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It's beyond reason the lengths that Samsung goes to not support their current and prospective customers.
About 2 months ago I started my quest for a 64Gb or 32Gb version of the 7.7
Contacting the Portuguese Samsung Customer Support line, I was greeted by a Brazilian-Portuguese speaking operator (...you most probably don't know this but Brazilian Portuguese is not quite the same as the original language and, as such, the use of different expressions and pronunciation can turn any technical support exchange into a very irritating exercise...).
The lady was a-b-s-o-l-u-t-l-y clueless about what was being asked, so the inquiry terminated in frustration.
Since we are such a small market, I investigated a little and managed to circumvent the "official" (non)support network by obtaining the direct phone number to Samsung Portugal.
I've managed to talk to someone in charge over there and, luckily, things are on the right track now, as far as information for the Portuguese market is concerned...but only because I have "inside access".
...but, being that I travel a lot across Europe and have several days frequent stays in the Netherlands, I decided to contact Samsung Holland about the availability for the said models over there. I figured I might grab hold of one of the larger capacity models, while in Amsterdam.
Trying to get back to the Support phone line (Dutch version) proved impossible, as it features a 0900 number that is unreachable from outside Holland, so I resorted to an email inquiry.
Check out this "non-reply" I just received and tell me if Samsung is not testing their customers patience:
Hi,
I travel frequently to the Netherlands.
When will the 32 and 64Gb versions of the GT-P6800 be available and where can I find them in the Amsterdam area?
Thank you,
Client number: xxxxxxxx
Dear Mr. xxxxxx,
Thank you for your e-mail concerning the Samsung GT-P6800.
Samsung offers its customers an extensive dealer and distribution network throughout the Netherlands. An authorized Samsung dealer (and / or distributor) may specialize in a particular type of product. They also have a difference between stocks and groups of products from Samsung.
It is also possible that a "subtype" of an article is not displayed on our website because it is in limited edition and sold by one or more parties exclusively with different product specifications.
These are the reasons we can't give an exact price, inventory and comparative technical information to determine, in relation to deliverability for the product mentioned. We therefore advise you to inquire at a Samsung dealer, distributor and / or retailer in your area (available via internet, telephone directories, information services).
For further question, you can always contact us on the telephone number 0900-SAMSUNG(0900-7267864) for Holland or 022012418 for Belgium, on workdays from 09.00 -18.00 o'clock.
For a quick and efficient treatment of your problems, we advise you to have the following data by hand: Your Customer number, your IMEI-number and the type of your mobile phone.
We hope to have informed you sufficiently.
Yours sincerely,
XXXXXX
Contact Centre Employee
Wow!
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Lots of words that answer nothing. I suspect you were sent a form reply that the service tech thinks most closely matches your request.
Sorry, but I think you're being a drama queen. You asked the wrong department about finding a retail location for a product that isn't available in all areas yet and you met with some language issues.
Not really useful for a post here at all.
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Sorry, but I think you're being a drama queen.
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For a senior member, you're quick on the name calling. Since I am a junior one, I hope this is not the norm around here...
burhanistan said:
You asked the wrong department
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Wrong department?...really...?...The one and only Samsung Support line/email?
Do you suggest I go and circumvent all the Samsung European Support lines (...as I have successful done in my own country...) in an effort to have a clear reply from each country I might consider?
Since I've met with clueless support that even didn't knew the models had been announced when I contacted the "Portuguese" support number and now have been served this answer after contacting the Dutch support line what exactly do you recommend?...Drive to Samsung Europe HQ in Chertsey, Surrey, UK and put the question in person?
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Not really useful for a post here at all.
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I disagree.
Together with my previous experiences with Samsung (...the same kind of thing happened exactly the same way when I tried to procure an BR/HD-DVD player, the BD-UP5000 a few years ago...), this points out to a kind of "unsupport" people should be aware of.
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Heh "Senior Member" just means 100 posts. It's a pointless rank.
Some questions do not have solid answer.
And they can not just said "We dont know" do they?
Even they are Samsung, it doesnt mean they know everything about their own market plan; the HQ may not come up with the release date or release area yet so they really have no info to answer. And again they cant answer "We dont know".
