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Hello All:
This is my first post here but just reading around has solved many problems for me already. However, my phone (sprint mogul 8600) has been misbehaving and even a hard reset did not solve this problem.
My problem is that the stupid thing won't stay asleep, ruining my battery life and sanity. Is there a way to set it so that it will only wake on active decisions (incoming text, incoming call) and me pushing the power button? I've cruised option after option but I haven't been able to find anything useful.
It still functions properly when it should wake up, it just seems to wake up every few minutes on my desk and i think i have an incoming something to deal with. In the end I have just stopped paying attention and have missed lots of calls because of it.
My apologies if there is a faq that goes over this already, I looked but could not find.
Thanks in advance
Battery life goes down approximately 50% per 10 hrs because the phone turns on as if someone hit the power button at irregular intervals. Is the phone SUPPOSED to be able to turn on for reasons other than incoming messages or using the power button? Its driving me crazy, I can't even go out for a day because it will run out of battery.
Are you running a custom rom or stock rom? If stock, is the most up to date from your carrier? After you did the hard reset, did you test it before installing any cab files? It's possible one of the apps you are installing may cause this.
If it's the stock rom and you are installing nothing, I would say it's a defective phone.
I know on an old PDA I had years back at midnight every night it would turn on, it would do maintenance on my scheduler and then turn back off, but haven't seen my phone ever do this during normal hours.
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It has to be software on that rom or additional installed by you. If you haven't installed any software you might want to try flashing a custom rom and see if that takes care of it.
i have had the same problems with my ppc6800 and blackjack 2, i think it has to do with the changing networks... on my drive home from mass to maine it will do it in about 5 spots anyways consistantly. in my hotel in mass i get crappy reception and itll do it every now and then. this has been an issue with both phones. bugs the hell outta me on my trip home cus itll light up, then i grab it to figure out why and theres nothing... learned to live with it
I performed a hard reset after continued trouble with this. It will come on at least 1 time per hour, and as often as every 5 minutes, with absolutely nothing done to it short of initial calibration/data entry. It will also do this sitting on my desk, not moving or anything.
I suppose I could try a custom rom, but I fear I am opening pandora's box, as I am told these phones are on backorder if i happen to brick mine. Any recommendations for a new ROM to try?
This is normal.
Is this sufficient problem to get it replaced? A hard reset and nothing else and problem persists.
It's a win mobile "feature" since the early WinCE days. Every Palm-size/WinCE/WinMO device I've owned turned itself on from time to time. Now, it's blamed on network changes, mostly going in and out of EVDO coverage. When these were simple PDA's, it was blamed on internal housekeeping. If you corner a MS rep on the issue, they will blame the hardware and outside software vendors. I never believed them. Either get used to it or buy a device other than a WinMo based, it will never ever be fixed!
BTW, I'm in my basement where I get less than an ideal signal and my Mogul has turned on and off 3 times while I was typing this.
I have my phone sitting next to me in the cradle all night long, 2-3 hours before I go to bed I turn out the lights to either view my laptop easier or watch TV, if my phone was turning on I would know it because I would have bright light in my eyes.
So I would say it's not as common as you described in the 2-3 times while composing the email. Mine might turn on at midnight, tho I am usually asleep by then, so I can't say for sure, but the only time it turns on (that I know of) is when I receive a text message or a phone call. Emails don't wake up my phone. And I get 20-30 emails a day.
I am on a 1X only network, no EVDO here yet, so it could be an issue with EVDO, in my phone settings I have an option for Service Tone, that makes a beeping sound when I lose or regain service, might try turning that on and see if it's beeping when the phone is turning on. If so, it's a signal issue.
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I have this problem too and hate it. Every time I come out of the subway the phone turns on in my pocket. I cant drive at night with the phone facing up on the dash because it turns on every couple of mins. It's completely annoying, kills the battery and launches tons of programs, every once in a while it makes calls too. I would be very happy to get this "feature" taken off my phone!
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WinMo devices turning on all by themselves is the reason there are so many screen lock programs available. If you've got a WM device and plan to carry it in a confined pocket (like your pants) check out S2U2 or throttlelock. Your phone turns on when leaving the subway because it's aquiring a signal, it probably turned on while in the train while searching for signal too. While driving, you're probably passing in and out of 3G coverage which will also turn the device on. If you stay in a solid signal area, the phone will stay off for the most part, but that does negate the whole mobile thing a bit. The center of my basement where my home theater is gets a inconsistant 3G signal. My Mogul will turn on and off and kill the battery in a few hours. My wifes Palm, my friends BB's and iphones won't turn on once. Once again, the issue of WM/PocketPC/WinCE turning on for no apparent reason has been a c ommon complaint for years, at least to the Casio E105 days when I started on my WM journey. Since MS has never addressed the issue, I doubt they ever will.
