OnePlus One vs Nexus 5 - ONE General

I have been really undecided whether to buy the Nexus 5 or the One, but since the One doesn't need anymore an invite to be bought, I think I'll go for the One. But I'm still undecided. Why, you might ask ? The Nexus 5 is well known for its huge support by developers and it will be supported and updated "virtually" forever. But what about the One ? It has got guaranteed support by CM for two years, but what after that ? XDA will keep it alive ? The Nexus 5 certainly (I think) yes, but I'm unsure for the One. That's a big matter for me. I don't want to have an outdated phone in hands after two years, and the One has specs good enough to stay on the medium-high of medium range for some years on the hardware side, but who knows what will happen on the software side ? I'm 90% sure One's hardware will be able to run every new version of Android that will come up.
What do you think about it ?

WhiteWashed said:
I have been really undecided whether to buy the Nexus 5 or the One, but since the One doesn't need anymore an invite to be bought, I think I'll go for the One. But I'm still undecided. Why, you might ask ? The Nexus 5 is well known for its huge support by developers and it will be supported and updated "virtually" forever. But what about the One ? It has got guaranteed support by CM for two years, but what after that ? XDA will keep it alive ? The Nexus 5 certainly (I think) yes, but I'm unsure for the One. That's a big matter for me. I don't want to have an outdated phone in hands after two years, and the One has specs good enough to stay on the medium-high of medium range for some years on the hardware side, but who knows what will happen on the software side ? I'm 90% sure One's hardware will be able to run every new version of Android that will come up.
What do you think about it ?
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for me the nexus will be supported for a long time, like galaxy nexus

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Get the nexus one or wait for the HTC supersonic?

Idk what to do because new phones come out every 2 months that are better and make the previous models obsoletee! Should i get the nexus one or wait for the HTC supersonic? Do you think the nexus one will loose its value over the next 6 months if i decide to sell it?
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Idk what to do because new phones come out every 2 months that are better and make the previous models obsoletee!
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I disagree; better models being released do not make a phone obsolete. Sure it means you're not on the bleeding edge of technology, but your nice new shiny phone will not degenerate into a piece of rusty scrap metal overnight. It will be a long time before these phones are obsolete.
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Should i get the nexus one or wait for the HTC supersonic?
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I can't answer this as a quick Google produces conflicting accounts regarding quality, what stage the phone is up to regarding development, etc.. The specs I've read are also "leaked" (see: subject to change or may not even be true at all).
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Do you think the nexus one will loose its value over the next 6 months if i decide to sell it?
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It wont lose all of its value, obviously, but it certainly can go down just a tiny bit in price. I'd say get a Nexus One and sell it when you're ready; just make sure you take care of it, keep all original boxes and manuals, all plastic wrappers and casings, etc so you can get the maximum amount of money possible for it.
sasha101 said:
Idk what to do because new phones come out every 2 months that are better and make the previous models obsoletee! Should i get the nexus one or wait for the HTC supersonic? Do you think the nexus one will loose its value over the next 6 months if i decide to sell it?
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no offense to you, sasha...
but do these types of posts ever cease here?
heheh...seriously...if your opinion is that a new, bigger, better phone will be out in 2 months, then perpetually wait for that phone! based on that statement, you'll never feel comfortable buying a new phone.
do yourself a favor...buy a nexus one, enjoy it, and when you're tired of it, buy a new one.
A phone backed exclusively by GOOGLE is not going to loose any value.
Any other phone is just that a new phone. But a phone sponsored by a company I.E apple (iphone) Palm (pre) Google (nexus One) etc. Fall into a different category.
At the end of the day people look at google and know their phone is the nexus one so that adds value to the device.
Plus i prefer to be backed by google all the way. This means that the moment a new release is out in the AOSP rep the google backed phone will have first dibs on it so youll always be up to date.
Perfect example is look at the htc devices and motorola. 2.1 Been out for q month now and the only phone with it officially is the nexus one.
The other devices are not making the leap to 2.1 till probably next month or april. T oeach its own but there is a difference between a FLAGSHIP company phone and just a Released updated phone.
please excuse my being ignorant... besides wimax, will supersonic support WCDMA&GSM I am totally an idiot about WiMax technology...
The bigger issue in my mind would be who in the modding community is going to support it.
sasha101 said:
Idk what to do because new phones come out every 2 months that are better and make the previous models obsoletee! Should i get the nexus one or wait for the HTC supersonic? Do you think the nexus one will loose its value over the next 6 months if i decide to sell it?
