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Written review (first sight) about our device by @lavafire
Full length review by gsmarena
Unboxing, Head to head with n5, Speed review, and video sample by @AndyCr15
Review and How to change back cover by @AndyCr15
Review by Android Central
Unboxing and Build Quality, Short Review, Display Quality and Video Playback, Speaker Test, LED Test, Benchmarks, Gaming Performance, Water-repellent Coating Tes, Sample 720p Video, Sample Slow Motion 720p Video, Autofocus Test by @jonmorris@shem2409
Review by @jonmorris
Review by @mobiletechReview
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Hard core testing
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Speed Review
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Fantastic phone!!!!
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Moto G review
http://www.androidcentral.com/moto-g-review
The Moto G easily the best cheap Android phone you can buy right now. (And probably the only Android phone at this price point that delivers a user experience of this quality.) Every criticism of the Moto G has to be framed against its ludicrously low price. It’s frankly amazing that a manufacturer is able to put together a device like the Moto G for £135 and make money selling it.
Nuthin' but a 'Moto G' thang
Great phone, but it doesn't have sdcard slot
Had Moto G for about 24 hours now, I am so impressed with this phone. I really want to let everyone know about it I have compared this phone a lot with Samsung S4, not because I hate it, instead it was my last phone and I have used it for months, so have a good idea of what I am on about
Screen
Some may consider the resolution on this phone being too low, compared to the high end flagship phones this is about 100 ppi less. But does this mean the screen is bad? No. In fact, I am loving it more than the AMOLED on Samsung s4. First of all, I am just going to say that above 300ppi I can't tell the difference. To me, 400+ ppi = higher battery drain + requires more CPU + requires more GPU. Just why? Maybe there are some untold benifit of higher ppi screens, but to me I just don't see any advantage what so ever. Apart from the fact you could say to your mate "my phone's ppi is higher than yours...". So this to me is a big thumb up!
Speed
Before we talk about anything else, I want to mention speed of this phone. My S4 was running stock android 4.3 means I should see a massive different when I switch to this phone. But the reality is not the case, it really doesn't appear to be that much of a difference. There may be 1/5 of a speed difference when opening apps, but that is like 0.2 seconds? Even for inpatient person like me, it is more than acceptable. At the end of the day, it make you think what Samsung is doing with their snapdragon 600, when moto g can keep up using a snapdragon 400... This is on stock android, don't even mention touch wiz... But seriously find a review video or go to a shop and see it for yourselves.
Software/ROM
Well not much to say here, it is running basically stock Android 4.3 with a few minor tweaks e.g. camera.
Storage
8gb or 16gb, it is always the question. Previously i'd say get 16gb, more future proof, however I choose 8gb this time. Not because of the 50gb gdrive storage (pointless if you have no internet connection), instead you could get OTG so if you really want to watch films on trips you can do that. Otherwise, 5.5gb is enough for general app installs. For photos, turn on auto google+ photo back up (or dropbox backup whichever fits u better) then delete the photos on your phone once they are uploaded.
Camera
Haven't really tested it, but at least ok from what I can see and don't expect it to match DSLR
Hardware/Ergonomics
+ Curved back, easy to hold. I especially like the dented "M" logo, it gives more grip, helps when I need to touch the top of the screen.
- Phone is a bit heavy, for people like reading lying down for a long time might be a bit of a pain.
+ Back cover is removable, awesome! In fact, there a lot of covers coming out soon.
- Although, back cover is hard to remove and a bit slippery, not so awesome.
+ Volume key & power key on the same side.
- Clean design, coming from HTC and Samsung, I really enjoy this kind of simple design. I don't like the HTC/Samsung logo on the most obvious place on your phone kinda ruins the look of the phone.
+ No physical keyboard (some may consider this to be a minus instead of a plus), I am just glad don't need to worry about menu wearing out over time
- Speaker on the back side of the phone
+ Due to curved back, no speaker sound is actually trapped when you place it on the back
+ Both headphone port and micro-usb port are located middle of top and bottom side of the phone respectively, again just simple and nice to look at
- No 4G connectivity. Not a problem for me, as I don't even get 3G where I live, a lot of people living in cities might find this some what a deal breaker.
- No removable battery
- No expandable storage
Battery Life
All i am going to say is 4.5 hours screen on time, 60% left. :good: I am not convinced the stats is accurate, so testing it right now to see if it is really that good.
Update: second time, 4hours22min screen on time, 8 and half hours on battery, 43% remaining.
FM Radio
I was never a radio fan, always thought it was kinda out-of-date technology. Then I moved to an area where there are hardly any 3g/2g coverage at all on the way to work, karma i guess... You might say just download music from google music/sportify, but I don't change my songs frequent enough and it just gets old. Conclusion: always better to have a phone that has FM radio than a phone that doesn't.
Notification light
It is plain silly to me why some OEM would even consider not include a notification light on their phone. *cough* iphone. *cough* windows phone. It make things so much easier, when all you need to do is glance at it rather than turn on the screen, then turn it off again just to check if your missing anything important. There is no more needs saying, it is just playing annoying without one, so another plus.
Value for money
For most of the people, money is a key factor when buying a new phone. Even if the price is not a burden, you might still get the same feeling as me, thinking it cost quite a lot and make the promise to use it for 2 years or more. Well, with this phone you won't get that. In fact, I brought mine thinking I will use it as a back up phone since no other phone has its spec in its price range. But after I started using it, I couldn't put it down. Now I am not even considering getting nexus 5 which was going to be my main phone.
What I look forward to
Hell this is XDA, obviously I want lots and lots of ROMs XD. But I also can't wait for 4.4 to come out and ART to be stable. I imagine it would make this phone even faster. Saw some comparisons between Dalvik and ART, have to say ART wins hands down especially considering it is still in development stage.
Final thoughts
So happy with this phone, and mostly happy about Motorola stepping up and giving us this product. This is important in the sense, they are fighting a price battle for us, the consumers. We should show some support to let the other OEMs know it is not about how much they spend money on advertising, it is giving us a great product with a reasonable price instead of throw in some latest chips and mark it £599 rubbish which is basically what is happening right now.
