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Hey guy's
I'm planning on buying MOTO G 2014....
Pls post here the pro's and con's....
also, how's the battery life to an average user... Not what the company says...
I've only used XPERIA before this and have no idea... about moto!!!
c3cil
c3cil said:
Hey guy's
I'm planning on buying MOTO G 2014....
Pls post here the pro's and con's....
also, how's the battery life to an average user... Not what the company says...
I've only used XPERIA before this and have no idea... about moto!!!
c3cil
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Dude, there are already threads with exactly these questions asked and answered here...
Anyway, i came from s3 mini and didn't regret buying this device for one second. Battery is amazing in my opinion (getting nearly 24 hours from 100 to 0 with about 6 hours screen on). Performance is good too, at least for me. But keep in mind that its not compareable to latest state of the art like one plus or s5. But it comes for a realy fair price...
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After 1 month of use i say this phone is great.
More excited to get android Lollipop.
this phone is just awesome , really.
if you don't want to spend to much on a phone - this is the phone for you.
awesome phone the best part is speaker in front really helpful when watching movies or songs
sent from moto 2 gen
It's a good phone no doubt, as for battery life I'm getting around 8-10 hours (I'm not a gamer but a heavy whatsapp user).
KingGehl said:
Dude, there are already threads with exactly these questions asked and answered here...
Anyway, i came from s3 mini and didn't regret buying this device for one second. Battery is amazing in my opinion (getting nearly 24 hours from 100 to 0 with about 6 hours screen on). Performance is good too, at least for me. But keep in mind that its not compareable to latest state of the art like one plus or s5. But it comes for a realy fair price...
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OnePlus "State of the art"? What you been drinking? LOL
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OnePlus "State of the art"? What you been drinking? LOL
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Only the hard stuff but dude, have you had a look at its specifications?
Don't hesitate
You can't be wrong. I received mine two weeks ago and couldn't be happier. I used a Samsung Galaxy S2 for almost three years (it was running OmniROM 4.4.4), and I was planning to buy an Galaxy S4, but then I thought I didn't want to spend US$400 on a phone. Finally I bought Moto G 2014 (8GB, Global model with one microSIM - XT1063).
PROS:
- Great screen, may not be "retina" however looks crisp and clear and the five inches are the perfect size.
- Fast enough. I do play games, and even some fast games run smoothly. I was a little scared on the 1.2 Ghz quad Qualcomm, but it's fast and saves a lot of battery.
- I've run 18 straight hours with moderate usage and still 25% battery. Battery is great.
- The microSD slot is just great to have. I spent US$16 on a Transcend 32GB Class10 UHS-1 Memory Card with Adapter and moved my heavy apps there as my ebooks, music and pictures.
- Sometimes you will use your phone to make actual calls. Let me tell you, the sound is great, so natural I was scared when I received the first call.
- Reception is excellent. I usually make a call everyday and with the SGS2 I always lose signal at certain highway spot. I was surprised the Moto managed to keep good quality sound through the same spot. (I'm using same carrier). Of course I did this with the loud speaker (s).
- Comfortable with one hand operation. Perfect size.
- Dual speakers with acceptable sound.
- No bloatware (almost)
- Altough I'm still enjoying stock experience, the phone is easily rootable, and Motorola helps you unlock the bootloader themselves on the site (there's a thread explaining step by step here on XDA)
- Lollipop on the way
- Camera quality very good on normal conditions. Even better than my SGS2 with the same 8 MP camera.
- Not ultra slim, but slim enogh. I was worried about this, but have no regrets. The phone is a great looking device.
- Led indicator
CONTRAS
- I was used to the home button on Samsung devices, and was a little afraid to break the power button, however I found no complains from one year users of the original Moto G. Also there are a few good aps to wake up device with the proximity sensor or accelerator.
- This is being too sissy, but my first Motorola Milestone had a multicolor led indicator which was cool to know if it was a message, lost call, email, etc. Moto G 2014 led is always white.
- In low light conditions, camera is not that good, but there are ways to improve with manual settings.
Let me tell you, all my friends/relatives who've seen my new phone are envy or buying one.
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Hey guy's
I'm planning on buying MOTO G 2014....
Pls post here the pro's and con's....
also, how's the battery life to an average user... Not what the company says...
I've only used XPERIA before this and have no idea... about moto!!!
c3cil
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Hi all, I'm currently using the Galaxy S5 and looking to upgrade to the G4. Anyone has switched to the G4 from Samsung's high end phones like the S6 or the Note 4? Can you give some impressions and comparisons (Camera (most important), screen, performance)? Thanks a lot!
From Note 4.... The G4 should crush the S5 except water resistance
I did it after one month with s6 edge, battery in s6 edge is so bad, other things are ok and almost identical, no lags on both phones. Camera is identical.
