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My ramblings about Moto X as a GNex replacement

I'm on Verizon and have a stunningly good plan (4 people unlimited data $10 - $10 for all 4 combined) so I have to buy off market phones.
I had/have a GNEX that I use with 2 extended batteries. It's starting to show it's age but it's still useful. I also use a Nexus 7 so I don't really depend on the phone.
I jumped on the Moto X developer edition deal even though I really wanted a Note 3.
It's unquestionably better but I'm current suffering from buyers remorse. There's not a lot it can do that I couldn't already. It's nice that it integrates better with my car and while I don't use voice much I could see myself doing it more (apart from that really annoying loud confirmation beep).
IT seems smaller, partly because it is and partly because of the extended battery I was using but it makes the screen feel smaller. I'm worried about the battery life.
Just rambling though and welcome any comments.

What were you looking for it to do? You never said. There's not much a GNex can't do compared to any other Nexus device

Give it a week. These days, phones are so similar, it's hard not feel underwhelmed at first. Felt the same way about my Note 3 and Nexus 5 when I first got them. Moto X has features that you'll grow to love and use.

aimfire72 said:
Give it a week. These days, phones are so similar, it's hard not feel underwhelmed at first. Felt the same way about my Note 3 and Nexus 5 when I first got them. Moto X has features that you'll grow to love and use.
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I hope so! Had my phone for 4 days now, still don't know if I truly love this phone vs a nexus 5...
It feels great and is faster than my old S2, but the N5 was/is so tempting.
MotoX is solid and I am starting to like active notifications. It is the same size as my S2 which I love, but still ehh, maybe I will like something bigger...
Grass is always greener right?

It's not surprising you feel buyer's remorse. You wanted a Note 3, which is much larger than the Moto X. I went from a Gnex to a Nexus 4 which is slightly larger, and then to a Moto X which is smaller but has the same screen size as the Nexus 4. Apart from the size, going from Gnex to Moto X should feel like a pretty good upgrade as Moto X is better than Gnex in almost every respect.
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I don't understand what the OP was thinking. Moto X over the Note 3? They're 2 different phones that serve two different purposes. If you mostly use the Nexus 7, then what was the point in upgrading? If you simply had a itch to scratch, going to the store and toying around is infinitely better than this situation.

I have a Nexus 7 and now a Moto X and love the combination of the 2 together. I came from a Note 2 which was a great phone but I found my self wanting it to be larger and at the same time wanting it to be smaller. Multimedia is great now on my Nexus 7 and my Moto X is the perfect phone to compliment the tablet. I had a Nexus 5 but returned it for the Moto X and am glad that I did (not knocking the Nexus 5 because it is probably the 2nd best phone being sold now imo).

alpha-niner64 said:
I don't understand what the OP was thinking. Moto X over the Note 3? They're 2 different phones that serve two different purposes. If you mostly use the Nexus 7, then what was the point in upgrading? If you simply had a itch to scratch, going to the store and toying around is infinitely better than this situation.
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Try $350 over $759 ? At $750 I was not going to buy a new phone. When the Moto X deal came out I got excited and jumped on it

alpha-niner64 said:
I don't understand what the OP was thinking. Moto X over the Note 3? They're 2 different phones that serve two different purposes. If you mostly use the Nexus 7, then what was the point in upgrading? If you simply had a itch to scratch, going to the store and toying around is infinitely better than this situation.
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Exactly...not even close to being the same phones. First of all the Nexus was a piece of garbage, battery reception etc...X is a million times better in every way.
Seems like a bait thread to start a flame war. Bye

jmill75 said:
Exactly...not even close to being the same phones. First of all the Nexus was a piece of garbage, battery reception etc...X is a million times better in every way.
Seems like a bait thread to start a flame war. Bye
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Wait... you say something inflammatory like "Nexus was a piece of garbage" and then say someone is baiting to start a flame war? Holy hipocrisy, Batman.
I think "ramblings" fits the original post well, though, since nothing about it is coherent.
There's nothing on it that you couldn't already do? Well, except for, you know, some of the main selling points like always-on voice control and active notifications. Anyway, there's arguably nothing meaningful on any phone you couldn't, in some way or another, already do.
Then a couple weird comments... It makes the screen feel smaller? The screen is not smaller. If it feels smaller, but isn't smaller, isn't that good? You're worried about battery life, but supply no reason why you are concerned?
Nothing wrong with rambling, I guess, but just be aware that people might look at this as bashing a phone without any substantive reason.

I love many things about the Moto X, but the Active Notifications feature is a game changer. After getting used to it I just can't imagine going back to another phone.

I had a Nexus 5, but went back to the Moto X. I also have a LG G2. I really like the X because of the active notifications and touchless controls. It also gives you somewhat of the vanilla android experience.
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Ha. I'll tell ya a few things the moto x can do the gnex couldn't:
Hold a signal. Ha. For real.
Make it through a day without a recharge
Active Notifications
Hold a signal.

SubliminalME said:
Ha. I'll tell ya a few things the moto x can do the gnex couldn't:
Hold a signal. Ha. For real.
Make it through a day without a recharge
Active Notifications
Hold a signal.
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How about...not feel slow, hah.
It's like upgrading computers back in the day, from a good ol 500mhz pentium to a 1ghz pentium. Sure, they perform all the same functions, but it moves so much more quickly and smoothly.