Tips
I would recommend everyone get this phone, and get the 8gb version. Since it cost so little, no one could moan at you when you get a new phone next year
lavafire said:
Had Moto G for about 24 hours now, I am so impressed with this phone I really want to let everyone know about it I have compared this phone a lot with Samsung S4, not cos I hate it, but simply because it was my last phone and I have used it for months. So have a good idea of what I am on about
Screen
Some may consider the resolution on this phone is too low, compared to the high end flagship phones it is about 100 ppi less. But does this mean the screen is bad? No. In fact, I am loving it more than the AMOLED on Samsung s4. First of all, I am just going to say that above 300ppi I can't tell the difference. To me, 400+ ppi = higher battery drain + requires more CPU + requires more GPU. Just why? Maybe there are some untold benifit of higher ppi screens, but to me I just don't see any advantage what so every apart from the fact you could say to your mate "my phone's ppi is higher than your...". So this to me is a big thumb up!
Speed
Before we talk about anything else, I want to mention speed of this phone. My last phone being Samsung S4 running stock android 4.3 means I should see a massive different when I switch to this phone. But the reality is different, it really doesn't make that much of a difference. There may be 1/5 of a speed difference when opening apps, but that is like 0.2 seconds? Even for inpatient person like me, it is more than acceptable. At the end of the day, it make you think what Samsung is doing with their snapdragon 600, when moto g can keep up using a snapdragon 400... This is on stock android, don't even mention touch wiz... But seriously find a review video or go to a shop and see it for yourselves.
Software/ROM
Well not much to say here, it is running basically stock Android 4.3 with a few minor tweaks e.g. camera.
Storage
8gb or 16gb, it is always the question. Previously i'd say get 16gb, more future proof, however I choose 8gb this time. not because of the 50gb gdrive storage (pointless if you have no internet connection), instead you have OTG so if you really want to watch films on trips you can do that. Otherwise, 5.5gb is enough for general app installs. For photos, turn on auto google+ photo back up (or dropbox backup whichever fits u better) then delete the photos on your phone once they are uploaded.
Camera
Haven't really tested it, but at least ok from what I can see and don't expect it to match DSLR
Hardware/Ergonomics
+ Curved back, easy to hold. I especially like the dented "M" logo, it gives more grip, helps when I need to touch the top of the screen.
- Phone is a bit heavy, for people like reading lying down might be a bit of a pain.
+ Back cover is removable, awesome! In fact, there a lot of covers coming out soon.
- Although, it is hard to remove and a bit slippery, not so awesome.
+ Volume key & power key on the same side.
- Clean design, coming from HTC and Samsung, I really enjoy this kind of simple design. I don't like the HTC/Samsung logo on the most obvious place on your phone kinda ruins the look of the phone.
+ No physical keyboard (some may consider this to be a minus instead of a plug), don't need to worry about menu wearing out over time
- Speaker on the bottom of the phone
+ Due to curved back, no speaker sound is actually trapped when you place it on the back
+ Both headphone port and micro-usb port are in the middle of top and bottom side of the phone respectively, again just simple but nice to look at
- No 4G connectivity. Not a problem for me, as I don't even get 3G where I live, a lot of people living in cities might find this some what a deal breaker.
- No removable battery
- No expandable storage
Battery Life
All i am going to say is 4.5 hours screen on time, 60% left. :good: I am not convinced by the stats, so testing it right now to see if it is really that good.
FM Radio
I was never a radio fan, always thought it was kinda out-of-date technology. Then I moved to an area where there are hardly any 3g/2g coverage at all on the way to work, karma i guess... You might say just download music from google music/sportify, but I don't change my songs frequent enough and it just gets old. Conclusion: always better to have a phone that has FM radio than a phone that doesn't.
Notification light
It is plain silly to me why some OEM would even consider not include a notification light on their phone. *cough* iphone. *cough* windows phone. Makes thing so much easier, when all you need to do is glance at it rather than turn on the screen, then turn it off again just to check if your missing anything important. There is no more needs saying, it is just playing annoying without one, so another plus.
Value for money
For most of the people, money is a key factor when buying a new phone. Even if the price is not a burden, you might still get the same feeling as me, thinking it cost quite a lot and make the promise to use it for 2 years or more. Well, with this phone you won't get that. In fact, I brought mine thinking I will use it as a back up phone since no other phone has its spec in its price range. But after I started using it, I couldn't put it down. Now I am not even considering getting nexus 5 which was going to be my main phone.
What I look forward to
Hell this is XDA, obviously I want lots and lots of ROMs XD. But I also can't wait for 4.4 to come out and ART to be stable. I imagine it would make this phone even faster. Saw some comparisons between Dalvik and ART, have to say ART wins hands down especially considering it is still in development stage.
Final thoughts
So happy with this phone, and mostly happy about Motorola stepping up and giving us this product. This is important in the sense, they are fighting a price battle for us, the consumers. We should show some support to let the other OEMs know it is not about how much they spend money on advertising, it is giving us a great product with a reasonable price instead of throw in some latest chips and mark it £599 rubbish which is basically what is happening right now. Basically
Tips
I would recommend everyone get this phone, and get the 8gb version. Since it cost so little, no one could moan at you when you get a new phone next year
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Impressive review! thanks mate.. I would get this for Christmas soon.. till it reach our region soon.. anyway, If you could make a full video out of this review, I would love to watch it.. thanks
Stop full quoting! Argh...
@lavafire Thanks, this describes the Moto perfectly, good for people who are considering yet.
Not a full review (I'll be posting that next week) but here's my blog entry about it: http://jmcomms.wordpress.com/2013/1...of-success-to-date-lies-in-the-budget-moto-g/
Battery life looks too good to be true and I hope everyone gets as gooder results as you
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shure2 said:
Battery life looks too good to be true and I hope everyone gets as gooder results as you
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As mentioned in my video review, I got some of the best battery life I've ever seen from my Moto G.