I came from the S5 to the G4 and haven't even had a second thought on going back
Camera is amazing. UX 4.0 beats Touchwiz (in my opinion better than S6 as well, my wife has that). Just takes some getting used to the no "hard" home buttons and the power/volume buttons on the back rather than the side but once you do it's actually more convenient knowing a case can protect them even more and are less susceptible to being damaged
I came from galaxy s3. Well, it's obvious that the g4 performs wayyyy much better
Note 4 to G4 here. So far, seems better in all aspects. Only one it might not beat the Note 4 in is battery, but I haven't had for long enough to really see how it averages. Camera is better. UI seems cleaner and easier to use. Love double tap on, as I was used to it with the HTC M8 and missed it on the Note 4. Only weird thing I had to get used to was in the cam app, the 3 software buttons don't show up (have to hit the back button in the camera view).
LG really did well with this phone
Thanks all , would love to hear more from Note 4 and S6 users too!
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I came from galaxy s3. Well, it's obvious that the g4 performs wayyyy much better
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I made same switch. And yeah, the G4 does seem to have just slightly better performance.
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Thanks all , would love to hear more from Note 4 and S6 users too!
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I'll post more as I get to use phone more. Just got yesterday. So far, it's really nice. I had almost written LG off after the Optimus G. Glad I didn't. So far:
PROs for G4 vs Note 4
Lighter. Also noticeably smaller despite screen being almost same size.
Better Camera
UI - UX 4.0 really is nice and light
No Keyboard FCs! Man that was annoying in Lollipop Note 4...keyboard FC but stayed on screen, had to reboot to get rid of
Double tap on and Knock unlock code
Themes
Settings app broken down into proper sections (Note 4 Settings scrolls all day with all settings on a single scrolling list)
Can get a real Glass Screen Protector without the dreaded Halo effect around all edges (Note 4 curved edge to screen caused this no matter which glass protector I used (tried 6).
64 bit processor
Faster in real world use
Cool offers of free stuff from LG
About $200 cheaper
PROs for Note 4
Stylus (I only used a handful of times....was more of a gimmick to me)
Better battery life?
Fingerprint scanner and heartrate monitor (I hardly used either, as the fingerprint scanner required an odd hand placement for such a large phone)
Physical Home button
Just different between the 2:
Home button and volume button placements (I prefer LG after using for a little bit)
Both have IR blaster, large beautiful screens, expandable storage, 3GB RAM, excellent wireless radios.
Switched over from a Samsung Galaxy S4...I traded it in for $100 to At&T so my G4 only cost me $99 + tax on my upgrade option. Loving it so far, praying for root to get rid of the bloatware. :fingers-crossed:
I did. I have the S6e at home and I intend to switch back and fourth. The G4 feels so much bigger. The camera quality is NOT the same and I have tested them both in the same scenarios. The s6 is brighter and crisper than the G4. Stock launchers is far better and faster than TW. TW began to lag on my S6, so I installed Nova Prime and it was super fast again. Battery on the G4 is 10 times better than the S6. I got 36 hrs on my G4 and still had 25% left.
I came from a rooted Note 3. First non-phone-specific: I REALLY REALLY miss root. The ability to block ads is missed and I have to wait to restore all of my titanium backups that I have sitting till the G4 is rooted.
As far as performance goes, my Note 3 was pretty snappy. I haven't noticed very many differences in performance yet. But I've been waiting for the battery to get a few cycles before I really start pushing performance with games and stuff.
Other than that, I don;t really miss my Note 3. The G4 is smaller, looks nicer has a better (but only slightly smaller) screen. I kind of miss AMOLED screen tech for battery and contrast, but everything else makes up for it. Do not regret it.:good:
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I did. I have the S6e at home and I intend to switch back and fourth. The G4 feels so much bigger. The camera quality is NOT the same and I have tested them both in the same scenarios. The s6 is brighter and crisper than the G4. Stock launchers is far better and faster than TW. TW began to lag on my S6, so I installed Nova Prime and it was super fast again. Battery on the G4 is 10 times better than the S6. I got 36 hrs on my G4 and still had 25% left.
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I have an S6e as well and agree with you. I had a Note 4 before the S6e and now the G4 and it feels downright massive compared to the S6e. The Note 4 felt smaller to me because it was thinner but it was a big device as well. I got rid of my Note 4 because of it's size, I ride motorcycles almost daily and the damned thing was never comfortable in my pocket, it was just too big and rectangle and flat. The S6e is perfect size for me in that regard but I really miss having a larger display (had a Nexus 6 before the Note). Because of the slight curvature of the back of the G4 it makes just enough of a difference in my jeans that it doesn't dig the corners of the phone into my leg when I squeeze the tank in turns, etc.
Cameras between S6e and G4 seem pretty similar to me but there is a difference but I attribute that to Samsung doing a better job of processing the jpg file that's output than LG with the G4 having the ace in the hole of giving you the raw file you can subsequently edit yourself. I know that's not what most people want to do (myself included for phone snaps), but I think the LG camera is better for that reason alone as you can certainly make a better image in the end. All that said, I believe the S6e will do the same once it gets official 5.1.1 and then a proper camera comparo can be done, though in all honesty it's still a phone camera and they are both outstanding for what they are.
