I know the phone won't be out until the 23rd (despite heavy argument from a certain bunch that still think the 17th is the release date for verizon based on what "their reps told them"). Looks like the S5 and the Note 3 on the latest builds have no root and require flashing an older kernel to root the phone. Seems like that trend is going to carry over to the Note 4 with the exception of us not having an older kernel to flash and root. So any talks within the community about a bounty or new root method being developed? Let's get the chatter going early so we don't have to wait 3-6 months after release date like the Note 3. I'm going to miss my record button during phone calls =(
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I know the phone won't be out until the 23rd (despite heavy argument from a certain bunch that still think the 17th is the release date for verizon based on what "their reps told them"). Looks like the S5 and the Note 3 on the latest builds have no root and require flashing an older kernel to root the phone. Seems like that trend is going to carry over to the Note 4 with the exception of us not having an older kernel to flash and root. So any talks within the community about a bounty or new root method being developed? Let's get the chatter going early so we don't have to wait 3-6 months after release date like the Note 3. I'm going to miss my record button during phone calls =(
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I have 3 S5's and 2 Note 3's all on the latest build.
They are all rooted.
Thats good new. Can you still run free hotspot?
god, i'm going to so need root. between ad away and being able to uses mobile hotspot and titanium backup, ugh. I can't imagine an ad filled phone. lol
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I will smash this phone into the ground if it doesn't get root.
Tmobile Note 4 has root currently. Unfortunately it trips the Knox counter in the process.
Adaway is a must, I used my wifes phone and has no idea how many ads there actually where
I am treating the delay as a positive, since if root is not available for US models, I will not get the N4. Need root to allow external storage writes and do NOT trust Google that they will leave the function enabled in Lollipop. Not the slightest.
If no root, will stay with the S4 32GB a while longer, but still a fine device that is rooted and I do have card writes enabled.
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Thats good new. Can you still run free hotspot?
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Dont know, I added the $10 hotspot to my account.
Im on an enterprise account so the features and rates are a bit different.
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Thats good new. Can you still run free hotspot?
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No offense since just asking. Why is it good news for devices not the N4 being rooted since this thread would inherently be for the N4?
The S4, S5 and N3 all are easy to root, but other than a trend, does not mean much for the N4 (besides not a negative trend)
Forgot about needing adaway. Another reason to have root!
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No offense since just asking. Why is it good news for devices not the N4 being rooted since this thread would inherently be for the N4?
The S4, S5 and N3 all are easy to root, but other than a trend, does not mean much for the N4 (besides not a negative trend)
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Because we assume that the S5 and N4 are going to be very similar on the software side. If the S5 has root there is a very good possibility that the N4 will also get root. Not guaranteed but good chance.
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No offense since just asking. Why is it good news for devices not the N4 being rooted since this thread would inherently be for the N4?
The S4, S5 and N3 all are easy to root, but other than a trend, does not mean much for the N4 (besides not a negative trend)
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The S4, S5, and N3 are not easy to root.
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Because we assume that the S5 and N4 are going to be very similar on the software side. If the S5 has root there is a very good possibility that the N4 will also get root. Not guaranteed but good chance.
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Eventually maybe. It's important to keep in mind that the note 4 uses a 3.10 Linux kernel while all previous phones (s4, s5, n3) used 3.4 Linux kernel. Meaning if a new exploit for S5 is found it doesn't mean it would work for the Note 4 while it's likely to work on s4, and note 3.
looks like the tmobile note 4 already has root. I hope that same method works for verizon
How did they root the TM? I am curious if Towel Root will root the Note4 since it roots so many different phones including the Note3.
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How did they root the TM? I am curious if Towel Root will root the Note4 since it roots so many different phones including the Note3.
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Towel root won't root the note 4 it hasn't had a update since June it's no longer supported and has been patch with newer kernels. As for t-mobile it was root by Chainfire who is very popular for finding root methods for us.
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Towel root won't root the note 4 it hasn't had a update since June it's no longer supported and has been patch with newer kernels. As for t-mobile it was root by Chainfire who is very popular for finding root methods for us.
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He'll probably do it for the VZW as well. I can live with just root and since Hashcode quit Safestrap I'm sure root will be all it will get.