I have never had the phone random come on from sleep. Leaving and entering coverage doesn't change that. I say you have something in the rom causing the problem or a program running in the background
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I have never had the phone random come on from sleep. Leaving and entering coverage doesn't change that. I say you have something in the rom causing the problem or a program running in the background
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You've never taken the phone out of a pocket or holster to find it already on? My 6700 on VZW did and I think I ran every ROM developed for it at one time or another, each of my 3 Moguls running various OEM and custom ROM's did/does. I've heard similar complaints from coworkers running various
WM devices. A friend I take the train with daily complained about this with his AT&T Tilt too. Both my non phone Axims (x5 & x51) occasionally turned on as did my Toshiba E805, Casio e100, e105 and e115. Every WinCE based device forum I have participated in over the years has featured complaints about WM turning on with no user interaction. Obviously, it's not a deal breaker for me, but it does happen...a lot. The issue in my basement is the extreme of the problem, move the phone towards the exterior walls and the phone reverts to only turning on and quickly off occasionally. Another example. When traveling by LIRR to Penn Station the phone will stay off even when entering the river tunnel ad traveling under Manhattan. At some point when I exit the station, the phone turns itself on. Since I'm walking in rush hour crowds, I've never tried to find at which exact point my Mogul turns on, but it's always on when I get my coffee in Borders Cafe.
I have never taken it out of my pocket and have it been turned on. It is always in sleep mode.
This also happens to me, i own a mogul, and this is really and extremely annoying.
i have test it for few months and this is my conclusion.
As you guys said already just wait for few min and it will turn on the screen, but also when i shake it and when you hit it.
it really is a battery killer.
lepapirriky said:
This also happens to me, i own a mogul, and this is really and extremely annoying.
i have test it for few months and this is my conclusion.
As you guys said already just wait for few min and it will turn on the screen, but also when i shake it and when you hit it.
it really is a battery killer.
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If it's turning on when you shake it, you probably have a hardware issue.
im sry for posting another topic, went through all other topics and none helped me, my x10 has been rebooting randomly alot, never did when i first got it
it restarts when im using edge while browsing the internet, restarts sometimes during games, restarts when calling someone and ALOT when i use it when its plugged
i tried so far flashing it from SEUS, removing apps, playing around with settings
its a problem so big for me im concidering changing phones, and returning the x10 to a shop or sending it for warranty arnt options for me
I think it's the phone running out of Ram because your having too much stuff open
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I think it's the phone running out of Ram because your having too much stuff open
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no, usually happens after it just booted while doing a random action
Probably time to back up your apps and wipe things out. Also, defrag your SD card because a few times mine became amazingly fragmented.
You could back track and try figuring out what app or what change had caused this but for the same amount of effort you can start fresh. I routinely wipe things out. I do it partially because if you only do a few reformats every now and again it becomes a daunting, intimidating task where you fear losing important info, etc.. just my two cents.
Mine is doing it too, while I have almost no extra applications installed and I don't use timescape and very rarely mediascape.
Just laying on my desk when suddenly the display lights up and the phone says simcard locked (asking for my pincode).
Happens approx. once every 1-2 days, and sometimes a short time after I reboot.
I never noticed it in the almost 6 months I have this phone, until I plugged in a new simcard with the pincode request active
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Reseating the SIM and SD card can definitely help too. But I've personally used the same SIM cards for years without challenges on the network or with my phones. Sometimes you get a dud or some dust in there.
I like using Hot Reboot to reboot my phone from time to time as well. I don't do it too often because I like to see how long my battery lasts, but it helps out a ton. Much better than killing tasks. I only do that before putting my phone to sleep for a long time, just in case some stray apps don't close or trick WiFi into staying on, etc.
My phone seems to be rebooting much more when I plug in to charge (while on the phone or having the earphones plugged in) . . . Its really annoying. Last night just trying to talk to my girlfriend it rebooted about.. 7 times? Less than 30 minutes. That is very frustrating. . I'll go home later and try to defrag the card and maybe the sim and such. I'll see what happens.. if it keeps up I might just have to go back to the storm1 until 2.1 comes out. Hopefully that'll fix this rebooting problem..
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My phone seems to be rebooting much more when I plug in to charge (while on the phone or having the earphones plugged in) . . . Its really annoying. Last night just trying to talk to my girlfriend it rebooted about.. 7 times? Less than 30 minutes. That is very frustrating. . I'll go home later and try to defrag the card and maybe the sim and such. I'll see what happens.. if it keeps up I might just have to go back to the storm1 until 2.1 comes out. Hopefully that'll fix this rebooting problem..
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same here, its a perfect phone i and i dnt mind anything in it but the reboot problem, cuz i already have a couple of deals lined up to sell it and if the prob isnt fixed any time soon im gonna take the plunge and sell it
it is a hardware failure. If you smell the back (behind the cover) u smell something burning. it will hapen more often and than you have to take it to a repair center where they can fix it under warrenty. They are repairing mine right now.....