Same thoughts on launchers too, the iteration of TW on the S6e is much better than anything they've done before but it still suffers from the same old problems of lag ultimately. I too use Nova (on both phones) and it solves the issue. If forced to use stock, I would probably pick the LG but I do hate the DPI of 640 and everything is so damned big and there's so much wasted screen real estate. The S6e out of the box with it's adjustable grid sizes and what not better utilizes the screen.
Agree on battery life also. On the stock ROM I could make it through a day (I work 18-20h shifts at times) on a single charge but I would cut it close some days. The built in Qi charging is really nice and I have a charger at work and I can just drop the phone on it when I can make it to my office and the quick charge via the INCLUDED wall charger is awesome. So even though the battery life wasn't great, it's quite easy to top it off. I did run the leaked TMo 5.1.1 software for a week or so and the battery life on it is a completely different animal. I could make it nearly 48 hours without a top off, so again, with 5.1.1 I think the S6e will be a lot better device than it currently is. The battery life on my G4 seems great so far. I've run it down to 10% twice now and it was at about 40h off charger each time. The phone itself supports quick charge 2.0 but the included wall charger doesn't. The wall charger charges it incredibly slow so I've been using my S6e charger which charges it in about 1/3 the time. I ordered a proper quick charge 2.0 certified charger that should be here tomorrow along with a Qi sticker for the stock back. All things considered, the G4 battery is certainly longer lasting but more of a pain in the ass to recharge for now (until my free spare battery from the promo shows up lol!) and for the way/scenarios I use my phone I prefer the S6e here. My Note 4 easily crushed them both in this category, it could go just over 3 days before dying.
Coming from S5 (Verizon) to the G4 (Verizon) ...
The S6 with no SD support was a no-go for me.
Battery life seems a little shorter than the S5. I suspect it is due to the beefier processor on the G4 even though the G4 has a bigger battery. The battery on the G4 seems to drop a LOT less when unused however.
I am kinda missing my fingerprint scanner on the S5, but the knock code and "locked files" in gallery help me keep certain pictures away from prying eyes.
Speaking of pictures, this camera is awesome. Period. Check out the "My LG G4 Photography" thread by alexfoxy. The front camera is pretty good too. A lady friend took a few selfies with my phone and said "damn, your phone makes me look good!"
I don't really notice the difference in the screen (size or resolution). S5 looked good and a the size is right for my big hands. G4 is the same.
This is the first phone that I didn't immediately wish for a ROM. I am missing my ad-blocking that requires root, but the default ROM is clean and fast (maybe kudos the the processor). I did have to change home back to Apex, tho.
All in all, very happy with the upgrade.
I'm coming from the Note 4 and I'm pretty sure the G4 is here to stay with me.
I can basically echo what others are saying;
- the ui is cleaner and smoother
- overall phone seems a lot smoother/quicker I haven't had much stuttering. The Note had its moments where it'd freeze or stutter really badly, even on a custom rom
- maybe it's just me but the pictures from the camera seem sharper.
- It feels better in hand aswell.
- The double tap on screen to unlock is nice to have
- the clip tray being an option when I long press where I would usually paste is nice to see as with the Note, the clipboard only showed up in select places
It just seems nicer overall. I do hope root comes soon as I'd want to disable some stuff.
In terms of battery, I feel like the Note might of done better but then again I had certain crap apps disabled *cough* tmo my account *cough*
I can't exactly judge though since my service at work sucks so whatever phone I use drains quickly. For some reason when I had the OnePlus it did a ton better in the poor coverage areas (in terms of battery drain) but it didn't have WiFi calling which is a big deal to me.
I didn't use the spen as much as I initially thought I would. When it came to taking notes I always went back to typing them rather than writing with the stylus. Although it did come in handy for selecting certain parts of a pic online and whatnot and quickly sharing it to something like hangouts.
Fingerprint and shealth I never cared for.
I haven't "missed" my Note 4 yet. I like having new devices and I'm sure I don't use them to their potential as some others do here but for my purposes the phone is great
Even though I have the HTC One M9 Dev Edition, I consider myself coming from the T-Mobile S5 to the T-Mobile G4. The dealmaker for me were the replaceable battery and removable storage. I'm still keeping my S5 of course. I still need a root-capable device.
To ex-note 4 users
What made you switch ?
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Regarding the Note 4I got irritated with it to the point where I paid off half the phone's price to get rid of it. Lollipop was an absolute mess. First, we waited forever. Then when we get it, it really messed up the phone. Issues I had:
1) Constant keyboard FC (where keyboard stays on screen permanent until reboot)...this would happen about once an hour, but only when using special characters ( . , * $ etc).
2) Upon unlocking, I would go to a black screen occasionally, requiring me to press the power button to shut off phone, then turn back on.
3) Trying to open an e-mail from notifications would take me to e-mail APP, but to a blank page with a back button.
4) Sometimes, cellular radio would choose to ignore wireless data altogether despite being in a strong LTE area.