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The absolute BEST way to play this game is to buy the first phone that comes out on the market using the next best processor.
The N1 currently has the only Snapdragon processor on the market.
It will be 9-12 months before the next 3.7 inch (or larger) Android phone with the next best processor is released.
Nuff said.
I bought the Nexus One, because I like having the lastest coolest stuff available to me, ie Android 2.1. I don't think we'll be sitting around 6 months after Android 3.0 (or whatever release) waiting for Google to push us an update. After owning an iPhone since day one I realized hardware isn't everything (This applies to other devices & hardware as well) I think we'll have the latest features with the N1 for a very long time, if we don't it'll be hacked in under 30 days, ie Desire ROM.
I will say this about the N1, when I first received it I thought I made a mistake coming from the iPhone but after a month with the phone there is no way I could go back to that glorified VTech toy. Every issue or complaint I had about the phone has been addressed by either Google, Cyanogen or a third party developer. (Other than my palms continually touching the screen but a case fixed that)
But seriously, you're looking at phones like they are software. Always something new around the corner. Outside of IT stuff, my other passion is cars. When considering a phone, look at it like you would a car. There is always going to be something out there faster, nicer and more fuel efficient but that doesn't mean your current car isn't fast, fun to drive or even a "clunker" And don't take me the wrong way I'm not talking down or preaching I had a hard time getting over the idea of not having the "best phone" for at least the next year coming from the iPhone that had zero competition (IMO) for two years. I waited for the Nexus One because it can out do pretty much anything the iPhone can do but that doesn't make my old iPhone any less of a great phone (despite what I'm sure others in this forum have to say about it). But also like a car, do your research and be very sure of your decision because you're going to be stuck with it for a very long time (Owning a phone for 2 years is like owning a car for 5 or 6 years)
Hope that helps you make a decision!
i bought the Nexus One. more then likely i'll strongly consider buying the SuperSonic.
tis' the life of a phone geek. good thing you get back some of your money reselling i guess.
Get the Nexus & try it! Maybe you'll like it so much that you won't want to get rid of it so soon But if do, then just trade up
sasha101 said:
Idk what to do because new phones come out every 2 months that are better and make the previous models obsoletee! Should i get the nexus one or wait for the HTC supersonic? Do you think the nexus one will loose its value over the next 6 months if i decide to sell it?
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Depends on your situation. Supersonic means you have to be with Sprint, N1 means T-Mobile or ATT(w/o 3g). If you have prefer one over the other, choose your phone accordingly. Otherwise, getting N1 now isn't a bad idea if you want to be on the cutting edge.
Now, the downside of being on the cutting edge is that things don't always work smoothly. N1 even with the latest (beta?) radio rom still give me lots of dropped calls, touchscreen randomly borked, etc.. Not that I wasn't prepared for this, but it kinda surprised me to see these problem from Google. Maybe they should have just released it as BETA(tm).
I have a feeling that there are bugs to be weeded out with N1. While Google is 100% behind the handset, remember that this is actually their first handset. So don't expect smooth experience with N1.
As for losing value, I never really thought of that since I save all my old cellphones.
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Now, the downside of being on the cutting edge is that things don't always work smoothly. N1 even with the latest (beta?) radio rom still give me lots of dropped calls, touchscreen randomly borked, etc.. Not that I wasn't prepared for this, but it kinda surprised me to see these problem from Google. Maybe they should have just released it as BETA(tm).
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That's a Bummer! I have none of the issues you mention, and it's been super from day one!!
I believe that the Nexus One will have a much bigger hacker community than Supersonic.
If you can still wait until the Supersonic is out, you might as well wait for that time and see *all* your options in the market. Who knows? Maybe, Nexus One (or HTC Desire) will be cheaper by the time Supersonic is out or there's another great phone with nice specs and a huge dev community.
If you really can wait for so long, you might also want to consider waiting for Nexus Two.
If you can't wait for so long, buy the Nexus One now. Beside the hardware; the support from Google, HTC (especially because of the Desire ROM ports), and a huge community make Nexus One a winner.
The Nexus One seems to be the G1 when in comes to the developing community, and its popularity/all the Android newcomers. The G1 seems to get the most development of all the Android devices (judging from this place, always seem to be something going on over there with the G1). Despite it's design, and processor.. people do seem to love the G1, it even still seems to be going strong after its 2008 release too.