I don't mind TW.
Might be time to look at the Nexus again.
Sure no one knows at this point, but would it be best to ignore any updates that come out (I know I am glad I did not take any with my note 2 as I was lucky to get my phone unlocked with the release version). Another question I have is once its rooted how hard is it to keep root after updates?
Wyatt W
Chainfire unlocking VZW Note 4
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He'll probably do it for the VZW as well. I can live with just root and since Hashcode quit Safestrap I'm sure root will be all it will get.
I don't mind TW.
Might be time to look at the Nexus again.
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He says in his post he won't -- the VZW locked Bootloader makes the phone brick when rooted. No one has ever gotten past the bootloader for the Note 3 yet! Hopefully a Developer version lurks...
There is an OTA already. I wonder if it will make rooting harder. Does anyone know if chainfire has started to try to root our N4?
Sure hope that is not the case, because I don't see me giving up my note 2 until this one is root-able. I am actually seriously considering cancelling my pre-order (which is full price to keep my UDP) and all my accessories that have yet to ship. Basically everything that I really care to do with my phone is somewhere tied into me being able to use xposed modules, wireless tether, etc...
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So as the interwebz suggest, 4.4.1 is right around the corner for the Nexus 5/GPE devices. Considering the fact that the VZW variant of the Moto X was on the bleeding edge of the Kit Kat OTA and got it before even the Nexus 4, do you think this is a trend that will continue? I'm interested to see what bug fixes there are and if the promised camera improvements will be aimed specifically at the Nexus 5, or perhaps broader improvements to the software. What do you guys think?
I don't think 4.4.1 will aim other devices. It will include fixes for Nexus 5 only IMO.
I'm worried about the next update. What if we can't get root?
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I'm worried about the next update. What if we can't get root?
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Then you buy a developer's edition.
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I'm worried about the next update. What if we can't get root?
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This is one big reason I went for the Dev Edition... I'm too much of a tinkerer to fret over such unknowns. I mean it always comes eventually, but with Dev Editions you get instant gratification! Just need to flash stock recovery, accept the OTA, reflash custom recovery, re-root. BAM, done.
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I'm worried about the next update. What if we can't get root?
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I've been using an Android phone since 2.1.
By my quick count on Wikipedia, there have been 27 versions (including minor updates) of Android since 2.1.
I'm not aware of any Android version that was discovered to be unrootable.
I suspect you don't have to be too worried...
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Then you buy a developer's edition.
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Buy me one? I don't have that kind of money.
Furthermore, I have a Motomaker custom. I don't want to lose that.
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This one reason I went for the Dev Edition... I'm too much of a tinkerer to fret over such unknowns. I mean it always comes eventually, but with Dev Editions you get instant gratification!
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I beat you by about 5 sec. But really, that's what this game has come to. If you want easy root and possibly romming, then dev editions are going to be the only way to go. Right now, I think moto is making that easier for us to do.
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I've been using an Android phone since 2.1.
By my quick count on Wikipedia, there have been 27 versions (including minor updates) of Android since 2.1.
I'm not aware of any Android version that was discovered to be unrootable.
I suspect you don't have to be too worried...
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I suspect you need to do more reading. Check up on what security features KitKat brought to our MotoXs.
Edit: I'm not so much worried about If you can root it, I'm worried about having it published. Jcase only rooted 4.4 because we were able to downgrade the bootloader. If that wasn't possible, I still don't think there would be root for the MotoX (non-dev).
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Buy me one? I don't have that kind of money.
Furthermore, I have a Motomaker custom. I don't want to lose that.
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You simply sell your subsidized phone and buy a dev edition. Can't help you about the moto maker though.
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I suspect you need to do more reading. Check up on what security features KitKat brought to our MotoXs.
Edit: I'm not so much worried about If you can root it, I'm worried about having it published. Jcase only rooted 4.4 because we were able to downgrade the bootloader. If that wasn't possible, I still don't think there would be root for the MotoX (non-dev).
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I suspect I've read plenty about KitKat. I know about the security features.
Jcase rooted 4.4 using the downgrade because an existing vulnerability was available. He explicitly stated that there was another vulnerability available and he just wasn't going to develop for it/reveal it. Vulnerabilities are always discovered.