5) Wifi calling would hardly connect, and was as likely to drop mid-call as it was to stay connected
6) Battery life went from 2 days with my usage to about 18 hours.
On top of those Lolli issues, the settings menu was a mess...scroll all day to find the menu I wanted. Missed double tap to wake too.
While I LOVED the look of the M9 and I love HTC in general, I eliminated HTC M9 due to 2 reasons:
1) The camera wasn't a contender with the current flagships and I use it as my primary camera to take pics of my kids.
2) No dual apps on same screen. It's a feature I used on the Note 4, and M9 didn't have it.
The S6 got eliminated due to 3 main reasons:
1) Looks too much like IPhone...sorry, just not my style
2) Touchwiz...granted my opinion is based on the Note 4, but I found it to be overly heavy and loaded with things I don't really use.
3) No expandable storage. I read their point of using high speed EMMC and wanting to keep system fast. What I read in that was "Blah blah blah we want you to pay MORE to get more storage". Again, goes back to too much like IPhone.
I'm not saying the G4 is perfect...I'd love it to have an 8 core processor, but it's really powerful enough as is. It's not overloaded with apps I won't really used or features I don't use. I'm sure I'll find things I don't LOVE as I use it more, but nothing is jumping out at me so far, and considering this has only been out for what...2 weeks, it's still early release, so bugs could be expected somewhat even though I've had none thusfar. I also liked the promotions LG was putting with it considering it's the least expensive of all the flagships out there (at least for us T-Mobile customers...it's $50 less than the M9, $80 less than S6, $180 less than S6E, hell, it's even cheaper than a 16GB IPhone 6).
Sorry so long
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im a phone whore ......... i wanted a new toy till the note 5 comes out. I pray they dont ruin it like they did the galaxy series
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im a phone whore ......... i wanted a new toy till the note 5 comes out. I pray they dont ruin it like they did the galaxy series
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hah, once their sales figures come in they will not make that same mistake with the s7 is my hunch. g2-g3, m7-m8
Talk about scoring an own goal against LG
g2 vs s4 and g4 vs s6 (!)
At the time if g2 intl version was like g2 korean version i think i would have bought it.
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You could continue if you want
i'm not one of those TL;DR types.
My Friends
I’m in a dilemma, as the Note 7 is unavailable I cannot decide between Samsung S7E (G935F) and LG V20 H990.
I would appreciate any ones inputs (Pros & Cons) as I will be purchasing within 2 weeks from now.
(- I know that if I go on for the V20 I’ll loose the Echoe Support team……. Vey bad for me).
Thanks in advance
Going to try to help you out here, First I had a note 7, always been a Note follower since Note 1 - 5 then 7. The of course the fiasco happened, then I opted for the free replacement to s7 Edge. I used it for about 2 weeks, and it felt like a downgrade from the Note 7. was probably closer to the Note 5 than the Note 7. So i decided to sell it and got the V20 on preorder thinking that might as well give another Brand a try before Note 8 comes out. And im glad i did (slightly happy the note 7 fiasco happened)
LG has alot to offer, i blame poor marketing for their lack of success.
Pros: Things i like about the LG V20
1.) Second Display. didnt think it would be useful, but it really is. ex. while on Waze i can easily switch between Spotify then back to waze.
2.) Removable Batt: my phone came with an extra battery freebie. Going to get my battery charger this week. And I have to say, I never thought id miss having a removable batt. Its just great. A battery is smaller than any portable power bank, And just taking 15 secs to replace the batt is better than plugging a phone in to a power bank for an hour or so.
3.) Not sure if this applies for you, but LG has true Dual Sim (Thats what they call it) and I love that idea that i can have 2 Sims AND MicroSD card. Dont have to choose between SIM2 or MicroSD
4.) Android Nougat: Yes s7 edge will also get it, infact they are having a beta test of it already in some countries. But then we know Samsung and add carriers to that, Youll probably get nougat by Feb or March if you're lucky.
5.) Bigger screen. But well it also is bigger in dimensions so I cant say if youll like that or not. But i do hehe
6.) Knock to wake and off: This is a great feature. especially when just checking for notifications. Though S7E has the wave to turn on feature but i always turned that off since it randomly turns on when I reach for things across the table etc.
There are a few more little features here and their that i appreciate that LG did. Id have to say the V20 is a well thought off phone software wise.
CONS:
1.) I miss wireless charging. I still have my wireless chargers all over my house and I do miss the convenience of it. Rumors are out that LG will have some attachment but until its really out there, I wont bank on it
2.) IP68, i guess its just for peace of mind. in the 15 years ive had a smartphone, ive never dropped it in water so lucky me. And i have a case on so thats probably enough to protect it from sudden rain. I mean really, who talks on the phone under the rain without an umbrella. If it rains, run for cover.
3.) AMOLED > IPS LCD screen. No contest
4.) Accessories are rather limited vs. samsung phones. Even case manufactures seem to be slow and have limited items for the LG V20.
anyway hope this helps somehow. Dont regret picking LG over samsung this time around. And i do hope LGv20 does good things for LG so they can continue developing their products and get more market share. I do feel Samsung is becoming like Apple and just resting on their laurels.