In the end you get a lengthy reply with equal meaning to "We dont know".
I think the technical support provided by Samsung on their Official Site and via telephone and other specialist sites such as their firmware site is normal for a large manufacturer but not outstanding.
The release information of new models such as the 32GB/64GB is probably only known to a few people within the higher echelons of Samsung who will release it when they are ready and that is no different from other manufacturers. However, as someone who is impatient to get ICS I understand how you feel.
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Some questions do not have solid answer.
And they can not just said "We dont know" do they?
Even they are Samsung, it doesnt mean they know everything about their own market plan; the HQ may not come up with the release date or release area yet so they really have no info to answer. And again they cant answer "We dont know".
In the end you get a lengthy reply with equal meaning to "We dont know".
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Fair enough...at least we know how unorganized they stand.
Since day 1, with the GT-P1000, I can't shake this feeling that Samsung has kind of a "Tsunami" approach to this tablets things...They keep pouring and pouring models out, in "fuzzy" all-out-all-in" approach that even they can't keep pace and track of.
How difficult can it be to announce a model, it's various incarnations and, come the "D" day, have them all in the stores for the customers to choose from?
Apple does it, so...
...as far as the support regarding information about their product goes, in my continuous experience, they better get their act together or they will fail miserably short of the top Android tabs global player they're aiming to be.
With Apple in mind and adopting a oriental tone about Samsung, if I may: "No mater how much he may which so, a cat does not become a tiger just because he thinks he can roar".
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Even App** will have hard time keeping track of the products if they have so much models and model variations like Sammy.
At the moment App** do not(or can not) release their products at the same time in many countries, and "not at the same time" means many months delay with no solid release date too. There is no official "The New iPad" here yet in Thailand and also many other countries.
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Even App** will have hard time keeping track of the products if they have so much models and model variations like Sammy.
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Precisely!
GOF007 said:
At the moment App** do not(or can not) release their products at the same time in many countries, and "not at the same time" means many months delay with no solid release date too. There is no official "The New iPad" here yet in Thailand and also many other countries.
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Don't even go there...there's no comparison.
Apple announced the 3rd generation iPad March 7th, 2012. They announced 6 models x 2 colors.
On the 16th of March it was released in the US. All 6 models, in two colors.
Since then, it has steadily been released across the globe in 55 different counties (Thailand will added to the list soon, as I understand it)
All the announced 6 models. In the announced 2 colors.
We're talking a flawless launch at global scale in about 2 months.
If I decided right now to buy one, I would have it delivered at my door, from Apple Portugal within 5 working days. No inquiries. No endless searches. No clueless "support" operators.
Just one of the 6 models in one of the 2 colors I would have chosen from.
...All I am saying is that Samsung really goes the extra mile for us, their customers, to feel alienated.
If it wasn't for the obnoxious format, the inferior display (for photography) and the "gated", non-adaptive-fully-exclusive philosophy behind their products I know which "buy" button, I would be clicking right now...
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As cold as the reply you got from Samsung it seems to be, they are telling you the truth. 32GB and 64GB version of SGT 7.7 exists, but are not selling on global scale. I have been told they launched them in India, but beyond that I have little knowledge with. As it was not intended to be a global launch, a direct comparison with iPad is not quite appropriate.
For a heavy user like myself I think 16GB version is sufficient, though I wouldn't mind extra 48GB if it's available.
For a company that exists to sell things, they shouldn't make it so hard to buy their things. They should have a database of products and where to get them. Not, 'I don't know, you figure it out.'
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For a company that exists to sell things, they shouldn't make it so hard to buy their things. They should have a database of products and where to get them. Not, 'I don't know, you figure it out.'
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I don't know about Samsung, but some other vendors operating on international scale would actually discourage their staff from releasing products information like pricing and availability outside their own region. This is called regional market segmentation, its purpose is to maximize profit on their own region. (Yes, I know Apple is an exception, because they tend to sell at perpetual high price)
Say, they won't want to let customers in Hong Kong know that they could get a 64G version in India for half the price of 16G in Hong Kong. (Just an example, not for real )
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As cold as the reply you got from Samsung it seems to be, they are telling you the truth. 32GB and 64GB version of SGT 7.7 exists, but are not selling on global scale. I have been told they launched them in India, but beyond that I have little knowledge with. As it was not intended to be a global launch, a direct comparison with iPad is not quite appropriate.