You're all so nice
I had no problems with GNex, no signal problems, no battery issues + I had an extended battery. Even last week I did not feel it was slow.
Moto X is definitely better, but my question (for me) is whether it's $400 better. Since I use the N7 for most stuff I'm not sure I need to spend $400 on a phone. Active Notifications are cool but I don't find them all that useful. I had an app for it before and quickly stopped using it. I think it's to do with how I use the phone. Voice Control is nice and I've been trying to use it but it's not really my nature to talk to my phone
Perhaps the best thing about it, and perhaps the reason I will keep it, is that it integrates really well with my new car. This means I am not using Assist but it's worth it since it will interrupt radio and other things with text messages, read them out and let me auto reply. GNex just did calls and audio.
I really like Assist for driving but it's not getting used.
Screen seems smaller means that the actual screen seems small to me, it's a visual thing based on having a larger phone. Having more trouble typing on it for some reason, again probably because I'm used to the bigger feel.
Battery life will be key since I used a large extended battery and carried a spare. Rarely used the spare but did sometimes.
So don't get too defensive, it's a better phone, just not sure if I want to spend the money.

I find this threat to be somewhat useful amd amusing for a couple of reasons. First, the devices I have owned:
1 OG Droid--First with GPS/Google Maps, and my first smartphone. For me, ground-breaking
2 Galaxy Nexus--Mt first Nexus device. Face unlock is new, and performance is a major, major jump over my OG Droid, and the OG was rooted and rom'ed. GNex rooted, until warranty replacement 6 months ago. Stock since.
Nexus 7 wifi tablet (2013)--tethered to GNex
3 Moto-X VZW Developer Edition-- Faster than the GNex, by far. Much, much better battery. Seemingly smaller dev community support, but smoother out of the box than my best days with the GNex rom'ed. NFC unlock (as soon as my skip arrives with wife's MotoMaker). Active notifications. Quick camera unlock (wrist twist). Always listening feature for Google Now/Search. Unexpected quick upgrade to 4.4,
So, yes the phone is better in all respects than the GNex it replaces, but the gap in performance between the OG Droid and the GNex is LARGER than the gap in performance between the GNex and the Mot0-X, in my opinion.
I've only had this Moto-X for 4 days so far. I like that the bootloader is unlocked, AND I still have some warranty protection. Though the screen size is the same as the GNEX (I think), the Moto-X fits in the hand better (for me), and in the pocket as well (lighter, thinner).
I also see more bars of 4G LTE with the Moto-X, though I doubt the bars are an accurate measure of reception. I do know that Motorola radios are typically heralded as among the best.
So far, I am thrilled with this device.

vespadaddy, I've followed the EXACT same path as you OG, GNex, N7, MotoX. So I know you know what I am talking/rambling about
Do you use bluetooth in the car? I'm finding the MotoX is having problems the GNex didn't.

homemadehitshow said:
vespadaddy, I've followed the EXACT same path as you OG, GNex, N7, MotoX. So I know you know what I am talking/rambling about
Do you use bluetooth in the car? I'm finding the MotoX is having problems the GNex didn't.
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In moved from the N4 to the moto x and am quite pleased!
And don't forget, the moto x doesn't have to be $400 better than the galaxy nexus. The moto x is $250 better...because you can sell your GN for $150ish!

Typically I do sell gear but I had planned to keep the GNex just in case as a backup (my son has one also and he's likely to break his). I might find some media player use for it also.
I had thought of it in a similar way. I get to keep my super plan and it would have cost me at least $200 to get a new device and lose my plan.

homemadehitshow said:
vespadaddy, I've followed the EXACT same path as you OG, GNex, N7, MotoX. So I know you know what I am talking/rambling about
Do you use bluetooth in the car? I'm finding the MotoX is having problems the GNex didn't.
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Ruh roh. I do use bluetooth in the car. I've got a Mitsubishi with a stock bluetooth-capable stereo. Given that the Nexus 7 is so much snappier than the GNex, I have been using the Nexus as my music source in the car, via bluetooth.
Are you having problems pairing the Moto-X? I have not yet tried this, as my wife left the car in an airport lot for a work trip. As soon as she brings it back (likely tomorrow), I'll try and pai my Moto X and see how google music works.

Phone comparison/alternatives to Ri

After spamming the 4.4 update thread with phone comparison things, I decided to open a new thread.
Here we can compare other devices with the RAZR I and debate about stuff like that.
Now I will start.
After getting more and more problems with my RAZR I I decided to buy a new phone. I was searching for several weeks and now I have a moto X.(in Germany, bought via eBay, using Verizon KK ROM with fully supported German language)
What I have noticed so far:
-the X perfectly fits in your hand with a acceptable weight
-the battery consumption is better than the Ri's ( I get easy 20h of (my) normal use; Ri got only ~17h)
-the screen have a much higher resolution
-the X have a better performance, up to now I doesn't had any lags.
-the voice from outgoing calls is very clear, a bit better than the Ri; the voice quality of incoming calls depends on the calling phone
-both cameras of the X are better than the Ri's, but it have also problems when the light is low
-active display and touchless control are pretty neat
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Do we think the RAZR I will get 4.4
I hope moto let us know soon.
All the best
Moley
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I can't accept no slot for microSD on moto g and x. Even new version of RAZR m, droid mini there is no slot
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I think it is not fair to compare the Razr i against the X. The Moto X is without question the better phone by far, but that comes along with the fact that the X is a fully fledged flagship model of an Android and the Razr is and was a budget phone with medium specs. So a comparison can only be fair, if you compare it to phones in the same league like the Moto G, HTC One Mini, Samsung 4 mini and so on..
I recently had a Moto G in my hands and I can say that this phone is really remarkable, nice specs, nice design and it works like a charm. The only things that I noticed that are not to my liking is the bad camera and it is a bit too big for its own good. For my personal taste 4.3 is a perfect form factor, 4.5 is 0.2 inches too much. Also it is a bit thicker than the Razr i, so with my tiny little hands the G felt a bit bigger in my hands. Im not sure, if I just have to get used to that, but I really like the slim look and feel of the Razr i in comparison.

