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I will have a droid x tomorrow as it was a replacement. In the mean time I bought a vibrant. I love the V but I also love the X!
I know this is V forum but I will also post this in the X forums to see if anyone there had to make a choice like mine!
If you had to choose, which one and why? WHY did you choose the V?
I assume that by being on XDA you'll want to play around with the phone and custom roms, the Droid X's locked bootloader will dampen the fun. Who knows when people will crack it, might be a month, might be a year.
Agreed with what tissimo said. In addition to that, Vibrant offers Super AMOLED Screen (colors are amazing), and 1GHz Hummingbird Processor. Which are pretty much the best specifications for an Android phone at the moment. Not to mention but its rumored that Verizon will be killing "unlimited data" in the future, so T-Mobile has the upper hand if Verizon goes on with that plan of going on capped data plans.
The screen of the Vibrant is perfect. I think 4.3'' is too big. It feels bad in my pocket. The screen of the X is very close to the edge of the phone (scares me). the semi-blur UI sucks compared to TouchWiz. Having the ability to change settings on the notification bar on the Vibrant rocks (and music controls).
But like everyone has, and will say.... Motorola pissed off the android world when they locked their bootloader like it was the holy grail. I would never buy a phone that I could not flash a custom ROM... and you saw how long it took them to get eclair on the droid, laughable. THANK GOD those with a droid could flash a custom rom (yeah Motorola, that helped you a lot, all of these wonderful developers doing your job).
Well I think the Vibrant is just about the perfect screen size. The Droid X just seems too big. Also, the Vibrant will almost assuredly have CM6 before the Droid X, if the X even gets it at all!
^ sadly, it will not.
after 5 failed cliqs i will never buy another motorola phone.. so no droid x for me.
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after 5 failed cliqs i will never buy another motorola phone.. so no droid x for me.
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Haha yeah I was never really impressed with any of Motorolas more fairly recent (last 3-5 years) build quality. RAZR anyone?
Motorola can suck it. I had the Cliq and had nothing but issues with it, not to mention it was so hard to hack. Motoblur is a horrid piece of software and burns through your battery. The vibrant is 100x better IMO.
Short answer, the Vibrant is the current heavyweight champion of the world. Nothing is better.
I went with Vibrant because I felt it was the best phone at the time, and because I hate Verizon. I love the Vibrant despite some initial bugs.
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I own a Vibrant and my co-worker just got a Droid X.
The screen alone on the V blows the X away, to top it off a unit with a 4" display just feels right, whereas 4.3" is overkill, the Droid X looks like a brick, but at the same token I am getting comments that my V is an iPhone rip-off.
As far as the performance is concerned, I felt the Vibrant was snappier especially with Launcher Pro instead of TouchWiz.
cons of X are: probably better support (maybe it will see Gingerbread), 2 noise canceling mics (although i dont know if they work good, Vibrant has 0), camera with dual flash.
Everything else goes to Vibrant......battery life (although i read X is also good), screen quality, size, speed, bluetooth 3.0 (whatever that does)...
X is already seeing updates with fixes, and will see 2.2 very soon........while 2.2 is also coming to Vibrant, nobody knows if its this month or maybe as late as November
I heard the camera is better on dx too. I think it comes down to what provider you can deal with. Verizon is pretty expensive.
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Droid X doesn't have an ARM processor (fail)
What you should really be asking yourself is incredible vs vibrant. Droid x is cute, but its hardware is lacking compared to either of these other phones. Not to mention Motorola phones have been difficult to mod even before the bootloader was locked.
I have to give it to Motorola that they made android way more popular in the USA than it used to be, but for anyone interested in custom ROMs or developing, they just don't compare.
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Short answer, the Vibrant is the current heavyweight champion of the world. Nothing is better.
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Vibrant is the heavyweight champ and literally weighs like nothing in your hand! All around such a great device!
I went into verizon the other day and played with the droid x for sum time and i have to say i didnt like it all that much. I have the vibrant and its perfect it gets a lil laggy sumtimes but what fones dont and if u root it and get setcpu runnin on it, it will be flawless trust me. and the Vibrant is Super AMOLED scratch resistant screen meanin u dont got to buy a screen protector
I'm down with both phones but once you play with the Vibrant's Amoled screen for a couple days it's difficult going back to LCD screens. It's that good.
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I heard the camera is better on dx too. I think it comes down to what provider you can deal with. Verizon is pretty expensive.
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Its about the same quality. More mps doesnt make it better. Vibrant has ton of in camera features, dont know about X
EDIT. iPhone, Sony, and Nokia cameras are the best on the market, the rest all have glitches here and there and all about the same quality....Vibrant camera is not sharp enough, maybe its a software glitch with auto focus or something...X camera pictures I believe come out noisy due to 8MP, Nexus One pictures lack color....
I'm hoping to get some help in making this decision by asking the expert community here at xda. I have a Fascinate now & while it's been fine in most aspects it seems to have connectivity issues with the stock email app. I live & work in a rural area & need this to work reliably. I'm coming from a Droid Eris that had no problem in this area. My 30 days isn't up yet so I can switch to something else if that will solve my problem. All Big Red has done so far is push new prls to the phone. Is the X better with 3g signal reception?