For a heavy user like myself I think 16GB version is sufficient, though I wouldn't mind extra 48GB if it's available.
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Sorry, I don't think you've read the reply right.
To the question "When and where would this product be available in the Netherlands" they replied by, basically, sending me on a wild-goose chase around the country (mine?).
This is no way to treat anyone in any kind of relation, let alone for a manufacturer to treat its clients.
I buy a lot of electronics and photography related items and, I can assure you, this is not the norm.
Once contacted, the manufacturers usually check when and where the requested item is available, or where it will be or, if permanently not available, informs what the limitations are.
...In fact, this was the very same logical and respectful approach I got from Samsung Portugal, once I figured how to talk directly to them !
It's just this "Official Support" masquerade that they have put in place that behaves in this unsporting way.
XK
hi, I also wanted to buy it from Netherlands but got it the last minute somewhere else. But I did find that dixons.nl had good customer support and actally answered my emails, give it a try
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Sorry, I don't think you've read the reply right.
To the question "When and where would this product be available in the Netherlands" they replied by, basically, sending me on a wild-goose chase around the country (mine?).
This is no way to treat anyone in any kind of relation, let alone for a manufacturer to treat its clients.
I buy a lot of electronics and photography related items and, I can assure you, this is not the norm.
Once contacted, the manufacturers usually check when and where the requested item is available, or where it will be or, if permanently not available, informs what the limitations are.
...In fact, this was the very same logical and respectful approach I got from Samsung Portugal, once I figured how to talk directly to them !
It's just this "Official Support" masquerade that they have put in place that behaves in this unsporting way.
XK
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I actually side with you, but not in the obvious way that you could notice. I think I should make my stance on all these for you now.
The guilt in Samsung is too deep that there is no manageable way to right the wrong they have done to you. I was so furious when I came to the part where they gave you a Brazilian-Portuguese speaking support while all you were asking is a less Brazillian one. I would be pretty upset and frustrated if I were given a Putonghua Chinese speaking support while they they have full-knowledge of my Cantonese Chinese speaking habit. That is a-b-s-o-l-u-t-e-l-y o-u-t-r-a-g-e-o-u-s.
You deserve better, but damage is done. If I were you, I would not give them the privilege of abusing me any further, by refusing to use any of their product, A-N-Y-M-O-R-E! They will regret having losing a valuable customers like you very soon. Mark my words.
same thing for me around the time the tab plus was released. I called multiple samsung reps, chatted online scoured all the websites. For a few days I believed there would be no 3G version with voice.
Until someone on Xda sent me the link where he bought his in malaysia.
Since then I have absolutely given up on their support.
I had even said, I understand the 3G version will not likely come to US, as the first one didnt make it, and I can understand that, but is there anywhere in the world, I said; that "might" (hint) be selling these?
they're a bunch of parrots reading from their computers or manuals.
九千. said:
I actually side with you, but not in the obvious way that you could notice. I think I should make my stance on all these for you now.
The guilt in Samsung is too deep that there is no manageable way to right the wrong they have done to you. I was so furious when I came to the part where they gave you a Brazilian-Portuguese speaking support while all you were asking is a less Brazillian one. I would be pretty upset and frustrated if I were given a Putonghua Chinese speaking support while they they have full-knowledge of my Cantonese Chinese speaking habit. That is a-b-s-o-l-u-t-e-l-y o-u-t-r-a-g-e-o-u-s.
You deserve better, but damage is done. If I were you, I would not give them the privilege of abusing me any further, by refusing to use any of their product, A-N-Y-M-O-R-E! They will regret having losing a valuable customers like you very soon. Mark my words.
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Zzzzzttt...
(The sound a fly makes when, wondering aimlessly through the air, stumbles upon one of those bright blue contraptions.)
