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Hello All:
This is my first post here but just reading around has solved many problems for me already. However, my phone (sprint mogul 8600) has been misbehaving and even a hard reset did not solve this problem.
My problem is that the stupid thing won't stay asleep, ruining my battery life and sanity. Is there a way to set it so that it will only wake on active decisions (incoming text, incoming call) and me pushing the power button? I've cruised option after option but I haven't been able to find anything useful.
It still functions properly when it should wake up, it just seems to wake up every few minutes on my desk and i think i have an incoming something to deal with. In the end I have just stopped paying attention and have missed lots of calls because of it.
My apologies if there is a faq that goes over this already, I looked but could not find.
Thanks in advance
Battery life goes down approximately 50% per 10 hrs because the phone turns on as if someone hit the power button at irregular intervals. Is the phone SUPPOSED to be able to turn on for reasons other than incoming messages or using the power button? Its driving me crazy, I can't even go out for a day because it will run out of battery.
Are you running a custom rom or stock rom? If stock, is the most up to date from your carrier? After you did the hard reset, did you test it before installing any cab files? It's possible one of the apps you are installing may cause this.
If it's the stock rom and you are installing nothing, I would say it's a defective phone.
I know on an old PDA I had years back at midnight every night it would turn on, it would do maintenance on my scheduler and then turn back off, but haven't seen my phone ever do this during normal hours.
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It has to be software on that rom or additional installed by you. If you haven't installed any software you might want to try flashing a custom rom and see if that takes care of it.
i have had the same problems with my ppc6800 and blackjack 2, i think it has to do with the changing networks... on my drive home from mass to maine it will do it in about 5 spots anyways consistantly. in my hotel in mass i get crappy reception and itll do it every now and then. this has been an issue with both phones. bugs the hell outta me on my trip home cus itll light up, then i grab it to figure out why and theres nothing... learned to live with it
I performed a hard reset after continued trouble with this. It will come on at least 1 time per hour, and as often as every 5 minutes, with absolutely nothing done to it short of initial calibration/data entry. It will also do this sitting on my desk, not moving or anything.
I suppose I could try a custom rom, but I fear I am opening pandora's box, as I am told these phones are on backorder if i happen to brick mine. Any recommendations for a new ROM to try?
This is normal.
Is this sufficient problem to get it replaced? A hard reset and nothing else and problem persists.
It's a win mobile "feature" since the early WinCE days. Every Palm-size/WinCE/WinMO device I've owned turned itself on from time to time. Now, it's blamed on network changes, mostly going in and out of EVDO coverage. When these were simple PDA's, it was blamed on internal housekeeping. If you corner a MS rep on the issue, they will blame the hardware and outside software vendors. I never believed them. Either get used to it or buy a device other than a WinMo based, it will never ever be fixed!
BTW, I'm in my basement where I get less than an ideal signal and my Mogul has turned on and off 3 times while I was typing this.
I have my phone sitting next to me in the cradle all night long, 2-3 hours before I go to bed I turn out the lights to either view my laptop easier or watch TV, if my phone was turning on I would know it because I would have bright light in my eyes.
So I would say it's not as common as you described in the 2-3 times while composing the email. Mine might turn on at midnight, tho I am usually asleep by then, so I can't say for sure, but the only time it turns on (that I know of) is when I receive a text message or a phone call. Emails don't wake up my phone. And I get 20-30 emails a day.
I am on a 1X only network, no EVDO here yet, so it could be an issue with EVDO, in my phone settings I have an option for Service Tone, that makes a beeping sound when I lose or regain service, might try turning that on and see if it's beeping when the phone is turning on. If so, it's a signal issue.
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I have this problem too and hate it. Every time I come out of the subway the phone turns on in my pocket. I cant drive at night with the phone facing up on the dash because it turns on every couple of mins. It's completely annoying, kills the battery and launches tons of programs, every once in a while it makes calls too. I would be very happy to get this "feature" taken off my phone!