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Keep the fascinating ate. When its all said and done it will get much more attention from the dev community
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I had an X and have a Fascinate and i am considering going back. It is weird.
I like the feel of the fascinate in my hand better. Both devices had/have lag issues but the X seems to be not as bad as the fascinate on lag. I am not sure what I want to do. The Incredible seems to be the least laggy of the 3. I might hang on to the fascinate in hopes of cyanogen coming.
I am torn.
I appreciate the input. How have you found the signal strength of each? For me, it has to come down to day-to-day functionality first and I need to have the best possible connection for data.
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I think the X may be slightly better on reception.
Droid x is a solid phone, but depending on what you want to be able to do with your phone is what you should look at.
Ie, modding custom roms - Fascinate
Solid feel -Droid x
Locked boot loader- droid x
E fuze- droid x
Can you tell that im a little preferential ?
But seriously, the droid x is solid phone if you have no interest in running custom roms.
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I had an X and have a Fascinate and i am considering going back. It is weird.
I like the feel of the fascinate in my hand better. Both devices had/have lag issues but the X seems to be not as bad as the fascinate on lag. I am not sure what I want to do. The Incredible seems to be the least laggy of the 3. I might hang on to the fascinate in hopes of cyanogen coming.
I am torn.
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that about answers my question before even being asked
id go with fascinate
X vs Fascinate
I work in an office where everyone was on Berries or various iOS devices and have slowly been making converts of them all. Most of the guys here carry either Xs or Galaxy S variants for the different networks.
I have a Fascinate and honestly the biggest difference I have found between the two is peripheral support. Moto seems to do a much better job of getting "extra" hardware out and known.
Software wise it is WAY easier to work in and on the fascinate because there is no fear of tripping that fuze or fuse or whatever it is officially called. As far as performance goes, none of us really see much difference although the S seem to have brighter\crisper screens in a wider range of tests.
I've owned both phones, and I prefer the Fascinate. I like it better because it feels better in my hand, and in the end, I think it's going to be a lot more customizable.
Thanks for all the advice. Has anyone noticed any other issues with the Fascinate? How's call quality been? Battery life? Display? Camera? All these areas have threads in the X forums as well & what I'm seeing so far is alot more ex-X owners here than ex-Fascinate owners there. I guess that should tell me something.
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Well, to be fair, the Droid X has also been out longer than the Fascinate so it follows that there are fewer ex-Fascinate owners.
Another tricky thing to consider--the Droid X is going to be EOL'd (end of life) in March of 2011 according to an internal Verizon document leaked via droid-life. Presumably, Motorola will be releasing a refresh or replacement model around that time. However, Moto released updates for the original Droid well after Verizon stopped selling it, whereas Samsung is infamous for halting software support altogether once carrier(s) EOL a device. Whether or not they'll do that with their high-profile Galaxy S line at the cost of their own credibility/brand equity in the global smartphone market remains to be seen.
The consensus in the market is that the X has superior voice call quality and a more accurate GPS. If either of those factors is decisive for you, you might want to just go with the X. Also, its LCD screen displays text more crisply than the SGS' S-AMOLED screens (out of the box anyway), although the still underway Project Voodoo is aiming to help remedy this, but it's not available yet and there's no guarantee that they'll be able to make it superior, just less fuzzy than it currently is. Having said that, if you can live with the text resolution, the display on the SGS devices is truly impressive for image/video and also useable outside in sunlight! Oh and Galaxy S devices are compatible with more codecs and, despite lacking an HDMI outlet and Moto's fancy noise cancellation for phone calls, have a dedicated audio chip that makes for exceptional sound quality for music.
Samsung has promised to get Froyo and other fixes for the Fascinate out by the end of the month. A comprehensive GPS overhaul doesn't appear likely anytime soon, but the form factor is still dreamy and the fact that the bootloader is unlocked means many of the device's shortcomings may find custom ROM solutions more easily than the X.
Essentially, you'll have to decide what your priorities are and trust your own judgment. Good luck!
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I just got my Fascinate this past Sunday and these are some of the things I noticed:
- My GPS works really well in my opinion. Once in a while, it might take like 30 seconds to lock, but the GPS I was using before took just as long, if not longer (although granted, it wasn't a top of the line GPS). In any case, I really don't find any issues with the GPS.
- I don't like where they put the lock/unlock button. I keep accidentally pressing the volume rocker on the other side of the phone. Does anyone else find this annoying?
- I have noticed that reception always seems rather low. Now, I generally don't care much about how many bars of reception are displayed, but when using Google Voice to send text messages, I often get the error "Message could not be sent" and then I'd have to try again and it'd work (and I may end up sending the message twice by accident). This happens many, many times in a day, even when I appear to have good reception or am outside, etc. Does this happen to anyone else?