SHEM's Moto G Videos
Here are my Motorola MOTO G Videos:
Unboxing and Build Quality:
Short Review:
Display Quality and Video Playback:
Speaker Test:
LED Test
Benchmarks:
Gaming Performance:
Water-repellent Coating Test:
Sample 720p Video:
Sample Slow Motion 720p Video
Autofocus Test
Sample Slow Motion 720p Video 2
jonmorris said:
Not a full review (I'll be posting that next week) but here's my blog entry about it: http://jmcomms.wordpress.com/2013/1...of-success-to-date-lies-in-the-budget-moto-g/
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Please comapre Nexus 4 and MotoG interms of
Camera, performanceand other relevent fields.To
me some of the specifications seem similar.
i guess only the experienced users can actually advice
which one to buy.
Regards
Shikhar
AndyCr15 said:
As mentioned in my video review, I got some of the best battery life I've ever seen from my Moto G.
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In trying to figure out how this works because 2000mAh isn't even that big for a 4.5" screen.
For instance my Galaxy Note has a 5.2" screen which is roughly 10% bigger but has a 2500mAh battery which is 20% bigger. At best I've been able to get 5h SOT which is everything low or off, usually I get 3-4 which I consider decent because the nexus 5 gets around 3-5h SOT and has a similar size screen and battery.
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shure2 said:
In trying to figure out how this works because 2000mAh isn't even that big for a 4.5" screen.
For instance my Galaxy Note has a 5.2" screen which is roughly 10% bigger but has a 2500mAh battery which is 20% bigger. At best I've been able to get 5h SOT which is everything low or off, usually I get 3-4 which I consider decent because the nexus 5 gets around 3-5h SOT and has a similar size screen and battery.
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The Note had a 5.3" screen.. That makes screen 38% bigger.
Also, the software makes a difference. And maybe the Snapdragon 400 is more efficient than the Exynos used by Samsung
I was going to say, your maths is a bit off there at 10%. You need to look at the area, not the diagonal length.
If you think back to when 4.5" screens where the norm on top end devices, most batteries were less than 1600mAh. The Desire HD for example had about 1300mAh I think.
http://thediplomat.com/2013/11/the-motorola-moto-g-an-impressive-addition/
....software optimization can go a long way, Motorola has compared the Moto G’s performance with the Samsung Galaxy S4, when performing minor tasks. Despite Moto G’s mid-range SoC, lower amount of RAM and less powerful graphics chip, the handset apparently manages to make a call 1.1 seconds faster than the Galaxy S4, it answers a call 1.2 seconds faster, returns home 0.5 seconds faster and boots up 5.3s quicker too....
:silly:
shure2 said:
In trying to figure out how this works because 2000mAh isn't even that big for a 4.5" screen.
For instance my Galaxy Note has a 5.2" screen which is roughly 10% bigger but has a 2500mAh battery which is 20% bigger. At best I've been able to get 5h SOT which is everything low or off, usually I get 3-4 which I consider decent because the nexus 5 gets around 3-5h SOT and has a similar size screen and battery.
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Let's look at the numbers,
The Galaxy Note has a 1280x800 @5.3 inch screen -> 4.49" × 2.81" = 12.62in²
The Moto G has a 1280x720 @4.5 inch screen -> 3.92" × 2.21" = 8.65in²
-> The Galaxy Note has a screen 45.9% larger than the Moto G
-> The Galaxy Note also features a battery 25% larger than the Moto G
Remember, that the 4.5 and 5.3 numbers are the diagonal size and do not linearly represent relative screen sizes
The Moto G has a better (battery:screen size) ratio than the Galaxy Note.
How have you found the vibration motor on it? - to anyone who has one in hand yet.
The one in my Skate seems to make more noise than movement :laugh:
Just taking some time to share this fresh review with you guys. Enjoy.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8523/the-new-motorola-moto-x-2014-review
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Just taking some time to share this fresh review with you guys. Enjoy.
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Thanks for posting... As we can expect from AT, it was a more technically oriented review and had some of their usual good insights at the component level. Maybe the technical slant of their reviews colored the conclusion, but I felt the review didn't speak enough to the overall strength of the user experience. Not that it was a bad review - it definitely covered the quantitative aspects of the battery, screen, camera and SOC performance - but I think what was missing was balancing that against the experience of actually using the Moto X as a phone.
My plan is to jump on one in another month or two after my current contract expires, so for me there's time to wait for more reviews from actual users to get a true picture.
dstr72 said:
Thanks for posting... As we can expect from AT, it was a more technically oriented review and had some of their usual good insights at the component level. Maybe the technical slant of their reviews colored the conclusion, but I felt the review didn't speak enough to the overall strength of the user experience. Not that it was a bad review - it definitely covered the quantitative aspects of the battery, screen, camera and SOC performance - but I think what was missing was balancing that against the experience of actually using the Moto X as a phone.
My plan is to jump on one in another month or two after my current contract expires, so for me there's time to wait for more reviews from actual users to get a true picture.
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I tend to agree with you. It is easy to criticize someone on the choices they make but you have to appreciate the effort that they have put in. They may not have made the best android phone but they have gotten a lot of things right. Moto X 2013 was my favorite phone last year since it was a good balance between all the things I wanted in a phone and after going through everything from S5 to M8, I'm hoping Moto X 2014 will be the perfect balance one more time. IMHO, of course.
noobsquared said:
I tend to agree with you. It is easy to criticize someone on the choices they make but you have to appreciate the effort that they have put in. They may not have made the best android phone but they have gotten a lot of things right. Moto X 2013 was my favorite phone last year since it was a good balance between all the things I wanted in a phone and after going through everything from S5 to M8, I'm hoping Moto X 2014 will be the perfect balance one more time. IMHO, of course.