bongofred said:
I think it is not fair to compare the Razr i against the X. The Moto X is without question the better phone by far, but that comes along with the fact that the X is a fully fledged flagship model of an Android and the Razr is and was a budget phone with medium specs. So a comparison can only be fair, if you compare it to phones in the same league like the Moto G, HTC One Mini, Samsung 4 mini and so on..
I recently had a Moto G in my hands and I can say that this phone is really remarkable, nice specs, nice design and it works like a charm. The only things that I noticed that are not to my liking is the bad camera and it is a bit too big for its own good. For my personal taste 4.3 is a perfect form factor, 4.5 is 0.2 inches too much. Also it is a bit thicker than the Razr i, so with my tiny little hands the G felt a bit bigger in my hands. Im not sure, if I just have to get used to that, but I really like the slim look and feel of the Razr i in comparison.
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Same here, I also think that Moto X is currently the best phone on the market but still little to big for me.
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bongofred said:
I think it is not fair to compare the Razr i against the X. The Moto X is without question the better phone by far, but that comes along with the fact that the X is a fully fledged flagship model of an Android and the Razr is and was a budget phone with medium specs. So a comparison can only be fair, if you compare it to phones in the same league like the Moto G, HTC One Mini, Samsung 4 mini and so on..
I recently had a Moto G in my hands and I can say that this phone is really remarkable, nice specs, nice design and it works like a charm. The only things that I noticed that are not to my liking is the bad camera and it is a bit too big for its own good. For my personal taste 4.3 is a perfect form factor, 4.5 is 0.2 inches too much. Also it is a bit thicker than the Razr i, so with my tiny little hands the G felt a bit bigger in my hands. Im not sure, if I just have to get used to that, but I really like the slim look and feel of the Razr i in comparison.
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I agree entirely.
I picked up a G over Christmas to cheer myself up a bit and to find out what all the fuss was about - is this phone really as good as they say for such a ridiculously low price? Well in my opinion yes, and more.
I'd had a number of frustrations with my XT890: random lagginess, certains apps not being compatible, battery life not being quite as good as I expected, amongst others. The one thing I absolutely love about the '90 though is the form factor and build quality, so IMO how does the G stack up against it? Well it's now very much my main phone.
Overall I find it's quicker and smoother with nowhere near as many lags, although whether this is down to JB 4.3, the chip, or a combination of both I have no idea, but for me it works better. The build quality is exemplary. It doesn't in any way look or feel like a plastic phone and is a rock solid build, which is a lesson Samsung should learn and I'm not talking about their budget end either. Battery life is better, beautiful screen, and couldn't be happier. True, the camera's c*** but I'm not going to use it anyway,so a big thumbs up!

Thank you for the voice quality comparison on the Moto X that is great info!!!! Can someone comment on the same thing regarding the G?

adddaamo said:
Same here, I also think that Moto X is currently the best phone on the market but still little to big for me.
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But it's only the X's screen size which is bigger than moto G's. These phone have nearly the same shape.
And the moto x doesn't feel so big.
To the problem with no SD-card-slot:
Yes that was the one point annoying me, but to be serious, even the nexus phones haven't such a slot and Google presents how they think a android phone have to look like with this phones, so I think the sd-card-slot will die out slowly.
So I bought a developer edition with 32GB of storage. That is enough for me, I've used the RAZR I with the internal 8GB plus a 16GB SD card and even that was okay.
On the other hand we have to look at the battery consumption. A device which have to handle a internal and a external storage needs more energy. Also are SD cards mostly slower than the build in storage, which means that we lose performance.
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In my opinion the SD card slot is only needed, if the phone has insufficient internal memory. 16 GB is just not enough for today's needs. At least for me it is not. 32 and plus of storage is a must have. That's why I didn't get a new nexus device or will not get the Moto G.
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I agree on the storage issue. My iPhone 5s has 64GB and only has about 20 gigs left. It will probably be quite full in a year or two. Why phones aren't offered with 128 or heck even 512 gigs is beyond me. They are the main computers in many of our lives now. They can charge pretty much anything they want for it and a lot of us will pay.

the asus zenPhone 5'@720p, atom z2580, 8gb + sd card, android 4.3, update to 4.4, for only 150 U$S its really the moto g killer.

I found the LG Nexus 4 a great replacement for my old Motorola Razr i, and it's even cheaper here on my country...