What, you think Apple hasn't been trying to quash rooting for years now?
I'm just saying, I've been in IT for a long time. Exploits are discovered, workarounds are created. Root access is gained and life moves on.
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I suspect I've read plenty about KitKat. I know about the security features.
Jcase rooted 4.4 using the downgrade because an existing vulnerability was available. He explicitly stated that there was another vulnerability available and he just wasn't going to develop for it/reveal it. Vulnerabilities are always discovered.
What, you think Apple hasn't been trying to quash rooting for years now?
I'm just saying, I've been in IT for a long time. Exploits are discovered, workarounds are created. Root access is gained and life moves on.
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Of course, but what if it's never published? I'm not worried about the actual exploits. There will always be exploits. I'm only concerned with an awesome dev to publish it. Who else is working on the MotoX? So far, it seems like Hashcode and Jcase. If Jcase decides not to publish... Then what?
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Of course, but what if it's never published? I'm not worried about the actual exploits. There will always be exploits. I'm only concerned with an awesome dev to publish it. Who else is working on the MotoX? So far, it seems like Hashcode and Jcase. If Jcase decides not to publish... Then what?
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Well, there are never guarantees, of course... but given that virtually every version of Android on every phone attains root eventually, I'm just going to have some faith!
I think people may be putting too much faith in what devs can do based on what has been done.
4.4 has the potential to change things big time. dm-verity combined with a locked bootloader is going to be a beast to crack. Once a device ships from the factory with it enabled and a locked bootloader, I would not be expecting root on it anytime soon. Then you will have people asking why don't we just crack the key like they were when the GS3 came out. (answer: you will never ever crack the key. --Math)
As for using the idea that Apple has tried and never got it to stick, I'd say they haven't tried this hard.
Just as a sidenote, I don't think the SELinux and dm-verity additions in android are either bad or targeted at the modders out there. These are excellent steps in securing the OS, and shows that Google is serious about making devices trustworthy. The work they did on dm-verity is just great stuff. This is good for people who don't care about modifying their device and those who only buy devices with unlocked bootloaders, but not so good for people who have a locked bootloader, and are on either ATT or VZW, both of whom really don't want you to modify your device.
TL;DR - Buy a device with an unlocked bootloader, don't count on anything, past success is not indicative of future success.
I hope 4.4.1 brings an even better ART this time.
Seems like this update is pretty specific to the Nexus 5 as a camera fix. Not sure the Moto X will even see it.
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Seems like this update is pretty specific to the Nexus 5 as a camera fix. Not sure the Moto X will even see it.
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Won't really know until the 4.4.1 source is published. Could be a lot of other stuff on the back-end that was updated/fixed that wouldn't really show up in a major changelog.
Nexus 4 received the update today too so it isn't nexus 5 specific.
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Won't really know until the 4.4.1 source is published. Could be a lot of other stuff on the back-end that was updated/fixed that wouldn't really show up in a major changelog.
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Very true
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Not only the N4 but the Nexus 7 LTE. SO... probably more going on than just camera
I got my VN3 a month or so back and decided to wait on rooting until KitKat was released, allegedly in march. I got tired of waiting and went ahead and rooted, using Kingo 1.1.5.xx (MJE).
I imagine that KitKat is still forthcoming for this phone(?). I've installed a few root apps (Titanium, Mobile Odin, etc.).
Questions:
1. If and when KK is available for the VN3, will I need to unroot the phone?
2. What method should I use...Kingo, Odin?
3. Should I take it easy on how many root apps I install until I know if I'll need to unroot?
4. Will it be worthwhile (or even viable) to install KK, or will most rooted users stay with 4.3?
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i wouldn't worry about that. Our Note 3s will be old news by the time verizon gets around to kitkat. They are bust pushing the new Galaxy S5 right now. But don't despair...Kitkat isn't an exciting leap into the future. I had an AOSP (or AOKP?) on my LG G2, and in the state it was in, I ended up going back to, and being deliriously happy, with 4.3. After running 4.4 with all its issues, when I went back to 4.3 there wasn't a single 4.4 feature I missed.