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I agree
These battery tests with scripts are not even real world usage, no matter what they say. Scripts running could bring in other factors, like wakelocks, blah blah blah. So it boils down to users, and their usage. I am betting it'll be fine with me
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I agree
These battery tests with scripts are not even real world usage, no matter what they say. Scripts running could bring in other factors, like wakelocks, blah blah blah. So it boils down to users, and their usage. I am betting it'll be fine with me
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+1, I would be happier with a bigger battery but I'm fine with 2.300mha. According to extensive reviews I saw already I don't believe battery would be a problem but yes I'm worried about the camera. I saw a lot of noise of sample pictures and I take a lot of photos of my children. I'm not saying the camera is bad, it is really great for the price but if I could pay a little more and get a better camera I'd do it right away.
Because of camera I'm thinking about Galaxy Note 4. Great cam and great screen but I had a Galaxy s4 before and I, like many others, dislike touchwiz and the slow updates. Right now I don't know exactly what to do, the price of moto x is extremely appealing and Android L won't take long to show up. I'm fine with battery, I'm fine with the single speaker (it's on front anyway) but the camera is holding me back. Maybe not for so long - but I want to check more sample pictures before jump on the boat.
joelteixeira said:
+1, I would be happier with a bigger battery but I'm fine with 2.300mha. According to extensive reviews I saw already I don't believe battery would be a problem but yes I'm worried about the camera. I saw a lot of noise of sample pictures and I take a lot of photos of my children. I'm not saying the camera is bad, it is really great for the price but if I could pay a little more and get a better camera I'd do it right away.
Because of camera I'm thinking about Galaxy Note 4. Great cam and great screen but I had a Galaxy s4 before and I, like many others, dislike touchwiz and the slow updates. Right now I don't know exactly what to do, the price of moto x is extremely appealing and Android L won't take long to show up. I'm fine with battery, I'm fine with the single speaker (it's on front anyway) but the camera is holding me back. Maybe not for so long - but I want to check more sample pictures before jump on the boat.
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I feel you. The camera isn't that bad, when I saw pics. It depends on the lighting. But maybe consider buying a small, cheap camera? Moto X + cheap camera = a Note 4 probably. But having two devices is a cause of concern, so I understand
My battery on my n4 is 2100mah and it can't even get half of what Moto X gets. That's pretty good to me, since n4 battery is only 200mah less
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I feel you. The camera isn't that bad, when I saw pics. It depends on the lighting. But maybe consider buying a small, cheap camera? Moto X + cheap camera = a Note 4 probably. But having two devices is a cause of concern, so I understand
My battery on my n4 is 2100mah and it can't even get half of what Moto X gets. That's pretty good to me, since n4 battery is only 200mah less
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You're absolutely right, having two devices is exactly the problem to me. And don't get me wrong, when I talk to much about the camera maybe seems like I want a fantastic and ultimate quality camera but something on par with GS4 that is two years old now or more would be perfect fine to me. I'm complaining but in the end I think I'll do get a moto x. Like we said before, it's not the best android available but when you see the big picture it's a really great and balanced set.
Wow. Thanks for the link to review which I read in its entirety. This is giving me pause and I just received email from moto that my order is in assembly stage. I may cancel the order and wait for Nexus. I also think this phone will be discounted by Xmas like last year. ;(
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markwebb said:
Wow. Thanks for the link to review which I read in its entirety. This is giving me pause and I just received email from moto that my order is in assembly stage. I may cancel the order and wait for Nexus. I also think this phone will be discounted by Xmas like last year. ;(
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What do you mean discontinued? The OG x was never discontinued was it?
matt99017d said:
What do you mean discontinued? The OG x was never discontinued was it?
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He said "discounted" lol
Idk if the new Moto X will get discounted by much, since looking at the chipset, it's really up to date. Even the s5 hardly got a discount. I don't expect it
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He said "discounted" lol
Idk if the new Moto X will get discounted by much, since looking at the chipset, it's really up to date. Even the s5 hardly got a discount. I don't expect it
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True. But if sales are slow like last year I wouldn't be surprised at a slight reduction to move them during the holidays to compete with you know who.
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The thing I found most notable about this review was the complete dismissal of Moto Voice. For me, this was one of the best attributes of the original Moto X, and it worked well enough to impress iPhone users with its text-message-by-voice feature that mostly "Just Worked." Mileage may vary, obviously, for anyone who spends any time in a car this is a potentially very useful feature.
It'd be nice if the battery life reports had come back better, but they seem more or less as performant as the original model which for me was adequate if not ideal. Throw in the turbo charger, which will theoretically provide a useful enough charge of a 15 minute power up and I'm sold.
Pocketnow just posted their review and he got 4 hours screen on time with 18 hours worth of usage and he used it with Moto 360 and all the bells and whistles. He liked the phone so much that he ordered his own since he was using review unit for a few days.
People just find reasons to hate on something. Motorola is like the guru of battery management. I start using my Moto 360 around 8am and when I put it back on charger at 10pm, I still have 50% battery left. I'm sure Moto X will be similar and I am not worried about it at all. You're always around a charging port in car, in house and at work so why worry?
It could have been better, could have been worse too but who cares. It's a great device overall and I'd be happy to own one
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Pocketnow just posted their review and he got 4 hours screen on time with 18 hours worth of usage and he used it with Moto 360 and all the bells and whistles. He liked the phone so much that he ordered his own since he was using review unit for a few days.
People just find reasons to hate on something. Motorola is like the guru of battery management. I start using my Moto 360 around 8am and when I put it back on charger at 10pm, I still have 50% battery left. I'm sure Moto X will be similar and I am not worried about it at all. You're always around a charging port in car, in house and at work so why worry?
It could have been better, could have been worse too but who cares. It's a great device overall and I'd be happy to own one
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If pocketnow tested the battery by actually using the phone and not by scripts (which I presume he did), then that just shows that running custom made scripts brings in some other factors that will kill battery. I can't trust reviews solely basing battery on scripts. I've read many reports saying that the phone was used and lasted for over 10 hours or whatever
Thank you for bringing more good news on this phone and its battery lol
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Using scripts to test battery life is fine, but were they really expecting? If you keep two phones on with roughly the same SoC and roughly the same screensize, but one has a larger battery, of course the one with the larger battery is going to win.