Moto G
I'm thinking about to sell my Razr i for 200€ and buy the Moto G for 169€ or even the one for 199€. My Razr i looks like freshly taken from the box, not one scratch, nothing. And there is a 64GB memory card with it. If I install the stock ROM then there is only the warning about the unlocked bootloader that reminds you that it is a used device.
I bought the 64GB card to listen to music, back when I was going to school but now it's a different situation and I don't have the time to listen to music on my smartphone, especially since I have a car now. And even if I wanna listen to music on my phone I think 16GB or even 8GB would be enough.

xNeo92x said:
I'm thinking about to sell my Razr i for 200€ and buy the Moto G for 169€ or even the one for 199€. My Razr i looks like freshly taken from the box, not one scratch, nothing. And there is a 64GB memory card with it. If I install the stock ROM then there is only the warning about the unlocked bootloader that reminds you that it is a used device.
I bought the 64GB card to listen to music, back when I was going to school but now it's a different situation and I don't have the time to listen to music on my smartphone, especially since I have a car now. And even if I wanna listen to music on my phone I think 16GB or even 8GB would be enough.
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always aim for more, not less, better wait for the asus zen Phones

YaPeL said:
always aim for more, not less, better wait for the asus zen Phones
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Or wait what Motorola is going to present next week in the UK.
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I'm really not trying to troll here, just relaying my experience over the last two months:
I've been on Android for 3 years. Before, I was using WindowsMobile 6, and version 5 before that, until Microsoft stupidly killed that incredibly diverse ecosystem and made me and millions of others jump to Android. I had a clamshell Razr V3i before that that was an astonishingly good and beautifully hackable phone for the time - it was a great web browser with opera mini and I could email from it too, fantastic voice quality that could be tuned with a hex editor, and excellent radio/reception. It took a microSD so I used it as an MP3 player too. Moto typically has great build quality and radios though they definitely have released some total junk phones along the way too, I think I had a V551(??) that was dog poop, and several moto phones the camera broke on for no reason, usually a hardware failure like one of the internal lenses becoming dislodged, even if the phone was never dropped.
My *personal opinion* is that Android was most stable, useful and hackable at version 2.3 and has had been becoming progressively less stable and ever more locked down since. I have a Nexus 7 that I just leave stock and let it autoupdate whenever it feels like it to see what the latest edition of Android and latest versions of all my apps always look like; I've watched in horror as android and the Android app ecosystem has become a bug ridden laggy crashy malware adware spyware filled unholy mess over the last 12 months, as bad as Windows 98/XP ever was. Previously, as an android user I had always felt a little bit... i don't know... "more savvy" than iPhone users because Android was (supposedly) less expensive and I could make it do anything I wanted. But with the update to 4.1 on my RAZR i, I could no longer WIFI tether (it could tether with 4.0 but then Moto locked out tethering HARD and no one has figured a way around it) and that just made me really POed.
Then I also thought about it and realized I had EIGHT android devices and I was spending a ton of money always buying new android phones because that was usually the only way I could run the latest OS. I've for three years always been waiting/hoping that I'll get the next version of android when it is released, and usually all my hopes were dashed. Yes I did all the cyanagenmod/etc reflashing stuff for a while but that's always a little risky and after 10 or so flashes constantly trying out roll your own OS turns into a real time consumer, often gives me new bugs when I was trying eliminate other old bugs, and for some devices, namely the RAZRi, sometimes just not an option. My original Moto RAZR has a locked bootloader that was never really worked around. I was getting so sick of waiting around all of the time.
And I was noticing that there were people with iPhones many years old still using them, still happy with them. I played with a friends iPhone 3GS a year ago and was impressed with how smooth it was even then with supposedly far less hardware than my RAZR, and how happy she still was with it - and I noticed how aggravated I was with my RAZR.
So WTF, two months ago I bought a new iPhone 5s 64gb. It was Very
Expensive... but not really compared to the highest end Moto X, which was the other phone I was considering.
At first it was super annoying, not intuitive at all coming from android, lots of the design decisions seemed stupid. But I stuck with it, finally got used to everything about 3 weeks ago, and now two months after purchase I can say from my heart, and my head, it just blows Android out of the water right at this time. It is ROCK SOLID in hardware build and software stability, an order of magnitude above any android devices. I just can't stress enough how stable ios is compared to android. It took me many weeks to figure out all the workarounds I needed to do stuff like tethering, swype, etc, but now it does everything I can do on android.
I have two phones (work/personal), and this week I needed a second phone to replace my Razr i (which now has a new issue of blurry focus camera that I fix by banging it with my hand... i never dropped it... sigh), so I I just bought a used perfect condition 64gb Iphone 5 for $400. Goodbye Android for now.
There are hundreds of teensy little software and hardware design decisions in the iPhone that just make it so *pleasant* to use all the time. It makes all versions of android seem so rough and unpolished when I use my other android devices.
In the long run I think the iPhones will be either a wash cost wise, or maybe a little cheaper because now I can instead of buying a new Android phone every few months in hopes of finally having one that is solid and stable, I'll likely keep these iPhones for 2-3+ years and I'm guaranteed years of the most recent OS, available as soon as announced. But cost aside, ios is just a completely stress free experience that lets me get on with life.
Oh one last thing, the responsiveness of the iPhone is *phenomenal* I read a few months ago this is because the electronic hardware itself for the touchscreen has about 1/3rd the lag time between touching the screen, and the OS getting the signal. It makes the display feel really really good all the time. Now when I use any android touch screen it just feels so slow and annoying. Battery life is at least double the RAZR i in my experience so far, mostly because there is never any crap running in the background that I can't turn off, like is always happening in android as soon as I add more than three apps.
I'm not an apple aficionado at all; as soon as I find something better than iPhone I'll jump ship immediately, but as far as I can tell iPhone 5s is the best there is right now.
tl;dr: the iPhone 5 and 5s are mindblowingly good compared to the hell and heartbreak that android has turned onto. YMMV