I assume the N1 will be the same ~.~ loved, and loved for long.
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The Nexus One seems to be the G1 when in comes to the developing community, and its popularity/all the Android newcomers. The G1 seems to get the most development of all the Android devices (judging from this place, always seem to be something going on over there with the G1). Despite it's design, and processor.. people do seem to love the G1, it even still seems to be going strong after its 2008 release too.
I assume the N1 will be the same ~.~ loved, and loved for long.
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Agreed. I used to get the newest and best of everything, now I stick to the ones with the best community - problems get fixed and new things get ported. The less widespread, but "newer" stuff usually has very little support.
Eclair~ said:
The Nexus One seems to be the G1 when in comes to the developing community, and its popularity/all the Android newcomers. The G1 seems to get the most development of all the Android devices (judging from this place, always seem to be something going on over there with the G1). Despite it's design, and processor.. people do seem to love the G1, it even still seems to be going strong after its 2008 release too.
I assume the N1 will be the same ~.~ loved, and loved for long.
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Agreed. It can't be pointed out enough that this is not only "Google Phone 1", but "Android Dev Phone 3." Every Android 2.1+ app will be proofed and bug tested on a N1.
xdaIf it's an HTC android device...why wouldn't it be a prominent device in the xda community ?
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The N1 currently has the only Snapdragon processor on the market.
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Actually the HTC HD2 has the snapdragon too and technically hit the market before the Nexus One.
Your theory is sound though. Buy a phone with the next step in technology and it will age slower. As everyone has said, phones are probably the fastest moving field of technology so there is always a better model just a couple of months away. Get something like a Nexus One that has good support from it's manufacturer, good support in the community, is still very new and will have good resale value and thats your best bet.
If 4G is important for you, wait for the supersonic. Otherwise, get N1 and enjoy it until the new HTC Olympian. I read this will be the android version of HD2!
how about wait for the HTC Hypersonic, I hear it allows you to travel in time ;-)

Why Is This Device Has Low Developing Activity

I've been watching this space for last few days, especially to know how much active development this device would get. There is no doubt that this is one of the best device you can buy right now in the Android market. But it still has less active development than a high end device would see after a month of its release. And being a cousin to Nexus 5, I thought this device will see the added advantage of much more development but what ever is happening is absolutely opposite to it. The development activity is so less, compared to what previous flagships HTC One, S4 had after one month of their respective release, there isn't a need to create separate forums for each major (carrier) version of the device.
Is it because locked bootloaders? or something else?.
blame it on Samsung S series and Note...Plus LG isnt known yet for the average consumer
I've also seen a number of people say that they like what LG has done with the stock ROM on this one (and I agree). I used CM for a year and a half or so on my GNex, and the couple of times I've tried getting used to it on my G2, I've always gone back to stock within a day or two.
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blame it on Samsung S series and Note...Plus LG isnt known yet for the average consumer
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Yes, I agree that LG G2 is not as quite as popular as it should beconfused but an average user doesn't hang out in XDA looking for different roms. Even Sony's one or two years old phones are getting KitKat where as this phone has not even having more ROMS to choose from. This is supposed to be the flagship & highest speced device along with Galaxy Note 3. And as I said, being a distant cousin device of Nexus 5, I thought many ROMs from different beloved developers will be available for this device but it is not the case. Many people like me choose Android platform over other(Windows Phone 8 & IOS) because of the availability of different ROMs to choose from. But seeing that is not the case, even those people back off from buying this device.
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I've also seen a number of people say that they like what LG has done with the stock ROM on this one (and I agree). I used CM for a year and a half or so on my GNex, and the couple of times I've tried getting used to it on my G2, I've always gone back to stock within a day or two.
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Its not only AOSP ROMs but also stock based ROMs too
Patience guys, the ROM's are coming.
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If you want more development then learn to develop and provide your work to the masses. Seems to me there are a few good devs working on this phone. Keep in mind there are several variants which complicates things. I believe that the Nexus 5 will help get more ports for this device but I don't feel entitled to ask for anything or complain about slow development.
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If you want more development then learn to develop and provide your work to the masses. Seems to me there are a few good devs working on this phone. Keep in mind there are several variants which complicates things. I believe that the Nexus 5 will help get more ports for this device but I don't feel entitled to ask for anything or complain about slow development.