I'm more interested in knowing how the Moto X is optimized. When the screen is off, how frequent are the wakelocks? How is the ROM tailored to optimize the phone's battery life when it's not in use?
Does anyone know a site that runs those kinds of tests?
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Pocketnow just posted their review and he got 4 hours screen on time with 18 hours worth of usage and he used it with Moto 360 and all the bells and whistles. He liked the phone so much that he ordered his own since he was using review unit for a few days.
People just find reasons to hate on something. Motorola is like the guru of battery management. I start using my Moto 360 around 8am and when I put it back on charger at 10pm, I still have 50% battery left. I'm sure Moto X will be similar and I am not worried about it at all. You're always around a charging port in car, in house and at work so why worry?
It could have been better, could have been worse too but who cares. It's a great device overall and I'd be happy to own one
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I just read the review and it wasn't a ringing endorsement as they had some concerns expressed towards the end of the article:
http://pocketnow.com/2014/09/18/moto-x-2014-review
Is there another I am missing?
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joelteixeira said:
Just taking some time to share this fresh review with you guys. Enjoy.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8523/the-new-motorola-moto-x-2014-review
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I used to like anandtech because they could give real world meaning to synthetic benchmarks. I miss the user experience. Even the verge, which always seems very apple biased rated the moto x 8.8 (vs iphone6 9.0), when they verge likes an android phone that much you know it must be good (even if it doesn't have *the best* camera)
Pocketnow basically concluded. It's no better than the predecessor and I agree. Barely an improvement if any.. I had a bad feeling. Maybe Lenovo screwed this up, who knows.
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Pocketnow basically concluded. It's no better than the predecessor and I agree. Barely an improvement if any.. I had a bad feeling. Maybe Lenovo screwed this up, who knows.
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but... they gave it an 8.9 lol
edit: from listening to the review, they're only disappointed with the camera. and, like he says in the vid, their readers actually liked last years cam. i won't say i like the cam on my current one, but it's not total crap either. it's usable.
edit: and the battery. but he ends it with saying he's purchased it haha.
i personally think battery and camera can be slightly underwhelming considering the package as a whole. my only complaint deals more with the screen but we'll see how that turns out.
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The thing I found most notable about this review was the complete dismissal of Moto Voice. For me, this was one of the best attributes of the original Moto X, and it worked well enough to impress iPhone users with its text-message-by-voice feature that mostly "Just Worked." Mileage may vary, obviously, for anyone who spends any time in a car this is a potentially very useful feature.
It'd be nice if the battery life reports had come back better, but they seem more or less as performant as the original model which for me was adequate if not ideal. Throw in the turbo charger, which will theoretically provide a useful enough charge of a 15 minute power up and I'm sold.
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Ever since I ported my Google voice number over to a real number. I use moto voice non stop while driving. You can kind of make it work on other phones if you do the okay Google on any screen but you have to have it plugged in and have it set to never turn the screen off while charging. There are apps that will read out your texts but none seem as refined as moto assists features. If the next nexus somehow gets moto voice I'll probably end up with that but I'll probably sacrifice battery to get the next moto x. From reading. It seems it's on par with the 2013 moto x at least.
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FIRST THINGS FIRST. THIS IS DIRECTED TO BRAZIL USERS! It may help some folks from other countries but it is not what I had in mind.
So, I got my new moto X on Brazil retail for a month now. Came from 1st gen gen moto x and, before that I would pretty much root and mess around with every single phone I got my hands on. Never felt the need to do that on the old X. So, I got the new one with very high expectations.
So far I am not disappointed with it but there ARE areas for improvement. So, what I think of it right now:
The good:
- The camera is definetly upgraded from the old model, but that doesnt mean it is a good camera. I would definetly say it is a average in comparison to the poor one from before. Video is very good though.
- It feels so comfortable in the hand. I was a bit worried about the 5.2 screen and the sheer size of it (I do have big hands but I am not a fan on phablets at all) but it has a very comfortable grip and the metal frame gives a very good feel. The bigger dimple is ok.
- This is true flagship performance for for a great price for Brazil standards (I got mine for R$ 1424, (that's around $650 dollars) and I am pretty much on top of every benchmark test and performance test I make with my friends. The stock interface does shine here.
- The new version of moto software is GREAT! The waving hand to glance at the notifications is the greatest thing and we finally get a use for voice commands.
The bad:
- My battery time is far from great. I am a heavy phone user and I do need to charge it around 6 pm (10 hours off charger). I listen to music and game on commute (around 1 hour each way), have email notifications and whatsapp buzzing all day. A friend has pretty much the same use on his GS5 and usually has 20% more battery than me. It really seems like moto gave it such a small battery on purpose to direct peoply to the Nexus 6.
- Software has it's fair share of quirks. Moto screen has a small glitch when you interact with it. It is minor but is does bug me. Voice control has a real hard time getting some of the commands straight. The phone recognizes the commands but moto doesnt catch them. I have to say them 3 or 4 times to get it to work.
- I really wish moto packed a better headphone with it or no headphone at all. It is better than the one before but it really doesnt say much, since it was was total C-R-A-P. Construction is poor, sound is questionable and volume is incredibly low. Just avoid it if you can.
Other than that I really believe this is the best high end fone you can get down here now without having to fork over R$2000 or getting a outdated phone. Let me know if you have any other questions about it
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Hello pacobahyba,
Thanks for your report, I'm on the same boat here, Brazilian Retail version, almost 30 days already. My last device was a Galaxy Nexus, over almost 3 years (That's how much a device usually last with me, that's what I expect from the MotoX).
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Good things, i can add a few points:
* Camera: It have a good camera, overall. As a photographer i dont expect a phone to have a very neat camera, so MotoX didn't let me down so far.