Unfortunately, I must agree. Apple is doing so many things better with iOS than Google with Android. I always liked Android for openness, community, tweaking abilities ... currently I even write soft for Android at work ... but still, I'm always waiting for new version of Android that will fix problems from current version, I'm looking for custom ROMS that will eliminate constant lag and solve other problems.
I liked Google because it was the best software company in the world, company that ideology I liked, but now ... it's changing. They've still got good software but ads are getting more aggressive than ever, Android is getting more and more closed, and it will be fully closed in future, so maybe it's time to start searching for something new. But anyway I think that Android will be the most popular OS for very, very long time.
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Yeah, I have to say, that you have right with much things you've said, but you couldn't forget that iOS is build by apple, so they can perfectly fit the software to the hardware and vice versa. Android is open source and Google couldn't specify it for one device, it have to be as much stable as possible for a lot of devices, that is the problem. That's the same with every open source os.
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Well, I just made the switch from Razr I to the Moto G, just because I was offered a good price for my Razr (pristine condition) and couldn't resist.
Wasn't expecting much really, but it actually feels like a good upgrade. The screen is TONS better and with Kitkat the menu buttons now are completely hidden in most apps, making the screen really 4.5 inches. The overall feel is faster, especially with apps like Maps and Chrome. Games run faster as well, for example Asphalt 8 plays perfect on high settings, while on the Razr I will run only on low.
The downsides are plastic instead of the metal and kevlar on the Razr, the screen is not edge to edge and the camera is worse (also no 1080p video).
But for me the bigger and better display and the faster performance are worth it.

I currently think about getting a Sony Z1 Compact.

Are you happy with it?

So through a whole of problems with the GS4, and a little stroke of luck, I happened upon a Moto X 2014. I must say, the phone is smooth as butter. But I still feel like something is missing. My battery isn't a great feet, my camera is poor at best. The phone however is the fastest and smoothest I've ever seen an android phone. It makes me melt. But after using the LG G2 which I had for 2 days before this....I miss it comparatively to this. Just as fast, much larger battery, beautiful screen. The Moto X doesn't even have a "power save" feature, and that would at lest be helpful. I almost want to wait for the Droid Turbo, but by then my 14 days would be up. I'm just not sure what to do. So my question to others.....Are you happy with this device? or would you switch, given the opportunity? If so, to what?

In happy, if the camera was better, I would be happier, but I'll hold out for L in hopes of improved camera performance. If not, I have another upgrade in April, maybe grab a turbo if it doesn't look as bad as it has in the leaked photos.

I'm think off going back the LG G2. The camera may be the breaking point for me.
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I don't take many pictures, but the ones I have taken have been fine. On par with a majority of the smart phones I have owned except a few that were above average. Most of them are just "meh" and any difference is still not great so I just don't let it get to me. If pictures were priority I would still be on the Lumia 930 hands down, or maybe the iPhone 6 plus, but not most of the Android handsets available that's for sure.
Overall I love the phone though. It just a great phone to use and really when it comes down to it that is what matters. There are things that could use improvement (screen brightness, camera, battery life). But none of those factors are BAD, just not exceptional. I get through a day with ease and the screen is fine except in bright sunlight. The phone makes up for it with a great feel and ease of use. Its super fast and fluid, and little things like ActiveDisplay just make it all that much better of an experience. Of all the phones I have owned in the last year (a lot) it is the first one I feel content with and not pining for a new phone (which is rare for me). I am excited for Android L .

I love my Moto X. I too came from a Galaxy S4 running CyanogenMOD and this is so smooth without having to do any tweaking whatsoever. I've had this phone for 11 days and I already try to wave my hand over other people's phones and expect it to just turn on when I pick it up. These may be new features I can't live without.

Short answer....best phone I have ever owned
I came from the HTC One, HTC One M8, and LG G3. Also had the Nexus 5 as my daily driver before leaving it for LG G3. ... This phone trumps them all (still use m8 for low light photos)
The bad......nothing really. The camera and battery are decent enough.....just nothing to brag on.
As far as performance....nothing is close. So smooth...so fast.....so fluid.
The phone screen looks amazing and the stereo headphone jack is provides the best sound I have heard outside of the HTCOne.
No phone is perfect.....but this phone came very close

I think it's too top heavy and not comfortable to hold. Maybe cuz I got leather and have a subconscious fear of scratching it or something. Ultimately, its fate w/me is doomed due to no root on verizon.
I'll give up the X if nexus comes out on verizon.

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I think it's too top heavy and not comfortable to hold. Maybe cuz I got leather and have a subconscious fear of scratching it or something. Ultimately, its fate w/me is doomed due to no root on verizon.
I'll give up the X if nexus comes out on verizon.
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This is the only downfall for me as well. I want gravitybox so bad. Just for the PIE controls so I can hide the nav bar. That extra screen real estate along with the one handed reachability would make this phone perfect for me.
I don't care about the camera quality, not a big deal for me. And the battery life is sufficient for me.

