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Can't help but feel as if the samsung fascinate dev scene is dead until the release of froyo. Especially since all the core work is already completed with compiled kernels, recovery, base roms and voodoo. The only thing worth changing anymore are themes and I haven't even been doing that. Correct me if im wrong but I came from a droid 1 and even at 2.1 the dev scene was way bigger.
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What exactly are you looking for? You can rearrange roms only so many times... I switched roms (d1) quite a fews times and realized there were never any significant improvements...
What this dev community has given us is decent (well maybe some more themes lol) until froyo comes about..
It would be nice to have more roms and such but you get what you get.
I noticed that too. When I had my D1, there were ROMS out the ass! Then I switched to this and have been very let down. If you want a boring theme, you're in luck! Otherwise, not so much.
I think part of the reason more people didn't jump on roms was because Samsung announced it would deliver FroYo within a month after release so creating huge numbers of 2.1 roms wasn't worthwhile at the time.
It's more or less a waiting game for 2.2 now. I think the devs are just waiting for it to drop before doing more serious work on the roms (at least a couple of people I know are).
I imagine it won't be too much farther out, within a month or so...
We saw the international version get froyo, and the Epic got theirs over the weekend, Vibrant was expected on Dec 1 but due to some circumstances it got pushed back a week or so by T-Mobile.
Stop complaining, devs are always busy and frankly do everything for us for free, these things take alot of time and effort. Frankly I'm amazed we have so much, the fascinate isn't the flagship that the D1 was for verizon despite how sexy its hardware is. And to be honest its hard, to imagine my phone getting much better than it is now with dj05 the latest voodoo 5 build and some awesome themer goodness.
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I think part of the reason more people didn't jump on roms was because Samsung announced it would deliver FroYo within a month after release so creating huge numbers of 2.1 roms wasn't worthwhile at the time.
It's more or less a waiting game for 2.2 now. I think the devs are just waiting for it to drop before doing more serious work on the roms (at least a couple of people I know are).
I imagine it won't be too much farther out, within a month or so...
We saw the international version get froyo, and the Epic got theirs over the weekend, Vibrant was expected on Dec 1 but due to some circumstances it got pushed back a week or so by T-Mobile.
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Sounds about right our device came out last to, I'm going samsung gives us an early christmas present, come here car dock audio out =D
what exactly is it you guys are looking for?
there are new kernels every day and the roms that are out are fine...theres really only so many ways you can reconfigure a touchwiz based rom anyway until there is an aosp breakthrough
I'm just happy to have what we currently have now.
Rockin' DJ05, Minimal Icognito, with Voodoo5
If Samsung released decent source code, there may be more ROMs than what is available now, but they didn't so everything had to be just stripped down versions of what shipped with the phone. The devs have been trying to get an AOSP rom going, but I don't know the status of that.
I think there would be some AOSP roms out there. Feels like all the roms out there are based of JTs and the others are just themed. Love the kernal development from everyone. I'm actually rocking a stock rom with StupidFast because I prefer the stock feel. I wouldn't mind a nice stock rom with the some memory management improvements, removed bloat and bing removed.
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what exactly is it you guys are looking for?
there are new kernels every day and the roms that are out are fine...theres really only so many ways you can reconfigure a touchwiz based rom anyway until there is an aosp breakthrough
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I've been wondering for a while, what would it mean to have an aosp breakthrough? That is, what is holding things up, and once this is resolved will future versions of aosp be easier to build? Feel free to be very technical and precise if that's what it takes to explain, and thanks! I love your theme.
I'm patiently waiting for my 8.0 to arrive. While doing this I've skimmed through the forums and such gleeming information. The 8.0 has been out since April / May and it seems compared to the other Note products that I've owned (all three of them) the ROM development and general traffic seems to be on the light side.
Not criticizing.
Is this because the devs are waiting for a source to drop? Is this because the majority feel that Samsung has made a solid product (hardware and software) that there is little to adjust or complain about the product (which is a good thing) Or the last not so good scenario that thus is not a very popular device because of odd size, design, price point, economy, cheaper alternatives, waiting for something better?