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With due respect, before giving those heroic comments & suggestions, you should have understand what I'm trying to do with this thread, which is to get to know the reasons for not seeing as much development as we usually see with flagship phones(I don't know where you get the notion that I was complaining). I never tried or try to complain or demand anything, heck who the hell I'm to even think of those lines. I clearly was asking for the reasons in the OP(than complaining about any thing) that is it because of locked bootloaders or some other reasons. And every flagship has different variants, its not this phone alone.
But one thing I'm sure about is, any one who visits or comes frequently to this wonderful forum, he/she buys the device which is supported by our beloved developers, they don't care about the manufacturers supporting them in software update.
The "why no development for this device" threads are getting tiresome no matter how an OP tries to disguise it.
If you want a device with a lot a ROM's, I suggest you get a Nexus or a Galaxy S phone and not an LG, Plain and simple.
A lot of xda users know that LG suck at providing updates to the latest version of Android. Samsung and HTC used to be the same way but they have really improved. Besides when it comes to GSM devs, I think most preferred going with the cheaper option the Nexus 5 offers. Also, quite a few people don't really like the rear button placement. Most of us have gotten used to it but try convincing someone who has yet to try the device.
LG is in Samsung's shadow
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I've also seen a number of people say that they like what LG has done with the stock ROM on this one (and I agree). I used CM for a year and a half or so on my GNex, and the couple of times I've tried getting used to it on my G2, I've always gone back to stock within a day or two.
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I think this is one of the reasons. Prior to getting the G2, I used phones that were as close to vanilla as possible, and modded my phone to be that. I am actually very pleased with how LG built their UI and I appreciate tge customization that is built in. I have never seen so many people on here so happy with the UI that they weren't in a rush to ROM their phones. Hell, the only reason I even rooted and added TWRP was to use certain apps.
The second reason I don't think it's not getting the support you're looking for is tge cost and how close to tge Nexus 5 it was released. If I was a developer, it would be hard to justify spending $600 outright for a phone when the Nexus was right around the corner with similar hardware for $350. The only thing that might motivate me to purchase the G2 would be the fact that I'm on Verizon and we won't be getting a Nexus.
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I think this is one of the reasons. Prior to getting the G2, I used phones that were as close to vanilla as possible, and modded my phone to be that. I am actually very pleased with how LG built their UI and I appreciate tge customization that is built in. I have never seen so many people on here so happy with the UI that they weren't in a rush to ROM their phones. Hell, the only reason I even rooted and added TWRP was to use certain apps.
The second reason I don't think it's not getting the support you're looking for is tge cost and how close to tge Nexus 5 it was released. If I was a developer, it would be hard to justify spending $600 outright for a phone when the Nexus was right around the corner with similar hardware for $350. The only thing that might motivate me to purchase the G2 would be the fact that I'm on Verizon and we won't be getting a Nexus.
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I was lucky enough to get a nexus 5 very early after the launch...i played around with it the day i got then packed it up and sent it back the next day..bought a G2 the next day and am glad i did
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low devolpment?you haw minimum 10 stock costum rom and 8 aosp rom in all carriers.low dev?
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muhamet said:
low devolpment?you haw minimum 10 stock costum rom and 8 aosp rom in all carriers.low dev?
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Def low development for D803.
sent from my S4, Note 3 or G2
Theres a bounty in general to get all variants official AOKP. You want more development then donate.
force70 said:
Def low development for D803.
sent from my S4, Note 3 or G2
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force70 said:
Def low development for D803.
sent from my S4, Note 3 or G2
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Low development? There's no development.
Is pretty simple... Most devs knows that LG is not dev friendly and most devs has gone through this with LG before.
This particular lg is very dev friendly
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Should i buy oneplus one ?

Hello,
i have a Samsung S3 right now with CM11 nightly. It is pretty good and stable. Drivers are not perfect. Expecially camera drivers.
I would like to buy a new device. I have waited for N6 and unfortunally it is too big, too thick e too expensive. So I am thinking to buy a Oneplus One.
I have read around about touchscreen issue. It is fixed ? Drivers in Cyanogen are stable ?
I want a stable phone for daily use. It is ok to test new rom o new kernel sometimes, but i need a stable phone to work with.
What you think ? Should i buy one ?
Thank you !
I have the OPO and its been over 2 month i'm using it!The phone is great and so are the drivers!No touchscreen issues for me!I use multi rom to test new rooms!I think you should go with the oneplus!
alfredolo said:
Hello,
i have a Samsung S3 right now with CM11 nightly. It is pretty good and stable. Drivers are not perfect. Expecially camera drivers.