Anyway, after doing a lot of research between the Fascinate and the Droid X, I agree with the other person that the Fascinate is the best choice if you want to do a lot of customizing, and if you trust in the community, the Fascinate's future has more potential. I think my biggest concern for the Fascinate is the reception, which is the main thing that makes me wonder about switching to the Droid X. Other than Google Voice constantly not being able to send a message, I don't have any major issues with reception (i.e. no dropped calls in unusual places or anything else I can remember). If you don't care too much for customization and control, I'd say go with the Droid X. It is definitely a solid phone, right out of the box.
Other things about the Droid X that may factor into your decision:
- Reported to have a low speaker/ringtone
- Has an LED notification light
- Official Froyo release
I just played with both at a local wireless store. For some reason, the droid x has a lot better reception/signal. It had 5 bars, while the fascinate only had 3. Also, I ran that Speed Test App to see how fast Verizon's 3g was in my town, and the droid x got around 600, while the fascinate only got around 350. Strange. If I had to pick, I would get the droid x simple because: bigger screen, 8gb internal storage, and better signal.
"You are holding it wrong."
I had the Droid X from launch and I have them both sitting here as I type this. One of them has to be shipped back. The Droid X was meant to replace the Fascinate that replaced the Droid X.... lol ... Since the Droid X launch
Droid X (important to add I have a 32GB sd) Rebooting issues
Evo Solid Phone only drawback was space, and that was not serious.
Droid X long fight to get VZW to send me battery, back chargers ( 2 FCC complaints resulted)
Vibrant (2x on $99 dollar day) The best of them all in my opinion. Lol I still have the Avatar movie in hopes of getting past the drm on it. 16gb + 32gb. Only problem T-Mobile Customer service! Sales in English / Customer Support I don't understand English! (FCC to get refund and cancel service)
Droid X minor issues once I recieved a new one
Fascinate 1st brick, 2nd strange shut offs could be setcpu issue in hindsight.
Droid X Froyo update, working well, but (see below)
Fascinate (currently using)
As you can tell I've had some experience on this debate. I mentioned a couple other phones because they do play into my choices.
I wanted to decide between Epic, Vibrant, Fascinate or Droid X. Customer service is a big deal to me. I work for Verizon (not wireless) and this is the first time I'm using my discount on the VZ network.
Epic very nice phone, but small rom. I did have a nice discount and 4g was nice. Very hard not to take this phone
Vibrant ... Customer service killed it
Droid X amazing hardware on this phone. I can even live with the screen not being Super Amoled, but the software is terrible!
locked bootloader
No DLNA support to stream to device. Moov Atom different than most DLNA devices so Mezzmo who would create a profile is useless! Bootloader prevents cifs so not possible to mount drives (or I never found a solution). Only real option is Androstream in my opinion.
The Droid X does shine when it comes to syncing. Moto's Link tool is very nice to be free. I had no problem finding something that worked out of the box.
Fascinate small rom, but codec support is amazing! 5.1 audio. I want the option to listen to music and or watch tv shows on the go like I did with my iPhone through AirVideo. Cifs manager I can mount shares and watch anything! If I needed to I can use Twonky, Tversity, Playon and Mezzemo (they have a profile and it works well). I couldnt send a simple 5 second movie on the DX through mms, just would get an error. Fascinate converts and sends. Once this phone gets flash, native Playon support it will be perfect.
My real complaint is the fact this Version does not have the Kies option in the sync settings for Samsungs sync software. Media Monkey is the best option I've found.
The media hub now works (something happened in last couple days). Able to use my iPhone armband to workout with it as well as my
http://www.amazon.com/Acoustic-Research-ARWH1-Bluetooth-Headset/dp/B00195HS28
I just read that HTC is going to start locking down their phones, so I might stay with Samsung a while.
I put alot of thought into this decision and if not for my just getting an iPad I would have more to say about the media issues.
It's been mentioned before. You want a solid multimedia phone for the average user. Droid X is the way to go.
Honestly buy the Fascinate it comes with a Droid X free! Buy one get one of the same or equal value promotion will always trump the Droid X on its own, I have two this way! You would laugh if you knew how many screen protectors I went through in the last couple of months. Not that I'm hearing the Samsung Tab might be 399 with 2yr or 500-600 instead of the 1k first rumored, I believe that is where my next gadgit fix will go. Google Voice + Whistler = free phone anyway on my iPad, so its going to be interesting what options I have with the Tab.
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I just played with both at a local wireless store. For some reason, the droid x has a lot better reception/signal. It had 5 bars, while the fascinate only had 3. Also, I ran that Speed Test App to see how fast Verizon's 3g was in my town, and the droid x got around 600, while the fascinate only got around 350. Strange. If I had to pick, I would get the droid x simple because: bigger screen, 8gb internal storage, and better signal.