* Size/Shape: Good grip on hands (Sometimes it's hard to use it with one hand, but not enought to don't like it), but also very comfortable in pocket, I know it's there but don't make me fell unconfortable.
* Very neat performance, as you said. Not even a lag, freeze, anything like that. Since I came from stock Android (Nexus device) I can say that I'm home here, and that's also awesome.
* Never used Moto softwares before, so I can't say about changes, only about how much i liked it, it's pretty awesome, but fells a little bit awkward on the street, also I can't make it works with the headphone speaker, not a problem, since I don't talk to the device on street.
* Battery: I'm very satisfied with it, last device was very poor on battery specs. I don't play games, but I'm always using GPS and Bluetooth, Spotify and Flacs, playing videos, email and web. You can add Skype and Hangouts with camera there, also Chromecast/Netflix and the Battery last till I get home to recharge it.
* Besides the fact Motorola made heavly saturated colors, screen is amazing.
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Bad Things:
* Moto Voice takes too long to give an answer when it uses Google Now.
* Sometimes Moto Voice just don't work.
* Speakers are loud, LOUD, but not clear, not intense or 'live'. I would exchange the high volume to a more clear sound without a second thought. It's not Stereo (the top speaker only work with calls).
* No leds, not a big problem, but I used to use it a lot on last device, with Light Flow app.
* Power button fells like it will break anytime.
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I really like it. It's far the best phone I got the hands on so far. I know it's only a Phone so most of the 'Bad Things' won't matter. I'm very pleased with the choice I made (I was about to replace my Galaxy Nexus to Nexus 5) and I hope it last for at least 30 months. I really liked the Motorola apps, and I would be very happy with more apps choice in the future.
Best regards (and sorry about the typos).
Just got mine today! Good to see Brazilian folks here.
Do you guys bought a case and a screen protector? I'm having a hard time finding it in Brazil :/
I'm really loving this phone, the active display is what I think it's best on the phone so far. And the camera is really not that good, but I guess they can correct that with some software update. I bought a screen protector for mine, and should have bought a case as well, mine already took his first visit to the floor yesterday no major damage, but it got a little scratched on the corner...
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rafael_lf said:
Just got mine today! Good to see Brazilian folks here.
Do you guys bought a case and a screen protector? I'm having a hard time finding it in Brazil :/
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I got a generic one here but Im trying to get some quality cases. Lookup on artcases. They're quite expensive though [emoji52]
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pacobahyba said:
I really wish moto packed a better headphone with it.
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Headphone? At least you got one.
My US Pure Edition didn't have headphones at all (not that I would use them anyway, but still)
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Headphone? At least you got one.
My US Pure Edition didn't have headphones at all (not that I would use them anyway, but still)
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I saw that but trust me, you're better off without it. It is total crap
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Hi Paco!
I felt the same about the new MotoX.
Bigger screen, better camera, better construction, but the battery does not fit for heavy users.
Moto Voice doesn't work well, but I rarely use it (I think that talk to the phone is strange; people in Brazil see you like a weirdo).
And I still can't find cases for this phone. I got a hard case in my old MotoX. One month has passed and no hard cases for new moto (is it selling fine?!?!)
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Hi Paco!
I felt the same about the new MotoX.
Bigger screen, better camera, better construction, but the battery does not fit for heavy users.
Moto Voice doesn't work well, but I rarely use it (I think that talk to the phone is strange; people in Brazil see you like a weirdo).
And I still can't find cases for this phone. I got a hard case in my old MotoX. One month has passed and no hard cases for new moto (is it selling fine?!?!)
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Cases are stll tricky to find. Lookup on artcases, but beware of the prices though!
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I'm in Brazil too, considering to buy.
root is a must for me... did you guys already root it, the XT1097 brazilian version is bootloader unlocked?
Options I'm considering:
Moto X 2014 (XT1097 BR) - Sounds it will be ok to root, with good dev community, I'm concerned with battery only
Moto Maxx - Huge battery, but looks like dev community will be really small, because the US version is Verizon locked
Nexus 6 - That's the one I really want, but no news so far about launch in Brazil, will it ever come?
Noed said:
I'm in Brazil too, considering to buy.
root is a must for me... did you guys already root it, the XT1097 brazilian version is bootloader unlocked?
Options I'm considering:
Moto X 2014 (XT1097 BR) - Sounds it will be ok to root, with good dev community, I'm concerned with battery only
Moto Maxx - Huge battery, but looks like dev community will be really small, because the US version is Verizon locked
Nexus 6 - That's the one I really want, but no news so far about launch in Brazil, will it ever come?
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Mine is the XT1097, and I got to unlock the bootloader and root it with no issues whatsoever. As for your options, me personally, I would just trade my Moto X for the nexus 6, that one is the is the real deal, even though I don't like the idea of having a 6 inch display, too big for my taste.
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hey man sorry for the delay... I see what you're saying on your options. The way I see it you gotta be between N6 and moto x. I dont like the maxx design... they remind me of that dreadful razr line
I think it should come down to a few things:
Are you a phablet fan? Otherwise you're in for a hard cause cause that thing is a monster.
Are you ok with the price tag? I liked the price range from nexus devices before. I get that Google changed the philosophy and all that and I am fine with their reasoning, it's just not my thing. I truly see it coming out here on iPhone 6 price range, but it is ultimately your choice.
Can you wait? It just barely came out. We usually have a delayed window. Keep in mind that moto is having a hard time to keep up with the demand. It's not unreasonable to think we'll get it by jan.
All things considered, I like where you're heading anyway! Let menknow what you do!
Thanks for the replies guys.
I will be ok with the screen size and price on Nexus 6. Yeah, I expect it to be expensive, but I will probably not need an upgrade in a few years hopefully.
I'm in a hurry though, because my old Galaxy S2 is almost dead... since there's no target date for Nexus 6 in Brazil, I may have to get a Moto X 2014 instead.
I'm brazilian and was willing to buy this phone. BUT....thanks to this post, i think i 'm gonna wait more.
