping through the screens on the phone, it hasn't been all that smooth, even after a fresh boot. It's not bad, but its like my Evo, circa launch day, prior to mods to improve its responsiveness. Might be Motoblur related?
- Data uplink is killing my latency, which if it isn't something that is fixed relatively soon, could actually be a deal breaker for me, since I do like to tether to play stuff like Bad Company 2 while at work... 130ms latency on my Evo is okay, 400 on the Atrix... isn't.
- This might sound odd, but it's so smooth that it is slippery as hell. I've had a few miraculous catches following the phone just sliding right out of my hand.
- When grabbing media for my server, I have to copy it via DLNA to the device first, THEN play it, when using the Webtop OS in either the entertainment or lapdocks. I have a feeling this will come down to someone making a crafty software fix, but who knows.
- The lapdock needs a way to hide the icon bar at the bottom to expand the browser window. If you try a Facebook game, you can't quite fit the whole game window into view, and there are other things that have a similar issue.
Overall I'm pretty happy with it, and it seems like most of the issues I have can be solved in software, one way or another.
No stock UI works that well other than Sense. I suggest getting ADW launcher and theme it like your stock UI. Its very smooth side to side etc.
One thing I noticed - this phone is flat out HORRIBLE with UI animations such as the gingerbread launcher. My captivates UI speed blows this out of the water.
They need to fix that asap.
Pretty happy so far.
Im pretty happy with it so far. I came from the LG Expo which was a WM 6.5 device. This is my first Android phone, so it was a pretty big upgrade.
If there is one thing I am slightly disappointed in is the phone's ram. The "1gb" of ram appears to be split in half between the phone and the web top environment, so either one can only access 512mb at any one time. I'm only slightly disappointed because I expected it. It's another case of misleading, but not totally false advertising...now, about my missing "G" in network speed....
Also from iPhone 4. Still haven't decided if I am going to keep it yet, overall the phone is really nice, but it still just doesn't feel as smooth/fluid/solid as the iPhone. I was really hoping a nice Tegra 2 chip would make things smooth on Android but alas I was still disappointed. The phone is fast don't get me wrong, but the UI still has plenty of places that are just ... chunky. Overall build quality of the phone is also nice, but it still doesn't feel nearly as solid in my hand as the iPhone does.
I like the phone just not sure I like it tons better than my captivate. I think a lot of people that downplay samoled screens have never owned one. Its very tough going back. Overall my phone flys using launcher pro plus with 3d animations. No slow Downs or chunkiness whatsoever.
I'm definitely happy. I @so came from the Captivate and there isn't anything I would change.
I LOVE the fact that the pixel Dr/ity is larger, therefore making everything smaller. today is going to be the first day I see how it performs out in the realworld so I hope that goes well
I'm thinking about picking up the laptock dock since you can tether for free as well... might wait a while though since I don't need it now.
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I'm unimpressed. Of course it's fast but not noticeably faster than the inspire. I really want to keep this phone and use it as my main device but it's not looking good right now. The touch screen isn't as responsive as the captivate or the inspire. When I try to fly through things, I find the phone missing registered touches. At first, I just thought I need to get used to this device but I could do this on the inspire and captivate with no problem at all. I'm going to give this more time so we'll see how it goes. Another thing I noticed, Motorola has a load of crap that runs on the device that I'll never use (see running services) and it takes up a significant amount of memory. It'd be a pain to go through and manually end these services. Even after using a task killer, most of the services persisted.
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Coming from the Nexus One, which is still regarded as the baseline for a good Android device, I'd have to say I'm pretty happy with it, no regrets at all in selling my N1 to get this. Yes, I do sorely miss the stock UI and being in that comfort zone that I'll be first to get updates (even though Google has been slacking lately). With that said, the pros out number the cons.
Pros
- BLOODY fast
- Battery is 1000x better than the Nexus One. I can go a whole day on one charge and it's not an iPhone? Say it ain't so
- Screen is 1000x better than the Nexus One, and very, very close to my wife's iPhone 4
I don't know what the guy above is smoking, but the Atrix is a 1000X better than the Captivate in terms of build quality. I was sorta anxious about it being all plastic, but the phone feels rock solid. With an Otter Box Commuter on the way, I doubt I'll ever notice it was any different than my ex-N1 (with a Commuter case as well).
Neutral
- The phone isn't the prettiest, but certainly nice.
Cons
- Motoblur adds some nice touches, but overall it's slow. I'm using LauncherPro Plus which is getting me back some of my sanity.
- Doesn't come with Gingerbread out of the box :-(
- Power button location sucks
- Volume buttons are on wrong side :-(
- I know people hate trackball, but until Gingerbread makes it out to the Atrix, copy-n-paste SUCKS
I prefer this phone over my captivate 10 fold. The screen is not a big issue to me as a lot of times on the captivate screen peoples faces always had a tint of red to them. Over saturation is over saturation no matter how you look at it. The phone is also super fast in UI transitions for me and is worlds better then the captivate in that respect. Motoblur home UI used to cause all sorts of slow down but switching to launcher pro fixed all of those issues. The phone is really quick and snappy. The XDA load screen is pixelated i would assume because it is a lower res image in the first place. Also why is that even important? it's just a load screen?
