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If any of you here are following the obnoxious quest for the US to receive the Dell Streak, you would know about the Texas Beta Streak.
I am considering purchasing one on eBay and my questions to fellow XDA-Members are:
- What do you think it is worth price wise currently?
- Do you think the American model will be different?
I do not believe the American model will be different in any way; hardware, software, nothing. Also on top of that, I am afraid the launch will consist of getting the Streak for free with a 2-year contract (I just want an unlocked one!). It will either be a disappoint or a celebration.
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I've been considering much the same as you, even more so because I am in Canada and how I am going to go about getting even when launched might be a challenge. Of the ones I have watched go on ebay I'm pretty sure they been going 600+. Maybe even more on the ones not doing bidding but the offer option. I'd expect the hardware/software is going to be the exact same, if they software is different you'll be able to get the update, so I wouldn't be concerned about that.
The other thing that I've thought of holding me back is that the registration of the device might not be in my name and what issues might that cause for any warranty replacements.
The rumored launch is next week 14/15th, its already the weekend so nothing is shipping till at earliest the 12th, wait it out till then is what I am doing. If the Canada thing is an issue even after launch for myself then if anything ebay availability should be going up and price down so I'm holding out.
Got one...works great on TMO..having a blast with it!
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This is a Beta Device,I think is not a Good Idea buy one of this devices special with the high price they list there.
wonsanim said:
This is a Beta Device,I think is not a Good Idea buy one of this devices special with the high price they list there.
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Say what you want. I paid about $100 more than the supposed list. Beta or not....I have one now and am really liking it. Had it for about 2 weeks now. As far as Beta, this is only a beta for the US. This was released the same time the Final EU ones for O2 were released. With that said other than being on the US network, if these have bugs it is the same bugs the EU ones have.
Marty
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I paid about $100 more than the supposed list. Beta or not....I have one now and am really liking it.
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I will be bidding on some on eBay soon!
HTC just put up the press release that they launched Desire HD and Desire Z in asia.does this means the wait is over?or WTF?
http://www.htc.com/europe/press.aspx?id=146348&lang=1033
No I think this was just the Asian version of the Europe Launch on Sept 15th. I seem to remember some techie sites saying they had invites to it which were identical to the London ones...
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No I think this was just the Asian version of the Europe Launch on Sept 15th. I seem to remember some techie sites saying they had invites to it which were identical to the London ones...
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ah...all right.my bad,then.i just saw it on twitter and thought i should share.sorry
Did you even read the whole thing?
Availability and pricing
The new HTC Desire HD and HTC Desire Z will be available through mobile operators and retailers across major Asian markets from November 2010.
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Did you even read the whole thing?
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somehow i missed that.i wouldn't post anything without reading.not in this flaming society.
i said i'm sorry.maybe i'm too exited about this phone.
Is this thread even necessary?
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Is this thread even necessary?
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Why not? After all it's about Desires in asian markets.
On another note i believe you are being a bit over ambitious about the moderating, have a bit of patience with locking topics, i guarantee you you will have more than enough of that once the phones are finally out...
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Why not? After all it's about Desires in asian markets.
On another note i believe you are being a bit over ambitious about the moderating, have a bit of patience with locking topics, i guarantee you you will have more than enough of that once the phones are finally out...
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No he is not ...
...because once the flood gates are open, it will become a nightmare of threads...I have seen it in HD2 forums
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No he is not ...
...because once the flood gates are open, it will become a nightmare of threads...I have seen it in HD2 forums
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so have i.i coocked ROMs for HD2.this is last time i'am saying i'm sorry for this thread.i was too impulsive.i am off this forum until DHD is released.
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so have i.i coocked ROMs for HD2.this is last time i'am saying i'm sorry for this thread.i was too impulsive.i am off this forum until DHD is released.
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DUDE... don't be sorry... when i read the tittle of this thread, i was exited!!!
Couple of days ago talked to my local supplier in Beijing about when can get Desire HD or Desire Z from them. Was told after mid Oct they can get for me the phones, but for +30 to 40% the price in Europe, in mid Nov they can offer the phones "normally priced" (whatever this means)
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Couple of days ago talked to my local supplier in Beijing about when can get Desire HD or Desire Z from them. Was told after mid Oct they can get for me the phones, but for +30 to 40% the price in Europe, in mid Nov they can offer the phones "normally priced" (whatever this means)
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Meaning, most probably the phones will be launched in Europe first, and they'll be grey imported into Beijing for a hefty price (since there is no way you can get them besides through grey import).