I think the Nexus 6 will be the best for what i want. It really pisses me a small battery autonomy.
I was a Note 2 user, and i get used to a big battery. Currently i'm with a S5 but not satisfied with the autonomy.
Note 4 is too much expensive, and that TW is too much boring right now.
I really thinking about N6, but there is not even a single mention about if it will be avaliable to us here in BR.
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I'm brazilian and was willing to buy this phone. BUT....thanks to this post, i think i 'm gonna wait more.
I think the Nexus 6 will be the best for what i want. It really pisses me a small battery autonomy.
I was a Note 2 user, and i get used to a big battery. Currently i'm with a S5 but not satisfied with the autonomy.
Note 4 is too much expensive, and that TW is too much boring right now.
I really thinking about N6, but there is not even a single mention about if it will be avaliable to us here in BR.
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Hey rafaelw,
I REALLY believe that the N6 will cost Note 4 money once it hits brazil, so try not to get your hopes up on that department.
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Hey rafaelw,
I REALLY believe that the N6 will cost Note 4 money once it hits brazil, so try not to get your hopes up on that department.
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I believe that at the launching it can be some high cost, but the Nexus line it's not the typically phone for the major BR population, making the price drop after some time. I never bought phones at the launching, I wait to drop it. The Note 4 is too much expensive, and the price drop is too much slow
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I believe that at the launching it can be some high cost, but the Nexus line it's not the typically phone for the major BR population, making the price drop after some time. I never bought phones at the launching, I wait to drop it
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You re right on that, but then again google never did make such a high end nexus phone... but hey, I get your point dude!
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You re right on that, but then again google never did make such a high end nexus phone... but hey, I get your point dude!
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Another question dude, what is the currently situation about Root and custom roms? Do you fell the need of them?
I don't know your historic with smartphones, but I'm at my 4th Android phone and one of the first things that I do in a new phone is to root it and search for custom roms.
(But the main reason to root is to freeze or uninstall crap softwares that came original installed, I don't think that Moto x have this problem).
Thanks
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Another question dude, what is the currently situation about Root and custom roms? Do you fell the need of them?
I don't know your historic with smartphones, but I'm at my 4th Android phone and one of the first things that I do in a new phone is to root it and search for custom roms.
(But the main reason to root is to freeze or uninstall crap softwares that came original installed, I don't think that Moto x have this problem).
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So, rooting is there but custom roms are not.
I am on my 6 android phone (had the sony x10, moto milestone 2, milestone 3, razr i, the original x and the new x). Before the original x I d root every single phone I had mainly for custom roms and better performance management so I think we are alike on that point
Now with that being said, since the original X I didn t see the need to root it. Performance was snappy from day one and it stayed that all all the way before I sold it. That baby was a beast. The new X feels the same to me. It is pretty much stock android feel and motorola software actually enhances the phone's usability without affecting the performance at all. I see that quite a few people have it rooted but, since most of my backup is done automatically using tasker and I store it on 2 different locations, I have very little to worry about
I couldn't wait anymore, got the XT1097 in FastShop.
Didn't root yet, the only thing I miss most is hibernating bad apps with Greenify... what do you guys do to tame apps that are insistent to start and consume cpu/mem/data all the time?
Hi Everyone,
I have now Note 4 N910C , although it should be one of the fastest phones ever as usual Samsung managed to ruin it with the Touchwiz , battery isn't that good and with mobile data on just usable for max 12~14 hours.
I had LG G2 before and it was an amazing device, Liked it very much and was great in performance and battery. Tried Galaxy S5 and now the Note 4 after it but not feel that i am satisfied.
So due you recommend moving to G4 ?! What's your experience with it ? don't care about benchmarking the devices and comparing numbers to each other ,,, daily use is more important to me
what about it's battery ??? the battery was great in G2
Camera samples looks very good and almost all reviews are positive.
any one tried the dual sim version of it ?!
your advice is highly appreciated , thanks in advance
Dears,
Andy Advise ?!
Hey Mohammed, i just bought the dual sim edition from Dubai. So far, it's pretty decent. But... There's always a but! G4 owners will murder me for this lol
Ok, using 2 STC sim cards, I managed to switch ONLy one SIM card to 4H. The other one seems to be a 3G (also, when I make/receive a phone call from the 3G SIM card, the Internet gets disconnected from the other one until I hang up)
As for the battery life 6 hours of a brutal usage, and around 12 hours of average on duty usage. But I'm ok with it as I got the gift pack with it and it comes with an extra battery+its charger kit
As for the camera.. And coming from Lumia 1020, I'm quite disappointed. It's a decent camera. Takes roughly 3 seconds to shoot from a locked screen and focusing withthe Vol down double click. <--- similar to the speed of my lumia 1020
When it comes to sharpness and clarity, its an average phone. Somewhat similar to the S6.
As for the speed, its a flowless device. Multitasking is really good.
As for the Stylus, you might feel that you're downgrading if you're a stylus dependent. Add 195$ to it and get yourself "Phree pen".. Google it. It's a revolutionary gadget
And please, don't buy the bull$#!÷ said about the lack of premium feel due to the plastic build. Its a decent phone amd rigid. And LIGHT. new "primium feeling" phone are all made of metal and are quite heavy. A straight hour of holding them will get you a horrible wrist sore. This G4 wont
Plz feel free to ask me anything, i might be able to answer you accordingly
I am 80% convinced to get the G4, the only alternative is the Note Edge.
New S6 ported roms on Note 4 and Edge are nice enough or it's still a much laggier phone than G4?
Wait for the LG G4 Pro.
Hi All,
I decided to take the plunge and buy the Supreme Camera edition of the handset, just to see if there is any dramatic improvement in camera quality, from the original M9, which I eventually returned for build quality issues!
Took delivery about an hour ago and first thing I noticed is that the build quality on this handset is considerably better than the original M9 that I had on launch. Tight gaps and flush screen, so very pleased. Over the weekend I will give the camera a proper test, to really see if they have made any dramatic improvements.