I have same issue in HK & got replace mainboard but still got error restart.
Finally they change a new X10i to me beside they need me keep my old back cover!
My friend has got the same issue and the phone was sent back with the same problem again. In return we sent it back again to sony and we received a new phone
I wonder if the restarting could be related to wifi,
I didn't enable the wifi for about 2 weeks now and it didn't reboot once.
Just leaving 3g network on for the moment.
get your x10 replaced with its motherboard. i had to threaten legal action just to get the restart loop fixed.
its a very common problem with a faulty batch or with the phone itself. you can check all the complaints here
talk dot sonyericsson dot com/message/24287
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im sry for posting another topic, went through all other topics and none helped me, my x10 has been rebooting randomly alot, never did when i first got it
it restarts when im using edge while browsing the internet, restarts sometimes during games, restarts when calling someone and ALOT when i use it when its plugged
i tried so far flashing it from SEUS, removing apps, playing around with settings
its a problem so big for me im concidering changing phones, and returning the x10 to a shop or sending it for warranty arnt options for me
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m8 i had exactly the same problem first the restart was just randomly and then the START became random i mean when i boot my phone it restarted itself over and over again so i turn it off and leave it to rest then when i switch it on again i was able to use it about 30 min and then the restarting session comes back again and i wasnt even able to log in to Android OS . The device just reached Sonny Ericsson logo and restart .SO i gave it back to the shop i bought it from and after few days they gave me new one coz it was some hardware issue they couldnt fix that was the only way to repair it for me.
P.s. 1st i bought black xperia but they gave me white cant be more happy coz i wanted white when i first went to the shop but they ware all sold ..
I think it happens when the phone gets too hot. check the back of your phone and feel it it is overly warm, I know my phone has rebooted sometimes when I have been doing cpu intensive tasks and multitasking or using the gps for a while. This happened with my g1 as well.
Are you using a Task Killer? If so, do NOT kill the Backup and Restore application on the phone and see if that resolves your problem.
I know it sounds strange, but I was having a similar issue where my phone would randonly restarted. It only started to happen after I did a firmware upgrade that installed the Backup and Restore feature (I'm on Rogers). Once I stopped killing the app, my problems stopped.
For mine it was GPS. Disabling GPS stops rebooting the phone.
bad chipset... return to se.
Before I tried all the other MODs, especially Froyo ROMs, everything works fine.
After trying and flashing and downloading and ... my GPS will now work for nearly 30 mins or equal to kilometers driven and then reboots or GPS signal lost
It needs to cool down or the timeframe will be shorter just after the reboot. To turn GPS on/off will not work.
I tried everything in any possible combination:with and without backcover; car charger; Navigon, MAPs; reflashed back to 2.1 Stock; formatting SDCard; changed SDCard - problem remains
I wouldn't say that it's the cover will be hot..yes warm, but that's all.
My problem is, that there is a little crack on the touchscreen on the upper left side, so I guess SE will not replace my generic full-paid handset.
I still have this problem lately, and it is right out of warranty, so i am stuck with this phone.
I check with robbers (rogers) if i can get another phone cheaper... heck they are selling me old smart phones more expensive then the market.
I think i am through with Sony ericsson, phone is nice but their choice of manufacturers are horrible.
Seriously, Sony deserve to be hacked and deserve to lose billions.
My Omnia 7 keeps loosing it's 3G connection. To restore it I have to restart the phone. T-Mobile say that this happens from time to time, but it's happening every day now. It's annoying as it stops my push email from being up to date, and of course prevents the use of any internet based services until the phone is restarted.
Has anyone else noticed their phone has switching to GSM?
Had mine for 6 days.Been fine up until today,then I had the same problem.Only the once so far.
Confirm loosing 3G
Confirm loosing 3G connection, and also have phone call failures.
Factory reset did not solve the problem.
Bring it back to shop
Blackstone is back now!
At first this was occasional with my phone, then more frequent, and it's all the time. If I want to use the Internet I have to restart the phone. My house is covered by full HSPA, but the only way to get it is to take the battery out while the phone is switched on. I can sometimes get 3G by a simple restart, which I lasts about 40 minutes.
I like the phone, so I'm going to hold out for a software update. All it needs to do is check available networks and I think that, if this is a wide spread issue, Samsung/Microsoft will fix it. Hope so.
Please post here if you have this issue too.
I have also been having this issue... sometimes it doesnt come back straight away when i restart it but after about 10mins its back.
When I activated it with orange I was told to expect a few txt msg's that would need deleting and the phone restarting... I only got 1 msg, maybe this has something to do with it, maybe the phone hasnt been sent enough updates.
I also have this issue and have done for weeks. Orange couldn't solve it either.
It only happens overnight at home. I either need to reset the phone / rescan available networks or turn flight mode off and on again for the connection to restore.
I was thinking it may be an issue with t-mobile since it only happens at my home where orange signal is poor and i roam over to t-mobile.