Hi
Could you also comment on the difference in quality of the Cameras & GPS
Many Thanks & much Appreciated
For GPS id probably say the same. It picks up my location just as fast as the note 7 when i leave my basement parking
Im no Camera expert so i cant comment fully on the features such as V20 manual mode and saving to raw. Never use those. But from a normal "Auto" user i think thr s7e is a little better. But the wide angle is what I like about thr LG v20. I get to use that alot for work. With my N7 i bought a camera lens kit for it. This one is built in
Also coming from the note 7. Didn't want an s7 as it's been out for awhile. I wanted a new phone.
V20 pros
1. In bright light, takes pictures as good as note 7
2. Screen is great.. amoled just slightly better. But I don't see any problems with mine
3. 2nd screen is useful
Cons:
1. Note 7 takes better pictures in less than bright light. Faster focus. Less action blur.
2. Not waterproof
3. No stylus. I missed this one even if I seldom used it.
Conclusion:
No regrets getting the v20. It'll be awhile before the note 8 comes out. And this time I'm not doing a pre order anymore. So I'll be keeping the v20 for at least a year. But a better camera and stylus is just to much temptation for me lol
The two biggest cons for me vs the S7 Edge are the lack of wireless charging and that the battery life is about 60% of what I got from the S7 Edge. The screen is not as good, but for me it is good enough. Otherwise it has been a fine phone. I'll probably jump to the next Samsung release when it comes out.
Hey guys currently im using a LG G4. I'm tired of not having a stable root, and bad battery.
Now i have a chance to buy this phone and sell my old lg g4 my question is, does it worth? How good the phone is compared to lg g4 and can you root/unlock, find a stable rom, use it as daily device? Thank you in advance.
I think it is a good device but the bootloader unlocking may not go as smooth as you would like. Lots of people have trouble unlocking.
Mine came already unlocked from aliexpress so...
But when unlocked i find root to be very stable.
Nice phone for 170 bucks or so.
its a good phone .....root is stable....performance is good....battery is good but need to fix a deep sleep problem by flashing two little things......
Everything is better on the Remi Pro except the screen resolution and camera quality. Camera on the G4 is much better, specialy in video recordin department. If the camera is not your main priority than buy this phone.
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I bought it yesterday night. Now I need to figure out how to get Eu stable rom. So far so good. Camera is not that bad compared to lg g4 and from half day usage I can say battery is much better. No regrets.
Basically went through the same decision. Was using G4 dual sim, really needed fingerprint reader for Exchange mailbox. Got redmi pro - amoled screen is much better for all around usage (IPS QHD on g4 is whiter and little bit more detailed, also has gorilla 3, but Redmi Pros screen is more pleasant to look at and you really cant tell the difference of the DPI on normal day to day usage), battery life is considerably better on redmi PRO (around 1000 more mAH, lower resolution screen + possibly weaker processor gives more battery life), build quality is quite good ( i could nitpick here and there, like the fingerprint button dipping a little bit too deep on the left side, for two weeks has not become a problem yet though. metal unibody feels good, although more slippery than leather G4). The camera is my only grudge - although I did not take that much pictures on my G4, I loved the possibility of deep manual control over the camera. With Redmis camera, pictures in the dark are quite bad - but then again the time to focus and actually take a picture are noticeably faster on Redmi, so everyday snaps (for work, facebook chat and so on) are less of a hassle.
One of the true negative sides, is the lack of LTE 800 mhz(band 20 ) on the REDMI, as that is used here by all of the carriers. On G4 I had great 4g coverage indoors and on the road (countrysides, highways), Redmi falls short here, and lives mostly on 3g/3g+, rarely dropping to Edge - although I do get my 10ish mb download speed on the 3g, the networks used to be overburdened a year ago (especially 3g bands, now it is a bit better), so 4g was a saviour. Also the lack of a dedicated SD-card slot is a negative side, although not really a problem. I am yet to decide, if I'm keeping redmi pro as my main device - lack of 800mhz 4g being the only real decisive factor.
On the software side, I flashed Xiaomi EU rom - Sim toolkit started working (did not work on chinese version). Coming from LG factory roms, also having used CM and AOSP mods earlier, miui is a really well made "skin" for android. It is so well made actually, I wouldnt even call it a skin - the design and the configuration possibilites are very good. Besides only few small things, I would place miui over LG, Samsung and AOSP/CM in that regard. Few small gripes I have, is that I cannot seem to assign contacts to a specific sim (for calling purpouses - for example, i want work numbers to always call on sim 2, private numbers on sim1. right now I have to click and hold on the contact/number, and on the menu select Dial with sim X, where x is 1 or 2). In the dialer there are 2 call buttons for each sim, but that works only if you input the number manually. On LG G4, you could easily swap between two sims (selecting the main sim), or assign a sim for a contact.