First up though, and an embarrassing question to ask, but UK English is not an option for the language pack on this handset. How do I download extensions for this, so that I can select UK English for the phone language? I thought it would be obvious, but I cannot find a way to do it?!
Thanks
please let us knowabout your findings!
So the weekend is over. ...can you or would you post your review or opinions about the camera ?
I really want to upgrade from my M7 ....has it since May 15 .....still kicking .
Please do answer . Thank you .
Still waiting !
I wonder if we can s-off this one and get roms from M9+ to work on it, the problem with non-flagship HTC phones is that they have nearly zero custom roms
Your language pack issue?
I have the M9+ and isn't it quite easy to change language? Lol
Settings->Language & Keyboard->Language
And voila, you can change the language of your phone. At least that's what I did. Tell me if it works for you.
Hi I've done it on mine bought it from Hong kong.
You can s-off with sunshine tool.
phone cases for the M9+ and M9+ supreme camera the same?
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phone cases for the M9+ and M9+ supreme camera the same?
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for sure.exactly the same one.
can someone confirm if it comes with Google Play store?
Glen L said:
can someone confirm if it comes with Google Play store?
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Yes, it has got the play store.
Can i install this camera on any phone.
I will buy the M9+ SC only if it gets custom roms. This phone is a perfected M9 but htc is not promoting it at all
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Dont waste your money on it
"One M9+ Supreme Camera Edition allows you to capture your best photos in all situation with built-in 2nd generation OIS and industry-leading focusing technology (Laser AF & PDAF)"
This how HTC describes the M9+ Supreme Camera on their website, and I was stupid enough to believe it, so I went ahead yesterday and made the worst decision ever, trade a Note 5 for this piece of [email protected] Focusing on this thing is almost impossible, colors are always off, the camera app becomes so sluggish with the slightest shake. I lost hope in catching a good shot of my 3 years old daughter.
Add to that a below than average battery life that takes more than 2 hours to fully charge. Then comes the processor, that cant even handle the slightest games like Yahtzee Online and Domino!. I had to go into Developers mode, then turn on the High Performance Mode, which made things a bit better yet affected the already bad battery life. And dont try to watch a YouTube clip at 720p+ reslution, it will empty the battery and shut down before you are done from the phone.
Now I have to live with atleast $150 loss or else I would end up banging both my head and the phone till they crack open.
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Is it so !
So sad.... I thought it is the perfected version of M9 .
This has started a new thought ...should I now invest a fortune in coming HTC One M10 or go for SGS or Note series phones....
Thanks for your sharing.
Well... it depends on the point of view... I was using HTC phones since Kaiser (TyTN II) and now I have M9+ (not the Supreme Cam model)... I can do good pictures with it, good enough for a phone cause otherwise I'd use Nicon 5300 cam
And I do not really understand people swearing on the battery life... I am using the phone as handy office, calling, sending SMSs and Emails, even playing Fallout Shelter from time to time when I am bored, GPS, Internet... WiFi and Bluetooth connected almost all the time... All I need... Yet I normaly end up with 60-70% at the evennig and I do not bother to recharge during the weekend when I do not use the phone too much...
I even tried Asphalt 4 and it was running with no hiccup...
Damn... what's wrong with you people?
P.S.: I think I would never go for something else, not Samsung in particular, because I am totally happy with M9+...
That's very perplexing .
I have HTC One M7 Dev Ed...with a new camera .... and it captures great photos. Outperforms many of today's so called big shots in terms of looks,sound clarity,screen res , software support ...it can go on and on.
I am also a loyal HTC customer....have owned xda II, xdaIIi, Universal ,HD,HD2....
I am also not comfortable with other Samsung like phones...have used Note2 ....hated it....but...
Let's see what HTC delivers ...fingers crossed.
Sold
I wish I was exaggerating, because I loved the screen, speakers, and mkst importantly the fantastic design and build quality.
The battery got better on the 3rd day, I guess it was calibrating, maybe?
But the bad performance stucked with it, and every time I wanted to play these basic games, I had to switch on the max performance mode, which affected the battery life greatly.
After losing my temper and faith in this phone, I ended up trading it for the A9 32gb, and I am loving it. It might not be better than my old Note 5 or S6 Edge, at least on paper, but I definitely feel like it is the best phone I ve ever had, although I wish HTC gave us a louder speaker sincs this one is so freaken weak.
Battery life is brilliant, averaging more than 5 hrs of sot, and using Samsung's fast charger gets it from 0 to 100% in around 80 minutes max. Performance is amazing, and the camera while not the best, is still very reliable.
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I wish I was exaggerating, because I loved the screen, speakers, and mkst importantly the fantastic design and build quality.
The battery got better on the 3rd day, I guess it was calibrating, maybe?
But the bad performance stucked with it, and every time I wanted to play these basic games, I had to switch on the max performance mode, which affected the battery life greatly.
After losing my temper and faith in this phone, I ended up trading it for the A9 32gb, and I am loving it. It might not be better than my old Note 5 or S6 Edge, at least on paper, but I definitely feel like it is the best phone I ve ever had, although I wish HTC gave us a louder speaker sincs this one is so freaken weak.
Battery life is brilliant, averaging more than 5 hrs of sot, and using Samsung's fast charger gets it from 0 to 100% in around 80 minutes max. Performance is amazing, and the camera while not the best, is still very reliable.
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You must have known before purchasing man, M9+ have low-mid cpu-gpu, that's not its highlight. You can find those components on a Xiaomi Redmi Note 2/Meizu MX5 and this is saying all.
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You must have known before purchasing man, M9+ have low-mid cpu-gpu, that's not its highlight. You can find those components on a Xiaomi Redmi Note 2/Meizu MX5 and this is saying all.
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I am not a heavy gamer, that's why I took the risk. But I never knew it won't handle basic games. All in all, I am glad it all went this way and ended up with the A9, because I am loving it.