If i stay in an area with good Orange signal i don't get the problem.
Good to know i'm not the only one with this problem. It's very annoying!
Hi y'all.
I had the same problem: 3G was lost every time. I was fed up restarting the phone every time, so I looked for another way to get 3G back. I found out that disabling and enabling SIM security (phone > setttings) got me 3G again... for a short while.
But: after disabling SIM security permanently, 3G kept on going (in fact for over a week now).
I think that changing the PIN to some other number, might cause this. I haven't yet tried changing it to the default PIN again, to see if using that for SIM security solves it. For the moment I'm too happy it works again.
I have suffered from poor reception issues ever since I got my Omnia 7.
It seems like the reception comes and goes. I will receive e-mails, which proves that the phone has been connected, but as soon as I try to use data myself, by visiting a web page or refreshing an app like facebook, the reception disappears and the "no reception" symbol drops down from the status bar.
Also, often when I try to send an SMS, it will appear to have been sent, yet 10 minutes later I will receive a "Can't send...try again" message. Once I have received this, the SMS will never successfully send. However, in the meantime I can receive SMS messages, which shows that the phone has been getting a signal.
This is SO frustrating and is ruining my experience with the phone.
I have posted requests on the Microsoft Answers forum and the only suggestions have been to reset the phone or turn WiFi off. Neither of these have had any effect. I have never enabled SIM lock.
I have heard that there is a firmware update due soon which includes a new radio stack. I am desperately hoping that this will improve the situation, as at the moment I cannot rely on my Omnia 7 as my only phone.
Alex.
Hi Loco,
You are right in saying that social answers doesn't really help much .
Luckily there IS a new firmware from a couple of days ago! Check out the Omnia 7 Dev section. There are only a few posts.
And here is also a good link for you. You are right to assume that it comes with a new radio stack which improves on performance.
http://wmpoweruser.com/new-samsung-omnia-7-firmware-and-news-of-a-keyboarded-omnia-8-leaks/
Finally found a thread on this... I have been having a similar problem since I got my phone from Optus here in Australia. I took it back and they replaced it for me but the new phone is exactly the same. I don't lose the 3G icon but anything data related just ceases from loading. Right now I'm trying to refresh the Facebook app and it just comes up with 'Unable to connect', even though I have full 3G reception.
I flashed it to the newer leaked firmware and it hasn't changed anything, problem still persists unfortunately. This is a major problem that isn't getting enough attention! It seems quite widespread and Omnia 7 specific.
Had similar problems, but after I changed my provider ( O2-Germany), 3G is stable.
For the people having this problem, have you tried setting the phone to prefer 3g? Details of how to do this are here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=915813
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Finally found a thread on this... I have been having a similar problem since I got my phone from Optus here in Australia. I took it back and they replaced it for me but the new phone is exactly the same. I don't lose the 3G icon but anything data related just ceases from loading. Right now I'm trying to refresh the Facebook app and it just comes up with 'Unable to connect', even though I have full 3G reception.
I flashed it to the newer leaked firmware and it hasn't changed anything, problem still persists unfortunately. This is a major problem that isn't getting enough attention! It seems quite widespread and Omnia 7 specific.
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Same here man. On Optus and my reception sucks with this device. What the hell is samsung doing? FIX IT!
I have been having this problem with my Omnia 7. The frustrating thing is this is a replacement phone I had for an LG which I had replaced THREE TIMES due to random resets. So now I have a phone that I have to turn off and on EVERY MORNING in order for the data connection to start working again. Needless to say I am very frustrated. I am on Orange in the UK. I suspect it could be related to when being an a poor reception area and it tries to switch to tmobile. I am going to try turning roaming off. Please, if anyone finds a solution to this let me know.
Thanks
m4tthall said:
I have been having this problem with my Omnia 7. The frustrating thing is this is a replacement phone I had for an LG which I had replaced THREE TIMES due to random resets. So now I have a phone that I have to turn off and on EVERY MORNING in order for the data connection to start working again. Needless to say I am very frustrated. I am on Orange in the UK. I suspect it could be related to when being an a poor reception area and it tries to switch to tmobile. I am going to try turning roaming off. Please, if anyone finds a solution to this let me know.
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My problem got worse with the Mango update. I'm now on my 2nd handset after having a replacement from Orange warranty. This one still loses it's connection but much less frequently.
TBH i don't think it will ever get fixed. I started an MS Answers thread months ago and lots of people had the same problem but we never got a response from MS.
Conisdering the age of the model now I doubt Samsung care, well they didn't seem to care a year ago so they won't now... For this reason I will not buy another Samsung phone. It's infuriating.