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there is some talk that the DX inflates its signal strength. i have seen a couple of reviews on the web with the DX and the SF next to each other and the SF showed less bars(not only cell but WiFi as well) and the SF was faster. this was also one of the problems with the iplop's signal strength before they claimed they "fixed" it with an update. i messed around with both at the local VZN store and the SF was faster opening apps and on the web. one thing i didnt like about the DX was when swiping to the next screen it always seems to over slide then slide back to center. the SF did not do this, it had a nice smooth slide from screen to screen. as for the screen, yes, the DX is larger but i see that as a down fall. there are times i slip my cell in my pocket and the larger phone is a PITA. i dont want to have to have it in a holster all the time. one shining point of the DX is the miniHDMI out. as it sits the SF doesnt do video out via a cable. of course, i dont have HDMI on my TV so its not that big of an issue. i would have preferred tthat it had the video out like the SF should have once 2.2 comes out(at least im hoping). right now, from where im sitting the SF edges out the DX but not by much. its all in what the end user wants to do with there phone.
I now have voodoo on my Fascinate and I would not go back to the X.
Battery life is on par with the x. The screen and multimedia features se much better than the x. The camera and video quality are much much better on the fascinate. And the fascinate will be much easier to customize. I've had the DInc, X, D2, and now the fascinate. Of all three the only thing I dislike the most about the fascinate is the lack of froyo. We will have that too, soon enough. Not to mention is has the best CPU/GPU combination in the mobile market anywhere. The iPhone 4 is know as a heat gaming phone. Ell guess what, the x has the powerVR SGX 530, the iPhone 4 has the powerVR SGX 535, and last but not least the Fascinate has the POWERVR SGX 540. Not to mention the sixaxis accelerometer. Its a great phone.
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I had a droid x for about a week before i switched to the fascinate. Honestly i wanted to like the droid x but everything just felt slower on it. I had an epic before i dropped sprint for verizon and moving to the droid x felt like a step backwards. Even running the blurless roms for the droid x i still noticed little hitches all over the place where my epic had been totally smooth. To be fair though the gps and battery were better om the droid x for me, but i just felt like the entire system was slower in comparison to the galaxy s phones. I am really enjoying the fascinate so far though, gets better batery life than my epic did plus its so damn thin i've had a lot of peole comment on how nice this phone looks and i agree.
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I have an upgrade due in November and want to get a good phone that could supply my needs for the next year. I'm looking at the Droid X and the Samsung Fascinate and wanted to ask those with Droid X if the real life performance is good. I want to know:
1. Is opening applications and exiting applications fast?
2. Is there any significant lag during day to day use?
3. Is the GPU good enough to produce smooth gameplay on 3D games such as Angry Birds, NFS Shift, or other demanding games?
I just want to know if the Droid X is good enough to be my next phone (my current one is the Eris).
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i cant speak specifically for the fascinate, but i have used the captivate before switching to the droid x.
1. there is terrible lag on the captivate in some applications. unlocking the phone, and even just answering a phone call gave me terrible lag. there are lag fixes, but you have to root to use them.
2. see #1
3. i think that the galaxy s units have a superior gpu, but i have had no issues whatsoever playing any of the games that you mentioned at all.
i have been completly happy with my x, and to me its much better than the galaxy s line of phones. the galaxy's have better screens, but thats about where it ends. good luck!
I can't speak on behalf on the fascinate but I can tell you that the droid x tends to be a bit laggy when performing regular tasks like scrolling through apps and screens. As for everything else it's amazing. No lag with games, speedy browsing, and amazing pictures. It would be the best phone ever made IMO if the lag was fixed.
I have both of these phones and the one I use 99% of the time is the Droid x. I have 2 numbers and have all calls from the samsung line forwarded to the droid x line. The x is built better; the samsung is mostly plastic and feels cheap. The x has 4 times the onboard memory; 8 gb to 2 gb. The x has a larger screen; the samsung has a nicer looking screen. The samsung is a google phone with microsoft software; that makes alot of sense??? The samsung is definately more "laggy" than the x. The x seems to get better reception. The x has 3 more megapixels in the camera. I'm not saying the samsung is a bad phone; if I had never tried the x I would be more than happy with it. Especially coming from an eris, I think you'll be happy with either one of them. Oh, your hand size might pay a role in the decision as well. Some people can't hold the x with one hand and touch anywhere on the screen. I don't have this problem, but I could see how it would be annoying. I hope that helps.
Thanks for these tips! I'm pretty sure this will be my next phone now, unless Verizon comes out with something mindblowing.
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Thanks for these tips! I'm pretty sure this will be my next phone now, unless Verizon comes out with something mindblowing.
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The HTC Merge is coming next mid-month...
Might be worth it to wait a month or two to see what else comes out.
The x is a pretty good phone to go with minus the locked bootloader.
LTE and a front facing camera would be sweet to see. Those two things in addition to current features of the x would be the perfect phone in my opinion. Still waiting for the double rainbow of phones though.
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you could wait, but as fast as phones are coming out, you would always be waiting for whatever was new. i say get what you want now. it'll be outdated in a month anyway regardless of what you get!
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you could wait, but as fast as phones are coming out, you would always be waiting for whatever was new. i say get what you want now. it'll be outdated in a month anyway regardless of what you get!
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True, true.
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Before anything, Go into a corporate store and ask to play around with both phones, most sales reps have the droid x or the fascinate as their personal phone and they will let you use them.
with that being said. I bought the Samsung Fascinate first and brought it back a week later to get the Droid X. Fascinate has a GREAT battery life compared to the droid X.