Once the phone is finally launched officially in Bejing, they'll be able to obtain the phone from an authorized distributor locally, and the price will be the RRP (recommended retail price) set by the distributor.
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Meaning, most probably the phones will be launched in Europe first, and they'll be grey imported into Beijing for a hefty price (since there is no way you can get them besides through grey import).
Once the phone is finally launched officially in Bejing, they'll be able to obtain the phone from an authorized distributor locally, and the price will be the RRP (recommended retail price) set by the distributor.
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As I know these phones are not getting officially into China - all will be grey import. I dont believe this import will come from Europe but from other Asian locations - Taiwan, HK, Singapore, Malaysia etc. Mass supply (grey import) starts after local techie community is ready with Chinese ROM. The distributors are re-flashing the sets and then putting them on the market.
Before Chinese ROM available there will be imported only very limited number of sets - the reason for the "hefty price" in the beginning. No RRP as no official channels, but in general expect the "normally priced" phones to be cheaper than in Europe.
The funny is to get a phone with stock ROM I made a "special request order" with the supplier
I too appreciate the posting. Any news about the DHD is considered relevant info. Sure, some stuff will be more relevant than other, and sometimes news will be repeated, but come on... let us all play nice, and appreciate that our friends share all the cool stuff they find about the DHD. Personally, I appreciate this thread.
For those who read chinese. This site captured quite a fair bit of the "Launch Party" in Taiwan.
http://www.eprice.com.hk/mobile/talk/?prod_id=4018&tid=37208
It seems like there are threads on release dates for many countries except the U.S! So this thread is for people with any information on the release date in the states. =)
I hear ya, I'm am so ready to buy this phone... now if t-mobile usa would speed up the process a bit I could quit driving my wife crazy surfing for anything related to the GS2
What we need to do is to create an online group for wives of phone addict xda members who can't stop researching new devices and roms. Then, they'll spend all day on that forum and won't notice we're ignoring them. My wife just doesn't understand that I NEED this phone on T-Mobile.
I hope you guys get it soon... just like us up north here in canada... but as for tmob getting it... the current international version doesn't have AWS support so that may hold it up a tad for them... just like WIND here... hope that doesn't burst a bubble... and if you already knew that... sorry!
This guy will do T-Mobile 3G, cough cough, 4G? It's a plus device?
It's looking likely that T Mobile USA won't release the SGS2 until sometime in July. With the Sensation release looking likely for June 8th, they need time to maximize its sales before releasing another high end phone. I just don't know if I can wait. I might jump on the G2x or the Sensation.
I may have missed it, but is AT&T going to be getting this phone?
I keep hearing about tmobile but no AT&T talk. If not then i am going to be very very sad.
to my knowledge AT&T's bands are supported on the international version and as a result if carriers are smart and release the actual model and don't demand variants then you should be in the clear
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It's looking likely that T Mobile USA won't release the SGS2 until sometime in July. With the Sensation release looking likely for June 8th, they need time to maximize its sales before releasing another high end phone. I just don't know if I can wait. I might jump on the G2x or the Sensation.
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That's really ****ty if they hold it off till July considering the rest of the world get's it in about a week or two.
I'm really hoping that information about its release date will come soon. If US carriers don't get it soon, I'm going to have to buy the international version.
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I'm really hoping that information about its release date will come soon. If US carriers don't get it soon, I'm going to have to buy the international version.
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Indeed. I'm ready for one, NOW, to use with T-Mobile. Group buy, perhaps?
It's not unlikely that all major US carriers (and some minor ones) will get variants of the SGS2, though the timing is very uncertain (there have been NO credible stories about precise targets, with the only semi-official statement indicating that Fall is most likely for its first appearance).
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It's not unlikely that all major US carriers (and some minor ones) will get variants of the SGS2, though the timing is very uncertain (there have been NO credible stories about precise targets, with the only semi-official statement indicating that Fall is most likely for its first appearance).
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I'm almost positive the SGSII will be available on all carriers it's just a matter of timing on the release just like it's predecessor =).