Some people are just trying too hard to find any excuse to hate the phone.
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The XDA load screen is pixelated i would assume because it is a lower res image in the first place. Also why is that even important? it's just a load screen?
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Coming from a Nexus One (which btw was a great phone in its own right), and having had a plethora of phones including an iPhone 4 and a Captivate, I am very happy with the Atrix.
There are a lot of people making a big deal of AMOLED vs LCD. What I'd like to add is that it really is COMPLETELY A MATTER OF PERSONAL PREFERENCE! I, for one, prefer the more natural tones and higher brightness of an LCD display, but do see the draw of the higher contrast AMOLED. There are valid arguments for the pros and cons of both types of displays, and it really is best to see the two side by side in various environments to determine what works best for you.
Moving right along to the data speed: I've read a lot of posts about the data being capped and slower than 3g phones, but this has not been my experience! I used the new SIM they sent me and made sure I was on the 4G plan, and now my downloads are consistently faster than they are on the N1 and even faster than the iPhone (funny how that the iPhone still sets the benchmark).
Lastly, I want to address the performance of the phone: I think it's phenomenal! I did root and replace the stock launcher right away, but besides that everything is stock. The phone is super responsive. The transitions are seamless. Everything works great with one exception - the lock screen which takes a second to come up.
To wrap up, I think the Atrix is a very nice upgrade to my N1 and that Motorola hit a home run with this phone. Granted, we won't realize it's full potential for a few months, but I believe that the Atrix is a great platform and will have superb development support from the community!
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Coming from a Nexus One (which btw was a great phone in its own right), and having had a plethora of phones including an iPhone 4 and a Captivate, I am very happy with the Atrix.
There are a lot of people making a big deal of AMOLED vs LCD. What I'd like to add is that it really is COMPLETELY A MATTER OF PERSONAL PREFERENCE! I, for one, prefer the more natural tones and higher brightness of an LCD display, but do see the draw of the higher contrast AMOLED. There are valid arguments for the pros and cons of both types of displays, and it really is best to see the two side by side in various environments to determine what works best for you.
Moving right along to the data speed: I've read a lot of posts about the data being capped and slower than 3g phones, but this has not been my experience! I used the new SIM they sent me and made sure I was on the 4G plan, and now my downloads are consistently faster than they are on the N1 and even faster than the iPhone (funny how that the iPhone still sets the benchmark).
Lastly, I want to address the performance of the phone: I think it's phenomenal! I did root and replace the stock launcher right away, but besides that everything is stock. The phone is super responsive. The transitions are seamless. Everything works great with one exception - the lock screen which takes a second to come up.
To wrap up, I think the Atrix is a very nice upgrade to my N1 and that Motorola hit a home run with this phone. Granted, we won't realize it's full potential for a few months, but I believe that the Atrix is a great platform and will have superb development support from the community!
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exactly, my phone pulls the same DL speeds I could get from my captivate in my area. The only thing I'm lacking is the upload speed.
Think I'm going back to my inspire.....on another note, the Atrix's GPS is STELLAR
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I'm extremely happy with mine. Coming from a ton of phones recently, including iP4, Captivate, Inspire, Surround among others. It may be the perfect size of phone/screen combo for me. Atrix is super fast and I'm good with the screen.
Everyone sees it's a pentile display and all of sudden it's garbage. I don't notice pixels. Sure, maybe if I got really close and squint my eyes I might. I'll never know because I don't spend all day trying to figure out how my phone sucks. Web page loads are faster than the Inspire for me.
Battery looks to be insanely good compared to the Inspire. I'd been using mine heavily since 10am yesterday googing around with it and playing games. I didn't plug it in when I went to bed and it still said 40% when I woke up. I realize that it goes in increments of 10, but that's pretty solid.
Sound quality is excellent! Talking on the phone shows really great audio quality for me. The biggest surprise was how loud/clear the speaker is for music and nav. I couldn't be happier with the phone.
Aaron J said:
If there is one thing I am slightly disappointed in is the phone's ram. The "1gb" of ram appears to be split in half between the phone and the web top environment, so either one can only access 512mb at any one time. I'm only slightly disappointed because I expected it. It's another case of misleading, but not totally false advertising...now, about my missing "G" in network speed....
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Hey, that's interesting. How did you come to this conclusion? I can't find any place in the settings that tells exactly how much RAM is in use/available.
Happy from aa TP2 but furious about what I paid for. Horrible Service no, Signed bootloader. Capped 3g Speeds, forget about 4g that is non existent where I live although it says 4G+
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Happy from aa TP2 but furious about what I paid for. Horrible Service no, Signed bootloader. Capped 3g Speeds, forget about 4g that is non existent where I live although it says 4G+
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Just curious why you bought it if your service is so bad? We all knew the bootloader was going to be locked down because it's Moto.
I found the Inspire to be light years ahead of the Captivate, and the Atrix to be just a notch above the Inspire. Also, I like the Atrix's skinned version of Swype. I honestly didn't even know it came with Swype until last night. I was using stock the whole time. lol
As for the iPhone 4, I can see why some aren't as impressed. When it comes down to it, no phone on the market can match its polish. Some come close, but none match. For me, I just prefer Android over iOS.
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