I would like to buy a new device. I have waited for N6 and unfortunally it is too big, too thick e too expensive. So I am thinking to buy a Oneplus One.
I have read around about touchscreen issue. It is fixed ? Drivers in Cyanogen are stable ?
I want a stable phone for daily use. It is ok to test new rom o new kernel sometimes, but i need a stable phone to work with.
What you think ? Should i buy one ?
Thank you !
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I think before making a new thread for a question thats been asked a million times before and an answer that only you can answer you should search for what others have said. Here are only a few I found real quick that can help you out. Lets be honest as well you are asking about rooting your phone and will it be stable. You can read up on any rom you like and find out if its stable but honestly there all based off of cm which is quite stable at this moment. If you are worried stay stock.
First link stock rooted where I would go to ask or rather read up to see just how stable the stock rom is... At least its a starting point. My bad if you think I am being an ass but your question is slightly subjective and all your answers are out there for you. Again my bad
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/development/rom-stock-rooted-4-4-4-xnph38r-t2898098
http://www.androidcentral.com/oneplus-one-updated-today-fix-touchscreen-issues
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/problem-touchscreen-sensibility-issue.60373/
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/why-you-should-buy-one-plus-one-and-not-other-phone.96351/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2685348
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/to-t2905794
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/which-phone-should-i-buy.153613/
OnePlus One fits a niche crowd, people who like to tinker with their devices and want a true powerhouse to take advantage of. There is also a subset of users that would want a pure-ish Android experience with a customizable interface minus the fluff that comes with a skinned interface like TouchWiz or Sense.
As it stands, I like CyanogenMod without any further tweaks. The phone runs well and doesn't give me many issues to worry about. (Note: no phone is perfect)
If you need mhl, hell no. Otherwise it's the best phone out right now...
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If you haven't got a phone yet. Then just wait and see how the nexus 6 going to be, then make a decision
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If you haven't got a phone yet. Then just wait and see how the nexus 6 going to be, then make a decision
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Yes though it depends on budget as well I guess. Dollar for dollar I think the OnePlus is still a better buy, however if it's within budget the nexus 6 is clearly the better phone overall.
Mmm bacon
Thnk you all for reply.
I have readed a lot about OPO. I dont like N6, it is big, fat, heavy and expencive. I prefere a 5.5 inc display.
The main problem about OPO are the yellow band and touchscreen issue, that are not resolved with 38R.
I will wait till that problems will be resolved, later i will buy one.
Thank you all !
Its definitely the best smartphone for its price range right now. I have been using it over two month now and i did not have any issue.
Before i bought it, i too was worried about the yellow band problem. But until now I never get the yellow band or touch screen problem.
OnePlus One is perfectly fine and great performance. After i got this phone i immediately try antutu benchmark and suprised that it got the first ranking. That is something to brag to your friends.
As for the rom, CM11S is really stable for daily use and i did not have any problems with it. Great multitasking, smooth gaming, nice camera performance, great speaker quality and great battery life. Plus i heard that they are working to release Android L update for OPO. Cant wait for that. Even if you still want custom rom, most of them that i tried are stable for daily use.
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Yes though it depends on budget as well I guess. Dollar for dollar I think the OnePlus is still a better buy, however if it's within budget the nexus 6 is clearly the better phone overall.
Mmm bacon
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It also depend on how long you're going to keep this phone also. I get at lease 2 phones a year. I have the oneplus one and it always seem like I go back to the Note 3.... But the nexus 6 will be a phone you can keep for another year
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Thnk you all for reply.
I have readed a lot about OPO. I dont like N6, it is big, fat, heavy and expencive. I prefere a 5.5 inc display.
The main problem about OPO are the yellow band and touchscreen issue, that are not resolved with 38R.
I will wait till that problems will be resolved, later i will buy one.
Thank you all !
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Ok if you have read then you also know that not everyone has these issues and the touchscreen issue was software related and those on 38r saying they still have an issue could be user error or faulty devices. Now lets be honest 1+ has sold quite a few devices and I know of at least half a dozen people with them. With that being said I am the only one with yellow banding and its barely noticeable and since the update no one has the touchscreen issue.
Why do so many allow the voices of the few decide for them. At the end of the day it is your decision and if you have done your research then YOU are making the best choice for you....
I've had the s3 and was running cm11 with oneplus mods on it and I can say it doesn't compare.