Looks like I am stuck with it until December then when I can upgrade to a Nokia lumia. A long wait :-(
i have this issue, too.. but for me i only have to set airplane mode on and off. sometimes i deactivate data connection, go to a random website, get the 'no connection' error, then activate data connection back and it works.
however, after installing the latest drivers & firmware, i get this issue A LOT less frequent. like once in 2-3 days.
i hope ms or samsung will fix this because it can get really annoying. especially when you need eg. a quick google-search..
Just flicking the flight mode wouldn't be so bad but that doesn't work for me, I have to restart the phone each time. I love WP7 but this and the other problems with the LG is driving me nuts. Almost wondering whether I should have just followed the crowd and gone for an iPhone.
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Just flicking the flight mode wouldn't be so bad but that doesn't work for me, I have to restart the phone each time. I love WP7 but this and the other problems with the LG is driving me nuts. Almost wondering whether I should have just followed the crowd and gone for an iPhone.
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Same as me - Flicking flight mode on-off doesn't solve it, needs a soft-reset.
Like I say, there are quite a few with Omnias on Orange with this problem.
I'm in the same boat, I've had this for months now so I guess I'll just deal with it until I can upgrade the start of April and get a Lumia (hopefully the EU 900/910 will be here by then!). There is no way on this earth Samsung are getting any more of my money. Nokia seem fully commited so they can take my cash next time!
I have the same problem with the data stopping working on o2 in the UK. But I also sometimes cant receive calls even though the phone has service, then there are the times where it site there going GPRS/3G/3G+/No Service and you cant do anything with it apart from pull the battery.
Trying to see if there's something in common with those who are experiencing lock ups.
My crashes arent frequently but it has happened a few times
Seem like I am having some crashing, though it seems to be dependent on using data service with little or no 3G reception. 16gb Model.
My units is not crashing all the time but it does it at least once a day which is bad. It seems to be when trying to switch between using cell network and WiFi. Would be nice if it was fixable with firmware.
Mine hasn't crashed so far. I tried downloading Harvest Game and it went fine over wifi. Tried heavy browsing with music in bgrnd and that too was fine. Only issue was the Bluetooth not communicating to the car properly. Its been a week now.
ive crashed only once, which was in the newsroom app, i was also updating marketplace one time and instead of crashing it would just take me back to the start menu..
mine has been crashing quite a bit...16 gig less than 14 gig available...
In the first 36 hrs I had the phone, I spent at least half of it in the PC connect screen. The phone would not boot...well..sometimes. Then it would boot by itself...reboot rather.
I called MS, ZUNE support. They helped walked me through some basic steps. Apparently I was touching the side buttons, camera, volume down, while powering up. Not sure if this was true, but dam they could reproduce the PC connect everytime. Since that call, I was more careful about powering up and have had no problems since.
I do get a lag in IE on WiFi, sometimes, not often, but daily. I found a web page that always sends me back to the desktop.
But crashing.....I have to be honest and admit that most of the crashes...if not all, in the first 36 hrs, probably were user errors. Now, I'm not a novice. I own more smartphones than most people on this forum. And if the phone buttons are that sensitive, then something is not right. However, since I've grown accustomed to the button layout and sensitivity, I've not had a single malfunction.
I've also recognized that certain apps are prone to causing, umm....unexpected results. Maybe instead of voting on crashes...we should keep a list of app suspects....
I got 2 units.
The first one had the Wifi issue and was constantly crashing.
The second one the Wifi is good, and it never crashed.
Maybe is related?
It seems to me that my device crashes a lot when my Wifi is on
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Seem like I am having some crashing, though it seems to be dependent on using data service with little or no 3G reception. 16gb Model.
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Same here, also 16GB model. Every crash I've had has either been related to the Marketplace, or it's happened when my rickety 3G connection had poor signal.
This sucks. Mine is crashing EVERYTIME I try to dl something related to xbox live (games) over wifi. Should I have this exchanged???
Crashes a lot. Sometimes back to back so after doing numerous battery pulls, I had mine switched out. Its always an app though that crashes it and the screen becomes unresponsive. Phone goes to home screen and the people hub is grayed out. Its not an os specific crash cuz my hd7 doesn't do that.
So far phone is mostly stable, crashes have been only with wifi enabled, and only had 1 other crash without wifi on. Been running for the last 3 days, no crash at all.
I have had my phone almost a week and have been noticing the crashing a bit more frequent. It always seems like when I am in the MP or using an app that requires retrieving data from the cloud.
I got mine since November... never saw it crashing
Only once it would not start...I had to remove the batteries and put them back on.
I have a feeling it goes with having it in your pocket for a long time.
Sometimes (happened twice in 3 month) the screen locks but it has something to do with static electricity, or rain (I switched on and off and it worked).
I got it upgraded to 32 GB by swapping the micro SD card.
Took a while to boot.... (I think it reformats the card) worked like a charm!
Fankly, it is the sexiest piece of hardware I've owned in a long time.
Much more stable than any phone I ever owned.
I've had my 16GB since the 28th. I have not had a single crash, freeze or hang in the 5 days I have been using it. OS performance wise, it has pretty much been perfect.