I don't want to do the usual "Dude, thus place is Dead! Why?" Lol.
I'm interested in what others who have been here longer feel about this.
Thanks.
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I just got my note 8.0 (international version n5100) few days ago. Although you are right there isn't much development going on. The problem is that most of the developers are in USA. The US version of the Note 8.0 (at&t) and the Canadian version have yet to have root. So that is why you don't see much activity around here. Once the At&t version can be modified. I would expect more developers to show up.
Best buy and such is just selling the WiFi version anyways sent they?
I guess that brings me to another question from what I've noticed: are people buying this mainly as a 3g device to use as a phablet? AFAIK mine will just be a WiFi only.
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Yes Best Buy is most likely selling the wifi version unless they made you sign a contract that is a safe bet.
There are a bunch of Note 8.0 which makes me believe we will most likely need another sub forum once the North American Note 8.0 have a development scene. Since they have slightly different hardware. earpiece removed etc.
Since the At&t model only have data no phone or SMS. Most people have either the LTE model or the wifi model. Only the wifi model has a development scene.
Custom roms would be nice for some fun but I'm very happy with stock rooted. It's a solid device.
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I'm all for custom roms....But, I like the stock rom very much. I chose the 5100 because it offers everything in one package. If I need to make a phone call, no problem. Send a text, I'm covered, plus wifi. Would loved to have had LTE but with T-Mobile 3G+ I don't feel rained on!! And yes I live in a refarmed area. For me, living in the U.S., the 5100 3G is the best option. In other countries that were offered LTE (voice+data) that would be the way to go.
The reason I go with Samsung in general is because I don't want to have to flash anything custom. Over the 5 years or so of owning Android, I've been through a lot of devices, and I can't begin to imagine how much time I've wasted flashing, restoring, backing up, etc, etc. There are more important things to life than customizing your gadgets. In short, I don't care whether this place is dead, active, or whether there is a single custom ROM or kernel out there for this device. Samsung provides a solid device that performs well, and they are about as up to date with updates as can be reasonably expected. I have no complaints.
Just as an aside, I've flashed many custom ROMs and kernels to my previous Galaxy S3. All of them made my performance and battery life far worse than stock, and most of them had serious issues with their themes.
That's maybe because you made poor choices on your Rom selections. It's definitely true there are nightmare roms out there.
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That's maybe because you made poor choices on your Rom selections. It's definitely true there are nightmare roms out there.
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No way man. I've always had the same issues with custom ROMs over the years. Stock has been the best since ICS hit. Most custom ROMs except the ones that are modified stock have issues.
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No way man. I've always had the same issues with custom ROMs over the years. Stock has been the best since ICS hit. Most custom ROMs except the ones that are modified stock have issues.
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Well I agree with that. As far as Samsung goes it is true that you're better off staying on something touchwiz based. This is true. All the CM and aosp stuff is plagued with problems. You're right about that. I actually like touch wiz ROMs especially for the note 2. Looks like the same with note 8. Once you lose the spen features you kinda lose the whole point of havin a Samsung device with spen. You're right
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Personally I just care about root because it opens up a lot of useful apps. Otherwise I haven't had issues with stock ROMs.
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I wish more no pc root options were available. Tried framaroot so I could install a few apps and small mods but haven't had any luck. I think stock rooted with small mods is best for the note. I had a transformer TF300T that I highly moded to get it to run at the speeds I now have on the note 8.0.
I think over time and with 4.2.2 or 4.3 the note 8.0 should see more in the development area.
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Rooting is always the first step for me and although custom roms are a handy shortcut there are many Xposed modules to help you to customise your device yourself.
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Thanks for opening this thread! The lack of custom Roms was one of the first things I recognised after buying the Note 8. I came over from a NExus 7 (2012) and as was stated here before, modding just took a lot of time from me. First it was fun to try out CM, AOKP Paranoidandroid etc. and these guys really have some good features. But I never kept a ROM longer than a few weeks because they were all horrible slow - still better than stock though. In the end I realized that it was the device itself that kept getting slower due to hardware issues and the custom ROMs just eased the problem because of the wipe I did every time. My phone is a HTC Evo 3d that also needs a lot of attention due to (in my opinion) horrible stock ROM.