This phone is ridiculous, it amazingly fast and I have had no problems.
I ordered mine on Saturday and it came yesterday so I've only had a day with it so far but I'm so impressed, would recommend to anyone.
I had a G3, Note3, Z2 and this OPO It's the most incredible smartphone. And the feature that we can unlock bootloader and not lose the warranty is the best!
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I had a G3, Note3, Z2 and this OPO It's the most incredible smartphone. And the feature that we can unlock bootloader and not lose the warranty is the best!
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The G3 was the 16Gb (2GB ram) or 32GB (3GB ram) version?
I'm thinking of buying the oneplus 64GB or the G3 32GB, but i really can't choose which one...
Ive got the 64gb sandstone black, had it for 3 weeks now, worth every penny. At this point the company is well situated and running at full speed, buy with confidence and you will not be disappointed.
You should buy and have a try yourself. For me, this phone is better than expected.
Phone is amazing, period. Get it if you can
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For sure. I've been pleased with the phone. The size is nice for me even with my small hands, the battery stands on its own, its plenty fast, many ROMs and kernels to enjoy and for the price what more can you ask for.
This phone should of been the new Nexus 6. Tons of development here
SlimKat or SlimPop
As someone who was in love with my previous phone, nexus 5. The OnePlus is the best phone at market price-wise. If it was priced in the same range as N5 or N6, I would definitely chose a N phone. Software-wise it is kinda buggy (both cm11 and cm11s) and hardware-wise (touchscreen and yellow screen)
I would wait until n6, and then make a choice, because the n6 isn't that much bigger then the OnePlusOne, but damn expensive.
I think I will sell my OnePlusOne when the n6 hit the market, cause I really miss the wireless charging.
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Was expecting more from the nexus experience (first impression)

Mind you, I have only had this phone for a day, but all I've done is played around with the software until now, somehow I was expecting more.
I've never owned a Nexus device and the last phone I had was a m8, granted it's a lot older now but I modded it from the beginning and I get the feeling there was more content on the HTC side.
Not saying there is little going on here, but I was expecting more.
So what's the deal about "if you like modding software this is for you" every reviewer says out there?
I haven't done any research on Nexus devices prior to getting the phone because my HTC gave up on me.
So far I'm very impressed by the phone though.
Edit: when I say I modded I'm just talking about editing files or installing zips
For starters, there's the hassle of unlocking the M8's bootloader. Second, with other OEM devices such as Samsung, HTC, and LG, devs usually have to start from scratch unless there are already some sources.
When it comes to Nexus.... it's AOSP + Google's Nexus apps. That's it. Then there's the sources easily available.
I'm sure someone else can explain it way better than that, but when my girl bought an HTC M8 two years ago, it took at least an hour to get a custom ROM installed onto it. My 5X (or even my Nexus 5 at that time) had CyanogenMod flashed in 15 minutes.
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For starters, there's the hassle of unlocking the M8's bootloader. Second, with other OEM devices such as Samsung, HTC, and LG, devs usually have to start from scratch unless there are already some sources.
When it comes to Nexus.... it's AOSP + Google's Nexus apps. That's it. Then there's the sources easily available.
I'm sure someone else can explain it way better than that, but when my girl bought an HTC M8 two years ago, it took at least an hour to get a custom ROM installed onto it. My 5X (or even my Nexus 5 at that time) had CyanogenMod flashed in 15 minutes.
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Have you noticed the low sound volume in CM13 for N5X, I wait t change until fixed.
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Have you noticed the low sound volume in CM13 for N5X, I wait t change until fixed.
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I really dont think the sound volume is that big of a deal. However you can edit the mixer paths file to bring the sound volume back up, if it is to you.
Either way razorloves has isolated the change thay reduced the volume level so hopefully a fix will come quickly now that they have identifed exactly what caused the problem.
As to the OP, Give it some time. Probably as you learn about modding and see how much support is in the Nexus community you well will understand more.
The Nexus experience isn't exactly a specific experience due to the unique nature of the phone, but rather the ease with which customization and modification is achieved. Nexus devices are also very forgiving in terms of mistakes you may make when modding - for example there's been at least a handful of people even on just this device that have bricked their phones but been able to successfully fix them. On most other devices, bricking would have meant game over.