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WinMo devices turning on all by themselves is the reason there are so many screen lock programs available. If you've got a WM device and plan to carry it in a confined pocket (like your pants) check out S2U2 or throttlelock. Your phone turns on when leaving the subway because it's aquiring a signal, it probably turned on while in the train while searching for signal too. While driving, you're probably passing in and out of 3G coverage which will also turn the device on. If you stay in a solid signal area, the phone will stay off for the most part, but that does negate the whole mobile thing a bit. The center of my basement where my home theater is gets a inconsistant 3G signal. My Mogul will turn on and off and kill the battery in a few hours. My wifes Palm, my friends BB's and iphones won't turn on once. Once again, the issue of WM/PocketPC/WinCE turning on for no apparent reason has been a c ommon complaint for years, at least to the Casio E105 days when I started on my WM journey. Since MS has never addressed the issue, I doubt they ever will.
I have never had the phone random come on from sleep. Leaving and entering coverage doesn't change that. I say you have something in the rom causing the problem or a program running in the background
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I have never had the phone random come on from sleep. Leaving and entering coverage doesn't change that. I say you have something in the rom causing the problem or a program running in the background
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You've never taken the phone out of a pocket or holster to find it already on? My 6700 on VZW did and I think I ran every ROM developed for it at one time or another, each of my 3 Moguls running various OEM and custom ROM's did/does. I've heard similar complaints from coworkers running various
WM devices. A friend I take the train with daily complained about this with his AT&T Tilt too. Both my non phone Axims (x5 & x51) occasionally turned on as did my Toshiba E805, Casio e100, e105 and e115. Every WinCE based device forum I have participated in over the years has featured complaints about WM turning on with no user interaction. Obviously, it's not a deal breaker for me, but it does happen...a lot. The issue in my basement is the extreme of the problem, move the phone towards the exterior walls and the phone reverts to only turning on and quickly off occasionally. Another example. When traveling by LIRR to Penn Station the phone will stay off even when entering the river tunnel ad traveling under Manhattan. At some point when I exit the station, the phone turns itself on. Since I'm walking in rush hour crowds, I've never tried to find at which exact point my Mogul turns on, but it's always on when I get my coffee in Borders Cafe.
I have never taken it out of my pocket and have it been turned on. It is always in sleep mode.
This also happens to me, i own a mogul, and this is really and extremely annoying.
i have test it for few months and this is my conclusion.
As you guys said already just wait for few min and it will turn on the screen, but also when i shake it and when you hit it.
it really is a battery killer.
lepapirriky said:
This also happens to me, i own a mogul, and this is really and extremely annoying.
i have test it for few months and this is my conclusion.
As you guys said already just wait for few min and it will turn on the screen, but also when i shake it and when you hit it.
it really is a battery killer.
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If it's turning on when you shake it, you probably have a hardware issue.
Hi everyone I preordered on the first day and I got one of the first batches I guess. Well up until a few days ago everything went well with the phone. But 2 days ago i put my phone in my pocket at work and 4 hours later I pull it out during lunch break and my phone was completely erased. It went back to stock asking for me to enter my google account. At first i thought that launcher pro was closed and i was back at the original home screen but everything was actually erased. I couldn't believe it. I never had this happen on any of my previous phones.. So I reinstalled everything and the same thing happened the next day but this time my phone was on and launcher pro kept force closing and it was stuck in a loop. Then i went to reboot and the phone was completely erased again. Is this apart of that rootkit chip that i have been hearing about? I havent even tried the temp root. When I think about it i have just started using launcher pro a few days ago. Could that be the problem? For now I wont use launcher pro and see what happens and I will keep yall updated. And thanks for any help that you can provide.
LAWL.... and the NAND strikes back.... if it happens consistently thatn it might be time to exchange for another oner
That happened to me once too. I also thought it might have been an adw launcher issue. Ive been back to the standard launcher for about a week now without any issues, but I dont really know if that was the problem
I don't know if Launcher Pro might be the problem. That was probably the first thing I installed when I received the phone. I haven't had this happened to me and I'm using the Visionary temp root.
ok so far since i dont have launcher pro installed everything is working fine no reboots today from what i can tell.
