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[Q] upgrade to 4??

im still using the s2 ive been due an upgrade for about 3 months now but cant decide to go for the s4 or wait for the s5,
do you think its worth waiting for the s5
thanks

grakon said:
im still using the s2 ive been due an upgrade for about 3 months now but cant decide to go for the s4 or wait for the s5,
do you think its worth waiting for the s5
thanks
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Only you can decide that. Look up the proposed features of the S5 and then see what the S4 offers and make a decision. I would wait until it is definitely known what the specs and features of the S5 will be because it's just speculation now. Also, do as much reading as possible. Just about any possible question about the S4 has been asked and answered, just use the search function to find those answers.
One more thing. If you wait for the S5, wait until the developers edition or GE edition is released. Maybe even get the International S5 version if it is proven to work with AT&T LTE (which it should). DO not get the carrier branded version unless locked bootloaders and bloat is what you are looking for. Also, look into the KNOX issues to see if it further cripples the phones ability to be customized. If it does, you will probably be better going with another brand. But, like I said, you need to read and decide for yourself. Good luck.

Personally I don't think it's worth the wait. As for the s4 it's a good phone but there are other great phones out at the moment. If I was in your shoes I would consider the nexus 5 HTC one and LG g2 as alternative options. There is the note 3 but that depends on if your willing to carry a 5.7 inch screen with you.
Also now that I've had the s4 for a while I honestly got bored with it. I was hoping 4.3 would breath life back into it but it's just about the same. As for safestrap it helped but shortly got bored with ROMs and went back to stock. For my next upgrade I'll try another brand.

interesting replys thanks for that seems like i got a bit of reading to
i was thinking of going for the s5 cause ive been more than happy with the s2 for the last 2 years and i would imagine the s5 when its released will be a full spec phone

grakon said:
interesting replys thanks for that seems like i got a bit of reading to
i was thinking of going for the s5 cause ive been more than happy with the s2 for the last 2 years and i would imagine the s5 when its released will be a full spec phone
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The future of flashing custom Roms is getting harder with new phones coming out so keep that in mind, if you don't mind not flashing custom Roms than the s5 would be a great phone.
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Stay far away from the official ATT S4, they locked this phone down so tight, no custom Recovery, no flashing fresh new ROM's. It totally sucks, and is a very disturbing trend from ATT. Even the new Note 3 got the shaft Development on the ATT Note 3 is NONEXISTENT.
Even though I do love my S4, great smartphone, but if you get an MF3, or MJ9 version, your screwed.
If you got the cash, and want an S4, get the Google Play Edition, or find an International S4 on eBay.
I sure hope ATT isn't going to continue this in the future, locking down all new phones, and killing development ?
At least the ATT HTC One is totally developer friendly, it can be rooted, recovery, and S-Off no problem.
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Probably best served if all future discussion goes here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2433789

With the CM11 builds now appearing, will the VZW Note 3 see any progress?

I'm in the market for a new phone, but before I leave T-Mobile and my Nexus 4 to sign my soul to the devil for 2 years I'd like to see a glimmer of hope for the AOSP on the Verizon Note 3.
I've been trying to inform myself on the issue with Verizon Note 3's recently and from what I've read it's not possible to boot a custom kernel, which is necessary for CM11.
Are we going to see any AOSP developer support soon for the VZW Note 3? Or does a locked bootloader really mean no potential?

There's still the vzw dev edition Note 3.

newuser134 said:
There's still the vzw dev edition Note 3.
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I'm confined to purchasing from Best Buy unfortunately.
I guess I could wait until the Developer Edition is back in stock, buy the retail Note 3, sell, then buy the Dev Note 3.
Is the unlocked bootloader the only difference between the retail and dev edition?

MrGorillaNoodles said:
Is the unlocked bootloader the only difference between the retail and dev edition?
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Yes

I am a big fan of cm....but I have been running beans ROM, and it feels like cm, but still has some tw features if you wanted. While its not a true cm....its damn close.

The Note 3 in my opinion is the best phone that "Verizon" offers. But if the Nexus 5 was on Verizon I would not have gotten the Note 3 because it's fully unlocked, crazy rom support and is half the cost of the Note 3. Personally I would be happy with a Google play edition Note 3 with support for the S-Pen and the note app. Even with a unlocked bootloader on the Note 2 you still can't use the original note apps on CM based roms plus something always failed to work correctly. I always ended up using touchwiz based roms on my Note 2.

I also thought I was going to hate not having CM... so far I've been pleasantly surprised with Beans Rom and xposed.

There is now a thread and alpha build of CM11 for the T-Mobile Note 3. This will probably work on Developer Edition Note 3s. Anyone interested, go here and be sure to look at post #57 > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2590561

New Note 3 Owner

So I got a Note 3 on New Year's Day. After living with it for a few days, I really do love this thing. I'm not sure that is going to replace my Galaxy S4 Google Play Edition as a daily driver, but I still can't get over all the features this thing has, never mind the outstanding hardware. I also see a lot of things in Touchwiz that I'd love to see implemented in stock Android. I can't wait to see what, if any, new features Sammy will include with KitKat. Hopefully the KK update will come within the next month or two.
Sent from my Galaxy Note 3 using Tapatalk

oldblue910 said:
So I got a Note 3 on New Year's Day. After living with it for a few days, I really do love this thing. I'm not sure that is going to replace my Galaxy S4 Google Play Edition as a daily driver, but I still can't get over all the features this thing has, never mind the outstanding hardware. I also see a lot of things in Touchwiz that I'd love to see implemented in stock Android. I can't wait to see what, if any, new features Sammy will include with KitKat. Hopefully the KK update will come within the next month or two.
Sent from my Galaxy Note 3 using Tapatalk
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They may wait to release KitKat on the Note 4. The Note 3 may never see KitKat. Unless someone makes a ROM based on it and you use Safestrap.