Additionally, if you bought the phone from Google, part of the Nexus experience is the great warranty support policies Google has, both for manufacturing defects and issues you may have caused yourself (for example, I believe they will replace your phone once if you break the screen)
Buy a 6P, maybe you miss the boomsound
Was expecting more from the nexus experience (first impression) Title of the OP
"Mind you, I have only had this phone for a day,"
Ok and this is your post? One day?
"....a m8, granted it's a lot older now but I modded it from the beginning and I get the feeling there was more content on the HTC side."
More content on the HTC side? What are you saying?
"I haven't done any research on Nexus devices prior to getting the phone because my HTC gave up on me."
Ok so who's problem is that? What did you expect with all the research you have done? Oh nvm, I see.
"So far I'm very impressed by the phone though."
Wait a sec.. you OPd and said you were expecting more. And now you're impressed? Why did you create this thread?
"Edit: when I say I modded I'm just talking about editing files or installing zips "
Do you even know what you're saying?
How about you close this thread and stop this silliness? That would be the best post at this time.
Huh? Your post history suggests you're at least active in some rom sections for the m8 and you're asking about modding on the 5x, a FREAKING NEXUS PHONE?
You wanna do a nokia phone mod with blinking keypads lights and techno beats?
OP, you've clearly missed the point of the whole Nexus experience in general. Nexus devices are for those who want the latest updates to Android, clean software, and stability. Unlike other manufacturers that load their devices with a whole bunch of sh!t apps and/or features no one uses. I'm not saying people DON'T use those features, but Nexus devices are for people who want a stable phone, or an easy to mod/root if they so choose.
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On try paranoid Android Rom. Smoothest I've tried.
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Was expecting more from the nexus experience (first impression) Title of the OP
"Mind you, I have only had this phone for a day,"
Ok and this is your post? One day?
"....a m8, granted it's a lot older now but I modded it from the beginning and I get the feeling there was more content on the HTC side."
More content on the HTC side? What are you saying?
"I haven't done any research on Nexus devices prior to getting the phone because my HTC gave up on me."
Ok so who's problem is that? What did you expect with all the research you have done? Oh nvm, I see.
"So far I'm very impressed by the phone though."
Wait a sec.. you OPd and said you were expecting more. And now you're impressed? Why did you create this thread?
"Edit: when I say I modded I'm just talking about editing files or installing zips "
Do you even know what you're saying?
How about you close this thread and stop this silliness? That would be the best post at this time.
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Huh? Your post history suggests you're at least active in some rom sections for the m8 and you're asking about modding on the 5x, a FREAKING NEXUS PHONE?
You wanna do a nokia phone mod with blinking keypads lights and techno beats?
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OP, you've clearly missed the point of the whole Nexus experience in general. Nexus devices are for those who want the latest updates to Android, clean software, and stability. Unlike other manufacturers that load their devices with a whole bunch of sh!t apps and/or features no one uses. I'm not saying people DON'T use those features, but Nexus devices are for people who want a stable phone, or an easy to mod/root if they so choose.
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Hey, no need to feel insulted guys.
First of all this was my first impression like the title states, what's wrong with that?
I bought this phone in a hurry, I was asking because I had heard people (mostly youtubers and the like) recommending this phone for "modders/flashers" around the Web, not just the nexus 5x in particular, but nexus devices in general.
This gave me the assumption that the modding/development community would be even more active than on other devices.
Coming from the m8, which had/has a big selection of mods, roms and tips & tricks etc, I was expecting a lot more to be found here on the forums (I was not comparing the devices directly).
And yes I'm impressed by LGs 5x, I was not expecting to get so much at this low price point (I paid under 300€), regardless of software (which is awesome btw, I haven't used stock Android before).
I hope this clears things up for you
I guess many of the things that make nexus devices "better" in this regard are out of my skill set.
Shebee said:
Hey, no need to feel insulted guys.
First of all this was my first impression like the title states, what's wrong with that?
I bought this phone in a hurry, I was asking because I had heard people (mostly youtubers and the like) recommending this phone for "modders/flashers" around the Web, not just the nexus 5x in particular, but nexus devices in general.
This gave me the assumption that the modding/development community would be even more active than on other devices.
Coming from the m8, which had/has a big selection of mods, roms and tips & tricks etc, I was expecting a lot more to be found here on the forums (I was not comparing the devices directly).
And yes I'm impressed by LGs 5x, I was not expecting to get so much at this low price point (I paid under 300€), regardless of software (which is awesome btw, I haven't used stock Android before).