ChristianPreachr said:
So through a whole of problems with the GS4, and a little stroke of luck, I happened upon a Moto X 2014. I must say, the phone is smooth as butter. But I still feel like something is missing. My battery isn't a great feet, my camera is poor at best. The phone however is the fastest and smoothest I've ever seen an android phone. It makes me melt. But after using the LG G2 which I had for 2 days before this....I miss it comparatively to this. Just as fast, much larger battery, beautiful screen. The Moto X doesn't even have a "power save" feature, and that would at lest be helpful. I almost want to wait for the Droid Turbo, but by then my 14 days would be up. I'm just not sure what to do. So my question to others.....Are you happy with this device? or would you switch, given the opportunity? If so, to what?
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you'll be happy that L will bring this:
1. power saver built in
2. native code for camera stuff
3. project volt, which is supposed to help in battery
4. ...and much more
right now, there is nothing on the market that I want. so no, i would not switch. next year, maybe

after a week or so of using its okay. battery life sucks, i dont care about the camera, not sure why but many apps crash on it more than my nexus 5, and i can barely just barely see some hiccups/lag when navigating through the homescreen and some apps ill wait for android L tho

FLUFFYMANGOES said:
after a week or so of using its okay. battery life sucks, i dont care about the camera, not sure why but many apps crash on it more than my nexus 5, and i can barely just barely see some hiccups/lag when navigating through the homescreen and some apps ill wait for android L tho
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Do you have ART enabled?

This phone is not top heavy, the center of its mass is right in the middle of the phone.
Just balance it on the index finger and you will see.
Best phone I used so far as well. But I never had any flagship devices before. Just a last years moto x, moto g, galaxy i9070... and an HTC one m8 as a phone for work, that's it.
But I saw many friends struggling with flagships while I was enjoying my moto x 2013.
I gave the HTC one m8 back to my boss and use the mx2013 now for my work and the mx2014 for private uses.
The mx2013 gave me an excellent experience, so I had no other choice than buying its successor.
BTW I hated the m8 even compared to the mx2013.
If Motorola doesn't **** it up, I'll buy their devices for a long time.

I could not be happier
Battery life could be bettet but ive yet to run out of it after a full day of work

How do you enable ART and what does it change? I assume this is the ART vs dalvik thing?
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ChristianPreachr said:
How do you enable ART and what does it change? I assume this is the ART vs dalvik thing?
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It's in developer options. Don't enable it. Several users have reported an increase in force closes.

It's a bigger, faster, smoother moto x. If you liked the 2013 x but wanted something bigger, this will make you happy.

I like it, originally I let all the negative reviews get to me and even went back to my nexus 5 for a day. Then I realized how much nicer the moto x is. Its a great well rounded device. Unlocked bootloader with full warranty in tact, good camera, decent battery life, fast updates, near aosp and other great specs. Oh, and every time I'm on the phone I can smell wonderful leather lol.

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I like it, originally I let all the negative reviews get to me and even went back to my nexus 5 for a day. Then I realized how much nicer the moto x is. Its a great well rounded device. Unlocked bootloader with full warranty in tact, good camera, decent battery life, fast updates, near aosp and other great specs. Oh, and every time I'm on the phone I can smell wonderful leather lol.
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Unlocking the boot loader on the pure edition does not void the warranty? I have heard it does not but not sure.
sent from my 2014 moto X

jmtjr278 said:
Unlocking the boot loader on the pure edition does not void the warranty? I have heard it does not but not sure.
sent from my 2014 moto X
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That's what I read from the Motorola feedback network administrator, he said they are "treating the pure edition like the 2013 Dev edition."

I love it, but I am interested in seeing what the Turbo and Nexus 6 bring to table, especially since it'll be on VZW. That being said, jumping to 5.2" from 4.7" was noticeable, can't really imagine carrying around 5.96"...

I returned it :(

Well, I loved it initially ! Many sleepless nights and I was craving to have one for almost a month.
I understand the need to bring in better camera, better hardware, bigger screen and other better specs we all were craving for. Also, many people are crazy about it!
But, after using it for 2 days, I started thinking why google screwed up nexus 6 with SIZE and WEIGHT ! It is just too "BIG" and "HEAVY". It made my phone almost useless. I wish there was a nexus mini 6, which is lighter and smaller.
Being a nexus and google stock android maniac, I can't use any other cell phone but my nexus 5.
So, I am back to nexus 5. It does feel fresh with the lollipop update. And, I am happy about it.
I am ready to wait for one more year, hope google will pick the best one which is comfortable to use for all users next time !
P.S: It was just my experience and opinion. I am always an android lover. Don't BOMB me !

Heavy? I think you need to hit the gym bro.
Don't know how size and weight made your phone useless....
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You could try motox 2014, that is the closest to stock android in almost the n5 size.

Rauch said:
Heavy? I think you need to hit the gym bro.
Don't know how size and weight made your phone useless....
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I can see how the size of a phone can make it useless to some people...but the weight shouldn't be relevant. A mere 5-6 years ago (and less) phones were FAR chunkier and far heavy, and we hand no choice cause that was all there was on the market.
To the OP....their are plenty of GPE phones out there that have awesome specs, and the screen size you want. No need to wait another year.

Wow, heavy? Really? I don't see it as heavy at all. Especially for the size. To each his own I guess, but maybe you should've given it a few more days. Hasn't even been a week yet.

If anything the phone is solid, not heavy, which I'm enjoying.... I was doing wrist curls for the past month so maybe that's why it's n not heavy to me

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Heavy? I think you need to hit the gym bro.
Don't know how size and weight made your phone useless....
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Seriously. You know he doesn't even lift.

Hey, it's cool man... I hear Tampax is going to enter the cellphone market soon. I'm sure it will be something slim and lightweight... j/k

Phone size is a preference. I have had a large phone for years and prefer it. I understand that Google lost a lot of fans by going to a large phone. And many of you think they "messed up". But Google literally won my business by making a large device. And I know I'm not alone. I had been resigned to putting up with touchwiz another year when I found out about shamu. Point is Google did not mess up just because you choose a different device. And its OK to not want a large phone just as much as its OK to like a huge device. That's why they put out the whole be together not the same campaign.