Reason I did this is not because the phone is not a good phone it is because the phone has some thing integrated that I did not like.
1) Bing is every where on the phone, so you must tweak it to where you can use google via an app on the home screen instead of a search bar ( some of us don't mind but I did.
2)On the car dock the default navigation system to use is VZNavigator which is run by BING and you must subscribe to it, so again to use google maps which is free btw you must use another short cut key.
These are the two biggest things I did not like on this phone. Other than those two things the phone has a beautiful screen and the camera quality is equal to greater than the Droid X, but without a case for the phone the phone feels very light and cheap.
Droid X has some issues of its own but nothing a little rooting can't help. When I had the stock Droid X I had a few freeze ups and lag but haven't had it happen since I rooted and did a few other tweaks.
Issues
1)Camera even though is 8MP is not the best but still does the job.
2)Do not know if this is a 2.2 issue or not but when you record video and then try to play it back on say a computer the audio gets messed up and has a delay
3)Battery life doesn't do to well
Other than those are minor ones and they can be fixed in time but you should also wait to see what they have coming out when they roll out LTE Network because I have seen a few I would love to get my hands on already.
I can't say anything about the fascinate but I have no major complaints about my x I mean sometimes the camera takes grainy pictures, but that's about it I've never had a freeze or anything of the sort im runnig completely stock 2.2 ota im always running live wallpapers and the battery lastes me 12-15 hours and that's with wifi use and emailing facebooking testing calling. Heavy use lol
The only thing that mainly depletes my batery is pandora when I have it hooked up in my car but that still takes 6-8 hours to kill it.
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I can't speak on behalf on the fascinate but I can tell you that the droid x tends to be a bit laggy when performing regular tasks like scrolling through apps and screens. As for everything else it's amazing. No lag with games, speedy browsing, and amazing pictures. It would be the best phone ever made IMO if the lag was fixed.
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it's because of the default Blur software. After I removed bloat and installed launcher pro, the phone is as smooth as butter with 100 MB free memory
My plan was to try the Fascinate 1st then get the Droid X if I didn't like the Fascinate. The Fascinate had a beautiful screen. The Fascinate is plastic and felt plasticky. Touchwiz was not bad. I didnt like the Bing presence and was holding off on modifying the OS.
The deal breaker for me was the abominable GPS and an issue with 3G instability (frequent dropping) after the Fascinate update. My roomie has an original Droid and she had great GPS and 3G by comparison.
I exchanged the Fascinate for the DroidX (after opening a trouble ticket for the 3G issues which VZW acknowledged was a problem with that phone).
Needless to say, I am totally happy with the Droid X. It's super responsive and everything works great (GPS, wifi, bluetooth, 3G). I appreciate the large, clear screen.
Battery performance is about 17-21hrs. I disable data when i dont need it. Generally have phone on for calls and text. I enable wifi at home or 3g out-and-about when it's needed. I dont need frequent updates of twitter,weather,email etc. (Once got 27hrs...). The GTD apps have always been my primary use of a smartphone.
My DroidX is pretty much where I want it to be (GTD apps and launcherpro, not a gamer per se). And it is unrooted.
I'm a girl with girl sized hands (you know what I mean) and I am totally comfortable with the Droid X. Unlike the Fascinate, the DroidX feels solidly built.
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I'm a girl with girl sized hands (you know what I mean) and I am totally comfortable with the Droid X. Unlike the Fascinate, the DroidX feels solidly built.
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glad you like it. At first I thought the X was too big for my big hands coming from eris, let alone a girl carrying it. But now I have learned to carry it comfortably and operate it with one hand.
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3)Battery life doesn't do to well
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Define "doesn't do to[o] well," because my phone often lasts me 9 hours of rather moderate use (numerous phone calls, ~75 texts, ~3 hours of music streaming, and probably ~1 hour of browsing the internet) and still keeps 50% left.
Get Setcpu if you don't already use it and learn how to set up profiles, especially one for when your screen is off.
Cant decide which one to get. vote and Post why you chose the one you chose.
the only reason why i am leaning towards the fascinate is no locked boot loader and fast GPU for games and it seems more smooth and snappy. but i dunno if those are real issues....
on this forum, it looks like the droid X is only slightly more popular.
http://www.droid-life.com/2010/09/07/samsung-fascinate-review/
my bigest concern is that no 2.2 means no official flash support. and since it recieved an maintanance update recently its not coming for a bit (otherwise they'd role it all into one). that and i hate bing. following birdman's tweets... there seems to be a lot of odd things with the root folder structure as well.
its all personal preferance, i look at the fascinate more as a toy.
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http://www.droid-life.com/2010/09/07/samsung-fascinate-review/
my bigest concern is that no 2.2 means no official flash support. and since it recieved an maintanance update recently its not coming for a bit (otherwise they'd role it all into one). that and i hate bing. following birdman's tweets... there seems to be a lot of odd things with the root folder structure as well.
its all personal preferance, i look at the fascinate more as a toy.