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i wouldn't worry about that. Our Note 3s will be old news by the time verizon gets around to kitkat. They are bust pushing the new Galaxy S5 right now. But don't despair...Kitkat isn't an exciting leap into the future. I had an AOSP (or AOKP?) on my LG G2, and in the state it was in, I ended up going back to, and being deliriously happy, with 4.3. After running 4.4 with all its issues, when I went back to 4.3 there wasn't a single 4.4 feature I missed.
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Sorry I somehow missed this. I have to agree. I actually kept GB 2.3 (build EL26 & 29) on my S2. Bumping it up a time or two for various updates, but always Odin'ed back to EL.
The fact that Vzw was alleged to release it in March prompted me to wait and see if I wanted it. But I'm rooted now and will be fine where I'm at. Absolutely fine, in fact.
One irritation with my S2, however, was that I kept having to deal with the update nag.
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But don't despair...Kitkat isn't an exciting leap into the future. I had an AOSP (or AOKP?) on my LG G2, and in the state it was in, I ended up going b3ack to, and being deliriously happy, with 4.3. After running 4.4 with all its issues, when I went back to 4.3 there wasn't a single 4.4 feature I missed.
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Unless your like a lot of people with multiple modern samsung devices that enjoy not having many cool features until kit kat. My Verizon N3 can't get kit kat soon enough. My gear fit and tab pro are being held back on functionalities waiting for my Note!
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Kitkat don't have any attractive feature. 4.3 is better then KK for N3. Kindly note that 4.3 built in software is better then KK.
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Having had a Moto X that was destroyed by 4.4 (I left it for the Note 3 before it took Verizon years to get it 4.4.2) and a Nexus 7 that got 4.4, and quickly 4.4.2 after that ----- I can live with 4.3. I agree with the comments that there really isn't anything must have about 4.4. On my Moto X - 4.4 destroyed battery life. My Nexus 7 2013 got much better battery life with 4.3 than it gets with 4.4.2 with greenify.
And yes, I got all caught up in the 4.4 KitKat hype, bought the bars, and believed every word of the "redesigned, less footprint, more battery life" hype that never came true. lol.
Edit: To answer OP's question: The only way I'm considering 4.4 on my Note 3 is if one of the Rom devs here offer it - more specifically CleanRom. Otherwise, happily running 4.3 till I can afford the Note 4. lol.
i didnt care at all UNTIL i got a Tab Pro and Gear Fit that were designed to work with Kit Kat. i have ran into many things that requires Kit Kat on my N3 like the latest S Health for Fit to work fully or Sync 3.0 for sharing files from N3. there were a few more as well.
so to call it useless depends on what you may need it for as i could really use it now.
As Fletch33 states, some people have a need for KitKat. As for me, having stayed with GB for so long, JB 4.3 is quite the upgrade (as is the N3). JB on my S2 just didn't cut it. I can live without KK as long as I have to, but really, it's all academic at this point, since Verizon has passed their timeline of 'sometime in March'. And from what I'm hearing, it may take quite some time to see it happen.
That being the case (and with the seemingly prevailing opinion re:KitKat), I'll just go ahead and setup my now rooted VN3 as I need it to be and reject the KK update offers.
I havent seen a vzw note 3 kitkat yet. Even the devs seem to be waiting for big red. Root and safestrap are great but a locked bootloader has us hamstrung WRT kit-kat.
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I havent seen a vzw note 3 kitkat yet. Even the devs seem to be waiting for big red. Root and safestrap are great but a locked bootloader has us hamstrung WRT kit-kat.
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Which is another valid reason to stay put...
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i didnt care at all UNTIL i got a Tab Pro and Gear Fit that were designed to work with Kit Kat. i have ran into many things that requires Kit Kat on my N3 like the latest S Health for Fit to work fully or Sync 3.0 for sharing files from N3. there were a few more as well.
so to call it useless depends on what you may need it for as i could really use it now.
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not sure about the others but fitness for gear works great and essentially replacing s-health totally at some point. the apps are almost identical when you open them. I work for Samsung.
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not sure about the others but fitness for gear works great and essentially replacing s-health totally at some point. the apps are almost identical when you open them. I work for Samsung.