Now after reading this thread and thinking about my experiences with the Note so far I have to admit I'm pretty happy with it. I Also don't care that it is still on 4.1 because 4.2 on the Nexus was just a pain with all the bugs and extra features were rare and useless for me. with 4.3 it seems to be the exact same story. So for now it's okay. Especially since I installed my favorite launcher after trying out TouchWIz
I just hope to see a good Android 5 ROM someday with S-Pen functions and so on, but that story isn't written yet
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There are a bunch of Note 8.0 which makes me believe we will most likely need another sub forum once the North American Note 8.0 have a development scene. Since they have slightly different hardware. earpiece removed etc.
Since the At&t model only have data no phone or SMS. Most people have either the LTE model or the wifi model. Only the wifi model has a development scene.
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So what are the differences between the n5100 and the i467?
telephony capability
LTE radio
ear speaker
ability to act as wifi hotspot
Anything other differences?
I like touchwiz. But I want cyanogenmod. I used cm on my s3 for more than a year.
I hope cm will be available for n5100 soon.
How are you guys liking the 8? I have the 10.1 wifi and I'm thinking of trading it for an 8 (wifi or AT&T LTE version)
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How are you guys liking the 8? I have the 10.1 wifi and I'm thinking of trading it for an 8 (wifi or AT&T LTE version)
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Start from the beginning of this thread for your answer.
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How are you guys liking the 8? I have the 10.1 wifi and I'm thinking of trading it for an 8 (wifi or AT&T LTE version)
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its a fantastic device, man...my wife has a 10.1, and its nothing like this tablet; you can one hand this guy, much smoother, and I am running CM 10.2 on it now, and its fast and smooth...great for taking everywhere, and, its more "phone like" than any other tablet...not tons of developement, but there are a couple of nice TW roms, both 4.1.2 and 4.2, plus now with cm 10.1 and 10.2, there is something for everyone!
I have the wifi model, and its easy to set it up for VOIP and sms/mms...
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its a fantastic device, man...my wife has a 10.1, and its nothing like this tablet; you can one hand this guy, much smoother, and I am running CM 10.2 on it now, and its fast and smooth...great for taking everywhere, and, its more "phone like" than any other tablet...not tons of developement, but there are a couple of nice TW roms, both 4.1.2 and 4.2, plus now with cm 10.1 and 10.2, there is something for everyone!
I have the wifi model, and its easy to set it up for VOIP and sms/mms...
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Does the Spen work with the CM roms?
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im still using the s2 ive been due an upgrade for about 3 months now but cant decide to go for the s4 or wait for the s5,
do you think its worth waiting for the s5
thanks
grakon said:
im still using the s2 ive been due an upgrade for about 3 months now but cant decide to go for the s4 or wait for the s5,
do you think its worth waiting for the s5
thanks
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Only you can decide that. Look up the proposed features of the S5 and then see what the S4 offers and make a decision. I would wait until it is definitely known what the specs and features of the S5 will be because it's just speculation now. Also, do as much reading as possible. Just about any possible question about the S4 has been asked and answered, just use the search function to find those answers.
One more thing. If you wait for the S5, wait until the developers edition or GE edition is released. Maybe even get the International S5 version if it is proven to work with AT&T LTE (which it should). DO not get the carrier branded version unless locked bootloaders and bloat is what you are looking for. Also, look into the KNOX issues to see if it further cripples the phones ability to be customized. If it does, you will probably be better going with another brand. But, like I said, you need to read and decide for yourself. Good luck.
Personally I don't think it's worth the wait. As for the s4 it's a good phone but there are other great phones out at the moment. If I was in your shoes I would consider the nexus 5 HTC one and LG g2 as alternative options. There is the note 3 but that depends on if your willing to carry a 5.7 inch screen with you.