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im kinda out of the loop right now. whats the story with the droid x and 2.2? that is somewhat of a big deal.
IMO, all the X has over the Fascinate is:
a lot heavier (5.47oz vs 4.1oz),
slightly larger (127x66x10.2mm vs 125x64x10.5mm),
bigger screen (4.3" vs 4.0"),
bigger camera lens (8mp vs 5mp).
*better reception*
And, oh yeah, Froyo!
Latest word from Samsung, Fascinate will have Froyo "by the end of the year." I prefer a 4" SAmoled to 4.3" LCD and I've read the Samsung takes better pictures even with the smaller lens, So I'm leaning Fascinate as well. But NOT impressed with Samsung's support.
I have a vibrant running a leaked TMo froyo, and I've played with the DX, everyone is different but I much prefer the Galaxy. Screen, feel, non-blur, really good developers, super easy to root/customize and the phone has some millions... lots of support.
I just went through 3 replacements in 7 days. I like the hackabliity of the Fascinate and the screen is gorgeous but its too thin and between TouchWiz being stock and Samsung still not having Froyo out on the eve of Gingerbread I'm not impressed. I have a Droid X on the way and couldn't be happier. Motorola has the best reception and data speed IMO. As long as I have root and WiFi Tether I'm fine. Someone will crack the bootloader eventually. The devs here are amazing.
I should add "Better reception" to my above post, that is a significant plus for the Droid X. Thanks for that, Jeffnucci. However, if you think the Fascinate is too thin you are going to be disappointed to learn the Droid X is actually thinner. Thinner and heavier may mean more fragile due to increased momentum from a 3' fall.
I think the bootloader on the Droid X is like 2.2 on the Fascinate - just don't have it yet but won't be a significant difference in several months. When they are running the same software, it's just the differences in hardware that will matter.
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I should add "Better reception" to my above post, that is a significant plus for the Droid X. Thanks for that, Jeffnucci. However, if you think the Fascinate is too thin you are going to be disappointed to learn the Droid X is actually thinner. Thinner and heavier may mean more fragile due to increased momentum from a 3' fall.
I think the bootloader on the Droid X is like 2.2 on the Fascinate - just don't have it yet but won't be a significant difference in several months. When they are running the same software, it's just the differences in hardware that will matter.
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The X is heavier though is it not? Thin and light gives me the feeling of cheapness in my hands. The X feels like it has a nice heft to it.
I played with the fascinate a bit and did not really like the feel of it. I like the fact that the DX is made of metal and has a larger screen. IMO AMOLED screens suck in bright sunlight. Almost unusable in my experience. I have owned samsung phones in the past and my experience with samsung support is sub par. Combine the DX with the Fission Rom and that equals awesomeness...lol
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I played with the fascinate a bit and did not really like the feel of it. I like the fact that the DX is made of metal and has a larger screen. IMO AMOLED screens suck in bright sunlight. Almost unusable in my experience. I have owned samsung phones in the past and my experience with samsung support is sub par. Combine the DX with the Fission Rom and that equals awesomeness...lol
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whats so special abou the fission rom???
Fission is a vanilla android experience. It's blazing fast and doesn't have blur crap. It's a brand new phone I'm holding in my hands.
Yes it is really fast. They have worked out most if not all of the bugs and will have an official release on monday. The speed, amount of ram, and battery consumption are just a few reason to use it.
Droid x is better I had the fascinate for a month it is too buggy and cheap feeling went back to the x it is just a better phone.
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Droid x is better I had the fascinate for a month it is too buggy and cheap feeling went back to the x it is just a better phone.
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Agreed. I just got my X and it is the best phone I've had yet. I've owned an iPhone 4, a BlackBerry Torch, a Fascinate, a Droid, etc. This is fast, it feels good in my hands, it looks nice, I love it.
I had an incredible (rooted). Sweat got behind the screen so my local verizon store gave me the option of another inc or the facinate. I took the facinate. Voice quality sucks, signal sucks but the screen is unbelievable. Due to reception issues I can swap for an X but after comparing screens I just can't pull the trigger. The X's screen colors seem very washed... Is this normal or is there a fix?
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two words: "unlocked bitloader".... i am sick of this crap and this will be the last moto i own if it continues.... i wouldint buy a laptop if it had the same thing...
I have had every single phone VZW has to offer. (smart phone wise) I had the Fascinate and honestly loved it. The screen in AMAZING. I couldn't believe how nice it was and the picture quality is literally as good if not better than the X. I currently have a X and really enjoy it but i find myself missing my Fascinate from time to time. A lot of people are saying it felt cheap because of how thin it is... But i kind of liked that... The thiness i mean
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I have had every single phone VZW has to offer. (smart phone wise) I had the Fascinate and honestly loved it. The screen in AMAZING. I couldn't believe how nice it was and the picture quality is literally as good if not better than the X. I currently have a X and really enjoy it but i find myself missing my Fascinate from time to time. A lot of people are saying it felt cheap because of how thin it is... But i kind of liked that... The thiness i mean
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About the cheap feel, With the kickstand case on it, its a different phone. I don't think I can return it lol.