Another problem, what is starting to get me a little bit, is the dropping of the 3g network - or rather the downstream part. On random times, all downloading ceases yet the phone shows upstream is still active. Sometimes this corrects itself in a minute or two, but when you need the connection now, you have to toggle mobile data off and on. This does not happen with Wifi. It might be the problem with the xiaomi.eu rom, as during the few days I used the factory Chinese rom, I did not notice this.
So basically for me, it comes down to the 4g 800mhz support, which for whatever reason, a lot of chinese phones lack (something to do with India laws?). Otherwise, for 180€ ish euros, this is a great buy ( if it does not degrade over time too quickly, especially the software part).
That's a very good post and very informative. Thank you for time. I hope people can benefit from it.
I have no regret so far. Great battery compared to lg 4. Submitted for the unlocking procedure. I want to have eu rom too. Hope it won't take long.
i think about seling it, miui is day by day more worst. phone is good, amoled is not real amoled, if you put black image and go in a dark room you will se pixel is not closed, not pure dark, only brownish.
Hi fellows !
So I had my n910c for more than 2.5 years now and my worst problem is that I am bored of it .
The phone is still perfect for what I need : big screen, ok battery (I got a new one in 2017), ok sound (very loud), S pen is cool and all so I can't find any legit reason to upgrade for now .
But next year I will definitely replace it (if not for any good reason, just to have something new lol) so I was looking at this year end phablets and don't like the new trends at all . Pretty much every phone out there is 18:9 or worse (I hate 18:9 cause it's bad for youtube, many games(read hearthstone) and twitch - my favorite 3 activities), lost the removable battery and get exponentially more expensive than 2-3 years ago . The only 2 phones I like are mate 10 (regular version) and razer phone (pretty much the only ones that still have big screen with proper aspect ratio and acceptable price tag) .
Let's discuss: What are your thoughts about current smartphones ? Did you recently upgrade or plan to ?
I never got rid of my Note 4.
It's the best phone I've ever had.
I bought a Mate 9 which was excellent... No pen.
Bought Xiaomi Mi6 - VERY sexy, too small.
OnePlus 3T - very fast, rapid software updates completely different approach
Htc U11 - Marvelous device, great technology, good camera, again very different approach.
The Note 4 stand out in all aspects. Though it's old, I still use it everyday. I bought multiple batteries so really, I'm keeping it as long as I can.
Not worth selling, just keep it and buy another phone. The Note 8 I think it's too expensive for now.... And a little too safe, as are the Mate 10 & 10 pro, so I'm going to wait a year and see.
Good luck.
r33fd said:
Hi fellows !
So I had my n910c for more than 2.5 years now and my worst problem is that I am bored of it .
The phone is still perfect for what I need : big screen, ok battery (I got a new one in 2017), ok sound (very loud), S pen is cool and all so I can't find any legit reason to upgrade for now .
But next year I will definitely replace it (if not for any good reason, just to have something new lol) so I was looking at this year end phablets and don't like the new trends at all . Pretty much every phone out there is 18:9 or worse (I hate 18:9 cause it's bad for youtube, many games(read hearthstone) and twitch - my favorite 3 activities), lost the removable battery and get exponentially more expensive than 2-3 years ago . The only 2 phones I like are mate 10 (regular version) and razer phone (pretty much the only ones that still have big screen with proper aspect ratio and acceptable price tag) .
Let's discuss: What are your thoughts about current smartphones ? Did you recently upgrade or plan to ?
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If you don't miss the pen, get the V20. It's an upgrade in terms of everything, and the software is better. Sure the screen isn't as saturated, but it's great otherwise. And it does have KCAL-enabled kernels.
I personally will still keep my N910S though. Extremely smooth with PRIME-Kernel, stock ROMs and proper kernel settings.
Razor... hands down.
I'd get the Note 8 as I am a AMOLED fanboy.
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Razor... hands down.
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I was really hyped about it too .
But then I read reviews and the display quality and battery life are terrible, most likely worse than note 4 even . (Actually very few new phones can claim a better display quality than note 4 anyway, only new Samsung are really better - in brightness mostly)
This year there really isn't any device to rule them all .
The best phone this year imo is probably mate 10 pro . cause it has the best battery on any flagship and really nice features (ir blaster, stereo speakers etc) . But even this has some disadvantages compared to our beloved note (smaller screen real estate in most important apps right now, no S pen obviously, no 3.5 jack! , no SD card, no removable battery (this is beyond hope at this point) .
For me if I'm not going to buy a note next (which I probably won't cause the price/quality is not great) I might as well get anything cause they all do the same thing more or less . (Nothing compares to S pen .)
Will probably wait for a nice budget offering to appear till next year . Fingers crossed for oneplus 5t and Honor v10 to be good phones and low on price .
Hi!
I just was asking myself the same question, since sadly my Note 4 broke down.
A smartphone without pen is no alternative for me, since I have long fingernails and can’t really use today’s standard touchscreens.
I first wanted to just buy the Note 4 again. When I looked up the prices on Amazon.de, the black one (new) was at ~350€, the white one at ~400€. Wow, and that for a three year old model? I looked at the Note 8 and it was 850€ then. Holy sh**t.