I am probably not a typical owner though. I was an existing T-Mo customer on the EM+ plan. I didn't have to call or activate the DVP with T-Mo. I just took the SIM out of my flip phone and put it into my DVP and was up and running. Since I am on EM+ and I paid full price for the phone, I am also not required to have a data plan and I haven't gotten around to adding one yet. Everything I have done is solely over Wifi. I think the fact that I don't have a data plan is going to wind up being the explanation for my lack of problems. I don't know if it is a Microsoft or Dell problem, but 3G and WiFi just don't seem to get along well on the DVP.
Even though I have been limited to Wifi, I have been using this thing constantly trying to get everything setup. I haven't had any Marketplace issues at all. I've been using the Facebook, Twitter and Netflix apps quite a bit. No Xbox Live stuff or YouTube app though. I installed the LastPass app and tested almost all of 50+ logins without any issues. All in all, I think I have given my DVP a fairly tough stress test and I honestly have to say it has passed with pretty high marks.
That's not to say my DVP is perfect though. I have had some bugs. The biggest for me is the cellular antenna. I get a mediocre phone signal in my apartment. My flip phone would hover between 2 and 3 bars out of 5. I get much worse reception on the DVP. I get a ton of No Service notices, especially when I pick it up. But it isn't just a death grip issue. I'll sit the phone on the arm of my couch and watch it fluctuate between No Service and 1 or 2 bars. If I want to make a call on the DVP, I have to take laps around my apartment trying to find a decent signal. Not fun. Outside of the dead zone that live in the reception is fine. If I get 5 bars, it stays at 5 bars no matter how I hold it. I also don't care for the SMS texting app. When I attempt to send a text while I have a low signal, I don't get a confirmation either way after I hit send. I sent 3 texts in a row out on Thursday afternoon and only 1 got through. It would have been nice to see a "Message Sent" or Message Failed" confirmation either way. I also can't import Contacts from my Sim. I see the box for it on my People Settings page, but it is greyed out. Very annoying. And I know it's a known issue with Microsoft, but the not being able to connect to a WiFi with a hidden SSID is just ridiculous.
I really haven't made up my mind yet on whether I am keeping my DVP. On the one hand, I really like WP7 and it seems like I got lucky and got one of the problem free DVP's. But I'm also not sure if I can live with the bad reception at home. I guess I'll just have to wait and see if anything interesting is announced at CES.
16GB and it locked up all of the time... It would just freeze there with whatever it was on the screen. That happened until I turned Wifi off. Now it's great. The only time that it crashed with wifi off was when I was running Beezz and it just hard locked for some reason.
So I would like to have Wifi... 3G coverage is spotty at best where I live. What are the chances of a firmware fix, ya think? I'm almost tempted to send it back to Dell... Even though I love it to death. Gosh that keyboard is amazing...
I sure hope it gets sorted out...
Can someone list the symptoms of crashing? Is it just screen freeze or apps won't launch when touched or something different? I had case y'day where except people, email and phone, none of the other apps would launch. When launched it would just return to the home screen right away. Then a battery pull fixed it. That was the first i had the issue since receiving the phone on 12/23. I have time till end of this week to decide on return or replacement.
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I am probably not a typical owner though. I was an existing T-Mo customer on the EM+ plan. I didn't have to call or activate the DVP with T-Mo. I just took the SIM out of my flip phone and put it into my DVP and was up and running. Since I am on EM+ and I paid full price for the phone, I am also not required to have a data plan and I haven't gotten around to adding one yet.
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Mike, have you received any calls on it yet? My experience has been that you can make outgoing calls all you want, but you need to tell T-Mo the new IMEI number to receive calls. That could also be why you haven't gotten a notification about the text messages.
When I called T-Mo to get the phone set up, they also told me about the available insurance plans (from $5.99/mo that covers the phone completely-loss/theft/damage/etc, to less than $2 for minimal coverage). I was on an out-of-contract plan too and had to pick up the phone at full price. My plan was phone+data, no messaging, so I only pay for texting. Everything done over WiFi or 3G has been great.
As for crashes, I think it's locked up 3 times now that required removing the battery and putting it back in. Those all happened within the first few days of owning it, but not since. (got it on the 23rd)
Hey everyone, i decided to create a thread for all Atrix owners for all Hardware/Software issues.
The goal is to hopefully document all known problems so that owners can be aware of issues and possible solutions.
I don't have a Atrix myself, but 2 friends of mine do and i will post there issues and the problems we have had so far!
So please post all problems so that we can easily find issues here.
So 2 of my friends have the Atrix and man it's been ridiculous so far!
Friend M. the "mooseman", is on his 3rd Atrix!!!
-First issue he had on Atrix #1, the charge/battery low LED on the top right did not turn on ever! When charging or full battery or low battery, led never came on!