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I went with the X due to reception, mics (noise cancellation and sound quality), battery life and the build quality.
I love the form factor and the samoled screen on the fascinate but I wasn't comfortable going with that phone due to the wonky GPS. I don't use the GPS that often but when I do I need it to work.
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I had an incredible (rooted). Sweat got behind the screen so my local verizon store gave me the option of another inc or the facinate. I took the facinate. Voice quality sucks, signal sucks but the screen is unbelievable. Due to reception issues I can swap for an X but after comparing screens I just can't pull the trigger. The X's screen colors seem very washed... Is this normal or is there a fix?
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The X isn't washed out, the Fascinate is just massively oversaturated. Just the nature of OLED displays. A day of not using one and you'll realize the X in fact has a very lovely screen. And technically very close to color correct.
I'm very torn on this decision. I am an OG Droid user and have loved it since day 1 but it's time to move on. I use the hardware keyboard quite a bit so switching to a touchscreen only phone is kind of scary, that's the only reason the D2 is even in play here. I know the D2 and DX have locked bootloaders though, which can somewhat limit hacking them, or at least they did the last time I checked several months back. I love hacking my phone, although I know hacking the Galaxy s phones is much harder than hacking my Droid from experience, as my girlfriend has a Vibrant.
I love her phone, it's super slick and super nice which is why I'm leaning towards the Fascinate. Can any former DX or D2 users chime in and tell me what they like better about the Fascinate? I'm concerned that since the Fascinate came out after the rest of the Galaxy S phones that its hacking userbase is smaller (its development section has signifcantly fewer posts than the others). Is Cyanogen available on the Fascinate yet? I noticed sombionix has a Fascinate and is working on development for it, which is great because I put his rom on my girlfriend's phone.
Anyway I'm on the fence and would like help one way or the other. Please post any feedback you have on any of the 3 phones I listed, and why I should pick the Fascinate over the other 2. I'm also considering waiting until the next gen phones come out, I know dual core phones are right around the corner, though I do have 2 upgrades available to me so I guess I don't technically have to wait.
The Fascinate userbase is smaller than the other GalaxyS phones, but we have tons of devs that are working actively on bringing this phone to its prime. We do have Cyangenmod, although it is a broken port at the moment. The only thing that is restricting us is the lack of avaliability of the Froyo source from Samsung.
I have used the Droid and the Droid X. Not particularly the Droid 2 though. The soft keyboard on the Fascinate and the Droid X is a less accurate and easier to mistype than a physical keyboard, obviously, but the many keyboards avaliable such as the Gingerbread keyboard, Swiftkey, and Swype will make sort keyboarding much easier and maybe even more enjoyable than on a physical one.
In terms of speed, the Droids trump the Fascinate in CPU related tasks. In games, the Fascinate dominates. In media, the Fascinate's extra avaliable codecs are extremely helpful, as I can play avi and move files no problem on the stock video player. The screen is also noticeably more beautiful on the Fascinate, although the Droid X is more than adequate. The extra screen estate on the Droid X is great however. GPS and Signal: Droid X is much better. The Fascinate GPS works, but not as well as even the OG Droid. Signal fluctuates on the Fascinate somewhat.
The Droid X, because of its bootloader, can't flash kernels and can't flash Cyangenmod roms and such. But the roms for it are still great, as well as the themes.
I can say that you can't go wrong with either devices, but if you can, just wait for a dual-core phone to come out. If not, pick from what I've said about each device.
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I recently went from a D1 to a Fascinate. I considered the DX, but did not like the physical buttons (the reason I moved off the D1 was that my power button broke, and it seemed like more points of failure). I got the D1 the day it launched, first rooted it in February of 2010, and started installing custom ROMs shortly thereafter. I eventually landed on CM, and really like it. I miss CM7, but am excited by the level of work that seems to be going on right now on the Fascinate (I just loaded SFC 2.6 yesterday).
I rooted my Fascinate the night I got it. It took me about three hours (I missed a step the first time), and it is definitely more work than the D1, but once you get the hang of it (and especially once you get Red CW going) it is pretty familiar.
I personally did not consider the D2 because I found I rarely used the physical keyboard. I had been using Swype for the last couple of months on the D1 and was pretty happy with it.
I'm really happy with the screen size ... my D1 feels like a toy now it is so small in comparison.
Good luck!
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GPS and Signal: Droid X is much better. The Fascinate GPS works, but not as well as even the OG Droid. Signal fluctuates on the Fascinate somewhat.
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Since DL30 happened the GPS on my Fascinate has worked flawlessly. Instant lock every single time. A few seconds tops if I'm outside. It also regularly links right up inside my house, and from the bottom floor of my girlfriend's 2 story house! It's come a long way. It's amazing how quickly Fascinate development is flying along right now.
I wouldn't even think of a Droid. I love my fascinates feel in my hand, its light and the Devs here kick ass! I am running sc2.6 with the matted blues theme!
The fascinate rocks and not because of Samsung or verizon, but everyone here at XDA!