If the GS4 is getting KitKat (which it will since the GPE variant already has it), you can bet your ass that the Note 3 will too.
Sent from my Galaxy Note 3 using Tapatalk

Solarenemy68 said:
They may wait to release KitKat on the Note 4. The Note 3 may never see KitKat. Unless someone makes a ROM based on it and you use Safestrap.
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SFR in France was claiming the S4 and Note 3 would get KK in late Jan/early Feb. Not to say that it's definite, but hopeful.
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/12/18...te-3-in-late-january-says-french-carrier-sfr/

please take this discussion here ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466099

Anyone else get ROM ENVY with Verizon Note 3?

When I first bought the note 3, I was really hoping to flash roms every week as I've done with my past HTC phones, but no luck.
I'm not complaining here, but I understand the lock-down of the bootloader, but any of you other rom flashers out there feel what I feel?
When I look at the other forum's I wish our stupid bootloader was unlocked and devs would make kernels and roms for it and I'd be flashing to my hearts desire?
Am I the only one???

I assure you that you are not alone. Lots of us used to flash lots of roms on previous devices but now that I have tried the roms for this phone I have stuck with Jasmine for a couple months now. I only get to flash when there is an update now.

Me as well. | am happy to be able to do the little I can though.
Come tax refund time though Im going Note 4 unlocked on someone other than verizon
Kicking Deuce on the Beast, Note 3

There hasn't been the plethora of roms that I had hoped for but we do have quality over quantity IMO. We are in uncharted waters as devices seem to get harder to root and flash custom roms. Especially with Hashcode retiring things are really up in the air...

I do agree that the quality is good. I've been on Jasmine 2.3 for a long time. I haven't upgraded to 2.3.4 because it's so smooth and I've had 0 problems other than the 2nd incoming call bug. I'm waiting for 2.4 so I can get a fresh update. All in all great phone and works flawlessly with my gear 2.

Traded mine for an S5. Haven't regretted it one single time! For a recent phone this place is dead!

Unrootable 4.4.4 Now what?

I just upgraded my ailing SIII to the Verizon Note 3 through Amazon. I was well aware of the unrootability of 4.4.4 on Verizon and risked it. I was hoping it would arrive and try to do an immediate update to 4.4.4. Wouldn't you know it, the damn thing came with 4.4.4 preloaded! So now I'm stuck unrooted, like many others. I've never lived unrooted before. I feel like a chain is wrapped around my phones ankle. So..... how to live unrooted? I'm curious of what apps users are using on a unrooted Note 3 to squeeze as much tweaking as possible out of their devices.

xm41907 said:
I just upgraded my ailing SIII to the Verizon Note 3 through Amazon. I was well aware of the unrootability of 4.4.4 on Verizon and risked it. I was hoping it would arrive and try to do an immediate update to 4.4.4. Wouldn't you know it, the damn thing came with 4.4.4 preloaded! So now I'm stuck unrooted, like many others. I've never lived unrooted before. I feel like a chain is wrapped around my phones ankle. So..... how to live unrooted? I'm curious of what apps users are using on a unrooted Note 3 to squeeze as much tweaking as possible out of their devices.
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I would say I feel your pain but I have never owned an android phone that I didn't root. I'm using the Note 3 due to the Note 4 root issues and who knows what the Note 5 brick wall will be like. I need unlimited data tethering which is my number 1 reason for root.
Past that I guess using custom home screens are what you will have to play with...

DaPoets said:
I would say I feel your pain but I have never owned an android phone that I didn't root. I'm using the Note 3 due to the Note 4 root issues and who knows what the Note 5 brick wall will be like. I need unlimited data tethering which is my number 1 reason for root.
Past that I guess using custom home screens are what you will have to play with...
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Other than my Amazon Fire TV Stick, this is the first phone I've not been able to root. I haven't been a huge rom switcher the last year or so, but there are just too many apps that require root I didn't think did. I'm good with NOVA as my launcher, and the rest of the interface is decent. It's the battery and speed tweaks I'm after. Oh well. Perhaps someday it will get root.

You may want to sell it and get another Note 3 that actually has root.
You could get a Note Edge Developer Edition or a Nexus 6.
Note 4 Developer Edition is out of stock, but you could keep checking to see id Samsung gets any.
Or keep following the AT&T and Verizon root threads for Note 4, it may get root.
Note 3 may not get root.

xdadevnube said:
You may want to sell it and get another Note 3 that actually has root.
You could get a Note Edge Developer Edition or a Nexus 6.
Note 4 Developer Edition is out of stock, but you could keep checking to see id Samsung gets any.
Or keep following the AT&T and Verizon root threads for Note 4, it may get root.
Note 3 may not get root.
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It's not imperative enough for me to sell it and try to get something else if i can't root it. Just an annoyance.