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zazonk said:
hi, I also wanted to buy it from Netherlands but got it the last minute somewhere else. But I did find that dixons.nl had good customer support and actally answered my emails, give it a try
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Hmmm...it seems they don't have it, like everyone else across Europe.
For a moment I had some hopes, as some Swiss and Austrian sites listed a 32Gb version, but it was also a hoax. All the ones I contacted said they had none and didn't know when they might have.
Dixon NL has a very nice price for the 16GB one, though...Maybe I cave in the next weeks, while over there and just get one of those.
Meanwhile, the announced new Toshiba featuring a SuperAMOLED display is just adding more options for my decision...
XK
Take it easy guys. If you don't like Samsung, vote with your wallet and buy an iPad. You'll get better support.
Since many ways to get the N4 here in India (or any country but US), I was wondering what people prefer...
So, there you go...a poll. This would help us see what ways people outside US are implementing to it..
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Since many ways to get the N4 here in India (or any country but US), I was wondering what people prefer...
So, there you go...a poll. This would help us see what ways people outside US are implementing to it..
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Seems like the prices here in India will be higher in India compared to US(Currently 23000/- for preorder in ebay for 8GB). LG announced that it will release Nexus 4 here also by the end of November. I want to wait until then, then we can take a better decision.:fingers-crossed:
i really can't wait this phone
where will you be in my country then???:crying:
Is here
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Is here
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Wi-Fi or 3G?
What is NEE?
its the 3G model the only other model that has got JB is the LTE model (8020)
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What is NEE?
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NEE is Sweden. It's the Nordic multi-CSC ROM we're already talking about in other threads.
Ah, damn. I don't know why I was thinking it was some kind of Samsung code word or something. Sorry, from a bad self-centered American! :X
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Ah, damn. I don't know why I was thinking it was some kind of Samsung code word or something. Sorry, from a bad self-centered American! :X
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I'm just hoping for someone to get a Wi-Fi update so the poor N8010/13 folks don't have to keep using kluged 3G ROMs.
hey even I am waiting for the update it is really strange why Samsung keeps doing this there is not much difference apart for changing the wireless services
I would have expected the 3G one to be harder to push updates through because it's through wireless services.. :/
No its the same you push it through Wifi or 3G there is no difference it connects to update server and downloads the data does
Someone care to post the build date. I know from the K that its newer then J9 firmware but its still nice to know.
05.11.2012
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nothing for my 8010 in Belgium yet :crying:
All the updates have been for 8000 no other model except for the LTE model has received an update.
Even 8000 not all countries have got the update
When is Samsung going to realize that no one living outside the USA is a real person?
Well I think the largest base of Note for Samsung is outside US so they very well know what they are doing
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When is Samsung going to realize that no one living outside the USA is a real person?
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You know - if I honestly thought you were being serious - I'd write a nice long explanation as to why a lot of companies just prefer to pretend the US doesn't exist.
For one thing: Americans tend to be 'trend' buyers. So they buy Apple products WAY out of proportion relative to the world. Macs, for example, are about 6.8% of the world market, but are over 15% of the US market. Stores like Best Buy carry Samsung (heck, they even have Samsung mini-stores in many outlets), but if you actually try to buy accessories for Samsung prods - you're screwed. Now, you want an iPhone case? No problem, two entire racks of those babies.
So, if you're Samsung - who do you invest in? The US, which is a large but almost antagonistic market - or *the rest of the world* who actually likes your products?
Meanwhile, up here in Canada, we get the worst of both worlds because we're too small a population, and too closely associated to the US.
Then again, the first Samsung permanent retail outlet in North America is here - in Vancouver - so I guess this is Samsung's way of saying 'Canada - we know you're not the US... " (Ok ok.. it's really because Samsung sells a much smaller range of products in Canada, so that makes us a good 'test case' to try out a retail store in NA)...
Personally, I'd rather have the ROM update.
Actually, is the same in Europe. You can get a lot of accessories for an icrap and close to nothing for most other brands. I guess the sellers have a bigger cut from the huge prices of apple products, and they are also counting on trends.
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So, they had the ZTE USA webinar talking about the release.