My Note 4 started working again for a week, so I thought I might be safe. Then it died again, maybe forever (yeah, I checked the forum, nothing works, just plain dead).
So I went to Amazon again… and the black Note 4 was at ~400€ now, the white (my original one) at ~550€! Wtf happened? Maybe Samsung bought all the old models to push the Note 8?
Note 8 had dropped to 800€ so I thought I’d give it a try without really reading anything about it.
I have it since yesterday and my first ten minutes were like “who the hell designed this”.
You need to push in the pen before you then can pull it out.
The finger print reader is hidden on the back, next to the camera, I need five times to find it.
SIM card / SD card in some tiny tray not designed for clumsy people (you need an extra metal pin thingy, pretty sure easy to loose)
With the pen it is a bit tricky to move around items on the homescreen due to the edges of the screen.
Slippery back surface.
Built in battery.
Ridiculous size.
On the plus side:
the biometrical recognition is cool (while unsafe-ish),
it’s waterproof,
excellent (!) screen.
For its size it is very light.
The new OS is really nice.
Battery life is good.
And it has a pen again.
After using it for a few days I got used to it and kinda could warm up to the device… the fingerprint reader is driving me nuts, but the size is really convenient after a while.
However "I can get used to it" is not something I pay 800€ for.
I ordered a used Note 4 for 300€ and will send the Note 8 back once it arrives. Then I will watch the price and may buy it at around ~500€.
tl;dr:
If you don’t care for money and just love new stuff, I can recommend checking the Note 8 out.
If you just want a decent phone, stick to your Note 4 and be happy with it.
Regards
cherryfish
If there was a better phone, I would have bought it, but unfortunately I can't find one.
Oneplus 5T looks nice, but it's bigger than Note, I won't buy any phone that's even one mm larger than note 4.
Note 8 is way too tall and narrow. And expensive.
LG V30 looks the best alternative, but it's not widely available and has no S-pen, as nearly every other phone.
Note 4 is getting old and I would surely like to make a change, but I can't find a proper replacement. I really don't know!
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I was really hyped about it too .
But then I read reviews and the display quality and battery life are terrible, most likely worse than note 4 even . (Actually very few new phones can claim a better display quality than note 4 anyway, only new Samsung are really better - in brightness mostly)
This year there really isn't any device to rule them all .
The best phone this year imo is probably mate 10 pro . cause it has the best battery on any flagship and really nice features (ir blaster, stereo speakers etc) . But even this has some disadvantages compared to our beloved note (smaller screen real estate in most important apps right now, no S pen obviously, no 3.5 jack! , no SD card, no removable battery (this is beyond hope at this point) .
For me if I'm not going to buy a note next (which I probably won't cause the price/quality is not great) I might as well get anything cause they all do the same thing more or less . (Nothing compares to S pen .)
Will probably wait for a nice budget offering to appear till next year . Fingers crossed for oneplus 5t and Honor v10 to be good phones and low on price .
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It's a device built for gaming first, then smartphone... and software is built to take full advantage of hardware. Battery size is very good and display is built with only techno that can take advantage of high refresh rate. With all that said software adjustment are built in to extend battery when not gaming. I love this phone. More notably, I love the idea of this phone.
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If you don't miss the pen, get the V20. It's an upgrade in terms of everything, and the software is better. Sure the screen isn't as saturated, but it's great otherwise. And it does have KCAL-enabled kernels.
I personally will still keep my N910S though. Extremely smooth with PRIME-Kernel, stock ROMs and proper kernel settings.
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this. if i didn't have the note 4, the V20 would have been my choice. last flagship phone with removable battery . the hifi dac is a plus too.
I recently moved from Note 3 to Note 4 ... not because my Note 3 was having any issue... just because I figured there aren't go to be many gently used Note 4's up for sale in the next couple years, so grabbed a nearly new one while I could!
I know I'm preaching to the choir, but:
- excellent build quality and repairability
- removable battery
- headphone jack
- pen
- able to install Lineage ROM
I've been hoping consumer backlash would force vendors to return to a removable batter and headphone jack, but no... lemmings will be lemmings.
It's a problem. I still love my Note 4 but, like the OP, am ready to try something new. I've ordered the Mate 10 (regular), as it seemed to check the most boxes I care about: IR blaster, expandable storage, super-long battery life, front-facing fingerprint sensor that can double as a touchpad, splash-resistant, 3.1 Type C USB, dual-sim, and same size (but 10 grams heavier) as the Note 4. Excellent sound and excellent camera (Leica). And comes with Oreo. But no S-pen and no replaceable battery. So we'll see. Not putting the Note 4 on ebay yet!
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I recently moved from Note 3 to Note 4 ... not because my Note 3 was having any issue... just because I figured there aren't go to be many gently used Note 4's up for sale in the next couple years, so grabbed a nearly new one while I could!