Well, a while ago from that leaked verizon "phone schedule" the SG SII was slated for sometimes in May. Now how long into may or if it gets released is the question. Right now I'm looking to upgrade to a smartphone and grandfather in.
So far Galaxy S 2 is looking pretty sweet and I want it
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Well, a while ago from that leaked verizon "phone schedule" the SG SII was slated for sometimes in May....
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wasn't that a 1st of April joke/hoax?
AT&T Infuse announced in Jan 2011 is about to be released sometime in MAY, and it is an AT&T exclusive (does not need to stand out by definition).
With the SGS2, the 4 majors would want to customize the phone to stand out from the others, so I would expect even longer delay between the announcement (March) and release.
And now we hear Sammy has SGS3 for the Fall.
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wasn't that a 1st of April joke/hoax?
AT&T Infuse announced in Jan 2011 is about to be released sometime in MAY, and it is an AT&T exclusive (does not need to stand out by definition).
With the SGS2, the 4 majors would want to customize the phone to stand out from the others, so I would expect even longer delay between the announcement (March) and release.
And now we hear Sammy has SGS3 for the Fall.
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Well so far, all the phones on that list have been released at about the right time :O, so not really sure if it's april fools joke. The list had specific dates for all the other phones except for instance bionic/galaxy s 2, where it said "May" for their releases.
I'm hoping for the may release so I can get grandfathered in with the Galaxy s 2 !!!!!! *crosses fingers**
I am starting to feel like the UK will have the SGS3 before the SGS2 will even be available in the US lol
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I am starting to feel like the UK will have the SGS3 before the SGS2 will even be available in the US lol
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and that is exactly why I created that thread about SGS3, but people are just laughing there
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1049529
Since SGS2 may not even penetrate the market by the Fall of 2011, it is possible the US carriers will just skip SGS2 and go straight for SGS3.
I hope not because then we won't get the SGS2 this fall and will have to wait until February 2012 before the US carriers get around to destroying the device with useless and unwanted carrier changes and blotware and finally release the GS3 to NA that came out in the UK in September lol
I wish Samsung, HTC, Motorola and the other major players would just stand up to the US carriers and say "This device hits the market internationally in May you have until then to do what ever modifications you feel necessary and send the device to us to verify it meets our QA to ensure they don't cut corners to meet the deadline. If you don't have your modifications done by that time you have to release the device the way it was intended free of carrier modifications. If you don't comply with this then you won't get a flagship device that is required to meet your sales goal for the quarter and compete with other carriers that meet these requirements and have our flagship devices available"
How hard would that be, the carriers HAVE to have the newest flagship devices to complete in the high end market if the device manufactures would start throwing their weight around and refuse to release devices to the US market the carriers would have no choice but to back down. Sure that would mean an initial delay in the US for some devices while the carriers cry about not getting their way but eventually they would have no choice but to give in and then then the NA market not only gets all of our future devices in a reasonable time frame they aren't all ruined by the carriers petty attempt to stand out from each other. I don't know about anyone else but personally I would be willing to not have the SGS2 available if it meant I got the SGS3 when it was released in the UK free of carrier modifications and bloatware and that is ultimatly what this would come down to. The NA market misses a generation of top end devices but in return starting with the generation after that we don't have any more of this BS. I can suffer a little in the short term for a worth while long term reward. Plus I would bet money the smaller carriers who are trying to take a chunk out of the big guys market would love the chance to pick up flagship devices that the 3 major carriers missed out on because they wouldn't leave the device alone and just release it so it isn't like the devices would be totally unavailable you could still always get it from say Boost or T-Mobile who are more worried about customer satisfaction than adding bloatware and acting like a petty child who has to try and make his new toy "better" than the other kids or buy the international version and add it to a supported US network like many are doing with the SGS2
I'm currently working in Shanghai, and I've only been here a couple of months. I'm a devoted Nexus user, and I would really like to upgrade from my GNex to the N4 as soon as possible.
The majority of my friends and family still live in the States, so I was thinking of ordering one to one of their houses and having them ship it to me. Will I run into any issues shipping a new electronic device from the States to China? I haven't tried this yet, and, when I try to find the answer, Google wants to correct my question, telling me I must mean shipping from China to the States. Anyone have any experience with this?