Different strokes for different folks, I guess. I went from the rather diminutive 2013 Moto X to the Nexus 6 and I certainly have no regrets. It's big, yes, but after a few days with it, I'm very happy with my choice. So much easier to type on it than my X. Happy with the performance, screen resolution, camera. Front camera is kinda weak compared to my HTC M8, but love the rear shooter. Happy all around. Gets fantastic service, too. Even better than my Moto X, and that thing got excellent signal.

I can see where you are coming from. Would have definitely been nice is they released a smaller version.
For me though I was able to acclimate to the size rather quickly. Did not seem all that big and I never noticed the weight being an issue.

Ok, I still want mine. Good bye.
Ian B

Is it OK in the pocket?

Nexus 6 rawks! I like the bigness, matches my hands and everything. Good luck mate!
Disclaimer: my opinion.

Nah man, do not agree. At first I was hesitant to preorder as I thought it was too big. Then, I switched to Verizon and was forced to go to 6+ over iPhone 6 as it was on backorder. That made me realize that it was not too big lol. And comparing it to iPhone, you get better feel in the hand, more display, and perfect weight. I can't see myself going to a smaller display.

I actually was told by someone who wantes to hold me n6 that is was lighter then theyd imagine by it size, plus coming from the m8, didnt really feel a difference in weight.

Maybe you should look into the Moto X 2014.
Good luck with your next choice.
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ambichetan said:
Well, I loved it initially ! Many sleepless nights and I was craving to have one for almost a month.
I understand the need to bring in better camera, better hardware, bigger screen and other better specs we all were craving for. Also, many people are crazy about it!
But, after using it for 2 days, I started thinking why google screwed up nexus 6 with SIZE and WEIGHT ! It is just too "BIG" and "HEAVY". It made my phone almost useless. I wish there was a nexus mini 6, which is lighter and smaller.
Being a nexus and google stock android maniac, I can't use any other cell phone but my nexus 5.
So, I am back to nexus 5. It does feel fresh with the lollipop update. And, I am happy about it.
I am ready to wait for one more year, hope google will pick the best one which is comfortable to use for all users next time !
P.S: It was just my experience and opinion. I am always an android lover. Don't BOMB me !
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The size of the Nexus 6 is not for everyone. I do think however you did not use the phone long enough and give it a chance. Just like the Samsung Galaxy Note series, a high percentage of people whom really give the phone a chance for a reasonable amount of time end of keeping the "note" and stating later "everything else besides the note is too small".
There are some that will never like the size of phablets and subscribe to the life long Steve Jobs diatribe that phones and tablets are separate devices, in which apple as a company changed their tune later.
I do think your making a mistake though. IBM predicted years ago that the future of the computer would be a PC "walkman like device". The calaboration of computer, phone, and music Walkman device are in the phablet. You need to have a big enough screen to have a true "mobile desktop experience" in a phone. Really, that experience envisioned is with 6 inch sized phones and higher. It won't stop here there will be 6 inch + phones with smaller bezels and those that fold/bend. This is the vision that the IBM had. Lenovo now being the owners of IBM and Motorola.

dtblair24 said:
I can see where you are coming from. Would have definitely been nice is they released a smaller version.
For me though I was able to acclimate to the size rather quickly. Did not seem all that big and I never noticed the weight being an issue.
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Wouldnt you just call that the MotoX?

Went to Sprint today to check out the demo. We have two phones that are eligible for upgrade, and I've been looking at the Nexus 6 for months. I figured the size would be fine for me, but I wanted my mom to see the phone and see if she wanted to upgrade to the N6. We both currently have Note 2's, and since I'm the one that always has to troubleshoot when she's got phone issues, I like to try and get the same phones so I know exactly what might be going on when there is an issue. I kind of thought the size would be bigger then the Note 2, but having the phone for two years I guess we're just used to it and the N6 didn't seem bigger at all in the hand for either. Felt like the Note 2, just with more screen space. Seeing the pics and unboxing vids does no justice for the N6. The phone is bad ass in person. As for the weight, I checked out the Note 4 just to compare, it felt much heavier then the N6. Not sure if it's the curved back, but it felt much lighter then all the other phones that size. Both of us walked out and agreed the phone was kick ass and the one to upgrade to. Would have gotten them today, but waiting till Black Friday, just in case there might be some deal at Best Buy. Doubt there will be, but one more week isn't much to wait and see. Plus I can get a couple cases on the way during the wait. And actually, after seeing the phone, the curve on the back didn't seem as curved as I thought it was, so hoping that bumper that Rhino Shield is working on will be all it needs. I questioned the curve and how it could work right, but it looks like the bumper could work without a hard plastic back to it.

Droid Turbo or Nexus 6?

For us that are stuck with Verizon and do not and can not fork out $600, where is the Nexus 6! Are we still getting it, and when! Or should I just give up and get the Droid Turbo?

The only thing which persuaded me to get the Turbo vs the Nexus is the size. I just cant deal with a 6" phone.
I actually prefer the 4.7 - 5.0 range (ie my old Droid DNA was PERFECT size) and Turbo is close enough that it doesnt bother me. But anything larger was just too much.
Of course, if you care more about root than size, Nexus is the way to go.

I'm with rajuabju on this. I would have loved the Nexus 6, but it's just too big; the Droid Turbo is pretty much the max in terms of phone size that I'd want to use.