I had the same exact problem. I go to sleep, wake up to look at my phone to send a text.. and all of my text are removed. This happened yesterday, I was soo mad I contacted Tmobile and they told me some stupid stuff like get a sms backup.. I just paid 300 dollars for a phone, which was no problem, but we as customers shouldn't have to backup our text every 2 days.. that is redic to me. I am the type of person that likes to keep my LOGS of my text so I really like having them there even from my old G1 3 years ago I try to keep them. old pictures that girls send me via text I want to keep that.... and keep in mind I don't use launcher pro just because of the problems i've been hearing it has. SO this happened on a Stock, never tried the temp root tmobile G2. crazy huh? and I don't have insurance on it, so I am kinda put in a bad position. ANy suggestions? it's past my 14 days. Keep in mind I REALLY love this phone though, just that was too much for me. I don't want to go to sleep and wake up with every text removed ever again. Oh and I get random reboots.. prolly 2 a day. HOpfully this update I am hearing about from androidspin will stop all those problems.. is it me or does the G2 seem to have worst reception than the G1? sorry for the long message, just wanted to vent to other G2 users.. I love the phone though, best phone ever if working correctly
Try waking with no software on your phone. That happen 36 hours after getting the phone. Did a recovery and everything came back With the exception of all my personal stuff. Funny thing is whatever happened In the middle of the night fried my sim. Everything is good now going on 2 weeks. I absolutely love this phone.
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My phone is just messed up. Every time I get a call or make a call, the phone will just be completely become unresponsive after the call. The screen is completely black, I have to turn off the phone and turn it back on. The phone somtimes turns off on its own (started about a month ago). I have no idea why this phone is reported to have so many issues without any recognition from my service provider, Bell. Every time I talk to their data support they say the phone has been flawless and have no reports of any issues. This phone has such potential to be amazing as long as it just works. I didn't have any real serious lag. The little lag I did have was tolerable. But the phone turning off and becoming unresponsive is of course unacceptable. I can't find my reciept, I bought it at Best Buy. So until I find it, I can't take it to Bell for warranty.
I am running the newest firmware, the phone is completely stock, haven't done anything to it. There has been no applications installed. Had the phone since Aug.24/10.
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My phone is just messed up. Every time I get a call or make a call, the phone will just be completely become unresponsive after the call. The screen is completely black, I have to turn off the phone and turn it back on. The phone somtimes turns off on its own (started about a month ago). I have no idea why this phone is reported to have so many issues without any recognition from my service provider, Bell. Every time I talk to their data support they say the phone has been flawless and have no reports of any issues. This phone has such potential to be amazing as long as it just works. I didn't have any real serious lag. The little lag I did have was tolerable. But the phone turning off and becoming unresponsive is of course unacceptable. I can't find my reciept, I bought it at Best Buy. So until I find it, I can't take it to Bell for warranty.
I am running the newest firmware, the phone is completely stock, haven't done anything to it. There has been no applications installed. Had the phone since Aug.24/10.
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This sounds like the infamous coma syndromevfound on our i9000m bell SGS models.
My phone just started doing this randomly 60 days after owning it.
There is a thread here all about it. Search the fourms with the keyword comatose and you will find it.
Bell HAS aknowledged this issue and there is a master ticket open fir it. They say they are working with Samsung to resolve the issue. My post in the other thread lists the master ticket number.
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Hey everyone, i decided to create a thread for all Atrix owners for all Hardware/Software issues.
The goal is to hopefully document all known problems so that owners can be aware of issues and possible solutions.
I don't have a Atrix myself, but 2 friends of mine do and i will post there issues and the problems we have had so far!
So please post all problems so that we can easily find issues here.
So 2 of my friends have the Atrix and man it's been ridiculous so far!
Friend M. the "mooseman", is on his 3rd Atrix!!!