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You happen to know if Verizon even has a KitKat build they are testing for the Note 3? I just want it for certain apps that require 4.4, plus it's nice to have a OS with the latest API levels.
A coworker of mine is testing it on vzw but there have been issues with, you guessed it, signal strength, so this is why we haven't seen an update yet. Shouldn't be too long as she told me that is the only issue being reported
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i had the galaxy nexus on vzw before the note 3 and they skipped an update and on the next version release vzw would update the nexus. i'm hoping the note 3 is the same. at this point i'd rather wait for the next release and skip kitkat.
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i had the galaxy nexus on vzw before the note 3 and they skipped an update and on the next version release vzw would update the nexus. i'm hoping the note 3 is the same. at this point i'd rather wait for the next release and skip kitkat.
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Or even 4.4.3 would be worth the wait. Pretty sick of Verizon though, I'm about to puke.
I just upgraded my ailing SIII to the Verizon Note 3 through Amazon. I was well aware of the unrootability of 4.4.4 on Verizon and risked it. I was hoping it would arrive and try to do an immediate update to 4.4.4. Wouldn't you know it, the damn thing came with 4.4.4 preloaded! So now I'm stuck unrooted, like many others. I've never lived unrooted before. I feel like a chain is wrapped around my phones ankle. So..... how to live unrooted? I'm curious of what apps users are using on a unrooted Note 3 to squeeze as much tweaking as possible out of their devices.
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I just upgraded my ailing SIII to the Verizon Note 3 through Amazon. I was well aware of the unrootability of 4.4.4 on Verizon and risked it. I was hoping it would arrive and try to do an immediate update to 4.4.4. Wouldn't you know it, the damn thing came with 4.4.4 preloaded! So now I'm stuck unrooted, like many others. I've never lived unrooted before. I feel like a chain is wrapped around my phones ankle. So..... how to live unrooted? I'm curious of what apps users are using on a unrooted Note 3 to squeeze as much tweaking as possible out of their devices.
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I would say I feel your pain but I have never owned an android phone that I didn't root. I'm using the Note 3 due to the Note 4 root issues and who knows what the Note 5 brick wall will be like. I need unlimited data tethering which is my number 1 reason for root.
Past that I guess using custom home screens are what you will have to play with...
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I would say I feel your pain but I have never owned an android phone that I didn't root. I'm using the Note 3 due to the Note 4 root issues and who knows what the Note 5 brick wall will be like. I need unlimited data tethering which is my number 1 reason for root.
Past that I guess using custom home screens are what you will have to play with...
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Other than my Amazon Fire TV Stick, this is the first phone I've not been able to root. I haven't been a huge rom switcher the last year or so, but there are just too many apps that require root I didn't think did. I'm good with NOVA as my launcher, and the rest of the interface is decent. It's the battery and speed tweaks I'm after. Oh well. Perhaps someday it will get root.
You may want to sell it and get another Note 3 that actually has root.
You could get a Note Edge Developer Edition or a Nexus 6.
Note 4 Developer Edition is out of stock, but you could keep checking to see id Samsung gets any.
Or keep following the AT&T and Verizon root threads for Note 4, it may get root.
Note 3 may not get root.
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You may want to sell it and get another Note 3 that actually has root.
You could get a Note Edge Developer Edition or a Nexus 6.
Note 4 Developer Edition is out of stock, but you could keep checking to see id Samsung gets any.
Or keep following the AT&T and Verizon root threads for Note 4, it may get root.
Note 3 may not get root.
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It's not imperative enough for me to sell it and try to get something else if i can't root it. Just an annoyance.
Some recent news about Nougat has me a bit concerned about the future of root.
http://phandroid.com/2016/07/20/android-7-0-nougat-boot-corrupt/amp/
Basically from what I am gathering is that without an unlocked bootloader root will be impossible on the newest Android version.
Thought we could start a discussion about this and see if we can gather any information about Android N security updates.