In no particular order (and I'm sure I missed some points since I'm going from memory):
they listened to the beta testers and community chatter and added the capacitive buttons back into the US base model
this change is what delayed the release slightly
gold model will be released first (July 27th) followed by the quartz grey (Aug 16th/17th -- BestBuy and webinar disagreed on date) -- no plans for the silver one in the US
pre-orders are available now at ZTE (their website and eBay), Amazon, Best Buy, Newegg, and B&H for $399
notification LED is present and RGB (he specifically remembered red and green being there)
they've heard the feedback on the bootloader unlocking and been in discussions with R&D about the best way to do it -- they said it's an "when" not an "if", but it won't be at launch because that would meant another delay
it will have Tap to Wake
they've been working on the imaging code constantly -- every update they've done has had changes for it
it is band compatible with Sprint and Verizon but will not work with them at launch -- if they can get it certified, it will probably only need an OTA to work with them
updates will be on a monthly schedule to line up with Google and to not over annoy users with frequent OTA updates (the only exception was for a critical security updates from Google)
they are planning the 6 GB/128 GB model to be released in the US at some point in the future, but they wouldn't commit to any time frame
they are working with Google on getting the phone DayDream certified
they are committed to an Android Nougat release as soon as possible but wouldn't comment on a date (he seemed to imply they were working with Google on this to get it out more quickly)
microSD slot was limited to 128 GB [although, I see no reason why it couldn't use higher than that, since most of the 32 GB limited ones work fine with larger capacity]
they will be posting the rest of the answers on the ZTE USA Community Forum over the next few days, including if the retail partners are included in the Passport 2.0 program [I'm not sure what distinction was being made here, since they had already said the full warranty would apply from any retailer]
Of course, this was from ZTE USA, so mention of the what the European model will get.
Only non-Axon related thing was asking about ZTE doing a Nexus with Google, and the gist of it was that even if they were planning something, he couldn't talk about it because Google likes to be secretive with the Nexus program.
Edit: Webinar posted now on Youtube -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyP4Wr8ApSo
Sounds like they are responding well to user input. Never really seen anything like it before.
I'm glad I pre-ordered today! With effort like this, I'm more than happy to show my support. (And it was nice hearing them say they'd love to make a Nexus.)
>it is band compatible with Sprint and Verizon but will not work with them at launch -- if they can get it certified, it will probably only need an OTA to work with them
I'm pressing ZTE to see if CDMA support (not specifically Verizon/Sprint support, since they aren't the only CDMA carriers) is at least turned on out of the box.
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>it is band compatible with Sprint and Verizon but will not work with them at launch -- if they can get it certified, it will probably only need an OTA to work with them
I'm pressing ZTE to see if CDMA support (not specifically Verizon/Sprint support, since they aren't the only CDMA carriers) is at least turned on out of the box.
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Having it disabled in the phone at launch will probably discourage people from trying something stupid before Verizon/Sprint "flip the switch" and is also probably to ensure that those companies look upon ZTE as favourably as possible and don't delay too long.
Who else provides CDMA over there? do those others have their own networks or do they rely on Verizon/Sprint towers, the latter would to my mind mean that they are still bound by the wishes of Verizon/Sprint.
Anyone have one of their elusive $50 discount codes for the Axon 7? I would like to preorder one, but the California tax is killing me.
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Having it disabled in the phone at launch will probably discourage people from trying something stupid before Verizon/Sprint "flip the switch" and is also probably to ensure that those companies look upon ZTE as favourably as possible and don't delay too long.
Who else provides CDMA over there? do those others have their own networks or do they rely on Verizon/Sprint towers, the latter would to my mind mean that they are still bound by the wishes of Verizon/Sprint.
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Curious, but what stupidity are they trying to discourage? The OP3 has CDMA enabled for Verizon, people are able to make calls/data fine, Verizon doesn't seem to care (I doubt they'll ever officially support it), and people don't seem to be breaking their phones to connect to Verizon (just pop in the SIM and go). The later part does make sense though.