-First issue he had on Atrix #1, the charge/battery low LED on the top right did not turn on ever! When charging or full battery or low battery, led never came on!
-Second issue on Atrix #1, the phone wouldn't want to charge past the 40% charge mark either using the wall charger or from usb power from a pc. Factory reset, removing battery and cycling battery no good.
Solution: Atrix was exchanged for a new unit.
Atrix #2 from the "mooseman"
-First issue was again a charging issue that got stuck at a percentage, i think it was at 80%, even after being left on wall charger for a hour, Again no good.
-Second issue was that the screen was "Flickering" mainly very noticeable on any black displayed on the screen. We first saw it on the home screen background on a black part of the background, tried resetting rebooting, no good!
Solution: Atrix was exchanged for a new unit. At the bell store the tech wasn't even able to access the sim card over usb on the Atrix with a special device they had to copy sim contacts and info.
"Mooseman" is on his 3rd Atrix and so far so good, for now. All his Atrix's were from Bell and running 2.2
Friend M-furries. the "Iranian Warlord", will be going onto his 4th Atrix!!!
-First issue with his Atrix #1, he was experiencing call connection problems and dropped calls if i remember correctly. Also he told me that it would turn on by itself sometimes.
Solution: Exchanged the Atrix for a new one.
-Issue on Attrix #2, he had rooted the phone and enable 3rd party programs within settings, phone was functioning fine and was rebooted many times without issue.
He then decided to download "Talking Carl.ipa" which is a iphone app lol, why, god knows, but he tried it and when he did it didn't work as expected and gave him a force close, he forced closed and when he did, the phone rebooted.
Only thing was that know it wasn't booting up at all! It remained on the pulsing moto bootup logo and did not boot, even after many attempts nothing.
He went into recovery mode and did factory reset, what happened after that?
His phone booted up except that the resolution of the screen was as if it was really high as everything including the main menu, taskbar icons, text, everything was supper small and very hard to see!!! Furthermore he tried the phone dialer and nothing, it would try to open then instantly close! So no more phone except if it was a incoming call . He then looked for a stock rom for the Atrix but didn't find any so he tried to install gingerblur rom and still no good, everything was super small and phone dialer still closed when launched! We downloaded all drivers, moto agent and motorola sync and could you believe that there is no emergency firmware recovery within motorola sync!!! No recovery or option to upload a firmware, wtf!!! The samsung galaxy S had that option through Samsung Kies, as does the iPhone from iTunes, what the hell motorola!!! Called there tech support and it was useless, they tried a ota update lol!
Solution: Exchanged the Atrix for a new one.
-Attrix #3, he had it for a couple of weeks and now he is getting an issue with the screen "Flickering", it appears to be "Flickering" on the top status bar!!!
Solution: "Iranian Warlord" will be sending this unit in to get another one!!! He will be on his 4th Atrix!!! lol! All his Atrix's were also from Bell and running 2.2
Mods, can we make this a stickey?
Tell us more..
Well hopefully he will have a good unit when he gets his 4th Atrix, i hope! I'll let you guys know as soon as he gets it.
Update: Actually my friend with the "Attrix #3, he had it for a couple of weeks and now he is getting an issue with the screen "Flickering", it appears to be "Flickering" on the top status bar!!!"
After further investigation, It's actually the whole screen that was flickering, furthermore it only appeared when the battery was around 20%, however it disappeared as the battery further discharge towards the 5% battery level, strange indeed. Perhaps somethings up with the power management.
We also found out that there is a Bell update for 2.2 that fixes a couple of bugs, so we'll try that out on his phone and after testing it for a while I'll post here any updates from it! Hope that it works because these are awesome superphones!
We are going to try this update first before getting the 4th atrix.
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-Issue on Attrix #2, he had rooted the phone and enable 3rd party programs within settings, phone was functioning fine and was rebooted many times without issue.
He then decided to download "Talking Carl.ipa" which is a iphone app lol, why, god knows, but he tried it and when he did it didn't work as expected and gave him a force close, he forced closed and when he did, the phone rebooted.