The other options seem to be:
1. To wait for someone to bring it to me. I've got a handful of people coming to visit in early '13, and that seems really far away. Or
2. To wait for it to be available here in China. Anyone know what to expect for time and price if I wait?
Are there other options I'm missing? Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.
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Two or three years ago they started to check if one's smuggling electronics into China. I don't know if they have gone easy on that. The safest bet is to have someone buy one from US and then bring it back to you.
The other choice is to buy one on Taobao. Once it starts to sell in Hong Kong there will be a million of them either on Taobao or local smartphone market. You just need to be able to tell the genuine ones from the fake ones. Most Chinese get their phones this way. If you have any Chinese friends (male), ask them about it.
Don't count it to be available in China. Google is basically at war with the Chinese government over the hacking thing.
I'm going back to China early December. Its a shame I'm not going by Shanghai though.
This is good advice. Thanks. I'll definitely check with my colleagues to see who will be traveling to the States in the next couple of weeks. I'm not feeling especially patient about this upgrade.
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. i was at ces yeterday at the samsung booth. there was a guy givig the samsung rep a lot of grief for the shoddy updaate rolllout for the us, the samsung rep said we'd have the update "very soon". since it was running on the note 10.1 with lte for verizon one would hope so. it really seems like they delayed the us upate so verizon could have something unique. the guy also asked about the keyboard dock andt he samsung rep said he didn't know but suspected now that verizon was gettting the lte unit samsug would bring the dock to the us. apparenly a marketing decision
as for jellybean on the note it looked great.it is really multi-windows and not split screen. windows are resizeable. switcching lag is gone,
Let's hope it's by months end.
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The US is not the only country with no update.. The majority of Europe does not either.. Some of us didn't even get the minor update that fixes the stupid Exfat issue..
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Smokie Smokerson said:
The US is not the only country with no update.. The majority of Europe does not either.. Some of us didn't even get the minor update that fixes the stupid Exfat issue..
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Here's a link to Engadget's Myriam Joire's interview on stage of Samsung's Ryan Bidan yesterday. Joire owns a WIFi Note 10.1 and asked when those of us in North America will get the JB update. Bidan said soon, too. He also said the Verizon LTE tablet will ship with JB 4.2.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/08/samsung-interview/
I've said since the beginning when these topics started coming out that it was because Samsung had a "newer" version coming out, possibly at CES, that would come with JB preinstalled and it would use that to it's advantage. Look what happened. I guarantee Verizon paid quite a bit to make sure that update would not come out for existing tablets for quite a while after their version was out. No one seems to understand that all these companies care about is making the most possible money in the shortest amount of time. A lot of people have the illusion that they care about consumer interests and wanna put the best possible product in their hands. These are corporations. They wanna put the most "money making" product in consumers hands and that's something they can mass produce quickly, sell quickly, and make quick money on it.
Apple has been using something like this to their advantage for years. They release an iPhone or iPad and deliberately leave out "key" features to be added to future devices. If they didn't, they wouldn't make as much money.
Bottom line is, it's a shame that people think corporations have the consumers best interests in mind..
I have to agree with you, transcode of the biggest reasons why I'm not happy with these delays..
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That's all well & good but Verizon has NOTHING to do with Australia. Their network has different frequencies and to be honest, I only know the name because of this forum...
Why should some idiot company that has nothing to do with the rest of the world be able to dictate when an update is released to the rest of the planet?
In Oz I'm still waiting for the exFAT fix... Got impatient and am running German 4.1.2. Still, why should I potentially loose my warranty on something that really bears no relation to the rest of the world bar America and possibly Canada?
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That's all well & good but Verizon has NOTHING to do with Australia. Their network has different frequencies and to be honest, I only know the name because of this forum...
Why should some idiot company that has nothing to do with the rest of the world be able to dictate when an update is released to the rest of the planet?
In Oz I'm still waiting for the exFAT fix... Got impatient and am running German 4.1.2. Still, why should I potentially loose my warranty on something that really bears no relation to the rest of the world bar America and possibly Canada?
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Dude, im in EU and exactly in the same boat as you are.. Didnt even get the Exfat fix update.. Only thing is I'm still on the stock 4.0.4 so Meh :banghead:
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Uk & Germany got it because were special
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That's all well & good but Verizon has NOTHING to do with Australia. Their network has different frequencies and to be honest, I only know the name because of this forum...