Very true I agree. I mean the galaxy note 4 is borderline but still big and the nexus 6 is out of this world huge like the iPhone plus. Do they want me to get custom made jeans with pockets 6 inches deep and wide? I mean hecks no! This turbo is by far the best size along with the g3. Best hand form feel. Specs are similar to nexus and turbo but then again 565ppi for under 6 inches is more impressive than the nexus 6 ppi for 6 inch screen

I got the Turbo and love it. The idea of a Nexus phone was enticing, but the Nexus 6 was just too darn big. I'm glad about my decision and love everything about the Turbo. A smartphone is a tool to me, and Motorola did a magnificent job with that. Sure, some other phones are prettier, but I love the post-industrial look of the Turbo. I find it beautiful! I never use a case with my phones. Just think about it...take the iPhone which Apple spends a bundle on industrial design, and most users put an awful looking case on it. To me, a phone that needs a case is a poor design. The Turbo, by the way, includes one free screen replacement if necessary.
On the whole, the battery, while not the 48 hour duration that is claimed, still is simply amazing. The phone is fast and buttery smooth. The screen is great. Also, regarding the camera, It's been taking sharp, very impressive, oh wow photos for me. The "shutter lag" issue is a pseudo problem. No phone is meant for quick burst photos of fast action subjects. But the Camera Zoon FX does have a burst mode that works great with the Turbo.
Unless you want a 6 inch screen, I find the Turbo the phone of the year.

You can get 48h now pretty easily. You just cannot have heavy usage for 48 hours, which was never the intended claim.

rajuabju said:
The only thing which persuaded me to get the Turbo vs the Nexus is the size. I just cant deal with a 6" phone.
I actually prefer the 4.7 - 5.0 range (ie my old Droid DNA was PERFECT size) and Turbo is close enough that it doesnt bother me. But anything larger was just too much.
Of course, if you care more about root than size, Nexus is the way to go.
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My last phone was also the DNA and I loved it. If you compare the size of the DNA with the Turbo they are almost identical with the Turbo only being slightly thicker because of the battery.
I think the N6 would be just too big for me to fit comfortably in my pants and shorts pockets. I also like that I can use my Turbo one handed. The N6 also doesn't come in black.
The only thing I hate about the Turbo (yes, hate) is that the capacitive keys are KK and not LP symbols. I know the phone came out with KK on it, but LP was right around the corner and they look so much better than the KK symbols.

Yeah the turbo is a excellent phone. The decision has to be made based on your need for root and size of the phone.
My DNA already has lollipop. I almost popped my Sim back in the other day.
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You can get 48h now pretty easily. You just cannot have heavy usage for 48 hours, which was never the intended claim.
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100% true.
Its easy to get 48hours or more with only light usage. I did it specifically to test a few times.
But with heavy usage (ie, most people on XDA), its still lasts through a full day and then some, and NO other phone I've ever had would last this long

I'll chime in my $.02 here since I had the turbo and just recently sold it, and bought the N6. First off yes the N6 is huge, and that originally was the sole reason I didn't really want one. There are a few things that drove me to making the switch. I came from the LG G2, and honestly the G2 was and is one of the best devices on the market.. The size of the phone is perfect for me, it's thin, light, small bezel, etc.. I do like having root but I am by no means a ROM junkie like I was back in the OG Droid, then Gnex days.. so the G2 was perfect for me in that sense as well.. My original plan was to get the Droid Turbo, and sell my G2, but on black friday I got such a good deal on the turbo i was able to keep both. While using the Turbo I often found myself not being able to use the phone comfortably with one hand, and then the whole probably not going to get root thing.. So I figured if I am going to have a phone that in all honesty I will need to consistently use two hands to use, well then might as well go big, and get the benefits of a Nexus. I still have my G2 and a nano-->micro sim adapter so I can easily move back and forth between devices when I so desire.
I will say that with all those factors in mind had the turbo gotten root I probably would have kept it, it really is a well made phone, and I had no issues with the camera, and the latest update to add simultaneous voice and data was nice to have (being that the N6 currently doesn't support that on VZW), but I also have no regrets at this point (only 24 hours with the N6 though).
Like I said that's my $.02.

yep like everyone else the nexus 6 is just to big. i had the note 3 for a whole year exactly. i started going to the gym and that thing was not comfortable carrying around for music. dumped it for the m8 couldn't be happier, especially with the sound output, amazing.
and if you really want the nexus 6 i believe it works right out box for verizon. if you order from google or motorola whichever one. theres plenty of video on youtube and droid-life.com and a couple other sites already confirmed this. i hope youre happy with whatever decision you make.
happy holidays everyone!

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yep like everyone else the nexus 6 is just to big. i had the note 3 for a whole year exactly. i started going to the gym and that thing was not comfortable carrying around for music. dumped it for the m8 couldn't be happier, especially with the sound output, amazing.
and if you really want the nexus 6 i believe it works right out box for verizon. if you order from google or motorola whichever one. theres plenty of video on youtube and droid-life.com and a couple other sites already confirmed this. i hope youre happy with whatever decision you make.
happy holidays everyone!
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i can confirm the nexus 6 works right of the box on Verizon. The one I bought was originally purchased at a T-Mobile store. I put my sim in and good to go.. calls, data(LTE/3G) mms, all work without any tinkering.
It's huge plain and simple.. so if you can get past that, then I would say go for the Nexus.. I haven't had very many opportunities to use camera other then basic shots, but so far I am pleased.