Only thing was that know it wasn't booting up at all! It remained on the pulsing moto bootup logo and did not boot, even after many attempts nothing.
He went into recovery mode and did factory reset, what happened after that?
His phone booted up except that the resolution of the screen was as if it was really high as everything including the main menu, taskbar icons, text, everything was supper small and very hard to see!!! Furthermore he tried the phone dialer and nothing, it would try to open then instantly close! So no more phone except if it was a incoming call . He then looked for a stock rom for the Atrix but didn't find any so he tried to install gingerblur rom and still no good, everything was super small and phone dialer still closed when launched! We downloaded all drivers, moto agent and motorola sync and could you believe that there is no emergency firmware recovery within motorola sync!!! No recovery or option to upload a firmware, wtf!!! The samsung galaxy S had that option through Samsung Kies, as does the iPhone from iTunes, what the hell motorola!!! Called there tech support and it was useless, they tried a ota update lol!
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Sorry to say but your friend is an IDIOT there! Like really? What was he thinking loading an iPhone app. It's OBVIOUS that it WON'T work. I mean if it was THAT easy, we'd have ALL of the iPhone apps running alongside with our android ones! Second this is in no means a fault on the Atrix. This is purely HIS fault. Your friend took the chance too root. He should have done his research and had he, he would have read in basically every ROM/root thread here that THE BELL ATRIX does NOT have a SBF to fall back.
I'm just surprise that Bell would let you exchange the phone because once you root, you lose your warranty.
fairly happy with 2nd one BUT !!! .....
My 2nd Atrix works OK so far. The first had the voice quality issue.
I still have 2 big problems:
1. WiFi crashing router. After some time (sometimes many hours) my router will crash (needs full restart/unplug). I put the Atrix on its own router so it does not affect the rest of my home network.
This happens with my Actiontec (FIOS), D-Link Dir655 and Linksys WRT54GP2 (super old but thats what the Atrix is currently on)
My DIR655 is running pretty old Firmware but I just dread redoing all my setup/config if I go to the latest 1.3x.
Does anyone here use the Atrix on a DIR655 N router without problems?
I turned Wifi sleep of on the phone etc, etc but still!
Pretty annoying but I can live with it. My first Atrix did exactly the same.
2. VOIP mic problems! Skype, sipdroid etc... Its supposedly a problem with the MOTO implementation of the AudioSource Object. Its very limited and does not allow commonly used settings. I read that you can also only use the back mic.
I wonder what MOTOs official statement on that is?
Its true and I told him that he was retarded for even trying that lol! Luckily he was able to change it! However he is still having issues with this atrix, he's waiting for the bell ota update to fix a bunch of bugs on 2.2
My 2 friend's haven't had any wifi problems though, perhaps its the router your on? Wifi has always worked on all they're atrix's that they had so far!
Issues:
1. The LED (one of them would flicker and then go off).
2. The voice quality on the phone. Everyone would tell me I sounded muffled.
3. I have a problem with network error on the Market app.
4. If I leave my finger relatively still on the screen for longer than 15 secs, the will stop responding for a few secs and go crazy. (This happens with all units. It's a "feature" on the phone). Kind of makes it hard to play games.
5. I can't lay down the phone on any surface that is not flat, as the LCD will not work (ie. bed)
6. I get randomly disconnected from the AT&T network.
7. I get a few reboots per week. Sometimes in the middle of a call.
That's all. Besides those things, the phone...is still horrible.
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Does anyone here use the Atrix on a DIR655 N router without problems?
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I'm actually using a DIR655 and I don't have any problems. Then again, I'm using firmware 1.33NA. That's bizarre though, I've never heard of a device crashing the router. I'd recommend that you bite the bullet and upgrade your firmware. You do know that you can save your current configuration, right? It's under:
Tools > System > Save to local harddrive
Love this phone so far. Luckily I haven't noticed any of the mentioned problems. Except 1, with VOIP, it doesn't seem to be working properly. Yesterday I tried Skype, tried speakerphone, tried headset, tried BT, nothing worked, I can hear the caller, but they can't hear me at all. Now today I tried again, I can still hear them, and there is a weird progress, they can hear me, not with BT, but with headset and speaker both, but my voice as they say was very broken, noisy, too much disturbance etc...