I hope this clears things up for you
I guess many of the things that make nexus devices "better" in this regard are out of my skill set.
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OEM device forums usually have more mods because people try and make the stock OEM rom more like the stock Nexus rom. Those mods are obviously not needed. There aren't really any stock Nexus based roms either since AOSP roms are stable and for the most part bugless. The rom threads are not as big either since there are far less bugs to report. OEM device forums are filled with ways to make their phone the way ours comes out of the box.
What you are observing is more meat and less fat.
Its a good phone for the recent prices, with the nexus branding it becomes better for longetivity.
If you did further research then you would have realize the bigger community is over at the 6p section. 5x is good but not flagship level good especially when you feel the lack of ram

[DISCUSSION] Google Pixel/XL from a Developer Point of View

Hi developers,
I wonder how to handle the new Pixel phones from a developer point of view.
The last couple of years, I always used at least one nexus device (starting with a Nexus S) with the latest Android version as a development device. I often used it as a kind of benchmark/ base line, like "if it is working on the stock nexus device, and not on your device with the same android version, your manufacturer firmware or custom rom has a bug". Sure this does not mean I would not test with the most popular devices/ roms or implement some extra workarounds for these devices, but with so many different devices and roms the nexus device with "stock/pure android" was always my reference how it should work.
I don´t care about the price, tech spec or the look of the Pixel device, but I wonder how to handle "pixel exclusive" features ...and also the pixel exclusive bugs.
From my point of view, Pixel devices will not be the "stock/pure Android" reference, like the nexus device. Ok, nexus devices also did not cover all stock android features (like the IR api or even the SD card feature) but, at least, they did not contain any extra non stock features .....
So to make it short: How would you, with the alleged end of the nexus devices in mind, handle the Pixel devices from your developer point of view ?
I'm mainly considering getting this because I'm hoping development for it will be well supported. Surely this will be the baseline android with a few extra apps?
I'm a bit pessimistic about the developer support this phone will end up receiving, in comparison with past Nexus devices. The reason for this is that top developers can't usually go buy every phone that comes out, in order to develop for them. So they often rely on donations for others to chip in to greatly offset the cost of purchasing the phones for development.
In this case, the price is much greater than it was with the Nexus phones so it will likely require greater donations to get the Pixel and Pixel XL into the hands of our favorite developers. This may be a limiting factor with how much development this phone actually sees. Of course, I hope I'm wrong. Hopefully some of the top developers will love the phone enough to jump on one or that they can get enough donations to pick one up.
Either way, time will tell.
I did think that. I'm still not sure what to do, pre order or wait and see. I've been looking at the oneplus3 but as I'm on a OnePlus 2 the support isn't huge for the development side of things compared to the old nexus devices which is what I always had
yep, I think I will have to wait and see ... if the Pixel becomes a top seller AND is the next best thing to a "pure android" device, I will surely use it as my new android development device .... otherwise I don´t know
The lack of traffic on XDA has me concerned. The xl has a lot more
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The lack of traffic on XDA has me concerned. The xl has a lot more
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I think the reason for that is most of the Android junkies (like us) tend to flock to the bigger devices since they spend so much time on them. Lately, I've found myself in the minority when I say that I sold my Nexus 6P simply because it was too big. I even find the OnePlus 3 to be slightly too big for me. And since the Pixel XL is just a smidge bigger than the OnePlus 3, I just can't go that route. But most others are going to go for the bigger device, I think.
The good news is that since the Pixel and Pixel XL are identical aside from the size, development for one should port to the regular Pixel (and vice versa) with relative ease.
I figured the best size phone I've had is the nexus 5, one of the better looking as well. Kinda bored of the big screen phones now. Getting fed up of stretching my thumb and nearly dropping it because of it.
Hardware wise it should be a decent phone. Stuff like water resistance doesn't bother me, I have a girlfriend so don't need shower videos
The one thing that had bugged me mid than anything is they've announced it but not released it. Not even test units to have some reviews prior to release
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I figured the best size phone I've had is the nexus 5, one of the better looking as well. Kinda bored of the big screen phones now. Getting fed up of stretching my thumb and nearly dropping it because of it.
Hardware wise it should be a decent phone. Stuff like water resistance doesn't bother me, I have a girlfriend so don't need shower videos
The one thing that had bugged me mid than anything is they've announced it but not released it. Not even test units to have some reviews prior to release
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Lol, shower videos.
That is all.
Buy an unlockable model and it should be no different than any other model.
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