Also now that I've had the s4 for a while I honestly got bored with it. I was hoping 4.3 would breath life back into it but it's just about the same. As for safestrap it helped but shortly got bored with ROMs and went back to stock. For my next upgrade I'll try another brand.
interesting replys thanks for that seems like i got a bit of reading to
i was thinking of going for the s5 cause ive been more than happy with the s2 for the last 2 years and i would imagine the s5 when its released will be a full spec phone
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interesting replys thanks for that seems like i got a bit of reading to
i was thinking of going for the s5 cause ive been more than happy with the s2 for the last 2 years and i would imagine the s5 when its released will be a full spec phone
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The future of flashing custom Roms is getting harder with new phones coming out so keep that in mind, if you don't mind not flashing custom Roms than the s5 would be a great phone.
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Stay far away from the official ATT S4, they locked this phone down so tight, no custom Recovery, no flashing fresh new ROM's. It totally sucks, and is a very disturbing trend from ATT. Even the new Note 3 got the shaft Development on the ATT Note 3 is NONEXISTENT.
Even though I do love my S4, great smartphone, but if you get an MF3, or MJ9 version, your screwed.
If you got the cash, and want an S4, get the Google Play Edition, or find an International S4 on eBay.
I sure hope ATT isn't going to continue this in the future, locking down all new phones, and killing development ?
At least the ATT HTC One is totally developer friendly, it can be rooted, recovery, and S-Off no problem.
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I cannot wait! Currently using an up-to-date OTA S4 on Verizon, meaning I am stuck with bloated touchwiz . Can't wait to switch over to the Dev Edition Moto X. Once the new Eclipse update is released I shall start "ROM"ing.
StiM_AddiCt said:
I cannot wait! Currently using an up-to-date OTA S4 on Verizon, meaning I am stuck with bloated touchwiz . Can't wait to switch over to the Dev Edition Moto X. Once the new Eclipse update is released I shall start "ROM"ing.
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I made the switch from an at&t gs4 on mk2 using safestrap to flash Roms. Got tired of always flashing and setting up. Got this and got it rooted with gravity box, greenify. Don't really need the ROM ing on this phone. But I got a regular att not the DE
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StiM_AddiCt said:
I cannot wait! Currently using an up-to-date OTA S4 on Verizon, meaning I am stuck with bloated touchwiz . Can't wait to switch over to the Dev Edition Moto X. Once the new Eclipse update is released I shall start "ROM"ing.
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Just moved to a moto x DE from a verizon droid maxx that was stuck on 4.4 unrooted. Honestly, i wanted the droid maxx DE, but it was out of stock and i had the money now.
Only have had it for a couple days, but im really liking the size of the device. was kinda hesitant coming from the maxx, but it feels so good im my hands. I find that im not streching to reach the notification shade, and that the phone isnt sticking out the top of my shirt pocket when im working.
Another vote for Stock + xposed = no need to ROM. Wanted the dev edition so that i can always root no matter what update they throw at us.
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Just moved to a moto x DE from a verizon droid maxx that was stuck on 4.4 unrooted. Honestly, i wanted the droid maxx DE, but it was out of stock and i had the money now.
Only have had it for a couple days, but im really liking the size of the device. was kinda hesitant coming from the maxx, but it feels so good im my hands. I find that im not streching to reach the notification shade, and that the phone isnt sticking out the top of my shirt pocket when im working.
Another vote for Stock + xposed = no need to ROM. Wanted the dev edition so that i can always root no matter what update they throw at us.
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Awesome. Glad to hear the stock ROM is that good. Touchwiz left me with a bad taste in my mouth. What are the recommend "must haves" once I am rooted?
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Awesome. Glad to hear the stock ROM is that good. Touchwiz left me with a bad taste in my mouth. What are the recommend "must haves" once I am rooted?
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Xposed with the Gravity Box module at a minimum. The rest depends on your needs. I also have the Moto Tether module.
Another benefit of the Dev Edition is to more easily flash ROMs down the road, when Moto/Lenovo stops supporting the device and releasing updates. Right now I have no interest in going off stock, but 2 years from now, that may change if I am stuck on Android 4.5 or whatever and 5.x has been out for a year.
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Awesome. Glad to hear the stock ROM is that good. Touchwiz left me with a bad taste in my mouth. What are the recommend "must haves" once I am rooted?