Besides this issue, (M)Atrix rocks!!!
Atrix just wont connect to mobile data, it will tease you with showing you there is an H+ connection available, but it wont let you axx it..
And it worked fine for one day x.x
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Issues:
1. The LED (one of them would flicker and then go off).
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no issue here on that...not sure what to suggest :/
2. The voice quality on the phone. Everyone would tell me I sounded muffled.
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hmm...I remember reading that people that had this issue, when they lowered the noise cancelation feature, they didn't sound muffle anymore. Maybe you can try this out? I don't have this issue, so not sure if that will help.
3. I have a problem with network error on the Market app.
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Are you still getting this on WIFI? I know sometimes the Market acts up on its own, though I haven't heard of it happening recently.
4. If I leave my finger relatively still on the screen for longer than 15 secs, the will stop responding for a few secs and go crazy. (This happens with all units. It's a "feature" on the phone). Kind of makes it hard to play games.
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hmm...got to try this to see if I have this issue.
5. I can't lay down the phone on any surface that is not flat, as the LCD will not work (ie. bed)
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I've noticed the opposite accutally...if the phone is ON a flat surface, it doesn't respond properly. Like multiple times I am required to click on an icon shortcut on the homescreen.
7. I get a few reboots per week. Sometimes in the middle of a call.
That's all. Besides those things, the phone...is still horrible.
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I think you should exchange it for a different phone :/ I know the reboot issue is fixed with the 1.5.something update for AT&T.
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Atrix just wont connect to mobile data, it will tease you with showing you there is an H+ connection available, but it wont let you axx it..
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Have you forced trottle your network to only be 3G? Are you in a known weak 3G area when that happens?
I've had the phone for a few months, only used it for 2 weeks then put it back in the box with plans to resell it. Dad needed a new phone for his job so i decided to give it to him and every day for the past week ive gotten at least one phone call from him with problems. He is extremely new to smart phones but I never had a single issue with this phone prior to giving it to him. For some reason he will receive text messages or voice mail and sees the notification icons up on the notification bar but when he goes to pull the bar down it does nothing. The only way to resolve this issue is to restart the phone then all of a sudden the pull-down starts to function as it should. The phone is completely stock out the box i didn't feel the need to touch anything or have to root it for any reason.
He had to go to AT&T to get a sim card for it and the people there basically wanted to run him out of the store and not even touch the phone because they do not sell it so not a single person wanted to even help him out even though he just dropped more money into their pockets by upgrading his plan to a smart phone plan. before i gave him the phone all i did was a factory reset to wipe out any of my data on the phone so it was clean and like new for him.
Im at a loss because the whole time i used the phone i had no issues and since the day he got it he has had nothing but problems. I chalked this up to user error but its not because when he gave it to me to see if i could figure out why things were acting weird the only thing i could think to do was restart the phone. Does anyone have any suggestions as to why this may be happening and/or how to go about fixing it and not making him regret ever having to get a smart phone much less this N4?
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What messaging apps are you using? You could always download the toolkit and flash the stock factory image again.
I would try another factory reset just to make sure things didn't go haywire during the reset you already did. I have had a bad reset with a phone before.
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yeah im gonna have to get with my dad and fool with the phone more. Its hard to troubleshoot something when he lives 45mins away and calls me with problems while im at work.
ONCE AGAIN the whole phone is stock so that would lead me to believe that the stock messaging app is being used. I will talk him through doing a reset again and see how that works out for him. From what he told me the only app hes even installed outside of everything that comes on the phone was Map Quest, which i told him he shouldn't need because Google Maps is already loaded on. So first im going to have him uninstall that from the phone as well as from his downloaded apps list in the play store and see if that changes anything.