Other CDMA carriers include US Cellular (5th biggest, right below Sprint), and smaller regional providers. They all run their own CDMA networks. A pretty comprehensive list is available on Wikipedia, look for the ones with Voice Technology CDMA2000, Data Technology EV-DO (and LTE): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_wireless_communications_service_providers
EDIT: I gave a listen to the Webinar that was posted on Youtube. It looks like the hardware is in place, but CDMA is disabled in the software for all carriers until Verizon/Sprint give support. Bummer.
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Sounds like they are responding well to user input. Never really seen anything like it before.
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Yeah, it's actually fairly unusual -- they actually changed the model design based on early feedback. It seems like they are really trying to grow the brand in the US, and want a popular flagship to go with it. Since they've only really made mid- to low-end phones before, makes sense they would want to keep people happy to build the buzz.
I wish they'd had a better answer on the bootloader, but as long as they follow through, that's fine. I'd rather have them listen and deliver it late and have it never happen.
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Anyone have one of their elusive $50 discount codes for the Axon 7? I would like to preorder one, but the California tax is killing me.
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I'm in NYC pre-ordered from newegg and paid no taxes. Total was $399.98
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I'm in NYC pre-ordered from newegg and paid no taxes. Total was $399.98
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Newegg is about 80 miles from me here in Cali so they would be an additional $36 just in local sales tax. I thought about BH in NYC, but they only list the gold - not my style.
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It seems like they are really trying to grow the brand in the US, and want a popular flagship to go with it.
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I think there was already quite a bit of negative feedback on the Chinese forums about the lack of capacitive buttons on the lesser model (if I was reading the badly translated stuff from Bing translator correctly) before things really got going outside China so it may be more of a general willingness to listen than trying to grow a specific market.
They've posted the webinar on Youtube now -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyP4Wr8ApSo
Quote:
"they've heard the feedback on the bootloader unlocking and been in discussions with R&D about the best way to do it -- they said it's an "when" not an "if", but it won't be at launch because that would meant another delay."
...do not forget...
It is not about "if" but about "when".
"Never" is also about "when".
About the 6gb+128GB version for going international.
I wonder how much will this cost and when it will come to market.
they listened to the beta testers and community chatter and added the capacitive buttons back into the US base model
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Well ****. Hopefully this is not the case for the European model. Otherwise all hope is pointed at the Nexus. But the Nexus won't have front firing speakers... However I rather have software buttons than front firing speakers.
While I'm not a huge fan of capacitive buttons for the most part, I'd prefer them to having on-screen buttons burned in due to the weaknesses of current OLED technology.
Gee it's great that they are listening to us and it's also great that the 128GB/6GB version will be released outside of China.
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Newegg is about 80 miles from me here in Cali so they would be an additional $36 just in local sales tax. I thought about BH in NYC, but they only list the gold - not my style.
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The Quartz Gray is available at B&H Photo. I was just there checking out gray phone.
Check this LINK out for verification.
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Newegg is about 80 miles from me here in Cali so they would be an additional $36 just in local sales tax. I thought about BH in NYC, but they only list the gold - not my style.
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The Quartz Gray is available at B&H. Go HERE
I'll wait for that "when" to happen regarding the bootloader before I order. My 1+3 will do me just fine until that happens.
I thought the Micro SD card slot was confirmed to be compatible with 200 GB MicroSD cards?
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I thought the Micro SD card slot was confirmed to be compatible with 200 GB MicroSD cards?
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Most likely is, just like how 64GB+ cards can work in phones that state that they only support up to 32GB if you format it correctly.
As most of you guys probably already know there are rumors around this phone's possibility of getting carrier support with T Mobile in the United States.
Because carrier support is kind of important in the US as most Americans buy their phones from their carrier, do you think that this is a major step for OnePlus and it will case it to be a more recognizable name in the US cell phone market... and not just some enthusiast brand?
Well, I'm just one person, but if it hits T-Mo, I'm buying it. That simple.
Same here, I'll be looking for it at my T-Mobile store!
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Same here, I'll be looking for it at my T-Mobile store!
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Same
No headphone jack, no notification LED, no sale. I use both all the time. It amazes me the cheap excuses these companies make to eliminate features. The truth is that they are just trying to make more money per sale. They must think we are all as stupid as they are!