It's not looking good. In fact if you plan on rooting a device going forward you should block updates now. Nougat will effectively be the end of root for all non nexus devices and in the future maybe even Nexus devices will have no root. XDA is going to become a lonely dark corner of the Internet.
http://thehackernews.com/2016/07/android-verified-boot.html?m=1
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It's not looking good. In fact if you plan on rooting a device going forward you should block updates now. Nougat will effectively be the end of root for all non nexus devices and in the future maybe even Nexus devices will have no root. XDA is going to become a lonely dark corner of the Internet.
http://thehackernews.com/2016/07/android-verified-boot.html?m=1
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This looks like they’re talking about dm-verity which we already have on our phones so it won’t affect us as long as the ENG boot works on Nougat. But I don’t think it will work or that another engineering boot will be leaked for Android N. This might indeed be the end of the road for root on US Galaxy S7(E).
The article here on XDA didn't say it would be impossible, it just said that it would require more work. Depending on when Nougat comes out, the majority of us may already be on other phones and it may not be a concern for the S7. There will always be vulnerabilities, it just takes looking and some trial and error.
I only have the S7 edge for the battery capacity and Samsung Pay. How long will Samsung be the only company with MST built in? Doubtful they'll be the only ones for the remainder of smartphone existence. A lot of us may move on to other companies based on that last statement alone.
Don't let a tougher challenge bring your hopes down. Nobody thought the S5 would get a bootloader unlock method, and it did a few months ago for Verizon. Nobody thought root would be achieved so quick for the S7 (all variants at that), but it did.
Just something to keep in mind.
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Here's the link to the article here on XDA:
http://www.xda-developers.com/stric...r-correction-to-come-with-android-7-0-nougat/
It says that "For such devices, where the bootloader will be unlocked, these new changes should not be any more of a hindrance than what it is now." So unlocked devices with unlocked bootloaders would stay rootable. The s7 was already strictly enforcing dm-verity, an engineering kernel was leaked that disabled it.
How long will Samsung be the only company with MST built in?
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Well since Samsung bought LoopPay (sources say for 250mil) and has all of the IP for it I would say they will be the only ones with MST. That is until something similar yet better is invented.
Sorry about making a thread I just need quick ask something. I wasn't really looking for a new phone but I jumped on the Pixel deal for $10 a month from best buy. The fact that I can unlock the bootloader got me excited cause there's a lot of development for it.
I haven't received it yet but part of me wonders if I should go with the s7 instead. I like the build better I feel it's mor e durable and it's also waterproof/resistant which the Pixel is not.. I've never really gotten my S5 wet but it's scaring me..
So if I get an s7 and it has whatever the latest build is.. is it rootable as of now?? I'm guessing the bootloader is locked like ever other Verizon phone?? By the time the s5 bootloader was unlocked there weren't many devs left.
Thanks!!
Anyoneee
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If you get one now it'll have marshmallow on it and will be rootable using the engboot method. If you do so be sure to install the fixes and mods available here on xda. I would rather have a pixel personally.
Root method not really good. Bootloader is locked. Not worth rooting on this phone in my opinion. I had a lot of issues even after tweaking and following some guides. This was before the 2 roms were released though i haven't tried those out.
I'm on stock nougat beta also and i love it.
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Sorry about making a thread I just need quick ask something. I wasn't really looking for a new phone but I jumped on the Pixel deal for $10 a month from best buy. The fact that I can unlock the bootloader got me excited cause there's a lot of development for it.
I haven't received it yet but part of me wonders if I should go with the s7 instead. I like the build better I feel it's mor e durable and it's also waterproof/resistant which the Pixel is not.. I've never really gotten my S5 wet but it's scaring me..
So if I get an s7 and it has whatever the latest build is.. is it rootable as of now?? I'm guessing the bootloader is locked like ever other Verizon phone?? By the time the s5 bootloader was unlocked there weren't many devs left.
Thanks!!
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I love my S7. I've rooted and unrooted. Currently I've updated it to Nougat with the Update.zip. It's running beautifully!
But I got a Pixel for my wife, and I would trade mine for hers any day of the week.
I've never gotten a phone wet, so that wouldn't be a concern for me.
I had an S7 before getting my Pixel and unfortunately for me I NEED root. The S7 root method is FAR from perfect and it just affects the phones performance and battery life too much so I went with the Pixel instead where I can have root and an unlocked bootloader. The S7 by itself is a great phone, and if I didn't need root I would have kept it but if you are like me and want/need root then I'd keep the Pixel.