Why should some idiot company that has nothing to do with the rest of the world be able to dictate when an update is released to the rest of the planet?
In Oz I'm still waiting for the exFAT fix... Got impatient and am running German 4.1.2. Still, why should I potentially loose my warranty on something that really bears no relation to the rest of the world bar America and possibly Canada?
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The business practice Is worldwide . Although the prevalence of LTE varies by market, if one of your country's carriers is deploying LTE and wants marketing advantages by lining up exclusive deals on LTE devices, don't be surprised to see update delays. Start checking tech and cellular tech publications in your respective countries to see if there are rumors of pending releases of carrier branded LTE GN 10.1 devices. If there are, you may see updates for your WIFI devices delayed.
Haha I see some tin foil hats going around. If it was just samsung be one thing but way to many other tablets out there dont have updates to 4.1. But hey what they want to do is up to them. But think .. putting 4.2 ..thats it? That and Verizon name on the back is the best they could come up with? Anyone with a TAB has phone.. anyway.. keep your hat on and who knows..
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Haha I see some tin foil hats going around. If it was just samsung be one thing but way to many other tablets out there dont have updates to 4.1. But hey what they want to do is up to them. But think .. putting 4.2 ..thats it? That and Verizon name on the back is the best they could come up with? Anyone with a TAB has phone.. anyway.. keep your hat on and who knows..
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LOL, I don't think the corporate types like the look of foil with their expensive suits. This is about the reality of corporate relationships and marketing. LTE may be more widely deployed in North America right now but it will be rolled out elsewhere. As it reaches 3G markets, users will find LTE services and devices categorized and priced as premium, top-of-the line . Like it or not, Samsung will repeat the roll out of the LTE GN 10.1 for Verizon with other carriers around the world as those carriers deploy their LTE networks to try to keep up with the 24/7 demand for fast and voluminous amounts of data and entertainment services like streaming. Carriers pay for tweaking and branding and Samsung and all other companies will happily reserve updates and features for a carrier launch even if it makes individual consumers unhappy.
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The business practice Is worldwide . Although the prevalence of LTE varies by market, if one of your country's carriers is deploying LTE and wants marketing advantages by lining up exclusive deals on LTE devices, don't be surprised to see update delays. Start checking tech and cellular tech publications in your respective countries to see if there are rumors of pending releases of carrier branded LTE GN 10.1 devices. If there are, you may see updates for your WIFI devices delayed.
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Yes and no. Granted, Verizon is a larger customer than we are as individual consumers. However, I do not want a Note with telephony. I have a phone. And if the poll here is to be believed wi-fi only constitutes the majority of Note buyers. Thus, Samsung ignores us at their peril, and by us I mean we individual users with wi-fi only and the retailers selling us these units.
Hey guys i bought one for my wife cause she has always wanted one, but how do i know if i supports lte. I bought it in december 2012
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Hey guys i bought one for my wife cause she has always wanted one, but how do i know if i supports lte. I bought it in december 2012
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If u bought it in december, it is the wifi only model....the lte model comes out sometime this month only on verizon.
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I've said since the beginning when these topics started coming out that it was because Samsung had a "newer" version coming out, possibly at CES, that would come with JB preinstalled and it would use that to it's advantage. Look what happened. I guarantee Verizon paid quite a bit to make sure that update would not come out for existing tablets for quite a while after their version was out. No one seems to understand that all these companies care about is making the most possible money in the shortest amount of time. A lot of people have the illusion that they care about consumer interests and wanna put the best possible product in their hands. These are corporations. They wanna put the most "money making" product in consumers hands and that's something they can mass produce quickly, sell quickly, and make quick money on it.
Apple has been using something like this to their advantage for years. They release an iPhone or iPad and deliberately leave out "key" features to be added to future devices. If they didn't, they wouldn't make as much money.
Bottom line is, it's a shame that people think corporations have the consumers best interests in mind..
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Yeah but at least apple launches the same update to every device to every country on the same day. Instead of taking some darts and randomly throwing it at a world map which is what it looks like they are doing.
Soju+koreans+darts = irregular JB update schedule.