I don't have TMobile but I'm buying unlocked.
Either way. But buying from one plus direct is better
Assuming the Pixel 3 doesn't make it to T-Mobile - this will be my next phone.
IPhone Xs/Xs Max preorders aren't very strong as per reports.
A huge chunk of users might like a far cheap Android alternative in the 6T.
Plain and simple. Having it released on T-Mobile only means those who can't afford to buy it out right from OnePlus could now put it on EIP..... So I kind of doubt there will be enough of those people to generate it as "a hit"
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I'm a tmo user and willl be purchasing it upon release!
You do have to remember this will be putting the phone in front of a bunch of people who never heard of OnePlus. This will open up the door for more customers that would not even know to go to OnePlus.com to buy the phone. ?* I dont know, I think it could help make the OnePlus6T much much more successful
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Plain and simple. Having it released on T-Mobile only means those who can't afford to buy it out right from OnePlus could now put it on EIP..... So I kind of doubt there will be enough of those people to generate it as "a hit"
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This is xda and no one is asking the important question; will the bootloader be unlocked? No amount of available from the carrier can overcome the lack of bootloader unlock. Another thing no one is skiing is available freqs, you're giving something up for that low freq (at least one, possibly two LTE bands) it isn't available in many areas and won't be for some time.
krabman said:
This is xda and no one is asking the important question; will the bootloader be unlocked? No amount of available from the carrier can overcome the lack of bootloader unlock. Another thing no one is skiing is available freqs, you're giving something up for that low freq (at least one, possibly two LTE bands) it isn't available in many areas and won't be for some time.
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I don't believe OnePlus will tie down the bootloader. I think it will be easily unlocked through fastboot per usial. I believe OP knows it's fan base is comprised of hardcore Android users who like to tinker and flash custom firmware and mods. Frequencies I can't chime in on as I'm not knowledgeable enough about them
The situation just the opposite, Tmo decides and oneplus will gladly provide the locked bootloader phones if they ask.
This will be a major jump for OnePlus. I for one have been looking for something unique and when I found OnePlus; I became very interested in their product. For what the Iphone X cost; you could get similar features with the OnePlus for just half the cost. OnePlus 6T will definitely turn heads in the United States. Striking a deal with T-Mobile will also open up the doors for other smart phone manufactures. If sales are good; which they will be; one could only assume that one of Oppo's other companies would want to strike a deal with a U.S. carrier.
The 6T is definitely on my radar to replace my beloved Nexus 6.
But unlocked bootloader is a must. I've walked away from upgrades to other phones due locked bootloaders.
And I am really interested to hear what the difference is between a TMo-"optimized" OnePlus6, and one bought directly from OnePlus. Exactly what optimizations are there?
So I won't be an early adopter. I'll be a fast follower once others report back.
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NGOwner, that's a good question. TMo-"optimized" I assume would mean that it will have a much better chemistry with our LTE bands.
As for the success of the phone; it will also depend on the area that your in. In some areas the phone will have high sales as compared to others, that won't. It all depends how good T-Mobile's floor staff are. In some areas people don't do as much research on these smart devices as others. New York City and and various places in California will probably have the highest turnouts for sales for the OnePlus 6T. I can tell you that in my area; I will probably be able to turn some heads when I show this phone to people in public. It sounds funny; but it's true.
One question I do have is about pre orders? Since this phone is going to be released on T-Mobile; will their stores allow customers to put down pre-orders?
Saw this T-Mobile version info in Android Authority a while ago...
"According to the CNET article, OnePlus isn’t just going to sell the global variant of the OnePlus 6T in T-Mobile stores. Instead, there will be another T-Mobile-specific model that will be optimized for the carrier’s network.
And yes, that will include support for 600mHz bands, otherwise known as band 71."
Tmo was never going to sell an international oneplus in their stores. The questions are how much if any branding will it have, which Tmo apps come pre-installed, is the bootloader unlocked, which LTE freqs did we lose to get the 600 mhz goods. For most people the last question isn't all that important but I travel a great deal and it's a big one for me.