I just traded my D2 for a fascinate 4 or 5 days ago. It comes down to personal preference. The fascinate is a better device as far as screen size and quality, but the D2 is superior in every other way. Its nice to have the physical keyboard when your in a hurry and don't want a bunch of typos. The development is alot further too on the D2. The fascinate doesn't even officially have froyo yet. Liberty rom gives you an aosp experience, plus you get the liberty toolbox by jrummy there is 12 themes in the latest version of the toolbox that you can flash with the touch of a button.
So like I said, personal preference. I don't hate my fascinate, but I like option to be able to use the keyboard. If your gonna spend money you should wait for the thunderbolt our bionic
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At this point, I'd find it hard to justify upgrading now even to a currently-top-tier device like the Fascinate or Droid X (particularly if you do 2-year contracts) when so many substantially better new devices are literally right around the corner.
But if you really do want to upgrade now, the best way to look at it is this: the Droid X/Droid 2 are superior phones, while the Fascinate is a superior media device. Which one is "better" totally depends on your own personal needs.
I have an X and a Fascinate and the X is collecting dust. The Fascinate is just a better fit for my hands and is much lighter and fits in my pocket much better. The X boot loader is a BIG problem if you plan on hacking and Moto is constantly making updates that change the keys so any leaked sbf files are rendered useless. (sbf files are used to recovery moto phones) Moto seems to go out of their way to f with the mod community and for this reason I personally have sworn off moto products until they change their ways.
If you decide you want an X I have one for sale already rooted and running the lasted apex ROM. I can return it to stock though if you want.
I personally love my fascinate but I can't recommend it because of lack of updates, specifically to froyo. Even though I like the phone I can't continue to support the company.
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I personally love my fascinate but I can't recommend it because of lack of updates, specifically to froyo. Even though I like the phone I can't continue to support the company.
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Ahhh... eb01 is just as good as an official update, and the fascinate hardware is top shelf. I was in the verizon store the other day, yeah some other phones had froyo but they were cheap looking and feeling. The droid x is ok, but still not as slick as the fascinate. Actually, the iphone is the next best as far as hardware, but i didnt say that
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Falcyn has it right, get the droid if you make lots of voice calls, the fascinate if you game/browse/plau video.
My wife has the D2 because long fingernails and capacitative screens don't mix well, but the device is solid. Reception and voice quality are better on the D2, but its much heavier and unless you're in direct sun, the screen doesn't compare to the fascinate. The wife borrows my phone at night to game on, and swype bridges the gap from the physical keyboard nicely.
Samsung blows as far as support goes, but the devs here are johnny on the spot with leaks, fixes, and roms. If I had to get a new phone today, I would go fascinate again based on gfx hardware, screen beauty, hackability, and audio playback quality. Also, if you put your phone in a pants pocket, fascinate if the way to go due to weight and form factor If I wasn't under the gun for time or lived in a 4g coverage zone, I would gladly wait on the next iteration of handsets.
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Falcyn has it right, get the droid if you make lots of voice calls, the fascinate if you game/browse/plau video.
My wife has the D2 because long fingernails and capacitative screens don't mix well, but the device is solid. Reception and voice quality are better on the D2, but its much heavier and unless you're in direct sun, the screen doesn't compare to the fascinate. The wife borrows my phone at night to game on, and swype bridges the gap from the physical keyboard nicely.
Samsung blows as far as support goes, but the devs here are johnny on the spot with leaks, fixes, and roms. If I had to get a new phone today, I would go fascinate again based on gfx hardware, screen beauty, hackability, and audio playback quality. Also, if you put your phone in a pants pocket, fascinate if the way to go due to weight and form factor If I wasn't under the gun for time or lived in a 4g coverage zone, I would gladly wait on the next iteration of handsets.
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You say this phone had good audio quality. Is this in comparison to other droids? .. This is my first android, I came from a blackberry storm 2.. And I was very disappointed in the headphone output. The blackberry had far more bass and clarity at low volumes. the fascinate seems to clip bass notes at high volume too.. So it seems as if the audio is under powered.. Any comments?
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I went to Verizon with my friend Friday since he wanted a phone and I wanted to go look at the Xoom. He ended up picking the Droid 2(Global, of course.) I noticed that calls sounded much nicer, the external speaker was louder, and it had better reception.
It also had issues. It lagged in CPU-intensive tasks, whereas my Fascinate performed considerably better. It just didn't perform as well in general use, and especially not in gaming. The odd thing is that it scored higher and outperformed the Fascinate in benchmarks. But load screens took longer, and it just wasn't as snappy. The touchscreen isn't as accurate, and Swype is harder to use because of it. And the screen looks awful in comparison. I couldn't go back to an LCD screen on a phone. And the locked bootloader sucks. I'm not sure about the DX, but I'm sure it has similar issues.
While the Droid 2 and Droid X are great phones, but I would go with the Fascinate. It has a better screen, better CPU and GPU, and I find it nicer in general. The keyboard is nice on the D2, the DXs screen is bigger and nice, the GPS, call quality, and reception are better, but overall, I find the Fascinate better than either.