I know I'm preaching to the choir, but:
- excellent build quality and repairability
- removable battery
- headphone jack
- pen
- able to install Lineage ROM
I've been hoping consumer backlash would force vendors to return to a removable batter and headphone jack, but no... lemmings will be lemmings.
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Unfortunately, Many of those lemmings reside right here on XDA now days. It was extremely sad to see members vehemently defend Samsung's decision to remove the battery, lR sensor, and SD card in the note 5... Then later defend the decision to lock the bootloader on later Samsung devices.
Wake TF up people!
I'm still loving the Note 4. Rooted, audio boosted, Titanium Backup installed, 256gb SD card and of course a spare battery in my wallet to go back to 100% charge in less than a minute.
I have noticed many of the 8 series Samsungs are getting really bad screen burn, no such issue with the Note 4 AMOLED panel.
I have a brand new one sitting in a cupboard in case anything happens to this one.
Everyone wants a bigger (or removable) battery and literally no-one wants waterproofing but all the manufacturers follow trends so that's where we're at. The Note 8 is truly horrible.
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Everyone wants a bigger (or removable) battery and literally no-one wants waterproofing but all the manufacturers follow trends so that's where we're at. The Note 8 is truly horrible.
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waterproofing is for latin america (or america in general), as theres lots of humidity and heavy rains over there. In europe we don't need it much, except for those that tend to drop their devices in a bath.
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I recently moved from Note 3 to Note 4 ... not because my Note 3 was having any issue... just because I figured there aren't go to be many gently used Note 4's up for sale in the next couple years, so grabbed a nearly new one while I could!
I know I'm preaching to the choir, but:
- excellent build quality and repairability
- removable battery
- headphone jack
- pen
- able to install Lineage ROM
I've been hoping consumer backlash would force vendors to return to a removable batter and headphone jack, but no... lemmings will be lemmings.
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Same here! I still haven't gotten rid of my Note 3 though. It's running a custom ROM (Note 7 port) and my Note 4 is running stock for now.
My Note 3 is brand new and my Note 4 I bought used.
Both have their pro's and con's
The Note 4 has a lot of flaws... poor battery life (probably common to android) and poor build quality, but there's nothing else like it on the market.
There is a big gap in the market for a smartphone with a stylus and a 16:9 flat screen. Now that Samsung is curving all of its screens another manufacturer will have to take over.
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The Note 4 has a lot of flaws... poor battery life (probably common to android) and poor build quality, but there's nothing else like it on the market.
There is a big gap in the market for a smartphone with a stylus and a 16:9 flat screen. Now that Samsung is curving all of its screens another manufacturer will have to take over.
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I don't agree about the battery life .
It might be because you have an old battery but I have one from 2017 and it lasts pretty well . For example today I was at 45 percent with over 3.5 h SoT and 2 days of usage . I think that is more than decent even if not the best out there . Also if I just use the stylus to write in the note app the battery lasts forever .
The build quality is just fine, never had a problem with it in more than 2,5 years . Definitely better than the glass we see everywhere . As long as you don't drop it into water it should be fine .
That's why I can't justify spending money to buy a new phone yet : there just isn't anything I can complain much about the note . I wish I had the newest SoC and camera sure, but the ones on the note are still more than well suited for what I need . Other than that this phone is still perfect for me: the display is one of the best in the market still (don't need that 18/9 gimmick) , the speaker still one of the loudest and clearest (better than the latest samsungs for sure) , and with root the software can do pretty much anything I can think of .
I might just keep this phone until it dies or something exceptional appears. Really hope the s9 comes with loud (stereo) speakers (poor audio is a deal breaker for me) and maybe a more solid material (glass is so fragile - it's a shame to spend a bucket of money on a luxurious smartphone only to hide it into a case , that's just stupid , I never used a case on note 4 and it's still in great shape) .
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I don't agree about the battery life .
It might be because you have an old battery but I have one from 2017 and it lasts pretty well . For example today I was at 45 percent with over 3.5 h SoT and 2 days of usage . I think that is more than decent even if not the best out there . Also if I just use the stylus to write in the note app the battery lasts forever .
The build quality is just fine, never had a problem with it in more than 2,5 years . Definitely better than the glass we see everywhere . As long as you don't drop it into water it should be fine .
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I migrated from a Lumia 1520, even older than the Note 4 and from defunct Windows Mobile platform. Battery life of the Note 4 is less than half even with a new battery, gets hot from easy tasks, and it feels much cheaper. It does have a stylus, and all the apps though. I think the market is just not that great for power users at the moment so we stay on old phones.
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I migrated from a Lumia 1520, even older than the Note 4 and from defunct Windows Mobile platform. Battery life of the Note 4 is less than half even with a new battery, gets hot from easy tasks, and it feels much cheaper. It does have a stylus, and all the apps though. I think the market is just not that great for power users at the moment so we stay on old phones.
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You are right . The lumia has an outstanding battery . I saw on GSM arena it had a score over 105h endurance . You just can't get that with android . Even something like a mate 10 pro scores over 10h less due to the power hungry os .
Hopefully next your will be better for power users .