-Second issue on Atrix #1, the phone wouldn't want to charge past the 40% charge mark either using the wall charger or from usb power from a pc. Factory reset, removing battery and cycling battery no good.
Solution: Atrix was exchanged for a new unit.
Atrix #2 from the "mooseman"
-First issue was again a charging issue that got stuck at a percentage, i think it was at 80%, even after being left on wall charger for a hour, Again no good.
-Second issue was that the screen was "Flickering" mainly very noticeable on any black displayed on the screen. We first saw it on the home screen background on a black part of the background, tried resetting rebooting, no good!
Solution: Atrix was exchanged for a new unit. At the bell store the tech wasn't even able to access the sim card over usb on the Atrix with a special device they had to copy sim contacts and info.
"Mooseman" is on his 3rd Atrix and so far so good, for now. All his Atrix's were from Bell and running 2.2
Friend M-furries. the "Iranian Warlord", will be going onto his 4th Atrix!!!
-First issue with his Atrix #1, he was experiencing call connection problems and dropped calls if i remember correctly. Also he told me that it would turn on by itself sometimes.
Solution: Exchanged the Atrix for a new one.
-Issue on Attrix #2, he had rooted the phone and enable 3rd party programs within settings, phone was functioning fine and was rebooted many times without issue.
He then decided to download "Talking Carl.ipa" which is a iphone app lol, why, god knows, but he tried it and when he did it didn't work as expected and gave him a force close, he forced closed and when he did, the phone rebooted.
Only thing was that know it wasn't booting up at all! It remained on the pulsing moto bootup logo and did not boot, even after many attempts nothing.
He went into recovery mode and did factory reset, what happened after that?
His phone booted up except that the resolution of the screen was as if it was really high as everything including the main menu, taskbar icons, text, everything was supper small and very hard to see!!! Furthermore he tried the phone dialer and nothing, it would try to open then instantly close! So no more phone except if it was a incoming call . He then looked for a stock rom for the Atrix but didn't find any so he tried to install gingerblur rom and still no good, everything was super small and phone dialer still closed when launched! We downloaded all drivers, moto agent and motorola sync and could you believe that there is no emergency firmware recovery within motorola sync!!! No recovery or option to upload a firmware, wtf!!! The samsung galaxy S had that option through Samsung Kies, as does the iPhone from iTunes, what the hell motorola!!! Called there tech support and it was useless, they tried a ota update lol!
Solution: Exchanged the Atrix for a new one.
-Attrix #3, he had it for a couple of weeks and now he is getting an issue with the screen "Flickering", it appears to be "Flickering" on the top status bar!!!
Solution: "Iranian Warlord" will be sending this unit in to get another one!!! He will be on his 4th Atrix!!! lol! All his Atrix's were also from Bell and running 2.2
Mods, can we make this a stickey?
Tell us more..
Well hopefully he will have a good unit when he gets his 4th Atrix, i hope! I'll let you guys know as soon as he gets it.
Update: Actually my friend with the "Attrix #3, he had it for a couple of weeks and now he is getting an issue with the screen "Flickering", it appears to be "Flickering" on the top status bar!!!"
After further investigation, It's actually the whole screen that was flickering, furthermore it only appeared when the battery was around 20%, however it disappeared as the battery further discharge towards the 5% battery level, strange indeed. Perhaps somethings up with the power management.
We also found out that there is a Bell update for 2.2 that fixes a couple of bugs, so we'll try that out on his phone and after testing it for a while I'll post here any updates from it! Hope that it works because these are awesome superphones!
We are going to try this update first before getting the 4th atrix.
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-Issue on Attrix #2, he had rooted the phone and enable 3rd party programs within settings, phone was functioning fine and was rebooted many times without issue.
He then decided to download "Talking Carl.ipa" which is a iphone app lol, why, god knows, but he tried it and when he did it didn't work as expected and gave him a force close, he forced closed and when he did, the phone rebooted.
Only thing was that know it wasn't booting up at all! It remained on the pulsing moto bootup logo and did not boot, even after many attempts nothing.
He went into recovery mode and did factory reset, what happened after that?
His phone booted up except that the resolution of the screen was as if it was really high as everything including the main menu, taskbar icons, text, everything was supper small and very hard to see!!! Furthermore he tried the phone dialer and nothing, it would try to open then instantly close! So no more phone except if it was a incoming call . He then looked for a stock rom for the Atrix but didn't find any so he tried to install gingerblur rom and still no good, everything was super small and phone dialer still closed when launched! We downloaded all drivers, moto agent and motorola sync and could you believe that there is no emergency firmware recovery within motorola sync!!! No recovery or option to upload a firmware, wtf!!! The samsung galaxy S had that option through Samsung Kies, as does the iPhone from iTunes, what the hell motorola!!! Called there tech support and it was useless, they tried a ota update lol!