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i ran a s3 for a year before switching over and i can agree i froze TW from the start and installed a diffrent launcher. but i am happy to say even the stock launcher on this phone is great.
here is some of the stuff i have done
root
xposed
titanium backup
freeze all apps i dont use
greenify
new launcher
battery state read just incase something is draining the battery
i get about 1day 4hr on a full charge.
Root
Xposed; Modules: Gravity Box, Youtube ad-away, moto tether, root cloak, preference injector
Root enabled file explorer, I use Solid Explorer
Thats what im using so far, just got my DE 2 days ago, so im still getting settled in.
I also plan on flashing the image to get rid of the unlocked bootloader warning message that shows prior to the boot animation, but thats not really a big deal to me
I had a Verizon S4 on MK2. I will never buy another samsung phone in my lifetime, unless they decide to get rid of touchwiz... HA, right. Right now, I currently have a VZW DE Moto X I picked up on Swappa for about 390. It took 2 days to get here, and it is great. I do not miss my S4 one little bit. I even have it up for sale on Swappa but I'm not trying to advertise so I won't go into further detail on that. I love the Moto X, but I'm worried to take it out of the house xD.
Another former touchwiz convert here ... Came from Verizon Note 3 (had Note 2 prior to it) and while I wasn't overly thrilled about TW, I didn't mind it on the Note series (my first devices with TW).
Loved my N2 in every way, but the N3 (for me) sucked as a phone - bad quality, dropped calls and constant data drops/in and out of 4G etc
Decided to take advantage of the Moto sales and grabbed a DE X ... Of course I was concerned about the significant size difference, but after a week or so with the x I was hooked! Sold N3 and haven't regretted it at all.
Also agree with others as far as ROM's go .. No need IMO. Get Xposed and Gravity Box and you're golden!
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Well both my DE and Black/White Bumper have shipped. Inter-webs say they will be here Tuesday. I shall turn on the Moto X and see if it needs to update to 4.4 and then check it out to ensure I am safe to port my number over. My phone is through a corporate account and is a pain in the ass to switch lol.
I've had the captivate, S2, S3, and Note 3. I always flashed custom ROMs because I hated TW so much. I bought the GSM DE, and feel no need to flash any custom ROM. For the first time, I'm completely happy with stock. Now, a custom kernel is another thing all together. Lol
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Another Verizon Samsung gs4 convert. I came from Sprint before complaining about the previous few generations of HTC evo phones and I had no idea how much worse Samsung had messed up the android experience (especially with the way Verizon locks down the phone). Whomever is responsible for the abomination that is touchwiz should be flogged.
I've got the vzw de x and so far haven't seen a reason to ROM it.
Has anyone considered moving from the Note 3 to the Nexus 5 for the whole purpose of having access to their phone via root and unlocked bootloader?
I have been considering it for the past couple days. I love the size of the Note 3 but I did not take the KK update nor Odin the KK leaked and I want to be able to put any ROM on my phone.
Flash dynamic kat! Note 3 nexus 5 mix!
Edit; didn't read that part where you want to put any rom on your phone, yeah if you want unlocked bootloader nexus 5 is the way to go.
I wouldn't mind doing one of the KK rom's. Either I am blind or just stupid, but I cannot find the instructions on how to get everything flashed with Odin to KK so that I can flash.
I want full control but I am also wondering what other people have done. I love Samsung phones as I have been happy with the build quality. I even had a Galaxy Nexus on VZW and I loved it.
I haven't done it but I've been thinking about it.
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I wouldn't mind doing one of the KK rom's. Either I am blind or just stupid, but I cannot find the instructions on how to get everything flashed with Odin to KK so that I can flash.
I want full control but I am also wondering what other people have done. I love Samsung phones as I have been happy with the build quality. I even had a Galaxy Nexus on VZW and I loved it.
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sticky at the top of this section http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2712039
Funny, I just sold my Nexus 5 to get a Note 3. Got my note 3 from ATT for $249 outright with no contract. Couldn't pass up such a good deal. Sold my Nexus to my co-worker for $300. I am loving the Note.
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