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Sorry to say but your friend is an IDIOT there! Like really? What was he thinking loading an iPhone app. It's OBVIOUS that it WON'T work. I mean if it was THAT easy, we'd have ALL of the iPhone apps running alongside with our android ones! Second this is in no means a fault on the Atrix. This is purely HIS fault. Your friend took the chance too root. He should have done his research and had he, he would have read in basically every ROM/root thread here that THE BELL ATRIX does NOT have a SBF to fall back.
I'm just surprise that Bell would let you exchange the phone because once you root, you lose your warranty.
fairly happy with 2nd one BUT !!! .....
My 2nd Atrix works OK so far. The first had the voice quality issue.
I still have 2 big problems:
1. WiFi crashing router. After some time (sometimes many hours) my router will crash (needs full restart/unplug). I put the Atrix on its own router so it does not affect the rest of my home network.
This happens with my Actiontec (FIOS), D-Link Dir655 and Linksys WRT54GP2 (super old but thats what the Atrix is currently on)
My DIR655 is running pretty old Firmware but I just dread redoing all my setup/config if I go to the latest 1.3x.
Does anyone here use the Atrix on a DIR655 N router without problems?
I turned Wifi sleep of on the phone etc, etc but still!
Pretty annoying but I can live with it. My first Atrix did exactly the same.
2. VOIP mic problems! Skype, sipdroid etc... Its supposedly a problem with the MOTO implementation of the AudioSource Object. Its very limited and does not allow commonly used settings. I read that you can also only use the back mic.
I wonder what MOTOs official statement on that is?
Its true and I told him that he was retarded for even trying that lol! Luckily he was able to change it! However he is still having issues with this atrix, he's waiting for the bell ota update to fix a bunch of bugs on 2.2
My 2 friend's haven't had any wifi problems though, perhaps its the router your on? Wifi has always worked on all they're atrix's that they had so far!
Issues:
1. The LED (one of them would flicker and then go off).
2. The voice quality on the phone. Everyone would tell me I sounded muffled.
3. I have a problem with network error on the Market app.
4. If I leave my finger relatively still on the screen for longer than 15 secs, the will stop responding for a few secs and go crazy. (This happens with all units. It's a "feature" on the phone). Kind of makes it hard to play games.
5. I can't lay down the phone on any surface that is not flat, as the LCD will not work (ie. bed)
6. I get randomly disconnected from the AT&T network.
7. I get a few reboots per week. Sometimes in the middle of a call.
That's all. Besides those things, the phone...is still horrible.
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Does anyone here use the Atrix on a DIR655 N router without problems?
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I'm actually using a DIR655 and I don't have any problems. Then again, I'm using firmware 1.33NA. That's bizarre though, I've never heard of a device crashing the router. I'd recommend that you bite the bullet and upgrade your firmware. You do know that you can save your current configuration, right? It's under:
Tools > System > Save to local harddrive
Love this phone so far. Luckily I haven't noticed any of the mentioned problems. Except 1, with VOIP, it doesn't seem to be working properly. Yesterday I tried Skype, tried speakerphone, tried headset, tried BT, nothing worked, I can hear the caller, but they can't hear me at all. Now today I tried again, I can still hear them, and there is a weird progress, they can hear me, not with BT, but with headset and speaker both, but my voice as they say was very broken, noisy, too much disturbance etc...
Besides this issue, (M)Atrix rocks!!!
Atrix just wont connect to mobile data, it will tease you with showing you there is an H+ connection available, but it wont let you axx it..
And it worked fine for one day x.x
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Issues:
1. The LED (one of them would flicker and then go off).
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no issue here on that...not sure what to suggest :/
2. The voice quality on the phone. Everyone would tell me I sounded muffled.
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hmm...I remember reading that people that had this issue, when they lowered the noise cancelation feature, they didn't sound muffle anymore. Maybe you can try this out? I don't have this issue, so not sure if that will help.
3. I have a problem with network error on the Market app.
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Are you still getting this on WIFI? I know sometimes the Market acts up on its own, though I haven't heard of it happening recently.
4. If I leave my finger relatively still on the screen for longer than 15 secs, the will stop responding for a few secs and go crazy. (This happens with all units. It's a "feature" on the phone). Kind of makes it hard to play games.
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hmm...got to try this to see if I have this issue.
5. I can't lay down the phone on any surface that is not flat, as the LCD will not work (ie. bed)
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I've noticed the opposite accutally...if the phone is ON a flat surface, it doesn't respond properly. Like multiple times I am required to click on an icon shortcut on the homescreen.
7. I get a few reboots per week. Sometimes in the middle of a call.
That's all. Besides those things, the phone...is still horrible.
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I think you should exchange it for a different phone :/ I know the reboot issue is fixed with the 1.5.something update for AT&T.
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Atrix just wont connect to mobile data, it will tease you with showing you there is an H+ connection available, but it wont let you axx it..
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Have you forced trottle your network to only be 3G? Are you in a known weak 3G area when that happens?